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COMMISSIONER. ROLL CALL.PRESENT. AND ROBIN FORSYTH IS ABSENT TONIGHT.
PLEASE SILENCE ALL PHONES AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
. EXCUSE ME. PUBLIC APPEARANCE SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND OR TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS SESSION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO ANY INQUIRY? OR IS THERE ANY CITIZENS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC APPEARANCE?
[CONSENT AGENDA]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COMMISSIONER SO REQUEST IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA.
MINUTES POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 21ST, 2022.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE P AND Z SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 21ST, 2022.
AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. CARRIES FOUR ZERO MOVE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[REGULAR AGENDA]
PUBLIC HEARING.ZA20211246. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM STARLIGHT HOMES, TEXAS LLC FOR A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR PROPERTY BEING A 61.87 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE DAVID CHERY SURVEY.
ABSTRACT NUMBER 166 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
CRAIG FISHER, PLANNING MANAGER.
THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO REZONE FROM AGRICULTURE TO PD 30 A.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS TO CREATE A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS WOULD BE A CONTINUATION OF MONTICELLO PARK.
THIS IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:03 ON THIS ITEM.
IT'S THE DEVELOPER ON THIS ONE WITH US TONIGHT.
CRAIG, DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS THE FINAL PHASE? PHASE FOUR IS THE FINAL PHASE IN ITS DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
THE PHASE FOUR IS BEING DEVELOPED TO THE NORTH.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY FUTURE PHASES FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS? IF NOBODY HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL OF ZA20211246.
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I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.COMMISSIONER BELLON? AYE. MR. COOPER? AYE. I'LL BE N.
AYE VOTE. COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? AYE.
CLOSED THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:05.
ZONING MAP AMENDMENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM RETAIL PARTNERS LLC FOR A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 7.6 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE HARD AND RIGHT SURVEY.
ABSTRACT NUMBER 957 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING HOW THIS PROPERTY MAY DEVELOP.
I'LL GET THAT ON THE SCREEN HERE.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
WHO WAS THAT? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND.
ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION? NO. YEAH.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ACTUAL RESTAURANTS.
I KNOW WE'RE JUST IN THE PLANNING PHASE OF ZONING, BUT DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE RESTAURANTS CONCEPTS MAY BE? PLEASE. AND JUST TURN THAT MICROPHONE ON.
ALL RIGHT. I HAD A QUESTION TOO.
LOT SEVEN, YOU SHOW THAT THOSE LOTS ARE RETAIL IN LOT SIX.
WHAT IS THAT REFERENCING? YOU KNOW WHAT? I DIDN'T BRING MY GLASSES UP.
WHICH ONE IS THAT CORRECT? ON LOT SIX, THE 33,000 SQUARE FOOT.
IT'S THIS. OH, THE LARGE RETAIL BUILDING.
IS THAT A RESTAURANT? IT'S A RESTAURANT.
SO THAT'S ON THE ONE THAT'S BEHIND THE THAT IS NORTH OF THE ONE THAT SAYS RESTAURANT ON LOT FOR.
IT'S THE LEAST OF THE FIRST ACTUAL LOT.
I MEAN, SECOND LOT FROM THE HIGHWAY.
JUST TO THE RIGHT OF. SO THE SECOND ONE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAT CAN YOU SEE HIS ARROW THAT'S ON THERE AT ALL.
THAT'S THE HIGHWAY? YEAH. AND THAT'S THE RESTAURANT.
THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] MIC]. PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN OR DID I OPEN THE PUBLIC? WELL, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:09.
THERE YOU GO. AND YOUR NAME? CHRISTY WALLACE.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED? GO AHEAD, OK.
HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SHOP.
RIGHT? I LIVE IN THE SECTION OF CREEK VIEW THAT BACKS RIGHT UP TO THOSE TWO NARROW, TRIANGULAR SHAPED THINGS ON THE EAST SIDE. THE ONE THAT IS SMALLER AND NARROWER COMES RIGHT DOWN THE BACK SIDE OF MY FENCE.
