>> WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
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I QUOTE THE ORDER. COUNCIL MEETING THE TIME IS 6:57.GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. EUGENE IS HERE. MR. JOHNSON?
>> WE WILL START WITH OUR INVOCATION, TODD BODDY.
>> HELLO, COUNSEL. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
STARTING A NEW YEAR. MY NAME IS TODD BODDY.
I'M THE PASTOR OF FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH HERE IN PRINCETON, ESTABLISHED IN 1905.
IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO STAND BEFORE YOU HERE TODAY AND TO OFFER A PRAYER ON ALL OUR BEHALF. LET US PRAY.
DEAR LORD AS WE GATHER FOR A NEW YEAR WITH NEW ENERGY, NEW TASKS, NEW AGENDAS, NEW CHALLENGES, AND NEW REWARDS AHEAD, WE ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE AND GUIDANCE AMONG US.
LORD, WE ARE FALLEN CREATURES, BUT WE ARE ALSO PEOPLE MADE ANEW BY YOU.
IN YOUR IMAGE, AND A PEOPLE AND A TOWN AND A COMMUNITY WHO REACHES OUT ITS HANDS TO HELP THOSE WHO STUMBLE AND ASPIRE TO DO YOUR WILL.
YOUR OWN PROMISES, THE LORD DELIGHTS IN THE STEPS OF THE PERSON HE HAS MADE FIRM.
BUT IF THEY STUMBLE, THEY SHALL NOT FALL FOR THE LORD UPHOLDS THEM WITH HIS RIGHT HAND.
LORD, GIVE US YOUR DIVINE HELP AS WE SEEK OUT THE BEST IN EACH OTHER, LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR AS OURSELF, AND HOLDING A SPIRIT OF HUMILITY THAT COMES WITH THE AUTHORITY YOU'D BESTOW UPON OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS.
AS THEY COLLABORATE TOGETHER, MAY THEIR THOUGHTS BE HIGHER THAN THEIRS ALONE.
MAY THEIR WISDOM BE GREATER THAN THEIRS ALONE, AND MAY THEY BE AS IRON THAT SHARPENS IRON.
FINALLY, FATHER, GIVE THEM EARS TO HEAR AND EYES TO SEE AS THEY MUST SIFT THROUGH SO MUCH INFORMATION AND SERVE A TRULY COSMOPOLITAN BODY OF CITIZENS IN TIMES OF CHANGE.
MAY THEIR SERVICE BE TO YOUR HONOR AND GLORY, FOR IN THE END, THEY ANSWER TO YOU.
IN THE NAME OF MY LORD AND SAVIOR, JESUS, I PRAY. AMEN. THANK YOU.
>> LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.
[F. PUBLIC APPEARANCE]
START THIS OFF WITH PUBLIC APPEARANCE.FIRST PERSON WILL BE TERESA MCGUINNESS.
>> HELLO. I'M TERESA MCGUINNESS.
I LIVE IN ARCADIA FARMS. I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT A FEW THINGS REAL FAST.
ONE IS WELCOME. NICE TO SEE YOUR FIRST MEETING.
THE FIRST THING IS THE AGENDA.
NOW, I'VE REQUESTED TWICE TO BE PUT ON AN AGENDA, AND I REQUESTED IT FROM EVERYBODY.
SOMEBODY'S GOT TO COME UP WITH IT.
WE ARE STILL DOING THE HOME RULE CHARTER, AND WE HAD MENTIONED TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
IF THAT COULD BE PUT ON AGENDA AND REALLY MADE SERIOUS, WE ARE MOVING AHEAD WITH IT.
I WANTED Y'ALL TO BE AWARE THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE ON IT THIS COMING NEXT WEEK.
BUT IT'S NOTHING THAT'S INDIVIDUAL FOR ANYBODY.
WE NEED MORE TALK. WE NEED TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED ON THE AGENDA THAT NO ONE HAS MENTIONED SINCE I HAD TALKED ABOUT IT WAS, THAT THE MONEY THAT WENT TO PARKS AND RECREATIONS TO EITHER TRY TO GET IT SWITCHED OVER TO PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ADD PARK RANGERS, JUST TO LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
IF SOMEBODY COULD BRING THAT UP AND TRY TO DISCUSS IT,
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I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD OPTION.THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE LOTS 8, 9 ALL THE HOMES THAT ARE PROVEN TODAY.
THOSE ARE ALL HIGH DENSITY LOTS.
THE MAJORITY OF THOSE LOTS ARE LESS THAN 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE. I MEAN, THERE'S A HANDFUL THAT AREN'T.
THEY'RE ALL ABOUT 50 FEET APART.
NOW, I GAVE YOU ALL A PICTURE OF A HIGH DENSITY THAT'S IN MCKINNEY RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THERE IS.
I SAW IT ON OUR THING WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE LOTS 60 FEET WIDE.
YEAH, IT LOOK NICE IN THE FRONT, BUT THEN YOU GO ALONG THE SIDE AND THOSE BACKYARDS.
THERE'S LITERALLY ONE HOUSE WHERE THEY JUST CONNECTED THE THING.
THAT'S WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO START LOOKING LIKE.
THERE'S A LOT OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING COMING IN.
NOW, BECAUSE OF THAT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT'S OVER 1,000 HOUSES RIGHT THERE.
THOSE THOUSAND HOUSES IF YOU DO A LOW ON THE LOW END RIGHT NOW, YOU NEED TWO POLICE OFFICERS PER 1,000.
WE'RE ALREADY DOWN POLICE OFFICERS.
WELL, NOW YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO HIRE TWO MORE BEFORE WE EVEN GET CAUGHT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE 1,000 HOMES COMING IN.
THEN ANOTHER THING IS, I KNOW THAT THAT'S ON THERE FOR CONSENT TODAY OR THE FINAL PLATS.
KIMLEY-HORN, I HEARD SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE DOING A PRESENTATION WITH YOU ALL HOW THEY'RE NOT IN THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT EVERY ONE OF THESE IS KIMLEY-HORN.
THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IN MOST PEOPLE YOU COULD JUST TELL.
IF YOU'RE ON BOTH SIDES OF A PROJECT, THERE'S A CONFLICT.
THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP, AND THAT CAN REALLY SERIOUSLY GET LOOKED AT.
>> ANDREW RAMIRA, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT? I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE TOWN HALL PORTION OF IT.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT IN TERMS OF THE TOWN HALL.
IT WON'T BE ADDED TO AN AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS.
WE'LL BE ADDING IT AS AN EVENT.
WHEN THE TOWN HALLS ARE READY TO GO, WE'LL HAVE THOSE AND WE'LL ANNOUNCE THOSE DATES.
WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE BEHIND THE SCENE, AND I CAN REACH OUT TO YOU DIRECTLY OR YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY, AND I CAN GIVE MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE.
>> ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT PERSON, DORINA POWELL?
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE PROSPECT OF WALMART WANTING TO USE DRONES.
THEY ARE NOT BENEFICIAL TO PRINCETON AND CAN BE DANGEROUS.
INJURY TO OTHERS REMAINS THE GREATEST DANGER OF DRONES COLLISION.
VIOLATION OF PUBLIC PRIVACY, DRONES CAN INFRINGE ON PERSONAL PROPERTY.
DRONES CAN CRASH CAUSING DAMAGE TO BUILDINGS AND PROPERTY.
IF DRONES ARE IN USE, SOMEONE MAY TAKE ADVANTAGE AND USE THEM FOR ILLEGAL PURPOSES.
DRONES CAN BE DANGEROUS TO WILDLIFE BY COLLIDING WITH BIRDS, INTERFERING WITH WILDLIFE NATURAL BEHAVIORS, COMMUNICATION, AND REPRODUCTION.
DRONES CAN BE EQUIPPED WITH CERTAIN SOFTWARE THAT MAKES THEM AN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, AI.
JOKEFULLY, THERE'S ANOTHER AI OUT THERE, ARTIFICIAL INGREDIENTS.
THEY ARE DANGEROUS TO US, TOO.
BUT I AM RESPECTFULLY ASKING YOU NOT TO ALLOW DRONES. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR.
THIS IS MY FOURTH MONTH HERE IN PRINCETON, I LIVE IN WHITE WING TRAILS.
ONE OF THE BIG SHOCKER ITEMS THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED THESE LAST FOUR MONTHS ARE THE HIGH WATER RATES.
JUST AS A THOUGHT, I WOULD SINCERELY REQUEST FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER WHAT I NOTICED, AND A FEW OTHERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I'M HEARING.
IS THE FACT THAT THE WATER THAT IS USED FOR OUTSIDE PURPOSES FOR A SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THE CALCULATION THAT WATER IS USED TO CALCULATE THE AMOUNT.
WE PAY FOR SEWER FOR THAT WATER, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE.
THERE ARE A FEW OTHER CITIES IN THE DFW AREA.
WHAT THEY DO DURING THE WINTER MONTHS IS THEY SEE THE AVERAGE WATER USE, AND THAT BECOMES THE ACTUAL WATER TO CHARGE SEWER, AND THAT GETS APPLIED FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
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SOMETHING SIMILAR ALONG THOSE LINES, IF THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED HERE WOULD BE A GREAT HELP IN REDUCING THE WATER RATES.I WOULD SINCERELY REQUEST YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THAT.
THE SECOND THING IS, WOULD BE NICE IF THE WAY THE WATER BILL IS CALCULATED TO LAY IT OUT IN THE PRINCETON WEBSITE, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED HAVE NO CLUE IN TERMS OF HOW THE WATER BILL IS CALCULATED.
I PERSONALLY CALLED THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO WALK ME THROUGH.
IT WOULD BE NICE SO RESIDENTS CAN KNOW THAT THE WATER THAT IS BEING USED FOR WATERING OUR LAWNS.
IN ESSENCE, WE ARE PAYING FOR SEWER FOR THAT WATER USE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, AND IT'LL BE A GREAT HELP IF YOU GUYS CAN RECONSIDER REDOING THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM OF HOW WE PAY FOR WATER AND SEWER. THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CLINT LAWRENCE.
>> CLINTON LAWRENCE, 1304 EAST COLLEGE.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO OFFER MY OPINION AS TO WHO SHOULD BE MAYOR PRO-TEM MOVING FORWARD IN THIS NEW ELECTED COUNCIL.
ALTHOUGH MR. JOHNSON AND I HAVE GOT OFF TO A ROCKY START, HE AND I HAVE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED A MUTUAL AND UNDERSTANDING RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS STRENGTHENED OVER TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON TO BE VOTED INTO THIS POSITION.
I BELIEVE MR. JOHNSON HAS THE EXPERIENCE NECESSARY FOR THIS POSITION FROM HIS TIME AS CHAIR ON THE EDC.
MR. JOHNSON KNOWS THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES.
HE KNOWS HOW THE BUDGET PROCESS WORKS.
I HAVE ACTUALLY SPENT TIME WITH HIM TALKING ABOUT ISSUES, AND I HAVE BEEN IMPRESSED AT HIS KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE OPEN MEETING ACT.
ALSO, I FEEL MR. JOHNSON WOULD PUT THE PUBLIC INTEREST BEFORE ANY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS COUNCIL HAS TO START FOCUSING ON PUBLIC INTEREST AND NOT THE PERSONAL AGENDA OR VISION OF ANY MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, OR DEVELOPER.
UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THOSE WHO WERE RECENTLY UNSEATED, LOST SIGHT AS TO THE REASON WHY THEY WERE HERE TO BEGIN WITH.
IN 1ST KINGS 19: 9, GOD ASKED ELIJAH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? GOD'S QUESTION WAS NOT ABOUT ELIJAH'S PHYSICAL LOCATION.
IT WAS A CHALLENGE FOR WHAT HE SHOULD BE DOING INSTEAD. THANK YOU.
>> BEFORE YOU GO, YOU WEREN'T HERE EARLIER.
I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION ON OUR ITEM 813.
YOU BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE WERE PAYING EXTRA FOR THE AGREEMENT FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU SAVED OUR TAXPAYERS $9,348 BY BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.
BUT I DO HAVE TO ASK, I'M IN THE THIRD ROW AND I CAN HARDLY HEAR YOU. IF YOU COULD SPEAK UP.
>> THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT.
WATER. FOR THE LAST WEEK, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL OF YOU, BUT I KNOW ABOUT ME, AND PROBABLY EVERYBODY SITTING BEHIND ME.
WE HAD TO DRIP OUR WATER ALMOST EVERY DAY FOR A WEEK.
IF YOU DIDN'T, THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A BURSTED PIPE.
WITH OUR WATER RATES, IT WOULD ACTUALLY ALMOST BE CHEAPER TO HAVE A PIPE BURST THAN TO PAY THE WATER BILL.
TO FIX A PIPE THAT BURST CAN RANGE ANYWHERE FROM $200 TO $1,000.
I REALLY FEEL DURING THESE WINTER TIMES RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ALL HAVE TO DRIP OUR WATER, SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THE WATER NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO THOUGHT THERE.
HOLIDAY. VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE CITY.
YOU ALL PLAN AN EVENT, AND THEN YOU ALL CANCEL IT.
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DON'T RESCHEDULE IT.I KNOW FOR A FACT, BECAUSE I HAD AN EVENT AT ARCADIA FARMS. I HAD TO CANCEL DUE TO WEATHER.
I HAD TO PREPAY FOR A LOT OF STUFF.
IT WAS VERY EASY. PICK UP THE PHONE, RESCHEDULED IT.
JUST HAD A WONDERFUL EVENT LAST WEEKEND WITH EVERYBODY RESCHEDULED.
THERE'S NO REASON WHY THAT EVENT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN RESCHEDULED TO JANUARY TO FEBRUARY TILL MARCH.
NOW THE CITY'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TILL JULY? YOU ALREADY HAVE A BUDGET FOR JULY.
WHERE'S THAT MONEY FROM THIS EVENT GOING? FIRE DEPARTMENT, VERY DISAPPOINTED.
WHERE WAS SANTA THIS YEAR COMING AROUND THROUGH THE COMMUNITIES.
YOU'VE DONE IT FOR THREE OTHER YEARS.
VERY DISAPPOINTED. I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
BIDDING, WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE BID, THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER CONSISTENCY BECAUSE THE BIDDING PROCESS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY.
IT'S NOT THE SAME PROCESS FOR EVERY PROJECT.
I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL AGREE WITH YOU THAT I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THE CITY AT THAT AS WELL, MISSING CHRISTMAS.
I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 2013, AND I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN IMPROVING UNTIL LAST YEAR.
I KNOW THAT WE HAD MONEY ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE PAST, BUT I DON'T SEE A REASON FOR THAT TO BE.
ME AND MS. MASHBURN HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE CONVERSATIONS ALREADY.
NEXT YEAR, THAT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
JOANNA RODRIGUEZ, LOUISA CABIRA. AMY MOORE.
>> IS IT ON NOW? THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY EMPLOYER WHO OWNS TWO PROPERTIES.
THEY'RE LOW INCOME HOUSING PROPERTIES HERE IN PRINCETON, WHICH WE'VE HAD SINCE 1989.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M AMY MOORE, AND I AM A PART TIME CONTROLLER BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH A SMALL ORGANIZATION AND PROVIDE THESE LOW INCOME HOUSING UNITS.
ONE OF THEM IS CALLED COLONIAL TERRACE.
IT'S AT 165 SOUTH FOREST STREET, AND THE OTHER ONE IS YORKSHIRE PLACE, WHICH IS LOW INCOME ELDERLY HOUSING.
ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AT BOTH PROPERTIES ARE DELIGHTFUL, AND ESPECIALLY AT YORKSHIRE.
WE HAVE FOUND OUT IN NOVEMBER THAT OUR WATER RATES ARE GOING UP, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED NEXT TO $38 AND SOMETHING PER UNIT.
AND WE HAVE 40 UNITS AT BOTH LOCATIONS.
WE DID OUR BUDGETS, WHICH WERE APPROVED BY THE GOVERNMENT BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AND WE CANNOT INCREASE OUR RENT UNTIL JANUARY OF 2026, SO I AM ASKING FOR A 12-MONTH REPRIEVE SO THAT WE CAN PUT THAT INTO OUR BUDGET SO THE GOVERNMENT WILL REIMBURSE US FOR THAT EXTRA $38 PER UNIT PER MONTH, WHICH ADDS UP TO ABOUT $1,500 FOR US.
SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OUR WATER BILL AT ONE OF THE LOCATIONS IS A LITTLE BIT UNDER 1,500, A LITTLE BIT OVER 1,500, AND THE OTHER ONE IS AROUND 1,800 ON AVERAGE.
SO THAT ALMOST DOUBLES OUR WATER BILL.
THE PROPERTIES ARE MANAGED UNDER WHAT'S CALLED ALURA, WHICH IS A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE GOVERNMENT THAT SAYS THAT WE CANNOT USE THE PROPERTIES FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN LOW INCOME HOUSING UNTIL 2034.
SO IF WE SOLD THOSE PROPERTIES, WHICH THEY WOULDN'T BE WORTH VERY MUCH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE LOW INCOME HOUSING THERE, WE WOULDN'T GET VERY MUCH MONEY FOR THEM IF WE TRIED TO SELL THEM BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MAY SAY, WELL, THERE'S YOUR ANSWER.
JUST SELL THEM. WELL, NO ONE'S GOING TO WANT TO BUY THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO OPERATE UNDER THAT UNTIL 2034.
SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR A 12-MONTH REPRIEVE.
OUR RENTS OVER AT COLONIAL TERRACE ARE 625 FOR A ONE BEDROOM AND 720 FOR A TWO BEDROOM.
