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    NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

    [00:00:04]

    PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

    CITY OF PRINCETON SPECIAL MEETING JUNE 20TH, 2023.

    COMMISSIONER ROLL CALL.

    CALL]. PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES AND STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

    PUBLIC APPEARANCE SPEAKERS HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

    THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND OR TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS SECTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO ANY INQUIRY.

    IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON EITHER ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WAIT TILL THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO COMMENT ON THAT.

    BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY IN THE PUBLIC APPEARANCE? THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

    [CONSENT AGENDA]

    ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

    THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COMMISSIONER SO REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA.

    WE HAVE THREE ITEMS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA.

    THE MINUTES POSSIBLE APPROVAL OF PRINCETON ZONING PRINCETON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

    REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 15TH.

    FINAL PLAT FP 20200052 AND FINAL PLAT FP 20190889.

    I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

    I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

    I'LL SECOND. HAVE A MOTION SECOND.

    ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. AYE.

    MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

    [REGULAR AGENDA]

    MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

    PUBLIC HEARING. ZA 20231345.

    ZONING MAP AMENDMENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM 384 GROVE PROPERTY LP FOR A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 24.08 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE DAVID SHERRY SURVEY.

    ABSTRACT NUMBER 166 COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.

    GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION CRAIG FISHER, PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF PRINCETON.

    THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM C1 TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR MULTIFAMILY AND A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PRINCETON DRIVE AT SOUTH FOREST GROVE.

    THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO TO CREATE THIS MIXED USE DISTRICT.

    I'LL PULL UP THE CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING THE INTENDED DEVELOPMENT SCHEME.

    SEE THAT HERE WITH THE COUPLE OF COMMERCIAL LOTS ALONG PRINCETON DRIVE AND THEN MULTIFAMILY TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

    A. THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN MAP OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON SHOWS THIS AS A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS SUPPORTIVE OF RETAIL.

    OTHER COMMERCIAL USES AS A PRIMARY LAND USE.

    APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS ARE ALSO SUPPORTED.

    SO FOR THIS REASON, STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.

    I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.

    OKAY. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 608.

    I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER FIRST AND THEN WE CAN HEAR FROM ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK.

    [00:05:17]

    DAVID BROWN 14881 QUORUM DRIVE.

    DALLAS, TEXAS. 75254.

    GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

    WE'LL JUST WAIT FOR THE SLIDE DECK TO OPEN UP HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS PROPOSED NUMBER 30 PRINCETON GATEWAY.

    JUST AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER A PROPERTY OVERVIEW, TALK ABOUT THE ADHERENCE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, A SUMMARY OF THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AND THEN ADDRESS SOME OF THE RESIDENT CONCERNS, BOTH PRIOR RESIDENT CONCERNS THAT I FEEL HAS BEEN EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSED AND THEN CURRENT RESIDENT CONCERNS THAT HAVE SEEN OUT THERE IN VARIOUS PUBLIC FORUMS. HERE'S THE PROPERTY OVERVIEW SITE AERIAL SOUTH FOREST GROVE AND US 380 OR PRINCETON DRIVE.

    KEY FACTS. THE PROPERTY IS 24.8 ACRES.

    CURRENT ZONING IS C1.

    THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN OWNED BY THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER SINCE 2008 AND VARIOUS PARTNERSHIPS AND AFFILIATES AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE VERY ACTIVE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS WITHIN DFW, MCKINNEY, PLANO, ROWLETT AND GARLAND ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THE MARKETS THAT THEY'RE ACTIVE IN.

    HERE'S THE VISION STATEMENT.

    I'LL SKIP OVER THIS LAND USE STRATEGY.

    AGAIN, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, IT PROMOTES QUALITY RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE GROWING COMMUNITY.

    IT WILL DIVERSIFY THE CITY'S HOUSING STOCK TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH OPTIONS TO LIVE IN PRINCETON AT ALL STAGES OF THEIR LIFE.

    AND IT WILL PROMOTE A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND A MORE LIVABLE CITY THROUGH PROACTIVE PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND URBAN DESIGN PRACTICES.

    IT WILL CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE MORE LOCAL CHOICES FOR ENTERTAINMENT, DINING AND PUBLIC SOCIAL SPACES TO ENCOURAGE NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT DIVERSIFIES THE CITY TAX BASE BY ATTRACTING NEW INDUSTRY AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

    IT WILL CERTAINLY PROMOTE THE CITY AS THE DESTINATION FOR OFFICE SPACE IN ADDITION TO RETAIL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.

    AND THIS IS CERTAINLY CONSIDERED A WALKABLE, MIXED USE AREA THAT WILL OFFER A MIX OF SHOPPING, ENTERTAINMENT AND RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS.

    LET'S SKIP FORWARD CURRENT LAND USE PLAN.

    AGAIN, IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

    IT'S CURRENTLY AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION.

    FUTURE LAND USE IS HIGHWAY CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL.

    AS CRAIG ALLUDED TO, APARTMENTS ARE A PRIMARY LAND USE RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS, BUSINESS PARKS, HOTELS, ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS, SERVICE OFFICE USES.

    LET ME. AS A SUMMARY OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

    THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN.

    THIS IS JUST AS STATED IN THE CITY OF PRINCETON ZONING ORDINANCE.

    DEVELOPER'S INTENT WOULD HAVE SHOWN THIS EVENING OR FOR SIT DOWN RESTAURANT BUILDINGS ALONG THE US 380 FRONTAGE THAT TOTALED 24,000FT².

    THIS IS WHAT DEVELOPMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH FOUR BUILDINGS.

    THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT.

    I WANT TO BE AS FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE.

    THIS IS WHAT THAT SAME RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND RESTAURANT SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE ACROSS TWO BUILDINGS.

    AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU CAN HAVE KIND OF A MIXTURE OF THE TWO AND HAVE MAYBE THREE RESTAURANTS I'M SORRY, TWO ON THE LEFT WITHIN ONE BUILDING, AND THEN KIND OF TWO RESTAURANTS ON THE RIGHT RETAIL TRACT WITH SOME OUTDOOR SPACE.

    AGAIN, KIND OF LIKE THE STATION AT SACHSE WHERE YOU HAVE TWO RESTAURANTS AND THEN AN OUTDOOR PATIO FOR FOR DINING IN BETWEEN.

    IMPORTANT TO NOTE, THE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS ARE GUARANTEED FOR THE LAND USE REGULATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED THIS EVENING AND I QUOTE RESTAURANTS AND ACCESSORY USES THERETO SHALL BE THE ONLY PERMITTED USE ON RETAIL TRACT ONE RETAIL TRACT TWO AND RETAIL TRACK THREE.

    ALL RESTAURANTS WILL BE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.

    NO RESTAURANTS SHALL BE A LOT SHALL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A DRIVE THRU.

    AGAIN, RESIDENTS HAVE VOICED THEIR DESIRE FOR SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS AND THIS LAND USE GUARANTEES THOSE RESTAURANTS.

    UM, WANTED TO FURTHER ELABORATE ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, JUST THE BUILDING CLASS QUALITY OF THE APARTMENTS, THE AMENITIES, THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, AND THEN THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND SECURITY.

    THAT WAS THE DEVELOPER OF THE MULTIFAMILY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS BUILDING WHILE I WAS THE HEAD OF THE NORTH TEXAS OFFICE FOR THE NRP GROUP.

    THIS IS IN PRINCETON TO DAY.

    SO I SOURCED THIS, OVERSAW THE DESIGN AND ENTITLEMENTS AND THEN LEFT TO FOUND BLOCK 20 PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION START.

    BUT THIS WAS ONE OF MY DEALS AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT I DEVELOP.

    RESIDENT ENTRY.

    A TYPICAL UNIT, BEDROOM, BATHROOM, GRANITE COUNTERTOPS.

    [00:10:05]

    HIGHLY AMENITIZED FOR LUXURY LIVING.

    THIS RESORT STYLE POOLS WITH KITCHENS AND GAMING AREAS WITH PEOPLE WORKING REMOTE.

    THERE'S BUSINESS CENTERS AND CONFERENCE ROOMS, FITNESS CENTERS, DOG PARKS.

    THERE'S POCKET PARKS, ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACES AND AGAIN, GRANITE COUNTERTOPS, STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES AND PRIVATE GARAGES.

    SO THIS REALLY IS UPSCALE CLASS, A HIGH END MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

    HERE ARE SOME OF THESE AMENITIES THE POOL AREA, THE RESIDENT LOUNGE COMMUNITY KITCHEN.

    BUSINESS CENTER ON SITE FITNESS.

    AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT IS IN PRINCETON TODAY.

    TARGETED DEMOGRAPHICS.

    SO WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? 65 TO 80% OF THE RESIDENTS WILL LIKELY BE PROFESSIONAL COUPLES, EMPTY NESTERS, FAMILIES AND SINGLE PARENTS.

    THIS IS A MARKET STUDY THAT I HAD COMMISSIONED SPECIFIC TO THIS PROPERTY AND SPECIFIC TO THE PRINCETON SUBMARKET.

    AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE INCOMES RANGING FROM 75,000 TO $200,000.

    AVERAGE RENTS FROM 1200 TO 1600 PLUS 2200.

    SUBJECT PROPERTY IS BEING UNDERWRITTEN AT ABOUT $1200 TO $2500.

    AVERAGE MONTHLY RENT.

    THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

    I DO NOT HAVE IN-HOUSE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, NOR DO I DESIRE THAT THAT IS BY DESIGN.

    I'VE HAD RELATIONSHIPS AND PRIOR DEALINGS WITH GREYSTAR, WHICH IS THE LARGEST PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY IN THE COUNTRY.

    LINCOLN PROPERTY COMPANY AND ARES MANAGEMENT.

    THESE ARE ALL TOP NOTCH THIRD PARTY MARKET RATE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES.

    SO THIS IS NON-SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, NOT HIGH TECH, BUT MARKET RATE AND IT WILL BE ONSITE MANAGEMENT.

    THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND SECURITY.

    SO HERE'S A BRIEF LISTING OF SOME OF THE SECURITY FEATURES.

    THERE'S NO VARIANCES WITH REGARDS TO SITE FENCING AND LANDSCAPING.

    VEHICULAR ACCESS WILL REQUIRE A KEY FOB AT ALL THE VEHICULAR ACCESS GATES.

    RESIDENTS AND THEIR GUESTS WILL HAVE TO HAVE A KEY FOB AS WELL TO ACCESS THE BUILDINGS.

    THERE'LL BE CAMERAS AT HIGH IMPACT AREAS, POINTS OF ENTRY, AND THERE'S TYPICALLY A COURTESY OFFICER TO PATROL THE COMMUNITY AT NIGHT.

    HERE ARE SOME OF THE PRIOR RESIDENT CONCERNS.

    DRAINAGE, LIGHT POLLUTION, PRIVACY AND ADHERENCE TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

    AGAIN, I BELIEVE WE'VE DISCUSSED THESE PREVIOUSLY AND I FEEL AS THOUGH THEY'RE ADEQUATELY BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO RESIDENT FEEDBACK THIS EVENING AND HAPPY TO ADDRESS FURTHER IF DEEMED NECESSARY.