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RIGHT NOW, THAT IS OVERGROWN.THERE IS A HUGE MANHOLE COVER THAT HAS BEEN PUT IN THERE FOR DRAINAGE.
I CAN'T GET TO IT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE GATE OUT THERE.
AND IT HAS BEEN FOR THE 12 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE.
AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT PIECE OF LAND SPECIFICALLY AND THE ONE THAT'S NEXT TO THE SCHMIDT CHIROPRACTIC AREA, BECAUSE THOSE TWO ARE LIKE NO MAN'S LAND OUT THERE.
AND THE NUMBER I HAVE AND I CAN'T SEE THAT.
AND THERE ARE TWO HUGE STUMPS THAT ARE THERE.
AND THEN THERE'S TWO OTHER TREES, ONE OF WHICH IS A BOAT ARC THAT IS OVERLAPPING MY PROPERTY AND MR. CALDWELL'S PROPERTY.
SO I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT.
SO WHERE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ON THE EAST SIDE OF.
YES. BEAUCHAMP ON THE EAST SIDE OF BEAUCHAMP.
THIS DEVELOPMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF BEAUCHAMP.
SO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE EAST SIDE OF BEAUCHAMP CLOSER TO YOUR PROPERTY IS PROBABLY NOT RELEVANT TO THIS ITEM TONIGHT, BUT YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY TALK TO CRAIG ABOUT THAT AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
I GOT A NOTICE. THE ONLY REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE I GOT A NOTICE THAT.
AND IF THERE ARE MAINTENANCE ISSUES, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.
OKAY. SHOULD I TALK TO YOU NOW OR OR LATER? WE COULD TALK AFTER OR IF I CAN GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, I CAN REACH OUT TO YOU IN THE MORNING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE DEVELOPMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
THIS PIECE IS THIS PROPERTY THERE.
ARE YOU LOOKING AT THESE TWO? THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS A CITY ROAD IN BETWEEN.
AND THOSE ARE SEPARATE LOTS, BUT THEY'RE SHOWN ON THERE.
THEY'RE SHOWN HERE. BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE ROAD ACTUALLY CUTS THROUGH THE SAME.
[INAUDIBLE] . I SEE THERE'S A LOT OF THESE MARKED RETAIL AND THERE'S ONE THAT'S MARKED QSR.
WHAT IS QSR? WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND HAVEN'T MOWED AND MAINTAINED.
HE'S GOING TO TAKE OWNERSHIPS.
THAT'S SHORT FOR QSR AS A QUICK SERVICE.
SO SOMETHING WITH A DRIVE THRU STARBUCKS COULD BE CONSIDERED QSR.
[INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER] . SORRY ABOUT THAT. I WAS BLACKED OUT FROM TALKING ON THE LOT X THAT'S TBD.
IS THAT YOUR THINKING? WOULD BE A TYPE OF RETAIL.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOT LIKE PARALLEL PARKING AND KIND OF SMALL BUILDING.
BE THE ONE FURTHEST TO THE NORTH.
IT'S THE ONE ON THE FARTHEST TO THE RIGHT.
THAT ONE. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE LABELED A QSR.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S AND AGAIN, THESE ARE LINES ON PAPER.
WE HAVE NOT COMMITTED TO THE ENTIRE LINE UP YET.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT FITS AND WHERE WE COULD PUT THEM AND SO ON.
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I MEAN, IT'S ALL COMMERCIALS. I LIKE IT.OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:15.
GO AHEAD, CHRIS. I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZA20221230.
ROLL CALL. MR. BELLON? AYE. COMMISSIONER COOPER? AYE. COMMISSIONER SUTTON IS AN AYE.
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? WE'RE ON THE SECOND ONE, RIGHT? [INAUDIBLE].
AYE. AND THE MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO PUBLIC HEARING.
ZA20221433 ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM TASACOM INVESTMENTS, LLC FOR A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT.
FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A PROPERTY BEING 28.451 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE RUFUS SEWER SURVEY.
ABSTRACT NUMBER 873 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
SO THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM AGRICULTURE TO PD 34 AS PROPERTY IS NORTH OF TOWN ON FM 75 AND TO THE SOUTH, I BELIEVE THAT'S COUNTY ROAD 856.