AND OVER AT YORKSHIRE ARE 600 FOR A ONE BEDROOM AND 695 FOR A TWO BEDROOM.
THOSE ARE NOT LUXURY APARTMENTS.
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WE HAVE SAFE, CLEAN HOUSING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.AND WE'VE COMMITTED DOING THAT SINCE 1989.
I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO GET AN ANSWER NOW, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS LATER OR SEND YOU ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU. THAT WILL END OUR PUBLIC APPEARANCE.
>> I DON'T HAVE YOU, BUT COME ON.
>> HELLO. KEN SELIGMAN, 512 BUCKEYE AVENUE.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS.
A LOT OF IT INVOLVES PUBLIC SAFETY.
I WANT TO THANK CHIEF WATERS AND ALL OF HIS DEPARTMENT, I KNOW THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA LATER, FOR NOT JUST MEETING, BUT EXCEEDING STATE STANDARDS.
THANK YOU. AND I ALSO SAW THE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER ABOUT SMART POLICING, SUPER IMPRESSIVE. THANK YOU.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB DOING MORE WITH LESS.
I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO BE DOING SOME OF THAT, TOO, BECAUSE EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE DOING THAT.
FIRST THING IS I BELIEVE IT'S CONSENT AGENDA.
BEN, YOU MENTIONED IT, THE CANARY CONTRACT FOR REPLACING THE WATER AND SEWER LINES.
THESE ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I THINK SO. ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, I'VE BEEN SEEING CREWS OUT THERE FOR PROBABLY AT LEAST A MONTH LOCATING THOSE LINES.
NOW, THAT'S NOT SURVEYING THE LINES.
THEY'VE BEEN ACTUALLY GOING AROUND DIGGING HOLES, PHYSICALLY LOCATING.
THEY WANT TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE.
THEY WANT TO SEE THEM WITH THE CAMERA AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A MONTH.
SOME OF THEM ARE 6, 08, 9 FEET IN THE GROUND.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN THAT BUDGET OR NOT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE WORKING FOR WELL OVER A MONTH.
MANY OF THEM FOR OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, $2 MILLION, A LOT OF PROJECTS WELL INTO THE MULTI MILLIONS.
IF I BROUGHT MY BOSS AN AFE FOR $3.2 MILLION AND HE SAID, WELL, WHY DO YOU ONLY HAVE ONE BID? AND I SAID, WELL, YOU GUYS WERE IN A HURRY FOR IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'D STILL HAVE THAT JOB, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS. THAT'S OUR MONEY YOU'RE SPENDING.
THAT'S OUR MONEY. THAT'S YOUR MONEY.
H8, 9, AND 10, I'M STILL DISSATISFIED WITH THIS PUBLIC BUILDING MORATORIUM.
NOW, I KNOW ONE OF THOSE, I HEARD TERRENCE ASKED IN THE WORK SESSION THAT WHEN WAS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SIGNED, AND IT WAS SOME TIME AGO.
ONE OF THEM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS JUST SIGNED A MONTH OR TWO BEFORE THE MORATORIUM.
AND TO ME, IF YOU GUYS REALLY WANTED TO KEEP US SAFE, I WONDER HOW MANY DEVELOPERS HERE, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU DIAL 911, NO ONE SHOWS UP.
THEY ANSWER CRITICAL CALLS, BUT WHAT IF THEY HAVE TOO MANY CRITICAL CALLS.
THEY'RE NOT ANSWERING ACCIDENT CALLS A LOT OF TIMES EITHER BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO OVERLOADED.
IT'S TRUE. THEY CAN'T ANSWER ALL THE CALLS. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LIST FOR EVERYONE THAT IS GETTING A BUILDING MORATORIUM EXEMPTION, WHEN IT WAS APPLIED FOR, WHEN IT WAS APPROVED.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE ACTUAL BUILDING PLATS. THANK YOU.
>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR A PUBLIC APPEARANCE? THAT WILL MOVE US DOWN TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
[G. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
MS. CAROLYN DAVID-GRAVES.>> ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST FOR JANUARY 13TH.
STORY TIME RETURNS TO THE LIBRARY ON JANUARY 22ND AT 10:30 AM.
THE COMMUNITY IS INVITED TO SAY THANK YOU AND BEST WISHES TO CHIEF TOM HARVEY.
PLEASE MAKE PLANS TO ATTEND CHIEF HARVEY'S RETIREMENT ON JANUARY 23RD, 2025, FROM 1:00-3:00 PM AT THE MUNICIPAL CENTER.
THAT'S CHIEF HARVEY'S RETIREMENT PARTY, JANUARY 23RD, 2025, FROM 1:00-3:00 PM,
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AT THE MUNICIPAL CENTER.AS YOU TAKE DOWN YOUR HOLIDAY DECORATIONS, CONSIDER RECYCLING YOUR LIVE CHRISTMAS TREE AT JM CALDWELL SR. COMMUNITY PARK.
MAKE SURE TO REMOVE ALL DECORATIONS, TINSEL, AND STANDS BEFORE RECYCLING.
THIS CONCLUDES THE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST FOR TODAY, JANUARY 13TH.
>> ANYONE LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING AT THIS TIME?
>> YES, YOUR HONOR. I HAD SOMETHING I WANTED TO ADD. [NOISE] EXCUSE ME.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO ALL OF OUR CITY STAFF FOR THE WINTER WEATHER PREPARATION EFFORTS THAT WE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS.
OF COURSE, IT WAS NOTHING CLOSE TO SNOWMAGEDDON FROM A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT JUST THE DAILY UPDATES, TOMMY AND HIS TEAM, THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, JUST THEIR EFFORTS OUT THERE, MAKING SURE THAT THE STREETS WERE SAFE FOR US, AARON, EVERYONE FOR THE COMMUNICATION.
JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS. WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOT OUT TO CHIEF WATERS AS WELL BECAUSE HE'S BEEN HERE ALMOST EVERY DAY DURING THE ICE STORM THAT WE HAD, MAKING SURE THAT OUR ROAD IS GOOD, MAKING SURE THAT OUR FACILITY WAS WORKING, MAKING SURE THAT HE WAS WORKING AT STATION 1.
ME AND HIM WAS IN CONTACT THE WHOLE TIME.
WE WAS UP HERE NEW YEAR'S EVE, EVEN CHRISTMAS EVE.
HE'S BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED HERE.
I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO CHIEF WATERS.
[APPLAUSE] IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADD? THIS WILL MOVE US TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA,
[H. CONSENT AGENDA]
AND MR. LAND WILL ACTUALLY TAKE OVER FROM FROM HERE.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL CONSENT ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED IN ONE MOTION.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATIONS ARE ITEM H1 THROUGH H17.
>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, IF NOBODY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM H10 FROM THE CONSIDERED AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION, AND I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OTHER ITEMS.
>> LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL. SORRY. I GOT TO GET MY LIST. MR. JOHNSON.
>> THAT'LL MOVE US TO OUR CEREMONIAL ITEMS.
[I. CEREMONIAL ITEMS]
MR. MANN WILL TAKE OVER FROM HERE.ACKNOWLEDGE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCREDITATION PROGRAM OF BEST PRACTICES AUDIT, EARNING ACCREDITATION AND RECOGNITION AS A DEPARTMENT FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.
>> MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, JAMES WATERS, CHIEF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WHAT EXCITING TIME THAT WE HAVE AHEAD OF US.
WHAT A WONDERFUL TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, TONIGHT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT WHY IT'S A JOYOUS TIME.
I JUST WANT TO BRING SOME ATTENTION.
I DON'T KNOW, ROUGHLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE HAD ALREADY BEEN A PART OF THE BEST PRACTICE PROGRAM, AND SO EVERY FOUR YEARS, WE GOT TO GO THROUGH AN AUDIT.
THE PERSON THAT I GREW UP WITH AS A CHIEF WHENEVER I WAS CHIEF THE FIRST TIME AND GONE THROUGH, IT WAS CHIEF MIKE SULLIVAN.
HE HAD BECOME AN INSPECTOR FOR THE TPCA AND WAS DOING ALL THOSE THINGS.
HE WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO DO OUR ON SITE INSPECTION OR IF WE HAD PASSED THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME AND PRESENT US THIS AWARD.
UNFORTUNATELY, DURING THE WEEK OF THE INSPECTION, HE UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY.
WITH THAT, WE STILL PROCEEDED WITH THE INSPECTION.
WE ENDED UP PASSING THE INSPECTION, BUT I COULDN'T THINK OF A BETTER PERSON TO COME AND JUST HELP, I GUESS, PRESENT THE AWARD THAN CHIEF PHILLIPS FROM FARMERSVILLE PD, AS MIKE SULLIVAN WAS THE CHIEF FOR FARMERSVILLE PD FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS.
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WHILE SHE COMES UP HERE AND SPEAKS A LITTLE BIT, ALSO, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MS TIFFANY WEST.I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IF IT WASN'T FOR HER, WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOT THROUGH IT.
SHE IS A BIG VOLATILE POINT OF THE PD.
SHE'S LIKE A MOM TO US ALL, LOVINGLY, BUT WITHOUT HER, WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'D LIKE TO ABOUT CHIEF PHILLIPS COME UP, AND MS. TIFFANY, CAN YOU COME UP TOO.
>> I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK, BUT AS HE SAID, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITIZENS OF PRINCETON, CHIEF PHILLIPS, FARMERSVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO BE HERE AND REPRESENT TPCA'S ACCREDITATION COMMITTEE.
THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IS MADE UP OF OVER 1,100 PROFESSIONAL POLICE CHIEFS THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHO ARE DEDICATED TO IMPROVING AND THE DELIVERY OF QUALITY POLICE SERVICES.
I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH A CERTIFICATE OF RE-ACCREDITATION FOR CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN THEIR COMPLIANCE WITH TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT'S BEST BUSINESS PRACTICES FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION DEVELOPED AN ACCREDITATION PROGRAM FOR TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT.
MANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT ACCREDITATION PROGRAMS FOR SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES, AND HOSPITALS.
THEY ARE ALL PROGRAMS OF PROFESSIONAL EXCELLENCE, AND ALL REQUIRE PROOF OF COMPLIANCE WITH A SET OF PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.
IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM WHERE AGENCIES MUST PROVE THAT THEY MEET OR EXCEED 173 DIFFICULT STANDARDS.
THE STANDARDS ARE BASED ON TEXAS LAW, TEXAS COURT DECISIONS, AND CONTEMPORARY BEST PRACTICES AS IDENTIFIED BY THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEF ASSOCIATION.
THESE STANDARDS ADDRESS THE FULL RANGE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS, SUCH AS USE OF FORCE, PROTECTION OF CITIZEN RIGHTS, VEHICLE PURSUITS, PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT, AND PATROL INVESTIGATION OPERATIONS JUST TO NAME A FEW.
THIS PROGRAM HAS BECOME THE NEW GOLD STANDARD FOR PROFESSIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TEXAS, AND AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS.
APPROXIMATELY FOUR YEARS AGO, THE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT FIRST ATTAINED THEIR ACCREDITED STATUS WITH THE TPCA, AND IT WAS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO.
THE AGENCY HAD TO CONDUCT A COMPLETE AUDIT OF ALL POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND OPERATIONS IN ORDER TO MEET THESE STANDARDS.
SINCE THAT TIME, THE AGENCY HAS SUBMITTED ANNUAL REPORTS THAT WERE REVIEWED TO ENSURE THEY CONTINUE TO MEET THE STANDARDS AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE CITIZENS OF PRINCETON WITH EFFECTIVE POLICE SERVICE.
IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, TRAINED ASSESSORS, POLICE CHIEFS, AND COMMAND OFFICERS FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE SPENT TWO DAYS CONDUCTING ANOTHER ASSESSMENT OF PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> THESE ASSESSORS INTERVIEWED STAFF, INSPECTED FACILITIES, AND OPERATIONS, MET WITH FIELD OFFICERS, AND ENSURED COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STANDARDS.
THEIR REPORT WAS THEN SENT TO THE ACCREDITATION COMMITTEE, COMPRISED OF NINE ACTIVE POLICE CHIEFS FROM AROUND THE STATE WHO REVIEWED THE REPORT AND VOTED TO AWARD ACCREDITED STATUS, THAT THAT VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS.
DURING THIS PROCESS, THE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ONCE AGAIN PROVEN THAT IT MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE BEST PRACTICES FOR PROFESSIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TEXAS.
OF OVER THE 2,800 LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN TEXAS, ONLY 214 AGENCIES HAVE ACHIEVED ACCREDITED STATUS, AND FEWER THAN THAT HAVE BEEN RE-ACCREDITED.
THIS EVENING, WE OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE.
THE ACCREDITATION PROGRAM ASSURES BOTH CITY MANAGEMENT AND THE CITIZENS OF PRINCETON THAT THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OPERATING IN A MANNER THAT REFLECTS THE CURRENT BEST PRACTICES OF TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT.
IT MEANS YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONTINUALLY STRIVING FOR PROFESSIONAL EXCELLENCE.
IT MEANS YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE VERY BEST IN THE STATE.
THIS CERTIFICATE WE PRESENT THIS EVENING IS SYMBOLIC.
WHILE IT IS CLEARLY THE MARK OF PROFESSIONAL EXCELLENCE, THE REAL VALUE OF THE PROGRAM IS A PROCESS THEY MUST COMPLETE TO RECEIVE THE CERTIFICATE.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE END OF THIS PROCESS.
THE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO SUBMIT ANNUAL REPORTS TO ENSURE CONTINUED COMPLIANCE AND IN FOUR YEARS, WE WILL BE BACK.
FOR ANOTHER ON-SITE INSPECTION TO ENSURE THE AGENCY IS CONTINUING TO COMPLY WITH ALL STANDARDS, THE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A LEADER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TEXAS.
YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENT.
WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO CONDONE MY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON AN EXCELLENT JOB.
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[APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND] [APPLAUSE]. THANK YOU, CONGRATULATIONS.>> THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MAYOR, YOU HAVE ITEM J AND ITEM K. IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE FIRST, WE CAN COME BACK TO HIM LATER.
>> YOU RIGHT. YES. SORRY. ITEM J, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE.
WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE IT IN OUR PRE COUNCIL MEETING.
LET'S GO AHEAD TO K TO ACTIONS PERTAINING TO EXECUTIVE. ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS.
[K. ACTION PERTAINING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
>> YOUR HONOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT OR SIMILAR TYPE OF AGREEMENT AND ALL DOCUMENTS RELATED THERE TOO FOR THAT CERTAIN 33 ACRE PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 622, EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 623, WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 1216 AND SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 825, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, TO BE USED BY THE CITY FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES INTO LOTS [LAUGHTER] NECESSARY AND AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR THE ACQUISITION THEREOF.
>> LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON?
NOW WE CAN MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARING.
[L. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'RE ON ITEM L1, ORDINANCE 2025-0113.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025-0113 OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON FROM WALMART REAL ESTATE BUSINESS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY HUB AT 7:01 WEST PRINCETON DRIVE, BEING LOT 1, BLOCK A, PRINCETON, WALMART EDITION, AND THE CITY OF PRINCETON, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> GOOD EVENING. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS CRAIG FISHER, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS REQUEST IS FOR COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY HUB, LOCATED AT THE WALMART RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT'S LOCATION HERE.
THIS REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S RECENTLY ADOPTED DRONE DELIVERY HUB GUIDELINES.
WHEN THE ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN DECEMBER, THEY HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED A WAIVER FROM THE 300 FOOT SEPARATION FROM A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
P&Z REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT RELOCATE A FEW FEET TO COMPLY WITH THAT. THEY HAVE DONE SO.
THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE AN UPDATED SITE PLAN UNTIL EARLIER TODAY.
I HAVE THAT HERE SHOWING THE 300 FOOT COMPLIANCE, IF YOU'D LIKE, I COULD DISTRIBUTE THAT.
WITH THAT CHANGE MADE, THE REQUEST FULLY COMPLIES WITH THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE SUP REQUEST WITH A VOTE OF 4-1.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I WATCHED THE P&Z MEETING AND COMMISSIONER HITCH HE GAVE A DEMONSTRATION ON THE SOUND WAVES AND HOW THAT WORKED.
BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONER HITCH BROUGHT UP WAS THE NOISE ORDINANCE, AND THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WAS FOUR PER DRONE.
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THERE WAS A I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS EVER A SATISFACTORY ANSWER IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY WERE TO STACK THOSE, LIKE, AS IT STATES RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T MANDATE THAT THEY COULDN'T ADD IN MULTIPLE OR LARGER SIZES THAT WOULD EXCEED THAT, BUT THERE'S NOT AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT WOULD HELP REGULATE THAT.>> THE CITY DOES HAVE AN ADOPTED NOISE ORDINANCE, AND IF THEY'RE FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION, WE CAN ENACT THAT AND ISSUE CITATIONS IF THEY'RE FOUND TO BE NON COMPLIANT WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
ONCE THE DRONES ARE IN THE AIR THEY ARE NO LONGER SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S REGULATION OR CONTROL, OR FAA JURISDICTION AT THAT POINT, BUT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE GROUND, IF THERE'S A VIOLATION, AND MY CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS WILL BE HAPPY TO RESPOND AND INVESTIGATE, AND IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE CAN ADDRESS IT.
>> WHAT CRITERIA DO YOU USE TO DETERMINE THAT THEY ARE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR NOISE ORDINANCES?
>> WE'D MEASURE THE SOUND DECIBELS AT THE PROPERTY LINE AND TAKE MEASUREMENT FROM THERE AND SEE WHAT IT'S AT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? ONCE THEY'RE IN THE AIR, IF THEY ARE TOO LOUD, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T ISSUE ANY CITATIONS.
