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>> WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY OF PRINCETON REGULAR MEETING, FEBRUARY 20TH, 2024.
PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES. COMMISSIONER ROLL CALL.
KYLE SUTTON IS HERE. ROBIN FORSYTHE, IS NOT HERE. NIKKI KRUM.
>> CHRIS COOPER IS NOT HERE BUT HE SHOULD BE HERE IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
IF YOU WILL PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC APPEARANCE.
SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO OR TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS SECTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO ANY INQUIRY.
I'LL NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE FIVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT THAT ARE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ONE OF THOSE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT SPECIFIC ITEM IS BEING DISCUSSED AND WE WILL OPEN THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THAT TIME.
IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, YOU CAN COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
WE WILL MOVE ON. I'LL MAKE ANOTHER NOTE THAT THERE IS ONE PERSON THAT WANTED TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC APPEARANCE THAT IS NOT HERE BUT WILL BE HERE.
AT THE END OF THE REGULAR AGENDA, WE WILL HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC APPEARANCE TIME WHEN THAT PERSON CAN SPEAK.
WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE ANYBODY ELSE WAIT THROUGH THE ENTIRE MEETING UNNECESSARILY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER SO REQUESTS, IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, THERE ARE FIVE.
IT'S THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 18TH MEETING.
THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 16TH MEETING FP 202202392 FINAL PLAT PIN MATSA PHASE 1, FP 202-20-2392 FINAL PLAT PIN MATSA PHASE 2 AND FP 20210426 FINAL PLAT MONTICELLO PART PHASE 3B.
IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION BY ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[REGULAR AGENDA]
FIRST ITEM, PUBLIC HEARING, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON.THERE'S A BUTTON DOWN THERE. THERE YOU GO.
>> THERE WE GO. MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
I JUST HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE IN FRONT OF YOU. IF YOU GO AHEAD.
>> COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> SURE. I'M SORRY. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS DANIEL ACEVEDO.
I'M WITH KIMLEY-HORN. WE'RE THE CONSULTANT ON THE COMP PLAN UPDATE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE WAS REALLY TO FOCUS IN ON THE 380 LAR CORRIDOR AS IT'S PLANNED TO GO NORTH OF THE CITY AND THROUGH THE ETJ.
WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THOSE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY AND ALSO ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY AS WELL.
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YOU CAN SEE IT THERE ON YOUR SCREEN.NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS PROCESS WAS A FOUR PHASE PROCESS.
STARTED AROUND MAY TIME FRAME UNTIL NOW.
WE HAD A WEBSITE, WE HAD SURVEYS, WE DID A COUPLE OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EVENTS, A WORKSHOP.
WE ALSO HAD A JOINT WORKSHOP WITH PINSON CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN WE MOVED INTO IMPLEMENTATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
IN YOUR PACKET, AS PART OF THE REPORT, THERE WERE A COUPLE CHAPTERS THAT WE UPDATED IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE FIRST ONE WAS LAND USE AS IT RELATED TO LAND USE.
WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WITH THE 380 CORRIDOR AS PART OF THAT.
AS PART OF THE LAND USE CHAPTER, NOW THERE INCLUDES SUBDISTRICT AREAS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT GIVES INFORMATION ON THE DESIRED CHARACTERISTICS OF THE DISTRICT, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT LED TO A ZONING AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS BEFORE AND AFTER THIS PROCESS AS WELL.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE ALSO UPDATED THE MOBILITY SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UPDATED THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL AROUND FLEXIBLE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR ROADWAYS, AS WELL AS UPDATED THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PLAN AS WELL.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THEN FINALLY, WE WRAPPED IT UP WITH IMPLEMENTATION.
YOUR IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER PREVIOUSLY INCLUDED A VERY SIMILAR MATRIX AS YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAND OF YOUR SCREEN.
WE UPDATED THAT AS WELL WITH THE NEW ACTION ITEMS. WE ALSO WROTE PRIORITY PROJECTS INTO THE REPORT AS WELL.
THOSE PRIORITY PROJECTS, THEY IDENTIFY KEY PROJECTS THAT WOULD ENSURE SUCCESS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, SO KEY THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO OVER TIME IN ORDER TO REALIZE THE VISION.