THE REQUEST IS TO CREATE A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
THE THE STANDARDS ARE SIMILAR TO THE SF 2 WITH TWO EXCEPTIONS MINIMUM LOT WIDTH.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO DECREASE THAT FROM 55 FEET TO 50 FEET.
FOR NON CUL DE SAC, LOTS AND 30 FEET FOR CUL DE SAC LOTS.
AND THEN THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK THEY'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE FROM 15 FEET TO FIVE FEET.
I'LL PULL UP THE COMMENTS OF THE PLAN.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE 30 FOOT MINIMUM IS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRIANGULAR SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NARROWER? THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT THOSE CUL DE SAC LOTS WILL BE NARROWER AT THE STREET.
SO EVEN WITH THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, THEY'LL STILL MEET THE 6000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AREA? CORRECT. THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE LOT AREA.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:18.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN SUTTON, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I'M JIM DEWEY, J.D.J.R.
YOU CAN SEE WE'RE SAVING THE LARGER POND ON THIS PROPERTY AND USING IT AS AMENITY.
WE'RE ALSO BUILDING A MASONRY SCREENING WALL ALONG BOTH ROAD FRONTAGES.
THEY'RE MUCH BIGGER THAN THE 6000 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO THEY ALL HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN 6000 FEET.
THANK YOU. WITH THE MASONRY WALLS IN PLACE ON BOTH SIDES IS THIS A GATED COMMUNITY OR JUST?
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NO. NO, IT WILL NOT BE GATED.OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER.
FOR THE DEVELOPER, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:20 AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZA20221433.
I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER BELLON? AYE. COMMISSIONER COOPER? AYE. COMMISSIONER SUTTONS AN AYE.
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? AYE. AND THE MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO.
THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.
PUBLIC HEARING ZA20221452 ZONING MAP AMENDMENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM PRINCETON ESTATES, TEXAS LLC FOR A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A PROPERTY BEING AN 80 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT I'M SORRY, 80 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE DAVID CHERRY SURVEY.
ABSTRACT NUMBER 166 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE 80 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
I'LL SHOW THE APPLICANT'S CONCEPT PLAN.
THAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW HERE.
THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS SUBURBAN, LIVING.
WE'RE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 408.
SUBURBAN LIVING IS DEFINED AS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ON DETACHED LOTS.
THIS PLAN DOESN'T FULLY CONFORM WITH THAT AS IT DOES PROPOSE ADDITIONAL LAND USES.
IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT TXDOT HAS A FUTURE HIGHWAY BYPASS THAT WILL RUN RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROPERTY, A TXDOT THAT HAS NOT FORMALIZED THEIR PLANS.
STAFF CANNOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THIS ZONING CASE.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:23.
AND DID YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TELL YOU WHAT A SMALL WORLD IT IS.
THAT GUY THE LAST GUY WHO'S UP HERE, JIM DEWEY.
J.D.J.R., BECAUSE HE'S J.R., HE JUNIOR.
AND SO I WATCHED HIM GROW UP AS WELL.
AND IT'S A SMALL WORLD BECAUSE HE LIVES OUT IN IRVING LIKE I DO ANYWAY.
COMPLIMENT IN EVERY WAY THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD WORKING WITH THE CITY.
YOU HAVE GREAT STAFF AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE IN A VERY POSITIVE, FAST GROWING ENVIRONMENT.
WE EMBARKED ON THIS PROJECT AND BECAME AWARE OF THE NEW ROAD THAT WAS BEING CONTEMPLATED AND IN THE REVIEW, IT APPEARED AT ONE TIME, OF COURSE, THAT THE LIKELY ALIGNMENT WOULD BE ALONG THE TOP ON 408. AND WE WERE TOLD BY THE CITY THAT WAS NOT A CERTAINTY, BUT IT SEEMED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE TO PLAN FROM KNOWING THAT WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT.