    SO WHAT I'M HEARING NOW FROM PUBLIC FORUMS, FACEBOOK, OTHER BLOGS AND POSTS, IF YOU WILL, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS THERE'S LIMITED VACANT PROPERTY THAT REMAINS ON US 380.

    BASED ON MY CALCULATION, THERE'S 554 ACRES OF REMAINING VACANT LAND THAT FRONTS US 380, AND THAT'S DELINEATED HERE IN RED.

    AND SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING TRACKS ALONG US 380.

    THE OTHER PHENOMENON AT PLAY HERE IS THERE IS THE US 380 REALIGNMENT.

    AND SO AGAIN, YOU'RE ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ADDING ADDITIONAL 380 FRONTAGE AS THAT REALIGNMENT OCCURS IN THE FUTURE.

    AND THAT REALIGNMENT WILL CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RETAIL CORRIDOR CORRIDOR THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER.

    THE OTHER ITEM THAT I'LL MENTION IS EXPANSION OF CITY LIMITS WILL OFFER NEW COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES.

    ON THE LEFT IS FROM APRIL OF 2021.

    ON THE RIGHT IS MAY 2023, AND YOU CAN SEE THE EXPANSION OF THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON, BOTH ON THE NORTH AND TO A LESSER EXTENT ON THE SOUTH.

    SO AGAIN, AS PROPERTY OWNERS AND AS LAND IS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.

    ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS I'VE HEARD CONSISTENTLY IS TOO MUCH TRAFFIC.

    THIS WAS A TIA THAT WAS PERFORMED BY PACHECO COKE.

    THIS IS BASED ON IT.

    EACH TRIP GENERATION MANUALS.

    I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT THE TAKEAWAY YOU CAN SEE IN RED, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL, IS A MUCH MORE INTENSIVE USE THAN MULTIFAMILY.

    WHEN YOU LOOK AT ESPECIALLY THE PEAK HOUR TRIP GENERATIONS, IT'S FOUR TIMES WHAT MULTIFAMILY IS.

    AND SO IF NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS ARE HESITANT ON THE TRAFFIC, MULTIFAMILY IS ACTUALLY A POSITIVE RELATIVE TO COMMERCIAL TO MANY APARTMENTS.

    THIS IS A BIG ONE.

    AND UNDERSTANDING THAT PRINCETON IS GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY.

    ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH FROM 20 FROM THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE 2020.

    IT LOOKS LIKE 2020 TO 20, 22, 34.5%.

    I KNOW THAT'S PAINFUL, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT MORE ESTABLISHED MARKETS, UNDERSTANDING THE PRINCETON IS ITS OWN CITY.

    [00:15:06]

    IT'S A GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE, GOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND IT'S INDEPENDENT.

    SOMETIMES IT IS NICE TO JUST TRIANGULATE DATA AND SEE WHAT OTHER SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITIES ARE DOING.

    MCKINNEY FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE 65% OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING.

    PLANO 58%.

    OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING.

    PRINCETON HAS 74%.

    AND SO UNDERSTANDING THERE'S A VIEW THAT THERE'S TOO MANY APARTMENTS RELATIVE TO OTHER SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITIES THAT OFFER A SIMILAR LIFESTYLE.

    THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE.

    AND YOU CAN SEE PROPERTY VALUES AS WELL.

    MEDIAN HOME PRICES IN PRINCETON ARE A LITTLE BIT BELOW MCKINNEY AND PLANO.

    I'VE JUST HEARD SOME RESIDENT CONCERNS ABOUT, WELL, WHAT ARE APARTMENTS GOING TO DO TO PROPERTY VALUES? AND AGAIN, THIS IS US CENSUS DATA.

    AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS HIGH PERCENTAGES OF APARTMENTS, OTHER NON OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING, BUT VERY STRONG, YOU KNOW, 350, $360,000.

    MEDIAN HOME PRICES.

    AND AGAIN, TOO MANY APARTMENTS.

    RESPECTFULLY, I DISAGREE.

    CLASS-A APARTMENT VACANCY IN PRINCETON IS 3.2% UNDERWRITING.

    5% VACANCY.

    SO 95% OCCUPANCY.

    THIS IS ONE OF THE NEWER ONES.

    THAT'S CLASS A AND AGAIN, IT'S 3.2% IS WHAT THEY HAVE.

    AND THAT IS WHAT I CALL STRUCTURAL VACANCY.

    YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE 100% OCCUPIED.

    PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS MOVING IN AND MOVING OUT.

    SO THIS THING IS, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, FULL.

    I'VE HEARD CONCERNS THAT THE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS ARE ONLY A POSSIBILITY.

    AGAIN, I WOULD CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO EXHIBIT D IN THE PROPOSED PACKET THIS EVENING IN THE LAND USE REGULATIONS.

    I THINK THAT'S SELF-EVIDENT THAT THIS IS NOT A POSSIBILITY, BUT IT'S A GUARANTEE.

    THERE'S CONCERN THAT YOU SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THE FIRST THING TO THE TABLE, BUT THESE ARE RENDERINGS SPECIFIC TO THIS PROPERTY.

    THE FIRST THING TO THE TABLE AND PD 30, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL.

    THIS VIEW IS FROM US 380, KIND OF LOOKING NORTH INTO THE EAST.

    YOU CAN SEE THE RETAIL, THE RESTAURANTS LINING 380 AND THE MULTIFAMILY IN THE BACKGROUND.

    AND HERE'S AN ALTERNATE ANGLE OF THAT.

    DON'T GIVE UP THE COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL.

    I THINK THIS IS A BIG ONE.

    I THINK THERE'S HIGH HOPES AND ASPIRATIONS FOR REGION SERVING, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BIG BOX MULTI-TENANT CENTERS.

    UNFORTUNATELY, THESE ARE LOCATED AT HIGH VOLUME INTERSECTIONS.

    AND I'LL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE NOW OF WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE.

    THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. THIS IS US 380 AND HARDIN BOULEVARD FURTHER WEST OF HERE.

    THIS IS POINTED TO AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT COULD BE DONE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE IN PRINCETON AT TRACTOR SUPPLY CO.

    AND AGAIN, HERE'S THAT SUBJECT PROPERTY.

    UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A FEW KEY DIFFERENCES.

    THIS IS TEXT DATA FROM THEIR STATEWIDE PLANNING MAP, WHICH YOU'LL NOTICE IS GREAT ACCESS, BOTH NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST WEST.

    THERE'S 53,000 VEHICLES PER DAY, EAST WEST ON 380 AND ON HARDENED, THERE'S 14,000 VEHICLES.

    SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE IN PRINCETON, 37,000 VEHICLES PER DAY, EAST WEST, 168 VEHICLES NORTH SOUTH.

    THAT WILL NOT CHANGE.

    SOUTH FOREST GROVE IS A RESIDENTIAL CONNECTOR STREET.

    IT IS A TWO LANE ROAD.

    IT WILL ALWAYS BE A TWO LANE ROAD.

    AND SO FROM A RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL PERSPECTIVE, THAT REALLY LIMITS YOUR OPTIONS.

    THIS IS NOT A HIGH VOLUME INTERSECTION.

    IT IS A HIGH VOLUME US 380 MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT INTERSECTS WITH THE RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR STREET.

    YOU ALSO NOTICE THAT IT HARDENED IN 380.

    THERE'S A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

    THERE IS NOT A SUBJECT PROPERTY.

    I'VE REQUESTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS FROM TEX-DOT NO LESS THAN THREE TIMES.

    I'VE BEEN DENIED EACH TIME.

    THIS IS PUBLIC INFORMATION.

    BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT YOU GO THROUGH AS A DEVELOPER OR ANOTHER VESTED INTERESTED PARTY.

    IF YOU'D LIKE TO REQUEST A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, TEX-DOT WILL UNDERTAKE AN ENGINEERING STUDY TO DETERMINE IF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS WARRANTED OR NOT.

    AGAIN, I'VE REQUESTED THAT STUDY.

    THAT STUDY HAS BEEN PERFORMED THREE TIMES.

    THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL HAS BEEN DENIED THREE TIMES.

    AND YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM HERE, QUOTE THERE'S IF THE PROPOSED MAY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF RIGHT ANGLE CRASHES, BUT MAY ACTUALLY INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CRASHES, PARTICULARLY REAR END COLLISIONS.

    AND THAT IS A CONCERN.

    TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION RESTS WITHIN TXDOT SAFETY DIVISION AND TEX-DOT HAS EXPRESSED SAFETY CONCERNS AT THIS INTERSECTION.

    YOU KNOW, HISTORY HAS A WAY OF REPEATING ITSELF AND THERE ARE CERTAINLY PATTERNS TO DEVELOPMENT.

    AND SO I KNOW FOLKS ARE HESITANT TO GIVE UP PRIME RETAIL COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES ALONG 380.

    WHAT I WOULD SAY IS LET'S TAKE A TOUR AROUND DFW AND LOOK AT TRACTOR SUPPLY CO AND WHAT'S DEVELOPED AROUND THIS IS IN WYLIE, TEXAS.

    [00:20:04]

    YOU CAN SEE TACO BELL, VALERO GAS STATION, CIRCLE, K, WENDY'S.

    YOU HAVE A BANK, A QUICK CAR, A DRY CLEANER, AND A DAVITA DIALYSIS CENTER.

    AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THESE TYPES OF RETAIL USES, BUT WHAT I AM HEARING IS THAT THIS TYPE OF RETAIL USE IS SATURATED.

    THE PRINCETON MARKET AND THIS TYPE OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT DESIRED.

    TRACTOR SUPPLY IN MESQUITE.

    AGAIN, TWO GAS STATIONS, A 7-ELEVEN, WHICH I KNOW PRINCETON ALREADY HAS TWO OF A WAFFLE HOUSE, MCDONALD'S, ARBY'S, WENDY'S, LA QUINTA BUDGET MOTEL, A TACO CABANA AND A DENNY'S.

    AGAIN, I'VE EATEN IN MOST OF THESE PLACES.

    IT'S GREAT, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED, BOTH FROM THE COMMISSION COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS THAT DRIVE THRUS AND QUICK SERVICE IS THE TYPE OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY DESIRE.

    TRACTOR SUPPLY IN GREENVILLE, TEXAS, SAME THING.

    YOU HAVE A VAPE SMOKE SHOP, LIQUOR STORE, EXPRESS SIGNS, SELF STORAGE.

    YOU DO HAVE A MEXICAN RESTAURANT, A GAS STATION, A WINGS TO GO, A SPIRIT HALLOWEEN, WHICH, BY THE WAY, SPIRIT HALLOWEEN TELLS ME THAT'S A VACANT BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S SEASONAL. I'VE LEASED INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE SPACE TO SPIRIT HALLOWEEN, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.

    ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS, THEY'RE ON A 60 DAY LEASE FOR THE HALLOWEEN HOLIDAY.

    AND THEN THAT THAT SPACE GOES BACK TO BEING VACANT.

    AND FINALLY, ROYSE CITY AGAIN, YOU SEE THE TRACTOR SUPPLY TO NAIL SALONS.

    AGAIN, ANOTHER CBD KIND OF VAPE SHOP.

    YOU DO HAVE A STARBUCKS WINGSTOP, YOU HAVE A WALMART, WHATABURGER, PAPA JOHN'S A TACO BUENO.

    SO AGAIN, THERE'S PATTERNS OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE'S A TRACTOR SUPPLY, THERE'S TYPICALLY A WALMART, A HOME DEPOT.