THEY RANGE FROM DIFFERENT SCALES.
BUT IT'S REALLY USEFUL TOOL FOR YOU TO USE INTO THE FUTURE TO BOTH UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF PROJECTS, BUT THEN ALSO TO UNDERSTAND SOME FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY RELATE TO THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GETTING TOO INTO THE WEEDS HERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION TO GO THROUGH IN JUST A FEW DAYS.
I KNOW SEVERAL OF US ARE COMING IN KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS.
BUT I JUST NOTICED A COUPLE OF DISCREPANCIES.
SPECIFICALLY, MY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE THAT I HAVE HERE IS ON A DIFFERENT COUPLE OF PAGES, THERE'S A SECTION OF LAND JUST JUST WEST OF PRINCETON LAKES WHERE ON ONE PAGE IT SHOWS MIXED LIFESTYLE USE, ENTERTAINMENT.
BUT THEN ON THE NEXT FEW PAGES DOWN, IT HAS THAT BROKEN DOWN INTO URBAN AND SUBURBAN LIVING, WHICH JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND PARTICIPATING IN SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, ISN'T NECESSARILY WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS DESIRING.
HOW DO WE GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS MATCHING AND CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT? FIRST OFF, AND THEN WHILE KEEPING IN MIND WHAT PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY LIVING IN THAT VICINITY ARE PREFERRING.
>> SURE. WE CAN RECONCILE ANY DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL.
IF THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS TO PICK UP, WE'LL DO ANOTHER COMB THROUGH.
CRAIG, DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT AT ALL?
>> I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS BEFORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PRINCETON LAKES AREA AND WHAT SHOULD BE GOING IN AROUND THAT CERTAIN BUFFER ZONES BETWEEN DIFFERENT LEVELS OF HOUSING AND WHATNOT.
>> ON THE MULTIFAMILY ADS, WHAT CLASS IS BEING IDENTIFIED OF HOUSING?
>> AS FAR AS THAT MULTIFAMILY IS CONCERNED, THAT MIGHT BE BETTER ANSWERED IN THE ZONING PORTION OF THIS THAN THE NEXT ITEM, AND IT GETS INTO DETAIL AS FAR AS SORT OF THAT SCALE, WHAT THE DENSITY MIGHT BE, THAT TYPE OF THING.
>> THE COMP PLAN IS REALLY MORE OF THE HIGH LEVEL RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THE ZONING GOES INTO MORE DETAIL.
>> SINCE THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE INCONSISTENCIES THAT I SAW, I'D PERSONALLY LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO KIND OF COMB THROUGH THIS WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
THIS DOCUMENT IS 77 PAGES AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS 133.
WE ONLY GOT FOUR DAYS TO REVIEW THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN DO A WORK SESSION TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT ONCE A PLAN IS PUT TOGETHER, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT REVIEWED KIND OF THAT WAY BEFORE WE DECIDE, OKAY, YEAH, IT'S GOOD.
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MOVE FORWARD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING INTERPRETED PROPERLY AND JUST TO KIND OF CATCH SOME OF THOSE THINGS LIKE ONE.ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT I HAVE IS THE URBAN LIVING, THE MULTIFAMILY ASPECT.
THE PROJECTIONS THAT I'VE SEEN ON HERE ARE ACTUALLY LOWER THAN WHAT THE CURRENT SUBDIVISION MAPS ARE SHOWING ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
JUST THINGS LIKE THAT. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN DETAIL.
BEING NEW ON THE COMMITTEE HERE, I MYSELF, FOUR DAYS IS NOT SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME TO READ OVER 200 PAGES OF INFORMATION.
I TRULY THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO READ THE INFORMATION.
>> COULD WE DO THAT? CORRECT. COULD WE AGREE TO KIND OF TABLE THIS OR POSTPONE THIS TILL WE GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT OR MAYBE EVEN HAVE A WORK SESSION AND GO OVER A FEW THINGS LIKE THAT?
>> EXCUSE ME. ABSOLUTELY. YES, YOU CAN. YOU CAN TABLE.
WE DO NEED TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS NOTICED.