IT COULD SHIFT NORTH OR SOUTH DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND GIVEN THERE'S A NEW ROAD THAT KIND OF CREATED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO GET SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY INSTEAD OF JUST RESIDENTIAL. SO WE CREATED A MIXED USE CONCEPT, WORKED WITH THE STAFF A LOT ON IT.
AND THEN RECENTLY WE GOT THIS.
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SOME DECISIONS AND FIRST WE HAD TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW, IS THAT YOU KNOW, WE DEVELOPED THIS PROJECT WITH THIS UNCERTAINTY AND TOOK THAT RISK.IS THIS NOW CERTAIN SO THAT WE CAN TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND IT'S NOT NOW? IT SEEMS LIKELY.
IF TXDOT WANTS TO DO THIS, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO COOPERATE AND NOT BE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THE ZONING APPROVED.
WHERE IS THIS GOING TO BE? YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
BUT IF IT DOES BECOME A CERTAINTY THAT IT SWITCHES BACK UP HERE, WE WANT TO BE READY TO GO.
YOU KNOW, AND I APOLOGIZE TO CRAIG BECAUSE I KNOW THEY RECOMMENDED AGAINST DOING THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WANTED TO CONSIDER IS, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE WON'T BE REALLY HURTING ANYTHING BY GETTING OUR ZONING WE'LL BE PREPARED.
WE THINK WE'VE DONE THE WORK TO GET IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
AND SO I WANT TO JUST COME AND ASK YOU, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DO EASILY, YOU KNOW, ATLEAST I NEVER DID.
SO I WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT RESPECT AS WELL.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE THE ASK BECAUSE WE PUT A LOT INTO IT.
AND IF WE CAN ESTABLISH THE ZONING? WE'LL NOT ONLY BE READY IF IT CHANGES, BUT WE'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO BETTER EVALUATE THIS PROPERTY FOR WHAT'S TAKEN AWAY FROM US WHEN THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, BECAUSE WE'LL LOSE ABOUT 90 OF OUR LOTS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO RECONFIGURE EVERYTHING.
AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE SOUTHWEST PIECE WHEN THAT CUTS THROUGH.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S FLOODPLAIN ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH TXDOT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU IF WE COULD GET CONSIDERATION TO GET A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.
YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL COULD VERY WELL TURN AROUND, SAY NO, EVEN IF WE HAVE THAT, WE KNOW THAT.
BUT BUT WE WANT TO RESPECTFULLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR THANK YOU COMMENTS.
YEAH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:28.
WHAT'S THE COMMISSIONERS THOUGHTS ON EVERYTHING? CRAIG, I'M GOING TO ASK A SILLY QUESTION, DO WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF TIMELINE OR FRAME ON FROM TXDOT WHEN WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN WHAT THAT PLAN WOULD BE OR WOULD IT BE FINAL? IT IS IMMINENT. THAT'S WHAT WE KEEP HEARING.
THAT'D BE SOON, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT SOON MEANS.
BUT AS SOON AS TXDOT DOES GIVE US FORMAL INDICATION OF THEIR ROUTE, WE WILL WORK TO GET OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP UPDATED ACCORDINGLY. BUT AT THIS TIME, IT IS UNKNOWN.
BUT WE ARE FAIRLY CERTAIN OF WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU ALL WILL SEE THAT AS SOON AS WE KNOW, WE'LL WORK TO UPDATE OUR MAPS.
SO WHEN THAT IS SOLIDIFIED FROM TXDOT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF SUBURBAN LIVING THAT IT'S KIND OF ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOW COULD BE AMENDED COULD BE CHANGED.
AND WE'LL HAVE A POTENTIALLY NEW HIGHWAY THROUGH TOWN.
IT'S GOING TO SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE HOW THIS OUGHT TO DEVELOP.
BUT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, THERE IS NO HIGHWAY ON OUR MAP OR PLAN.
THIS AREA IS SHOWN AS SUBURBAN LIVING.
THIS PLAN DOES NOT MEET COM PLAN AS IT STANDS TODAY SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO NO.
