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ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

THE TIME IS 7:50 P.M.

THIS WILL CALL TO ORDER THE CITY COUNCIL, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

SPECIAL JOINT MEETING TODAY IS APRIL 29TH, 2024.

WE WILL BEGIN WITH A ROLL CALL FOR CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE CHAIR FOR EDC, PLEASE CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR YOUR BOARD PLEASE.

ALRIGHT, THE TIME IS 7:50.

THE DATE IS APRIL 29TH.

WE WILL OPEN THE MEETING FOR THE PRINCETON EDC WITH A ROLL CALL.

THANK YOU AND NOW FOR CDC.

ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ACTION THE CITY OF PRINCETON CDC MEETING AND WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL.

VOTE MYSELF.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR INVOCATION.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND LEAD US IN THAT TONIGHT.

HEAVENLY FATHER GOD, WE JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND SERVE, GOD.

GOD, WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR INFINITE WISDOM OVER ALL OF US TONIGHT, LORD, THAT WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT HONOR YOU AND HELP PROSPER OUR CITY.

LORD GOD, WE THANK YOU IN ALL THINGS, INCLUDING EVERYTHING HERE TONIGHT.

LORD GOD, AGAIN WE LOVE YOU.

WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SON JESUS.

AND IT'S IN HIS NAME THAT WE PRAY.

AMEN. OH, AND THEN WE'LL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'LL TAKE US TO ITEM D.

[PUBLIC APPEARANCE]

PUBLIC APPEARANCE. SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

THE COUNCIL IS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO OR DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THE SECTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION, RESPONSE TO A SPEAKERS INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY.

IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.

TONIGHT I HAVE MISTER [INAUDIBLE].

IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

THERE YOU GO. GOOD EVENING.

I WOULD LIKE TO PAY SOME TRIBUTE TO OFFICER DOMINGUEZ.

OFFICER DOMINGUEZ ABSENCE LEAVES A VOID THAT WILL BE KEENLY FELT.

WE WILL MISS HER DEARLY.

HER PRESENCE, HER WARMTH, AND HER UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF OTHERS.

ONE OF HER NOTABLE CONTRIBUTIONS WAS HER SERVICES FOR THE PRINCETON MUSLIM COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE ISLAMIC CENTER BUILDING AND THE SURROUNDING PARKING AREAS FOR WORSHIPERS.

HER COMMITMENT TO GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN HER DUTIES WAS EVIDENT TO ALL WHO WORKED ALONGSIDE HER.

WITH HEAVY HEARTS, WE BID FAREWELL TO OFFICER DOMINGUEZ, WHOSE MEMORY WILL FOREVER ECHO WITH THE SAME WORDS AND SENTIMENTS FROM ALL WHO KNEW HER, DESCRIBED AS KIND, PERPETUALLY WEARING A SMILE, RESPONSIBLE AND DEDICATED TO EXCELLENCE IN HER WORK, SHE LEFT AN INDELIBLE MARK ON THOSE AROUND HER.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ATTENTION TO A CONCERN REGARDING SPEEDING ON [INAUDIBLE] PARTICULARLY SOUTH OF 380 DURING THE MORNING HOURS BETWEEN 6:30 A.M.

AND 7:30 A.M..

IT SEEMS THAT BEACHUM HAS TURNED INTO A RACETRACK FOR MANY DRIVERS.

AS A RESIDENT OF ARCADIA FARMS AND A BOARD MEMBER OF HOA FOR A THREE YEAR TERM, I'M AWARE THAT SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ALSO RESIDENTS AND MAY THEY MAY RECALL FROM THE PAST ELECTION PROCESS WHERE THE CANDIDATE WITH THE HIGHEST VOTE SERVES FOR THREE YEARS, FOLLOWED BY THE SECOND HIGHEST FOR TWO YEARS, AND THEN THE REMAINING CANDIDATE FOR ONE YEAR ON THE BOARD.

SO I AM THE THIRD THREE YEAR BOARD MEMBER.

ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY, I WOULD LIKE TO INQUIRE ABOUT WHAT SPECIAL SERVICES OR BENEFITS THE PRINCETON CITY IS PROVIDING WHILE IMPOSING A SPECIAL TAX ON ARCADIA

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FARMS. WITH OVER 950 HOUSES AND APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION EXTRA CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY IN 2023.

WE BELIEVE THAT ALLOCATING RESOURCES FOR A DEDICATED POLICE OFFICER OR OFFICERS FOR BEACHUM BOULEVARD, PERHAPS EVEN TWO, COULD GREATLY BENEFIT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I KINDLY SEEK ASSISTANCE FROM OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MADAM MAYOR TO ADDRESS THE SPEEDING ISSUE ON BEACHUM, AND I ALSO REQUEST CHIEF WATERS TO EXPLORE THE FEASIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING MEASURES TO ADDRESS THIS CONCERN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TONIGHT FOR PUBLIC APPEARANCE? OKAY. IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE TO SECTION E, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY.

[INAUDIBLE] OH, I APOLOGIZE.

GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

[INAUDIBLE]. NO.

[INAUDIBLE]. NO.

THERE YOU GO. THERE WE GO, HERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT. CLINT LAWRENCE, 1304 EAST COLLEGE.

DEAR COUNCIL, I SPEAK HERE TONIGHT TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR THE PRINCETON HERALD.

THE PRINCETON HERALD HAS BEEN PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.

THEY ARE UNBIASED AND TRUTHFUL IN THEIR COVERAGE OF THIS CITY, AND THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY REASON TO CONSIDER ANOTHER PUBLICATION FOR THE CITY'S OFFICIAL PAPER.

TRANSPARENCY, FREE SPEECH AND FREE PRESS ARE SOME OF THE CRITICAL PARTS OF OUR REPUBLIC, AND THOSE PARTS SHOULD ALWAYS BE RESPECTED AND ENCOURAGED BY OUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS. THIS VINDICTIVE, MONGREL MENTALITY COMING FROM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM NEEDS TO STOP.

THIS BEHAVIOR SERVES NO ONE.

YOU ARE PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND ARE HELD TO HIGHER STANDARDS, SO START RESPECTING THE EXPECTATIONS OUR COMMUNITY DEMANDS.

ALSO, ON ANOTHER SUBJECT MATTER, DISCLOSING WHO EXACTLY BANKROLLED Y'ALL'S LITTLE WEEKEND RETREAT DOESN'T MAKE THE OPTICS LOOK ANY BETTER.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT ONLY CONFIRMS WHO ACTUALLY IS WORKING FOR WHO AROUND HERE.

DO Y'ALL REALLY THINK THESE COMPANIES DON'T EXPECT SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR UNDERWRITING THAT RETREAT? MY WIFE'S NONPROFIT HAD TO GET APPROVAL FROM THIS COUNCIL TO DONATE $5,000 TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE EQUIPMENT.

BUT THESE FOUR PROFIT COMPANIES THAT DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY CAN CONTRIBUTE WHATEVER THEY WANT, WHATEVER AMOUNT THEY WANT, TOWARDS A RETREAT FOR THIS COUNCIL WITHOUT HAVING TO VOTE FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD AND ONE MORE THING, MAYOR.

WHY DID YOU INSTRUCT THE CITY MANAGER TO NOT PURCHASE THE BEST OF THE BEST AD THIS YEAR? I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE TO NOW LOOK INTO THIS A LITTLE MORE.

THIS CAN BE VALIDATED THROUGH A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST.

YOU CHEATED YOUR EMPLOYEES OF WELL DESERVING RECOGNITION JUST BECAUSE MY WIFE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

IT'S PATHETIC.

IT'S PETTY, AND IT'S THE TYPICAL MEAN GIRL SHENANIGANS I EXPECT FROM YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT. IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.0415 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MAY REPORT ON ITEMS OF COMMUNITY

[ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

INTEREST, INCLUDING EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS OR CONDOLENCE INFORMATION REGARDING HOLIDAY SCHEDULES, RECOGNITION OF INDIVIDUALS, REMINDERS ABOUT UPCOMING CITY EVENTS, INFORMATION ABOUT COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS INVOLVING AN IMMINENT THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, AND REPORTS FROM LIAISONS TO SUPPORTED ORGANIZATIONS.

NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN ON ANY ITEM OF COMMUNITY INTEREST TONIGHT.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD FOR THIS, FOR COMMUNITY INTEREST.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE TONIGHT.

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT NIGHT.

I'M GLAD THAT AS BOARDS AND COUNCIL, WE CAN ALL HAVE ONE COMPREHENSIVE MEETING AND ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND OPERATE AS ONE TEAM.

SO I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE THE START OF SOMETHING GOOD THAT WE CAN ROUTINELY DO.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR SERVING.

WE KNOW AS WELL AS YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS OFTEN A VERY THANKLESS JOB.

SO I WANT TO MAKE FOR SURE THAT YOU GUYS DO KNOW THAT YOU'RE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR SHOWING UP TO DO THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND CONTINUING TO DO WHAT YOU DO.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO ADD, OKAY?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SO REQUEST IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA.

THERE IS NOTHING TONIGHT.

ITEM G CEREMONIAL ITEMS AGAIN, NOTHING TO DISCUSS, WHICH WILL TAKE US TO SECTION H, EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

UNDER THE TERMS OF CHAPTER 5.51 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL MAN TO ENTER A CLOSED SESSION OR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING.

SECTION 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, A SETTLEMENT OFFER, OR ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE

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ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS, CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER ON ANY AGENDA ITEM LISTED ELSEWHERE WITHIN THE AGENDA AND OR SUBJECT MATTER LISTED BELOW.

SECTION 551.072 DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY A GOVERNMENTAL BODY MAY CONDUCT A CLOSED MEETING TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY OF DELIBERATION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD BE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON THE POSITION OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE THIRD PARTY.

TONIGHT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING PROJECT PIRATE AND SECTION 551087 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

THIS CHAPTER DOES NOT REQUIRE GOVERNMENTAL BODY TO CONDUCT AN OPEN MEETING TO DISCUSS DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR A TERRITORY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY AND WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY, IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO A BUSINESS PROSPECT DESCRIBED IN SUBDIVISION ONE PROJECT PIRATE. THE TIME IS 8:01.

THIS WILL PUT US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THIS WILL BE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR COUNCIL AND EDC.

ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 8:31 AND EDC HAS RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[ACTION PERTAINING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

AND THE TIME IS 8:32, AND COUNCIL HAS NOW RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THAT'LL TAKE US TO ACTION PERTAINING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

MR. JOHNSON? YES. THAT'LL TAKE US TO ACTION PERTAINING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION.

YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION.

I MOVE TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT PILOT AND AUTHORIZE THE PEDC CHAIRPERSON TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT IN ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS RELATED THERETO, INCLUDING CLOSING DOCUMENTS.

ALL RIGHT AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. MILLER. ALL RIGHT AND WE'LL DO A VOTE BY SHOW OF HANDS.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT AND FOR COUNCIL, I WILL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE.

WELL, WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL.

I MOVE TO APPROVE AND RATIFY THE PEDC, ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT PART AND AUTHORIZE THE PEDC CHAIRPERSON TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS RELATED THERETO, INCLUDING CLOSING DOCUMENTS.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WILL, GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR VOTE, PLEASE AND THAT MOTION CARRIES SEVEN, ZERO FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE ITEM FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM J.

PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PUBLIC TONIGHT TO DISCUSS.

THEREFORE WE'LL MOVE TO SECTION K SPECIAL AGENDA.

[SPECIAL AGENDA]

WE WILL START WITH K1 2024 078.

RECEIVE UPDATE ON STRATEGIC RETREATS.

ALL RIGHT GUYS, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS COPY.

ANYBODY NOT GET THIS.

COUNCIL YOU HAVE A COPY AS WELL? I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH ALL OF IT WORD FOR WORD WITH YOU GUYS, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO GO OVER IT.

I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT ON THE BROAD STROKES OF THIS, AND THEN WE'LL JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT COHESIVELY.

SO THIS IS FROM OUR STRATEGIC RETREAT THAT WE HELD.

IT WAS A VERY BENEFICIAL RETREAT, SOMETHING THAT WILL IMPLEMENT YEAR TO YEAR AND AS WE MOVE ON WITH THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE BOARD PARTICIPATION ON, BECAUSE AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING AND KIND OF PREFACE THAT WITH IS THAT WE ALL DO NEED TO BE OPERATING WITH UNITY AND SO WE DO WANT INPUT FROM THE BOARDS.

WE DO WANT THAT COLLABORATIVE THINKING FROM THE BOARDS, BECAUSE WE ALL NEED TO BE DOING THINGS TOGETHER.

SO WE DID HAVE YOU GUYS IN MIND THE ENTIRETY OF OUR MEETING AND WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE AS WE ALL MOVED FORWARD AND WE STARTED MAKING THESE DECISIONS ON THIS.

SO WE DID START WITH OUR CORE VALUES.

THIS KIND OF KICKED OFF OF OUR MEETING.

WE WANTED TO MAKE FOR SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD VALUES SET IN PLACE, THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE MADE A DECISION AS COUNCIL, WE WANTED YOU GUYS TO REALLY KIND OF HONE ON THIS AS WELL, THAT ANYTIME YOU ARE MAKING A DECISION OR YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A DIRECTIVE THAT COMES DOWN FROM COUNCIL THAT WE MAKE FOR SURE THAT THESE VALUES ARE ALWAYS WEIGHED IN, THAT I THINK IN THE PAST SOMETIMES WE'VE MADE DECISIONS.

I'M SAYING WE AS EVERYBODY HERE THAT MAYBE SEEMED RIGHT AT THE TIME, BUT THERE WEREN'T NECESSARILY PILLARS BEHIND THAT TO SUPPORT IT.

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SO MOVING FORWARD, WE JUST WANTED TO BE VERY STRATEGIC WITH EVERY SINGLE DECISION THAT WE MADE.

SO ANYTHING THAT CAME THROUGH THAT WE COULD PINPOINT THAT BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WELL THIS IS WHERE IT ALIGNS WITH THIS VALUE.

THIS IS WHERE IT ALIGNS WITH THAT VALUE AND IF WE CAN'T FIND IT HERE, THEN THAT'S NOT SOMETHING AS A CITY THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

I THINK UNFORTUNATELY, AGAIN, IN THE PAST WE'VE MADE DECISIONS THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE SEE NOW THAT MAYBE WE HAVE A LITTLE BUYER'S REMORSE ON, OR WE REALIZE THAT MAYBE WASN'T THE DIRECTION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE WENT.

SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR LITMUS TEST MOVING FORWARD ON WHAT OUR PLANS ARE AS A CITY.

SO WE DID THIS KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION.

SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF COUNCIL WEIGHED IN ON AND WE JUST DECIDED WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US VALUE WISE.

SO THAT WOULD BE A COMMUNITY CENTRIC APPROACH TO OUR DECISIONS.

STEWARDSHIP AND SUSTAINABILITY, QUALITY OF LIFE ENHANCEMENTS, ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, INTEGRITY.

AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE ENHANCEMENTS THAT DIRECTLY REFLECTS CDC.

SO WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS INITIATIVE IS QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS FOR OUR CITY AND THEN THE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY, OF COURSE LEANS INTO EDC.

SO THAT WAS DEFINITELY OUR CORE VALUES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE FOR SURE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING INTO ALL THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE.

THE NEXT DAY IN OUR RETREAT, WE DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

WE KIND OF KICKED OFF OUR MEETING IN TALKING TO JUST INDUSTRY LEADERS THAT HAVE MOLDED CITIES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY RECREATE THE WHEEL, RIGHT? SO LET'S LOOK AT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE IT RIGHT AND NOT REPLICATE THAT, BUT LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES SO THAT WE CAN GO IN AND SAY, OKAY, HOW DID YOU DO THIS? WHAT DID YOU USE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY GREAT? AND WHAT PROBLEMS DID YOU COME UP WITH ALONG THE WAY THAT YOU HAD TO SOLVE THAT? NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE CAN LEARN HOW YOU DID IT.

SO IT WAS REALLY EYE OPENING IN THAT REGARD.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH REALLY THE DEVELOPERS OF FRISCO.

WE'LL NEVER BE FRISCO, SO WE KNOW THAT.

BUT WE CAN BE PROSPEROUS, LIKE FRISCO AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE A CITY THAT'S JUST HERE TODAY, AND PEOPLE PASS THROUGH IT, AND THAT'S ALL WE ARE AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY FOR FOREVER.

WE WANT TO KNOW HOW WE'RE PROSPEROUS AS A COMMUNITY.

SO LEANING INTO THOSE RESOURCES AND REALLY LEANING INTO THEIR ADVICE WAS SO BENEFICIAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM THEM AND JUST HAVE THAT DIALOG BACK AND FORTH AGAIN BY PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.

SO OUT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD WITH THEM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD OUR OWN, I'M SORRY, NOT DEVELOPERS, OUR OWN DIRECTORS THERE.

SO DIRECTORS OF EVERY DEPARTMENT REALLY HERE SPEAK TO COUNCIL AND GIVE US UPDATES.

WHERE ARE WE? WHERE ARE WE WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET? WHERE ARE WE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE? WHERE ARE WE WITH, YOU KNOW, FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON? THAT WAY AGAIN, WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN COUNCIL WISE, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE JUST WEREN'T ABREAST TO, THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE ON. SO WE JUST KIND OF STARTED THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, BLANK SLATE, WHERE WE AT, WHERE ARE WE GOING FORWARD.

SO IT WAS REALLY NICE TO AGAIN HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT BACK AND FORTH, AND THEN ALSO KIND OF BREAK THOSE BARRIERS BETWEEN COUNCIL AND STAFF.

RIGHT? BECAUSE WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.

THAT ALWAYS HAS TO BE HARMONIOUS AND HOW WE DO THAT AND SO KIND OF BREAKING THAT DOWN TO WHERE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE ARE ONE TEAM UNITED, AND HOW DO WE GET TO WHERE THAT GOAL IS? HOW DO WE MAKE FOR SURE THAT THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE HERE, IN THAT DECISIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAKE ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, INITIATED CITYWIDE AND THAT THINGS DON'T JUST FALL APART ONCE IT HITS STAFF.

HOW ARE WE ALL OPERATING TOGETHER.

SO THAT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL.

AGAIN, WE HEAVILY DISCUSSED EDC AND CDC AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS DIFFERENT IDEOLOGY AND THEN AGAIN, MAKING FOR SURE THAT THERE IS A TEAM FEELING WHERE WE ALL ARE ONE CITY OPERATING THAT WAY.

SO OUT OF THAT, ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THAT DIALOG BACK AND FORTH, WE DID COME UP WITH OUR TOP PRIORITIES AS A CITY.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK ON.

EVERY DECISION THAT WE DO MAKE, THAT WE MAKE FOR SURE THAT THESE ARE PART OF OUR PRIORITIES PURPOSEFUL PARTNERSHIPS TO ME.

I MEAN, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS THAT WE ARE LEANING ON OUR RESOURCES.

