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[A. CALL TO ORDER]
WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, SO WE WILL PROCEED.PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES AND STAND AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
FOR ALL. MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC.
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ARE THERE ANY. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC APPEARANCE? NOT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[D. CONSENT AGENDA]
ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER.
D ONE. THE MINUTES OF THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 19TH.
D TWO, ITEM F P 2021 1270 FINAL PLAT.
IVY LEAGUE SUB EDITION, LOT ONE, BLOCK ONE AND ITEM D THREE, WHICH IS FP20220618.
FINAL PLAT WINMORE, PHASE TWO.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CAN WE OPEN THE VOTING, PLEASE? IT CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.
IT'S NOT POPPING UP. THANK YOU.
[E. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
ITEM E1, ORDERLY GROWTH ORDINANCE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240923 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS, ENACTING AND ENACTING AND IMPOSING A MORATORIUM ON THE ACCEPTANCE, AUTHORIZATION AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, CONSISTING OF THE SUBDIVISION PLATING, CONSTRUCTION, RECONSTRUCTION, OR OTHER ALTERATION OR IMPROVEMENT THEREOF FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY'S CORPORATE LIMITS AND EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.ADOPTING WRITTEN FINDINGS, JUSTIFYING THE MORATORIUM, PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY, EXPIRATION, EXTENSION, LIMITED EXCEPTIONS AND WAIVERS, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND CONTAINING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
FIRST OF ALL, SORRY FOR THE LONG MOTION.
SO IT'S A LOT OF NECESSARY LANGUAGE WE HAVE TO HAVE.
I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR NORMAL MEETING DATE AND MEETING TIME.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS AS YOU'LL SEE LATER ON IN THE A PRESENTATION.
THIS THIS HEARING IS NECESSARY AS THE FIRST STEP IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE MORATORIUM.
I'M THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THE PRESENTATION.
THIRD FASTEST GROWING PER CAPITA BY THE US CENSUS.
SO ACCORDINGLY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS FACING SIGNIFICANT LAND USE CHALLENGES.
SO IN RESPONSE, THE CITY HAS LOOKED INTO POTENTIAL AVENUES IN ORDER TO HELP, YOU KNOW, PLAN FOR ORDERLY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE CITY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES ARE, LIKE I SAID, UP TO PAR AND KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH THE UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH AND DEMAND THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. SO, ARE YOU READY? ON TO THE NEXT. YOU'RE GOOD.
GO BACK. ONE SLIDE, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
SO I GUESS THE INITIAL QUESTION IS WHAT IS A MORATORIUM?
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RIGHT. IT'S AN INTERESTING WORD.AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT AUTHORIZES CITIES TO ESSENTIALLY STOP ALL PERMITTING.
APPROVALS OR OTHER FORMS OF AUTHORIZATION RELATED TO PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT CAN BE RESIDENTIAL AND OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
FOR A DEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME.
SO AND WE'LL ALSO GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE, HERE SOON.
SO A MORATORIUM UNDER STATE LAW IS JUSTIFIED BY DEMONSTRATING ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING.
THE FIRST BEING A SHORTAGE OF ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES.
SO THAT IS I THINK WATER, WASTEWATER, ROADWAY STORM DRAINAGE AND ALSO AND OR A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES TO POLICE, FIRE, PARKS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, ETC..
SO IN SUM, A MORATORIUM, JUST AS AN OVERVIEW IS A IT'S A PROCEDURAL MECHANISM THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN IMPLEMENT THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO KIND OF PLAN, PREPARE AND PROVIDE FOR ORDERLY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE CITY.
AND WHEN IT'S IN EFFECT, IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO KIND OF UPDATE ITS DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES, ZONING ORDINANCES, SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES, AND ALSO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO NEXT SLIDE.
SO, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TOMMY MAPP, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE CITY.
TOMMY MAPP, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
BUT THAT CAPACITY IS DRAWING VERY CLOSE TO THE TIMELINE OF HOW MANY CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE ON OUR SYSTEMS VERSUS WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEXT MAJOR SYSTEM UPGRADE WILL BE ANOTHER ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT WILL ADD SOME CAPACITY.
BUT WHERE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW IS APPROXIMATELY WE CAN SERVICE APPROXIMATELY 30,000 CONNECTIONS.
SO WE COULD HAVE 30,000, BUT WE STILL HAVE A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO MEET THEIR FLOWS AS WELL.
SO WE NEED TO FACTOR THAT INTO THE AVAILABILITY OF WATER FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
SO, WE'RE SITTING AT CURRENTLY ABOUT 572 CONNECTIONS.
WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT WE WILL HIT THAT 30,000 CONNECTION POINT IN LESS THAN THREE YEARS.
THE NEXT ELEVATED STORAGE PROJECT, WHICH WILL ADD THE MOST AMOUNT OF CAPACITY TO THE SYSTEM, IS SET TO BE COMPLETED IN MID 2027. SO WE ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT TIMELINE NOW.
AND SO THE, THE MAIN CAPACITY RESTRAINT THERE WILL BE FOR NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.
BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD CONNECTIONS WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA, WHICH OUR SERVICE AREA FOR OUR WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS, ARE LARGER, MUCH LARGER THAN THE ACTUAL CITY LIMITS. SO THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN IN THE ETJ AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SERVE.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE.
AS WE ALL KNOW, THE ROADWAYS IN THE CITY OF PRINCETON ARE NOT THE GREATEST.
AND SO TO CATCH UP AND GET THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE WE NEED IT.
WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO REDO OUR WATER, WASTEWATER AND ROADWAY IMPACT FEE STUDIES AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS SO THAT WE KNOW HOW TO GROW, WHERE TO GROW, AND THE BASED ON FUTURE POPULATIONS.
BECAUSE WHEN THE LAST STUDIES WERE DONE IN 2019, THEY WERE UPDATED.
BUT THOSE PLANS WERE BASED AROUND A SEVEN HOME PER ACRE.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, A FOUR HOME PER ACRE.
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SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.IT'S ACTUALLY DEVELOPING CLOSER TO SEVEN LOTS PER ACRE.
CULLEOKA IS DEVELOPING CLOSER TO TEN.