I THINK WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, RESPECTFULLY, WOULD BE TO WAIT ON THAT AND RECOMMEND DENIAL AT THIS POINT, JUST BASED ON OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH NO SOLID
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ANSWER FROM TXDOT ON WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO SHIFT DOWN INTO THE PROPERTY OR POTENTIALLY NOT.ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I GUESS MY REASON TO CONSIDER THE DENIAL WOULD ONLY BE BECAUSE WE MIGHT POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO PUT MORE COMMERCIAL THAN WHAT THE MIXED USE WOULD OFFER.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY I KNOW.
SUBURBAN LIVING WOULDN'T FIT WITH THIS HIGHWAY GOING IN.
BUT MAYBE TO CONSIDER WHAT OTHER COMMERCIAL COULD GO THERE WHEN IT DOES FINALLY GET FINALIZED.
THIS VERY WELL MIGHT BE A BENEFICIAL AND LUCRATIVE PROPERTY TO DEVELOP AS COMMERCIAL.
IF THE ROAD PATH GOES THAT DIRECTION.
UM, MR. FISHER, WHAT WOULD BE DESCRIBED TO ME KIND OF A HYPOTHETICAL IMPLICATION IF THIS WERE APPROVED AS IT STOOD AS THIS PD AND THEN A WEEK OR 60 OR 90 DAYS FROM NOW.
TXDOT TO KNOCKED ON YOUR DOOR AND ANNOUNCE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BISECT THIS PROPERTY.
WHAT WOULD IT DO TO THE STATE OF THE PD? WOULD THE PD STAND WITH ITS THE IMPLICATIONS AS IT SITS OR WHAT IT STILL HAVE TO COME FORTH FOR REZONING.
SO I IMAGINE THEY WOULD COME BACK FOR A REZONING TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT ALIGNS WITH THE HIGHWAY.
I JUST THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH UP IN THE AIR.
RIGHT NOW WITH THE TXDOT FINALIZING THE PATH OF THAT HIGHWAY.
NO, I AGREE. I THINK I ALSO HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AS JERRY AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL RETAIL THAT MAKES USE I KNOW RIGHT NOW IS CONCEPTUAL.
BUT IT'S NO USE TO US DEEP DIVING INTO THAT ASPECT UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT TIMELINE.
OKAY. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM SOMEONE ? WITH BASIS, SOME SORT OF BASIS.
I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ZA20221452 BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO MAY BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE FUTURE. [INAUDIBLE] BYPASS.
I HAVE A MOTION GOT A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, NOTING THAT AYE AS THE AGREEMENT TO DENY THE MOTION OR DENY THE APPLICATION. COMMISSIONER BELLON? AYE. COMMISSIONER COOPER? AYE. I'M AN AYE. AND COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? AYE. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO.
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APPLICATION IS RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DENIAL.AND THANK YOU AGAIN.[INAUDIBLE].
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, ADAM.
PL20220618. PRELIMINARY PLAT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM GRBK EDGEWOOD LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 427.09 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE WILLIAM THOMPSON SURVEY.
ABSTRACT NUMBER 892 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
THIS REQUEST IS FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL OF A 15 OR EXCUSE ME, THE PROJECT WILL CONSIST OF 1550 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, ONE AMENITY CENTER LOT, ONE COMMERCIAL LOT AND 73 OPEN SPACE LOTS.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THIS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY LIMITS? CORRECT? YES, IT IS. THIS PROPERTY IS CITY LIMITS.
OKAY. IT WAS RIGHT THERE ON THE EDGE, PRETTY CLOSE.
DOES THE DEVELOPER HAVE ANY SORT OF PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SAY OR.
I'M ACTUALLY. I'M HERE FOR THE NEXT ONE.
MR. FISHER, THERE WAS, I THINK, A NOTE ON HERE.
THERE WAS GOING TO BE ONE COMMERCIAL SPACE AND IT LOOKS OF RELATIVELY DECENT SIZE.
IS THERE ANY INDICATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
IT'S SHOWN US JUST A LOT AT THIS POINT.
AND AT THIS POINT UNDER CURRENT PD.