SO WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS LIKE OUR PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING WITH OUR THE OLD LEADERS IN FRISCO, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE LEANING ON PEOPLE TO LEARN FROM THEM? HOW ARE WE LEANING ON PEOPLE IN OUR INDUSTRIES THAT CAN HELP US ALONG THE WAY? HOW ARE WE COLLABORATING WITH OUR ISD? IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR CITY AND SCHOOL TO HAVE A COHESIVE RELATIONSHIP.

HOW ARE WE DOING THAT? HOW ARE WE LEVERAGING OUR PARTNERSHIPS? AND THOSE PARTNERSHIPS REALLY ARE WITH YOU TOO.

SO HOW IS THAT WORKING WITH COUNCIL AND BOARDS? SO THAT WAS HUGE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE PURPOSEFUL PARTNERSHIPS ECONOMIC VALUE ENTERTAINMENT.

WE HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HEAR IT TOO.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT IN OUR CITY.

WHERE ARE WE GOING? RIGHT AND IT'S NOT IN PRINCETON.

SO THAT MEANS EVERYBODY, INCLUDING US, IS SPENDING MONEY OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY.

THAT NEVER IS GOING TO HELP OUR CITY.

SO ENTERTAINMENT WAS A HUGE DEAL.

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BUT WITH THAT, THERE'S SO MANY NUANCES IN PATHWAYS ON HOW DO WE GET THERE, WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES ENTERTAINMENT LOOK LIKE? ENHANCED BUILDING STANDARDS.

THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED DISCUSSING THE MORATORIUM, AND I KIND OF ALREADY PREFACED THAT A LITTLE BIT IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS WHERE HOW DO WE STOP WHERE WE ARE AND SAY, OKAY, WE WANT MORE AS A CITY? WE DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE PACE THAT WE'RE AT.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT ENOUGH ENTRY LEVEL HOUSING.

WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH STOCK OF BASELINE HOUSING.

HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO ADVANCE PAST THAT? SO IF WE BRING IN ALL THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS, THAT'S GREAT AND THEY MAY EVEN HAVE A SECOND STEP WHERE THEY CAN GO TO A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY.

BUT AFTER THAT, WHEN THEY ARE BRINGING IN THE MONEY, THEY'VE GOT THE GROSS INCOME AS A FAMILY, WHERE ARE THEY MOVING TO? WELL, THEY'RE MOVING OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY AT THAT POINT.

SO HOW ARE WE CAPTURING THOSE RESIDENTS AND KEEPING THEM HERE AND MAKING FOR SURE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY? BECAUSE IF WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE INVESTED, THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO GROW.

THAT'S HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY CARE.

THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GOING TO START SERVING, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE THAT COMMITMENT FROM THEM.

SO THAT WAS HUGE THAT WE REALLY START THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? WELL, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT IF IT'S ONGOING.

SO THERE IS A TEMPORARY OR WE'RE PROPOSING WE'RE STILL WORKING TOWARDS IT OF A TEMPORARY PAUSE WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, LET'S NOT BUILD ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

NOW WE CAN'T PAUSE EVERYTHING THAT'S ONGOING.

WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN LAWSUIT TROUBLE.

RIGHT? BUT ANYTHING FUTURE, LET'S START WEIGHING THOSE.

LET'S START LOOKING THAT WITH MUCH MORE CRITICAL EYE AND SAY, IS THIS REALLY WHAT WE WANT? I THINK A LOT OF US, YOU KNOW, MYSELF DEFINITELY INCLUDED, COUNCIL INCLUDED.

I THINK FOR A LONG TIME WE WERE IN THE BUSINESS OF SAYING YES TO A LOT OF THINGS AND I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WE NEED TO ADOPT THAT MENTALITY OF IT'S OKAY TO SAY NO OR IT'S OKAY TO SAY NOT RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING'S PRESENTED TO US, IT MIGHT BE GOOD, BUT IS IT BEST? AND WE WANT TO BE BEST.

SO WHILE WE'RE PAUSING THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR BUILDING STANDARDS TO MAKE FOR SURE, DO WE HAVE THE CORRECT ORDINANCES IN PLACE TO SUPPORT WHAT WE WANT TO DO? YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE EVERYTHING LINED UP THAT ACTUALLY DOES PUT US IN A BETTER POSITION, THAT WE HAVE HIGHER QUALITY HOMES, THAT WE HAVE HIGHER QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN HIGHER QUALITY JOBS, THAT BRINGS IN THE HIGHER, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DRIVERS THERE.

SO WE'LL BE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT OUR BUILDING STANDARDS.

WE'LL BE UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN DEVELOPING A LAND ACQUISITION PLAN.

I KNOW WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER, BUT IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US AS A CITY THAT WE OWN LAND HERE, RIGHT? IF WE DON'T HAVE A SAY SO AND HOW THAT LAND DEVELOPS OUT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE A SAY.

SO HOW IT DEVELOPS OUT.

RIGHT, AND SO IT'S HARD TO SIT BACK AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY COMPLAIN, BUT COMPLAIN IS THE RIGHT WORD OF WE DON'T LIKE THIS.

WE DON'T LIKE THAT.

WE DON'T LIKE THIS ALONG 380.

WE DON'T LIKE ALL THESE BUSINESSES ALONG 380.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT THIS. WE WANT THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER IT.

A LOT OF TIMES IF SOMEBODY BUYS THAT UP, THEY CAN BUILD BUY RIGHT ON WHAT THAT LAND IS.

THIS GIVES US CONTROL, RIGHT? THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO DEVELOP OUT AS A CITY.

THIS IS HOW WE MAKE FOR SURE WE HAVE THE HOUSING STOCK, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE COMMERCIAL, THE ENTERTAINMENT, THE PARKS.

SO THAT WAS REALLY BIG FOR US TO MAKE FOR SURE THAT WE DO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE LAND.

THAT IS REALLY IT.

BUT I DO WANT COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN KIND OF ON WHAT YOU GUYS TOOK FROM THE RETREAT AND MAKE FOR SURE THAT OUR BOARDS KNOW THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M FORGETTING THINGS.

SO PLEASE WEIGH IN.

NOT ALL AT ONE TIME.

NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AT THE RETREAT, WHICH WAS WHICH KIND OF STUCK WITH ME, IS THAT THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE, A LOT OF TIMES WE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE THE DECISIONS FOR NEXT WEEK, WHEN IN REALITY, THEY'RE DECISIONS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

RIGHT? SO I THINK ONE OF THE I THINK HE SAID THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE ARE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, NOT THE NEXT ELECTION.

YEAH AND SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT STUCK WITH ME.

SO I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WE GET REQUESTS OR WE TALK TO PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW, WE THINK WOW, WE YOU KNOW THIS DECISION.

BECAUSE EVEN TODAY THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT GO ON IN OUR CITY OR THAT HAPPEN, NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND THE FIRST THING PEOPLE DO IS THEY LOOK AT US RIGHT WHEN SEVERAL OF US HERE, WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT STUCK WITH ME.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE FORMALIZING THINGS GOING FORWARD.

ONE THING THAT I GOT FROM THE RETREAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN PRINCETON, DRIVING AROUND PRINCETON, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T SEE HOW GREAT THE CITY REALLY IS.

YOU CAN GET YOU GET USED TO SEEING WHAT WE WHAT WE SEE.

WE GET USED TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE, AS THE MAYOR SAID, COMPLAIN.

WE COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING, WHAT IS HAPPENING.

IN THIS RETREAT, WE GOT A CHANCE TO TALK TO BASICALLY THE FOUNDERS OF FRISCO AND WHEN THEY CAME THERE, THEY DIDN'T COME AFTER FRISCO WAS ESTABLISHED.

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THEY GOT THERE WHEN FRISCO WAS CONSIDERED LIKE A RED LIGHT DISTRICT.

IT HAD STRIP CLUBS AND GAMBLING SHACKS ALL UP AND DOWN FRISCO.

IT WASN'T WHAT IT WAS TODAY AND TO SEE WHAT IT BECAME 30, 40 YEARS LATER.

OUT OF WHAT NOW WE'RE NOT AT THOSE STREETS.

I'M NOT COMPARING THAT TO PRINCETON.

BUT I'M SAYING WHAT I, WHAT I DID GET IS WE WERE ABLE TO LAY OUT PRINCETON A MAP OF PRINCETON AND JUST SEE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH, THE POSSIBILITIES THAT PRINCETON CAN HAVE THAT I DIDN'T SEE BEFORE AND THAT ACTUALLY GOT ME EXCITED AND THINK ABOUT THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY VERSUS, LIKE BRIAN SAID, NOT THE DECISIONS FOR NEXT WEEK, BUT THE DECISIONS THAT'S GOING TO LONG LIVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN MY CHILDREN POSSIBLY ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET VOTED INTO OFFICE OR LIVE HERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I GOT OUT OF THE POSSIBILITY BECAUSE PRINCETON WE WE DON'T REALIZE IT BECAUSE WE SEE IT FIRST HAND.

BUT PRINCETON HAS A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES.

WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO HERE TO GROW PRINCETON INTO, YOU KNOW, THE GREAT CITY THAT WE KNOW WE ARE.

YEAH, I'M GOING TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON THAT AND YOU'RE SO RIGHT.

SO THERE WAS JUST LIKE A NEW LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT AND JUST REALLY KIND OF BEING INVIGORATED AGAIN ABOUT OUR CITY BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IF WE DIDN'T LOVE OUR CITY.

RIGHT. I THINK ALL OF US CAN SAY WE LOVE PRINCETON.

WE'RE INVESTED IN PRINCETON.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER, BUT DOING IT DAY IN AND DAY OUT, IT'S NOT THAT YOU BECOME ANESTHETIZED TO IT, BUT YOU JUST KIND OF SEE IT LIKE THIS, RIGHT? SO THIS IS YOUR MISSION. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.

THIS IS YOUR DAY TO DAY AND THEN YOU ALSO HEAR THE COMPLAINTS AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BURNOUT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT TOO, BECAUSE YOU DO IT ALL THE TIME AND IT IT GETS DRAINING. IT IS EXHAUSTING WHAT IT CAN TAKE FROM YOU ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO I KNOW FOR ME PERSONALLY, I'LL JUST BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS.

WE INVITED SOME OF THE CITY LEADERS OUT FROM FRISCO BEFORE WE EVEN HAD THE MEETING, AND WE WERE TOURING DOWNTOWN WITH THEM AND PRIOR TO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A RESIDENT THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS, I LOOKED AT THE DOWNTOWN AS WE DON'T HAVE A DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE ONE STREET.

WHAT CAN WE REALLY DO WITH THIS? AND YES, WE CAN PUT MONEY IN THE PARK, BUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE? I PERSONALLY WAS NOT OVERLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I COULD NOT SEE IT BECAUSE I'D ALMOST BEEN A LITTLE BIT EMBITTERED TO IT OF WE DON'T HAVE THIS RIGHT, BUT SEEING THEM COME OUT AND I WAS JUST WATCHING AND THEY'RE STANDING IN THE STREET AND THEY'RE OBSERVING VETERANS PARK, AND YOU CAN SEE THE REAL JUST TURNING IN THEIR BRAIN OF EVERYTHING THAT THEY COULD SEE.

AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT IDEAS AND IT JUST IT KIND OF IT CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE OF I NEED TO BE MORE OPEN MINDED AND IF THEY CAN SEE THE POTENTIAL HERE, I NEED TO START VISION CASTING AND SEE WHAT IS THIS POTENTIAL HERE AND DRIVING AROUND WITH THE PEOPLE FROM FRISCO, WE DROVE THEM ALL OVER OUR CITY AND THEY CAN SEE SO MANY AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY THAT I JUST HADN'T SEEN BEFORE.

AND SO AGAIN, LEANING ON THOSE PARTNERSHIPS, THAT WAS HUGE.

TO BE ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE THAT COULD DREAM SOMETHING AND MAKE IT INTO A REALITY, AND THEY SEE IT HERE IN OUR CITY.

SO IT WAS VERY, ENCOURAGING AND EXCITING TO HAVE ALL OF THAT AT THAT MEETING AND THEN COME OUT OF THAT AND BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO.

WHEN ARE WE DOING THIS? WHEN ARE WE BUILDING THIS? AND SO I LOVE THAT YOU FELT THAT SAME WAY.

MARLO OR MR. OBERA BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREMELY EXCITING.

AND SO I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN HAVE THAT EXCITEMENT TOO, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL HERE AND REALLY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE'RE STARTING OVER BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE SO MANY GREAT THINGS. WE'RE BUILDING ON THAT, BUT WE DO KIND OF HAVE A SLATE THAT WE'RE BUILDING ON VERY QUICKLY AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT FOREVER.

SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING.

BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO FINISH WEIGHING IN.

YES. THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I TOOK FROM THE RETREAT WAS THE IDEA OF COLLABORATING WITH ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED.

YOU KNOW, YOUR TWO BOARDS, SCHOOL DISTRICT, ANYBODY THAT WE CAN THINK OF.

BECAUSE THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE A TRUST BUILDER WITH ALL OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OUR RESIDENTS.

I'VE WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO PRINCETON, THERE WASN'T VERY MUCH TRUST IN THE CITY HALL HERE.

AND SO PART OF ME WANTING TO BE HERE WAS TO BUILD THAT TRANSPARENCY AND BUILD THAT TRUST AND SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO COLLABORATE AT A REALLY GOOD LEVEL AND GET ONTO THE SAME PAGE WHERE WE HAVE THE SAME GOALS FOR THE CITY THEN THE CITY RESIDENTS ARE ONLY GOING TO SEE A HIGHER LEVEL OF TRUST WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S HARD TO FIND THESE DAYS IN GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S OUR GOAL, IS TO BE TRUSTWORTHY AND TRANSPARENT. SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO COLLABORATING AND BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL OF YOU AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT BEING NEW TO CITY COUNCIL AND RELATIVELY NEW TO PRINCETON, I DID NOT SEE PRINCETON AS MUCH.

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BUT FOR A PLACE TO LIVE TEMPORARILY AND THEN TO MOVE ON.

I BECAME INVOLVED BECAUSE I SAW HOW THE CITY WAS BEING STRUCTURED AND I THOUGHT, THIS IS MY HOME AND ONE DAY SOMEONE ASKS, WHAT IS PRINCETON KNOWN FOR? AND I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION WHEN WE WENT TO THE RETREAT AND JUST GETTING TO KNOW MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, REALIZING THE OPPORTUNITY THAT LIES BEFORE US, REALIZING THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BUILD PRINCETON IN A WAY THAT OUR CHILDREN AND THOSE WHO LIVE HERE WILL WANT TO BE WANT TO LIVE IN A PLACE THAT THEY ARE PROUD OF.

REALIZING THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND THEN SEEING THE POSSIBILITIES JUST REALLY EXCITED ME.

AND I AM TRULY ENERGIZED AND HAPPY AND REALLY WOULD WANT TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF WHATEVER WOULD, IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE PRINCETON GREAT.

WE HAVE A DOWNTOWN AND WHAT HAS IT BEEN USED FOR? THAT'S LIKE GOING TO BE THE SPICE OF PRINCETON.

WHEN WE GET TOGETHER, WE START COLLABORATING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE.

THE DIFFERENCE THAT WOULD NOT MAKE US FRISCO, MCKINNEY, PLANO, OR ANY OF THE CITIES CLOSE BY, BUT A FLAVOR THAT WILL BE JUST PRINCETON AND THAT IS EXCITING.

THAT'S VERY THRILLING TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF SOMETHING SO GREAT AND DYNAMIC TOGETHER AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOUTH, CDC, EDC, OUR FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE THIS PLACE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LITERALLY SAY, YES, PRINCETON IS HOME AND ANYONE WHO VISITS PRINCETON, THEY WILL WANT TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS OUR HOME.

ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE WANTS TO ADD? THEY'VE SAID IT ALL.

YEAH, WE'VE SAID IT ALL, I THINK.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO YEAR AFTER YEAR.

SO IN, YOU KNOW, UPCOMING TIMES THAT WE HOST THESE AGAIN, WE DEFINITELY WANT YOU GUYS TO BE A PART OF THAT AND HAVE A VOICE AND HAVE INPUT ON THAT.

AGAIN, IT'S JUST GOING TO STRENGTHEN THESE PARTNERSHIPS AND MAKE FOR SURE THAT WE ARE OPERATING AS ONE TEAM.

SO AGAIN, THAT IS THAT FOR THE STRATEGIC RETREAT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? IF NOT WE'LL MOVE ON.

NOPE. OKAY.

SO THAT'LL TAKE US TO K2, 2024-079 RECEIVE UPDATE ON PEDC FISCAL YEAR 23-24 GOALS AND WHILE HE'S COMING UP, I JUST WANT TO SAY IF HE'S DELIVERING THE GOALS, THAT'S FINE AND APPRECIATIVE.

BUT PLEASE, WE WANT TO HEAR INPUT FROM EVERYBODY.

SO IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING, JUST MAKE FOR SURE THAT YOU COME UP TO THE MIC.

SINCE THIS IS LIVE STREAMED.

THAT WAY EVERYONE AT HOME CAN HEAR YOU TOO.

BUT WE DO WANT IT TO BE INTERACTIVE, SO PLEASE COME UP.

MADAM MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL.

TERRANCE JOHNSON, EDC CHAIR.

I HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WERE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE EDC, BUT JUST PIGGYBACKING BASED ON WHAT Y'ALL SAID, WE ARE LOOKING MORE TOWARDS THE FUTURE, RIGHT? AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WERE WORKING ON PREVIOUSLY.

AS FOR THE EDC.

ONE OF THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES.

THE GOALS THAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE IS TO MAKE SURE THE DREAM THAT YOU ALL JUST SPOKE OF AND THAT VISION THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARD IS SAFEGUARDED AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? BY NOT REPEATING THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE AND HOPING FOR A DIFFERENT OUTCOME.

RIGHT, AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS SAFEGUARDING THE CITY, WHICH IS HAVING SOME OBJECTIVITY IN TERMS OF THESE DECISIONS, HAVING AN EXTRA SET OF EYES, A FRESH SET, IF YOU MAY, THAT ISN'T BLINDED OR HAVE THOSE BLINDERS ON THAT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COMPOUNDED WITH ALL THE COMPLAINTS.

SO THE INITIATIVE TO UPDATE THE BYLAWS TO CHANGE SOME OF THE STRUCTURE WE'VE COMPLETED THAT'S GOING AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE GOAL TO HIRE A CEO, SOMEBODY THAT WILL BE QUALIFIED TO KIND OF HELP ENHANCE THAT VISION AND GET THAT VISION GOING WITH THE EDC AS WELL AS THE CITY.

AND TO CONTROL SOME OF THE GROWTH.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE NOW IS THE BUSINESS PARK AND WHEN I JOINED THE EDC, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A GOAL OF MINE.

IT KIND OF HELPED TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF THE GROWTH.