    THERE'S A LOT OF QUICK SERVICE, FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS.

    AND I'VE HEARD CONSISTENTLY BOTH FROM THIS COMMISSION COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS, THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANY MORE OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

    WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ASK OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

    DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMITMENTS FOR THE RESTAURANTS YET? MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'D BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU LET THE PUBLIC MAKE THEIR COMMENTS AND THEN YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN PROCEED WITH ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

    WE'LL GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

    THE PODIUM IS NOW OPEN.

    PODIUM IS NOW OPEN FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

    GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

    OPEN FORUM FOR THIS EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR EACH OF YOUR SERVICE AND VOLUNTEER WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.

    IF I HAD CONTROL OF THE SLIDES, I WOULD TAKE YOU BACK THROUGH ALL THE TRACTOR SUPPLY SLIDES AND SHOW YOU JUST HOW MANY OF THOSE HAD APARTMENTS AND FOUR SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS NEXT TO THEM. NOT ONE OF THEM.

    THEY DID HAVE SOME BIG BOX STORES NEXT TO IT.

    AS HE ADMITTED, WALMART, HOME DEPOT, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

    SO WE'RE KIND OF TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTH HERE.

    THE OTHER THING I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT OR FACTUAL IS THAT NO APARTMENTS ARE EVER AT 100%.

    I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, MY WIFE IS AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND MANAGES A MULTIFAMILY CENTER OR COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE 100% AND ON A TWO YEAR WAITING LIST.

    SO I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT APARTMENTS CAN BE AND ARE TYPICALLY AT A 100% OR MORE.

    THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS IF YOU LISTEN TO THIS, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF MISINFORMATION, STRAIGHT OUT LIES AND ATTACKS ON THE CITY, ON CITIZENS.

    AND IT'S JUST SO FRUSTRATING.

    I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE HERE STILL THREE YEARS LATER, HAVING THIS SAME CONVERSATION.

    AND I GET IT. I'M IN SALES.

    I GET THE TENACITY.

    I CAN APPRECIATE THE TENACITY.

    BUT LET ME TELL YOU, WHAT MAKES YOU SUCCESSFUL IN SALES IS LISTENING TO THE CUSTOMER AND DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CUSTOMER.

    PRINCETON IN THIS CASE IS THE CUSTOMER.

    THIS DEVELOPER SIMPLY IS NOT LISTENING TO US.

    IN FACT, HE'S NEVER MET WITH US.

    HE'S HAD ONE FAILED ATTEMPT AT REACHING OUT TO US ON A SUNDAY BEFORE A HOLIDAY, JUST DAYS BEFORE WHEN WE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO MEET WITH HIM.

    AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

    BUT I'M NOT GOING TO USE MY WHOLE THREE MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THAT.

    INSTEAD, WHAT I WILL TALK ABOUT IS SOME OF THE POSITIVE OF THIS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE COMMUNITY THAT OUR COMMUNITY PUT TOGETHER HAS ALREADY LAID THIS OUT AND HAS MADE THE DECISION FOR THIS TO BE COMMERCIAL AND IT SHOULD STAY COMMERCIAL.

    THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE COME UP AND SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AND EVEN ONLINE ALL SUPPORT THAT.

    THIS STAYING COMMERCIAL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL, HAVE ALREADY MADE THE DECISION ON MULTIPLE INSTANCES TO VOTE NO ON THIS.

    WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?

    [00:25:01]

    WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME CONTINUING TO GO BACK TO THIS.

    I'LL GIVE YOU THE ANSWER TO THAT.

    IT'S BECAUSE HE'S NOT LISTENING.

    HE'S NOT REACHED OUT. HE'S DONE STUDIES OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY, BUT HAS YET TO DO A STUDY OR MEET WITH ANYBODY INSIDE THE COMMUNITY.

    SO WHY ARE WE HERE? WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR YOUR CUSTOMER? IT'S US.

    AND THAT'S SIMPLY ANSWERED BECAUSE YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT LINING YOUR OWN POCKETS.

    OUR CONCERNS HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.

    THE LOT IS SUITABLE FOR STRONG COMMERCIAL.

    WE'VE GIVEN PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OF THAT.

    THE DEVELOPER IS NOT COMMITTED TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

    HE'S WORRIED ABOUT THE APARTMENTS AND THEN HE'S GONE.

    WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN OTHER AREAS.

    THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE APARTMENT'S GOING TO BRING THAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

    NOT EVEN THE DOG PARK IS OPEN FOR COMMUNITY USE.

    THANK YOU. THANKS.

    CLINTON, LAWRENCE 1304 EAST COLLEGE.

    I COME BEFORE THIS BOARD TODAY TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE POSSIBLE ZONING CHANGE THAT WOULD ALLOW A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSIDERED ON US HIGHWAY FRONTAGE PROPERTY. HIGHWAY FRONTAGE SHOULD BE RESERVED EXCLUSIVELY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD.

    THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED FOR EXCLUSIVE COMMERCIAL AND THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD REMAIN.

    THE CONSENSUS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS ENOUGH WITH THE APARTMENTS ALREADY.

    THERE'S NOT ENOUGH THOROUGHFARE INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR AREA TO SUPPORT THE POPULATION DENSITY.

    THESE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS ARE TRYING TO FORCE ON US.

    THE CITY OF PRINCETON DOES NOT HAVE VERY MUCH C-1 ZONING, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT AND DON'T SCREW THIS UP.

    THANK YOU.

    HI, MY NAME IS MELISSA NED AT 2137 SHADY GLEN TRAIL.

    I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN OR PREPARED FOR YOU GUYS EXCEPT I JUST COME AS A NEIGHBOR, NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR.

    WHEN I HEARD ABOUT APARTMENTS BEING PROPOSED AGAIN IN THE SAME SPOT THAT WAS SHUT DOWN TWICE, I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS AGAIN? UM, SO I COME SPEAKING ON MANY OTHERS AS WELL.

    WE DON'T WANT TO SEE APARTMENTS THERE FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT WERE OUTLINED TWICE BEFORE.

    IT SHOULD DEFINITELY STAY COMMERCIAL.

    WE JUST NEED TO BE PATIENT.

    PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO PRINCETON AND WE'RE GOING TO GROW.

    THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP.

    SO ALL THOSE BIG BUSINESSES THAT WERE LOOKING TO PUT THERE, THOSE ARE GOING TO COME.

    AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, JUST TO THROW THIS OUT THERE ONE MORE TIME, OUR KIDS STILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO HERE.

    LIKE, WOULDN'T IT BE COOL IF ON 380 WE HAD SOME ATTRACTIONS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, URBAN AIR.

    I HAVE TWO BOYS.

    THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT SPOT AND THINK IT'S COOL.

    STILL BY THE TIME WE ACTUALLY GET THAT.

    BUT I GOT AN EIGHT YEAR OLD TOO.

    WELL, A CHEEKY MONKEY.

    I DON'T KNOW. SOMETHING FOR US TO DO.

    THERE'S LITERALLY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR ANY OF US TO DO HERE EXCEPT GO SHOPPING FOR FOOD, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT WOULD BE A LOT OF FUN IF WE COULD GET NOT ONLY SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS THERE, BUT THEN THE POTENTIAL OF THOSE FUN ATTRACTIONS.

    SO PLEASE KEEP IT COMMERCIAL.

    THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

    GOOD EVENING. GLENN BORCHERDT AT 177 TANGLEWOOD DRAW.

    PRINCETON. MY THIRD TIME IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE ON THIS ISSUE.

    AND I THINK ONCE AGAIN, WE LOOK AT A VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY HERE IN PRINCETON VALUABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND VALUABLE FOR THE CITY AND VALUABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS HERE.

    THAT PROPERTY NEEDS TO STAY COMMERCIAL IN ITS ZONING.

    IT'S A VERY BIG LOT.

    I THINK 27 ACRES, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY.

    OKAY. I THINK EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS BIG BOX RETAIL, MULTI BOX STRIP CENTERS WHERE YOU HAVE SEVERAL BIG BOX LOCATIONS ON THERE.

    CERTAINLY DEVELOPMENT OF SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, SUPERMARKET, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S HAPPENING COULD HAPPEN THERE.

    AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE PLANNING AND THE COMMITTEE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS GROWTH, AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL GROWTH GOES, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT THAT'S HAPPENING JUST OFF OF OF MONTE CARLO.

    WHERE ARE THEY SHOPPING? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO SHOP?

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    AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF IS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN AFFORD TO GIVE UP THIS LAND AND HAVE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO DRIVE TO MCKINNEY TO GO SHOPPING.

    I MEAN, THE SALES TAX REVENUE ALONE FOR THE CITY WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL IF WE KEEP THIS AS A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF LAND.

    IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL ORIGINALLY FOR A REASON, AND THAT REASON WAS THE PLANNING COMMITTEE HAD AN OVERALL VIEW OF WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

    THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS THERE AND YOU RECOGNIZED OR THE CITY RECOGNIZED THAT THAT LAND WAS A VALUABLE PIECE OF REAL ESTATE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE.

    WE LOOKED AT DEPARTMENT GROWTH IN THE CITY.

    IT'S THERE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT CAUTIOUSLY BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE APARTMENTS NEXT TO WALMART HAVE KIND OF SHUT DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT WHILE THE BUILDER GETS THEMSELVES ALIGNED.

    BUT REGARDLESS, THERE'S APARTMENTS BEING BUILT.

    THERE'S THE SICILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN.

    THAT'S A LOT OF MULTI USE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS HAPPENING THERE.

    SO THERE'S SPACE HERE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE.

    LET'S KEEP THAT PROPERTY AS COMMERCIAL.

    THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

    GOOD EVENING. MATTHEW CHROME 126 BRIARGROVE DRIVE, PRINCETON, TEXAS.

    I DO BACK RIGHT UP TO THIS PROPERTY AGAIN.

    THAT'S UP FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

    HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO CHANGE THIS.

    I'LL PROBABLY SPEAK ON MOST PEOPLE'S BEHALF AND SAY THAT, LOOK, WE'RE OKAY WITH APARTMENTS, BUT NOT IN THIS SPOT.

    THERE'S OTHER APARTMENTS COMING UP THIS EVENING AND EVEN A SLIGHT MODIFICATION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

    I'M PRETTY SURE WE'LL GET ACCEPTED BECAUSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING IN FRONT OF IT OR NEAR IT.

    WHAT I DO DISAGREE WITH IS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HE SAID THIS EVENING.

    HE SAYS HE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY.

    YOU CAN'T DO A TRAFFIC STUDY WHEN SIMPSON ROAD WAS BEING REMODIFIED FROM LOWERY CROSSING.

    KEEP IN MIND, Y'ALL DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S NOT BEING FED TO Y'ALL.

    BUT LARRY CROSSINGS ALREADY PUT ONE IN.

    THAT DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY COMMUNICATED WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS ALREADY BASICALLY TOLD US THAT HE'S PUTTING IN A TRAFFIC STUDY THE DAY HE OPENS IT BECAUSE HE WANTS A TRAFFIC LIGHT, KNOWING THE AMOUNT OF HOMES OFF OF SIMPSON ARE GOING TO NEED IT.

    WELL, WHAT DOES THAT DO DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM HIS PROPERTY? IT REALIGNS HIS ENTIRE PROPERTY.