COULD IT BE ANY? ANY COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT? WHETHER IT BE RESTAURANT OR RETAIL OR.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH THE PD TO SPECIFICALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, SO I'M NOT SURE.
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LAST QUESTION I HAD. I SEE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE SPOT ON THE MAP FOR A PROPOSED LIFT STATION.AS WELL AS SOME PROPOSED EMERGENCY, SOMETHING TOO SMALL FOR ME TO READ.
BUT AS PART OF THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN.
DOES THAT INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE ADD ONS THAT MIGHT.
BENEFIT NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES WITH REGARDS TO EITHER POWER OR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE OR SEWER.
THE STATION IS FOR SEWER AND THE EMERGENCY IS FOR AN EMERGENCY SIREN.
THOSE WILL THE EMERGENCY SIREN WILL SERVE THE GREATER AREA.
THE LIFT STATION IS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IN BLOCK A THAT IS LABELED AS PROPOSED BUILD TO RENT SPACE.
THAT RENTAL HOMES BE BESIDE WHAT'S ALREADY HERE.
CORRECT. THERE WOULD BE UNITS IN ADDITION TO THE 1550.
THAT'S A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE ACTUALLY REVIEWING A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THAT LOT.
THAT WOULD BE A BUILD TO RENT PRODUCT.
SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT SIMILAR TO THE COMMUNITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ADJACENT TO CITY HALL.
BUT AT THIS TIME ON THIS PRELIMINARY PLOT, IT'S SHOWN AS ONE LARGE LOT.
BUT THERE IS ACTIVITY ON THAT, AND WE'LL SEE THAT PLAN IN THE COMING MONTHS.
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE PD ORIGINALLY.
YES. THE PD PERMITS THE BUILD TO RENT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS DOWN HERE? IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT 20220618.
I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND.
ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER BELLON? AYE. COMMISSIONER COOPER? AYE. COMMISSIONER SUTTON IS AN AYE.
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? AYE. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO.
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A REQUEST FROM GR BK EDGEWOOD LLC FOR FINAL PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 35.86 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE RUFUS SEWELL SURVEY.
ABSTRACT NUMBER 873 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
THIS IS A REQUEST IS FOR FINAL PLAT APPROVAL.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL CONSIST OF 144 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND SIX OPEN SPACE LOTS IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH OF TOWN ON THE WEST SIDE OF FM 75, SOUTH OF FM 1827.
GOT THE PLOT HERE BEFORE YOU, BUT THIS IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SORRY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FINAL PLAT FP 20210052.
I'LL SECOND. I HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL VOTE.
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? AYE. COMMISSIONER COOPER? AYE. COMMISSIONER SUTTON AN AYE.
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A PROPERTY BEING A 19.99 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE DAVID CHERY SURVEY.ABSTRACT NUMBER 166 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 408 TO THE WEST OF FM 75.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
SO IS THIS THE SAME GENERAL? WHERE ARE WE LOOKING AT IN PROXIMITY TO THE ONE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE TXDOT? THIS IS NORTH OF 408, WHEREAS THE OTHER PROJECT WAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
BUT THERE'S NO THREAT OF THE LOOP MOVING NORTH? I GUESS NOT AT THIS TIME, NO.
IT'S FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT IT'LL BE TO THE SOUTH, THE SOUTH OR WHERE IT CURRENTLY WAS.
SO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AS THINGS STAND TODAY, WILL MOST LIKELY NOT BE IMPACTED.
OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY. SURE.
MR. FISCHER. I SEE ON THE AWE SHOOT, [INAUDIBLE] DIRECTIONS ARE HARD ON HERE, BUT THERE IS A PROPOSED EMERGENCY SIREN IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF THE FRAME IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THAT PROPERTY LINE.
IS THAT A RESIDENTIAL HOME OR IS THAT.
UNDEVELOPED LAND AT THIS POINT.
SO THE SIREN EASEMENT IS LOCATED WITHIN A COMMON AREA.
A LOT THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE HIGHWAY.
SO. THIS AREA HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS CIRCLING IS THAT COMMON AREA, AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, IS THAT RESIDENTIAL? JUST TO THE LEFT ON THE SCREEN THERE.