IT WASN'T HARD TO SEE THAT IT WAS GROWING THE WAY THAT I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT WE DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY IT WAS DOING.

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SO I JOINED AND THE EDC PARK WAS THERE AND THERE WERE THINGS COMING TO EDC PARK THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH.

SO HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? WE CAN'T GO AND SCRAPE THOSE BUSINESSES AND DO IT.

WE HAVE TO GET A CLEAN START, A NEW CANVAS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE SET IN PLACE, IS TO LOOK AT LAND THAT WE CAN PURCHASE WITH THE EDC THROUGH THE TYPE A SALES TAX, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING THAT SALES TAX LAW AND PURCHASE THAT LAND SO THAT WE CAN CONTROL IT AND BE STRATEGIC WITH COUNCIL IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE CITY AS AN ENTIRETY.

IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT SILOED.

WE'RE NOT WORKING ON THE SIDE.

WE'RE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY GOALS NOW IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT FIRST SET OF EYES, HAVE SOMEBODY WORKING FULL TIME ON THAT, BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE, BUT IF WE WANT TO ACTUALLY ENHANCE THAT AND GET THAT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, IT WOULD BE I MEAN, IT WOULD PAY DIVIDENDS TO HAVE SOMEBODY PUTTING IN, YOU KNOW, 40, 50 PLUS HOURS A WEEK FOCUSING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE GOALS THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON NOW.

I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STEP RIGHT UP.

ANY BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO TALK? GOOD EVENING. YOU GUYS HEAR ME? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

JUST SIMILAR REITERATING WHAT YOU GUYS HEARD SO FAR.

AND ONE THING THAT I SAW FROM THE RETREAT, AND WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID AND TALKED ABOUT A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LEAN INTO. I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THE CITY OF FRISCO HAS KIND OF HELPED WITH YOU GUYS HAVING A MAYBE A RENEWED APPRECIATION OF THE CITY. I ALSO THINK THAT HAVING YOUR EAR TO THE GROUND HERE, YOU CAN GET THAT AS WELL, TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY AND I DON'T MEAN JUST ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND HEARING ALL THAT. I MEAN ACTUALLY TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE STORES AND HEARING WHAT THEY WANT IN THE CITY.

ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING GREAT.

I THINK THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE BIRTH OF SOMETHING REALLY CREATIVE, REALLY STRONG, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ALL COMMUNICATING.

I THINK IF WE CAN DO THIS WITH EVEN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY, I THINK WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL GOING ON.

I MEAN, AN EXAMPLE I WAS GIVING WAS NOT NECESSARILY THAT I HAVE TO BE HERE, BUT AN EXAMPLE IS I'M A FATHER HERE.

I HAVE KIDS THAT GO TO THE SCHOOLS HERE.

I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS THEIR OWN THING.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN VISION AND HOW COOL WOULD IT BE IF WE DID THINGS THAT COMPLIMENTED EACH OTHER? VERSUS WE FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING LATER AND THEN NOW WE CAN'T TRULY BENEFIT AS A CITY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER SIDE WAS DOING.

SO I THINK LEANING INTO WHAT WE TALK ABOUT, COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS, I THINK THAT WILL HELP STRENGTHEN THE CITY AND I FOR ONE I CONSIDER MYSELF A CREATIVE ENTREPRENEUR.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT DOWNTOWN, WHEN I LOOK AT THINGS, I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE BENEFIT THE CITY? AND AGAIN, LIKE, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S EYES.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME CREATIVE PEOPLE HERE AND I THINK IF WE LEAN INTO THE SKILL SETS, I THINK IF WE LEAN INTO SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE HERE, I THINK WE COULD CREATE AND DO SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNIQUE FOR PRINCETON, VERY BENEFICIAL FOR PRINCETON.

I KNOW THERE'S THINGS THAT WE DO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONION FESTIVAL.

I'LL BE WILLING TO WAGER THAT EVERYONE ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW DON'T KNOW THE ORIGIN.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO KIND OF BUILD UP THE CITY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LEAN INTO DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HANG OUT IN THE LIBRARY AND JUST TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE CITY FROM THE BEGINNING, LOOK AT I'M A BARBER AND A HAIRSTYLIST.

SO I WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE THE ORIGINAL BARBERSHOP, TO SEE HOW DOWNTOWN LOOKED.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY HISTORICAL THINGS IN PLACE, BUT WE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY GREAT HERE WITH THE RESOURCES AND THE SKILL SETS AND THE CREATIVITY THAT WE HAVE HERE RIGHT NOW.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU GUYS, AS I'M DOING MYSELF, TO REALLY LEAN INTO THE RESOURCES AND THE SKILL SETS AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CITY. THANK YOU.

I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU.

I KNOW THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED, THAT WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING MORE TOWN HALL MEETINGS WITH OUR ACTUAL CONSTITUENTS AND WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE.

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THAT WAY WE DO GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM THEM AND I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT SOMETIMES, RIGHT? SO INVITING PEOPLE UP HERE TO CITY HALL, HOW MANY YOU THINK ARE GOING TO SHOW UP? FIVE, RIGHT? BUT IF MAYBE WE CAN INCORPORATE SOME TYPE OF VIRTUAL ELEMENT TO THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE DO LIVE STREAM AND IT'S INTERACTIVE, WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS FROM HOME BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE WORLD OPERATES.

RIGHT, AND THINK ABOUT IT ON THE CORPORATE SIDE, ARE WE, YOU KNOW, HAVING HUGE MEETUPS ON THE CORPORATE SIDE? NO, YOU'RE DOING IT ON TEAMS, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE HAVING VIRTUAL MEETINGS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO PLAN TO REPLICATE AS WELL, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND START GETTING MORE COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WAY, AND DOING SURVEYS AND REALLY TAPPING INTO THAT, TALKING TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WHEN WE ARE MAKING THESE PLANS AND REDEFINING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO MAKE FOR SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, BUT THAT WE ARE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.

SO NO. EXCELLENT POINT, AND I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU.

ANYONE ELSE ON THE EDC SIDE? OKAY, THEN WE WILL MOVE TO K3, 2024-080.

RECEIVE UPDATE ON PCDC FISCAL YEAR 23-24 GOALS.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD BEING ON THIS SIDE OF IT.

I'M USED TO BEING OVER THERE, SO YEAH, SO.

SO I THINK THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TERRANCE COVERED, THAT I THINK BOTH BOARDS HAVE REALLY BEEN FOCUSING ON A LOT HAS REALLY BEEN ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TYPE OF EXPERTISE IN PLACE.

OUR OVERALL GOAL FOR THE CDC HAS BEEN REALLY TO SUPPORT THE EDC AS WELL AS FOCUS ON QUALITY OF LIFE INITIATIVES AND THINGS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE POSITIVE IMPACTS FOR THE COMMUNITY OVERALL.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OUR TRACK TO ACHIEVE AND I CAN CALL OUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS FOR YOU GUYS AND THEN I'LL MENTION SOME INITIATIVES THAT WE DO HAVE UNDERWAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO.

BUT I WANT TO KIND OF PREFACE THAT BY SAYING THAT OUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW HAS REALLY BEEN KIND OF REALLY GLEANING FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN FROM THE COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS REALLY GETTING EXPERTISE IN PLACE, HAVING OUR OWN STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION COMING OFF OF WHAT YOU GUYS PROVIDE TO US AND BEING ABLE TO SAY WHAT INITIATIVES ALIGNED TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, IS THE OVERALL GOAL FOR THE CITY COLLECTIVELY.

SO THAT IS THAT'S REALLY BEEN WHERE OUR GOAL IS AND WE'VE BEEN SITTING STILL AND TRYING NOT TO TURN, YOU KNOW, WHEELS WITHOUT HAVING THOSE.

RIGHT LEVERS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT PROPERLY.

SO BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH SO FAR IS OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE COST OF TEMPORARY FIELDS FOR THE RECREATION CENTER.

I THINK MOST RECENTLY, I THINK SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN REGARDS TO COMMUNITY PREPAREDNESS, LIKE THE BASIC CPR COURSES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER THE CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY CIVILIANS RESPONSE TO ACTIVE SHOOTER EVENTS.

WE HAD THE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM PROGRAM, THE CERT PROGRAM.

WE ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED ABOUT $75,000 TO THAT PROGRAM TO ENSURE THAT THOSE INITIATIVES COULD GET UNDERWAY AND THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY OUR OWN CDC EDC COORDINATOR, DESHAUNA WALKER. WE ALSO RECENTLY WERE ABLE TO FUND THE DRONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS RECALL THAT, BUT WE PURCHASED A DRONE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IS THE FIRST DRONE IN THE STATE, AND THE CAMERA IS THE FIRST IN THE NATION AND SO THAT WAS A PRETTY COOL THING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BE A PART OF AND FUND AS WELL.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAD ON OUR TRACK TO, TO ASSIST WITH SOME OF THE PARKS AND REC INITIATIVES.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH MEALS ON WHEELS AS WELL AS YOU GUYS KNOW, RECENTLY, THE FITNESS COURT THAT WAS RECENTLY YOU KNOW, AND THE RIBBON CUTTING EVENT THAT HAPPENED WITH THAT AS WELL WE ALSO SUPPORTED THE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT BY ISSUING ABOUT $50,000 TOWARDS THEIR SRT, SWAT EQUIPMENT, AND 5000 OF THAT IS GEARED TOWARDS ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE SOME SWAG, THAT THEY CAN GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO DO SOME OUTREACH, TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO BUT TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IS WE'VE ASKED FOR OUR COORDINATOR TO START RESEARCH INTO A FAMILY EDUCATION FACILITY. SO I WENT AND SPENT PROBABLY WAY TOO MUCH TIME.

YOU'VE ASKED MY WIFE OR DIGGING INTO WHAT A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION DOES AND ACTUALLY LOOKED UP THE TITLE AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE SUBSECTIONS AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS AND STARTED TO SEE THAT A LOT OF IT IS AROUND KIND OF DEALING WITH BLIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY AND POVERTY AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND SO THINKING AROUND HOW WE COULD IMPACT EDUCATION AND LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES WITH LIKE RECEIVING A GED OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO LOOK

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INTO HAVING A FAMILY EDUCATION FACILITY, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY HANDLE EDUCATION FROM INCEPTION ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO COMPLETION, RIGHT FROM BABY, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO OLD AGE AND SO TO YOUR POINT, MR. LONG, HAVING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A FACILITY WHERE WE COULD PARTNER WITH ISD, PARTNER WITH COLLEGES AROUND US, AND WHAT WE FOUND, AND WE'RE HAVING TO LOOK INTO FURTHER, IS THAT WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE GENERAL EDUCATION CLASSES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND TWC OFFERS GRANTS FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE THEM AND GET FUNDING TO HELP US DO SO.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIG EXPANSE IN THE WORKFORCE IN THE AREA OF STEM, AND SO WE WANT TO HAVE A STEM CAPACITY MODEL AT ALL AGES, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE SEEN THEM DONE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE LIKE THE ENGINEERING ASPECT OF IT, UTILIZING LEGO BLOCKS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND SO SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT I FOUND AND LOOKING INTO THESE MEASURES IS AROUND THE ADULT EDUCATION ASPECTS OF IT, TWC HAS RESOURCES AVAILABLE WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO THAT, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 35 MILES OUT.

RIGHT? SO IF WE BRING SOMETHING LIKE THAT CLOSER TO PRINCETON, WHERE SOMEONE MAY HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO SETTLE FOR AND I'M NOT, THIS IS NOT BASHING WALMART, BUT MAY HAVE TO SETTLE FOR A WALMART JOB OR SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, LESS OF A SKILL SET THAT THEY CAN BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THESE.

FACILITIES, MAYBE GET THEIR GED, GET SOME ADULT EDUCATION RESOURCES AND BE ABLE TO.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE FIND SOME WORK THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE THEIR INCOME, INCREASE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO THAT'S ONE INITIATIVE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING DECIDED TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY IN REGARDS SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT I THINK THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO AGAIN, AND A LOT OF THESE ARE STILL KIND OF BEING RESEARCHED, AND I'LL SPEAK TO ONE OF THEM THAT I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT, WHICH I FEEL LIKE THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE SOME OF THE VENDORS THAT WE SEE THAT HAPPEN TO SHOW UP AT OUR 4TH OF JULY EVENTS, AT THE ONION FESTIVAL, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND MAYBE HAVE A FARMERS MARKET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE WITH VENDOR STATIONS, FOOD TRUCK SETUPS AND HAVE ACTUALLY PART OF MY OWN RESEARCH.

THIS IS NOTHING THAT THAT'S OFFICIAL YET, BUT PART OF MY OWN RESEARCH.

I'VE STARTED TALKING TO SOME OF THE VENDORS THAT ARE DOWN THERE OFF OF 380 AND ASKING IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN, WOULD YOU CONSIDER MOVING? THERE'S NOTHING OFFICIAL, BUT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAME TO PRINCETON, WOULD YOU COME? AND I HAVE A, MY GLOVE BOX AND MY CAR IS FULL OF CARDS AND PHONE NUMBERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT SAID, YEAH, I'LL COME IF YOU GUYS BUILD THAT, I'LL PICK UP AND MOVE AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A SPACE FOR THAT FOR THE VENDORS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE, AND THEN MAYBE BRING SOME VENDORS FROM OTHER PLACES TO COME DOWN AND THEN THAT CREATES, YOU KNOW, AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND IT ALSO SUPPORTS OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, GIVES THEM A DIRECT LOCATION TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND DO SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS.

SO I'LL PAUSE THERE.

I HAVE OTHER THINGS ON THE LIST, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP THE TIME, AND I'LL GIVE IT TO MY VICE CHAIR TO BE ABLE TO SHARE SOME THINGS AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL MEMBERS APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US OUT TODAY.

I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT MR. RUTLEDGE SAID ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND MOVING FORWARD, A BIG PART OF AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS QUALITY OF LIFE.

HOW CAN WE HELP ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE TO OUR CITIZENS, OUR BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY? AND ONE THING THAT WE'VE TAKEN FULL FLEDGE ON IN 24 IS CREATING A GRANT RUBRIC.

WHEREAS A FAIR PROCESS ACROSS THE BOARD WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO ONLINE, APPLY FOR GRANTS.

I THINK A BIG PART OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS NOT JUST WHAT WE CAN FUND INSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT WHAT OUTSIDE ENTITIES CAN COME IN AND DO.

LIKE MR. LONG WAS TALKING ABOUT PARTNERING WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

THERE ARE TONS OF THINGS AND RESOURCES THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS.

THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO PUT ON.

THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE, THEY HAVE THE PEOPLE ON STAFF TO DO IT, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING AND THE DOLLARS TO MOVE THROUGH.

THEY HAVE THE FACILITIES.

SO CREATING A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND WORKING THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES GIVES US MORE PROGRAM, DIFFERENT OUTCOMES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR CITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN AND BE A PART OF.

SO CREATING THAT GRANT RUBRIC WORKING COLLABORATIONS, GETTING TOGETHER WITH THE OUTSIDE ENTITIES TO COME IN AND KNOW THAT, OKAY, PRINCETON DOES HAVE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THERE ARE GRANTS THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN BE A PART OF TO HELP THE CITIZENS AND HELP THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S ONE BIG PART OF WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD.

FOR ONE THING IS GETTING A CEO IN PLACE AS WELL.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF THAT CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE AND GET THE WORD OUT THERE.

EVERYBODY THAT'S ON OUR BOARD, THEY'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS.

WE HAVE ONE COORDINATOR THAT WE WORK WITH THAT JUGGLES TWO BOARDS.

THAT CAN BE A LOT OF TIMES.

SO GETTING SOMEBODY IN PLACE THAT, HEY, WE HAVE THESE IDEAS, WE HAVE THESE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS TO REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE OUTCOMES AND THINGS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS AND YOU LOOK AT HOW ALL OF THEIR STUFF IS SET UP, IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE FRISCO, BUT WE CAN LEARN A LOT FROM THEM.

MCKINNEY HAS A GREAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

NO, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE COMMUNITY, BUT WE CAN LEARN A LOT FROM THEM.

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THEY HAVE A LOT OF PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE ALREADY THAT WE CAN UTILIZE.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HELP THEIR CITIZENS.

THEY GIVE THEM DIFFERENT RESOURCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE THE STEM PROGRAM AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT OUTCOMES.

SO REALLY WORKING AND PUTTING THOSE THINGS IN PARTNERSHIP SO WE CAN REALLY TAKE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, TAKE THE NEEDLE AND MOVE IT FROM STEP A TO STEP B.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE FROM THE CDC BOARD WANT TO COME UP AND ADD ANYTHING TO ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN COVERED? I'M GETTING THUMBS UP.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? NOW I WANT TO THANK YOU. THAT WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THE RUBRIC THAT YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED ON.

I THINK THAT WAS HUGE, THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN WEIGH THOSE DECISIONS ON, IT'S CONCRETE, IT'S BLACK AND WHITE, AND IT JUST KIND OF TAKES OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, DO WE DO IT? DO WE NOT DO IT FACTOR.

SO I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL THAT YOU DID IT I LOVE BLACK AND WHITE.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUOUS WORK FOR THE CITY, FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE, FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

IT'S HUGE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE THINKING OF MOVING TO PRINCETON, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT THE DRIVERS ECONOMIC.

WE HAVE TO HAVE MONEY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A TAX BASE.

BUT WHAT DO PEOPLE LOOK AT? THEY LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FIRST.

RIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP IN THAT AND WHAT YOU DO FOR IT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE WE MOVE ON OKAY THEN WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE TO K4, 2024-081 RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON FUTURE GOALS FOR PEDC.

SO I WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR ALL OF COUNCIL AND MR. CHAIRMAN IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD THEN WE CAN KIND OF DISCUSS THIS COLLABORATIVELY.

AGAIN, IF ANYONE FROM THE EDC BOARD WANTS TO COME UP WHILE THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE HAVING, PLEASE DO SO.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE TALKING INTO THE MIC.

SO COUNCIL, THIS IS A TIME FOR US THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM CLEAR DIRECTION FROM US ON WHAT WE WANT THEM TO SEE FUTURE WISE FROM JUST OUR PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT WE'VE TAKEN FROM THE STRATEGIC RETREAT AND HOW THAT APPLIES TO THEIR BOARD.

I KNOW FOR ME, I THINK TONIGHT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE MOVING FORWARD.

JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE DECISION THAT WE MADE BASED ON EXECUTIVE SESSION, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CONTINUE THOSE TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS, THAT IT IS SOMETHING JOINT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, THAT WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE HOLISTICALLY AS A CITY AND AS EDC, THAT WE CAN REALLY SUPPORT EACH OTHER IN THAT AVENUE? SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE [INAUDIBLE] CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAPPEN.

AND REALLY FOR BOTH BOARDS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT IT AGAIN, I DON'T LIKE AND THIS IS A PERSONAL FEELING OF MINE, SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY.