    WHAT THAT DOES IS IT BRINGS HIS ENTIRE ENTRANCE TO A DIFFERENT POINT.

    IT BRINGS HIS EXIT TO A DIFFERENT POINT, WHICH MEANS HE CAN NO LONGER LAY OUT WHAT HE CURRENTLY IS BRINGING TO YOU AS A CONCEPT.

    THAT'S ONE THING.

    ANOTHER THING IS, RECENTLY, AT A LOCAL EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE HERE, WE HAD SEVERAL BIG DEVELOPERS THAT STEPPED FOOT IN AND I'LL LEAVE THEM ANONYMOUS.

    BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THOSE DEVELOPERS ARE HERE IN PRINCETON RIGHT NOW, ALREADY DEVELOPING CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL LAND WITH NO APARTMENTS ON THEM.

    THEY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THAT SPOT.

    HOWEVER, THEY KNOW IT'S TIED UP FOR THREE YEARS.

    THAT SHOULD BE A CLUE TO YOU THAT WAIT A MINUTE, THAT WE KNOW THAT THESE BIG DEVELOPERS WANT THAT INTERSECTION, BUT THEY KNOW IT'S BEEN TIED UP AND IT'S BECAUSE HE DOESN'T GO AFTER THOSE. HE DOESN'T WORK WITH THOSE GROUPS TO TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR HIM.

    I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT, YES, THERE IS NO APARTMENTS OR BIG BOX STORES AROUND.

    MOST OF WHAT HE'S BEEN SHOWING OFF A TRACTOR SUPPLIES.

    THAT BUILDING MAY NOT EVER STAY A TRACTOR SUPPLY.

    IT COULD EVENTUALLY GO OUT OF BUSINESS AND THEN IT COULD BE CHANGED TO SOMETHING ELSE, JUST LIKE ANY OF THESE OTHER RETAILERS THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY, BEST BUY, CIRCUIT CITIES, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT'S FAILED OVER THE TIMES TARGETS.

    ANYTHING CAN GO OUT OVERNIGHT.

    OF COURSE, THAT LEAVES A GIANT SPACE IN ANY COMMERCIAL SPACE, BUT IT ALLOWS ANOTHER BUSINESS TO COME ON.

    SO THOSE ARE HUGE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE KEPT IN MIND.

    APARTMENTS ALL DAY, JUST NOT IN THIS SPOT.

    COMMERCIAL ABSOLUTELY.

    IF YOU DO DECIDE TO GO THIS ROUTE, DO NOT ALLOW VARIANCES AT ALL TO THE CURRENT ZONING IN PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL PARKING.

    THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE REASON WE DO NOT HAVE BIG RETAIL HERE RIGHT NOW.

    WE DO NOT HAVE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.

    WHY? BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GET ENOUGH COMMERCIAL PARKING TO MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE FRANCHISE BRAND THAT SAYS I NEED A PARKING SPACE, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKING CLIENTS TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BRAND HERE.

    BUT THIS PARKING LOT NO LONGER HAS IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE.

    IT WASN'T DEVELOPED THAT WAY.

    THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT GETTING SOME OF THESE BRANDS THAT ARE OUT HERE CURRENTLY.

    AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AT SOME OF THESE PRIVATE MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF HERE, THAT THESE DEVELOPERS WANT TO BRING SOMETHING, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY CAN'T FIND A WAY TO SQUEEZE IT INTO A CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY BECAUSE WE'VE UNFORTUNATELY MADE THEM A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT TOOK OUT JUST ENOUGH VARIANCES FOR THAT PARKING.

    SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU.

    THANK YOU.

    GOOD EVENING, NIKKI. FROM 1 TO 6.

    BEFORE I KIND OF GET INTO THE POINTS, YOU KNOW, I WISH I HAD 20 MINUTES IN A POWERPOINT BECAUSE I COULD MAKE A REALLY COMPELLING ARGUMENT AS WELL.

    MY FIRST CONCERN IS THAT THIS HEARING MAY BE HELD INAPPROPRIATELY DUE TO YOUR OWN CITY ORDINANCES PRINTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS STATE LAW.

    WRITTEN NOTICE IS REQUIRED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THIS PROPERTY.

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    NO ONE ALONG BRIARGROVE HAS RECEIVED SUCH NOTICE.

    AGAIN, THIS IS THE SAME PROBLEM THAT WE HAD THE FIRST TIME THIS CAME UP.

    I APOLOGIZE THAT WE'RE HERE THREE YEARS LATER, HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION, LOOKING AT THE SAME PLAN WITH NOTHING CHANGED AND WE'RE JUST MAKING DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS.

    I JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF FACTS AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN CAN CONTINUE WITH THAT AND MAKE SOME EDUCATED DECISIONS.

    KNOW, I DID A POLL ONLINE.

    DO YOU THINK THE CITY OF PRINCETON NEEDS MORE APARTMENTS OUT OF 947 VOTES? 917 PEOPLE SAID NO.

    JUST OFF OF LONG NECK AND MONTE CARLO.

    THERE ARE FIVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR A TOTAL OF 3702 UNITS.

    YES, APARTMENTS ARE NEEDED.

    YES, APARTMENTS ARE VERY VALUABLE REAL ESTATE, BUT THEY HAVE A PLACE AND A TIME AND THEY'RE COMING.

    WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR THOSE TO BE BUILT.

    THIS IS COMMERCIAL ZONED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

    IT EVEN SAYS PLACE, PLACE TYPE REPRESENTS REGION SERVING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CHARACTERIZED BY BIG BOX STORES AND MULTI-TENANT WITHIN OR AROUND APARTMENTS MAY BE APPROPRIATE.

    75% PRIMARY USE OF APARTMENTS.

    THAT'S NOT CLEARLY OUTLINED, JUST SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.

    THIS IS A 24 ACRE TRACT OF LAND AT HOME, 54TH STREET, GLORIOUS LA MADELEINE'S AND ORANGE THEORY THAT WAS SHOWN IN THE PRIOR PRESENTATION IS ON 14 ACRES.

    YEAH, THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY A LIGHT THERE TODAY.

    OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A CONTENTION.

    WHETHER IT CAN BE OR CAN'T BE LIKE MATT TOUCHED ON SIMPSON ROAD IS GOING TO REALIGN TO TEX-DOT.

    HE'S NOT GOING TO GET A CUT THROUGH WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY PLANNED.

    THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AND YOU KNOW, IN THREE YEARS, IF THERE ARE SO MANY CONCERNS AND SO MANY VOICES, WHY HAVEN'T THE COMMUNITY AROUND BEEN REACHED OUT TO? LIKE JEFF TOUCHED ON, THERE WAS ONE ATTEMPT MADE ON A SUNDAY BEFORE A HOLIDAY WEEKEND WANTING TO MEET LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE A HEARING.

    THAT WAS THE ONE AND ONLY TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN CONTACTED.

    SO THERE'S JUST A LOT GOING ON RIGHT HERE.

    AND I, I HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE DOWN THE SAME PATH.

    THIS HAS BEEN DENIED BY COUNCIL TWICE.

    AT THIS POINT, IT'S WASTING TAXPAYERS TIME.

    IT'S WASTING YOUR GUYS'S TIME TO LOOK AT THE SAME PLAN OVER AND OVER WITH NO MAJOR CHANGES.

    I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND GOOD LUCK TONIGHT.

    THANK YOU, NIKKI.

    JOHN KUSTERBECK 103 FOREST GROVE.

    LIVE RIGHT ON.

    ACTUALLY, YOU CAN ALMOST SEE MY HOUSE ON THERE.

    SO AGAIN, I'M STILL FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

    IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO A NICE RESTAURANT FROM MY HOUSE AT NIGHT.

    THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS SAID, LIKE HE DOESN'T LISTEN TO THE CUSTOMER.

    WELL, HOW MANY TIMES IN THE PAST DID HE CHANGE HIS PLANS TO SUIT ALL THEIR GRIEVANCES? SO, YEAH, I'M STILL FOR IT.

    I'M GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONE, WHICH IS FINE.

    ANOTHER THING, SATURDAY THE 24TH, WE'RE HAVING OUR THIRD ANNUAL PRIDE EVENT COME OUT.

    IT'LL BE GREAT. IT'S BEEN ACTUALLY MOVED TO LOVELADY, SO 12 TO 4 COME OUT.

    THANK YOU, JOHN.

    ANYONE ELSE.

    OKAY. WE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY COMMENT? I'D RECOMMEND YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND THEN YOU ALL CAN HAVE DISCUSSION.

    RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 642.

    OKAY. SO I WILL TRY TO ADDRESS AS MANY OF THOSE CONCERNS AS I CAN.

    I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO STAFF ON SEVERAL ITEMS. CRAIG WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ITEM OF PROPER NOTIFICATION? PROPER NOTIFICATION HAS BEEN GIVEN OUT.

    WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE.

    SO THANK YOU.

    AND I AM IN RECEIPT OF AN EMAIL FROM EARLIER TODAY FROM CRAIG FISHER CONFIRMING THAT THE CITY SECRETARY DID SEND OUT NOTICES ON JUNE 9TH AND IT WAS

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    PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER.

    AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN REFERENCE THAT THIS HAS BEEN DENIED TWICE BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BY YOU ALL.

    THAT IS TRUE. THE FIRST TIME IT WAS DENIED.

    THAT WAS COMMISSIONER RIBERA WHO SAT ON THE COMMISSION.

    AT THAT TIME, HE RECOMMENDED DENIAL BECAUSE OF A QUESTION AROUND PROPER NOTIFICATION, AS WAS THE CASE BACK THEN, PROPER NOTICE WAS GIVEN FOR THIS HEARING.

    IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THAT IT WAS DENIED TWO YEARS AGO.

    IT HAS NOT BEEN THREE YEARS.

    IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.

    BUT WE'RE SEEING A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR OF A PROPER NOTICE WAS GIVEN.

    I'D ALSO DEFER TO CITY STAFF ON COMPLIANCE WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

    I BELIEVE IN THE REPORT THEY INDICATE THAT IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE.

    IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

    THANK YOU. THERE'S A WAY TO SHOW MY SCREEN.

    CRAIG.

    SO TO MISS CRUM'S POINT, THERE WAS A POLL ON FACEBOOK.

    DO YOU THINK THE CITY OF PRINCETON NEEDS MORE APARTMENTS ALONG 380? YOU CAN SEE IT'S OVERWHELMINGLY NO.

    WHAT WAS OMITTED WAS MY OUTREACH TO BOTH COORDINATE WITH THE HOA AND CONFIRM DATA.

    YOU KNOW, MISREPRESENTATIONS CAN SKEW PERCEPTION.

    I REACHED OUT TWICE LAST YEAR.

    MISS CROW MADE THE STATEMENT THAT THERE WAS 7104 TOTAL MULTIFAMILY UNITS, OF WHICH 5544 UNITS WERE LOCATED WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

    BASED ON MY DATA, IT WAS 40% OF THAT 2440 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

    THAT'S BASED ON THE PRINCETON SUBDIVISION MAP AS DOWNLOADED FROM THE CITY WEBSITE AND BASED ON REVIEW OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS.

    AND AGAIN, I FOLLOWED UP TO SEE WHAT THE CITY WAS MISSING AND WHAT I WAS MISSING.