IS THAT VACANT? YEAH. THIS IS THE COUNTY ROAD 408.
GOT YOU. THAT'S HOW IT STANDS IN THE EARTH, YOU KNOW, IN REAL LIFE, I GUESS. NORTH AND OUT TO THE TOP, THAT'S A LOT MORE HELPFUL.
COULD YOU COULD YOU REMIND US THESE TWO PROPOSED BUILDINGS KIND OF WHAT THAT IS? THERE YOU GO. OKAY.
SO THESE TWO PROPOSED BUILDINGS ARE OPEN TO PUBLIC.
FIRST ONE ON THE LEFT OR SOUTH WILL BE AN EVENT SPACE ENCLOSED BUILDING EVENT, BIG EVENT SPACE THAT COULD BE USED AS AN AMENITY FOR RESIDENCES. AND THE ONE ON THE NORTH WILL BE A WORSHIP PLACE THAT OUR DEVELOPERS WANTED TO HAVE.
AND THE ONE IN THE CENTER IS AN OPEN AIR PAVILION.
IT'S COVERED, BUT IT'S NOT AN ENCLOSED BUILDING.
SO YOU'RE THINKING LIKE WEDDINGS ARE RENTALS? SURE. I DON'T KNOW REALLY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE IT, WITH RENT OR NOT, BUT IT WILL BE OPEN TO BE USED BY THE COMMUNITY OR PEOPLE PUBLIC.
I GUESS THE HOA WOULD MAINTAIN THAT OR KEEP RECORDS OF WHO'S RENTING IT.
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YOU MENTIONED THE ARCHITECTURE WOULD CHANGE.HOW WILL IT LOOK IN THE NEW PLAN? WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURE PROPOSED IN OUR INITIAL.
IT WILL BE A SIMPLE BUILDING IN THAT THE ONE IN THE NORTH.
IT WILL BE A ONE STORY BUILDING, RELATIVELY OPEN.
IT WILL BE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WILL GATHER AND WORSHIP.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A RENDERING THAT I'M REMEMBERING TOO.
BUT I REMEMBER IT LOOKED WE USE SOME IMAGES THAT THERE ARE SOME TEMPLES LIKE IN FRISCO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ALLEN HAVE USED SOME OF THOSE AS THE PRESS AND THAT'S BEEN DONE AROUND THE METROPLEX.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT PL 20212597.
I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER BELLON? AYE. COMMISSIONER COOPER? AYE. COMMISSIONER SUTTON IS AN AYE.
COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? AYE. AND THE MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO INFORMATION.
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NEXT MEETING AUGUST 15, 2022.ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE A P AND Z AGENDA ITEM IN PARTICULAR, BUT WE'RE ADDING A LOT OF LOTS THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN WHERE 75 AND MONTE CARLO ARE WITH THAT LIGHT AND I KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE A TURN LANE THE WAY EITHER DIRECTION IS CONSTRUCTED, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT SIGNALIZED WHERE THERE'S A LEFT TURN ARROW, WHERE ONLY ONE DIRECTION GOES AT A TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO GET BUSIER AND IT'S ALREADY PRETTY STEADY TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE.
OKAY, I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
SURE, I'LL SHARE THAT WITH THE DIRECTOR, SHAUN FORT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON THE FUTURE ITEMS? NUMBER THREE, ANY UPDATES ON ONGOING PROJECTS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CRAIG ABOUT THAT? HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF TRACTOR SUPPLY? I KNOW THAT HAD FAILED TO PASS AS PD 13 OR PD 24, I THINK.
AND THEN THE [INAUDIBLE] ALSO FAILED, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES AT THIS TIME.
I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU. ANY UPDATE, NUMBER FOUR, UPDATE REGARDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND THIS IS JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION THAT YOU.
YOU ALL ALSO WERE APPOINTED TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES COMING TO OUR IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING.
WE'LL BE SCHEDULING A MEETING FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.
SO JUST AN FYI THAT BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING THAT.
OKAY. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE. CARRIES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.