PERSONALLY, I DON'T LIKE THE FEELING OF [INAUDIBLE] THAT IT IS EDC, IT IS CDC, AND IT IS COUNCIL.

WE ALL LIVE HERE.

WE'RE ALL RESIDENTS HERE AND FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE ALL FRIENDS.

WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF HERE AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT UNITY TO BE THERE, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND THOSE COLLABORATIONS WHERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, A MEETING OF THE MINDS WHERE WE'RE ALL GETTING TOGETHER AND THINKING CREATIVELY OR CREATIVELY ON HOW DO WE DO THIS MOVING FORWARD? WHAT IS THE BEST WAY FORWARD? AND SO THAT'S THAT'S MY GOAL FOR EDC IS HOW DO WE SUPPORT CITY AND EDC COLLECTIVELY, THAT IT'S NOT YOUR BOARD AND OUR COUNCIL? WHAT ARE WE DOING AS RESIDENTS TO HELP OUR CITY PUSH FORWARD? SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

BUT BOARD OR COUNCIL, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD TO THAT? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LEAVING OR COMING OUT OF THE RETREAT MADE US REALIZE THAT PRINCETON WAS BEING BUILT IN A PARTICULAR WAY, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO SIT BACK OR STEP BACK AND DECIDE WHETHER THE WAY WE WERE BEING BUILT IS BEST FOR PRINCETON.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MR. MASHBURN AND MR. LAND WHO HAVE JOINED STAFF HERE AND ALONG WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAME IN TO PROVIDE INSIGHTS SO THAT WE COULD SEE PRINCETON IN A DIFFERENT WAY, WE REALIZED THAT WITH SOME THINGS WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, AND IT MIGHT SEEM AS IF WE ARE PEDALING BACKWARDS, BUT IT IS FOR GOOD REASON AND IT IS NOT.

IT IS TAKING THAT APPROACH WHERE WE BUILD QUALITY METRICS INTO WHAT WE ARE DOING.

WE STRATEGICALLY PLAN, WE FORECAST FIVE, TEN, 15, 50 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE SO THAT AS WE BUILD PRINCETON, WE COULD BUILD IT BETTER AND I WAS REALLY YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY HAPPY AND ENCOURAGED TO HEAR ALL THAT YOU BOTH BOARDS ARE DOING TO HELP BUILD PRINCETON JUST TO STRATEGIC WAYS IN WHICH YOU'RE GOING ABOUT DOING IT.

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AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE TO BUILD PRINCETON IN A WAY THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD TO LIVE IN THIS CITY.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.

I'M GOING TO SPEAK PRETTY OPENLY HERE.

I DON'T LIKE IN THE INTEREST OF NOT HAVING SILOS AND THE INTEREST OF EVERYBODY BEING COLLABORATIVE, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

THERE WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT CAME FROM COUNCIL REGARDING THE MORATORIUM, THE BUILDING MORATORIUM THAT WENT TO EDC, THAT WAS TABLED.

APPARENTLY THERE WAS A LACK OF COMMUNICATION IN THAT BECAUSE IT KIND OF SIDELINED SOMETHING THAT ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO PREVENT ANYTHING FROM HAPPENING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE? GREAT QUESTION.

WHEN WE HAD OUR NEW STAFF COME ON MR. MASHBURN AND MR. LANE AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SPEAK OPENLY ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT WE HAD A DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE THAT INITIATIVE TOOK PLACE AND ONE OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GIVEN IN THERE, WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT DIRECTION.

SO WE WERE CLEAR BOTH BOARDS WERE CLEAR ON THAT DIRECTION AS FAR AS THAT PERSONNEL AND WHO THAT PERSONNEL WOULD REPORT TO AND HOW THAT DIRECTION WOULD GO FROM THERE.

SO THAT COMMUNICATION WAS TO BE CHANNELED THROUGH BOTH BOARDS AND WE WEREN'T TO BE SILOED.

WE HAD A LINE ITEM THAT WAS TABLED, AND IT KIND OF HALTED MOST OF THAT.

SO THE I'M TRYING TO I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN OR CAN'T SAY ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE VERBIAGE HERE, BUT I WOULD JUST ADVISE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT IN THE WEEDS OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND VIOLATE ANYTHING THERE.

SO I THINK WE'RE ALL PRETTY PRIVY TO WHAT HAPPENED IN EXECUTIVE LIKE WE'VE TALKED TO OUR ATTORNEYS ABOUT IT AS WELL.

WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

BUT JUST MOVING FORWARD, HOW CAN WE HAVE BETTER LINES OF COMMUNICATION THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE A VISION AND WE ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, EXECUTE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE BOARDS AND COUNCIL.

TO MY OPINION, I CAN SPEAK FOR ME, AND ANYONE FROM BOARD CAN COME IN AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IS THAT I THINK WE HAVE WE RECEIVED CLEAR DIRECTION AND WE WERE DOING THAT.

TO PREVENT THAT IS TO HAVE THAT STOP GAP, TO HAVE THAT SOMEBODY THAT WILL BE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE COUNSEL THAT REPORTS BACK TO THE BOARD AND GIVES US THAT DIRECTION, AND NOT NECESSARILY SOMEBODY WAITING IN THE WEEDS.

SO THE WHEN WE STARTED THIS, THE OBJECTIVE WAS TO BE COLLABORATIVE.

THIS WOULD GIVE YOU GUYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A AN EMPLOYEE THAT REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL, SO THAT INFORMATION WOULD COME DIRECTLY FROM THAT EMPLOYEE TO THIS BOARD TO GIVE US THAT DIRECTION.

SO THAT VISION WOULD BE PASSED THROUGH TO THAT PERSON, TO THE BOARD AND THAT WAS THAT WOULD FILL THE STOP GAP THAT WILL REMOVE THE BOTTLENECK THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY JUST A FEW THINGS, AND IN LOTS OF TIMES I RELY ON MY PAST EMPLOYMENT WITH THE COUNTY.

BUT JUST LIKE OUR COUNCIL HERE AND ANY TYPE OF GOVERNMENT THAT IN THE COUNTY AND LIKE WE DO HERE NOW, WE'VE GOT CORE VALUES AND THE TOP PRIORITIES AND SAME AS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

BUT THEY HAD A MISSION STATEMENT AND THEY HAD CERTAIN THINGS WE HAD TO DO.

AND THAT'S THE WAY WE DEVELOPED OUR BUDGET.

EVERYTHING WE DID IN OUR MY DEPARTMENT HAD TO BE GOING TOWARD THAT AND IN SAYING THAT IT'S LIKE A BAND.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ALL EVER PLAYED IN A BAND, A SCHOOL BAND OR ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY STARTING OUT, LIKE IN SIXTH GRADE BAND OR SEVENTH GRADE BAND THERE.

BUT YOU GO OVER TO THE BAND HALL.

THEY'RE ALL THE DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS ARE IN DIFFERENT ROOMS PRACTICING.

THEY'RE PRACTICING A SONG.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE NOTES, YOU KNOW, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND VERY GOOD.

JUST THEM TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, JUST THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE MISSING A LOT OF.

BUT THEN WHENEVER THEY COME TOGETHER, THEY PLAY IN CONCERT, THEY PLAY TOGETHER AND THAT'S THE WAY WE HAVE TO BE AS A CITY, NOT ONLY AS THE COUNCIL UP HERE, BUT EVERY BOARD AND EVERY EMPLOYEE HERE IN THE CITY NEEDS TO BE ON THE SAME MUSIC PAGE.

WE NEED TO BE PLAYING THE SAME SONG, AND THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOCIAL MEDIA.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS MAKING COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE DON'T NEED TO BE BASHING EACH OTHER, BASHING THE COUNCIL BASHING DECISIONS MADE.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE POSITIVE.

POSITIVE FOR OUR CITY, POSITIVE FOR THE GROWTH.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN ACHIEVE OUR GOALS THAT WE HAVE AND STICK WITH OUR CORE VALUES.

AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ON THAT.

BUT YEAH, THE GOALS AND THINGS, I THINK THAT EVERY BOARD NEEDS TO ADOPT THESE CORE VALUES AND LOOK AT THE PRIORITIES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL

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HAS, AND WE NEED TO BASE EVERYTHING WE DO IN OUR CITY AND OUR GROWTH ON THIS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO PROSPER AND GET OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW, I HEARD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT VISIONS ABOUT THE AROUND THE SQUARE DOWN HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE A SQUARE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS HAD THE VISION OF I'D LIKE TO HAVE PURCHASED PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES.

FOR THE CITY IN DEVELOP A SQUARE BECAUSE ALL THE COMMUNITIES AROUND HERE THAT HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON HAVE A SQUARE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S I THINK BECAUSE IT'S JUST A PLACE TO GO TO, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I THINK WE'VE GOT GOOD LEADERSHIP TEAM ON BOARD AND WITH THAT AND WITH THE COOPERATIVE EFFORT FROM EVERYONE INVOLVED AND ALL THE BOARDS, I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS.

MAYOR, THE ONE THING I THINK WE DO NEED TO SEE ABOUT IS A REMOTE MICROPHONE.

WHEN WE HAVE THESE, MAYBE A COUPLE OF THEM DOWN HERE SO THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME, THEY'RE JUST CURRENTLY MISSING IN ACTION.

SO YES, WE WILL LOCATE THEM.

WELL I HEARD THE WORD TABLE AND SO FROM OUR LAST BOARD MEETING THAT WE HAD YES, I ASKED FOR SOMETHING TO BE TABLED.

AND WHAT I THINK THAT OUR BOARD NEEDS IS RESPECT AND IF SOMEONE BRINGS SOMETHING TO US THAT THEY WANT US TO PASS, SOMEONE FROM THE CITY NEEDS TO BE THERE TO NOT JUST THE PERSON THAT'S THE COORDINATOR, BUT THE ACTUAL PERSON THAT WANTS THIS ITEM.

THEY NEED TO BE THERE TO EXPLAIN IT AND I THINK THE REASON WE TABLED IT, AND I'M ALSO DON'T KNOW ALL THE RULES.

SO BASICALLY WE NEEDED MORE EXPLANATION AND THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS I HAD FOR THE LAWYER FOR THE COUNCIL THAT WE HAD, AND HE COULD GIVE US SOMEWHAT OF A INFORMATION, BUT HE COULDN'T GIVE US THE WHOLE THING.

SO I TAKE THE HIT THERE FOR TABLING BECAUSE I WAS INSTRUCTED WHENEVER I LAST YEAR, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, LAST YEAR I DIDN'T I WHATEVER WAS EXPLAINED, I SAID YES AND I JUST WENT ALONG.

THIS YEAR I'VE DECIDED I'M NOT A YES PERSON.

I'M GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT IS MY CITY TOO.

I'M NOT AGAINST ANYTHING, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

WE WERE ALSO TOLD BY WHEN WE HAD OUR CONSULTANT IN THAT WE'RE A CORPORATION.

SO THINGS THAT WE SAY AND THINGS THAT WE AGREE TO CAN BE HELD AGAINST US.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SOMEONE GOES BACK AND READS WHAT I SAID, I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXPLANATION AND THE REASON WHY IF I TABLE ANYTHING OR I SAY YES OR I SAY NO, I PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT.

IT'S NOT, I'M NOT A YES PERSON ANY LONGER.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE WANT IS AN EDC BOARD IS THE RESPECT TO COME AND TELL US, GIVE US THE PROS AND THE CONS.

ALL OF US ARE VOLUNTEERS.

WE DON'T SIT AND STUDY THIS LIKE WE DO OUR JOB EVERY DAY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE BEST.

AS TERRENCE SAID, WE ARE SECOND EYES THAT WE CAN BRING SOMETHING MAYBE BACK TO YOU AND WE WERE HOPING THAT WHEN WE GET ANOTHER PERSON TO WORK WITH US THAT WE CAN WE WON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING EVERY MONDAY NIGHT TO GO THROUGH SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO.

THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CONDENSATE AND IT WON'T BE A VOLUNTEER BASIS.

IT'S GOING TO BE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS AND DOES THAT FOR US.

THANK YOU. WELL, I WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A HIT FOR YOU TABLING IT.

I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT STRAIGHTFORWARD EXPLANATION AND WHAT DID YOU NEED? FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, YOU NEEDED CITY REPRESENTATION, SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE PROS AND THE CONS AND FOR FOR UNDERSTANDING.

SO I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION.

THANK YOU. QUESTION.

SO IN THE RETREAT, THAT ITEM THAT WAS GIVEN TO US WAS THAT EXPLAINED TO YOU GUYS IN THE RETREAT, OR WAS THERE A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED WHERE IT WAS PUBLIC AND IT WAS EXPLAINED PUBLICLY IN A MEETING? THAT ITEM THAT WE THAT WAS TABLED.

SO IN THE RETREAT WE DID DISCUSS THE NECESSITY OF THAT.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN QUALIFIERS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE TO THE ATTORNEYS TO BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY BEING ABLE TO HAVE A MORATORIUM.

SO WE DID DISCUSS THAT IN THE RETREAT.

NOW, THE SPECIFICS OF AND WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE FOR YOU GUYS, I'M NOT CERTAIN OF THAT.

I DON'T ACTUALLY EVEN REMEMBER.

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BUT YES, THAT WAS DISCUSSED THERE.

OKAY. I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT AT A BOARD MEETING PRIOR TO THE RETREAT AS WELL, THOUGH.

YEAH. MY UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY. MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO WASN'T THERE THE STAFF LIAISON BRIEFED ON THE PARTICULARS OF THAT VENTURE.

SO THEN IT'S BEHOLDEN OR IT'S DEPENDENT ON THAT STAFF MEMBER THEN TO INFORM EDC.

SO THAT STAFF MEMBER OH, NO. GO AHEAD.

SO THE STAFF MEMBER DID PROVIDE THE BRIEF INTERVIEW, BUT THE QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAD WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH IN TERMS OF THE COMPANY ITSELF THAT SHE'D HAD, SHE WASN'T PRIVY TO.

SO THEY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIRM.

WHAT HAVE THEY DONE? THESE THINGS THAT COULDN'T BE ANSWERED EVEN THROUGH OUR ATTORNEY.

SO THOSE WERE THINGS THAT AND I THINK IT WAS A RESPECT FACTOR TO THE POINT THAT THERE WAS THE.

I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

I'LL SAY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY IS THAT THE PERCEPTION WAS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO RUBBER STAMP IT AND NOT ASK QUESTIONS WHEN WE HAD QUESTIONS.

SO THAT WAS THE FEAR OF THE BOARD, AND IT WAS TABLED FOR THAT REASON.

I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT ALSO, HOPEFULLY THIS ISN'T SPEAKING OUT OF TURN.

IT APPEARED NOT TO BE IN OUR REALM, SO WE NEEDED SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THAT AND OUR COUNSEL SAID, WELL, IT CAN BE DONE THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, IN THESE GRAY AREAS AND SO WE WANTED A REPRESENTATION.

TO ME, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEONE THERE TO THAT HAD IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.

EITHER THAT PERSON THAT'S ASKING FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT CONSULTANT AND I THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE BREAKDOWN IS.

THE CONSULTANT IS JUST THE MEAN TO GET THERE DOESN'T BENEFIT THE CONSULTANT TO DO THE WORK.

THAT'S JUST THE ACTUAL WORK.

SO THE PERSON THAT WAS REQUESTING IT WAS US, RIGHT? THAT WAS THERE WAS NO OBJECTIVE.

THERE WAS NO ONE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

THE CONSULTANT WASN'T THERE.

THE WE ONLY HAD OUR COORDINATOR THERE AND THAT'S IT AND THERE WERE QUESTIONS SHE COULD NOT ANSWER.

SO I TABLED IT, AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS THE ONLY THE BEST THING TO DO.

I THINK THIS IS A LESSONS LEARNED.

WE CANNOT GO BACK IN THE PAST AND CHANGE ANYTHING.

TODAY IS A NEW DAY.

IT'S DIFFERENT. MAYBE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TO YOU IF THERE IS WITH THE AGENDA BEING RECEIVED AHEAD OF THE MEETING, REACH OUT IF MORE INFORMATION IS NEEDED, JUST REQUEST THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED SO THAT WE COULD BE ON THE SAME BOARD.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT COMMUNICATED TO YOU? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A PRE MEETING BEFORE THE MEETING? JUST WHATEVER WAY IS BEST.

I THINK HOW IT WAS HANDLED TONIGHT WAS FANTASTIC.

IT WAS AS A PROJECT.

SO I'M A CONSULTANT, A BUSINESS CONSULTANT BY TRADE AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO TO STREAMLINE THINGS AND KEEP EVERYBODY IN THE KNOW IS WHEN WE HAVE KICKOFF MEETINGS, PROJECT TITLES, WE HAD A PROJECT TITLE TO WORK FROM.

WE KNEW THAT WHEN IT CAME ACROSS OUR DESK.

THIS WAS FROM PROJECT A, B, C AND SO WHEN IT GOT THERE, WE AUTOMATICALLY KNEW WHAT THAT WAS.

SO I THINK TONIGHT WAS A TURN OF EVENTS TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF A MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS THAT WOULD HELP US MOVING FORWARD.

SO YEAH, I WAS WHEN I SAW THE TITLE, I SAID THIS WAS THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE.

SO THAT RIGHT THERE WAS AN IMPROVEMENT WITHIN ITSELF AND I WANT TO SAY, I WILL NOT CHANGE MY MIND OF ANYTHING I DID.

SO I'M NOT GOING BACK AND I WILL DO THAT IN THE FUTURE IF IT EVER IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

SO YOU APPOINTED ME.

SO YOU MAY NOT WANT ME ANYMORE, BUT I WANT TO LIVE FOR WHAT'S WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GO BACK.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BACKTRACK.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, MISTER JOHNSON.

I THINK THAT MORE MEETINGS LIKE THIS WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THINGS.

I THINK THAT'S JUST GOING TO BENEFIT US MORE TO AVOID SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO AND I ACTUALLY WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR NOT JUST RUBBER STAMPING SOMETHING.

I THINK WE ALL NEED TO ADOPT THAT MENTALITY OF JUST BECAUSE IT COMES UP, WE DON'T IMMEDIATELY HAVE TO VOTE YES ON IT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS.

IF YOU FEEL THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT MOVE TO MAKE, THEN PLEASE MAKE MAKE YOUR VOICE KNOWN THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT MOVE TO MAKE.

SO THAT'S FINE, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO OVERCOME IS HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT IN THE FUTURE, WHERE WE'RE ALL OPERATING WITH THE SAME KNOWLEDGE?

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WE DON'T ALL HAVE TO OPERATE WITH THE SAME OPINION, BUT WE CAN ALL OPERATE WITH THE SAME KNOWLEDGE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT NOW.

SO WE'RE FINE.

YOU'RE FINE. WE DON'T WANT YOU [INAUDIBLE] THAT POINT, WE HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS.

WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS LAST SELECTION PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE APPLICATIONS, LOOKED AT EVERYBODY'S QUALIFICATIONS AND WE WANTED TO HAVE THINKERS. WE WANTED TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAD INDEPENDENT THOUGHT SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

SO WE DEFINITELY. BUT I THINK THIS WHOLE THING, WHAT LETS US KNOW THAT IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING A ROOM FULL OF WELL THOUGHT PEOPLE, WE NEED TO BE MORE COMMUNICATIVE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE BRING FORWARD, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO THANK YOU MISS SHEEHAN.

THANK YOU, TERRENCE, FOR THAT INFORMATION AND I WANT TO ADD TO THAT TOO MISTER LAND AND I HAVE A STANDING MEETING.

WE'VE MET AND WE TALKED, SO THAT WILL ALSO HELP.

Y'ALL KNOW HE'S AN INCREDIBLE GUY.

SO HE AND I MET AND WE TALKED AND KIND OF WORKED ON SOME THINGS AS WELL.

SO WE'RE ALL LIKE, WHAT? COUNCILMAN DEFFIBAUGH SAY THERE ARE ONE BAND, ONE SOUND.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE GOAL, I LOVE IT.

I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A SONG AND MISS SHEEHAN SONG YOU MENTIONED ABOUT.

YOU MAY GO BACK AND CHANGE WHERE WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR SOMETHING IN PRINCETON.

SO IF YOU'RE ON THE INNOVATION OF TIME TRAVEL, LET'S DO IT.

MICHIGAN? I PROBABLY GOT THE RECORD OF TABLING MORE THINGS UP HERE THAN ANYBODY.

SO, YEAH I APPRECIATE IT.

IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU UNDERSTAND OR SOMETHING YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ON OR CLARITY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

OKAY. YEAH.

COME UP TO THE MIC SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] HONORABLE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I THINK THAT WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IS GROWING PAINS.

OKAY AND, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR VISION OF BRINGING THE TWO BOARDS TOGETHER, I THINK WAS PROFOUND AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT TO I THINK MOVE FROM THIS POINT ON IS DEALING WITH EACH OTHER FROM A POSITION OF MUTUAL RESPECT AND RECOGNITION.

OKAY AND I WANT TO PREFACE THIS POINT IS THAT THESE BOARDS, THESE TWO BOARDS HERE, I THINK, BRING A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON AND PRINCETON SHOULD BE BLESSED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND IT'S GOING TO BE Y'ALL'S CHALLENGE, ALL RIGHT, TO GET THE BEST OUT OF US, AND GETTING THE BEST OUT OF US MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER. COLLABORATIVE AND PROMOTING MUTUAL RESPECT AND RECOGNITION.

FOR WHAT EACH PERSON BRINGS TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON [INAUDIBLE].

ANYTHING ELSE FOR EDC? [INAUDIBLE]. NOTHING FURTHER.

IF NOT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT.

AGENDA ITEM K5, 2024-082 RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON FUTURE GOALS FOR PCDC.

MR. RUTLEDGE, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT AND COUNCIL. WHAT KIND OF OPEN IT UP THE SAME WAY AGAIN, JUST FOR DIRECTION FOR THE CDC? I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE SAID FOR EDC ACTUALLY COULD PIGGYBACK ON CDC.

JUST AS FAR AS THE OPEN COMMUNICATION, JUST BEING COLLABORATIVE, HAVING THAT THINKING THAT FORWARD THINKING TOGETHER AND NOT SILOING ALL OF US IN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AVENUES.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I COULD SAY FOR CDC THAT WE DIDN'T ALREADY SAY FOR EDC THAT WE COULD REPLICATE WITH YOU.

SO I'LL JUST SAY SAME SONG, SECOND VERSE.

[INAUDIBLE]. ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH, IF I MAY THE CORE VALUES ARE THE FOUNDATION OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND SO ANY OF OUR ACTIONS, IF WE CAN ALIGN THEM INTO THE CORE VALUES, THEN WE KNOW WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

SO WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR BOARD'S MEETINGS AND WE'RE IN OUR MEETINGS, IF WE ALL GO BACK TO THE CORE VALUES WE JUST GOT DONE WITH A LENGTHY CONVERSATION WHERE THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND INTEGRITY SECTION WOULD HAVE HANDLED THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHERE WE OPENLY COMMUNICATE DECISIONS AND PROCESSES WITH INTEGRITY ASKING QUESTIONS AND UNDERSTANDING.

SO I JUST URGE YOU TO ADOPT THESE CORE VALUES AND STICK TO THEM.

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SO WE HAVE ALL THE SOLID FOUNDATION TO WORK FROM FOR SURE.

YEAH. I THINK OUR BOARD HAS IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT WHEN I WAS READING THEM EARLIER, I FEEL LIKE OUR BOARD HAS IN SOME REGARDS, ALREADY ADOPTED THEM.

THEY'RE KIND OF PART OF WHAT THEY DO.

I HAVE AN AMAZING BOARD.

ALL OF THEM HAVE, YOU KNOW, WONDERFUL BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE.

THEY BRING A LOT OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

I THERE'S A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE, I WILL SUPPORT SOMETHING AND THEY DISAGREE AND I LOVE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK AND I THINK THAT THEY COME FROM, YOU KNOW, A POSITION OF INTEGRITY AND ARE UTILIZING THE EXPERIENCES THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

SO I LOVE THOSE CORE VALUES AND I THINK MY BOARD IS YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN LINE WITH OPERATING WITHIN THEM.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY JUST THANK FOR EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CDC AND CDC WERE NOT ALWAYS PART OF THIS CITY WHENEVER I WAS MAYOR IN 2005, AND I THINK JUST A YEAR AFTER THAT OR SO, THAT THE CITY MANAGER THEN CAME TO ME AND TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE CDC.

IN THE EDC THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE.

SO WE KIND OF RESURRECTED IT AND STARTED FROM THERE AND I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS COME A LONG WAYS, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THE THINGS THAT OUR BOTH OF OUR BOARDS HAVE DONE AND THE OTHER BOARDS.

YOU KNOW I'M PROBABLY THE ONE ONLY ONE IN HERE.

I'VE LIVED HERE PROBABLY LONGER THAN MOST ANYONE ELSE HERE.

I'VE MOVED HERE IN 1982.

MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHERS THAT WERE HERE BEFORE THAT, BUT POPULATION WAS 1200.

YOU KNOW, THEY ASK, DO YOU LIVE CLOSE TO SO AND SO.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, GO 4 BLOCKS OUT OF TOWN, YOU KNOW.

SO I'VE REALLY SEEN THE GROWTH IN FACT WORKING FOR THE COUNTY AND SEEING THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE DONE AND I'M PROUD OF THE CITY, I'M PROUD TO BE ABLE TO BE A SERVANT AND SERVE THE CITIZENS SUCH AS YOU GUYS ARE DOING, BECAUSE WE DO IT WITHOUT PAY, YOU KNOW, AND AND THAT SAYS AN AWFUL LOT TO VOLUNTEER YOUR TIME. YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS SAY SOMETIMES I WAS A BOY SCOUT LEADER.

ONE TIME THEY SAID, HEY, WHENEVER THEY START RECRUITING YOU TO BE A LEADER, THEY SAY IT JUST TAKES AN HOUR A WEEK.

YEAH RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT LONGER THAN THAT TO PREPARE AND TO DO THINGS AND IN THE THE CDC AND THE EDC EACH HAVE THEIR OWN TASK AT HAND BUT THERE'S NO REASON WHY THAT WE CANNOT ALL, YOU KNOW, SING FROM THE SAME SONG AND DO IT IN CONCERT BECAUSE IT MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER TO GO FORWARD AND THE CITIZENS APPRECIATE THAT, TOO.

IF WE'RE BATTLING EACH OTHER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING.

BUT IF WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM WITH THE SAME GOALS HEADING THE SAME DIRECTION, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING.

SO I AGREE.

ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? OKAY. IF NOT, THANK YOU.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND STAY UP THERE.

MR. JOHNSON, IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP, WE'LL GO TO CASE SIX 2024-083, DISCUSS PEDC/PCDC CEO STATUS AND REPORTING STRUCTURE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. GENTLEMEN, I HAD TALKED TO YOU GUYS ALREADY AND THAT I WANTED YOU GUYS TO KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN, WHERE YOU ARE NOW, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO IF YOU'LL BRIEF US, THEN WE'LL OPEN THAT DIALOG AFTERWARDS.

SURE. ON THE CEO? FOR THE CEO POSITION.

YES. YEAH.

WHAT CAN WE SAY? DO WHAT? WHAT CAN WE SAY ON THAT IN TERMS OF WITHOUT? BROAD STROKES? LET ME START. YEAH.

SURE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE WERE REALLY FOCUSING ON WAS ENSURING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH INTERVIEWING WITH TRANSPARENCY AND FAIRNESS AND SO WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO DO SO.

I THINK THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT WE LEFT OFF ON.

I KNOW THAT OUR BOARD SUPPORT THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING WITH A JOINT YOU KNOW, CDC, EDC, CEO ROLE.

I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO WHERE WE'RE LANDING ON ANY CANDIDATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE WHICH COUNCILMAN LONG AND COUNCILMAN OBERA WERE THERE AT THE LAST INTERVIEW SESSION TO HEAR THE PLAN, ALONG WITH MR. LAND AND MR. MASHBURN AND I THINK WE WALKED AWAY WITH SOME VERY FEELING POSITIVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE STOOD AND I THINK THAT WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH HAVING AN INITIATIVE THAT WILL GIVE COUNSEL INSIGHT TO CANDIDATES TO WHERE WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE SESSION AND BE ABLE TO SEE THE PEOPLE WE INTERVIEW, STANDARDIZED QUESTIONS AND THEN PRESENTATION AND ALL THAT

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INFORMATION. SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS HAVE INSIGHT AS TO WHY WE CHOSE THE CANDIDATE WE CHOSE AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WITHOUT GETTING INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR ANYTHING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHERE WE STAND, THE ROLE ELABORATE DID A BETTER JOB AT THAT.

YEAH, I HAVE EXCUSE ME, I'M A LITTLE FAMISHED.

SO ALL THE WHEELS ARE CLICKING.

BUT YEAH, I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. RUTLEDGE SAID. THERE IS, I THINK WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE.

THE THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE LAST GIVEN BY COUNSEL, I BELIEVE WE WERE.

WE'VE INSERTED THAT INTO THE PROCESS WHICH WILL LEND TO THE TRANSPARENCY PORTION OF IT, AND WE CAME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT WE THINK WILL PLEASE THE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON WITH THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND START THIS DISCUSSION.

I THINK IF ANYTHING, WHAT TONIGHT REALLY REVEALED TO BOARD AND COUNCIL IS THE NECESSITY TO HAVE THAT LIAISON PERSON IN BETWEEN SO THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION THAT CAN RELAY THE VISION OF COUNCIL DOWN TO THE BOARDS, AND THAT WE ARE ALL OPERATING.

AGAIN, WITH THAT SAME KNOWLEDGE.

RIGHT. NOT NECESSARILY SAME OPINION, SAME KNOWLEDGE.

SO I THINK THE ROLE IN THAT CAPACITY IN ITSELF IS NECESSARY.

I WILL SAY, AND I AM A PERSON, I DON'T EVER LIKE TO ADMIT THAT I'M WRONG AND I CAN BE DISCIPLINED ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T LIKE IT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I LIKE TO DO AND YOU CAN ASK NICK.

GUYS, I'M NOT VERY WELL AT DOING THIS AT HOME.

HOWEVER, I WILL FULLY SAY THAT I WAS WRONG ON HOW I INITIALLY WANTED TO STRUCTURE THIS.

SO IF WE LOOK BACK AND I'M FIRST OFF, I'M GOING TO SAY I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU GUYS HAVE POURED INTO THIS ENTIRE INITIATIVE.

SO JUST THINK, WHENEVER YOU GUYS TOOK THAT OVER, I HAD ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THAT MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS PRIOR TO IT.

SO I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU IN THE TRENCHES.

ON HOW MUCH TIME HAS BEEN CONSUMED WITH THIS THAT HAS TAKEN AWAY FROM OUR FAMILY AND FROM OUR LIVES? WHICH KIND OF POINTS ME BACK TO I HATE TO ADMIT WHEN I'M WRONG, BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT HAVING THE CEO POSITION IN THIS CAPACITY AND HOW WE HAVE OPERATED AND HOW WE HAVE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

I THINK IT IS A NECESSARY POSITION.

I DON'T LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING WITH IT, AND REALLY THAT WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD HAD COMING OUT OF THE RETREAT.

ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD AND HAVING MORE.

MORE COHESIVENESS WITH BOARDS AND WITH CITY.

SO TO ME, IDEALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS THERE STILL IS THAT FIGUREHEAD, THAT IS WITH EDC, THAT IS WITH CDC, BUT ALSO WITH THE CITY AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WHEN WE HAD STARTED THIS, IT WAS WE NEED TO HAVE CITY AND WE NEED TO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND I'M GOING TO BE JUST KIND OF BLUNT AND SAY IN THIS, I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS.

BUT IF YOU'VE BEEN ALONG WITH THIS PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING, YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I WAS WITH THAT.

I FELT THE NEED AT THAT TIME WITH THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE HAD.

THERE WAS AN URGENCY TO MAKE FOR SURE THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY STRONG IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKING THAT AVENUE AND IT WAS NOT WHAT WE HAD AT THE CITY LEVEL AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAD TO HAVE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE FOR IT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

I DID NOT PERCEIVE OR I DIDN'T HAVE.

I HAD NO IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LAND THE TALENT THAT WE DID LAND HERE, AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

NOW IF WE LOOK AT WHERE WE WERE COMPARED TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, WE'RE IN TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SPACES.

SO I CAN'T OPERATE ON OLD KNOWLEDGE WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND MAKE THE SAME DECISIONS WITH WHAT WE HAD BACK THEN.

IF WE WERE STILL IN THAT POSITION, THEN ABSOLUTELY, I WOULD STILL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT ABOUT.

BUT THINGS CHANGED AND SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AS WE STILL HAVE A PERSON, HOWEVER, THAT PERSON IS UNDER THE CITY SIDE THAT WORKS STILL AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL AND THE BOARDS, BUT IS NOT SOLELY EDC, CDC THAT IS A PERSON THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FULLY EXPLAIN THAT, BUT COUNCIL, PLEASE WEIGH IN.

LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

SO DO I FEEL WE NEED THIS POSITION? I DO. BUT JUST WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, JUST HIGH LEVEL.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS SEE THE DAY TO DAY OF THAT CEO ROLE THAT DAY TO DAY.

WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT BEING FOR THEM.

NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL.

JUST. YEAH. BASICALLY RUNNING THE VISION THAT'S PROVIDED BY COUNCIL.

SO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PORTION MANAGING THE RUBRICS BUSINESS RETENTION, DEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

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BUT TO TOUCH ON WHAT MAYOR MADAM MAYOR STATED THERE THAT VISION IS KIND OF IT'S CONTRADICTORY BECAUSE OF THE CHARTER.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A PERSON IN THOSE THREE THAT WILL REPORT TO YOU, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN EMPLOYEE.

SO THEY COULDN'T REPORT TO THE COUNCIL, AND THEY WILL STILL BE INVOLVED BECAUSE IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION ITSELF REQUIRES THAT PERSON TO BE AT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL AS SO THEY WILL BE IN THE KNOW AND THEY WILL WORK CLOSELY.

THIS MODEL, WHICH YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH MISTER TOKAR IN THIS PROCESS, AND HE WAS IN CHARGE OF CREATING THE PROCESS FOR MCKINNEY.

SO THE SAME PROCESS THAT THEY WILL FOLLOW IN TERMS OF STREAMLINING INFORMATION FOR BOTH BOARDS, HAVING EVERYBODY INFORMED NOTHING WILL BE DIFFERENT THERE. THEY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO BE JUST AS INVOLVED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IS HERE.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WITH THAT STRUCTURE, COUNCIL WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, INSTRUCT THEM DIRECTLY OR GET INFORMATION FROM THEM DIRECTLY.

WE WOULD BASICALLY BE CREATING THE SAME THING.

WE JUST JUST LEARNED NOT TO SAY THAT MISTER LANE OR MISTER MASHBURN IS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING LIKE OUR PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

HOWEVER, THESE SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE BECAUSE WE EXPERIENCED THAT AND THAT IS NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE THEM.

BUT IF WE PUT THESE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE NOW, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTED FROM ANYTHING LIKE THAT MOVING FORWARD.

MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT MISTER JOHNSON SAID AND KIND OF WHAT YOU ALL SAID IN YOUR VISION STATEMENT, THE DECISIONS WE MAKE NOW ARE FOR TEN, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

THIS IS NOT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE HAVE TODAY, BUT THESE SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING WHEN NONE OF US IN THIS ROOM WILL BE HERE.

THOSE SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING.

THAT'S WHY WE SO HEARTILY SUPPORT THE VISION AND THE PATH THAT WE WERE ON, BECAUSE THOSE SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE.

YES, THEY WERE IN PLACE FOR PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

NOW WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A KNOCK DOWN ADMINISTRATION AND WE'RE ALL HANDS ON DECK AND WE'RE READY TO ROLL.

THAT CAN STILL HAPPEN WITH THESE SAME SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

THE SAFEGUARDS DON'T HAVE TO BE REMOVED TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND WORK IN UNISON.

THESE SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE TO PROTECT WHATEVER ADMINISTRATION COMES GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT.

I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN TONIGHT YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, OF COURSE, I WASN'T BACK THERE.

BUT WITH PROPER COMMUNICATION, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WITH THE SAME GOAL FOCUS ON SEEING PRINCETON BE THE BEST THAT CAN BE.

I THINK WE SAW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A POSITIVE OUTCOME THAT CAME OUT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT HAS ANY GOAL TO NOT OPERATE FROM A GOOD FAITH MEASURE.

AND SO I THINK THAT WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN PLACE PROPER COMMUNICATION AND COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING AND, GOODWILL FROM BOTH BOARDS AND THE COUNCIL, I DON'T SEE THAT HAVING THIS IN PLACE THE WAY IT IS, THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE ANY IMPACT TO US BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD THE WAY WE ARE ALL WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD.

GOING BACK AGAIN TO THE RETREAT AND JUST THE UNDERSTANDING WE LEFT WITH THEIR DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE WITH THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

SOME OF US WERE NOT AROUND TO KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE OR THE IMPACT THEY WOULD HAVE.

BUT WHAT WE LEARNED AT THE RETREAT IS THAT WE NEED TO REBUILD IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND AS THE MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO PUT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN DONE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT REVISING OUR STRATEGY.

SO THE SAFEGUARDS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE WILL BE MORE EFFECTIVE SO THAT THE THINGS AND THE DECISIONS WE MAKE NOW WOULD HAVE MORE VALUE GOING FORWARD.