    AGAIN, IMPROPER AND INACCURATE INFORMATION LEADS TO INACCURATE RESULTS AND SKEWED PERCEPTIONS.

    I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BE PATIENT.

    I THINK IF THERE WAS A PATHWAY FORWARD FOR THIS PROPERTY AS A COMMERCIAL USE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING.

    UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE CERTAIN CHARACTERISTICS THAT CANNOT CHANGE, FIRST OF WHICH IS YOU HAVE A 3.1 ACRE PROPERTY, THE TRACTOR SUPPLY COMPANY THAT CHOPS UP THIS SITE, AS WELL AS DETENTION ON THE REMAINING ACREAGE TO THE EAST.

    THE OTHER FACTOR, AGAIN, WE MAKE THESE COMPARISONS TO HARDEN IN 380, ITS NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST WEST ACCESS 53 VEHICLES, 53,000 VEHICLES PER DAY, EAST WEST, 14,000 VEHICLES NORTH SOUTH.

    AGAIN, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, 168 VEHICLES THAT CANNOT AND WILL NOT CHANGE THAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.

    AND SO THIS IS A VERY CHALLENGED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

    COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS OWN THIS PROPERTY.

    THEY HAVE FOR 15 YEARS, AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THEY HAVE GIVEN UP.

    AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT FOR ME TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY CONTINGENT UPON MULTIFAMILY ZONING.

    THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTARY ON INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY.

    THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN LISTED FOR 9 TO 10 MONTHS AFTER THE UNSUCCESSFUL P AND Z HEARING LAST YEAR IN CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I DID LIST THE PROPERTY FOR SALE. THERE WAS NO PRICE ATTACHED TO IT.

    THE ONLY REQUIREMENT WAS THAT IT WAS FOR C-1 USERS THAT COULD DEVELOP OR PURCHASE THE PROPERTY BY RIGHT.

    THERE WERE ZERO OFFERS, ZERO LETTERS OF INTENT AND NO SIGNIFICANT INTEREST.

    SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THE UNDISCLOSED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS ARE THAT ARE INTERESTED, BUT THEY HAVE NOT SHOWN INTEREST TO ME IN THE BROKER THAT WERE ENGAGED TO SELL THIS PROPERTY OVER A 9 TO 10 MONTH PERIOD.

    UM, HAPPY TO MAKE DUE DILIGENCE AVAILABLE.

    A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS PERFORMED BY PACHECO COKE.

    I'M NOT SURE THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE TIRE, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST TEXTILE DATA FOR TRAFFIC COUNTS.

    THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT THIS WAS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL TWICE.

    AGAIN, THIS HAS GONE TO CITY COUNCIL ONE TIME.

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    IT'S BEEN THROUGH PNC SEVERAL TIMES.

    IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED TWICE AND DENIED TWICE, ONE OF WHICH WAS MOST UNFORTUNATE DUE TO A CLAIM THAT THERE WAS IMPROPER NOTICE THAT WAS PROVEN FALSE. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THE RESIDENT CONCERNS.

    IF I MISSED SOMETHING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR IF THE COMMISSION HAS QUESTIONS.

    HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

    FOR THE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.

    DID YOU HAVE ANY NAMES OR CURRENT INTENT ON THAT PARTICULAR PART? NOT AT THIS TIME, NO, MA'AM.

    YEAH, MY CONCERN WAS, FIRST, LET ME STATE I'M NOT A FAN OF APARTMENTS.

    I'M NOT FOR, BUT I'M ALSO NOT AGAINST.

    I UNDERSTAND THE THE NEED FOR IT AND I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES AND DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY.

    THE THING I'M CONCERNED WITH NOW IS THAT THERE'S NOT A VARIANCE OR ANY REGULATIONS REGARDING THE SECURITY OR SECURITY IN THE PERIMETER OF THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX.

    I THINK THE PARKING IS A CONCERN.

    I THINK HAVING THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AS WELL AS THE RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP.

    AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE IN A CONCEPTUAL PHASE AS FAR AS THAT RESTAURANT OR RETAIL KIND OF OVERFLOWING AND INTERMINGLING IN WITH THE APARTMENTS.

    I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF SECURITY GATE.

    I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE KEY FOB FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT HAVING A SECURITY AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER I THINK WOULD BE KEY JUST TO PROTECT THOSE RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENT AS WELL AS MAKE SURE WE KIND OF SEPARATE, AS I SAID, THE PARKING FROM THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.

    YES, SIR. I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.

    YES, SIR. AND THAT'S REQUIRED BY CITY OF PRINCETON ZONING ORDINANCE.

    THERE IS A PERIMETER PERIMETER FENCE REQUIRED BOTH ON THE NORTH, EAST, WEST AND AS WELL AS TWO SEPARATE USES BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND A MULTIFAMILY USE.

    AS MY UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN, I'LL DEFER TO CITY STAFF TO CONFIRM, BUT THAT'S IT IS A REQUIREMENT AND I'M HAPPY TO WRITE THAT IN EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE REDUNDANT INTO THE LAND USE THAT THERE WILL BE A PERIMETER FENCE AROUND THE ENTIRETY OF THE MULTIFAMILY AND THERE WILL BE A VEHICULAR ACCESS GATE WITH ACCESS CONTROL.

    I WOULD DO THAT AS A STANDARD.

    ANYWAYS, ONE THING TO COMMENT ON, AND THIS IS IN THE LAND USE OR RESTRICTIONS OR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THERE IS A PARKING REDUCTION BEING REQUESTED FOR THE MULTIFAMILY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN PRINCETON.

    IT EXPLICITLY STATES THAT PARKING REDUCTION SHALL NOT APPLY TO THE COMMERCIAL.

    SO THE RESIDENT CONCERN EARLIER THAT THAT IS DETERRING COMMERCIAL USERS, NOT ENOUGH PARKING, THAT WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE ON THIS PROPOSED PD.

    AND I WANTED TO MENTION, I KNOW ON PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS FROM YOU THAT THERE WAS LANGUAGE AND I'M LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS NO BUILDING PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED FOR AN TO USE UNLESS BUILDING PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR FOR SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS THAT TOTAL A MINIMUM OF 15,000FT² AND NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WILL BE ISSUED FOR AN MF2 USE UNLESS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR FOR SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS THAT TOTAL A MINIMUM OF 15,000FT².

    AND I NOTICED THAT THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL.

    SO I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IF THERE ARE ANY MOTIONS TO.

    TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL THAT WE DO THAT WITH THE CONDITION WITH THESE CONDITIONS FROM PREVIOUS PROPOSALS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU.

    ARE OKAY WITH.

    YES. AND I WOULD MAKE THE REQUEST THAT WE I THINK THAT LANGUAGE IS CERTAINLY ACCEPTABLE TO ME.

    I'M WILLING TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.

    AGAIN, THIS IS MORE OF A TIMING THING, AS LAST TIME I HAD SOME RETAIL CONCEPTS IN TOW THAT UNFORTUNATELY NON FAVORABLE OUTCOME WITH THE REZONING REQUEST, THE TOTAL YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL KIND OF RESTAURANT SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE JUST UNDER 24,000FT².

    SO I WOULD PROPOSE MAYBE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THAT, MAYBE THAT'S 50, 50% OR SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS SITE PLAN HAS BEEN REWORKED. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THAT WOULD BE MAYBE TWO OF THE FOUR RESTAURANTS, 50% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

    AND THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS THAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS GOING TO GO IN AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE TEN YEARS AND THERE'S GOING

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    TO BE NO RESTAURANTS THERE.

    AND WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET RIGHT IN FRONT OF WHERE I LIVE, GOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND A 7-ELEVEN AND AN OIL CHANGE PLACE.

    AND NONE OF THE RETAIL THAT WAS, QUOTE UNQUOTE, PROMISED SEVEN YEARS AGO, SIX YEARS AGO.

    SO I JUST THINK AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THIS IS GOING TO GO TONIGHT.

    I DON'T I DON'T KNOW.

    I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP SO THAT IF ANYBODY WERE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA THAT IT HAD THAT CONDITION ATTACHED TO IT.

    YES, SIR. I CAN MAKE THAT COMMITMENT ON 50% OF THE RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED ON A 24,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILD OUT.

    ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR.

    MR. BROWN. I HAVE ONE THING YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING A CLASS A.

    I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY OF THAT WORDING IN.

    I THINK MY CONCERN WAS THE QUALITY OF THE ACTUAL APARTMENT THAT'S THERE, THE AMENITIES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED.

    I KNOW YOU. I SEE THAT THERE'S A POOL.

    YOU MENTIONED THE CLUBHOUSE AND GYM.

    I LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF HOLD YOU TO THAT, THAT TO YOUR PRESENTATION HERE, THAT THE ITEMS THAT SHOWN HERE WILL BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF THIS.

    SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, IF IT IS APPROVED, IF WE DECIDE TO GO THAT ROUTE.

    BUT I LIKE I LIKE THAT TO BE KIND OF CLARIFIED THE ACTUAL CLASS OF THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX.

    YES, SIR. IF AMENABLE TO THE COMMISSION, IF THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE THE COMMITMENTS BASED ON THESE RESIDENTIAL AMENITIES UP ON THE SCREEN HERE WITH THE POOL, THE OUTDOOR KITCHENS, THE GAMING AREAS, WORKSTATIONS, CONFERENCE ROOM WITHIN THE BUSINESS CENTER, ONSITE FITNESS CENTER, DOG PARK POCKET PARK, PACKAGE CONCIERGE, AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR, FINISHES TO INCLUDE GRANITE COUNTERTOPS, STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES, AS WELL AS PRIVATE GARAGES.

    HAPPY TO INCLUDE THAT.

    YEAH, IT WOULD BE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.

    REGARDLESS TO TO ADD ALL THAT LANGUAGE INTO THE INTO THE PD.

    HAVE. QUESTIONS.

    I HAVE COMMENTS. OKAY.

    ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

    THE LAST THING I HAVE IS I THINK PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE ACTUAL RESTAURANTS.

    I KNOW THIS IS CONCEPTUAL AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.

    THERE'S NO RESTAURANTS BEING DEVELOPED.

    I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, IF WE GET TO THAT CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND EDC HAVE FINAL APPROVAL ON THE RESTAURANT CONCEPTS.

    I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.

    I THINK IN GENERAL, I THINK EVERYONE'S KIND OF FEARING THAT WE PROVIDE THESE RESTAURANTS, THEY BECOME VERY SMALL RESTAURANTS.

    WE HAVE ANOTHER TACO FACTORY AND NOTHING AGAINST TACO FACTORY, BUT WE HAVE THOSE SMALL RESTAURANTS AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT FAMILY SIT DOWN, CASUAL FAMILY DINING THAT'S THERE.

    AND I THINK BEING THAT THIS IS THE GATEWAY TO WE'LL CALL A GATEWAY INTO PRINCETON, I THINK THAT'S THOSE RESTAURANTS NEED TO BE KIND OF A HIGHER IMPORTANCE IN THE RETAIL AS WELL.

    THAT'S ALL I. TO ADDRESS THAT COMMENT.

    STAFF CAN ADDRESS THAT.

    THAT LANGUAGE IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE PD REGULATIONS THAT THAT ALL RESTAURANTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS AND NO DRIVE THROUGH TYPE RESTAURANTS WILL BE ALLOWED.

    I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ON YOUR SLIDE PRESENTATION.