I'M GUESSING ONCE THEY'RE IN THE AIR, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW LOUD THEY ARE UNLESS THEY'RE ON THE GROUND.
>> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, MR. LOWRY, IF YOU CAN CONFIRM.
>> YES, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS APPLICABLE TO A CERTAIN ELEVATION ABOVE THE GROUND.
ONCE IT'S ABOVE THAT, IT'S SUBJECT TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
ALSO, COUNCIL MEMBER, JOHNSON, TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, SO THEIR APPLICATION, THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC LOCATION ON THE SITE PLAN.
IF YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING THAT SUP, THE APPLICANT CANNOT EXPAND UPON THAT WITHOUT COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS.
SO THEY'RE BOUND BY THE SIZE OF THAT.
THEY CAN'T ADD ANY SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THAT.
I THINK THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION EARLIER.
>> YES. THAT WAS PERFECT. THANK YOU.
>> DO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO QUESTION ON ZIP TO ZIP LINE.
I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
WHAT IS THAT HEIGHT THAT IS REQUIRED BEFORE IT GETS INTO TO THE FAA GUIDELINES.
>> ABSOLUTE, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. QUICK INTRODUCTION. MY NAME IS CONNOR WILKINSON.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFIC HEIGHT IS, AS FAR AS LIKE FAA REGULATIONS.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, ANYTHING THAT IS IN THE AIR IS REGULATED BY THE FAA.
I THINK A KEY ELEMENT HERE IS ONCE THE AIRCRAFT TAKES OFF, IT MOVES FROM THE DOCK AND FLIES DIRECTLY TO 300 FEET.
THEN DURING TRANSIT AND DELIVERY, IT NEVER GOES BELOW 300 FEET.
THE AIRCRAFT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE NOISE OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OVER 300 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND, ABOUT 30 STOREYS, AND IT'S JUST LOWERING A QUIET DELIVERY DROID ON A TETHER.
WE'RE FINDING DECIBEL LEVELS ARE BELOW 65 DECIBELS, WHICH IS QUIETER THAN LIKE UP PASSING DELIVERY TRUCK, FOR EXAMPLE.
>> ACTUALLY, YOU ANSWERED MY SECOND QUESTION.
I SEE WHAT'S THE HEIGHT THAT YOU GUYS DROPPED THE PACKAGES FROM, BUT THAT ANSWERS THAT. THANK YOU.
>> ZIPLINE IS ONE OF TWO COMPANIES THAT THE FAA ISSUED BASICALLY A WAIVER TO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW TRADITIONAL FAA GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS.
HOW DOES THAT IMPACT WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING HERE TO PRINCETON IN REGARDS TO WHAT FAA STANDARDS ARE TO WHAT YOU WILL BE DOING HERE SINCE YOUR COMPANY HAS THAT WAIVER?
>> I THINK THAT THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT REGULATIONS OR WAIVERS THAT EXIST.
I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ONE SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU'RE IN REGARDS TO.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE WERE ONE OF TWO DRONE DELIVERY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD PART 135 REGULATIONS, SO WE WERE OPERATING AS AN AIRLINE RATHER THAN LIKE A INDIVIDUAL DRONE DELIVERY OPERATOR.
THEY HAVE EXPANDED THAT TO NOW HAVE FOUR OR FIVE OPERATORS THAT HAVE THAT APPROVAL.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE OPERATE AS AN AIRLINE, SO OUR CREW TRAINING, OUR MAINTENANCE TRAINING, MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VERY THOROUGH REVIEW PROCESS AND TRAINING THAT IT'S FAR MORE REGULATED THAN YOUR LIKE REGULAR COMMERCIAL OPERATOR THAT'S LIKE TAKING PICTURES FOR REAL ESTATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WHAT THAT DOES ALLOW, IN SOME CASES,
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WOULD BE US TO FLY THE AIRCRAFT FURTHER DISTANCES.WE'VE PROVEN THAT THE AIRCRAFT AND THE TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS US TO SAFELY OPERATE BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT.
BEYOND SOMEBODY STANDING THERE AND WATCHING IT FLY, WE CAN GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
IN OUR SLIDE DECKS AND THINGS THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL IN THE PAST, OUR MAXIMUM RANGE WOULD BE ABOUT 10 MILES, WHICH IS THE MAIN KEY LOCK FOR US.
>> I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.
THESE DRONES, THEY HAVE CAMERAS THAT ATTACHED TO SOME, SO YOU GUYS CAN REMOTELY LOOK AT WHERE THEY'RE GOING OR WHERE THEY'RE AT.
>> YES, THAT'S A VERY FANTASTIC QUESTION.
OUR ZIPS USE A SYSTEM CALLED FLAT IQ, THAT'S A COMBINATION OF HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE, SO SENSORS, AS WELL AS THAT SOFTWARE TO UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT THERE'S NO LIVE VIDEO TO AN OPERATOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S LOOKING FOR THINGS LIKE PEOPLE, PETS, OBSTACLES, SO THAT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DELIVERY, WE'RE MAKING A SAFE DELIVERY AND PICKING THAT SAFE DELIVERY LOCATION.
BUT TO ANSWER A QUESTION, THERE'S NOT SOMEBODY LIKE LIVE WATCHING A FEED OFF OF THEM.
>> IS THERE A FEED TO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO THEIR CAMERA ATTACHED TO IT.
IT DOES USE SOME VISUAL SENSORS, WHICH COULD BE IN VARIOUS LIKE SPECTRUMS, SO IT COULD BE LIKE IR OR VISUAL SENSORS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> WHAT IS THE DRONE OPERATOR RATIO THAT YOU WILL BE HAVING HERE?
>> THAT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION.
THAT DOES CHANGE AND FLUCTUATE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'LL INITIALLY START WITH SOMEWHERE AROUND 1:03, BUT WE DO HAVE APPROVALS IN OTHER PARTS TO GO FAR BEYOND THAT.
OVERALL, THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH MORE THAN 50, AND THAT KEEPS INCREASING, AND THAT'S BASED OFF THE LEVEL OF SAFETY AND AUTONOMY.
OVERALL, ZIPLINE IS THE LARGEST AND MOST EXPERIENCED DRONE DELIVERY COMPANY WITH OVER 1.3 MILLION COMMERCIAL DELIVERIES SAFELY.
THAT'S OVER 90 MILLION MILES FLOWN AUTONOMOUSLY.
WITH THAT, THE AIRCRAFT IS ABLE TO DETECT AND AVOID AIRCRAFT, PEOPLE, PETS, AND OBSTACLES WITH SOMEBODY OBSERVING, PLAYING ESSENTIALLY A ROLE OF AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THAT INFORMATION, AND THEN THE SYSTEM WILL LET THEM KNOW ABOUT ANY FAULTS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> EARLIER, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS RAISED.
YOU JUST ADDRESSED THE ONE ABOUT PETS, THAT DRONES WILL BE A VIOLATION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY, PERSONAL PRIVACY.
IT WOULD BE A DISRUPTION IN THE ECOLOGICAL SYSTEM, ENDANGERING BIRDS AND OTHER AIRBORNE ANIMALS.
THAT JUST OVERALL, IT WOULD BE A DISRUPTION OF REGULAR LIFE IN PRINCETON.
WOULD YOU ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, PLEASE?
>> YES. I'LL FIRST START WITH THE WILD LIFE SET OF THINGS.
AS A PART 135 AIR CARRIER, AND IN ORDER TO LAUNCH OPERATIONS, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VERY THOROUGH REVIEW WITH THE FAA, INCLUDING AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT LOOKS AT THINGS LIKE MIGRATORY BIRD PATTERNS.
IT FACTORS IN THE, LIKE, SOUND OF THE AIRCRAFT, THE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY.
THERE IS A FEDERAL AUTHORITY THAT ACTUALLY REVIEWS THAT AND PUTS LIMITATIONS ON WHERE THE AIRCRAFT CAN OPERATE.
VERY SIMILAR TO WHEN YOU GO TO PUT LIKE A NEW AIRPORT OR YOU CHANGE THE OPERATIONS OR TIME OF OPERATIONS AT AN AIRPORT, A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS TRIGGERED BY THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE MITIGATED, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALSO VERY WELL AWARE OF.
OVER 1.3 MILLION COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERIES, WE'VE NEVER HAD A MAJOR INCIDENT WITH MIGRATORY BIRDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE REVIEWS THAT OCCUR.
THEN I THINK THE SECOND ELEMENT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISRUPTION, SO.
ZIPLINE, WE BELIEVE THAT, LIKE, AS AN INDUSTRY AND AS A COMPANY, WE CANNOT MAKE IT IF WE DON'T BUILD AN AIRCRAFT THAT GAINS PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE.
WE PUT A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN DESIGNING THE AIRCRAFT AND THE OPERATIONS INTO EVERYDAY LIFE, SOMETHING THAT BECOMES UNOBTRUSIVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND WE CONTINUE TO INVEST AND REFINE THE AIRCRAFT.
I THINK THAT, THERE'S A GENERAL CONCERN THAT THINGS GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.
BUT OVERALL, AS A COMPANY, OUR MAIN ETHOS IS, HOW DO WE MAKE PEOPLE'S LIVES BETTER? WE DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE BY BEING VERY LOUD AND ANNOYING, IT'S BY FITTING INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
WILL THERE BE ANY IMPACT OR WILL YOU BE GATHERING PERSONAL INFORMATION AS YOU FLY OVER INDIVIDUALS HOMES?
>> YES, SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN HERE IS, LIKE, ARE WE GATHERING PEOPLE'S INFORMATION OR THINGS LIKE THAT? NO, THE AIRCRAFT IS LIKE PURPOSE BUILT TO MAKE DELIVERIES, AND THAT IS WHAT THE AIRCRAFT IS DOING, AND WHAT IT'S DESIGNED FOR.
IT'S NOT A SPY DRONE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> HAS YOUR COMPANY CONSIDERED ANYTHING? OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS HERE IN PRINCETON IS TRAFFIC,
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A POTENTIAL SAFETY METHOD THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A MASS CASUALTY ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING, AND WE ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES THERE.IS THERE SOMETHING WHERE OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES CAN GET TO THE DRONES AND YOUR OPERATORS CAN GET THEM THOSE MEDICAL KIT OR THINGS THAT MAY BE NEEDED TO THAT ACCIDENT LOCATION FASTER THAN MAYBE WE CAN GET THROUGH TRAFFIC? IS THAT AN OPTION?
>> I CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER RULE ANYTHING OUT.
I THINK THAT FOR LIKE THIS PARTICULAR SITE, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PLANS FOR LIKE THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, BUT SYSTEMATICALLY, IT WOULD BE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.
WE WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> ARE YOU AWARE, THEY TALKED ABOUT BIRDS AND THINGS, BIRD STRIKES FROM DRONES? DO YOU KNOW A NUMBER? THEN HOW MANY BIRDS HAVE STRUCK DRONES? MAYBE ALSO THE NUMBER OF MAYBE, THE WINDMILLS THAT THEY HAVE OUT IN WEST TEXAS, HOW MANY BIRDS ARE GENERALLY HIT AND KILLED BY THEM?
>> JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION WAS, AM I AWARE OF HOW MANY DRONES NATIONALLY HAVE HIT BIRDS OR HOW MANY WINDMILLS HAVE DAMAGED BIRDS?
>> I AM NOT AWARE OF EITHER STATISTIC, PROBABLY SPEAKING, BUT I CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ZIPLINE ON THOSE NUMBERS, WHICH IS SAYING, AT LEAST IN THE US, WHICH IS, MY AREA OF DOMAIN, AND WE'VE NOT HAD ANY BIRD STRIKES AT ANY OF OUR OPERATIONS.
>> QUESTION. THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCT THAT THIS DRONE CAN CARRY, ONE DRAWING, IS IS IT EIGHT OUNCES OR EIGHT POUNDS?
>> EIGHT POUNDS. HOW MANY DO YOU GUYS INITIALLY INTEND TO START OUT WITH?
>> I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER AS TO WHAT WE WOULD START IN PRINCETON, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE NUMBER IS LESS THAN THAT, SO IT'S A COUPLE OF POUNDS, AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE WEIGHT AS WELL AS THE RANGE OVER TIME.
THAT'S SO WE CAN GET KEY LEARNINGS IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, AS WELL AS AS WE EXPAND OUR FA APPROVALS LIKE PER SITE.
>> NO, I MEAN, HOW MANY DRONE PLANES.
>> I BELIEVE THAT THE SITE PLAN HERE IN PRINCETON HAS A MAXIMUM, THEORETICAL CAPACITY OF 20 AIRCRAFT THAT COULD BE STAGED.
ONLY TWO OF THE AREAS ALLOW FOR LOADING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THE REST WOULD BE ALL LIKE CHARGING AND STAGING, AND THEN TWO AIRCRAFT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE LOADED AT A TIME.
>> I'M LEADING SOMEWHERE HERE.
IS IT DESIGNED TO GROW, WHEN YOU GUYS INITIALLY START WITH THE 20 DRONES, DO YOU BUILD IT WITH THE INTENTION OF CONTINGENCY OF IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL IN PRINCETON THAT YOU PLAN TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 20 TO THOSE AT SOME POINT?
>> NOTHING THAT I AM AWARE OF, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THE CURRENT PLAN FOR PRINCETON IS BUILDING FOR THE OPTIMAL AMOUNT OF DELIVERIES AND NOT TO COME BACK.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY, BUSINESS HAS CHANGED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I WOULD NEVER, SHUT THE DOOR ON THAT, BUT AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR GROWTH.
>> AT THE FIRST MEETING, YOU HAD DISCUSSED THAT MAPS WILL BE BUILT FOR DETERMINING THE DELIVERY OF PACKAGES.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE ARE COLLECTING SURFACE DATA AND STORING IT, WHICH INCLUDES PHOTOS.
DO YOU HAVE PRIVACY POLICIES WITHIN YOUR CONTRACT WITH WALMART TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS SO THAT THAT INFORMATION CANNOT BE SOLD TO THINGS SUCH AS PROPERTY INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT COULD USE THAT TO IMPACT THE INSURANCE RATES FOR RESIDENTS?
>> YES I THINK THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF ITEMS THERE.
ONE OF THEM IS WE DO TAKE PRIVACY VERY SERIOUSLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANY PRE MAPPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO UNDERSTAND OBSTACLES THAT IS FROM, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA THAT ALREADY EXISTS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, LIKE A GOOGLE MAPS TYPE THING, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THINGS LIKE WATER TOWERS OR THINGS THAT ARE VERY OBVIOUS TO US.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE SYSTEM FLIGHT IQ IS DYNAMICALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OBSTACLES.
AS FAR AS I AM AWARE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE SPECIFICS OF OUR PRIVACY POLICY OR THE WALMART SIDE, WHICH I INVITE WALMART TO SPEAK TO.
BUT ON OUR WEBSITE, WE DO LIST OUR FULL PRIVACY POLICY.
WE ARE A DELIVERY COMPANY LIKE UPS.
OUR BUSINESS IS MOVING GOODS FROM THE WALMART TO THE CONSUMER'S HOUSE.
IF YOU DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM WALMART AT ALL?
>> ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, PLEASE.
WHAT SECURITY? I MEAN, THIS IS NOVEL TO THIS AREA.
THESE DRONES WILL BE HOSTED AT A HUB AT WALMART.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE EXTRA SECURITY.
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WOULD THAT PULL ON THE CITY'S RESOURCES, OR DO YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, A SECURITY PLAN IN PLACE?>> THE AIRCRAFT, WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR DOCKS ARE GENERALLY, WELL PROTECTED BASED OFF THE ACTUAL LIKE DESIGN AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE ALSO DO A LOT OF WORK ON THE DESIGN TO MAKE THEM, ANTI SCALABLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ACTUALLY PREVENTS ANY DAMAGE.
WE ALSO HAVE SYSTEMS THAT DO PRE FLIGHT CHECKS AND WOULD NOTIFY US OF ISSUES SO THAT WE COULD DYNAMICALLY, LIKE SEND PERSONNEL OUT.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, EARLY OPERATIONS, WE'LL KEEP SOMEBODY ON SITE TO MONITOR THE AIRCRAFT AND THE OPERATIONS.
BUT GENERALLY, LIKE PLAN A RECORD IS, WE WOULD MOVE TO USING WALMART'S RESOURCES AND SECURITY AS PART OF THEIR FACILITY.
I'M JUST GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MARK WALMART HERE.
>> GOOD EVENING. MARK BERGMAN WITH WALMART.
ADDRESS IS GOING TO BE 702 SOUTHWEST H STREET FROM BENTONVILLE, ARKANSAS, ZIP CODE 72716. HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DATA.
>> THE SURFACE DATA HAS TO BE COLLECTED TO CREATE THESE MAPS.
THIS INFORMATION, IF SOLD TO A THIRD PARTY, COULD BE USED BY INSURANCE COMPANIES TO IMPACT THE INSURANCE RATES FOR SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS JUST BY GOING THROUGH AND TAKING THAT SURFACE DATA.
WHAT POLICIES DO YOU HAVE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE NOT SELLING THAT INFORMATION TO THIRD PARTIES AND PROTECTING THOSE PRIVACIES OF OUR RESIDENTS?
>> WALMART TAKES CUSTOMER DATA EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY.
WE PROTECT CUSTOMER DATA FOR THE MOST PART, AND WE HAVE AN ENTIRE LEGAL SYSTEM WHENEVER IT COMES TO HOW WE HANDLE CUSTOMER DATA BECAUSE WE WANT TO RETAIN OUR CUSTOMERS.
FOR THE MOST PART, WE LOVE OUR CUSTOMERS.
WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE? WE DO NOT UTILIZE THAT DATA.
FOR JUST AS CONNOR HAD BASICALLY STATED, WE UTILIZE FOR A LOT OF GOOGLE MAPS AND PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE INFORMATION.
RIGHT NOW FOR THE DRONE DELIVERY PROGRAM, WE ARE PRETTY ONE TRACK FOCUSED, DELIVERING PRODUCTS TO THE CUSTOMER. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> I GUESS, PART OF IT IS BECAUSE DURING ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS, THAT WHEN THE DRONES GOING AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO DROP, IT CAN IDENTIFY IF SOMETHING'S THERE, AND SO IT'S GOING TO MOVE, SO IT IS COLLECTING SOME SURFACE DATA, NOT JUST THOSE GOOGLE MAPS.
WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CLEAR THAT THERE IS SOME DATA BEING COLLECTED THERE.
>> WE'LL SWAP BACK FOR THIS ONE.
THANK YOU. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTAND THE QUESTION EARLIER.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DROWN COMING DOWN AND USING LIKE FLIGHT IQ TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE, PATS OBSTACLES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
ALL OF THAT IS USED, LIKE ONBOARD THE AIRCRAFT.
THEN ANYTHING THAT IS LIKE MOVED OFF THE AIRCRAFT AT, A LATER DATE IS COVERED UNDER OUR PRIVACY POLICY AND IS ONLY RETAINED WITHIN, LIKE FEDERAL LAW.
IF THERE'S ANY REQUIREMENTS TO MAINTAIN FLIGHT DATA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE MAY BE REQUIRED TO KEEP IT.
HOWEVER, BEFORE IT'S VIEWED BY ANY PEOPLE.
THIS WOULD BE ZI PLAN EMPLOYEES.
IT'S A TRUSTED SET A SMALL, LIKE TRUSTED SET OF ENGINEERS.
IT GOES THROUGH A PROGRAM THAT AUTOMATICALLY BLURS, ANY LIKE PEOPLE'S FACES, FOR EXAMPLE.
BUT THE ACTUAL AREA THAT YOU'RE SEEING AS FAR AS POST DELIVERY IS GENERALLY PRETTY TIGHTLY CROPPED IN TO WHERE THE PACKAGE WOULD BE DELIVERED.
YOU'D BE LOOKING AT LIKE PACKAGE DELIVERY PLUS SOME AMOUNT OF LIKE BUFFERS PACE LIKE FEET ON EACH END IS GENERALLY WHAT YOU'D BE LOOKING AT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> REAL QUICK THERE ARE CAMERAS ON IT?
>> YEAH. VISUAL SENSORS, IN SOME CASES, DEPENDING ON THE FREQUENCY THAT IT SEES, SOME PEOPLE MAY CALL THEM CAMERAS.
>> I KNOW WE HAD A PRESENTATION BEFORE, BUT I DON'T RECALL.
DOES WALMART UTILIZE THE SERVICE ANYWHERE, SO IS THIS THE FIRST ONE?
>> WE DO HAVE ZIP LINE OPERATING FOR US OVER IN NORTHWEST ARKANSAS, P RIDGE.
WE HAVE A FIRST GENERATION OF THE AIRCRAFT.
THEN WE'VE GOT A SECOND GENERATION.
PRINCETON WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE DFW AREA.
>> I WANT TO DIRECT MY QUESTION TO YOU THEN.
IF THERE IS AN ACCIDENT ON 380 OR SOMETHING AND CHIEF WATERS SENDS SOMEONE OVER TO HIM AND WE NEED THIS KIT THERE.
WOULD WALMART BE WILLING TO USE THEIR OPERATOR TO GET
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THAT KIT TO OUR EMERGENCY PERSONNEL AS FAST AS POSSIBLE FOR US.>> WE WOULD LOVE TO BUILD THAT CAPABILITY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT USE CASE FOR THE SERVICE.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING GOODWILL WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
WE DON'T HAVE IT TODAY BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO DESIGNATE AN ADDRESS AND COORDINATES, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY BUILD ON.
>> A QUICK QUESTION FOR ZIP LINE.
JUST TO MAYBE CLARIFY THE VISUAL SENSOR, SLASH CAMERA QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
ARE THERE CAMERAS OR VISUAL SENSORS ON THESE THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE AN IMAGE THAT LOOK LIKE THAT?
>> IS THERE SOMETHING ON THERE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE CLARITY OF THE PICTURE THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW?
>> THERE'S NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THE LIKE IMAGERY THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WOULD BE FROM THE DROID, WHICH IS GENERALLY LIKE POST DELIVERY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SIMILAR TO HOW AMAZON TAKES A PICTURE AFTER THEY DELIVER SOMETHING, DELIVERY TYPE CONFIRMATION IMAGE IS GENERALLY WHAT WOULD BE LIKE THE DATA THAT YOU WOULD SEE.
>> ARE THERE EXAMPLES OF THAT THAT COULD BE PROVIDED THAT WE COULD SHOW THE RESIDENTS TO PUT THEM AT EASE FOR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE?
I>> DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE CURRENTLY WITH US.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOME INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE, AS WELL AS WE DO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH COMMS DEPARTMENTS IN VARIOUS CITIES, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL IS VERY VITAL.
OUR COMMUNICATIONS CAN WORK WITH YOUR GUYS COMMUNICATIONS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE.
>> ANYBODY ELSE COUNSEL WANT TO SPEAK?
>> MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE PROCEED, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ANNOUNCE THE TIME TO ALLOW ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. THANK YOU.
>> THE TIME IS 7:58, AND THIS WILL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.
IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU CAN SPEAK NOW.
COME ON. PLEASE STATE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> RICK POWELL, COUNTY ROAD 770, PRINCETON, TEXAS.
I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT HOW BIG A DRONE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT KIND OF CARRYING CAPACITY DO THEY HAVE? WHO IS IN COMMAND OF THEM? AND HOW MANY ARE THERE GOING TO BE? A HUB TO ME BRINGS UP AN IMAGE OF A BUSY TERM, A BUSY AIRPORT.
ARE THEY EQUIPPED TO DO THAT? IS THERE ANY OTHER DATA FROM OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE HAD THESE SYSTEMS IN PLACE AND ARE FUNCTIONAL? AND WHAT RECORDS THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE PRACTICAL AND EVEN NEEDED.
THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT I DON'T WANT TO STOP PROGRESS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE A PROVING GROUND FOR SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN ELSEWHERE. THAT'S MY CONCERN.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO WHAT HE JUST SAID?
>> AS FAR AS DEMAND, THIS YEAR ALONE, WE'VE SEEN A 20% GROWTH IN ONLINE SALES FOR WALMART, AND WE'RE SEEING A GROWTH IN OVERALL DEMAND WITHIN THE DFW ONLINE PICKUP AND DELIVERY.
YOU GO TO ANY WALMART IN THE DFW MARKET, AND YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND LESS THAN 20 PARKING SPACES FOR ONLINE PICKUP AND DELIVERY.
WE SEE A TREMENDOUS NEED IN THE COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRAFFIC AND HAVING DRIVERS OUT ON THE ROAD THERE.
WE SEE THE VALUE IN DRONE DELIVERY BEING ABLE TO GET ITEMS WEIGHING LESS THAN EIGHT POUNDS TO CUSTOMERS IN LESS THAN 30 MINUTES.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY LIKE MY DAUGHTER WHO I JUST SAW OFF GOING OVER TO TEXAS TECH, AND SHE CALLS ME UP LATE AT NIGHT.
SHE SAYS, DAD, CAN YOU GET ME SOMETHING TO EAT, OR CAN I GET SOME COLD MEDICINE? AND I'M PRETTY FAR AWAY, AND I'M ABLE TO DO IT AT THE DROP OF A DIME FROM MY PHONE AND GET THAT DELIVERY MADE TO MY DAUGHTER.
IT'S TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THE CUSTOMER.
I WOULD JUST SAY, YES, THERE'S A GREAT NEED FOR A SERVICE LIKE THIS.
AS FAR AS THE SAFETY RECORD, I'D INVITE CONNOR TO COME BACK UP AND REITERATE THE SAFETY RECORD THAT ZIPLINE HAS HAD AS FAR AS ZIPLINE.
>> YEAH, SO 1.3 MILLION COMMERCIAL DELIVERIES WORLDWIDE, OVER 90 MILLION AUTONOMOUS MILES FLOWN.
WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, ZIPPIN REALLY IS THE LEADER BOTH IN EXPERIENCE AND SAFETY.
AS FAR AS, BEING PROVEN, I THINK THAT OUR NUMBERS REALLY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES WORLDWIDE, INCLUDING OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH WALMART IN NORTHWEST ARKANSAS, WHERE FOLKS USE THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
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WE HAVE HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS FROM CONSUMERS WHO MENTIONED THINGS LIKE HAVING A SICK TODDLER.RATHER THAN HAVING TO LOAD THE WHOLE FAMILY UP INTO THE TRUCK, DRIVE 15, 20 MINUTES TO THE STORE, GO GET THAT MEDICINE OR ITEMS FOR DINNER, AND THEN LOAD THE KIDS BACK UP, THEY ARE ABLE TO JUMP ON THE ZIPLINE APP AND HAVE ITEMS DELIVERED TO THEM IN MINUTES.
>> WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH 20?
>> THIS SITE WOULD BE THEORETICALLY CAPABLE OF 20.
>> I THINK WE'RE GOOD. IS ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> TRE JONES, 511, GUNSMOKE TRAIL, PRINCETON, TEXAS 75407.
ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE JUST KNOWING THE WORKFORCE FOR THE PRINCETON LOCATION.
PRINCETON HOUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY, A LOT OF THE STUDENTS, THEY WORK AT THE WALMART.
WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE ECONOMICALLY? IT WAS MENTIONED THAT FOR THE DRONES, IT WOULD BE ONE OPERATOR TO THREE DRONES.
HOW DOES THAT LOOK FOR THE PEOPLE OF PRINCETON, THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN PRINCETON, WHAT DOES THIS BRING IN TO THE COMMUNITY, BESIDES A DELIVERY SERVICE THAT IS CURRENTLY RAN AND OPERATED BY PRINCETON WORKFORCE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE TRAVEL HERE TO DO DELIVERY.
>> WHEN THIS WAS FIRST INTRODUCED, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED, WHETHER THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS TO LEARN THE TECHNOLOGY AND ACTUALLY OPERATE THE DRONES THEMSELVES.
WE WERE LOOKING FOR AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO BE INCLUDED, ONE, AND TWO, MAYBE AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMPANY SAID THAT THEY WOULD LOOK INTO AND HELP DEVELOP WORKING WITH THE PISD.
>> HAVE THEY PROVIDED ANY SORT OF FEEDBACK? THEY SAID THAT THEY HAVE A PLAN ALREADY OPERATING IN ARKANSAS.
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE THERE? WHAT DOES THEIR WORKFORCE LOOK LIKE THERE? WHAT COMPENSATION DO THEY RECEIVE? HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE SURROUNDING AREA? WITH TECHNOLOGY AND A LOT OF THINGS BEING AUTOMATED, YOU LOSE A LOT OF THE MANPOWER, AND IT'S REPLACED BY TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS LOVELY.
BUT WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE COMMUNITY?
>> YOU'RE ASKING HOW MANY JOBS DO THE DRONES TAKE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? I'M NOT SURE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
>> I CAN'T GIVE AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN I SAY THERE'S A GROWING DEMAND FOR ONLINE PICKUP AND DELIVERY, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A GROWING DEMAND.
THAT'S OUTPACING WHAT WE CAN CURRENTLY USE OUR DRIVERS TO DELIVER.
WE ARE EXCEEDING THAT DEMAND RIGHT NOW TODAY.
THIS IS TO ADD TO THAT DELIVERY NETWORK.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THESE JOBS HERE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEWER JOBS, THESE TECHNOLOGY, THESE ARE MUCH HIGHER PAYING JOBS.
>> I THINK, KEN, PLEASE STATE NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> KEN SELIGMAN, 512 BUCKEYE AVENUE.
BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT, I'D LIKE TO SAY, WITH REGARD TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT A GROWING DEMAND, NOT ABLE TO MEET.
WE USE HOME DELIVERY A LOT, AND I'VE NEVER HAD THEM SAY THEY COULDN'T DELIVER MY GROCERIES.
USUALLY, IT'S MORE THAN YOU DELIVER PROBABLY EIGHT POUND DRONE, THOUGH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS EXHIBIT THAT HE HANDED OUT THIS EVENING SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE THE LAUNCHING STATION IS.
YOU COULDN'T SEE IT WHEN IT WENT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING.
I COMMENTED THAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS, AND YOU COULDN'T SEE IT IN THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE PRESENTED AT PLANNING ZONING.
WHERE EXACTLY IS THE LAUNCH STATION? IS IT IS IT ON THE AUTO SIDE OR? ON THE AUTO SIDE? IN MY EXPERIENCE, DEALING WITH NOISE ORDINANCES, THE NOISE ORDINANCE HAD TWO RESTRICTIONS.
IT HAD ONE FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS,
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AND IT HAD A SECOND ONE WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC SPACES, WHERE A LOT OF THE PUBLIC WAS, LIKE THE STORE, LIKE THE CONVENIENCE STORE THAT'S RIGHT THERE, LIKE PEOPLE WALKING AND DRIVING ALL OVER HERE.I EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT IT, AND BASICALLY THERE WAS A DISSENT AND MR. HEISS WANTED TO TABLE IT FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
IT WAS LIKE WELL, WE'VE GOT TO APPROVE THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WITH REGARD TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE, I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
YOU'VE GOT BUILDINGS RIGHT BEHIND THERE.
THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING UP RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
TERESA BACK THERE, SHE HAD A GREAT IDEA.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE EXPERTS HERE SAY.
SHE SAID, "WHY COULDN'T THEY LAUNCH THE DRONES FROM ON TOP OF THE BUILDING?" WHY COULDN'T THEY MOVE JUST KEEP ALL THAT INSIDE THE BUILDING AND PUT IT ON TOP OF THE BUILDING? THEN YOU FURTHER INSULATE IT FROM THE SOUND OF THE HOUSING AND THE CARS, PASSER BYS, LESS DANGER OF IT, A DRONE HITTING A PERSON OR A CAR, WHEN IT'S LANDING OR TAKEN OFF, IT'S ALREADY UP THERE.
MAYBE IT LAND CRASHED ONTO THE ROOF, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN CRASHING INTO A PERSON OR A CAR.
THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, THE NOISE AND POSSIBLE POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION OF NOISE ORDINANCE WITH RESPECT TO HIGH POPULATED COMMERCIAL AREAS AS WELL, NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
>> AS I THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THIS INITIATIVE, IT IS NEW, AND IT'S DIFFERENT AND WHEN NEW THINGS ARE INTRODUCED, WE'RE OFTEN SKEPTICAL, AND WE ARE OFTEN A LITTLE SCARED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
BUT PRINCETON AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS ARE DEVELOPING REALLY RAPIDLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN JUST IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING HERE, THEY'RE VERY NOVEL, WITH THE PARKS, WITH THE LIBRARY, WITH ALL OF THE ADVANCEMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN.
I KNOW THAT WHEN THE YOUNGER GENTLEMAN WAS HERE LAST TIME AND HE TALKED ABOUT THEIR TRACK RECORD IN DIFFICULT PLACES IN AFRICA.
THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE NOT AS WELL KNOWN IN THE US, BUT THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THEIR WORK HAS BEEN DONE, THAT THEY'VE HAD SUCCESSFUL DELIVERIES.
HE'S INDICATED THAT THEY OPERATE MORE LIKE AN AIRLINE AND A DRONE SYSTEM.
I KNOW IN THE NATIONAL NEWS LATELY, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF UPHEAVAL ABOUT DRONES AND THEIR CAPABILITY AND WHETHER THEY'RE SPYING AND JUST ALL THE OTHER STORIES THAT HAVE COME OUT ABOUT DRONES.
BUT I THINK, OVERALL, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT 380 AND THE TRAFFIC, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, AS CHRISTINA HAS BEEN ASKING, IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, AND CHIEF WATERS NEEDED TO GET EMERGENCY MEDICATION SOMEWHERE, RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH TRAFFIC, I'M SURE WALMART WOULD NOT MIND PUTTING THAT WHATEVER IT IS IN ONE OF THE DRONES AND DELIVERING IT.
I THINK AS WE REVIEW THIS, WE NEED TO CAREFULLY THINK, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF TODAY, BUT IN TERMS OF 1015 YEARS FROM NOW, WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE COMMONPLACE THAT WE COULD PROBABLY GIVE IT A CHANCE, AND THEN FIGHT JUST LIKE COMPUTERS.
WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT COMPUTERS WERE GOING TO GIVE US.
WE DID GO TO TAKE JOBS AWAY FROM PEOPLE, BUT WE'VE SEEN THAT THEY'VE CREATED OTHER INDUSTRIES.
I WOULD JUST CAUTION NOT TO BE SO AFRAID OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, BUT OF THE PROMISE THAT IT WILL BRING AND HOW IT WILL PLACE PRINCETON IN A PRIME POSITION TO BE ONE OF THE KEY PLACES IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, AND IN THIS AREA THAT IS DRIVING TECHNOLOGY, INVOLVING OUR STUDENTS, MAKING THEM READY FOR THE FUTURE AHEAD.
I TOO WAS SKEPTICAL OF THIS, BUT JUST WEIGHING ALL THAT I'VE HEARD, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN AWESOME VENTURE FOR US.