NOW THAT WE'VE HAD THE RETREAT, WE'VE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

I AM WONDERING IF IT WOULD NOT BE THE BEST THING AT THIS POINT TO DELAY FILLING THAT ROLE AND WHY THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT IS THAT WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A NEW STRUCTURE.

THERE IS GOING TO BE A NEED FOR THAT PERSON SOMEWHERE ALONG DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO RECOUP, LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE AND SEE AT WHAT TIME POINT WOULD IT BE BEST TO BRING THAT PERSON IN.

AND SO TONIGHT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE START LOOKING AT THAT AND AS WE HAVE STARTED THE COLLABORATION AS BOARDS TO COME TOGETHER WITH MISTER LAND AND MISTER MASHBURN AND DETERMINE AT WHAT PHASE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT IN THIS NEW STRATEGY THAT WE ARE

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DEVELOPING, THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO BRING THAT PERSON IN, BECAUSE IF WE BROUGHT THAT PERSON IN TODAY AND WE DO NOT HAVE A CLEAR PATH FOR THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE AND THEN WHAT WOULD THAT HOW WOULD THAT LOOK? WHAT WOULD BE THE REPORT LEAVING PRINCETON.

THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND SO WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT WAY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INTENTIONAL IN HOW WE BUILD.

WE'RE INTENTIONAL AND HOW WE FILL POSITIONS SO THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO COME IN WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE DUTIES THAT THEY PERFORM, OTHER POSITIONS THAT THEY HOLD.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES AND I THINK WE ARE I AGREE WITH YOU.

WE ARE VERY INTENTIONAL.

WE SPENT $60,000 ON A CONSULTANT ON A PRODUCT THAT WE ALL EXPERIENCED.

RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU GO TO MCKINNEY FOR ANYTHING THAT CONSULTANT BUILT THAT PRODUCT, THAT'S WHO WE HIRED.

THAT'S THE LAYOUT HE GAVE US.

HIS INTENTIONS WERE VERY CLEAR.

SO WE YEAH, WE ARE I DON'T THINK I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.

I KNOW THE RETREAT. THE RETREAT SOUNDED AMAZING, BUT EVERYONE ON THE BOARD ON THIS DAIS STATED THAT WE ARE NOT FRISCO.

WE ARE NOT MCKINNEY.

WE ARE NOT. SO THAT CONSULTANT FOCUSED ON WHAT WE WERE NOT AND WHAT WE COULD BE IN THE PATHWAY TO GET THERE AND THIS WAS THAT PATHWAY, THIS PERSON THAT WE WERE HIRING IN, WHAT WOULD NOT HINDER US IN THAT WAY AND THEY WOULD IF THIS PERSON COMES IN AND THEY FEEL AS IF I DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION, THIS WASN'T THIS IS NOT THE PERSON FOR US.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY THAT CAN COME IN AND ELEVATE WHAT WE HAVE TO BRING VALUE TO WHAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN THAT NEEDS TO BE INSTRUCTED ON WHAT TO DO.

WE NEED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AN EXPERT AND TELL US, BASED ON YOUR METRICS, BASED ON THE DATA, THIS IS THE BEST WAY FORWARD.

HERE'S MY ROLODEX OF CONTACTS.

HERE ARE DEVELOPERS I WORK WITH PREVIOUSLY.

THIS IS WHAT I CAN BRING TO PRINCETON.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR AN EMPLOYEE TO GROW.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY THAT CAN COME AND GROW OUR CITY.

A QUESTION FOR YOU.

DOES THAT REPORT FROM THE CONSULTANT HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON IT? I MEAN, WOULD IT STILL BE VALID NEXT YEAR? SO NEXT YEAR? YEAH. WOULD THAT REPORT BE STILL VALID? WOULD THE RECOMMENDATIONS BE STILL VALID NEXT YEAR? YEAH, I WOULD SAY THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT ON IT AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE MR. LAND AND MR. MASHBURN AND THEY HAVE BROUGHT A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE.

THEY HAVE BROUGHT SOME A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE BEFORE AND SO I AM WONDERING IF WE COULD NOT JUST WORK WITH THEM FOR A WHILE LONGER TO LAY A FOOTPRINT, AND MAYBE AT A LATER DATE, WE REVISIT THE REPORT FROM THE CONSULTANT, AND WE SEE AT THE RIGHT TIME WHEN IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BRING THAT INDIVIDUAL IN.

SO. THE CEO IN.

SO THAT'S NEW INFORMATION.

I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. LAND WOULD BE STEPPING IN ON AN INTERIM BASIS.

HE IS INTERIM.

YES. SO THAT WILL BE THE TIMELINE.

WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THAT INTERIM OR IS IT ARE WE LIKE.

NO, WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER, I BELIEVE AGAIN AND MAP THAT OUT.

LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

STRATEGICALLY PLAN AND DETERMINE AT WHAT PHASE OF OUR PLANNING IT WOULD BE BEST TO BRING THAT PERSON IN.

WE'RE NOT IN AGREEMENT THAT SHOULD BE ON THE BEGINNING PORTION OF THIS, SO THAT THEY ARE PRIVY TO ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING AT THIS POINT.

PROBABLY NOT.

THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE TODAY IS TO THIS COUNCIL MEMBERS IS WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN MOVING FORWARD NOW AND MOVING FORWARD SIX MONTHS FROM NOW? WHAT IS THE STOP GAP? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF PAUSING? SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM JUST UTILIZING TAXPAYERS MONEY EFFECTIVELY.

CURRENTLY. OR LET'S BACK UP TO WHEN WE OR I WASN'T AROUND DECIDING TO GET THE CEO.

WE DIDN'T HAVE CERTAIN TALENT WITHIN THE CITY.

WELL, WE DO NOW HAVE CERTAIN TALENT WITHIN THE CITY THAT'S ALREADY ON THE PAYROLL THAT WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR.

SO TO ME, IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL POSITION PREMATURELY AND NOT UTILIZE THE TAXPAYERS FUNDS IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE MANNER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING OR REDEVELOPING OUR VISION FOR THIS

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CITY. IF WE BUY OURSELVES ANOTHER LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TIME FRAME WILL BE SIX MONTHS A YEAR.

IT GIVES US MORE TIME TO REALLY COME TOGETHER AND HAVE A BETTER SOLID PLAN AND THEN AT THAT TIME, THE CEO IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE NEEDED. IT'S A NEEDED POSITION, BUT IS IT NEEDED AT THIS VERY MOMENT? CAN WE SAVE THE TAXPAYERS OF SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR WORTH OF SALARY AND UTILIZE THAT MONEY IN A BETTER MANNER? SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED AND THAT YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU GUYS WANT IN NEED OUT OF THIS ROLE, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S DEBATING THE NECESSITY OF THAT, AND I FULLY SUPPORT THE NEED FOR IT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M VERY CLEAR IN REITERATING, THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY AND I AGREE WITH IT.

SO I THINK THAT WHERE WE'RE DISAGREEING PROBABLY IS THE REPORTING STRUCTURE, RIGHT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO CHALLENGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT.

THINK ABOUT A YEAR AGO WHERE WE WERE AND WE WOULD HAVE THESE MEETINGS.

FIRST OFF, WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING LIKE THIS.

NO, BUT THINK ABOUT YOUR RESPECTIVE EDC MEETING OR YOUR CDC MEETING.

WHO RAN THE MEETINGS? RIGHT OVER HERE. RIGHT.

THINK ABOUT TONIGHT.

WHETHER IT WAS A COUNCIL MEETING OR THIS MEETING.

HOW MUCH HAS HE SAID TONIGHT? YEAH. NOTHING.

RIGHT. HOW MUCH IS MR. LAND SAID TONIGHT? NOTHING. SO WE'RE ALREADY IN A DIFFERENT SPOT.

THE DECISIONS BEING MADE ARE NOT HAPPENING HERE.

THE DECISIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING ARE RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS WHERE THE CHANGE IS HAPPENING.

THESE ARE WHERE THE BIG DECISIONS ARE HAPPENING.

THIS IS WHERE THE OVERSIGHT IS HAPPENING.

THIS IS WHERE THE REPORTING IS HAPPENING.

SO BY SAYING WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE GUARDRAILS, IF WE PUSH SOMETHING OVER HERE ON THE CITY SIDE IN THE PAST 100%.

YES. BECAUSE WE ALL LET THAT DRIVE THE SHIP.

RIGHT. THAT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE AT ANYMORE.

THIS IS WHAT IS DRIVING THAT SHIP.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M VERY CLEAR ON THAT, THAT I'M NOT SAYING THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT.

I 100% THINK WE NEED IT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE STRONG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PLAYERS IN THERE THAT UNDERSTAND AND HAVE THE PARTNERSHIPS AND ARE GOING TO PUSH US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I THINK, AGAIN, WHERE WE'RE GETTING HUNG UP IS THE REPORTING STRUCTURE.

SO WHILE YOU GUYS THINK THAT REPORTING SHOULD BE HANDLED SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TWO BOARDS THAT IT REPORTS UP TO EDC, CDC, I THINK WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO COME AT IS SAYING, CAN WE PAUSE, UTILIZE THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE IN REVISION, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? AND IT'S STILL A PARTNERSHIP.

THEY'RE NOT HAVING AN OPINION ON THIS.

THIS IS OUR OPINION ON IT.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AT THAT POINT AND THE ONLY PUSHBACK THAT I WOULD GIVE ON THAT, AND JUST LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER IN MY OPINION, IS WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

IT'S JUST LIKE YOU ALL WENT TO A RETREAT WITH CITY LEADERS FROM THE CITY OF FRISCO AND OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE FRISCO, BUT THEY GAVE Y'ALL A LOT OF GREAT INSIGHT.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION FROM OTHER CITIES, CITY OF MCKINNEY, WHERE OUR CONSULTANT GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM, AND THAT'S HOW A LOT OF OTHER CITIES DO IT THAT ARE GROWING, ESPECIALLY AT OUR PACE TO KEEP THEM SEPARATE, TO WHICH WHAT THEY EXPLAINED TO US IS IT ALLOWS CERTAIN SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

YEAH AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY, YES, WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT TODAY, DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'LL BE IN A GOOD SPOT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.

TWO YEARS FROM NOW, I HOPE SO, BUT I DON'T THINK THESE SAFEGUARDS PREVENT ANY OF THAT FURTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

OTHER CITIES HAVE THIS EXACT SAME STRUCTURE.

WHY ARE WE TRYING TO LOOK TO VEER OFF FROM IT IN A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE? CAN I ASK WHAT IF YOU CAN GIVE ME, LIKE A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE OF WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT WITH THE REPORTING STRUCTURE BEING REPORTING UP TO CITY STAFF VERSUS REPORTING TO BOTH BOARDS? LIKE WHAT? WHAT WOULD CHANGE BASED ON THAT REPORTING STRUCTURE BEING DIFFERENT? I THINK, SIMPLY PUT, THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE ONE BOSS, RIGHT? THAT ONE BOSS WOULD BE CITY MANAGEMENT WORKING UNDER THE DIRECTION OF US VERSUS HAVING 14 OPINIONS AND 14 BOSSES.

OKAY, SO SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU I THINK COUNCILMAN LONG, COUNCIL MEMBER OBERA HAS HAVE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THIS, BUT I THINK THAT THESE BOARDS ARE EXTREMELY UNITED IN HOW THEY HANDLE THEMSELVES.

WE'RE I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE 14 DIFFERENT BOSSES.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL TO CREATE A STRATEGIC PLAN AND THAT WHAT THAT STRATEGIC PLAN WILL BE GEARED TOWARDS, WHAT THAT CEO WILL BE FOCUSING ON.

WE KNOW THAT EDC REQUIRES A LOT OF FOCUS, AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A BRUNT OF THE REQUIRED FOCUS INITIALLY FOR THIS ROLE AND CDC IS OKAY WITH THAT.

WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE RESOURCES IN OTHER CAPACITY.

AND CURRENTLY OUR COORDINATOR POSITION AND HOPING HOPEFULLY HAVING A MANAGER POSITION WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO PUT FOCUS THERE.

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BUT I THINK THERE'S NOT A SCENARIO THAT I CAN SEE WHERE COUNCIL WE SERVE AT THE AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.

COUNCIL SAYS, HEY, THIS IS OUR GOALS.

THIS IS OUR FOCUS, RIGHT? YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN US CORE VALUES.

YOU'VE GIVEN US YOUR VISION, RIGHT? AND WE ALIGN TO THAT AND THEN AS THEIR COMMUNICATION IS AS WE'VE SEEN TODAY, WE CAN BE GOOD AT PUSHING THAT TO OUR CEO TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE OPERATING IN THE WAY THAT WE ALL WANT THEM TO OPERATE.

I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WOULD BE A BREAK WITH THEM REPORTING TO BOTH BOARDS VERSUS REPORTING TO CITY STAFF.

I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT.

SO I CAN THINK.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL JUST WANTS TO PAUSE OR TABLE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

THE INITIATIVE TO MOVE WITH THE CEO IN EITHER DIRECTION FOR EDC, CDC AND LEAVE IT AS IS AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS TODAY.

AM I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? I DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY MADE A DECISION PERIOD ON THAT.

I BELIEVE. YEAH, I THINK SAINT PAUL IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT, RIGHT DIRECTION AT THIS TIME AS FAR AS HIRING A CEO FOR BOTH BOARDS.

OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION.

TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW.

RIGHT NOW. MR. LAND IS HERE ON A TEMPORARY INTERIM BASIS, AND FOR ALL PURPOSES, HE IS AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD OF EDC.

I THINK WE ALL HAVE AGREED ON THAT.

IF WE BRING A CEO IN RIGHT THIS MINUTE, RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO THAT WE'RE ALREADY NOT GETTING AND PAYING FOR? POTENTIALLY SOMEBODY WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF SKILLS, A DIFFERENT SET OF EYES, SOMEBODY WITH A LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGEI N SALES TAX AND DIFFERENT SET OF CONTACTS AND ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL, I MEAN, YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY EXPERTS IN THE ROOM, RIGHT? OKAY. I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO STOP CONFLICT? BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE.

WE HAVE ONE WORKING OFF THE DIRECTION OF CITY.

WE HAVE ANOTHER WORKING OFF THE DIRECTION OF CDC, EDC.

I AND I'VE, SAID THIS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS INITIATIVE.

I DON'T SEE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO STOP CONFLICT FROM THE LAST ADMINISTRATION TO THIS ONE.

WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MUCH AT THE TOP, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CONFLICT AND SOME CONFUSION.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE PREVENTED? CONFLICT DOESN'T STOP.

THAT'S GOVERNMENT SET UP.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE CONFLICT.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DISAGREE. BUT YOU'RE AND THAT'S WHY THERE ARE VOTES.

THAT COUNT IS SEVEN OF US ON EACH ONE OF THESE BOARDS.

I CAN HAVE MY OWN OPINION, BUT I ONLY HAVE ONE VOTE AND THAT BECOMES THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALL DISAGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE HAVE TO RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.

IF THE VOTE MOVES FORWARD 4 TO 3, WE MOVE FORWARD.

I WILL BE BLUNT AND STRAIGHTFORWARD AND HONEST AND I'VE DEALT WITH A LOT OF CITY OFFICIALS.

THE REASON THAT THEY SAY THESE SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE IN OTHER CITIES IS SO THAT ONE PERSON DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE POWER, CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE POWER THEY ARE, THAT'S WHY THEY ARE SEPARATE, ESPECIALLY IN BIGGER CITIES THAT MOVE FORWARD.

THAT'S COMPLETELY WHY THEY'RE SEPARATE.

CITY MANAGER YES, WE'RE ALL GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

THE CITY HAS TO MANAGE THEIR BUDGET.

OUR MONEY COMES FROM A SALES TAX, NOT TAXPAYERS.

SO. WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET TO THE SAME THING, BUT WE'RE MOVING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT AVENUES.

THE CITY HAS A BUDGET THAT THEY HAVE TO THAT THEY HAVE TO MANAGE, CDC HAS A BUDGET THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING.

THE CDC HAS A BUDGET THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING, AND ALL OF THESE THINGS IN THE PAST HAVE COME AND SAID, OH, YOU'RE SHORT ON THIS END.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO IN THIS ACCOUNT AND GET IT WHEN NO SAFEGUARDS AREN'T IN PLACE.

THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.

EXPOUND ON THOSE SAFEGUARDS FOR ME.

YOU KEEP SAYING SAFEGUARDS.

LET ME KNOW WHAT THOSE SAFEGUARDS ARE.

MAYBE SOMETHING I'M MISSING.

THOSE SAFEGUARDS ARE GIVE YOU CITY OF MCKINNEY.

THEY HAVE A EDC PRESIDENT, THE CITY MANAGERS.

THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT CONTROL THAT FUND BALANCE.

NOW HE HAS TO WORK WITH THAT PERSON IN COLLABORATION.

BUT THAT PERSON. IF I'M NOT YOUR BOSS, I CAN SAY NO TO YOU.

WHEN SOMEBODY IS YOUR BOSS, YOU ARE VERY KEEN TO NOT SAY NO TO THEM.

THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T ANSWER.

THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T REPORT TO THEM.

THOSE ARE THE SAFEGUARDS THAT I TALK ABOUT WHEN I TALK ABOUT BEING IN PLACE.

IF THERE'S A CDC CEO PRESIDENT AND THERE'S FUNDING THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT OF THEIR POCKET BECAUSE THEY'RE SHORT ON THIS END OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THAT PERSON DOES NOT REPORT TO THAT PERSON.

SO THE ANSWER CAN BE, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT I DISAGREE ON THIS ONE.

[INAUDIBLE] AND TO SPEAK TO THAT.

ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT SET UP THAT WAY, AND THE CEO WOULD BE ON THE LINE ITEM FOR COUNCIL.

SO THAT PERSON WOULD PRESENT THE BUDGET.

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THAT PERSON WOULD GIVE YOU THE DETAILS.

SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT FROM ONE SOURCE PREVIOUSLY AND IN OTHER PLACES THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL FOLLOW IN DALLAS CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ARE SEPARATING THEIR EDC SALES TAX AS WELL BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS.

NOT SAYING THAT IT'S DONE WITH NEFARIOUS INTENT, BUT SOMETIMES THINGS ARE MISSED.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL THAT'S CONTROLLING THAT BUDGET THAT IS PRESENTING TO YOU GUYS ON, HEY, THIS IS WHAT, WHERE THE EDC BUDGET IS, THIS IS THESE ARE THE EXPENDITURES AND SO FORTH.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WORKS IS THAT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT REPORTS TO YOU, AND THIS PERSON WOULDN'T DIRECTLY REPORT TO THE EDC OR CDC BOARD.

THEY WILL REPORT TO THE COUNCIL.

THEY WILL STILL TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS GIVING YOU ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL THAT HAS A THAT AREA OF EXPERTISE THAT WILL BE IN CHARGE OF THAT BUDGET.