    YOU SHOWED HOW MANY ACRES ARE AVAILABLE ALONG 380.

    WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN? IT'S APPROXIMATELY 554 ACRES.

    I CAN BRING THAT UP.

    AND THAT EXCLUDES SOME OF THIS LAND THAT'S BEING SHOWN VACANT, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE, CLOSE TO THE LAKE THERE, CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT'S EXCLUDED.

    THERE'S A THERE'S A 21.8 ACRE PARCEL THERE THAT THE COUNTY NOW OWNS THAT'S BEING EXCLUDED.

    AND SO THESE ARE PARCELS THAT I GUESS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED, VACANT, AND THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT IN PROGRESS.

    STAFF CAN ATTEST TO THE ACCURACY OF THIS SLIDE.

    SO. I CANNOT ATTEST TO THE ACCURACY, THE ACCURACY OF THIS SLIDE.

    SO. I'M LOOKING AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE NUMBERS BACK THEN FOR

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    HIGHWAY CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL WAS 214 ACRES, AND THAT'S ROUGHLY THE SAME.

    MAP THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH YOUR SLIDE.

    OH, THIS IS JUST VACANT LAND.

    THAT WOULD INCLUDE HIGHWAY, CORRIDOR, COMMERCIAL AND OTHER USES AS YOU GO TOWARDS LAVON LAKE.

    MUCH OF THAT IS SINGLE FAMILY WITH RETAIL ALONG THE FRONTAGE.

    AND SO THERE'S 3 OR 400 ACRES AT THE VERY EAST SIDE, RIGHT UP AGAINST THE LAKE.

    BUT THAT SINGLE FAMILY, I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME TOWNHOMES, MULTI-FAMILY BEING PROPOSED AND A SIGNIFICANT RETAIL COMPONENT.

    OKAY. SO THE 214 WOULD BE THE REASONABLE NUMBER TO WORK WITH FOR HIGHWAY CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL.

    I HAVE COMMENTS. GO AHEAD.

    I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

    I JUST HAD A FEW COMMENTS.

    I APPRECIATE THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

    I THINK THAT THERE IS STILL SOME THINGS TO BE DETERMINED, BUT I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A LIGHT THERE.

    I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

    YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS DEVELOPMENT A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES.

    THE ORIGINAL DENIAL I KNOW INITIALLY WAS ABOUT THE NOTICE, BUT ALSO I HAD MENTIONED THAT IT DIDN'T DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

    AND I THINK IT STILL DOESN'T LOOKING AT OUR ORIGINAL BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WOULD GO ON A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL.

    SO I WOULD STILL STAND WITH THAT.

    I THINK THAT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY DOES HAVE POTENTIAL TO BE DEVELOPED JUST STRICTLY AS COMMERCIAL WITH RETAIL BUSINESSES AND OTHER TYPES OF ENTERTAINMENT THINGS THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.

    AND WITH OUR EDC, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING IN A DEVELOPER THAT COULD THAT COULD PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS.

    AND WE HAVE A VERY STRONG EDC BOARD UNDER GREAT LEADERSHIP AND SOME POSITIVE CHANGES COMING THERE.

    AND AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT DIRECTLY.

    SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND IN A DIRECTION WE DON'T NEED TO PURSUE RIGHT NOW.

    WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS SAME DEVELOPMENT OVER AND OVER AND AND DENIED IT, I THINK IT COULD SIT VACANT FOR A FEW MORE YEARS UNTIL WE DO GET THAT PERFECT DEVELOPER IN THIS SPOT. AND THAT'S MY OPINION.

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK, AND I CERTAINLY APOLOGIZE THAT I'M NOT THE PERFECT DEVELOPER AS AN APARTMENT DEVELOPER.

    I NEVER AM.

    BUT MADAM VICE CHAIRPERSON, IF YOU RECALL, WE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND THERE WAS SOME DOCUMENTS EXCHANGED TO THE EDC FOR A SALE FROM MYSELF TO THE EDC LAST SUMMER, AND THAT DID NOT GAIN TRACTION.

    AND SO UNDERSTANDING THAT SENTIMENT MAY HAVE CHANGED.

    I THINK THE EDC HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO AND AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY THEY PASSED ON.

    CORRECT. THAT WAS THAT WAS VOTED DOWN UNDER THE EDC BOARD WHILE I WAS CHAIR.

    THE LEADERSHIP HAS CHANGED.

    AND ALSO THE CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T REALLY SEE THINGS EYE TO EYE WITH WANTING TO DO THE CHARRETTE, WHICH WAS ALSO SEPARATE FROM THAT PURCHASE AGREEMENT.

    WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING AND I CERTAINLY CAN'T TALK TO THE EDC THOUGHTS ON THAT TONIGHT.

    BUT JUST IN GENERAL, I THINK THAT THEY CAN FIND SOMEBODY THAT WOULD COME IN TO THE CITY WITH A A PLAN THAT WOULD BE MORE TOLERABLE AND OR EVEN POPULAR TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

    THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTARY OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. I GUESS I HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION.

    YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO TO HAVE AT LEAST 50% OF THE RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL COMPLETED BEFORE YOU WOULD EITHER START OR COMPLETE THE APARTMENTS.

    THE PRIOR LANGUAGE WAS CONCURRENT, AND SO BUILDING PERMITS WOULD BE SUBMITTED FOR THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE RESTAURANTS AT THE SAME TIME.

    AND THEN TCOS AND ULTIMATELY COES WOULD BE ISSUED AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL AS WELL.

    I GUESS I'M CONCERNED WITH THE COMPLETION OF THOSE RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL.

    IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET SOME ASSURANCE THAT THE RESTAURANTS OR RETAIL WOULD TO BE BE CONSTRUCTED OR AT LEAST OCCUPIED BEFORE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX COULD BE OPENED AND OCCUPIED OR AT LEAST 50%.

    THAT'S. THAT'S MY FEELING IT.

    SORRY, COMMISSIONERS.

    Y'ALL. WELCOME TO ADDRESS IT, SIR.

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    WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING PERMITS.

    THE WAY THE LANGUAGE WAS IN IN THE PREVIOUS PROPOSALS WAS REGARDING THE BUILDING PERMITS.

    YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.

    NO BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL BEFORE YOU HAVE BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE RESTAURANTS AND ALSO CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY.

    I GUESS MY CONCERN IS WE HAVE PERMITS THAT GET PULLED AND THEN THIS GETS DELAYED.

    WE ASK FOR AN EXTENSION AND NOW WE'RE 2 OR 3 YEARS OUT OR SEVERAL YEARS OUT AFTER THE APARTMENTS ARE DONE.

    AND NOW WE'RE WAITING ON THESE RETAIL TO BE DEVELOPED.

    THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN.

    I UNDERSTAND. I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT CONCERN.

    AND THAT'S WHY ON THE PRIOR USE REGULATIONS, ITEM FIVE WAS NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WILL BE ISSUED FOR AN MF2 USE UNLESS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.

    AND AGAIN, I'M WILLING TO MAKE THAT SAME COMMITMENT THIS EVENING.

    AND SO YOUR PERMITS ARE TIED TO ADDRESS YOUR.

    I GUESS I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PULL PERMITS FOR THE APARTMENTS AND THE RETAIL SIT ON THE RETAIL PERMITS, GO TO THE ON THE APARTMENTS AND THEN JUST NEVER DEVELOP. I WOULD HAVE TO PULL THOSE PERMITS AND DEVELOP BECAUSE, AGAIN, NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WILL BE ISSUED FOR AN MF2 USE UNLESS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY HAS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE RESTAURANTS.

    SO AGAIN, THEY WOULD START TOGETHER AND NATURALLY THOSE CODES FOR THE RETAIL WOULD OCCUR PRIOR TO THE MULTIFAMILY.

    MULTIFAMILY ARE PROBABLY 15 MONTHS, TWO FIRST UNITS, 24 MONTH OVERALL CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, AND THE RETAIL WOULD BE WOULD OCCUR IN ADVANCE OF THAT 24 MONTH MARK.

    DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES.

    OKAY. THANK YOU.

    I JUST WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL'S WORDS AS WELL.

    I FEEL LIKE OUR COMMUNITY HAS PRETTY MUCH SPOKEN THAT THEY DO NOT WISH FOR THIS TO BE ANYTHING BUT COMMERCIAL AND ARE WILLING TO WAIT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.

    WE I MEAN, I DISAGREE THAT IT CONFORMS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, JUST LIKE SHERRY CAMPBELL DOES AS WELL THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMMERCIAL ALONG HIGHWAY 380 AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

    WE'VE HAD LOTS OF OTHER APARTMENTS COME THROUGH HERE AND JUST DO WHAT THEIR SHOW, THEIR COMMUNITY.

    TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM AND GET APPROVAL FROM THEIR COMMUNITY.

    SO. YEAH.

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

    AGAIN, I'D CALL YOUR ATTENTION PRIMARY LAND USE WITHIN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR.

    COMMERCIAL CATEGORIZATION IS RETAIL.

    COMMERCIAL USES APARTMENTS AND CONDOMINIUMS. AND AGAIN, I WOULD DEFER TO CITY STAFF.

    I'M GOING TO MR. BELLON.

    ANY COMMENTS? THE CHART THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT DOESN'T SHOW ANY RESIDENTIAL UNIT TYPES IN THE CHART.

    AND TO THAT END, REGARDING ANYTHING THAT'S A RENTAL UNITS, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP SAYING APARTMENTS, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF RENTAL PROPERTIES COMING TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WE STILL HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE SHAPE OF THE COTTAGE HOMES, THE THE BUILD TO RENT MANUFACTURED HOMES THAT HAVE STARTED COMING TO TOWN. SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SACRIFICE PART OF THIS PROPERTY FOR MORE RENTAL HOUSING WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF THAT COMING, COMING UP IN PRINCETON THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

    AND THIS CORRIDOR, COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR REALLY JUST NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED AND SAVED FOR BUSINESSES.

    OKAY. THANK YOU.

    ANYONE COMFORTABLE MAKING A MOTION EITHER DIRECTION.

    I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY BASED ON THIS PD NOT BEING IN COMPLIANCE OR IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND BASED ON PRIOR DISCUSSIONS AND DENIALS FROM BOTH PNC AND CITY COUNCIL.

    ALL SECOND. HAVE A MOTION.

    HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND.

    ALL IN FAVOR OF.

    [01:05:02]

    WELL, I VOTES WILL WILL BE EQUIVALENT TO THE DENIAL RECOMMENDING DENIAL.

    WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

    COMMISSIONER FORSYTH.

    HI, MR. CAMPBELL. HI. COMMISSIONER COOPER.

    NAY. COMMISSIONER BELLON.

    NAY AND I AM A NAY VOTE.

    SO THE MOTION IS NOT PASSED.

    WOULD EITHER OF YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? YEAH. I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 20220474 ZONING MAC AMENDMENT WITH WITH CONDITIONS THE PROPOSED PROPERTY APARTMENT BUILDING, PROPERTY CLASSIFICATION B CLASS A HIGH AND LUXURY AS WITH WITH AMENITIES PRESENTED IN THIS PRESENTATION AND THAT THE RESTAURANT RETAIL DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEED TO BE WOULD BE PERMITTED.

    I'M SORRY.