BUT YES, YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE.
>> WE COULD DO THAT FOR THE FIRST TWO ITEMS?
>> I THINK WE'RE GOOD. APPRECIATE IT. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS FIRST ITEM AT 6:11.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.
OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT 06:11 THANK YOU.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID?
>> SURE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE REVIEW FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO GIVE US TIME TO REVIEW.
>> OKAY. HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
>> MOTION CARRIES 5:0. I'M ASSUMING WE WILL DO THE SAME THING ON THE SECOND ITEM.
SECOND ITEM, PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING ORDINANCE, TEXT AMENDMENT DISCUSSION, RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING MAJOR AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON ZONING ORDINANCE.
I WILL OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT 06:12 IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 06:12 AND ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION ON THAT ONE.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT IN RELATIONS WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW.
>> HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES 5:0. ITEM 3, PUBLIC HEARING Z20 243013, ZONE MAP AMENDMENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM AJELLCC FOR A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 45.55 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE HARD AND RIGHT SURVEY.
ABSTRACT NUMBER 957, CITY OF PRINCETON, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
CRAIG FISHER, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE 45 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO PD 41.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 452.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS TO CREATE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT AGREEMENT.
THERE ARE A FEW STIPULATIONS PROPOSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT ARE SHOWN HERE AS WELL A SIDE YARD SETBACK OF FIVE FEET AND SOME MASONRY AND ROOF DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
HERE'S A LOOK AT THE CONCEPT PLAN.
THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY QUESTION, THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE APARTMENTS BECAUSE IT SAYS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCE?
>> THERE'S MULTIFAMILY RESIDENT ON THE ADJACENT LOTS, BUT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS BEING ZONED, OR THE PROPOSED ZONING IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
ARE THESE PREFABBED HOUSES AND EXEMPT FROM EXHIBIT D, ITEMS B AND C, OR ARE THESE FULL CONSTRUCTION?
>> NO, THESE WILL BE BUILT ON SITE AS TRADITIONAL STICK BUILT HOMES.
>> HOW DOES THIS PER PROPOSAL VARY FROM THE ONE THAT WE APPROVED LAST MONTH?
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IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.THE ONLY DIFFERENCE I SEE IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I'M NOT SURE WHICH ITEM YOU'RE REFERRING TO FROM LAST MONTH.
EXCUSE ME. THIS IS THE SAME ONE.
SORRY. NOW, I REMEMBER THE CITY ATTORNEY NOTED AN ERROR IN OUR NOTIFICATION, SO WE HAD TO BRING THIS ONE BACK TO YOU.
THIS IS THE SAME THAT YOU HEARD LAST TIME.
>> FIRST I JUST SEE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> YEAH. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AT 06:15.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 06:15.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FOR AJELLC.
>> HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT CHRIS COOPER IS NOW WITH US.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
PUBLIC HEARING Z20 243015, ZONE MAP AMENDMENT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM DOUBLE R DEV LLC FOR A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 1.153 0.967 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE HARD AND RIGHT SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 957, CITY OF PRINCETON, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
>> THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF ARCADIA FARMS, TO THE WEST OF SOUTH BEACH AND BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM AGRICULTURE TO PD 42.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS TO CREATE A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE ARE TWO TRACKS WITHIN THIS PROPERTY THAT HAVE BEEN DEEDED TO THE PRINCETON ISD.
FUTURE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WILL BE CONSTRUCTED HERE.
THE ZONING IS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
IT'LL ESSENTIALLY BE THE F2 ZONING, AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE SHOWN HERE.
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONSISTENT WITH THIS ZONING WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, AND HERE'S A LOOK AT THE CONCEPT PLAN OF HOW THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL LAY OUT.
THIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
THE DEVELOPER OR THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE. THANK YOU.
>> I SEE IT OVERLAPS WITH FLOWERY CROSSING IN TWO PLACES.
IS THERE ANY APPROVAL NEEDED FOR THAT OR HAS THAT BEEN COMPLETED?
>> THAT ETJ SWAP HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
IT'S NOW ENTIRELY WITHIN, IT'S NOW BEEN ANNEXED AS WELL SO THIS IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS AT 6:18 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:18.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? GO AHEAD.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT ZA20 243015 FOR R LLC.