>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, ZABLINE? ON NOVEMBER 26, 2024,
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WIRELESS WORKS FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST YOU FOR PATENT INFRINGEMENT.WOULD THE RESULTS OF THAT IMPACT ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE, SHOULD WE GO FORWARD WITH HAVING THE DRONES?
I'M ALSO NOT IN A POSITION TO COMMENT ON ANY PENDING LITIGATION, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU COULD SEND TO LEGALATFLIESFINE.COM, AND SOMEBODY FROM OUR LEGAL TEAM WOULD BE HAPPY TO REVIEW THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT.
OF COURSE, THE LOCATION IS RIGHT THERE BEHIND THE SERVICE STATIONERY RIGHT THERE AT THE CURVE, AND IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD LOCATION.
THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE PARK OVER THERE ANYWAY TO SHOP.
I ALWAYS HAD A CONCERN ABOUT OR THINK ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET THEM OVER THERE TO WHERE YOUR LOADING DOCK IS THAT PORTION.
BUT THERE WAS ALSO PEOPLE SAID WELL, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING AND WALKING.
I'M SURE IT'S JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T GO OUT HERE AT MCKINNEY NATIONAL AIRPORT AND WALK OUT ON THE RUNWAY.
BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SAFEGUARDS THERE TO KEEP YOU FROM GETTING INJURED AND YOU CANNOT ACCESS THAT AREA.
IF IT'S FEDERALLY REGULATED, THEN IT'S FEDERAL REGULATIONS IF YOU TRESPASS ON THOSE TYPE PERIO, KIND OF LIKE AN AIRPORT.
ALSO ABOUT THE NOISE LEVEL, THE DESCAL LEVELS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE EVER RIDDEN IN A CESSNA 152 OR 150 OR 170, 180 ANY OF THOSE SMALL AIRCRAFT.
THE DECI LEVELS ON THOSE ARE VERY HIGH SITTING ON THE GROUND OR EVEN TAKEN OFF.
YOU CAN I'M GOING TO SAY THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY HEAR A PLANE FLYING ACROSS PRINCETON OR FROM SOME DISTANCE, AND THEY'RE PROBABLY THEY COULD BE 2000 FOOT UP, AND YOU CAN HEAR THEM FLYING.
YOU WONDER WHERE THEY'RE AT OR EVEN A HELICOPTER, ESPECIALLY, AND HOW LOUD THEY ARE.
A DRONE, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A BUZZING SOUND.
IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND DRONES, THEY WON'T BE VERY STEALTHY IN THEIR OPERATIONS.
I MEAN, THAT'S A REASON WHY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USES THEM, THE MILITARY USE THEM FOR THEIR STEALTH CAPABILITIES.
THE DECEL LEVELS IS NOT GOING TO BE THAT THAT BAD.
I DON'T THINK. THEN YOU WONDERED ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY ABOUT WHETHER THEY'VE GOT CAMERAS.
OF COURSE, THESE CAMERAS HERE THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY TO FIND THE LOCATION GPS, WHATEVER.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE BOUNCING SIGNAL OFF OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
BUT I'LL GUARANTEE YOU, EVERYONE THAT'S THINKING ABOUT THAT, IF YOU HAVE A SMARTPHONE, AND EVERYONE OUT HERE PROBABLY HAS A SMARTPHONE, PROBABLY AN IPHONE.
I NOT ADVERTISING FOR APPLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE SITTING AROUND TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, LIKE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO BUY OR SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE.
NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AN ADVERTISEMENT ON YOUR IPHONE.
YOU HAVEN'T EVEN HAD TO LOOK ANYTHING UP OR GOOGLE IT OR ANYTHING.
THE TECHNOLOGY IS OUT THERE, AND YOU'RE BEING LOOKED AFTER ALL THE TIME, SPYING.
I THINK THIS IS LIKE, LIKE MISS DAVID-GRAVES SAYS I THINK THIS TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT, AND THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING FOR US.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE IT? WELL, THEY'VE GOT 20 DRONES OUT THERE.
I WOULD IMAGINE THEY MIGHT HAVE ONE OR TWO IN THE AREA ARE AT ANY TIME.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A RUSH TO DO THIS.
SOME PEOPLE DO IT JUST FOR THE NOVELTY OF IT TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO FLY OUT THERE AND SEE IF THEY CAN DELIVER YOU SOMETHING.
NOW, AS FAR AS EMERGENCY OPERATIONS AND EVERYTHING, THEY SAID I'M SURE THERE'D BE SOME MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT BOTH HAVE DRONES THAT ARE TRAINED ON TO DO THAT.
DO THOSE VERY THINGS TO DELIVER EMERGENCY SUPPLIES IF NEEDED.
THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY, YOU KNOW? THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING ADDITIONAL IF IT'S NEEDED.
I CAN TELL YOU BEFORE WE GOT DRONES BEFORE SEARCH AND RESCUE AND THINGS, MANY TIMES WE ARRIVES ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE OR EVEN AS COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL, WE'D CALL ON PHI HELICOPTER TO SEE IF THEY HAD A UNIT AVAILABLE, AND THEY'D FLY AND DO SEARCH FORCE.
THEY DO ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
THE CAPABILITY IS OUT THERE AND THINGS, BUT WE'D APPRECIATE WALMART IF THEY DO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO ASSIST.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT ABOUT SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT THE QUALIFICATION, THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE HIGHER END PAID JOBS, I'M SURE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE YOUNG MAN THAT'S OUT THERE PUSHING THE BUGGIES TO GO BACK THERE, HEY, WE NEED YOU THIS DAY.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASSIGNED TO DRANO DRONE OPERATIONS.
ARE BEING A SELF CHECK OUT PERSON.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY, HEY, IT'S MY DAY TO GO BACK THERE AND OPERATE THE DRONES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY QUALIFIED POSITION TO DO THAT.
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YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT FLY THE DRONES FOR THE MILITARY ARE LIKE PILOTS.THEY GO THROUGH EXTENSIVE TRAINING BECAUSE OF THE LIABILITY THAT LAYS THERE.
I'M SURE THAT THE PILOTS THAT DO THESE IS JUST LIKE SIMILAR TYPE OF THINGS.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
>> TO PIGGY BACK OFF A COMMENT THAT YOU JUST MADE.
CHIEF WATERS, THE DRONES THAT YOU DO HAVE, ARE THEY CAPABLE OF CARRYING THINGS, OR ARE THEY JUST FOR CHECKING THE AREA?
>> THE QUESTION IS, THE DRONES THAT WE HAVE, ARE THEY ABLE TO CARRY THINGS? THE DRONES THAT WE ASCERTAIN FOR CID AND OUR SWAT TEAM, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO CARRY MAYBE ONE, MAYBE TWO POUNDS, ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER DRONES.
I KNOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THEY WERE ABLE TO.
I WON'T TALK ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ANYMORE.
I LEARNED MY LESSON ON THAT ONE.
>> THEY CANNOT CARRY THINGS THAT WALMART'S COULD IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY?
>> HONORABLE MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT BECAUSE I THINK I'VE HEARD ALL THAT I NEED TO HEAR.
I'VE LIVED IN DALLAS DURING THE TIME EVERYONE WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE ARRIVAL OF THE LIME SCOOTERS.
IT WAS NEW. IT WAS INNOVATIVE.
IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS NEW THING.
A FEW YEARS LATER IT BECAME ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT DALLAS EVER DONE TO WHERE THEY EVEN GOT THOSE REMOVED.
SOMETIMES BEING THE FIRST IN LINE TO SOMETHING ISN'T ALWAYS THE BEST THING.
FOR ME, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY COMMITMENT TO THE STUDENTS BEING ABLE TO USE THIS OR THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT STATED THAT THIS WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE STUDENTS IN TERMS OF, HEY, WE'RE BRINGING THIS IN TO CREATE THESE JOBS AND HELP WITH THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING THERE. WISHFUL THINKING, BUT NOTHING IN BLACK AND WHITE THAT STATES THAT.
AS FAR AS PRINCETON, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE BUILT FOR THIS IN TERMS OF TO LOOK AT IT AS A BENEFIT FOR US IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE THREE LARGE EMPLOYERS HERE IN THE CITY, THE CITY OF PRINCETON, WALMART AND THE ISD.
I THINK THE GENTLEMAN FROM WALMART SPOKE TO IT.
NO ONE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS FOR IT.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THESE ARE CREATED TO REDUCE THAT, TO HELP INCREASE PROFITS.
FOR ME, I PERSONALLY JUST DON'T SEE THAT IT'S A BENEFIT FOR US.
IT'S NOT A NO AS OF NOW, BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW FOR ME IN TERMS OF PRINCETON.
>> ALL RIGHT. MAXINE, IF YOU COULD COME UP, PLEASE.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> MAXINE ELLIS, 914 BLUEWOOD, PRINCETON, TEXAS.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IN THE VERY FIRST MEETING AND ALL THE SUBSEQUENTIAL MEETINGS, THIS WAS COMING WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT.
THEY WERE JUST BEING NICE AND BRINGING IT.
LETTING US KNOW AND LETTING THE CITY KNOW, AND WE WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES FOR THE FEET FROM CERTAIN DISTANCES AND THAT.
BUT EITHER WAY, THE DRONES WERE COMING.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THE INITIAL MEETING AND THE MEETINGS AFTER.
>> THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND TOO. I'M NOT SURE IF MS. MASHBURN OR GRANT COULD SPEAK ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WAS WHAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING.
THE ORDINANCES WAS JUST TO RESTRICT CERTAIN THINGS.
>> IT WAS JUST A NICE WAY WE'RE TELLING YOU IT'S COMING.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO GOVERN THE FLIGHT PAD OR ANYTHING, JUST THE LAUNCH PAD.
>> THEN THE OTHER THING GOING TO MR. DEFFIBAUGH REGARDING THE NOISE.
THERE ARE CARS OUT THERE THAT ARE LOUDER THAN WHAT THIS DRONE IS GOING TO BE.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S RESIDENTS IN THE CITY, IN MY OWN COMMUNITY THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT CARS DRIVING DOWN BEAUCHAMP.
THOSE CARS ARE GOING TO BE LOUDER AND A MOTORCYCLE IS LOUDER THAN WHAT A DRONE IS GOING TO BE.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN REGARDING THE NOISE.
BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY LOUDER THAN A MOTORCYCLE RIDING DOWN THE STREET.
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GOING WITH CAROLYN, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S COMING.NO MATTER WHAT, IT'S COMING. THANK YOU.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT TO ADD THAT I JUST DID SOME RESEARCH AND THE DRONE IS ALREADY OPERATING IN FORT WORTH, FRISCO, LITTLE ELM, GRANBURY, ARLINGTON, NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, AND LOUISVILLE.
MY COMMENTS WERE NOT IN REGARDS TO US KNOWING THAT WE CAN OR CANNOT VOTE ON THIS.
MY COMMENTS WAS, MY LACK OF SUPPORT FOR THE TECHNOLOGY COMING TO PRINCETON AT THIS TIME.
MY PLEA WAS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM WALMART TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY, AND HOPE THEY KEEP THAT IN MIND MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF WHEN THESE ARE BEING INTRODUCED, THAT THE STUDENTS DO GET TO KEEP THEIR JOBS AND HOW IT IS IN EFFORT TO US.
>> JUST FOR REFERENCE. THE SITES THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED, WALMART DOES HAVE ADDITIONAL OPERATING SITES WITH DRONE DELIVERY.
WHEN I MENTIONED ZIPLINE, ZIPLINE HAS ONE IN NORTHWEST ARKANSAS.
THE ADDITIONAL SITES YOU WERE MENTIONING, THEY ARE WITH ANOTHER VENDOR, AS WELL AS OTHER VENDORS THAT ARE NOT OPERATING WITH WALMART.
YEAH. COMMENT IS TAKEN. THANK YOU.
>> KEN, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE OR? TERESA COME ON.
>> I'M TERESA MCGUINNESS FROM ARCADIA FARMS. MY BIG THING WITH THIS IS, NOISE, TECHNOLOGY, THAT'S ALL GREAT.
BUT OUR COMMUNITY, I WANT TO SAY LAST TIME I LOOKED OUR AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME WAS 96,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S ON THE LOWER END SIDE IF YOU COMPARE IT TO SALINA, MCKINNEY AND PLANO.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXPERIENCES THAT I HAD.
I HAD AN ORDER FROM WALMART AND IT CAME, AND THE GUY HE WAS AN IMMIGRANT.
HE CAME. HE DIDN'T SPEAK THE GREATEST ENGLISH.
HE CAME TO DROP MY BAG OF APPLES OFF AT THE DOOR, AND I HAPPENED TO OPEN THE DOOR.
WELL, I LOOKED DOWN AND WELL, THEY WERE ROTTEN.
THERE WAS TWO ROTTEN APPLES IN THERE.
IT SOUNDS STUPID. I SHOWED HIM, LOOK IT IS ROTTEN.
HE WAS THE NICEST GUY. HE PICKED UP.
HE TOOK IT. HE TOLD ME HE'D TAKE CARE OF IT.
TOOK IT BACK. THEY REFUNDED MY MONEY.
IT WAS NOT A PROBLEM. IN THIS SCENARIO, IF I HAD A DRONE THAT DROPPED THAT ON MY PORCH, WELL, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
NO ONE'S GOING TO JUMP IN AND HELP ME.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A JOB BECAUSE WHETHER HE WORKS FOR WALMART OR WHOEVER'S DELIVERING IT, HE DOESN'T HAVE A JOB.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUSHING THE CARTS IN THE PARKING LOT, BUT IT'S MORE THAN THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST THEM. IT'S THE DRIVERS.
RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY IS SAYING, IT'S COMING IN SLOW.
BUT THIS COMMUNITY IS GROWING.
LOOK, WE'RE PACKING IN HIGH DENSITY HOUSING WHICH IS BRINGING IN LOWER INCOME PEOPLE, AND YOU'RE TAKING JOBS AWAY.
YOU CAN LOOK AT IT ANYWAY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE, IT MAKES NO SENSE.
NOW, IF YOU WANT TO GO DO IT IN SALINA WHERE THE AVERAGE INCOME IS 140 GRAND A YEAR, AND THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT PACKING IN HIGH DENSITY, LOW INCOME HOUSING TO GET LOW INCOME FAMILIES IN HERE, WELL, THAT'S GREAT.
REALITY IS IN OUR COMMUNITY WE NEED EVERYTHING WE CAN GET.
WE HAVE A LOT OF IMMIGRANTS IN OUR COUNTRY ALREADY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF MIGRANTS COME IN FROM EVERYWHERE ALL OVER THE WORLD.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME IN WITH THE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCE TO WORK DRONES OR DO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY COME IN, AND THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THEIR FAMILY.
THEY'RE WORKING HARD. THEY'RE DELIVERING STUFF.
THEY'RE COMING TO YOUR HOUSE. THEY HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE.
THEY'RE TAKING THAT AWAY. YEAH, RIGHT NOW, THE NEXT FEW MONTHS OR WHENEVER WHEN IT GETS GOING, IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
BUT AS IT GETS BIGGER AND IT GROWS, WHERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE GOING TO GET THEIR JOBS? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE COMMUNITY? WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANYTHING IN THAT'S MAKING ANYTHING BETTER.
WE'RE BRINGING IN PEOPLE, AND WE'RE TAKING SOMETHING AWAY. I KNOW IT'S TOO LATE.
I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP, BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO REALIZE THAT WHEN STUFF LIKE THIS COMES UP, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE.
YOU CAN'T JUST ZONE IN ON SOUND, AND YOU CAN'T JUST ZONE IN ON HUBS.
YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE OF THE CITY, AND DOES THIS MAKE SENSE IN PRINCETON? TERRANCE SAID IT. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR PRINCETON RIGHT NOW.
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THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS I FEEL BAD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DELIVERING IT, AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MISTAKES.WHEN SOMETHING IS DROPPED AT THEIR HOUSE THAT'S NOT THEIRS, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO CALL SOMEBODY AND NO ONE'S GOING TO ANSWER THE PHONE. THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON HOLD.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FRUSTRATION, AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY HELP.
BUT THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> HAS ZIPLINE EVER PARTNERED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PROVIDE THOSE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, SO WE CAN GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO THE STUDENTS OF PRINCETON?
>> EXCELLENT QUESTION. AS MS. GRAVES MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL E-MAILS OUT WITH PRINCETON ISD ALREADY.
WE'RE WORKING TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM ON VARIOUS STEM INITIATIVES.
JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE WERE OUT WITH FORT WORTH ISD AT CAREER FAIRS TALKING ABOUT WHAT TRAINING PROGRAMS AND THINGS LOOK LIKE.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE TO INVEST IN.
WE'RE CURRENTLY EVALUATING THE TEXAS STATE CURRICULUM TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN DEVELOP A PROGRAM THAT MEETS ESSENTIAL LEARNING OUTCOMES THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
THIS IS AN ACTIVE PART OF ZIPLINE'S COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PURSUING ACTIVELY IN PRINCETON.
I HAD SHARED AN UPDATE WITH MS. GRAVES AFTER OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH PRINCETON ISD.
>> IN YOUR INVESTIGATION OF THE TEXAS TAKS, ARE YOU COLLABORATING WITH ACTUAL TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOM?
>> YEAH. NOT SPECIFICALLY WITH PRINCETON ISD RIGHT NOW ON THAT SIDE OF THINGS, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE DFW AREA THAT WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH TO BEST UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN FIT IN AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT BASICALLY FITS INTO THEIR ENVIRONMENTS.
>> IS ANYBODY ELSE FROM COUNSEL THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS COMPARABLE TO ROAD NOISE AT ALL.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THE NOISE ORDINANCE WITH RESPECT TO LOUD CARS.