    WHAT ARE WE DOING? YEAH, BOTH OF THOSE.

    OKAY. THANK YOU.

    SORRY. CORRECTION.

    THAT NO BUILDING PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED FOR A MF TO USE UNLESS BUILDING PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR FOR SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS THAT THAT TOTAL A MINIMUM OF 15,000 SQUARE FOOT AND NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WILL BE ISSUED FOR AN MF DASH TWO USE UNLESS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THE FOR SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS THAT THAT TOTAL A MINIMUM OF 15,000FT².

    I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

    I'LL SECOND THAT UNDER THE SAME STIPULATIONS AND CONDITIONS.

    I DO WANT TO ALSO NOTE THAT I'VE BEEN PERSONALLY THINKING A LOT ABOUT THIS ONE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT IT AND ULTIMATELY.

    ACCORDING TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY.

    WE ARE STRICTLY RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL BASED ON CONFORMANCE TO PLAN AND ULTIMATELY WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE LONG TERM OF THE RESIDENTS.

    AND I THINK THAT FITS THAT.

    SO THAT'S WHY I WILL VOTE TO SECOND THAT ONE.

    I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

    WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

    COMMISSIONER BELLON? AYE, MR. COOPER? AYE.

    I'M IN THE EYE, COMMISSIONER.

    CAMPBELL. NAY.

    COMMISSIONER FORSYTH NAY.

    MOTION WITH CONDITIONS CARRIES 3 TO 2.

    MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

    PUBLIC HEARING. ZA 20231491 ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.

    DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM RETAIL PARTNERS MR PRINCETON LLC FOR A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 25.44 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE HEART AND RIGHT SURVEY.

    ABSTRACT NUMBER 957 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.

    THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG WEST PRINCETON DRIVE NEAR NORTH BEACH BOULEVARD.

    THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE FROM AGRICULTURE TO C-1 TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OR PD 40.

    THE INTENT OF THE PD IS TO CREATE A PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH SOME OF THE LOTS WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO BE DEVELOPED WITH EITHER C-2 OR MF TWO ZONING.

    HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, SHOWING HOW THIS PROPERTY MAY DEVELOP WITH MAJORITY BEING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, AND THEN THESE THREE TRACKS ON THE SCREEN TO THE NORTH WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO BE DEVELOPED EITHER COMMERCIAL OR WITH MULTI FAMILY USES.

    THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS AREA DESIGNATES THIS TRACT AS LIFESTYLE ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, WHICH IS DEFINED AS COMMERCIAL CENTERS THAT CONTAIN A VARIETY OF USES AND ACTIVITIES, PRIMARILY LAND USE BEING RETAIL, COMMERCIAL USES, CONDOMINIUMS, APARTMENTS AND OFFICES.

    [01:10:05]

    FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

    THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO PRESENT AND RECOMMEND TURNING TIME OVER TO THEM PRIOR TO OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

    THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

    WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 714.

    YOU SAID THE DEVELOPER IS HERE.

    YES. AND IF YOU'D LET THEM SPEAK PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED.

    SURE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

    TONY PHILLY 2525 MACKINNON RETAIL PARTNERS, LLC.

    OH, DO YOU HAVE. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? TELL HIM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT, TONY.

    OKAY. WELL, IT'S.

    IT'S 25 ACRES.

    WE HAVE A MARKET STREET, WHICH IS A GROCERY STORE COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT.

    THE FUEL CENTER, WHICH IS PART OF THE REZONING, IS OUT ON HIGHWAY 380.

    THAT'S OUR CONVENIENCE STORE.

    AND THEN THE REST OF THE PADS RUNNING ALONG.

    BEAUCHAMP AND OUR BEECHAM AND 380.

    WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE COMMITTED AT THIS POINT AS WELL.

    WE PLAN ON BREAKING GROUND JANUARY 1ST.

    WITH ANY LUCK ON THE MARKET STREET DEAL WHERE WE'RE SURVEYS SHOULD BE DONE IN THREE WEEKS.

    DESIGN SHOULD START SHORTLY THEREAFTER TO PROBABLY TWO MONTHS.

    THEN WE'LL BE IN FRONT OF THE CITY FOR APPROVAL PROCESSES AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO BREAK GROUND BY MARCH 1ST OF NEXT YEAR.

    WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT DONE STARTING AT LEAST BY JANUARY 1ST.

    OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY. THANK YOU.

    GET IT? ALL RIGHT.

    THANKS. ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MATTHEW. 126 BRIARGROVE DRIVE, PRINCETON, TEXAS.

    I'VE GOT NOTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE TAKEN DOWN ABOUT.

    I'M GOING TO TAKE A QUICK GUESSTIMATE BASED UPON HIS PHOTOS ALONE, PROBABLY ABOUT 10,000 PLUS TREES, AND HE'S ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON LESS TREES ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING PUT IN. IF YOU'LL READ TONIGHT WHAT'S GOING IN, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THEM BACK IN THERE.

    I MEAN, I'M A LANDSCAPER, AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT'S HAPPENING IS, YES, WE NEED CONCRETE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK, BUT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET OUR TREES BACK, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE JUST LOST ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM DOWN 380 IN FRONT OF EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE WIDENING.

    SO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THOSE BACK IN THERE.

    THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING I'M ASKING.

    I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE APARTMENTS AT ALL.

    IN FACT, IN ALL HONESTY, I FEEL LIKE THEY WOULD DO GREAT BEHIND THE MARKET STREET OR ALONG SIDE OF IT, POSSIBLY EVEN A HOTEL CONCEPT, IF THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO PUT BACK THERE. BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE SET BACK OFF THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF A VERY LARGE RETAIL FACILITY AND LOOK HOW MUCH FOOT TRAFFIC WILL BE SITTING IN FRONT OF THAT, WHICH THEN AGAIN WOULD PLAY A VERY GOOD PART WITH THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX.

    I AGREE WITH THAT CONCEPT ALTOGETHER.

    BUT AGAIN, I DO FEEL LIKE THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE IN TODAY'S LAND THAT HAVE NOT BEEN 100% CLEARED ON THE CURRENT PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

    I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO NOT KEEP ADDING TO THAT VARIANCE AND SAYING, HEY, I ONLY WANT 2 TO 3 TREES REPLACED.

    YOU KNOW, QUIT MODIFYING THAT STEP.

    YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM PUT IN ISLANDS, MORE TREES, PUT DOWN GREEN SPACE BACK.

    I KNOW THERE'S NO BOUNDARY, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY BACKING UP TO THAT.

    I DO HAVE A LOT OF LEGAL STUFF THAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.

    THIS PROPERTY DOES ABUT WITHIN 200FT OF CREEKVIEW, NONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS PER CONTACT HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER EITHER FOR THIS MODIFICATION OF ZONING.

    THERE IS NO POSTED SIGNAGE FOR THIS PROJECT EITHER ABOUT A MODIFICATION OF ZONING.

    I DO FEEL LIKE OUR CITY NEEDS TO DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT AND I DO FEEL LIKE YOU ALL NEED TO START HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND SAY, HOLD UP, HAVE THE RESIDENTS RECEIVE THIS BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

    THEY ALSO THERE'S NO SIGNAGE OUT THERE.

    YOU MAY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE CONTENDING THIS RIGHT NOW.

    AGAIN, THE THING ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IS A DIFFERENT PROJECT, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FOCUS OF MOST OF OUR CITY RESIDENTS ARE.

    YOU MAY HAVE A BIG TURNOUT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THIS AS WELL, BUT BECAUSE THAT NOTICE WASN'T OUT THERE AND THOSE SIGNS AREN'T UP LIKE ALL THE OTHER CITIES AROUND HERE DO, INCLUDING OUR SMALLER CITIES NEXT TO US, THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.

    AND I FEEL ASHAMED, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IT'S STILL HAPPENING THREE YEARS LATER, THAT WE CAN'T GET PROPER SIGNAGE PUT UP AND PROPER MAILINGS PUT OUT.

    YES, THEY MIGHT BE POSTMARKED IN THE CORRECT TIME.

    THEY'RE NOT GETTING RECEIVED BY THE RESIDENTS.

    SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION THERE.

    IF THAT MEANS IT'S GOT TO GO OUT AN ADDITIONAL 20 DAYS EARLIER THAN WHAT IT IS, THEN THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN.

    BUT BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS DON'T GET THE NOTICES, THE SIGNS DON'T GO UP TO NOTIFY PEOPLE, YOU LITERALLY ARE IN HERE MAKING THAT DECISION FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO CLUE.

    AND YES, THE NOTICES GO OUT FOR PEOPLE TO READ IT, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT UNLESS IT'S BROUGHT TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA PUBLIC LIMELIGHT THESE DAYS? SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I GOT.

    [01:15:02]

    BUT AGAIN, I'M ALL FOR THESE GUYS WITH THE APARTMENTS AND DEFINITELY FOR THE MARKET STREET CONCEPT.

    IT'S DEFINITELY WHAT'S NEEDED BECAUSE AS YOU SEE, LARGE RETAIL WANTS 380 WEST OF PRINCETON DRIVE AND NOT EAST OF PRINCETON DRIVE RIGHT NOW.

    AND THERE'S A REASON BEHIND THAT, AND THAT'S BECAUSE ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING UP MONTE CARLO AND HEADED NORTH.

    AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE LOOKING.

    THAT'S WHY QUIKTRIP CHOSE THE CORNER THAT THEY CHOSE.

    SO THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU, GUYS.

    THANKS, MATT. ANYONE ELSE.

    OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 719.

    ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM.

    THE COMMISSION. WELL, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR FOR CRAIG.

    I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S OUR POLICY OR WHAT'S THE RULE OF THUMB FOR MITIGATION FOR TREES, CERTAIN CALIBERS RE RELOCATING OR HAVING THAT, YOU KNOW, TREES BEING REPLANTED SOMEWHERE ELSE OR TREES.

    EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRPERSON, WE WE DO NOT HAVE A CALIPER FOR CALIPER REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENT IN OUR ORDINANCE.

    WE DO HAVE SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO BE COMPLY WITH WHEN THEY WHEN THEY START SUBMITTING CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.

    SO TONIGHT WE'RE JUST TONIGHT WE'RE JUST VOTING ON THE ACTUAL LAND USE OF THAT.

    THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AND WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE WHEN THEY SUBMIT THOSE PLANS.

    THANK YOU. DOES THE STAFF HAVE? MR. FISHER'S INFORMING ME THAT THERE IS ALSO A REDUCTION IN IN THEIR IN THEIR PROPOSED PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS FOR A REDUCTION IN THE IN THE LANDSCAPE, IN THE LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT.

    DOES STAFF HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE NOTIFICATIONS ON THIS ITEM AND WHETHER OR NOT THOSE NOTICES OR WHEN THEY WERE SENT OUT OR IF THEY WERE SENT OUT? YES.

    I CAN CONFIRM THAT THE NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND THE LETTERS WERE MAILED TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT AS REQUIRED BY CITY ORDINANCE.

    AND WHAT ABOUT THE SIGNAGE? SANDERS IS TECHNICALLY NOT REQUIRED BY CITY ORDINANCE.

    OKAY. AND HOW ARE THE MAILING ADDRESSES DETERMINED? IS THAT THE CITY'S JOB OR DO THE DEVELOPERS PROVIDE THAT? THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED THOSE ADDRESSES BASED ON THE COUNTY'S APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S DATA FOR PROPERTY OWNERS.