>> I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM, PUBLIC HEARING SUP 20243016, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM SIGAN PRINCETON HOLDING LLC FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH ON A 1.195 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE DAVID CHERRY SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 166, CITY OF PRINCETON, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED UNTIL A FURTHER TIME, SO DO I EVEN NEED TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING CRAIG?
>> THEY'VE REQUESTED TO SPECIFICALLY TABLE TO THE MARCH PNZ MEETING.
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>> I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:20.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:20 I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TABLE SCP 20243016.
>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM, PL20 231866, PRELIMINARY PLAT, HARVARD FLATS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM BEAUCHAMP HILLS, LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 20.009 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE HARD AND RIGHT SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 957, CITY OF PRINCETON, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
>> THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH BEACH AND BOULEVARD NORTH OF US 380.
THIS IS FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THE PRELIMINARY PLOT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF AND THE CITY'S ENGINEER AND IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH CITY REGULATIONS.
FOR THAT REASON, THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALL MAY HAVE.
>> I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT JUST A COUPLE OF TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET THOSE FIXED BEFORE THEY GO TO COUNSEL.
THIS SHOULD BE PD 32, NOT 36, 36 AS WINCHESTER CROSSING AND THEN ON THE MAP ON PAGE 2, BEACH M IS LABELED AS EMERALD DRIVE.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PULM EMERY PLAT WITH PL 20231866 WITH THE CORRECTION OF THE TWO TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS.
>> I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM, APPEL 20233009, PRELIMINARY PLAT.
PS ADDITION, DISCUSS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM MAGNOLIA REALTY GROUP, LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 5.01 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE DAVID CHERRY SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 166, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
>> THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUEST IS FOR A FIVE ACRE TRACK JUST NORTH OF THE MONTICELLO PARK PHASE 3 DEVELOPMENT.
WE'LL NOTE THAT THIS TRACT IS OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, IT IS LOCATED IN THE ETJ.
THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO DEVELOP TWO COMMERCIAL LOTS, ONE FOR A DAYCARE STAFF.
AND CITY'S ENGINEERS HAVE REVIEWED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PLANS AND FOUND THEM TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CITY REGULATIONS.
THIS ITEM IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT.
>> DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY PRESENTATION, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? JUST TURN THAT MICROPHONE ON AND STATE YOUR NAME.
SHOULD BE A BUTT. THERE YOU GO. OH, THAT'S IT.
>> QUE KIM CIVIL ENGINEER 1782 WEST MCDERMOTT DRIVE.
IN TEXAS, I'M THE APPLICANT, AND I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER AS WELL.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATION, BUT IN CASE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND MY CLIENT WHO IS A DEVELOPER IS HERE AS WELL.
>> OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> YOU SAID THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR SCREENING WALLS OR ANYTHING BETWEEN THE SUBDIVISION NEXT DOOR?
>> I CAN'T REMEMBER IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A SCREENING WALL.
BUT WE DID SUBMIT THE PLANS AND I BELIEVE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
>> I CAN'T REMEMBER TELLING MY HAND WHETHER IF YOU HAVE A SCREENING WALL OR NOT.
>> I DON'T RECALL BEING THAT IT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
OUR ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT APPLY, SO THE REQUIREMENT FOR A SCREENING WALL FROM THE CITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY APPLY.
I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA AND A GOOD GESTURE, BUT WE CANNOT REQUIRE IT.
>> YEAH, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE A SCREENING WALL ALONG THE ABUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL.
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>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA SPECIFICALLY, BUT ARE THOSE LOTS THAT BACK UP TO IT, ARE THEY A BRICK WALL OR ARE THEY JUST WOOD FENCE DO WE KNOW?
>> THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BUILD A WOOD FENCE? I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
JUST YEAH, IT'S A BRAND NEW SUBDIVISION.
>> WITH IT BEING OUTSIDE THE SEA LIMITS IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL TO HAVE MAYBE A PARTNERSHIP ON AT LEAST A BRICK FENCE INSTEAD OF JUST WOODEN?