SO AS YOU GUYS ARE STATING RIGHT NOW, ARE WE SAYING THAT MR. LAMB WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THE EDC BUDGET, CDC BUDGET, AND WE'LL REPORT THAT TO YOU GUYS AND YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD.

WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED HIM BEING IN CHARGE OF ANY BUDGET, BUT WE'RE SPEAKING AT HYPOTHETICALS, SO.

SO I'LL JUMP IN HERE JUST TO EXPLAIN HOW PURCHASING WORKS OR SHOULD WORK IN CITIES.

THERE'S NO BODY THAT CONTROLS THAT.

SO WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT'S PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

THEY APPROVE IT, BUT ANY EXPENDITURE ABOVE 50,000, THEY HAVE TO REAPPROVE NOW.

THERE'S NO GRABBING MONEY AND PUTTING MONEY HERE OR THERE.

IF THIS PERSON REPORTED HERE, IT WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE ONE TEAM APPROACH WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD.

BUT APPROVALS FOR ANY INCENTIVE, IF IT AFFECTS CDC, EDC, IT WOULD GO THROUGH YOU FOR APPROVAL JUST LIKE IT DOES BEFORE IT HITS COUNCIL.

SO YOU STILL HAVE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES YOU ALL ARE LOOKING FOR? I THINK WE'RE JUST GETTING HUNG UP ON SEMANTICS ON ALL OF THAT STUFF.

EVERYTHING I THE HALLMARK SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S EXTREMELY TRANSPARENT.

I THINK YOU CAN ASK ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS UP HERE.

WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING.

IN FACT, WE WANT COLLABORATION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DESIRE.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S FEELING VERY ADVERSARIAL, IF I'M BEING HONEST.

BUT WHAT WE WANT IS TO MOVE IN ONE DIRECTION.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MIC.

WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT VIEWERS AT HOME CAN'T.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYONE'S SAYING.

I THINK THE LACK OF CLARITY FROM YOU GUYS IS CREATING DOUBT FOR US HERE.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A ISSUE THAT YOU WANT TO RESOLVE, BUT WE'RE NOT HEARING A SOLUTION FROM YOU GUYS'S SIDE OF THE TABLE.

SO I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT MR. MASHBURN HAD JUST SAID.

I THINK THAT KIND OF HELPED A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I THINK PRESENTING THE ISSUE OF WANTING TO CHANGE IT, WHICH IS FINE, BUT NOT HAVING A SOLUTION OR NOT HAVING ANOTHER OPTION IS WHAT'S CREATING DOUBT ON THIS END TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

SO WHEN MR. TERRENCE HERE, WHEN HE ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT, WELL, MR. LAND BEING CHARGED AND THEN EVERYONE LOOKED AT EACH OTHER, THAT CREATED ANOTHER LEVEL OF DOUBT ON HERE.

LIKE THERE'S NOT A THERE'S NOT A SOLUTION IN PLACE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

SIMILAR TO THE ISSUE WITH WHEN WE TABLED SOMETHING, IT WAS WE JUST WANT CLARITY.

YEAH. JUST HAVING A SOLUTION WITH WHATEVER ISSUE IT MAY BE AND I RESPECT THAT AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ALL KIND OF DID LOOK AT EACH OTHER LIKE WHAT IS THE SOLUTION TO THAT? I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MR. LAND. IDEALLY, I WOULD LOVE FOR HIM TO STAY FOREVER AND CONTINUE THAT CONTRACT ON WITH US.

HE IS ON A LIMITED CONTRACT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY INVITATION TO YOU, MR. LAND, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER STAYING LONGER.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WIN FOR THE CITY, IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HIM STAY LONGER AND DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.

SO, YEAH, WE DID KIND OF LOOK AT EACH OTHER.

WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT SOLUTION TO THAT.

SO I THINK OUR SOLUTION RIGHT NOW IS TO PAUSE THIS WHILE WE CAN CONTINUE THAT COLLABORATIVE THINKING ON WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT NO, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

WELL, THE REASON I LOOK, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WAS DISCUSSING ANYTHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH A CONTROL OF THE BUDGET.

I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE LOSING CONTROL OF THE BUDGET.

I WASN'T CONFUSED ABOUT IT.

I YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION HAS NEVER BEEN IF YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING TO CONTROL THE BUDGET, I KNOW THAT ALL BUDGET ITEMS HAS TO GO THROUGH APPROVAL THROUGH ULTIMATELY COUNCIL.

SO THAT WAS MY I LOOKED BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS IN DISCUSSION.

IT WAS NEVER A CONSIDERATION OR DISCUSSED WITH ME TO CONSIDER MR. LAND TAKING OVER THE BUDGET OF ANYTHING.

NO, IT WAS THE PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET FOR JUST FOR MY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WHAT, BUT MY CLARIFICATION WAS THE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THE BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REPORTING STRUCTURE AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

MY, CONSENSUS WAS THAT PROFESSIONAL WOULD REPORT TO YOU.

SO I WAS ASKING, WOULD MR. LAND REPORT THE EDC, BUDGET AND EXPENDITURES AND WHAT LIKE THE UPDATES OF WHAT'S GOING ON THAT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA MONTHLY FOR BI WEEKLY FOR YOU GUYS.

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SO ARE YOU ASKING IF MR. LAND IS GOING TO BE THE LIAISON BETWEEN EDC, CDC AND COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO REPORT UP TO US TO TELL US WHAT THE BUDGET IS? IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO. THE HYPOTHETICAL WAS PRESENTED TO ME WAS, WELL, HOW WOULD THIS WORK IF WHAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MR. LAND WOULD BE DOING? SO I PRESENTED THE HYPOTHETICAL THAT THIS PERSON WOULD COME TO COUNCIL TO PRESENT THE UPDATES AND THINGS THAT HAD HAPPENED IN EDC.

SO I ASKED AT THAT POINT, WHAT MR. LAND BE THAT PERSON IN THE INTERIM? SO THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME FROM.

I SEE. I THINK, INTRODUCING WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE THE BUDGET KIND OF CONFUSED THE SITUATION.

THAT'S WHY WE WERE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER, BECAUSE THAT WAS NEVER AN ISSUE THAT WILL NOT BE TAKEN AWAY, JUST AS MR. MASHBURN EXPLAINED.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO TAKE THE TIME AND SEE WHAT IT IS WE ACTUALLY NEED WHEN WE BRING SOMEONE IN.

YOU MAY HAVE INTERVIEWED WONDERFUL CANDIDATES, AND IT'S NOT THAT THERE ISN'T A NEED FOR THAT PERSON, IT'S JUST THAT I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SIT DOWN, SEE WHERE WE ARE, JUST GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SEE AT WHAT PHASE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

IT WOULD BE BEST TO BRING THAT PERSON IN, BECAUSE IF WE BROUGHT THEM IN NOW, THEY MAY NOT WANT TO STAY BECAUSE OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS CLEAN UP.

COME TO A POINT AND THEN MOVING FORWARD.

WE DON'T WANT THAT PERSON TO COME IN DURING THE CLEANUP STAGE.

WHEN WE DO HAVE MR. MASHBURN AND MR. LAND HERE, WHO'S PROVIDING THAT FOR US.

SO WHEN WE BRING THAT PERSON IN, WE WANT TO BRING THEM IN.

SO THEIR LAUNCHING PAD COULD BE ONE.

THAT'S SURE AND THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

JUST WE'RE OFFERING NOT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT POSITION BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S JUST THAT WHEN IT'S JUST NOT TIME YET.

YEAH AND I THINK REALLY I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO THINK BACK WHEN THIS CONVERSATION FIRST STARTED, RIGHT AT THAT TIME, WHAT WAS THAT JULY, JUNE, JULY THAT WE STARTED THESE CONVERSATIONS LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING ON A YEAR OF THIS.

WE HAD NO IDEA WE'D BE HERE RIGHT NOW WITH NEW ADMINISTRATION, NEW CITY MANAGER, NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR.

WE STILL HAVE TO BACKFILL ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

WE HAD NO IDEA THE TALENT THAT WAS GOING TO BE COMING.

NOW THAT IT'S HERE, I JUST THINK IT'S PRUDENT OF US TO LOOK AT THAT AND MEASURE IT DIFFERENTLY, TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD THEN.

SO HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, GIVEN THAT WE KNOW ALL THE NEEDS THAT YOUR BOARD HAS? RIGHT. SO HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT THAT DIFFERENTLY UTILIZING TALENT THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING EXCESSIVE MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT WE MAY ALREADY HAVE IN-HOUSE? OR JUST HOW DO WE DO THAT MORE STRATEGICALLY THAN WHAT WE HAVE? WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING.

WE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PRESENTED TONIGHT THAT YOU SAY IS A NEED, WE THINK IT IS TOO.

LET ME LET ME ASK WHAT KIND OF WHAT SORT OF TIMELINE HAD YOU GUYS ENVISIONED ALREADY FOR THIS ROLE BEFORE THEY BE IN PLACE? LIKE, WHAT HAD YOU ALL DISCUSSED? YEAH. I THINK WE I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE EDC, BUT I THINK FROM THE CDC PERSPECTIVE, WE HAD ENVISIONED THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD AN OFFER OUT FOR A CANDIDATE BEFORE.

SO WE ENVISIONED THAT ROLE BE FILLED BY NOW.

AND A LOT OF FROM THE CDC SIDE OF THINGS, THE INITIATIVES THAT WE COULD BE GOING INTO THAT SOME OF THESE KIND OF EXPRESSED EARLIER ARE ON HOLD TO ENSURE WE HAVE THE EXPERT IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD THE PROPER WAY AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WON'T SPEAK FOR EDC, SO I DON'T KNOW IF LET ME KNOW IF I'M OFFLINE.

I MEAN, THAT OFFER WAS THERE.

SO AND TO SPEAK TO THE REASONING BEHIND IT, IT WASN'T IT WAS NEVER MY REASONING WHEN I JOINED THE EDC THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT PERSON AND ADMINISTRATION. IT WAS FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF DOING LEADERSHIP MCKINNEY, VISITING OTHER CITIES, GOING TO AUSTIN, LOOKING AT HOW THEIR CITY RAN.

IT WAS BASED ON LOOKING AT EXAMPLES OF SUCCESSFUL CITIES AND WHEN IN YOUR FIRST APPOINTED POSITION, WHEN YOU, ME, YOU AND ANOTHER PERSON MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MY ASSESSMENT WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO CHANGE.

IT WASN'T AT THAT TIME I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT PERSON WAS.

IT WAS LOOKING AT OUR CITY OBJECTIVELY AND SEEING WHERE THE STOP GAPS WERE.

WHERE WERE THE BOTTLENECKS, WHERE WERE THE HOLD UPS, WHAT DID WE NEED TO DO? AND BASED ON THAT WHAT WE SET THESE THINGS IN MOTION TO BETTER OUR CITY.

SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY SAFEGUARDING US FROM A PERSON.

IT WAS HOW DO WE BUILD A BETTER, MORE EFFICIENT CITY IN DECISION MAKING? THAT'S WHAT IT WAS BASED ON.

ONE I JUST I GUESS REAL QUICK, I HAVE A SO I REMEMBER HAVING A MEETING, I MET WITH MISTER MASHBURN AND HE WAS TELLING ME HOW HOW HE NEEDED THIS ROLE TO BE FILLED QUICKLY BECAUSE HE'S UP TO HIS NECK WITH THINGS AND HE'S GOT A LOT ON HIS PLATE ALREADY FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH AND SO THAT WAS REALLY A LOT OF THE PUSH TO URGENCY TO

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KIND OF GET THIS OUT HERE AND SO WE'RE KIND OF OPERATING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S STILL GOING ON.

RIGHT. HE'S STILL KIND OF UNCOVERING THINGS AND FIGURING OUT WAYS TO RESOLVE IT AND SO THIS WOULD PUT A POSITION, AS MY WIFE CALLS ME BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT I'M HERE.

SO. I'LL TEXT HER.

YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON WHY WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS NEEDED.

NOW, MR. LAND AND MR. MASHBURN HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING SINCE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE COME ON BOARD AND WE BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE OUTSTANDING.

WE JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO GET DONE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD THEM UP FROM WHAT THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE PLENTY TO DO.

RIGHT AND SO THIS PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE INITIATIVES FORWARD, COME BACK AND COMMUNICATE, RIGHT.

HEAR FROM THEM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, COMMUNICATE BACK TO US, HEAR OUR PERSPECTIVE, COMMUNICATE BACK TO THEM, AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS IN THE KNOW OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THEY GOT A TON ON THEIR PLATE AND WE WANT TO GET MOVING.

AND FROM A CDC PERSPECTIVE, QUALITY OF LIFE INITIATIVES ARE SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T BE SITTING ON FUNDS, RIGHT? WE SHOULD BE MOVING IN ACTION.

WE SHOULD BE ENGAGING SOME OF THESE THINGS TO KIND OF NOT BE BEHIND BECAUSE WE KNOW AS YOU'VE COMMUNICATED, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THESE BUSINESSES ARE COMING, RIGHT? THE RETAIL IS COMING.

SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE, THINGS HAVE TO COME AS WELL AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE SITTING BEHIND AND I DON'T HAVE 40 HOURS A WEEK TO COMMIT TOWARDS.

YOU KNOW, I'M ALREADY SLEEPING ON THE COUCH ONE DAY A WEEK RIGHT NOW FOR HOW MUCH TIME I SPEND DOING THIS STUFF.

SO THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO GET SOMEONE IN THAT CAN PICK THAT UP AND HELP US OUT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR ME NOT TO HAVE TO SLEEP ON THE COUCH GOING FORWARD.

SO HELP ME OUT THERE. THANK YOU.

THAT'S A VERY VALID PERSPECTIVE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

JUST ONE LAST QUESTION.

AT WHAT PHASE OF THE GAP ANALYSIS DID THESE CITIES BRING A CDC EDC COMBINED ON COMBINED CEO? SO MAYOR MADAM MAYOR CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL? SHE WAS IN THERE. THE CONSULTANT THAT DID THAT FOR MCKINNEY SAID THAT WE WERE BEHIND OUR TIMELINE IN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT FIVE YEARS AGO.

SO BASED ON HIS ANALYSIS, WE WERE BEHIND ON THAT, BASED ON OUR GROWTH RATE AND ONE OTHER THING IS, WHILE WE HAVE MR. LAND HERE, I JUST THINK IT'LL BE EXCELLENT TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THAT POSITION TO LEARN FROM THEM.

I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE WASTING DOLLARS IF MR. LAND IS HERE ON A CONTRACT BASIS, AND WE KNOW HE'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOREVER.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN, LIKE YOU SAY, COME UP UNDERNEATH HIS WING AND REALLY LEARN AND LEARN FROM THE THINGS THAT HE HAS TO OFFER INSTEAD OF GETTING SOMEBODY IN WHEN HE'S ON HIS WAY OUT.

I DISAGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT.

I THINK WHAT HE MEANS BY THAT IS ACCLIMATION.

BRING SOMEBODY IN AND HAVE THEM BE ACCLIMATED TO THE TO THE ROLE AND HELP WITH THE WITH, WITH CONTINUING, YOU KNOW, CONTINUITY IS A BIG ISSUE THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED IN TERMS OF KNOWLEDGE AND THE WHAT IS THE GENERAL LIFESPAN OF A CITY MANAGER IN A CITY IS ONE YEAR, ONE AND A HALF YEARS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE DATA, WHAT HAPPENS TO US IF WHEN THEY MOVE ON AND THERE'S NO CONTINUITY HERE, THERE'S NOBODY HERE THAT ACTUALLY IS BUILDING OR MAKING THAT SUCCESSION PLAN.

THIS IS ONE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

WE KNOW WE HAVE AN INTERIM PERSON IN PLACE, BUT WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO PUT SOMEBODY IN THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE HERE THAT HAS THE KNOWLEDGE, AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE ANOTHER BOTTLENECK, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO THEN START THE HIRING PROCESS OVER AND BRINGING SOMEBODY ELSE IN WHEN THEY CAN ALREADY BE ACCLIMATED TO THAT PROCESS.

AND THEN THE IT'S A SEAMLESS TRANSITION FROM ONE PROFESSIONAL TO THE NEXT.

I KNOW, MADAM MAYOR.

I HOPE I'M NOT TAKING OVER FROM YOU, BUT THERE'S BEEN REALLY GOOD ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES FOR HAVING A CEO POSITION AND THEN ALSO FOR JUST DELAYING A BIT AND I THINK AS COUNCIL WE NEED TO WEIGH BOTH SIDES VERY CAREFULLY AND DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

I, AND I SAY THAT PROBABLY THE BETTER WAY RIGHT NOW IS TO COME TO A TRUCE, AND THAT TRUCE IS TO ASSURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HIRE A AN EDC CEO.

HOWEVER, IT MAY NOT NOW MAY NOT BE THE TIME.

SO WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHEN WOULD BE A GOOD TIME IN THE PHASE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, IN OUR GAP ANALYSIS, WHEN WE CAN BRING THAT PERSON IN BASED ON WHAT THE INITIATIVE THAT STARTED IT OR THE REASONS THIS WAS PUT ON THE TABLE ONE AND TWO, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND THEN LOOKING AS WE FORECAST INTO THE FUTURE, THEN WHAT THE NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE

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AND THAT IS WHAT I AM PROPOSING THAT WE DO AT THIS POINT.

MISS ANDERSON, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU COULD JUST MARK THAT MR. KLEIBER NEEDED TO LEAVE AT 10:20.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO INVITE OUR BOARDS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE YOU GUYS MAKE A CALL ON THIS.

YEAH. JUST TO TO SPEAK TO THE TO THE LAST POINT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SWALLOW A TRUCE, BUT THEN, AS ALL THE POINTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN MAKING ARE REPRESENTED, JUST MAYBE SAID A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH OF A TRUCE.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THE ROLE IS NEEDED.

WE'VE GOT GREAT TALENT AT HAND WHO HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

I THINK KAREEM MADE A GREAT POINT EARLIER ABOUT UTILIZING THE TIME THAT WE HAVE WITH MR. LAND TO BRING SOMEBODY ON.

WE'VE REITERATED A NUMBER OF STRONG, VALID POINTS OF WHY WE SHOULD BRING SOMEBODY ON AND THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE HEARING IS, WELL, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE.

SO WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD WAIT.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF MOMENTUM BEING BUILT IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW AND I SURE WOULD HATE TO SEE US WAIT ON SOMEBODY AND HAVE SOME TALENT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE.

THEY'RE INTERVIEWING AT DIFFERENT PLACES RIGHT NOW.

BUT I THINK THE ACCLAMATION THAT TERRENCE TALKED ABOUT GETTING SOMEBODY ON SOONER THAN LATER AND HAVE THAT PERSON PARTNER WITH, MR. MASHBURN AND MR. LAND IS CRITICAL IN EVERY DAY THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT WE'RE LOSING.

SO SIX MONTHS.