YOU'VE GOT TO CATCH THEM IN THE ACT, AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO EVEN CONSIDER DOING THAT, DO WE? NO, WE DON'T.
I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN COMPARABLE TO THAT, BUT IF YOU HAVE THIS CONSTANT REGULAR NOISE, AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN CONSIDERED THAT IT IS CLOSE TO HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS, PEOPLE SHOPPING, WALKING AROUND.
THAT WAS A CONCERN OF MINE TO BEGIN WITH.
IT STILL HADN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.
JUST LIKE IT WAS SAID, THIS PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS IS BROKEN.
WHEN WE SEND SOMETHING TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IT'S SENT WITH A DIRECTIVE TO PASS IT, THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BUT PASS IT.
IT CAME HERE PRETTY MUCH WITH THE SAME INTENT, I'M SURE.
THAT THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING PLANS TO INSTALL IT.
I'M SURE THEY'VE ALREADY HIRED THE PEOPLE.
I'M SURE THEY'VE ALREADY ORDERED THE EQUIPMENT.
I DO OWN A DECIMAL METER, CALLED AN IPHONE, AND I'LL BE CHECKING IT TO SEE BECAUSE I LIVE CLOSE.
I'LL BE VERY CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ONCE THEY START OPERATING, IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO GRANT THEM THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS, COUNCIL GRAVES, YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD ASK THEM TO PUBLICLY STATE HERE WHY THEY PICKED PRINCETON.
THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES AROUND THE METROPLEX WHERE THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR A WHILE.
WHY DID THEY DECIDE TO PUT ONE HERE?
>> THE THIRD FASTEST GROWING THAT'S NOT ADEQUATE.
THEY WORK ON NUMBER. THEY DON'T MAKE HIP DECISIONS.
>> WOW. WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS.
BUT I WOULD REITERATE WHAT I SAID.
YOU HAVE SOMETHING MECHANICAL.
THERE CAN BE ACCIDENTS. THERE WILL BE.
THE WILDLIFE AND MIGRATION AND ALL THE THINGS UP IN THE AIR WOULD DO.
THEY HAVE THINGS ON WINDMILLS AND HOW THEY'VE AFFECTED THE ENVIRONMENT.
YOU GO TO WALMART, YOU CAN HEAR THEM. YOU CAN HEAR IT.
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I THINK IT'S MORE OF A MONEY THING FOR WALMART.DON'T THEY HAVE ENOUGH BUSINESS? I JUST DON'T SEE THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO PRINCETON NOW JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING TECHNOLOGY, IT'S ON THE MARKET, GOT TO HAVE IT.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS ABOUT IT THEN TO HAVE ALL THIS.
YOU START OUT WITH 20, GOES TO 40.
YOU GOT IT DONE, IT'S APPROVED.
IT'S GOT TO BE BIGGER THAN THE POLICE FORCE BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY CARRY TWO POUNDS, AND IT CAN CARRY EIGHT POUNDS.
WHEN EIGHT POUNDS IS NOT ENOUGH, YOU GOT TO BUILD A BIGGER ONE FOR 16 POUNDS.
I'M JUST SPECULATING HERE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FROM PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> THIS WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:33. SORRY.
>> MR. ESCOBAR, IF I MAY, IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
THE RECOMMENDATION OUGHT TO BE THAT THE HUB BE 300 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL.
THE ZONING DISTRICT, AND THAT EXHIBIT A BE UPDATED.
THE EXHIBIT THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKET SHOWS THE DRONE DELIVERY HUB, 297 FEET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THE UPDATED EXHIBIT I PROVIDED YOU TODAY IS 300 FEET AWAY.
THAT MOTION JUST NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIC, THAT IT'S 300 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND WITH AN UPDATE TO EXHIBIT A. I DO ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS JUST ONE COMMENT THAT IF ZIPLINE OR WALMART WANTS TO EXPAND THIS OPERATION BEYOND WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK IN FOR A NEW SUP.
>> JUST TO ECHO WHAT MR. FISHER JUST SAID, YOUR MOTION IF THIS IS ROUTE YOU GO, IT COULD BE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH ENFORCING THE 300 FOOT REQUIREMENT AND UPDATING THE SITE PLAN BASED ON THE SITE PLAN YOU RECEIVED TODAY.
>> THIS WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:33. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I KNOW CONTRARY TO WHAT MOST PUBLIC ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THINK, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.
THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WE HAVE IS OUR BIT PART OF IT. ON WHAT WE CAN DO.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 20250113 WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AMENDING THE 300 FOOT. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON?
THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. LAN, IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE THAT.
>> THAT WILL BRING US TO ITEM L2 ORDINANCE 2025 0113-01, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE 2025 011301 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON TEXANS, EXTENDING A MORATORIUM ON THE ACCEPTANCE, AUTHORIZATION, AND APPROVALS NECESSARY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, CONSISTING OF THE SUBDIVISION, PLANNING, CONSTRUCTION, RECONSTRUCTION, OR OTHER ALTERATION OR IMPROVEMENT THEREOF.
FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY CORPORATE LIMITS AND EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, ADOPTING WRITTEN FINDINGS, IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEMS REQUIRING THE NEED FOR EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM AND DESCRIBING THE REASONABLE PROGRESS MADE TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEMS, PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY, PURPOSE, ENACTMENT, DURATION, EXTENSION, LIMITED EXCEPTIONS AND WAIVERS, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND CONTAINING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THIS IS THE FIRST EXTENSION TO THE CITY'S BUILDING MORATORIUM THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED LAST SEPTEMBER.
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I'M GOING TO GIVE JUST A BRIEF BACKGROUND BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE EXTENSION ITSELF.AS WE ALL KNOW, PRINCETON'S FACING SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC AND CONTEMPORARY LAND USE CHALLENGES AND UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH, THAT SOME OF OUR REGULATIONS AND PLANS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, ETC, ARE NOT ADEQUATELY DESIGNED TO ADDRESS.
WHAT'S BEING SAID BACK ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2024, AFTER COMPLYING WITH ALL PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 212 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY ADOPTED A BUILDING MORATORIUM, AND THIS BUILDING MORATORIUM IS APPLICABLE TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.
NOT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, JUST RESIDENTIAL IN THE CITY'S CORPORATE LIMITS AND ETJ, SUBJECT TO VALID EXCEPTIONS AND WAIVERS AS PROVIDED UNDER STATE LAW.
ONCE AGAIN, THE PURPOSE IS TO ALLOW THE CITY TO ADDRESS AND REVIEW THE CITY'S SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ZONING ORDINANCE AND OTHER ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS TO ADEQUATELY PLAN, PREPARE, AND PROVIDE FOR ORDERLY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.
THE CITY'S MORATORIUM, WHICH IS STILL IN EFFECT, WAS JUSTIFIED BASED ON A SHORTAGE OF ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES, SUCH WATER, WASTEWATER, AND ROADWAY, AS DEFINED BY SECTION 212, 131 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND DUE TO A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES SUCH AS POLICE IN THIS INSTANCE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 212, 1351 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THIS MORATORIUM IS SET TO EXPIRE PER STATE LAW, 120 DAYS POST ADOPTION, MEANING THE DEADLINE OF JANUARY 21ST, 2025, UNLESS EXTENDED AS PERMITTED UNDER APPLICABLE LAW.
CHAPTER 212, THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE PROVIDES THAT A MORATORIUM MAY BE EXTENDED AFTER NOTICING AND HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTING CERTAIN WRITTEN FINDINGS AND DETERMINATIONS.
WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE IN MORE DETAIL.
THE ORDINANCE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, ORDINANCE 2025 1-13-01 COMPLIES WITH THE PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS UNDER STATE LAW, NAMELY THE NOTICE AND PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS.
THE NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PRINCETON HERALD, THE CITY'S OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER ON DECEMBER 26TH, 2024, WHICH IS WITHIN THE TIME PROVIDED UNDER STATE LAW.
THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING HERE THIS EVENING.
CERTAIN WRITTEN FINDINGS HAVE TO BE FOUND IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, AND THOSE ARE ADDRESSED IN THE ORDINANCE.
ONE, IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEMS, REQUIRING THE NEED.
ONCE AGAIN, THOSE BEING A SHORTAGE OF ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES, SO WATER, WASTEWATER, AND ROADWAY, AND A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES POLICE.
TWO, YOU HAVE TO DESCRIBE THE REASONABLE PROGRESS MADE TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEMS, WHICH WILL ADDRESS ON FUTURE SLIDES, AND THEN SPECIFY THE DEFINITE DURATION OF THE RENEWAL PERIOD.
IN THIS INSTANCE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A RENEWAL PERIOD OF 150 DAYS FROM TODAY, WHICH PUTS IT, I BELIEVE, JUNE 12TH, 2025.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. TOMMY MAPP TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE PROBLEMS STILL REQUIRING THE NEED OF THE MORATORIUM AND SOME OF THE REASONABLE PROGRESS MADE TO ADDRESS THE CITY'S SHORTAGE OF ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, TOMMY, MAPP, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
SINCE THE ISSUANCE OF THE MORATORIUM, WE HAVE BEEN MOVING VERY RAPIDLY THROUGH OUR WATER AND UTILITY WATER WASTE ROADWAY PLANS AND UPDATING THOSE.
WE'VE ENGAGED OUR ENGINEERS TO UPDATE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND IMPACT FEE STUDY, AS WELL AS OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN.
WE ARE WORKING THROUGH OUR MOBILITY AND SAFETY PLAN AS WELL TO IDENTIFY ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT WILL ALLEVIATE THE STRESS IN THE TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND TOWN TO REALLY HELP BOLSTER, THE THOROUGHFARES IN TOWN AND EXPEDITE PEOPLE MOVING TO AND FROM SAFELY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ASPECTS OF THAT AS WELL.
WE ARE ALSO MOVING VERY RAPIDLY ON ONE OF OUR PROJECTS.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED THIS FALL.
IT'S A PUMP STATION CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT.
WE'RE IMPROVING THE PUMPING CAPABILITIES OF ONE OF OUR EXISTING PUMP STATIONS.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON THE DESIGN FOR A NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK TO BE 3 MILLION GALLONS THAT WILL BE NORTH OF TOWN, JUST NORTH OF THE WHITE WING SUBDEVELOPMENT.
BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AS FAR AS THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE.
THOSE PLANS ARE, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE IN THE WORKS.
WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE THEM TURNED AROUND LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER.
THAT WAS THE NEED FOR THE 150 DAY PUSH TO EXTEND
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THAT MORATORIUM SO THAT WE CAN WRAP THOSE PLANS UP AND REALLY WORK WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO.>> I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND MR. MASHBURN BECAUSE AS EVERYONE KNOWS ON FACEBOOK, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE COUNTY ROADS, AND I KNOW THAT EUGENE HARRIS AND I CAME TO MR. MASHBURN AND TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THAT YOU GUYS WORKED COLLABORATIVELY TO GET THE COUNTY TO DO SOME OF THOSE REPAIRS.
I KNOW THAT'S OUTSIDE OF PRINCETON, AND I KNOW THAT TOOK A LOT OF WORK TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ROADS ARE UTILIZED HEAVILY BY PRINCETON RESIDENTS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS AWARE THAT THAT IS SOME WORK THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING TO HELP IMPROVE SOME OF THESE THINGS AS WELL, OUTSIDE OF THIS PLAN THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING.
>> THANK YOU. WE MEET REGULARLY WITH THE COUNTY AND TECH STAT, AS WELL AS THE ISD TO MAKE SURE THAT EXPECTED ROADWAY IMPACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO HELP SHARE DATA SO THAT WE'RE AWARE OF HOW TRAFFIC IS MOVING INTO AND OUT OF TOWN SO THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE THOSE ROADWAY PROJECTS AND REALLY PUT THAT ON THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. ANYBODY ELSE.
>> I KNOW THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION OF 150 DAYS.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO BEYOND THAT? WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT WE CAN REQUEST THE MORATORIUM?
>> SURE. YOU CAN GO FURTHER THAN THAT.
I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WAS TO DO 150 DAYS.
LET ME BACK UP. ON INITIAL ADOPTION OF A MORATORIUM, STATE LAW SAYS, IT HAS TO BE 120 DAYS.
BUT THEREAFTER, IT'S JUST A DEFINITE DURATION.
CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING 150 DAYS BECAUSE WE THINK THAT WE'LL LINE UP WITH SOME OF US FINALIZING SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT TOMMY JUST MENTIONED IN ORDER TO SEE IF A FURTHER EXTENSION IS NEEDED, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THAT EXTENSION WILL LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF DAYS, JUST TO GIVE US A BETTER FORECAST OF WHETHER THE PROBLEMS STILL EXIST AND WE CAN BACK INTO THAT DATE BETTER.
>> THESE ARE SOME EXTENSIVE PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ROADS AND EVERYTHING.
TOMMY, I KNOW YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS LIMITED RESOURCES.
IS THE 150 DAYS TRULY SOMETHING YOUR DEPARTMENT CAN DO WITHOUT FEELING OVERLY RUSHED, AND YOU CAN, IN FACT, GET IT, BECAUSE I'D RATHER IT BE DONE RIGHT THAN RUSHED AND NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR US.
>> A POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS IN 150 DAYS.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS COME UP WITH A PLAN TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DAYS, WE'VE ENGAGED ANOTHER COMPANY CALLED ROADWAY ASSET SOLUTIONS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN.
WE'RE BRINGING THEM TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO HAVE THEIR CONTRACT APPROVED FOR A FULL CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF ALL OF OUR ROADWAYS, WHICH WILL PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECTS AND ALLOCATE THE FUNDS SO THAT AS REMOVING THE BIAS FROM IT, IT'S DONE BY SENSORS, SCIENTIFIC INSTRUMENTS, AI, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO GENERATE A LIFECYCLE MODEL FOR OUR EXISTING ROADWAYS AS THEY STAND TODAY.
THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT DATA TO TELL US WHAT PROJECTS WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE DUE TO THE TRAFFIC LOADING, THINGS LIKE THAT, PROBABILITY OF FAILURE OF THE ROADWAYS AND RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE.
THE BUDGET FOR THOSE WILL BE 100% TRANSPARENT, BUT IT'S GOING TO HELP US PRIORITIZE THESE PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HITTING THOSE BIG WINDS FOR THE CITY.
A HUNDRED AND FIFTY DAYS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
>> THAT'S SUFFICIENT YOU'RE NOT FEELING LIKE IT'S CRUNCHED TIME.
>> THAT IS A PRETTY CONDENSED TIMELINE.
BUT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN.
WELL, THAT'S THE NUMBERS THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN US THAT WE CAN'T HIT THAT DEADLINE.
>> YOU WERE GIVEN THOSE NUMBERS?
>> WELL, AND OUR ENGINEERS, THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE CAME UP WITH.
>> IS THERE A NUMBER THAT KNOWING YOUR RESOURCES AND WHAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE? IS THERE A NUMBER THAT YOU FEEL IS MORE EFFECTIVE?
>> TO FINALIZE THE PLAN FOR WATER WASTEWATER AND ROADWAYS.
I THINK WE CAN GET THAT DONE IN 150 DAYS.
>> THIS IS ONE PART OF WHY WE NEED THE MORATORIUM.
WE STILL HAVE OTHER ASPECTS OF IMPROVING OUR POLICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AS WELL.
MY QUESTION IS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT ROAD ROADWAYS.
ONCE THIS ROADWAY ASSET SERVICES, ONCE WE GRANT THEIR CONTRACT, REALISTICALLY, HOW LONG DID IT TAKE FROM THE TIME THAT THEY DO THEIR ASSESSMENT TO THE TIME WE START WORKING AND ACTUALLY IMPROVING THE ROADS HERE.
>> WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT STUDY BACK.
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WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR MOBILITY AND SAFETY STUDY BACK. WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE.WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY SUMMERTIME BEFORE WE'RE REALLY TARGETING SOME MAJOR BROADWAY PROJECTS.
WE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE OF THAT ARE DESIGNED THAT ARE GOING TO BE QUICK WINS FOR US.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THOSE FIRST.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ONE OF THEM NOW WITH TEXTO, WAITING ON PERMITS, THINGS LIKE THAT PERMIT REVIEW.
AS SOON AS WE GET THAT BACK THAT PROJECT'S GOING TO BID.
THE FUNDING'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED. IT'S READY TO BUILD.
THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY AND WORK'S GOING TO CONTINUE WHILE THESE PLANS ARE BEING FORMED.
BUT TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND TO REALLY LOOK AT, WE'RE ANNEXING PROPERTIES OR, PROPERTY COMES TO THE CITY, WE GAIN ROADWAYS FROM THE COUNTY THAT AREN'T UP TO OUR STANDARDS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL FUTURE LAND USES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO SEE WHERE THOSE ROADWAYS ARE GOING TO BE, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FIT INTO OUR PLANS.
IT'S A VERY IN DEPTH PROCESS, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO SOME REPAIRS AS NECESSARY IN THE MEANTIME?
>> YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE SOME PLANS THAT ARE ALREADY DESIGNED AND READY TO BUILD.
WE'RE JUST WAITING ON SOME PERMIT REVIEWS.
ONCE WE GET THOSE BACK, WE'LL BE WORKING THOSE THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS AND PUTTING THOSE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER ROADWAYS AND AROUND TOWN THAT COLLIN COUNTY AND TEXTA ARE WORKING ON AS WELL.
IT'LL BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, BUT YES, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
>> MR. MAPP. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND.
I KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING INTO TORNADO SEASON.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND 180 DAYS.