>> I THINK WE CAN ASK FOR ONE ASPECT CAN'T REQUIRE.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
MOTION TO APPROVE PL 202330009 P.M. FLAT FOR THE PLUS EDITION.
CRAIG, CAN WE ADD SOMETHING ABOUT MAYBE FUTURE CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER ABOUT THAT SCREENING WALL?
>> I'LL PUSH FOR IT. IF THEY'RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO IT, THAT'S UP TO THEM.
BUT I WILL DEFINITELY PUSH FOR IT.
>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> HELP ME OUT HERE. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NEW TO THIS, SOME OF US.
WHAT ARE WE APPROVING IF WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE THAT WALL? I KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN LIMITATIONS SINCE IT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMIT.
BUT I THOUGHT THE IDEA BEHIND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WAS MAKING SURE THAT WHEN ONE PLACE TYPE LANDED AGAINST ANOTHER, THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN PARAMETERS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THOSE PLACE TYPES.
>> MOST OF THOSE PARAMETERS ARE FOUND IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SO PROPERTIES IN THE ETJ SUCH AS THIS ARE ONLY SUBJECT TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, WHICH REGULATES THE SIZE OF LOTS.
GRADING AND DRAINAGE IS INCORPORATED IN THAT.
WE'VE REVIEWED GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLANS, LIFE SAFETY ITEMS, THAT'S JUST FIRE PROTECTION WERE ALSO REVIEWED, SO THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS REVIEW AND IS LOOKING AT THE PLANS.
BUT THINGS SUCH AS ZONING, THE LAND USE, SCREENING, BUFFERING BETWEEN DISTRICTS IS NOT APPLICABLE IN THIS INSTANCE.
>> HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A POTENTIAL ANNEX?
>> AT ONE POINT, THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT DID REQUIRE ANNEXATION AND ZONING, BUT THE DEVELOPER CHOSE TO TERMINATE THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE GET A BETTER, MORE CLEAR MAYBE DEFINITION, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO PUT UP THE ROCK WALL LIKE WAS SUGGESTED BRICK WALL? HI, IT'S QUE AGAIN. MY CLIENT IS HERE AND WE ARE WILLING TO COOPERATE AND WITH THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNER TO PUT UP A MASONRY SCREEN IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSIONER RECOMMEND. THANK YOU.
>> WITH THAT, GO AHEAD, NIKKI.
>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
>> CAN WE HAVE THE DOCUMENT AMENDED THAT INCLUDES THE BRICK PART OF THE WALL?
>> I CAN MAKE IT PART OF THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING.
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>> THEN THAT WOULD SHOW UP ON ANY SUBSEQUENT PLAT REQUEST.
CORRECT. YES. WE WILL BE REVIEWING THEIR FULL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND I'LL HOLD THEM TO IT.
>> THANK YOU, CRAIG. NEXT ITEM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF A VICE CHAIRPERSON FOR THIS COMMISSION.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM YOU ALL TO APPOINT A VICE CHAIR.
CHAIRMAN SUTTON HAS BEEN SERVING AS WELL AND HE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE.
HIS TERM DOES END AT THE NEW YEAR, BUT GOOD TO HAVE A BACKUP AND THE VICE CHAIRPERSON WOULD RESUME HIS DUTIES IN HIS ABSENCE.
BUT IT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO MAKE A MOTION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMMISSIONER.
>> WELL, GIVEN HER EXPERIENCE PREVIOUSLY ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND HER KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE NIKKI KRUM AS VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION.
>> I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NIKKI KRUM AS VICE CHAIRPERSON OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> INFORMATION NEXT MEETING WILL BE MONDAY, MARCH THE 18TH, 2024.
ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE INFORMATION SECTION,
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LET'S GO BACK AND HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC APPEARANCE.SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO OR DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS SECTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO ANY INQUIRY.
>> CERTAINLY. SURE. THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE TURN ON THE MIC AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> CANDACE FRANK. I'M HERE TO REQUEST A VARIANCE BE MADE PERTAINING TO A PARKING CONTRACT THAT I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR 44 PARKING SPACES THAT IS REQUIRED FOR US TO OBTAIN OUR CO AT THE SKATING RINK.