THAT'S SIX MONTHS THAT WE'VE LOST THAT PERSON COULD BE NOT ONLY ACCLIMATING WITH BUT ALSO CONTRIBUTING.

THAT'S SIX MONTHS THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT THE THAT WE HAVE.

THE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE ON THAT, TOO, IS THAT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO START TOMORROW.

SO WHEN WE'RE SAYING SIX MONTHS, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS SIX MONTHS.

UNTIL WHAT? UNTIL WE START INTERVIEWING AGAIN AND TRYING TO QUALIFY CANDIDATES, OR SIX MONTHS UNTIL WE MAKE THE OFFER, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, AND IT MAY TAKE US THREE MONTHS TO GET TO THAT POINT ANYHOW.

SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WANTING TO REASSESS SOME THINGS AND LOOK AT SOME THINGS.

WE'VE ALREADY SPENT, WHAT, $60,000 ON A CONSULTANT TO DO THOSE ASSESSMENTS AND TO GET US TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY ASKING US TO THROW THAT MONEY AWAY BECAUSE IT WOULD WE WOULD HAVE TO START OVER AT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW ON AND DO ANOTHER ASSESSMENT AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WOULD COME UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT WITHOUT NO FURTHER FUNDS.

WHY WOULD ANOTHER ASSESSMENT NEED TO BE DONE IF WE'VE DETERMINED THAT WE HAVE A NEED FOR THE POSITION? WELL, IF WE'RE.

WELL, THEN WHY ARE WE WAITING SIX MONTHS? IF WE'VE DETERMINED IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND IF THE CONSULTANT WHO IS A PROFESSIONAL, A $60,000 PROFESSIONAL, HAS TOLD US WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, I DON'T I JUST I'M MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, BUT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS THE NEED TO WAIT.

LIKE MR. LONG SAID, WE HAVE QUALIFIED PEOPLE RIGHT NOW WHO ARE WORKING IN THAT AREA WHO WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AND FILL THE GAP AT THIS TIME, AND WE JUST HOLD OFF AND SEE WHERE WE ARE.

THERE ARE QUITE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED.

I KNOW THAT MAYBE IT'S BEEN ALREADY BUDGETED FOR MAYBE SOME OF THOSE THINGS ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT THEN COMING IN THE REASONS THIS POSITION WAS PROPOSED, THE REASON THERE WAS A NEED IDENTIFIED IS DIFFERENT TO WHAT IT IS NOW.

IT'S NOT THAT YOU DON'T BRING THE PERSON IN, IT'S JUST THAT THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS AND ONE OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS IS THAT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE IN PLACE WHO ARE FILLING THAT GAP, AND WE JUST HOLD OFF UNTIL WE PLAN TO STRATEGICALLY BRING SOMEBODY IN, BRINGING SOMEONE IN RIGHT NOW, HAVE WE FOUND A CANDIDATE WHO IS GOING TO FIT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? DO YOU HAVE A CANDIDATE IN MIND? SO I'M SORRY, MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE.

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YOU KEEP AND I'VE HEARD THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES.

LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO PAUSE.

WE DON'T WANT TO NOT MOVE FORWARD.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO EITHER.

SO WHAT INITIATIVES HAVE BEEN PAUSED THAT WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH WHILE WE'RE IN THIS PROCESS? SO IF AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY BIG PICTURE VISION OF WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN THIS WAY.

COUNCIL MAY NOT SUPPORT THIS.

YOU GUYS MAY NOT SUPPORT THIS.

BUT MY BIG PICTURE RIGHT AND I'VE ALREADY SAID WE HAVE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE TO BACKFILL.

WE STILL DO NOT HAVE AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

SO YES, MR. MASHBURN IS SWAMPED WITH HIS DAY TO DAY STUFF AND YES, MR. LAND IS AS WELL.

BUT IF WE CAN BACKFILL THAT POSITION THAT TAKES STUFF OFF OF THEIR PLATE, RIGHT, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH THAT THAT DOES FREE UP MR. LAND THAT HE IS, THAT WE CAN LEND HIM OVER AND HE IS AN ASSET TO YOU GUYS THAT YOU WOULD BE UTILIZING IN THE SAME CAPACITY AS THE CEO.

SO I'M WONDERING WHAT INITIATIVES YOU GUYS HAVE TO STOP IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE HELP THROUGH MR. LAND THAT YOU'RE JUST NOT PAYING FOR WITH THE CEO? WELL, I'LL SPEAK FROM THE CDC PERSPECTIVE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE ONBOARDING OF THIS ROLE, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT PERSON OPERATE MORE SO ON THE EDC SIDE OF THINGS. BUT WHEN WITH OUR CURRENT SHARED RESOURCE THAT PERSON IS SPLIT BETWEEN TWO BOARDS AND I THINK PARTIALLY, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE IN THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.

BUT WE HAVE NOT MOVED FORWARD WITH OUR OWN STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT'D BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'D ASK, LIKE, OUTSIDE OF WE GIVE THEM OVER TO THE EDC, BUT WE WANT HIM TO.

OR HER. SORRY TO BE A PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING.

HEY, I NEED YOU TO CONNECT WITH JOHN.

I NEED YOU TO CONNECT WITH MIKE. I NEED YOU TO GARNER ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THE COUNCIL AS FAR AS WHAT THEY DID WITH THEIR RETREAT AND I NEED YOU TO COME BACK AND WE NEED TO PLAN SOMETHING FOR THE CDC TO HAVE OUR OWN STRATEGIC PLAN IN PLACE THAT'S BASED OFF OF THAT ALIGN THAT AND I WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT PUT TOGETHER.

RIGHT. THAT'S ON PAUSE BECAUSE I CAN'T COORDINATE THAT.

I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT.

RIGHT? AND SO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE STEM CENTER LOOKING INTO YOU KNOW, SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS, PARTNERING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE COULD DO, BUT WE'RE HOLDING OFF BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THE EXPERT THERE TO BE ABLE TO DO THEM THE RIGHT WAY INSTEAD OF GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE WRONG WAY LOOKS LIKE IN ALL PERSPECTIVES, RIGHT? FROM A CDC, EDC, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE.

RIGHT. PREVIOUS STAFF, WE WANT TO REALLY BE SMART ABOUT IT AND WE WANT TO GET THE RIGHT.

YOU GUYS HAVE AMAZING RESOURCES.

WE WANT TO DEDICATED AMAZING RESOURCE RIGHT, THAT WE CAN UTILIZE TO DO THE SAME STUFF AND AGAIN, THAT'S FROM THE CDC PERSPECTIVE.

I'LL LET TERRENCE SPEAK TO EDC.

YEAH, IT'S REAL QUICK AND I APOLOGIZE, I JUST WANT TO PAUSE THIS REAL QUICK BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE FOR SURE THAT THIS IS EVEN A SUSTAINABLE CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH AND GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION ON THIS.

MR. MASHBURN, IF COUNCIL WERE TO SAY YOU BACKFILL YOUR POSITION, YOU HAVE A PERSON DEDICATED TO YOU, ASSISTANT OR DEPUTY OR WHATEVER THAT IS, AND MR. LAND THEN HAS MORE TIME BECAUSE HE'S NOT ASSISTING YOU AS MUCH SINCE HE IS ON A CONTRACT WITH HIS CONTRACT.

ALLOW US TO DIRECT HIM WHERE HE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP FACILITATE THESE PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE, WHERE THEY'RE NOT ON HOLD, WHERE THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND WITH ALL THE INITIATIVES THAT YOU HAVE.

WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD YOUR BOARD UP.

SO BY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE FOR SIX MONTHS, I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK YOU HAVE TO PAUSE FOR SIX MONTHS.

WE DON'T WANT PROJECTS TO BE PAUSED.

THAT'S DETRIMENTAL TO THE CITY.

SO IS THAT EVEN A POSSIBILITY? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A PATHWAY TO DO THAT AND ESPECIALLY WITH DESHAUN IN PLACE.

IS SO SHE DOESN'T DO CITY WORK RIGHT NOW.

SHE'S SOLELY DEVOTED TO YOU ALL.

SO YOU CAN USE [INAUDIBLE] HOWEVER YOU NEED TO BUT WE COULD DO THAT.

CERTAINLY ANOTHER BODY WOULD HELP ON MY SIDE.

I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION, JUST JUMP IN HERE.

I'M HEARING ALL THESE ARGUMENTS AND THINGS BACK AND FORTH.

THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KIND OF BASE IT LIKE THE MCKINNEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS A CEO, IN FACT, HE'S CALLED A PRESIDENT AND CEO AND DOES HE DO ALL THE WORK? NO. HE HAS A STAFF.

HE DOES HAVE A STAFF.

HE HAS A STAFF OF SIX PEOPLE THAT ASSIGN.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ARE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE? NOT AT. WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE EDC SIDE, BUT FOR THE CDC SIDE.

WE WOULD AND THE CDC SIDE FOR MCKINNEY, THEY HAVE JUST A PRESIDENT AND CEO, AND THEY HAVE A SMALL STAFF AS WELL.

BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A STAFF THAT SIDE ON THE CE, ON THE CDC SIDE, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEIR FUND BALANCE.

SO OF COURSE, OURS WOULD BE A LOT SLIMMED DOWN VERSION OF THEM.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEIR FUND BALANCE.

OKAY, I UNDERSTAND AND THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE CEO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY NEED A CEO.

AT WHAT POPULATION DID MCKINNEY AND FRISCO OBTAIN A CEO FOR THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS?

[02:10:01]

I BELIEVE IT WASN'T WHEN THEY WERE 30,000 PEOPLE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. JOHNSON SAID, THE CONSULTANT CAME BACK AND SAID WE WERE FIVE YEARS BEHIND, BASED ON THE SIZE OF OUR CITY AND THE GROWTH OF IT.

ONE THING THAT WHEN WE SAY, AND MADAM MAYOR, ONE THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE CDC SIDE, WHEN WE SAY HOLD ON PROJECTS, WE'RE NOT HOLDING ON CERTAIN PROJECTS, CERTAIN PROJECTS WE ARE.

BUT SO RIGHT NOW, AT THE PATH THAT WE'RE IN, THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND DO IT, BUT WE NEED A DEDICATED PERSON THAT CAN LEAD AND GUIDE AND WHEN I SAY LEAD AND GUIDE, THAT'S LEAD AND GUIDE THE BOARD.

HEY, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.

THESE ARE SOME INITIATIVES THAT I LOOK.

TODAY AS IT STANDS, WE ARE SURVIVING.

WE'RE NOT THRIVING LIKE WE NEED TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS AND GET READY TO.

OUR CDC HAS A LOT OF GOOD TALENT ON THE BOARD.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LOCKED IN, THEY ARE AT MEETINGS, THEY HAVE INPUT.

EVERYBODY'S HAVE DIALOG, THEY'RE TALKING.

WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT WE RESPECT EACH OTHER'S OPINION AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY THAT CAN TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY WHEN WE'RE SAYING WE'RE HOLDING ON SITUATIONS LIKE THAT AND AGAIN, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE THAT THOSE CITIES DIDN'T HAVE THEIR CEO FOR THEIR EDC OR CDC UNTIL THEIR POPULATIONS REACHED AROUND 100,000.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA AND WORKED IN GOVERNMENT SINCE YOU KNOW, I WORKED FOR MCKINNEY PD FROM 74.

SO IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, THEIR POPULATION GREW.

NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE A CEO IF IT'S CALLED THAT OR A MANAGER OR SOMETHING, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WHOEVER IT IS NEEDS TO REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

YEAH. MADAM MAYOR, SO ANYWAY, I'LL GET OFF.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, CAN WE TABLE THIS DISCUSSION TO ANOTHER MEETING? ACTUALLY, IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A RESOLUTION HERE FOR THIS EVENING.

IN THAT THE CDC BECAUSE WE'RE TIRED.

YEAH. THAT IN THE INTEREST OF A TRUE TRUCE THAT THE CDC AND THE CDC BE ALLOWED TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE FOR GOING FORWARD IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND VETTING CANDIDATES, AND LET'S SEE WHO'S OUT THERE.

WE HAVE ALREADY ALL AGREED ON THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE INVOLVEMENT BETWEEN ALL THREE ENTITIES WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND I WOULD TELL YOU I WOULD BE WOEFULLY DISAPPOINTED IF WE MADE ANY DECISION WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM COUNCIL ON TRYING TO MAKE AN OFFER, ANYTHING AND I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH THINGS IN PLACE THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.

ANYWAYS. BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN SIGNIFICANT GUIDANCE AND INPUT FROM MISTER MASHBURN, FROM MISTER LAND AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME FOR THIS EVENING, YOU KNOW, ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO VET YOU'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, RIGHT? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VOICE IN WHO WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHO WE DECIDE TO POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH.

AND IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED, THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A GOOD FIT AT THE MOMENT.

THEN ALL OF THIS EVENING REALLY KIND OF BECOMES A MOOT POINT, DOESN'T IT? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANYBODY IN PLACE THAT WE DON'T ALL AGREE THIS IS THE ROCK STAR THAT WE NEED IN PLACE, RIGHT? WE'RE ALL WANTING TO GO OUT AND FIND THE MICHAEL JORDAN FOR FOR THE DREAM TEAM, SO TO SPEAK.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALLOW US TO KEEP LOOKING FOR THE TALENT.

LET'S IDENTIFY THE TALENT AND WHEN WE FIND THE MICHAEL JORDAN AND EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD AND AGREEING, THEN I THINK WE MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME TALENT IDENTIFIED.

NO, NOT I LIKE THAT.

I LIKE, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT, ACTUALLY.

SO DIRECTIONALLY, I THINK IF WE COULD, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT, WE'LL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AGAIN.

I LOVE THE DIALOG.

FOR THE SAKE OF TIME TONIGHT, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT COMPROMISE FOR EVERYBODY.

AGAIN, I LOVE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS COLLECTIVELY AND JUST SHARE THOSE IDEAS BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU GUYS BRING TO THE TABLE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY THAT WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO OR WE DON'T NECESSARILY SEE FROM YOUR LENS.

SO THANK YOU FOR IT.

SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CDC/EDC TO CONTINUE THEIR INTERVIEW PROCESS FOR A CEO UNTIL WE FIND A VIABLE CANDIDATE.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

[02:15:08]

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO.

I'M GOING TO BORROW THIS JUST FOR A MOMENT.

SIX ZERO FOR THE APPROVAL OF K6 2024-083 TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW PEDC AND CDC.

CDC TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CEO INTERVIEW PROCESS.

FOR THE SAKE OF TONIGHT, CASE SEVEN, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND SKIP THIS TABLE THAT I'M SORRY.[INAUDIBLE] MR. KLEIBER TONIGHT AND TABLE THAT.

SO WE'LL MOVE TO K 8 2024 058 I'M SORRY.

085 CONSIDER APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH NORTH TEXAS SERVICES, LLC AND AUTHORIZE FOR PDC CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE SAID AGREEMENT AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. MAYOR AND BOARDS.

BEFORE YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FROM NORTH TEXAS URBAN SERVICES.

THEY WERE FOUNDED IN 2012.

THEY'RE HEADQUARTERED IN FRISCO, TEXAS, ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE DALLAS STARS PARENT COMPANY WAS FOUNDED IN 1979.

SO THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.

THEY SPECIALIZE IN PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, STRATEGIC PROPERTY ACQUISITION.

I HAVE PERSONALLY USED THEM SINCE 2012.

I THINK I WAS PROBABLY THEIR INITIAL URBAN CLIENT AND BASICALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GET STRATEGIC PLANS FROM GROUPS LIKE YOURS, AND YOU DIRECT THEM TO GET PROPERTY DISCREETLY UNDER CONTRACT. THEY DO THAT IN THEIR NAME.

THEY'RE COMPENSATED THROUGH COMMISSIONS.

THEY GET A 3% COMMISSION IF IT IS FOR SALE PROPERTY, VERY LIKELY THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE TARGETING IS NOT FOR SALE.

IN THAT CASE, THEY GET A 4% COMMISSION.

YOU KNOW THAT UP FRONT.

IF THERE IS ANY REMEDIATION THAT THEY NEED TO DO, THERE'S BASICALLY A 20% FEE FOR THEM TO DO THAT ON TOP OF WHATEVER THAT COST HAS TO BE SOMETHING YOU DIRECT THEM TO DO. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU BUY PROPERTY AND THERE'S A STRUCTURE ON IT AND THAT STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED, THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS MUCH CHEAPER TO DO THAT THAN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. THEY WILL DO THAT AT THEIR COST WITH THE 20% CARRYING FEE.

THEY PUT THE PROPERTY UNDER THEIR NAME AND MAINTAIN THAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL YOU INSTRUCT THEM OTHERWISE.

SO YOU'RE ABLE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTIES UNDER A BUSINESS'S NAME THAT'S ALSO IN DEVELOPMENT AND THE WORD IS NOT OUT NECESSARILY THAT THE EDC OR THE CITY IS BUYING PROPERTY AND THEY'VE DONE THIS VERY SUCCESSFULLY FOR, YOU KNOW, SINCE 2012.

THE PROPERTY THAT WE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS THE ONE THAT THEY RESEARCHED FOR US AND WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THAT PRICE.

SO PREVIOUSLY AT THE EARLIER COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL APPROVED THEIR PART OF THIS.

THIS IS A JOINT AGREEMENT WITH BOTH THE EDC AND THE CITY.

SO I CAN ENTERTAIN YOUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. IF NOT, I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. OR DOES THAT COME FROM US? [INAUDIBLE] I MAKE A MOTION.

THANK YOU. OKAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE NTXUS PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT BE APPROVED FOR OUR USE WITH OUR EDC COMMITTEE, PRINCETON AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. BY MR. MILLER BY A SHOW OF HANDS WHO.

ANY OPPOSED.

THE MOTION IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR REPORT AGENDA.

NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS CAN BE MONDAY, MAY 13TH, 2024 AT 6:30 P.M..

[REPORT AGENDA]

BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, LISTENING AND PARTICIPATING IN DIALOG.

WOULD YOU GUYS JUST BY A SIMPLE BECAUSE WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT, BUT JUST GIVE ME SOME SORT OF SEMBLANCE THAT YOU MIGHT BE AGREEANCE TO THIS.

WOULD YOU GUYS BE OKAY WITH HAVING MORE WORKSHOP SESSIONS? NOT NECESSARILY MEETINGS LIKE THIS, BUT JUST WORKSHOPS WHERE WE CAN TALK THROUGH SOME ITEMS AND WE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE COHESIVE IN HOW WE WANT TO GO.

WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING TO COMMIT TIME TO? GREAT. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU.

IF I CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COUNCIL, PLEASE, YOUR HONOR, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN A SECOND.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. THANK YOU, AND EDC, CDC NEED TO DO THE SAME.

ALL RIGHT. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? ALL RIGHT. MOTION MADE BY PAT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL ADJOURNED.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR THE CDC.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? GOT MISTER WATSON SECOND BY MISTER EVANS.

ALL THAT'S IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.