SO WE FEEL THAT THOSE PLANS NEED TO BE UPDATED.
WE HAVE ALREADY INITIATED THAT PROCESS WITH ENGINEERING.
AND THOSE PLANS WILL BE AVAILABLE NEXT SPRING.
AND THAT WILL KIND OF HELP US DICTATE AND DECIDE WHERE THESE PROJECTS NEED TO HAPPEN TO.
ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THIS GROWTH THAT IS HAPPENING AND COMING TO THE AREA.
SO WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR IT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SERVE THROUGH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEMS. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO I KNOW THIS IS WITH THE FOUR-MONTH PERIOD IS WITH THE OPTION TO EXTEND PAST THAT.
RIGHT? SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE OUR ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AND DESIGN, AND WE HAVE THE NEXT PROJECT AS FAR AS WATER STORAGE FOR GROUNDWATER IN THE VERY BEGINNING PHASES AS WELL, THAT WILL KIND OF SLOW IT DOWN ENOUGH FOR US TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO MEET THAT TIMELINE AND THAT'S BEST-CASE SCENARIO.
SO, WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE NEEDED.
WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NECESSARY.
AND SO THAT IS GOING TO ACCOUNT FOR GROWTH INTO THE FUTURE.
BUT AS FAR AS WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, THINGS LIKE THAT, INTERCEPTOR MAINS, LARGE TRANSMISSION MAINS THAT WE NEED THROUGHOUT THE REMAINDER OF THE CITY ROADWAY PROJECTS TOO. WE'RE STARTING A TRAFFIC FLOW ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY TO REALLY DICTATE AND DETERMINE A NEW THOROUGHFARE PLAN WHERE THE ROADWAY IS NEEDED, WHAT'S GOING TO SUIT OUR RESIDENTS THE BEST. AND SO, YES, THOSE PLANS ARE GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THROUGH, BUT WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE NOW TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN THAT'S OUT THERE. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON THE DESIGN PROCESS, WHICH IS A PRETTY LENGTHY PROCESS FOR THE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
SO ONCE THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ONCE THOSE REACHED THE POINT WHERE WE CAN CONSTRUCT THEM, THEN WE CAN RELEASE FUNDS AND GO TO CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE. WE ALREADY HAVE THE FUNDS SITTING THERE.
IT'S JUST A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH DESIGN, BID, CONSTRUCT, AND IT TAKES ABOUT TWO YEARS FROM THE TIME AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS DESIGNED TO ACTUALLY BEING IN SERVICE.
SO FOR FOUR MONTHS JUST DIDN'T SOUND LIKE A VERY LONG TIME TO ME.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS THERE ANY LIKELIHOOD THAT THAT YOU WILL.
THAT WE WOULD EXTEND PAST THE FOUR-MONTH PERIOD? THAT IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE RIGHT NOW? BUT LIKE I SAY THAT THAT DELAYING THE FOUR MONTHS WOULD GET US AHEAD OF THE CURVE TO WHERE THOSE PROJECTS COULD BE ONLINE BY THE TIME THAT GROWTH ACTUALLY GETS HERE.
IF WE HAD A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM.
AND THAT'S THE ABSOLUTE BEST-CASE SCENARIO RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK IT'S A WISE DECISION TO KIND OF SLOW THE GROWTH AND DECIDE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS AND IT TAKES A LOT OF INPUT FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
WE'RE WORKING WITH TXDOT AND COLLIN COUNTY SURROUNDING WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS, NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WE'RE WORKING IN ALL THESE CLOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND RELATIONSHIPS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE THAT WE NEED.
BUT IT'S WE'RE GROWING ASTRONOMICALLY FAST.
THESE ALL-LINE ITEMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, LIKE EASEMENTS FOR OR IS THAT STILL PART OF THE PROCESS? NO, SIR. WE ALREADY OWN THE LAND FOR THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
WE OWN THE LAND FOR THE GROUND STORAGE TANKS THAT WILL BE BUILT.
SO WE ALREADY OWN ALL OF THAT.
WHENEVER WE START LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GROW.
BECAUSE THE INITIAL CIP AND IMPACT FEE PLANS WERE BASED ALSO ON OUR OLD ETJ, OUR ETJ HAS GROWN BY A MILE, AND SO THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT'S GOING TO BE INFLUENCED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS AND THOSE IMPACT FEE PLANS TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN CONSTRUCT THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
I DIDN'T HEAR YOU MENTION ANYTHING.
ANYTHING MUCH ABOUT STORM DRAINAGE.
MOST OF IT'S BEEN ABOUT SUPPLYING WATER.
BUT AS THERE IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN AS WELL.
WE DON'T HAVE A ACTUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR STORMWATER.
WHAT WE DO HAVE IS WHAT'S CALLED AN MS4 PERMIT, AND THAT IS DICTATED BY THE STATE.
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SO WE HAVE PROGRAMS IN THERE FOR CAPACITY MANAGEMENT AND MAKING SURE THINGS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR, THAT IS ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE.WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST GO AHEAD AND SET SIX MONTHS.
IF WE'RE NOT SURE IF THE FOUR MONTHS IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH, WHY WOULDN'T WE DO SIX MONTHS? I'LL DEFER TO GRANT SO I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
AND I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO ADDRESS IT.
SO THE 120 DAYS IS SET BY STATE LAW.
SO THAT 100 IT SPECIFIES IN STATUTE 120 DAYS.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S 120 DAYS.
IT'S SPECIFIED UNDER STATE LAW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MATT? YOUR FIVE YEAR ESTIMATED SERVICE ACCOUNTS FOR PRINCETON AT 33,000.
SO, THE 33,000 CONNECTIONS IN THE FUTURE INCLUDES BOTH KOHLI AND PRINCETON.
AND SO YEAH, WE WILL BE SETTING CLOSE TO THAT 30,000 MARK JUST WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF.
YEAH, THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION.
SO THE IT SAYS ON THE FIVE YEAR APPROXIMATE SERVICE ACCOUNTS PRINCETON YOU'RE ESTIMATING 33,000.