JUST A BRIEF RECAP, WE WERE HERE IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER TRYING TO GET THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WE FOUND OUT ALREADY EXISTED.
IT'S ORDINANCE 8236 FOR OFFSITE PARKING.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS, WE'VE OBTAINED THE ROLLER RINK AND WE ARE GOING TO REOPEN IT AS A PRIVATE SKATING VENUE.
IT'LL BE RSVP, SO FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL EVENT, THERE WILL BE NO MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE AND/OR 30 VEHICLES ALLOWED.
DURING THE REGISTRATION ONLINE WE'LL BE ABLE TO MONITOR THAT.
THE CITY REQUIRES 77 PARKING SPACES.
THE PARKING THAT WE HAVE IS AMPLE FOR WHAT WE PLAN TO DO, BUT IT'S REQUIRED FOR OUR CO.
I'VE BEEN IN MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. MCINTYRE AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND HE IS WILLING TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT, BUT THEY DO NOT DO ANYTHING ON A PERMANENT BASIS.
THE CHURCHES AND EVERYTHING THAT MEET AT THE VARIOUS SCHOOLS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
THEY'RE ALL IN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT THEY'RE EITHER WEEKLY, MONTHLY, WHAT HAVE YOU.
THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED PERMANENT.
MY COMMUNICATION WITH MR. FISHER, WHEN I INFORMED HIM OF THAT, HE SAID THAT HE WASN'T COMFORTABLE.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCE 8236 THAT SPECIFIES LEGAL TERMS. NOTHING SAYS THAT THE CONTRACT ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT HE'S NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND I RESPECT THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'VE SPENT MANY MONTHS DEALING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WE ARE TO A POINT TO WHERE WE CAN AGREE AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM FOR 44 SPACES AT THE STADIUM THAT WE'LL NEVER USE.
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BUT WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY IN ORDER TO OBTAIN OUR CO.I SHARED THE INFORMATION ON WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO.
OUR FAMILY WANTS TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE CITY AT PRINCETON FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES.
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
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MOVE ON TO THE INFORMATION ITEM 2.CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THESE REQUESTS AT THIS TIME.
THIS ISSUE WITH THE PARKING ORDINANCE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AND POSSIBLY HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE CONVERSATION ABOUT CHANGING THAT, AS LONG AS THEIR BUSINESS PLAN SPECIFICALLY OUTLINES MAX NUMBER OF PEOPLE, MAX NUMBER OF CARS?
>> VARIANCES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, SO THEY DO NOT COME BEFORE THIS BODY.
BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HER AND DISCUSS THAT PROCESS.
WE CAN LOOK FURTHER AT THE ORDINANCE AND ITS REQUIREMENTS.
IT REQUIRES A LEGAL AGREEMENT.
THERE'S ROOM FOR SOME INTERPRETATION THERE.
I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK FURTHER INTO THAT AND DISCUSS THAT WITH HER.
>> CAN WE VISIT THAT NEXT MONTH AND JUST MAYBE GO OVER WHAT THAT ORDINANCE IS AND ITS APPLICATIONS?
>> IN THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION?
>> I KNOW WE, AS A BODY CAN'T DISCUSS A VARIANCE, BUT MAYBE WE CAN REVIEW THE ORDINANCE TO SEE IF MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
I KNOW SOME OF OUR ORDINANCES ARE A LITTLE ANTIQUATED, BUT IF NOT, THEN MAYBE SHE CAN PROCEED WITH THE APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD TO A FUTURE AGENDA?
>> I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PAGE ON THE CITY WEBSITE UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE PROJECT OR SITE NAME.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST PLAN DEVELOPMENT ONE THROUGH 40.
I'M A RESEARCHER AND IT TAKES SOME TIME DIGGING THROUGH, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IS WHICH.
I FELT LIKE THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING A LITTLE BETTER EASE TO ACCESS.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ITEM 3, UPDATE OF ONGOING PROJECTS.
ANY UPDATES FROM CRAIG OR ANY QUESTIONS FOR CRAIG ON ANY ONGOING PROJECTS?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE.
>> IF THERE'S NOTHING THERE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'RE ADJOURNED. HAVE A NICE NIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.