BUT IF IT'S DONE IN 150 DAYS AND YOU COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL, THAT'LL BE FINE, BUT I THINK GIVING YOURSELF SOME EXTRA TIME WOULD BE PRUDENT.
>> YES, IF THE COUNCIL WISHES, SO.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EITHER MASHBURN OR GRANT, WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF KEEPING THE MORE TERM GOING? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER 150 DAYS.
I'M NOT AGAINST IT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS, SO IF WE'RE DOING ANOTHER 150 180 DAYS TO DO THIS.
HOW DID THAT POTENTIALLY AFFECT COMMERCIALS THAT MIGHT BE COMING THAT ARE MEASURING OUR GROWTH? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE STILL HAVE HOW MANY HOMES ARE STILL BEING BUILT? IT IS STILL QUITE A FEW, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY STOP MUCH, BUT WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF THIS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO QUITE A BIT.
>> SURE. WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY A TENDER BALANCE.
WE DO HAVE A HIGH RELIANCE ON AVALARA TAX, WHICH IS YOUR PROPERTY VALUES.
THIS MORATORIUM DOES NOT AFFECT COMMERCIAL, BUT I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS COMMERCIAL ANTICIPATING OUR GROWTH RATE TO CONTINUE AT THE THIRD FASTEST GROWING IN THE NATION.
THAT COULD IMPACT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, IS WE'RE LACKING JUST SOME VERY BASIC AMENITIES IN PRINCETON, AND THOSE ARE GOING TO COME WITH A 40,000 PERSON CITY.
I THINK WE START WITH THAT BASELINE, THEN WE BUILD UP FROM THERE, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT.
WE TALKED ABOUT, HEY, WOULDN'T IT BE NICE TO HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ONE DAY OR A MEDICAL VILLAGE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? ALL OF THAT IS ON THE TIMELINE.
THAT WE CONTINUE THE GROWTH IN A SENSIBLE WAY, WHERE WE HAVE THE RIGHT STANDARDS.
WE HAVE THE PROPER PLAN FOR ROADS AND THOROUGHFARES.
IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S UNDER THE GROUND AS WELL, SO OUR UTILITIES, WHICH IS ANOTHER PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
I THINK SIX MONTHS WOULD GIVE US THAT TIME TO GIVE US A HEAD START WHILE STILL NOT TRUNCATING GROWTH ENTIRELY, AND THEN WE CAN GROW A LITTLE BIT SENSIBLY.
BUT WE'RE WELL AWARE WE'RE PRIORITIZING PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ADDING SEVEN NEW OFFICERS AS WE SPEAK, THREE NEW FIREFIGHTERS.
THEN NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR A GRANT TO TRY AND ADD A FEW MORE BODIES IN THAT REALM.
I THINK THE RESIDENTS WILL START SEEING SOME THINGS.
NOW, ROAD CONSTRUCTION WILL BE FRUSTRATING IN THAT TIME FRAME.
THERE'S NO DOUBT. IT'S LIKE, WE'LL FIX OUR ROADS, AND THEN NOW THEY'RE SHUT DOWN.
BUT WE'RE WORKING ON ALL OF IT TOGETHER, BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE IT FOREVER.
SOME CITIES HAVE DONE THIS FOR YEARS.
WE'RE WORKING REAL FAST. I THINK SIX MONTHS WILL GIVE US A GOOD HEAD START.
QUESTION. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
YOU HAVE 2.5 INSPECTORS IN DEVELOPMENT, ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE, 2.5 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ARE WE ALSO LOOKING AT ADDING STAFF TO DEVELOPMENTS AND PUBLIC WORKS TO ENSURE THAT AS WE'RE GROWING, THAT THEY TOO ARE GROWING WITH THEIR ABILITY TO SUPPORT ALL THAT EXTRA WORKLOAD THAT'S COMING ONTO THEM?
>> YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY DEPARTMENT, ACTUALLY.
IT'S NOT JUST PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S COMMUNITY SERVICES.
IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT, IT'S IT.
I CAME FROM A CITY ROUGHLY THE SAME POPULATION THAT HAD HALF THE STAFF OR TWO TIMES THE STAFF THAT WE HAD TODAY.
WE'RE REALLY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL IN A LOT OF RESPECTS, BUT WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO YOU ALL AT THE STRATEGIC RETREAT ON JUST PRIORITIES,
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AND YOU TELL US WHERE YOU WANT THE MONEY TO GO.>> THEY'RE THE BACKBONE RIGHT NOW TO OUR GROWTH.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR DEPARTMENT ISN'T GETTING MISSED.
>> I KNOW THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
I KNOW YOU WORKED CLOSELY WITH MR. MAPP AND HIS TEAM, AND THE HUNDRED AND COUNCIL MEMBER, KARLYN GRAVES, SUGGESTED THE 180.
DO YOU THINK IT'S SAFE JUST TO GO WITH THE 150 BASED ON YOUR NOT WANTING TO TRUNCATE OUR GROUP?
>> YEAH. I WOULD SAY WHATEVER RUNWAY YOU CAN GIVE US WILL TAKE.
WE'D LOVE 180. IF YOU SAY 150, WE'LL MAKE THAT WORK TOO.
>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, I ALSO AGREE IN THE 180, BECAUSE WITH THE LIMITED PEOPLE TO BE DOING THESE INSPECTIONS AND ALL OF THIS GROWTH, I DON'T WANT THEM RUSHING TO GET THINGS DONE AS WELL TO BE ABLE TO BUILD UP ALL OF THESE HOUSES JUST TO GET ALL THIS COMMERCIAL IN.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY, SO WE DON'T CONTINUE TO HAVE PROBLEMS THERE.
>> I'M GOING TO OPEN UP TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THEY REALLY GOT ONE MORE SLIDE AND THEN YOU HAVE.
>> BEFORE YOU DO THAT. JUST MOVING ON.
THE SECOND PART OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE MORATORIUM IS A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES, POLICE IN THIS INSTANCE.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR THOSE PERSONNEL.
I HAVE CHIEF WATERS HERE TO PRESENT ON SOME OF THE REASONABLE PROGRESS MADE TO DATE BY THE CITY.
ONCE AGAIN, JUST LIKE AS APPLICABLE IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, IT'S THE REASONABLE PROGRESS MADE BY THE CITY SINCE ADOPTION OF THE MORATORIUM BACK IN SEPTEMBER. TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF WATERS.
>> MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS 180 DAYS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED POLICE OFFICERS AND ALL THAT.
ONE APPROACH THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO LOOK AT IT FROM IS MORE OF AN INTELLIGENCE LED POLICING APPROACH.
BY THIS LAST RPA GRANT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO WORK WITH MR. IRVINE AND MS. COOK AND TRYING TO GET SOME OF THE LICENSE PLATE READERS IN AND TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE CAMERAS IN AND ALL THIS STUFF.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S UPSET ABOUT THE DRONES AND CAMERAS AND ALL THAT, BUT THAT DOES HELP POLICE OFFICERS OUT A LITTLE BIT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR SUSPECTS AND ALL THIS STUFF.
WE'RE TRYING TO, OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS OF THE POLICE OFFICERS.
ALSO ANOTHER THING MS. STEPHANIE WEST IS ACTUALLY LOOKING INTO.
WHAT THAT DOES IS, IF WE APPLY FOR IT, FROM WHAT I'M BEING TOLD TODAY, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF IT.
BUT IF WE APPLY FOR IT, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE FIRST YEAR, IT'LL COVER THREE QUARTERS OF THE OFFICER SALARY.
IF I'M ABLE TO PAY OR APPLY FOR 10 OFFICERS, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COVER 10 OFFICERS, THREE QUARTERS OF THEIR SALARY IN THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL ACTUALLY APPLY FOR THAT.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ASPECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO RIGHT NOW.
OF COURSE, OURS IS GOING TO BE PERSONNEL NEEDS.
THAT'S IMPORTANT 150 DAYS, 180 DAYS, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE GOT TO LOOK FOR THAT BAND AID IN THE MEANTIME.
THAT BAND AID IS GOING TO COME FROM SOME OF THAT ARPA STUFF TO WHERE WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE HAVE EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT'S COMING IN.
THEN SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO BE THROUGH THE GRANTS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ONE MORE THING THAT WE ARE RECENTLY UNDERTAKING IS WE ARE LOOKING INTO A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC ANALYSIS FOR THE PD AS WELL.
NOT JUST ONE YEAR, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, WHERE WE NEED TO BE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND SEE WHERE WE NEED TO BE GOING FORWARD.
WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS JUST POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREETS.
FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A NEW DISPATCH CENTER.
WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL CIVILIAN STAFF.
I ONLY HAD THREE CIVILIAN STAFF WITH INSIDE THE PD HANDLING A LOT OF THESE CALLS AND CALLS FOR SERVICE AND WALK INS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC ANALYSIS THAT'S GOING TO BE BASED OFF INTELLIGENCE LED POLICING, NOT JUST THROWING BODIES AT IT.
>> THESE GROWTH PROJECTIONS AND EVERYTHING, ARE THEY INCLUDING THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH COLLIN COUNTY TO SUPPORT THE ETJ AREAS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND SUPPORTS?
ARE THEY INCLUDING? A LOT OF THESE AGREEMENTS.
YOU CAN RUN THE ANALYSIS FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS.
IT'S GOING TO BE 2000 OFFICERS, WHICH THAT'S ONE OF THE EASIEST WAY TO GO TO WHENEVER YOU'RE IN A GROWING CITY.
ANOTHER WAY IS THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT, A VIEW THAT COMES FROM ALL THE CITY MANAGERS THAT GET TOGETHER AS YOU'VE HEARD OF THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEF BEST PRACTICES PROGRAM.
ALL THE CHIEFS GET TOGETHER AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
WE COME UP WITH ONE WAY, AND THEN ALL THE CITY MANAGERS COME OVER HERE AND THEY COME UP,
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AND IT'S LIKE A BIG RIVALRY. IT'S PRETTY COOL.BUT CITY MANAGERS, THEY COME UP WITH ALL THESE STRATEGIC PLANS AS FAR AS HOW MANY CALLS FOR SERVICE, HOW MUCH DOWNTIME, HOW MANY OFFICERS IN THE STREET, AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.
THEN A LOT OF TIMES, THEY WILL MEET IN THE MIDDLE, IS WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO PREDICT THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, LOOKING AT THAT CITY MANAGER FORM THAT'S OUT THERE.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO PREDICT ALL THAT.
THE ONLY THING YOU CAN REALLY PREDICT IS OUR GROWING RATIO, WHICH IS ANYWHERE 26-32% A YEAR OFF OF WHAT OUR BASE POPULATION IS RIGHT NOW.
>> BUT WE CAN AT LEAST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATE.
WE'RE APPROVING THINGS, SO WE KNOW WHEN THERE'S HOUSING, WE KNOW THE NUMBERS OF HOUSES THAT ARE GOING INTO THE ETJ.
WE ABLE TO LIKE, TAKE A HYPOTHETICAL ESTIMATION.
>> YOU DEFINITELY CAN. A LOT OF IT IS 100%.
A LOT OF IT IS GOING TO BE THE ESTIMATION AND ALL THIS STUFF, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY PREDICT ON WHEN THEY'RE FINISHING THOSE HOUSES.
YOU CAN'T REALLY PREDICT, LIKE, AS FAR AS THE WEATHER IS GOING TO PUSH IT OUT A MONTH OR TWO OR THREE OR ANYTHING ON THE, LIKE, YOU CAN'T REALLY PREDICT.
THE ROADWAYS OR I'M SORRY, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE AROUND THOSE HOUSES IS GOING TO BE DARKER AT NIGHT.
IS IT GOING TO PRODUCE MORE THEFT? IT'S HARD TO PREDICT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT YES, YOU CAN PREDICT, AS FAR AS THE POPULATION, THE NUMBER OF HOUSES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
YES. ONE THING THIS FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN DOES, IS IT TAKES A LOT OF THOSE PREDICTIONS IN PLACE FOR YOU.
BUT IT ALSO IT TAKES A FORM OF THE CITY MANAGER FORM OF HOW YOU TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT RATIO, AND THEN THE POLICE CHIEFS FORM OF FIGURING OUT THAT RATIO, AND IT MARRIES EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
>> BY YOUR OWN COUNSEL. EVERYBODY GOOD. GRANT.
>> MR. MAYOR, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM ME, IF YOU COULD PLEASE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANNOUNCE THE TIME AND ALLOW ALL THOSE INTERESTED PARTIES THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
>> IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, GRANT? IT IS A 59, AND WE OPEN UP A PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I KNOW YOU MAXINE 914 BLUEBO STREET, PRINCETON.
THE MORATORIUM DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED.
MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN 180 DAYS.
THINK ABOUT TONIGHT IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, HOW MANY ACRES DID YOU APPROVE FOR BASICALLY HOUSES TO BE STARTING TO BUILD? HOW MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE IN THE PIPELINE THAT HAVEN'T COME UP TO PLANNING AND ZONING YET, THAT HAVEN'T COME TO YOU YET.
A HUNDRED AND TWENTY DAYS WASN'T ENOUGH.
IS 180 DAYS ENOUGH? NO. OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T THERE.
I APPRECIATE YOU WORKED ON THE POTHOLES IN THE BACK.
THAT'S GREAT. BUT THERE'S MORE.
>> BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'D RATHER SIT IN 380 FOR AN HOUR THAN GET MY ALIGNMENT DAMAGE GOING DOWN THE BACK ROADS.
I THINK MORE THAN 180 DAYS NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
I THINK ALSO PART OF THE CONSIDERATION NEEDS TO BE HOW MANY OTHER PROJECTS ARE SITTING IN THE PIPELINE, WAITING TO COME TO PLANNING AND ZONING, WAITING TO COME TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> TERESA MCGUINNESS AND ARCADIA FARMS. I THINK MAXINE PRETTY MUCH, HAD IT GREAT.
THE MORATORIUM HAS NO MEANING BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF ALREADY COMING THROUGH, AND SO IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
YOU COULD TALK ABOUT IT UNTIL EVERYBODY'S BLUE, BUT UNTIL YOU SAY WE'RE STOPPING, WE'RE STOPPING, 1,000 HOUSES JUST WENT THROUGH TODAY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
WHEN YOU PUT A MORATORIUM, YOU SAY, LET'S STOP.
WELL, LET'S STOP, AND DON'T PUT ANY, EXCEPT FOR THIS, EXCEPT FOR THAT.
WELL, IF YOU MENTIONED IT FIVE YEARS AGO, THEN IT'S IN.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A MORATORIUM, THEN DO IT.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO STOP A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING TILL EVERYTHING CATCHES UP, THEN DO IT.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST THING IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT IT HASN'T GOTTEN DONE, BECAUSE VACCINE PUT IT SENATE.
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HOW MUCH MORE STUFF IS GOING TO COME THROUGH.THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE NO STOP.
UNLESS YOU GUYS SAY THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY HAVE PERMITS OR BATTERY, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THIS IS DONE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF THEY SPENT ALL THAT MONEY AND THEY BOUGHT THE LAND, AND THEY DID ALL THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD ONTO IT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO STILL COME BACK.
IF YOU SAY, NO, WE NEED TO STOP.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE MY THINKING ON THAT IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A MORATORIUM, REALLY DO IT, DON'T JUST TALK ABOUT IT.
THE SECOND THING IS, AS FAR AS BIG ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BY THE WAY, YOU ARE AWESOME. WE LOVE YOU.
BUT WE ALREADY KNOW. WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT IN ADVANCE.
WELL, WE JUST APPROVED 1,000 HOUSES.
WELL, I'VE GOT MY INFORMATION FROM THE INTERNATIONAL CHIEF OF POLICE, WHERE, 2.5 OFFICERS 1,000 IS ACTUALLY IT'S A LOW NUMBER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GO BY.
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE NEED 2.5 MORE OFFICERS, AND WE KNOW IT WELL IN ADVANCE.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE, COORDINATED A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE DON'T APPROVE THESE UNTIL YOU CAN APPROVE THE OFFICERS TO GO WITH THIS.
DON'T APPROVE THIS UNLESS YOU CAN GET EVERYTHING ALONG WITH IT.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
I'M ASKING FLAT OUT, CAN YOU STOP THE BUILDING NOW? CAN YOU PAUSE IT NOW OR YOU'RE GOING TO LET EVERYTHING GO THROUGH? THAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED FOREVER AND HOW MANY YEARS THAT THEY PUT IN A PLAN?
>> MR. LOWRY. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN THE LIMITS OF THE MORATORIUM AND WHAT THE LEGAL IMPACT WOULD BE? MY RECALL IS THAT IT DID NOT INCLUDE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED BEFORE.
I'M WONDERING IF THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO EXPLAIN THE LIMITS OF IT AND THEN WHY THERE IS STILL BUILDING GOING ON?
>> SURE. MOST CERTAINLY, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
THE MORATORIUM PER STATE LAW CAN ONLY IMPACT IN EFFECT NEW DEVELOPMENT, SO ANYTHING THAT'S VESTED OR ENTITLED, THERE'S NOTHING THIS MORATORIUM CAN DO TO IMPACT THAT.
THAT'S A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT.
THAT'S NOT A CITY OF PRINCETON THING.
THAT'S A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT.
>> HAS IT BEEN WHAT'S THE TERM I WANT TO SAY? HAVE YOU TRIED? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT A LOT OF THE STATE IS, YOU DO IT AND ONE OF THE THE BASIC THINGS IS, SO A HOME RULE INSTEAD OF ASKING PERMISSION, WE DO IT AND WAIT UNTIL SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING? I KNOW THAT'S NOT IT, BUT THERE'S THINGS ARE BASIC AND BROAD.