IS THAT ONLY ASSUMING THE LOTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED TO BE BUILT, OR ARE YOU ESTIMATING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE YEAR OVER YEAR TO BE ADDED TO THAT? THAT'S BASED ON A 20% ANNUAL GROWTH AND THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
WE'VE BEEN HITTING HIGHER THAN THAT.
SO DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ACRES OF CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ARE STILL AVAILABLE? I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER, NO.
COULD YOU, I GUESS, REPHRASE? I GUESS THE TIME FRAME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO HAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETED.
OKAY. SO THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK WE, THAT'S SCHEDULED TO BE CONSTRUCTED BY MID 2027.
THE FIRST GROUND STORAGE TANK IMPROVEMENT WILL BE SCHEDULED TO.
IT'S SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED AROUND 2030.
AND THEN THE FINAL ONE AT FOREST GROVE WOULD BE SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED BY 2033.
WHAT'S THE CURRENT CAPACITY OF THE FOREST GROVE GROUND STORAGE TANK THAT'S ALREADY THERE? THAT IS A 4 MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK, AND THERE'S ROUGHLY 100.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE 200 GALLONS PER CONNECTION IN GROUND STORAGE.
SO ARE YOU LOOKING TO ADD FIVE ADDITIONAL MILLION OR JUST ONE ADDITIONAL MILLION? NO. WE'LL BE ADDING 2.5 AT THE DOGWOOD STATION AND 5 MILLION GALLONS AT THE AT THE FOREST GROVE STATION.
SO THE FOREST GROVE OF THE FINAL CAPACITY WOULD BE 9 MILLION.
AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT SHOULD CARRY US OUT AT LEAST THROUGH THE END OF THE NEXT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE EVALUATED ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
SO. WITHIN THE FOUR MONTHS, ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THE MORATORIUM THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND SAY THEY FALL UNDER AN EXCEPTION.
THERE GOES THE MORATORIUM RIGHT OUT.
YOU'RE YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH LINE ON ALL THESE.
SO, YES, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE MORATORIUM.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY THERE'S THREE PRIMARY EXCEPTIONS.
ONE OF THEM IS AN ONGOING PROGRESS PROJECT IN PROGRESS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A VALID ACTIVE PERMIT BEFORE THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM GOES INTO EFFECT, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 19TH A GRANDFATHERED PROJECT WHERE YOU HAVE A VESTED RIGHT UNDER CHAPTER 245 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OR AN EXECUTED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO NOT JUST ONE THAT'S IN THE WORKS, BUT ONE THAT'S BEEN FORMALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE EXCEPTIONS, ASSUMING THE PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO THE MORATORIUM.
IF IT FALLS UNDER THOSE THREE EXCEPTIONS, IT IS EXCEPTED FROM THE MORATORIUM, AND STAFF CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE OR DENY THOSE EXCEPTIONS IF THEY DENY IT, THE APPLICANT OR PROPERTY OWNER DEVELOPER, THEY CAN APPEAL TO COUNCIL.
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THERE'S ALSO WAIVER PROVISIONS TOO, BUT I'LL I DON'T WANT TO STEAL CHIEF WATERS THUNDER, SO I'LL KIND OF PUT A PIN IN THAT AND WE'LL GET TO IT IN A COUPLE SLIDES.OKAY. BUT THOSE EXCEPTIONS ARE THEY FACTORED INTO THESE NUMBERS ALREADY.
BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME OF THESE EXCEPTIONS OUT THERE ALREADY.
SO SOME OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS ARE FACTORED IN.
YES. THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY ENTITLED, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IT DOESN'T GET US ALL THE WAY THERE.
SO, I MEAN, THE ESTIMATES ARE THAT WE THAT IF WE CAN GET THIS ONLINE BY MID 2027, THEN WE WILL BE MEETING THE TIMELINE THAT WE NEED FOR POPULATION GROWTH.
AND THAT'S BASED ON THE 20% GROWTH.
SO IF WE CAN SLOW THAT DOWN, THAT BUYS US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
AND SO NOT ALL OF THAT'S ALREADY ENTITLED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO NOT ALL OF THE GROWTH THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IS NOT GOING TO GET US TO THAT NUMBER, BUT ANYTHING THAT ADDITIONAL THAT CAME IN WOULD GET US TO THAT NUMBER.
FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, I'M CURIOUS HOW MUCH OF THIS IS RELYING ON COMMERCIAL IMPACT FEES, SALES TAX AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MAY DRIVE AWAY POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS FROM A SCREECHING HALT TO INFLUX OF RESIDENTS.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, FOR THE INITIAL PHASES OF OF OUR NEXT STORAGE TANK PROJECTS, THOSE ARE FUNDED THROUGH CURRENT IMPACT FEES THAT WE'VE ALREADY COLLECTED. AND SO IT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT INTO WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD FINANCIAL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT AND THE IMPACT FEES GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE NEW IMPACT FEES NEED TO BE.
THE IMPACT FEE STUDY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY STARTING.
SO BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE FUNDS TO COMPLETE THIS PLAN.
AND I MEAN, THEY COULD PULL OFF THE TABLE AND DECIDE NOT TO COME HERE.
YEAH. WAIT ANOTHER 20 YEARS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERATION THAT STAFFS LOOKED INTO.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL IS AN AREA OF NEED.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE DONE THE CARVE OUT FOR COMMERCIAL.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL UNDERSTAND MOVING FORWARD.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO I JUST WANTED TO I WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON THAT LATER, JUST THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, NOT COMMERCIAL. OKAY.
SO THE WATER CAPACITY, WATER CAPACITY USAGE.
YOU GUYS HAVE PLANNED ON 20% GROWTH.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE WE'RE KEEPING IN MIND? YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, SAY CAR WASHES OR A LAGOON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS GOING TO UTILIZE A LOT MORE WATER RESOURCES THAN SAY, YOU KNOW, A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I GUESS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THE CAPACITY OR THAT THE CAPACITY IS EXPANDED AT THE SAME RATE THAT THE NEED IS? SO A LOT OF THAT IS FACTORED INTO THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF THAT.
THAT'S WHEN WE DID THE BRIEF UPDATE TO THE CIP PLANS AND 2022.
THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
ALL OF IT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
IT'S JUST NOT AS FULL AND IN DEPTH AS A AS A TRUE IMPACT FEE STUDY IS.
SO THAT WAS JUST AN UPDATE TO THE ONE THAT WE HAD DONE IN 2019.
AND NOW THIS YEAR IS THE FIVE YEAR MARK WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE FULLY REDONE ANYWAY.
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SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO UPDATE THE CIP PLANS IN ITS ENTIRETY EVERY FIVE YEARS.SO AND IT TYPICALLY LOOKS OUT TO TEN YEARS.
SO CAN YOU CLARIFY AT THE END OF FOUR MONTHS WHAT OUR GOAL IS.
WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE? IS IT JUST FOR THE BREATHING ROOM, OR IS THERE MORE THAT YOU'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH DURING THOSE FOUR MONTHS? WELL, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST ONE PORTION OF WHAT'S BEING HOPED TO ACCOMPLISH, AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL I CAN SPEAK TO.
BUT BUT NO, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT BREATHING ROOM.
WE'RE LOOKING TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DEVELOPING AND KIND OF ADJUST HOW DEVELOPMENTS ARE APPROVED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BUT THAT'S COMING AT A LATER SLIDE.
BUT BUT SO THAT BUT LIKE GOING BACK, THAT'S REALLY THE DRIVING FACTOR IS, IS THE DENSITIES.
WE'VE THERE'S A LOT OF SMALLER LOTS BEING APPROVED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WHENEVER YOU TAKE IT FROM A FOUR TO A SEVEN LOT PER ACRE DENSITY, THAT'S THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.
I MEAN, IT'S AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WASN'T ACTUALLY PLANNED FOR.
SO LOOKING AT THESE PLANS AND UPDATING THEM TO CURRENT TRENDS, FUTURE GROWTH REQUIREMENTS, WORKING WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT STEPS AND WHAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
DO YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE LOT PER ACRE FOR JUST INSIDE CITY LIMITS? JUST INSIDE CITY LIMITS? I DON'T KNOW IT AS A WHOLE.
I KNOW THAT IT LIKE I SAID, IT STARTED AT FOUR, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS AGO AND THEN IT CREPT CLOSER.
NOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S CLOSER TO SEVEN, SO IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 4 AND 7.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION FOR MR. MAPP? THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER BORDEN. JAMES WATERS, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'M PRETTY SURE MOST OF YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF OUR DAILY CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING WITH INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF PRINCETON. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT HIGH.
SOME OF WHERE I'M ABOUT TO COME FROM.
WE'RE DOING NOTHING BUT TO PROJECT ON THAT.
LAST YEAR WE RAN A STRATEGIC GROWTH PLAN JUST FOR WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT LAST YEAR, AND I WAS DOWN ROUGHLY 28 OFFICERS WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT LAST YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON INVITING RESIDENTS WITHIN.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON DRIVING COMMERCE, BUSINESSES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
WE'RE TRYING TO STOP THE TRAFFIC FLOW FROM GOING OUT.
BUT THE UNFORTUNATE PART IS THAT MEANS THERE'S MORE DRIVERS ON THE ROADWAY, THERE'S MORE ISSUES THAT HAPPEN, AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO COMBAT THOSE ISSUES THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO THE UNFORTUNATE PART IS, IS YOU SEE OUR TIER ONE AND TIER TWO NUMBERS RISE.
SO WHERE WAS IT LAST YEAR? WE WERE 55TH SAFEST CITY INSIDE THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHICH THAT'S A HUMONGOUS HONOR.
ODDS ARE THE MORE AND MORE THESE CRIME RATES RISE, THE LESS AND LESS THAT WAR, THE MORE AND MORE WE'LL KEEP ON DROPPING OFF OF THAT, ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT'S GOING TO END UP BEING OUT THERE.
SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, IS DROPPING DOWN TO A TWO LANE ROADWAY.
SO WE HAVE TO OPERATE THE CITY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE AS TWO CITIES, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE UNITS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN TRAVELING TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, OR VICE VERSA, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THERE, IT'S ALREADY BAD AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE TOO AS WELL. SO, WE HAVE A LOT OF MITIGATING FACTORS THAT'S GOING TO END UP HURTING US AND HARMING US.
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OFFICERS. AT THE LEAST EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYERS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR MONEY COMES FROM IS THE TAXPAYERS.AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THAT'S THAT.
THAT IS WHAT IT IS. AND SO I DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON PLANS ON HOW TO DO THAT.
BUT I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS IF Y'ALL HAVE.
ANYONE? WHEN DID YOU SAY YOU NEEDED THE 28 OFFICERS? WAS IT LAST YEAR? LAST YEAR? YES, MA'AM.
OKAY. AND IS IT JUST A RECRUITING ISSUE, OR ARE WE NOT.
DO WE NOT HAVE THE FUNDING? NO, MA'AM.
SO. AND I KNOW EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW BUDGET WORKS, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF I'LL RUN THROUGH THIS AND I'LL DO THE SAME THING WITH MY OFFICERS AND ALL THAT WITH INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OR WITH INSIDE THE CITY OF PRINCETON.
THE CITY ONLY BRINGS IN SO MUCH TAX DOLLARS PER YEAR.
AND SO WHENEVER YOU START BREAKING DOWN THE TAX MONEY AND YOU START ALLOCATING THAT OUT THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT, YOU HAVE USUALLY PUBLIC SAFETY GETS ROUGHLY ABOUT HALF OF THAT, AND THEN ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS GET A PORTION OF THAT TOO AS WELL.
SO THE REST OF IT IS KIND OF SPLIT UP BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO IF YOU'RE BREAKING FOR A MILLION AND A HALF, IT'S 2 MILLION.
AND THEN YOUR TWO MAIN PUBLIC SAFETY ENTITIES ARE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT WE KNOW YOU PAY THE INSURANCE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
LET'S JUST SAY IT'S 100,000, RIGHT? WELL, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TEN OFFICERS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BUT WE HAVE ANCILLARY ITEMS TOO AS WELL, BECAUSE EACH OFFICER, YOU GOT TO OUTFIT THEM, YOU GOT TO TRAIN THEM. THERE'S FUEL COSTS.