    SO THOSE ADDRESSES WERE PROVIDED.

    THE CITY PUT TOGETHER THE LETTER AND MAILED IT TO THE ADDRESSES PROVIDED.

    SO WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS OR OR TOPICS THIS MONTH THAT HAVE NOT THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE CLAIMING THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE THESE NOTICES.

    IS THERE A WAY TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT MAYBE WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING ALL OF THE CORRECT.

    WE BELIEVE THE NOTICES WERE SENT OUT AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

    REGARDLESS, IT DOES NOT INVALIDATE THE HEARINGS TODAY.

    NO, I DON'T QUESTION THAT.

    I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THESE AREN'T GOING OUT AT ALL.

    AND THE PUBLIC COULD BE MISUNDERSTANDING ON HOW THE NOTICES ARE SENT.

    BUT STAFF CHECKS THAT AND MAKES SURE THE NOTICES ARE SENT WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS OF STATE LAW.

    AND THAT IS TEN DAYS BEFORE A MEETING.

    YES. SO IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.

    I MEAN, MR. FISHER COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO WHEN THE CITY SECRETARY ACTUALLY SENDS THOSE NOTICES OUT.

    RIGHT. THE CITY SAID ITS SECRETARY SENDS THEM OUT TEN DAYS BEFORE AND AT A MINIMUM.

    SO WHEN THEY GET TO THE WHEN THEY GET TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS IS UP TO THE US POSTAL SERVICE.

    YEAH, RIGHT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY.

    COULD THERE BE A MISCONCEPTION OF WHAT 200FT IS FROM THE SITE? I'M JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE IT KEEPS COMING UP.

    IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED AREA AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED AREA AND MR. FISHER STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS ACTUAL BOUNDARY OF THIS THIS ZONING CASE IS ACTUALLY STARTS A QUITE A BIT FURTHER TO THE TO THE WEST OF IT.

    SO THE 200FT, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT THIS MINUTE.

    BUT THE 200FT MAY NOT HAVE EVEN INCLUDED THOSE HOMES IN THE CREEK VIEW SUBDIVISION.

    THAT WAS WHAT MY QUESTION WAS.

    THERE WAS JUST A HANDFUL OF HOMES THAT WERE ARE WITHIN 200FT BECAUSE OF THE BOUNDARY AS STATED.

    OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.

    I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT I THINK THIS IS GREAT.

    TO ME CONFORMS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EVEN WITH THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON IT.

    SO. OKAY.

    THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

    [01:20:08]

    I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZA 20231491.

    AND I'LL SECOND. HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

    ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

    AYE. AYE.

    MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

    ITEM L20231697.

    PRELIMINARY PLAT HAZELWOOD SOUTH.

    COM DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM HAZELWOOD SINGLE FAMILY LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 4.997 ACRE TRACT IN THE JOHN SNYDER SURVEY.

    ABSTRACT NUMBER 865 COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.

    THE REQUEST IS FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A TRACT THAT IS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S ETJ OR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SINGLE NON RESIDENTIAL LOT.

    THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF AND HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH CITY REGULATIONS.

    STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS PLOT AS SUBMITTED.

    BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE.

    OKAY. THANK YOU.

    CRAIG. DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION COMMENTS? YOU'RE GOOD. YEAH. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER MEMBERS HERE.

    SO THIS IS A FIVE ACRE TRACT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY BUILDING.

    IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

    WE HAVE ABOUT 200 HOMES OVER THERE AND A MULTIFAMILY GOING UP.

    THIS WILL BE JUST THE EAST OF THAT PROPERTY.

    AND THE IDEA IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO YOU KNOW, I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY TO BE DONATED TO THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

    WE ARE PLANNING TO BRING IN A, YOU KNOW, THE THE FREE MEDICAL CENTER OVER THERE, A FREE MEDICAL SERVICES AND ALSO A PANTRY ALONG WITH THE 15,000 SQUARE FOOT OF A RELIGIOUS FACILITY OVER THERE.

    AND I HAVE SOME CONCEPT PLAN.

    I CAN HAND IT OVER TO YOU.

    SURE. THANK YOU.

    SO THE PAGE ONE, THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANGES TO THE DESIGN, BUT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA.

    BUT THE PAGE TWO AND THREE ARE THE ACTUAL DESIGN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD OVER THERE.

    AND THE SMALL CONDOS WILL BE I MEAN THE OFFICE CONDOS WILL BE IN THE FRONT.

    THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD HAVE I THINK THERE ARE LIKE FOUR CONDOS, LIKE THE COMMERCIAL CONDOS, AND THOSE WILL BE USED TO SET UP A THE MEDICAL SERVICES FOR LIKE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO COME IN.

    IT'S OPEN FOR EVERYBODY AND PANTRY WOULD ALSO BE OPEN FOR EVERYBODY SO.

    MR. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, JUST FOR JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY IN THE EDGE OF THE CITY LIMITS.

    LAND USE IS NOT AN ITEM IS ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

    THIS IS STRICTLY WITHIN STRICTLY REGARDING THE PLANNING REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON AND UPON REVIEW OF STAFF AND OUR AND OUR CONSULTANTS, WE BELIEVE IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH WITH OUR PLANNING REQUIREMENTS.

    OKAY.

    SO THIS WILL TIE IN TO THAT TO THAT DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST.

    YES, IT WILL BE TIED INTO THAT COMMUNITY.

    SO THE ROAD THAT YOU SEE ON THE TOP, RIGHT, THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE COMMUNITY.

    AND THEN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE ALL THOSE OTHER DUPLEXES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

    AND I'M ACTUALLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY.

    ACCESS TO THE NORTH.

    I KNOW RIGHT NOW, THAT'S LIKE THERE'S LIKE A GRAVEL ROAD, PRIVATE ROAD WITH SEVERAL HOMES OR 2 OR 3 HOMES.

    JUST THE ONE HOME RIGHT THERE.

    IT'S 100 FOOT EASEMENT DRIVEWAY THAT WE HAVE.

    WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING ON THAT.

    THAT WILL BECOME A PRIMARY ACCESS.

    SO THERE WOULD BE ACCESS TO THE NORTH UP TO HAZELWOOD? YES, SIR. OKAY.

    [01:25:07]

    ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.

    ROBIN. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

    THANK YOU, SIR.

    I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT 20231697.

    I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION.

    A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

    AYE. MOTION CARRIES (502) 023-1752.

    PRELIMINARY PLAT PRINCETON BUSINESS PARK BLOCK BLOCK FIVE BLOCK B LOT FIVE.

    DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM RR LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING 10.013 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE HEART AND RIGHT SURVEY.

    ABSTRACT NUMBER 957 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.

    THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A SINGLE LOT, JUST OVER TEN ACRES LOCATED ON CORPORATE DRIVE.

    THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF AND ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH CITY REGULATIONS.

    THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT.

    BUT BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

    MR. FISHER IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? YES, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

    SO JUST. THERE YOU GO.

    MY NAME IS CASEY MCBROOM, 1720, WEST VIRGINIA STREET.

    MCKINNEY. AND I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

    HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I CAN.

    YEAH. SO MY QUESTION WAS I DID SOME RECON ON THIS BUSINESS.

    THEY APPEAR TO BE. UH, AUTO CAR CARE PROVIDER OF RANDOM ORBITAL BUFFER THINGS.

    OR IS IT THEIR INTENTION TO MANUFACTURE OUT OF THIS FACILITY OR IS IT A SALES FRONT? BY I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO SERVE MAINLY AS A DISTRIBUTION AND KIND OF STORAGE LOCATION.

    THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MANUFACTURE.

    IT'S MAINLY JUST TO DISTRIBUTE THROUGHOUT.

    THEY'RE BASED OUT OF CALIFORNIA.

    AND I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE THEIR TEXAS LOCATION TO HELP IN DISTRIBUTING.

    OKAY. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.

    I'M FAMILIAR WITH DC, SO I APPRECIATE IT.

    SURE. THANK YOU.

    ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU.

    THANK YOU. THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.

    ANYONE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

    PL 20231752.

    AND I'LL SECOND HAVE A MOTION.

    A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

    AYE, AYE, AYE.

    MOTION CARRIES. FIVE ZERO.

    FINAL ITEM.

    P.L. 20231753.

    PRELIMINARY PLAT PRINCETON CROSSROADS BLOCK C LOT SIX DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM AMERICO REAL ESTATE COMPANY FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING AN 8.831 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE JOHN SNYDER SURVEY.

    ABSTRACT NUMBER 865 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.

    SO THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLOT REQUEST FOR A SINGLE LOT FOR NON RESIDENTIAL USE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST PRINCETON DRIVE.

    PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY STANDARDS.

    THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS THIS PLAT FOR THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

    BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

    THE APPLICANT, I DO BELIEVE, IS ALSO HERE.

    IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY OR PRESENT OR.

    OKAY. THANK YOU.

    I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND STEPPING FORWARD.

    THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. MATT MERRILL WITH AMERICORPS REAL ESTATE.

    AND IT'S 811 EAST BUSINESS 121 IN LEWISVILLE.

    MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE OVERALL HEIGHT I SAW I UNDERSTAND THE U-HAUL BUSINESS MODEL.

    [01:30:03]

    SO NEEDING THE, I GUESS, THE LEASING VERBIAGE IN THERE, THAT'S FINE.

    LOOKING BACK AT THE ORIGINAL PD THAT WE APPROVED BACK IN 2017, I BELIEVE IT WAS AN OVERALL HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF 35 FOOT.

    SO MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW TALL IS YOUR BUILDING INTENDED TO BE? THE TALLEST BUILDING IS 53 FOOT.

    AND WE CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL SEVERAL MONTHS BACK AND HAD THAT AMENDED.

    OKAY. THAT WAS THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.

    OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HIM? NO. OKAY.

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

    OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

    I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT 20231751753.

    I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

    ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

    AYE. MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO.

    INFORMATION NEXT MEETING.

    [INFORMATION]

    MONDAY, JULY 17TH, 2023.

    NUMBER TWO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA, NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THESE REQUESTS.

    AT THIS TIME. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'LL FORGO UPDATE OF HONOR.

    I WOULD STILL I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP AT A MEETING OR TWO AGO, BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO REVIEW AT ANY UPCOMING MEETING THAT WORKS WITH THE CITY AND MR. FISHER. BUT.

    IN LIGHT OF DIFFERING OPINIONS ON MULTIFAMILY.

    AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN THAT A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP.

    I WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT MORE WHEN TALKING ABOUT THESE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS AND ENGAGE THEM AS WELL AS PRINCETON FIRE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AT A REALLY FAST RATE, WE'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE RESOURCES FOR MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE IN UNIFORM TO CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

    SO DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT FITS IN THE ZONING PERSPECTIVE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A COUNCIL MEETING AFTERWARDS TONIGHT, SO MAYBE THEY COULD DISCUSS THAT. SO THAT'S IT.

    OKAY. THANK YOU.

    WE'LL FORGO ANY UPDATE ON ONGOING PROJECTS SO THE COUNCIL CAN GET THEIR SPECIAL MEETING STARTED.

    SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

    I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

    I'LL SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

    AYE, AYE, AYE.

    WE'RE ADJOURNED.

    * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.