[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:02] HELLO. CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. CITY OF PRINCETON, NOVEMBER 21ST, 2022. ROLL CALL. KYLE SUTTON IS HERE. SHERRY CAMPBELL HERE. ROBERT BELLON JR IS NOT PRESENT. CHRIS COOPER HERE AND ROBIN FORSYTH IS NOT PRESENT. NOW, PLEASE JOIN ME IN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PUBLIC APPEARANCE. SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO OR DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS SECTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKERS INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY AND RESPONSE TO ANY INQUIRY. ARE YOU HERE FOR THE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN THE PUBLIC APPEARANCE? WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COMMISSIONER SO REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA. ITEM 1 MINUTES, POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF THE PRINCETON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 17TH, 2022. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 17, 2022. I'LL SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. I MOTION CARRIES THREE ZERO. FP 20201952 FINAL PLAT. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A REQUEST FROM PRINCETON CROSSROADS PFC FOR FINAL PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 12.565 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE JOHN SNYDER SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 865. CITY OF PRINCETON. COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS. AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FINAL PLAT FP 20201952. I WAS THINKING OF A MOTION. A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES THREE ZERO REGULAR AGENDA. [REGULAR AGENDA] PUBLIC HEARING. ZA20222333. ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM AMERICO REAL ESTATE COMPANY FOR A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FOR A PROPERTY BEING AN 8.83 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE JOHN SNYDER SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 865 CITY OF PRINCETON, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION. CRAIG FISHER, PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE CITY. SO THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE EXISTING PD 13 FOR THE PRINCETON CROSSROADS DEVELOPMENT. THE AMENDMENT WOULD JUST APPLY TO THIS 8.83 ACRE TRACT OF LAND THAT'S IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE NEW APARTMENTS HERE ACROSS THE STREET. THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL LAND USE FOR MINI STORAGE OR PUBLIC WAREHOUSE AND TRUCK AND BUS LEASING FOR U-HAUL BUSINESS. THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO. SOME STIPULATIONS THAT WOULD REQUIRE SCREENING BETWEEN THE THE PROPOSED U-HAUL BUSINESS AND THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE A TRACT FOR THE 8.8 ACRE TRACT WHERE THE ADDITIONAL USES FOR MINI STORAGE AND PUBLIC WAREHOUSE AND TRUCK AND BUS LEASING WOULD BE PERMITTED. HERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING HOW THE SITE COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS, AND THEN THE GREEN HERE DENOTES AREAS OF LANDSCAPE SCREENING. THE PLAN STIPULATIONS ARE SET FORTH HERE ON THE SCREEN. THIS. ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. STAFF FINDS THAT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WITH THE ADDED SCREENING, IT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS AREA. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE. THE ORIGINAL 13 HAD. THIS IS JUST STRICTLY STORAGE AS A PUBLIC STORAGE. NO, IT'S JUST COMMERCIAL ZONING FOR THIS AREA. PUBLIC WAREHOUSE. THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED AS C TWO IN THE ORIGINAL PD AND PUBLIC WAREHOUSE REQUIRES AN. SO RATHER THAN GO THE SUP. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE TO REQUIRE THE SCREENING AND INCREASE THE BUILDING HEIGHT. [00:05:05] IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO GET THERE RATHER THAN SOUP. THEY'RE GOING THROUGH ZONING. ON THE WEST SIDE. THE PROPOSED BUILDING A, FOUR STORY, IS THAT STORAGE? YES, THIS THIS FOUR STORY BUILDING HERE ON THE WEST SIDE WOULD BE PUBLIC STORAGE. AND THEN THE ONE STORY BUILDING ALSO HAVE A SIMILAR USE. I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THOSE BUILDINGS BE USED. ARE YOU THE APPLICANT? ON THE FOUR STORY. IS THAT ENCLOSED. OH, SORRY. YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM. SORRY. BUT MATT MERRILL WITH AMERICO REAL ESTATE AND HIS 4101 WEST PLANO PARKWAY IN PLANO, TEXAS. SO THE FOUR STORY BUILDING IS ALL INTERIOR CLIMATE CONTROL STORAGE. THANK YOU. AND ONE OTHER POINT, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THERE, AND I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE ORIGINAL PD, SELF STORAGE WAS ALLOWED. THE PD AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE DOING IS BECAUSE OF HEIGHT. IT WAS ONLY ALLOWED AT 12 FOOT. THE TRUCK AND TRAILER IS BEING ADDED TO THAT AS WELL. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. CHAIRMAN, IF WE COULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M SORRY. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 607. AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:07. AND NOW I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT ZA20222333. I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. HI. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES THREE ZERO. PL 20222615. PRELIMINARY PLAT. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM HUFFINES COMMUNITIES. FROM PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 60.22 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE WILLIAM DE THOMPSON SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 892 COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS. IT'S IN THE CITY'S ETJ OR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION ALONG COUNTY ROAD 392, JUST TO THE EAST OF FM 546, SOUTH OF HARPER ELEMENTARY. THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THREE LOTS FOR A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. CONSIST OF 390 SINGLE FAMILY, FOR RENT UNITS AND AN AMENITY CENTER AND A LIFT STATION LOT. THESE PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF AND ARE FOUND TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. I NOTICED ON THE EXHIBIT B LAND USE. IT SHOWS THREE COMMERCIAL LOTS. IS THAT ALSO IN THE.. CORRECT, SO THIS WOULD BE A FOR RENT COMMUNITY. SO ALL OF THE UNITS WILL BE ON ONE LOT, ALL OWNED BY ONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, AND THEN INDIVIDUAL UNITS WOULD BE LEASED. SO BUT THE LAND USE IS MULTIFAMILY. BUT. SO THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IN THERE, LIKE RETAIL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IT'S ALL. NO, JUST RENT RENTAL RESIDENCES, CORRECT? WHAT TYPE OF. HOUSING, IS IT? I KNOW YOU SAID SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IS IT LIKE TOWNHOMES OR THERE'S NOTHING ON HERE TO REALLY SHOW THAT. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THERE'LL BE INDIVIDUAL STANDALONE BUILDINGS, SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT ALL OF THEM WILL BE FOR RENT. [00:10:05] THE APPLICANT IS HERE. THEY CAN PROBABLY. CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I CAN. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. GARRETT HUFFINES WITH HUFFINES COMMUNITIES, 8200 DOUGLAS AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS. THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT TYPE OF HOMES ARE THEY GOING TO BE? WE'RE STILL HAVEN'T DECIDED THAT AS FAR AS HOW THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO WORK, BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE INDIVIDUAL UNITS. THEY WON'T HAVE SHARED WALLS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND SQUARE FOOTAGE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S LIKE AS OF Z AS THAT ONE? WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE GOING TO LET KIND OF THE MARKET DECIDE. BUT THERE'LL BE 1000 TO 2000 SQUARE FEET, PROBABLY. THEY'LL BE TOO BED, MAYBE THREE BED UNITS. WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES? STILL UNDECIDED. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PLANNING A LARGE POND. WE'RE PLANNING ON STOCKING THAT WITH FISH. MAYBE A PICKLEBALL COURT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NO REAL AIR CONDITIONED SPACE, THOUGH. OKAY. THE QUESTIONS, OF COURSE. WHAT IS THE DESIGNATION WITH THE LOTS TWO AND LOT THREE? IS THAT WHERE THE AMENITY CENTER, THE TWO SMALLER LOTS? I SEE A LIFT STATION IN ONE THING. YES. ONE LOT IS GOING TO BE A LIVE STATION LOT THAT WE WILL BE CONSTRUCTING AND DEDICATING THAT TO THE CITY. AND THE OTHER LOT IS OUR AMENITY LOT. AND THAT'S WHERE A LARGE OPEN SPACE IS GOING TO BE, AS WELL AS THE LEASING OFFICE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT PL 20222. 615. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES THREE ZERO. INFORMATION. NEXT MEETING, DECEMBER 19TH, 2022. [INFORMATION] ITEM NUMBER TWO ADU ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT DISCUSSION. YES. COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL HAD REQUESTED A COUPLE OF TIMES TO DISCUSS ADUS OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS LIKE A GUEST HOUSE OR A MOTHER IN LAW SUITE. TYPICALLY, IN ALL OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, THERE'S ONE UNIT IS PERMITTED PER LOT. AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WOULD BE A SMALLER UNIT THAT WOULD INCLUDE A FULL KITCHEN BATHROOM. LIKE A MOTHER IN LAW APARTMENT. CURRENTLY, WE DO HAVE GUEST HOUSES IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND THEY ARE PERMITTED IN THE AGRICULTURE, THE ESTATE AND THE [00:15:05] SMALL STATE ZONING DISTRICTS. AND THEN THEY ARE GUEST HOUSES ARE ALLOWED BY SUP IN THE SF ONE, SF TWO AND THE TWO FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS. SO WE HAVE SOME LIMITED OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN THE CITY AT THIS TIME, WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED BY SUP AND THE SF ONE SF TWO ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH IS MOST OF THE CITY. I THINK IT WOULD BE PRETTY DIFFICULT TO GET AN ACTUAL GUEST HOUSE PERMITTED BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS HAVE VERY SMALL LOTS. THERE'S LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS IN THE ORDINANCE REGULATING THOSE GUEST HOUSES. SO IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, I DID DO SOME RESEARCH IN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO EXCEED THE MINIMUM COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS. THERE'S. I GUESS I WANTED TO GET FROM YOU, COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL, WHERE YOU WANTED TO TAKE THIS OR YOU WANTED TO EXPLORE ADOPTING NEW REGULATIONS, LOOKING AT WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, EXPANDING UPON THAT. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? SO I WAS THINKING LIKE SPECIFICALLY MY LOT IS IS IN TOWN AND IT'S ONE ACRE, BUT IT'S ZONED AS F ONE. SO THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH OUR EXISTING ORDINANCES. AND THAT MAY BE FINE. IT WOULD DEFINITELY PASS THE COVERAGE TEST BECAUSE IT'S AN ACRE LOT. AND I WAS JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLACES IN MCKINNEY DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE THEY HAVE A LOT OF ADD ONS, THE ADUS FOR MOTHER IN LAW SUITES, AS YOU SAID, OR EVEN ATTACHED APARTMENTS TO THE EXISTING DWELLING. SO I DIDN'T KNOW. I KNOW THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE GOING IN NOW, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE ANYTHING BUT JUST FOR THE OLDER PARTS OF TOWN, IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE ORDINANCE OR MAYBE THEY JUST WOULD USE THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THOSE CASES. SO AS IT STANDS TODAY, THEY COULD APPLY FOR AN SUP. THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT YOU CAN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING LESS RESTRICTIVE THROUGH AN SUP. SO IF A LOT COVERAGE COULDN'T BE MET, YOU COULDN'T PROVIDE ANY LEEWAY THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS SO YOU WOULD BE LIMITED TO OUR LARGER LOTS AS IT STANDS TODAY. OKAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THAT OR NOT. I WAS LOOKING AT IT MYSELF. JUST I KNOW I CAN ADD ON TO MY HOUSE WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM AT ALL. BUT AS FAR AS THE. AND IT SEPARATED, DETACHED TYPE UNIT. AND I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT AS A FUTURE OPTION FOR OTHER RESIDENCES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. SURE. THAT WOULD BE DOABLE THROUGH AN SUP. OKAY. THEN THAT REALLY ANSWERS THE QUESTION. OKAY. SURE. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER THREE, HOME RULE CHARTER DISCUSSION. SO FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE HOME RULE CHARTER WAS APPROVED LAST FRIDAY. THERE IS ONE SECTION IN THAT CHARTER THAT APPLIES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SO I PROVIDED THAT HERE IN THIS DOCUMENT. THAT'S SECTION 9.01. OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE INCREASED TO SEVEN MEMBERS WITH A TWO YEAR STAGGERED TERMS. SO THE ADDITION OF TWO MEMBERS. OTHERWISE, YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES WILL REMAIN THE SAME. I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBER COMMISSIONERS WILL BE ADDED, BUT I ANTICIPATE IN THE COMING MONTHS. THEY'LL BE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL, SIMILAR TO HOW YOU ALL WERE APPOINTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THESE REQUESTS AT THIS TIME. ANYONE. OKAY. ANY UP GOING UPDATE OF ONGOING PROJECTS. CRAIG. BEECHAM IS OPEN. THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. SURE. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE UNLESS YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANY ACTIVITY OR CHANGES WITH THE 20 SOMETHING ACRES BY TRACTOR SUPPLY? I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY FORMAL REQUESTS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES THREE ZERO. WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.