THERE'S MAINTENANCE COSTS ON VEHICLES.
THERE'S ALL SORTS OF ANCILLARY THINGS THAT'S OUT THERE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE OFFICERS.
SO THAT TEN OFFICERS QUICKLY STARTS DWINDLING DOWN OUT OF THAT 1 MILLION.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS NEEDS MONEY TOO.
SO WE CAN'T GO OUT AND WE NEED WE CAN'T GO OUT AND STEAL MONEY FROM PUBLIC WORKS.
WE CAN'T GO OUT AND STEAL MONEY FROM PARKS.
WE CAN'T GO OUT AND STEAL MONEY.
SO EVERYBODY HAS TO BE KIND OF EQUALLY AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, DISTRIBUTED AMONGST EACH OTHER.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN EFFECTIVELY MAKE THE CITY RUN.
HOW WOULD A MORATORIUM SUPPORT YOU IN MAKING THOSE ENDS MEET? SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER, WORKING WITH COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT AND THE ATTORNEYS, THE MORATORIUM PART ASPECT IS PROBABLY GOING TO HELP SET UP THIS NEXT I GUESS, PHASE, THIS NEXT PART.
AS FAR AS SETTING UP ON HOW WE CAN HELP BEST SUPPORT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT SIDE OF IT.
SO I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME ITEMS OF DISCUSSION TO BE ABLE TO RUN INTO.
BUT ALSO THE MORATORIUM PART WILL KIND OF HELP SLOW THAT DOWN.
SO LET ME GIVE YOU ANOTHER GOOD STAT.
SO I'M LOOKING AT JUST SHY OF A YEAR BEFORE WE SEE THE EFFECT OF THAT ONE OFFICER THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS KIND OF SITTING BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AS IS.
AND THEN EVERY YEAR WE GOT TO WAIT ON BUDGET AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO END UP COMING IN AND THEN HOW MUCH FULL TIME EMPLOYEES WE'RE GOING TO BE ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED AND ALL THIS STUFF.
SO I DO THINK A MORATORIUM WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY TO KIND OF HELP IMPLEMENT SOME GAME PLANS THAT'S GOING ON THAT I'M PRETTY SURE MR. LOWRY WILL HELP INTRODUCE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE WORKING ON A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
AND SO THAT WAY WE CAN SAY, OKAY, HEY, LOOK, IF THIS GROWTH RATE CONTINUES AND THIS PATTERN CONTINUES ON WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW, I GOT TO LOOK OUT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND NOT JUST PLAN FOR TODAY, BUT I GOT TO TRY TO PROJECT OUT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW I'M JUST TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP.
SO, FORGETTING EVERYTHING ELSE, JUST LET'S ASSUME IT'S JUST YOU HANDLING THE DEPARTMENT.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE.
HOWEVER MUCH THE MORATORIUM HELPS YOU OUT TO KIND OF CATCH UP, CATCH YOUR BREATH.
SET UP FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN WE'RE WHEN YOU'RE DIVIDED INTO WHAT WOULD BE IF IT WAS EXTENDED, HOW LONG WOULD IT BE EXTENDED FOR WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE IT WOULD HELP, ACTUALLY HELP YOU CATCH YOUR BREATH.
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SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A TRICK QUESTION A LITTLE BIT OR IT'S A TWO PART QUESTION, RIGHT? NOT A TRICK QUESTION, BUT IT'S A TWO PART QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT A MORATORIUM IN AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE.BUT I'M STILL DOWN OFFICERS TODAY.
RIGHT. WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO WHAT THE MORATORIUM IS FOR US IS TO KIND OF SLOW EVERYTHING DOWN AND LET THE PEOPLE TO WORK ON THE GAME, PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO BEST START SUPPLEMENTING THE PD AND SUPPLEMENTING THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT AND FIND WAYS AROUND IT ON HOW BEST TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SO, I MEAN, WE CAN RUN A MORATORIUM FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS AND ALL THIS STUFF.
BUT IF WE'RE NOT ADDING IN THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ME ANY FAVORS.
WOULD THAT NOT JUST PAUSE YOUR BUDGET AND JUST KIND OF STALEMATE YOU.
YES, MA'AM. EXCELLENT QUESTION.
SO IT DEFINITELY COULD AND THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT IT MIGHT, BUT UNTIL A GAME PLAN IS PUT INTO PLACE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE ALWAYS JUST KIND OF CONSTANTLY FIGHT THAT UPHILL BATTLE.
AND SO MOST PDS, WHENEVER THEY'RE FIGHTING THAT UPHILL BATTLE, THEY'RE USUALLY ABOUT TWO YEARS BEHIND BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU START SEEING THE TAX GENERATE COME IN IS EVERY TWO YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE SITTING AT ROUGHLY ABOUT SIX YEARS BEHIND RIGHT NOW.
YOU SAID YOU'RE ALREADY 30 OFFICERS ROUGHLY BEHIND IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
WHAT'S FOUR MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS, 12 MONTHS? WHAT'S THAT? I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT DEFINITELY AT THIS POINT BETWEEN YOU AND MR. MAPP AND WE'RE TALKING YEARS, NOT MONTHS.
CORRECT. AND SO I BELIEVE THE TWO THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT IS ONE IS THE STRATEGIC GAME PLAN THAT WE'RE COMING UP FOR THE FIVE YEAR MARK, BUT ALSO IS GOING TO BE THE GAME PLAN THAT'S COMING IN AS FAR AS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF REVENUE COMING INTO THE PD, AND I THINK THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT'S OUT THERE.
MORATORIUM, I THINK THERE'S VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE CAN START BRINGING IN.
A DIFFERENT SET OF REVENUE AND TO TRY TO HELP PLAY CATCH UP AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
BUT I'LL LET. MR. LOWRY KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT WITHOUT GIVING OUT TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
I JUST HAVE TO AGREE WITH NIKKI.
I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW FOUR MONTHS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP IN SUCH A LARGE.
SCHEME OF EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.
HOW IS FOUR MONTHS GOING TO REALLY HELP? BECAUSE. CONSTRUCTION REALLY IS GOING TO KIND OF START SLOWING DOWN WITH FALL AND WINTER ANYWAY BECAUSE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS. SO BY PUTTING A FOUR MONTH, HOW IS THAT REALLY GOING TO BENEFIT OR HELP US? ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.
SO LIKE I SAID, THE 120 DAYS IS SPECIFIED IN STATE LAW.
SO I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S WITH THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT THE CITY OF PRINCETON HAS BEEN SEEING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, I DON'T THINK ANYONE SITTING HERE AND SAYING THAT 120 DAYS IS ENOUGH TIME.
I THINK IT'S A START AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, 90, 100, 100 DAYS FROM NOW TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF SIT BACK, ASSESS WHERE WE'RE AT AND NOT JUST CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, APPROVE A BUNCH OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS LEFT AND RIGHT.
AND AS FAR AS THE NEED FOR POLICE FACILITIES.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON RESIDENTIAL YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, THE POPULATION.
SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SLOW THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
SO, SO IF WE DID END UP DECIDING TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM, IS THAT ANOTHER 120 DAYS EACH TIME THAT'S DONE? THAT'S A IT'S A SET NUMBER.
CORRECT. YOU CAN DO SHORTER THAN THAT, BUT IT'S UP TO 120 DAYS.
AND YOU CAN I'VE SEEN MUNICIPALITIES DO IT FOR, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 YEARS ON END OR SOME JUST 120 DAYS.
IT DEPENDS ON LIKE I SAID, WE'LL COME BACK YOU KNOW, IN 90, 100, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TIME PERMITS AND ASSESS WHERE WE'RE AT AND SEE IF AN EXTENSION IS, IS JUSTIFIED AND NECESSARY.
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT? WHEN YOU SAY MORATORIUM ON CONSTRUCTION RESIDENTIAL HALTING.
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CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.SO WHAT'S YOUR I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IS, IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME.
AND THERE'S VERY TIGHT SPECIFIC TIMEFRAMES ON HOW TO DO THAT.
NOTICING PUBLIC HEARINGS, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR APART THE MEETINGS HAVE TO BE.
TEMPORARY MORATORIUM GOES INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 19TH.
AND SO THIS IS WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CAN STOP ACCEPTING PERMITS, AUTHORIZATIONS, ETC., AS LONG AS THE MORATORIUM IS FULLY AND FINALLY ADOPTED BY COUNCIL WITHIN THAT SPECIFIED TIME FRAME.
SO WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER.
BUT THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THIS MORATORIUM? WHAT IS THIS MORATORIUM APPLY TO? IT'S RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT ONLY.
SO NOT COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE CITY'S CORPORATE LIMITS AND ETJ.
LIKE I SAID, I TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE EARLIER AS WELL, BUT THE PURPOSE IS TO ALLOW THE CITY TO ASSESS AND REVIEW ITS SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ZONING ORDINANCE, SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
AS WE'VE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF TIMES WITH NOTICING THE PROPER PUBLIC HEARING, HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND HAVING A, YOU KNOW, A JUSTIFICATION TO EXTEND IT. THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS AND WAIVERS TO THE MORATORIUM, THE THREE EXCEPTIONS BEING ONGOING PROJECTS OR PROJECTS IN PROGRESS.
GRANDFATHERED PROJECTS WITH VESTED RIGHTS AND EXECUTED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS SO FULLY AND FINALLY EXECUTED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BY COUNCIL, NOT THOSE IN WORKS AND NEGOTIATIONS. THESE ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED AND DENIED.
IF THEY'RE DENIED, THEN IT GOES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
WAIVERS IF AN EXCEPTION DOES NOT APPLY AND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE MORATORIUM, THEN THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY CAN REQUEST A WAIVER IN WRITING AND THE CITY WILL HAVE A FORM.
AND ONCE THEY FILL OUT PROPERLY, FILL OUT AND SUBMIT THE SAME IN WRITING TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TEN DAYS UNDER STATE LAW TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY THE WAIVER.
IS KIND OF THE FIRST MAIN STEP TO THE PROCESS.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TOMMY AND CHIEF WATERS HERE, TOO.
IF THERE'S ANY LAST, LAST QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION.
YEAH. CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE PERMITTED? SO, FOR INSTANCE, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE ANY MORE PLATS, PRELIMINARY PLATS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SEE US THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE.
LIKE, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S A PRELIMINARY PLAT WE'VE ALREADY PASSED.
SURE. WE'D HAVE A FINAL PLAT, BUT WILL WE SEE ANY MORE PRELIMINARY PLATS? SO FOR RESIDENTIAL.
SO WHEN YOU IF THERE'S A VALID DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE, IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
SO PLATS YOU KNOW, APPROVALS ETCETERA.
DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF LIKE WHAT? WHAT'S THE VOLUME? I AM NOT GOING TO.
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I KNOW THAT'S A QUESTION A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE AS WELL, IS, WELL, DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU HAVE A MORATORIUM OR WE START STOPPING 40 FOOT LOT LINE HOMES? ET CETERA. WE'VE DEVELOPED THAT.SO THAT'S LIVE ONLINE ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW.
CAN YOU TELL US WHERE IT IS ONLINE? I CAN SHARE A LINK WITH THE COMMISSION AFTER THE MEETING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISTER LOWRY? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? NOTHING FURTHER. OKAY.
YEP. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:18 P.M..
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:18 P.M..
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSION? I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A BAND AID ON A BULLET WOUND, AND IT'S GOING TO GIVE US A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY AND LEAVE US HEMORRHAGING.
I FEEL LIKE THAT THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO COMBAT THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH RESIDENTIALLY ZONED OPEN LAND THERE IS TO EVEN POTENTIALLY KNOW HOW MUCH MORE COULD BE COMING. THIS ISN'T STOPPING WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, WHICH IS A VERY LARGE NUMBER.
SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE AS GREAT OF EFFECT AS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE, AND I HAVE A FEAR THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE COMMERCIAL THAT EVERYONE IS BEGGING FOR COME TO A SCREECHING HALT.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO CAUSE BIG PLAYERS TO PULL OFF THE TABLE, WAIT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, DECIDE NOT TO COME TO PRINCETON, THEY'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE GROWTH WHERE IT'S GOING. AND I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED THAT THIS 120 DAY, FOUR MONTH TIMELINE IS A LEGAL LIMIT, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP PUSHING IT FOR MONTHS AT A TIME UNTIL WE'RE THREE OR 4 OR 5 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD UNTIL WE CAN PLAY CATCH UP.
ACTUALLY, I CAN HELP WITH THE LAND PART OF IT.
WE DID CREATE ANOTHER MAP THAT SHOWS THE ZONING IN THE CITY AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE ON THERE.
THAT'S ALSO ONLINE CRAIG CAN SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.
IF YOU ALL WERE AT YOUR WORK AND YOUR BOSS JUST HEAPED A MOUND OF PAPERWORK ON YOUR DESK AND GAVE YOU PROJECTS TO COMPLETE, WOULD IT BE EASIER TO TACKLE THAT MOUND OF MESS IN ONE DAY OR 120? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW.
AND SO OUR TEAM IS TAKING A CRITICAL LOOK AT ALL OF THE STANDARDS ACROSS THE BOARD TO ENSURE THE PRODUCT THAT WE ALLOW FORWARD FROM HERE ON MEETS THE DESIRES OF PRINCETON.
WE'RE AWARE WE NEED A MIDDLE TIER HOUSING STOCK.
I MYSELF WAS LOOKING FOR A HOME FOR MY FAMILY THAT HAD 2500FT², A POOL, ETC.
AND SO THAT WAS THAT WAS A BIT OF A PROBLEM.
WHEN WE LOOK AT BASICALLY OUR NUMBERS FOR THE POPULATION, WE SKEW TOWARDS THE YOUNGER END OF THE SPECTRUM AND YOUNGER FAMILIES, WHICH IS FANTASTIC, BUT THEN THEY MOVE OUT WHEN THEY NEED MORE SPACE. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST AS A TEAM IN A VERY LIMITED TEAM IS TAKE A CRITICAL LOOK AT HOW WE ZONE THINGS APPROPRIATELY, WHAT WE CAN CONTROL ON THE MAP. WHEN YOU SEE THE GREEN PARCELS OF LAND, THERE'S NOT A TON, BUT SOME OF THAT WE CAN DO SOME INTERESTING THINGS ON WHERE WE CAN ALLOW WHATEVER SIZE WE WANT AND HOLD DEVELOPERS TO THAT STANDARD.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ON THE 120 DAYS.
ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
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THERE IS.SO IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING THAT MOTION, I WOULD TAKE THAT MOTION AT THIS TIME.
YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM E1, ORDINANCE NUMBER 20240923, ENACTING AND IMPOSING A MORATORIUM ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY'S CORPORATE LIMITS AND ETJ, AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SAME TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
I HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A SECOND.
OKAY. COLE, CAN YOU OPEN THE VOTING, PLEASE? THIS CARRIED SIX ONE.
WE'LL MOVE US ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.
[F. REGULAR AGENDA]
ITEM F ONE, PL 20243043.PRELIMINARY PLAT, LOT ONE AND TWO.
BLOCK 175 MONTE CARLO ADDITION.
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST FROM COPE EQUITIES, LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING A 16.008 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE DAVID SHERRY SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 166, CITY OF PRINCETON, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.
COMMISSION COLE DAVENPORT, PLANNER.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD 18 AND THE INTENDED USE IS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF AND ENGINEERING AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL AT THIS TIME.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON, PLEASE? THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.
MY NAME IS KIM. KIM WITH TRIANGLE ENGINEERING.
I'M THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENT THE SELLER CORP EQUITIES.
AND I DON'T HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.
I'M HERE TO. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AND A LOT OF COMING DEVELOPMENT.
ON THE OPPOSITE SOUTH CORNER OF WHERE YOU'RE WHERE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS.
THERE'S, THERE'S SOME 4 OR 500 MULTI HOUSING UNITS PLANNED TO BE BUILT.
OF COURSE, THEY'VE JUST BUILT RIGHT BEHIND YOU TO THE NORTHEAST.
BECAUSE IT DOES NOTE THAT YOU'RE NOT IN THE, IN THE WORST OF THE FLOOD ZONES.
BASICALLY, I'M JUST CONCERNED OR CURIOUS AS IF THEY'VE IF THEY'VE BROUGHT ANYTHING UP TO YOU ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR FLOOD MITIGATION JUST BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH, BASICALLY SO MUCH CONCRETE, NOT ENOUGH DRAINAGE PUT IN THAT AREA TO WHERE THERE MAYBE NEEDS TO BE SOME MITIGATION, WHERE IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES THERE MAY NOT BE.
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SO BASICALLY WE I DESIGNED THE DAYCARE TO THE EAST OF IT, EAST OF THIS INTERSECTION.AND WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STORM AS WELL.
AND SO WE DO HAVE A DETENTION POND THAT WE PROPOSE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AT THE CORNER.
SO AND THAT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT BY TXDOT AS WELL AS KIMLEY-HORN THE PARTY.
LEAVE YOUR ENGINEER AT THE CITY SO THEY PRETTY MUCH THEY AGREE TO WHAT? WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH THE DETENTION POND THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AT THE CORNER.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT DOES ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
SO ARE THOSE IMPACTS IMPACT STUDIES AVAILABLE? TO BE TO BE REQUESTED OR TO BE PROVIDED, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO REQUEST VIA A FORMAL REQUEST? YES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PROVIDE FOR YOU.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION? THIS IS A PRETTY TIGHT INTERSECTION.
WHAT ARE YOUR WHERE? YOUR DRIVEWAY IS? THE ONLY ACCESS I SEE IS MONTICELLO DRIVE COMING IN BEHIND.
ARE THERE ANY ACCESS ROADWAY ACCESS OFF OF FM 75 OR MONTE CARLO? YEAH, WE DO HAVE ACCESS OFF OF MONTE CARLO, WHICH IS THE BEING SHARED BY THE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST.
SO WE HAVE A SHARED DRIVEWAY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ON MONTE CARLO.
AND ALSO THERE'S LIKE A WHAT'S THE DISTANCE AND A DRIVEWAY TO KIND OF A LONGHORN DRIVEWAY ON FM 75.
YEAH, THAT'S THE DRIVEWAY RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY TXDOT, BEEN LOOKED AT AND APPROVED BY TXDOT AS WELL.
IS IT DIRECTLY OFF THE ROAD OR ARE THERE ANY TURN LANES BEING PROVIDED? SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A REALLY TIGHT INTERSECTION.
ON FM ROAD, WE DO HAVE A TURN LANE.
TXDOT MADE US DO A TURN, PROVIDE A DECENT LANE.
WHAT ABOUT MONTE CARLO? MONTE CARLO? MONICA, WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE.
ARE Y'ALL IS THERE ANY TYPE OF TRAFFIC IMPACT OR A ROAD NOISE IMPACT? I ACTUALLY HAPPEN TO LIVE RIGHT BY HERE.
PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
AND PEOPLE GO SPEEDING DOWN THAT ROAD AT 80 MILES AN HOUR ALL TIME OF DAY AND NIGHT.
AND IT'S PRETTY LOUD AS IT IS.
AND I THINK ADDING A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY ONE LANE ON LONG NECK GOING, I GUESS THAT'S NORTH AND SOUTH.
AND OF COURSE, LIKE I JUST MENTIONED, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS.
THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC BRINGING INTO THAT AREA AND AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LOUD IS TRAFFIC IMPACTS OR NOISE IMPACTS FROM TRAFFIC.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY IS INTENDING ON DOING? YEAH. YEAH.
THIS IS CRAIG FISHER, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
IT MEETS THE CITY'S REGULATIONS AS FAR AS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
AND AS MR. KAM STATED THERE, THEY DO HAVE A PERMIT FROM TXDOT FOR THAT DRIVEWAY AND DECELERATION LANE ON FM 75.
I GUESS I'M CURIOUS WHY TXDOT WOULD REQUIRE AND WE WOULDN'T, AND WHY THOSE STIPULATIONS WOULDN'T BE PRETTY SIMILAR ON THE SAME CORNER. YEAH.
BUT WE CAN TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
IS THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE 400 TO 500 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT RIGHT THERE ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER? YES. THOSE UNITS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
AND THAT WAS THAT'S PART OF THE CONSIDERATION WHEN LOOKING AT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
HOW ABOUT ALL THE TRAFFIC GOING UP 75 TO THE EAST RIDGE WEST.
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I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE NAMES. EAST RIDGE, SOUTH RIDGE, NORTH RIDGE I THINK.YEAH I THINK EVENTUALLY AND VERY SOON FM 75 IS GOING TO NEED TO BE REBUILT TO MEET THE TRAFFIC DEMAND THAT'S BEING PUT ON IT BY ALL OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH AND THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE WILL WORK WITH TXDOT TO ENSURE THAT THAT ROADWAY IS IMPROVED AND MEETS THE DEMAND.
SO, A TIA OR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS DONE AS PART OF THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT.
THE IMPACT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAYS MEET THE CITY'S CRITERIA.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEEN REVIEWED.
LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY AND THE REQUIREMENTS THEREOF.
ARE THOSE SOMETHING YOU CAN PROVIDE AS WELL? YES, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN REVIEW THOSE IN THE REQUIREMENTS BEHIND THAT.
I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT TXDOT IS REQUIRING A TURN LANE, AND WE AREN'T.
I SECOND THE MOTION TO TABLE IT.
OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS.
COLE, WOULD YOU OPEN THE VOTE, PLEASE? THE MOTION TO TABLE CARRIED SEVEN ZERO.
MOVE US ON TO OUR INFORMATION.
[G. INFORMATION]
NEXT MEETING WILL BE MONDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, 2024.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA? TWO THINGS I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO THE TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST HAD THE DEVELOPMENT TABLED.
ALSO, OF COURSE, WE ARE WAITING FOR SOME INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE CITY, BUT IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING THAT HE MAY WANT TO PUT ON OR PUT THAT TOGETHER SO THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF UNIFORM WAY THAT WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND IT.
IN ADDITION TO, OF COURSE, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT WANTS TO AS WELL.
SECONDLY, I DID WANT TO POTENTIALLY SPEAK EITHER AT THE NEXT MEETING OR UPCOMING MEETING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS BASICALLY ALL THE MAPPING INFORMATION TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC, EITHER BEING PUT INTO THE CITY'S GIS MAP OR MADE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE TO WHERE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE REQUESTED WITHIN 72 HOURS OF THESE MEETINGS.
JUST AS AN EXAMPLE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE.
SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IS IN THE CITY'S GIS DATABASE, BUT IT IS VERY INCOMPLETE.
IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR US, AND IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE TYPICALLY HAVE A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME UP HERE TO LOOK, ASK QUESTIONS AND COMPREHEND WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO IF EVERYTHING IS SIMPLY AVAILABLE TO WHERE WE CAN SEE IT ON THE PRINCETON MAP, OR EVEN JUST MADE AVAILABLE IN A RAW DATA FORMAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IF WE WANT TO TOSS IT INTO A MAP OURSELVES, WE'RE ABLE TO SEE IT WITHIN THAT 72 HOURS.
OKAY. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING? YES. WE CAN MAKE THIS AN AGENDA ITEM.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? I'D ALSO I THINK WE SHOULD REVIEW ANY KIND OF ORDINANCE OR WHATNOT REGARDING HOW TRAFFIC TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES AFFECT THESE PROPERTIES.
AND IF WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT IMPACT FEE STUDIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AS FAR AS GETTING SOME OF THIS STUFF EXPANDED, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF UP TO PAR. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A RED FLAG TO ME THAT TXDOT IS SEEING SOMETHING IN THAT CORNER SPECIFICALLY THAT WE AREN'T.
SO HOWEVER, WE NEED TO REVIEW THOSE TRAFFIC'S AND HOW THEY IMPACT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
WE CAN ALSO MAKE THAT AN ITEM.
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IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I'LL SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.
WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.