NOW, YOU COULD SAY, THAT THE STATE SAYS, WE CAN'T DO THAT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.
I BELIEVE MAYBE YOU DIDN'T LOOK INTO IT DEEP ENOUGH.
I BELIEVE MAYBE YOU NEED TO WORK HARDER AT IT AND FIGURE OUT A WAY.
BUT THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT. YOU JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT LEGALLY, YOU JUST HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
I'M TELLING YOU, IF YOU GO TO THE STATE, AND IF THERE'S ANY HALFWAY PEOPLE WITH HALF A COMMON SENSE AND SAY, WELL, LOOK AT PRINCETON.
YOU CAN GET IT DONE, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT THE BARK AND EFFORT INTO IT, AND YOU GOT TO TRY.
BUT IF YOU JUST SAY, WELL, THE STATE LAW SAYS THIS, THIS IS WHAT'S ON PAPER, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO EVEN QUESTION IT, THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S WITH EVERYTHING. YOU NEED TO QUESTION IT, YOU NEED TO FIGHT FOR IT, OR YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING TO GET DONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE READ, LIKE IN DEPTH, LIKE THE CONTRACTS AND STUFF THAT ARE COMING THROUGH HERE.
BUT SOMETHING THAT GRANT HAS BEEN DOING THAT HASN'T REALLY BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, IS HE IS PUTTING HARD DEADLINES ON PEOPLE GOING FORWARD.
CONTRACTS THAT PASSED THROUGH HIS OFFICE ARE COMING OUT WITH.
YOU WILL START BUILDING BY THIS TIME, YOU WILL BE DONE BY THIS TIME.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE IS DOING FOR US THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
FORTUNATELY, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, BUT IT IS SOMETHING HE IS PUTTING FORTH IN THE STUFF FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN THAT HAS COME ACROSS FROM HIS OFFICES SO FAR.
>> THANK YOU. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DEFEND HIM THOUGH I WASN'T [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M JUST SAYING THAT THIS IS LOWRY.
I'D LIKE TO STAY ON TOPIC. WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE OFF TOPIC.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THE CITY AND ANY RECOMMENDATION I GIVE, WE'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.
ANYTHING WE DO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IS, WELL THOUGHT OUT AND JUSTIFIED.
I'M NOT GOING TO ADDRESS YOU. YOUR COMMENTS TO GO TO.
NOW, YOU HAVE YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL, I UNDERSTAND.
IS HOW FAST YOU'RE GOING TO FIGHT FOR IT.
THAT'S WHAT EVERY LAW IS. WHAT IS IT FIGHT FOR IT.
TEXAS HAS ITS LAWS, HAS THIS, HAS THAT.
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YOU HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THE WAYS AROUND IT, YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD.IF YOU JUST TAKE SOMETHING, BECAUSE IT SAYS, WELL, TEXAS LAW SAYS, WE CAN'T DO THIS.
WELL, I GUARANTEE YOU, IF YOU LOOK DEEP ENOUGH INTO IT, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO GET IT DONE.
BUT IF YOU DON'T LOOK HARD ENOUGH, YOU DON'T TRY HARD ENOUGH, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
MAYBE IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE ONE ATTORNEY LOOKING INTO IT.
MAYBE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A FEW. MAYBE IT'S GOING TO TAKE, EVERYBODY, LET'S GO BACK AND LOOK, SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. THERE'S SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.
BUT JUST TO SAY THAT WELL, TEXAS LAW SAYS THIS, WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE LAW IS.
THE LAW IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO QUESTION.
YOU JUST CAN'T CLOSE YOUR EYES AND SAY, THIS IS THE LAW.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND KEEP DOING IT.
DON'T LIE. DON'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO A MORATORIUM.
IT DOESN'T MEAN NOTHING. IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT, DON'T DO IT.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO FIGHT FOR IT, FIGHT FOR IT.
GET WITH THE LAWYERS. GET WITH THE STATE, WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE. IT'S NOT A BAD REQUEST.
WE ARE IN THE BIND. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW IT HAPPEN OR WHY IT HAPPENED, BUT WE'RE THERE, AND WE NEED HELP.
IF WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE STATE FOR THE STATE TO SAY, CAN WE DO THIS? WE NEED THIS HAPPEN.
BUT JUST LAYING DOWN IS NOT GOING TO DO IT.
ANYWAY, YES, I DO AGREE WITH THE MORATORIUM IF IT TURNS INTO ONE, AND WE STOP BUILDING.
WE NEED TO STOP BUILDING AND LET CATCH UP HAPPEN.
DON'T JUST SAY YOU'RE GOING TO STOP BUILDING.
DON'T JUST SAY YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE THIS MORATORIUM.
THIS DOESN'T MATTER FOR SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, FIVE YEARS.
SOME OF THOSE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED HAVE BEEN YEARS IN THE WORKS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER UNTIL IT HAPPENS.
ANYWAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS TAKE IT HEART BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT CAN HAPPEN.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE COULD JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN IF YOU WORK HARD ENOUGH.
>> IS ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> KEN SELIGMAN, 512 BUCKEYE AVENUE.
ONE THING BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
I KNOW MR. MAPP WAS TALKING ABOUT THROUGH ROADS TO THE MAIN ROADS.
I'VE HEARD LOTS OF QUESTIONS CONSTANTLY ABOUT SYNCHRONIZING THE LIGHTS ON 380.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE LOOKED INTO THAT, BUT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING FOR SOME TIME.
THAT WOULD HELP A LOT JUST WITH THE ROADWAYS THAT WE HAVE.
IF SOMEONE COULD PLEASE LOOK INTO THAT, THAT'D BE NICE.
WHEN TRAFFIC IS GOING THAT WAY, THEY OUGHT TO BE SYNCHRONIZED FOR GOING THAT WAY.
WHEN THEY'RE COMING HOME, THEY OUGHT TO BE SERVING THE PEOPLE COMING HOME. THAT OUGHT TO BE PRETTY SIMPLE.
PUBLIC SAFETY. I'VE GOT RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE LAWSUIT BY CHIEF MOYLE AGAINST THE CITY.
CHIEF MOYLE WAS HIRED IN 2019, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL BIG THINGS.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT, I'D BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU A COPY.
ANYONE ON ARCHIVE THAT WANTS TO SEE IT, LET ME KNOW.
CHIEF WATERS HAS ADDRESSED MANY OF THE SHORTCOMINGS AS FAR AS TRAINING AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, LOTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE DEPARTMENT MS. TIFFANY, ALL THE OFFICERS.
THANK YOU. YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
BUT THEY ALSO KNEW IN 2019 THAT WE WERE UNDERSTAFFED.
THIS DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T JUST COME UP ON US.
I'VE LEARNED FROM SOME BANKERS THAT HAD BEEN HERE A WHILE.
THEY SAID THAT SOME OF THESE LARGE TRACKS WERE ACTUALLY BOUGHT IN 2008, THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO START HAPPENING IN THE GREAT RECESSION SHUT IT DOWN.
THIS IDEA THAT, WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING IS EITHER THEY WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION OR THEY'RE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WE KNEW IT WAS COMING. WE KNEW IT WAS COMING IN 2019 WHEN THEY HIRED CHIEF MOYLE TO TRY TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE POLICING.
NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IN 2025.
>> CAN WE STICK AT THE POINT, PLEASE?
>> YEAH. THE POINT IS JUST LIKE TERESA SAID, WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED.
I'VE HEARD THAT THE WAY THAT THE MORATORIUM WAS WRITTEN,
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THAT IT WAS NOT WRITTEN JUST FOR APPROVED PROJECTS OR APPROVED AGREEMENTS, BUT FOR APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE MORATORIUM. IS THAT TRUE?>> YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AFTER.
>> SOMEONE, PLEASE CLARIFY THAT.
WAS THE MORATORIUM WRITTEN TO EXEMPT APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED DID NOT HAVE APPROVALS BEFORE THE MORATORIUM WAS EXEMPTED.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD. THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD AT SEVERAL MEETINGS.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT'S DEFINITELY, LIKE TERESA SAID.
BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN THOUSANDS OF HOUSES APPROVED SINCE YOU GUYS ENACTED THAT, A THOUSAND TODAY.
IF EITHER IT'S SERIOUS OR IT'S NOT.
RIGHT NOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
DID WE EXEMPT APPLICATIONS? BECAUSE IF WE DID, THAT'S NOT REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
THE STATE STATUTE IS VERY SIMPLE. A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS.
GO READ IT. IT DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT EXEMPTING APPLICATIONS.
>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT 9:13.
WE WILL MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
>> MR. MAYOR WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT, SORRY.
>> YOUR HONOR, THIS EVENING, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS ACTUALLY DECIDE NOT WHETHER HOW WE'RE CONDUCTING THE MORATORIUM, BUT WHETHER TO EXTEND IT OR NOT.
THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STAFF WAS 150 DAYS, BUT THEN IT'S ALSO BEEN BROUGHT UP 180 DAYS.
I THINK 180 DAYS, THAT'S JUST 30 DAYS MORE.
THAT'S SIX MONTHS. I THINK THAT'S ADEQUATE TIME RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT.
THEN IF WE NEED TO EXTEND IT FURTHER, SO BE IT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 01-1301 TO MAKE IT 180 DAYS.
>> I'LL TAKE IT ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON?
>> MOTION PASS. WE'LL MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
MR. LANA YOU CAN START WITH H10 THAT WAS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT.
[H10. 2025-005 Consider approving a request from JENHOLDCO 24, LLC for preliminary plat approval for a property being a 179.303 acre tract of land situated in the Thomas A. Rhodes Survey, Abstract No. 741, and the John Russell Survey, Abstract No. 743, City of Princeton, Collin County, Texas; and take appropriate action. ]
>> WE WERE GOING NOW GOING TO IN OUR REGULAR SESSION, CALL H10.
FROM OUR CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM H10, CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FROM GENHOLD CO 24 LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR PROPERTY BEING 179.303 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE THOMAS A ROAD SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 741, AND THE JOHN RUSSELL SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 743, CITY OF PRINCETON, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR ESCOBAR, COUNSEL.
MY NAME IS CRAIG FISHER, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS REQUEST IS FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR APPROXIMATELY 180 ACRE TRACT OF LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF FM 78, JUST SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 831.
THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED TO CONSIST OF ABOUT 700 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LOT.
A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL CONSISTENT WITH THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT AND APPROVED IN JULY 2024.
THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT INCLUDES PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PLANS, PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE PLANS, PRELIMINARY UTILITY PLANS.
THESE PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY STAFF, THE CITY'S ENGINEER, AND HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR ADOPTED REGULATIONS.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
THE DEVELOPER'S ENGINEER IS ALSO HERE AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
>> MR. FISHER, YOU DID ANSWER A QUESTION I HAD ON THIS ONE EARLIER, BUT I WANTED TO GET I GUESS, GET GRANTS.
SUGGEST NOT SUGGESTING, BUT IF GRANT CAN HELP ME OUT WITH THIS ONE.
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IS THE MORATORIUM FOR APPROVAL? IS IT BASED ON WHEN COUNSEL GAVE THE VOTES OR WHEN THE APPLICATION IS SIGNED?>> MR. JOHNSON, SO IT'S WITHIN I BELIEVE THE DATE IS SEPTEMBER 19, JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT'S WITHIN. IT'S WHEN THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM WENT INTO EFFECT.
IT'S ANYTHING RECEIVED ON THAT DATE OR THEREAFTER?
>> THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED IN JULY OF 2024.
THERE'S A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM LATER THIS EVENING I'LL DISCUSS THAT.
>> I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
JUST NEED TO CONFIRM THE LEGALITIES OF HOW THE MORATORIUM ON THESE WAS IMPACTED.
>> DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO COMMENT? I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTION.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM H10.
>> I'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON.
>> I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTIONING HERE.
IN THE DOCUMENT, THERE'S SCHOOLS LISTED IN THE DESCRIPTION, BUT NOT ON THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT ITSELF.
WE'RE TRYING TO SCROLL THROUGH THE DOCUMENT.
>> MS. ANDERSON, IF YOU COULD OPEN THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.
SCROLL TO KEEP GOING ONE MORE.
THE SCHOOL SITE IS SHOWN AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE UP TO THE NORTH.
THAT IS A ATTRACT OF LAND THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ALREADY ACQUIRED.
>> IS RIGHT WHERE YOU SAY IT IS. THERE IT GOES.
WELCOME. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM H10 2025-005.
>> I'LL TAKE A CALL, MR. JOHNSON?
>> MOTION PASSED. I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE BIT OF OUT OF ORDER ON THIS NEXT ITEM.
JOHN, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.
[M. REGULAR AGENDA]
THIS IS GOING TO BE 2025-019.CONSIDER APPROVING THE ELECTION OF A MAYOR PRO TEMPO AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
I PERSONALLY, ON MY PAGE, I PUT OUT A QUESTION ABOUT WHO THE PUBLIC BELIEVES SHOULD TAKE THIS POSITION.
PERSONALLY, LIKE, I'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH, WHO I THINK WOULD SUIT THE CITY BEST, BUT I THINK THAT BASED ON THE DIRECTION THE CITY WENT IN WITH THIS PAST ELECTION, AND WHAT I KNOW ABOUT MR. JOHNSON, I WANT TO NOMINATE MR. JOHNSON FOR THIS POSITION HERE.
BUT I'LL TAKE THE REST OF COUNSEL OF OPINION ON THIS.
>> MAYOR WOULD HAD TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE, TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE HIM.
BUT I CAN MAKE A MOTION. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TO NOMINATE MYSELF.
>> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. TO MAKE STEVE DEFONBAUGH MAYOR PRO-TEM.
>> I'D TAKE A ROLL CALL, MR. JOHNSON.
>> ALL RIGHT. MR. LAND, YOU CAN PROCEED WITH THE REGULAR AGENDA.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK NOW ON REGULAR AGENDA ITEM M1.
PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF
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THE 2024 RESIDENTIAL SATISFACTION SURVEY RESULTS PRESENTED BY ERIN MOODY, DIRECTOR OF MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS.IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU ONCE AGAIN.
ERIN MOODY, DIRECTOR OF MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON.
MAY I ALSO SAY YOU ALL LOOK LOVELY THIS EVENING.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE CHOSE TO DO A RESIDENT SATISFACTION SURVEY BEFORE I GET INTO THE PRESENTATION.
WHEN I ARRIVED HERE AT THE VERY END OF APRIL, I TOOK AN ASSESSMENT OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS, AND I RECOGNIZED THAT THE CITY NEEDED TO TWEAK SOME THINGS TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT INFORMATION TO OUR RESIDENTS.
AT THE TIME, THERE WAS A QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER.
WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE CITY, YOU CAN IMAGINE TRYING TO SHARE ALL THAT INFORMATION ONCE EVERY THREE MONTHS WAS QUITE A TASK.
WE HAD TO ALSO ADD SOME COMMUNICATIONS CHANNELS, INCREASE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS ON THE ORIGINAL PRINCETON CARES FACEBOOK GROUP.
WE ADDED TWITTER, INSTAGRAM AND SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, INCLUDING NEXTDOOR.
THEN ONE OF THE OTHER GOALS THAT I HAD, AND I SHARED WITH MR. MASHBURN WAS THE NEED TO MAKE OUR COMMUNICATION TWO WAYS.
IT'S ONE THING TO PUSH OUT INFORMATION, IT'S ANOTHER TO DO LISTENING.
WE ALL ARE IN OUR LOCAL GROUPS, I MONITOR THEM.
I SEE WHAT PEOPLE POST ON OUR PAGES.
I SEE WHAT PEOPLE SEND TO US AND THE COMMENTS THAT THEY MAKE.
THAT'S FINE, BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE PLATFORM.
FACEBOOK IS ONLY ONE PLATFORM.
TO MY SURPRISE, BEFORE THE SURVEY, THERE HAD NOT BEEN A RESIDENT SATISFACTION SURVEY DONE IN THE CITY OF PRINCETON.
THERE WERE TIMES THAT THE CITY DID GO TO THE PUBLIC TO ASK INFORMATION, 2018 FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL VIEW, AND A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THIS SURVEY.
ANOTHER TIME WAS 2023 REGARDING THE PARKS BOND PROJECTS.
AGAIN, SUPER LIMITED TINY MICROCOSM OF THE THINGS DOES NOT TO SAY THAT PARKS IS SMALL, BUT IT'S NOT THE BIG PICTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
WE'LL GET INTO IT. OKAY, WHY CONDUCT A RESIDENT SURVEY? WE WANTED TO FOSTER OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF.
WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RESIDENTS PRIORITIES AND CONCERNS ARE, AND THEN ALSO USE THE DATA THAT WE'VE COLLECTED TO, MAKE PLANS THAT ARE DATA DRIVEN AND IMPROVE SERVICES AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT IS MEASURED IS MANAGED, AND WE NEED TO HAVE A BENCHMARK TO START, TAKE A SNAPSHOT AND SEE, OUR PROGRESS ALONG THE WAY.
HOW DID WE CONDUCT THE SURVEY? WE CONTRACTED WITH ON POINT INSIGHTS.
THEY DO THESE SURVEYS ALL OVER.
SOME OF THE NEARBY CITIES THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED, INCLUDE MELISSA, THE CITY OF JUSTIN, THE CITY OF KELLER, AND THEN ALSO, LIKE BERNIE.
THERE'S A I WANTED ORGANIZATION THAT UNDERSTANDS FAST GROWING CITIES, AND A LOT OF THOSE CITIES ARE FAST GROWING, AND THEY HAVE THE SIMILAR NEEDS THAT WE DO.
WE HAD 1,329 RESPONSES WITH A PLUS MINUS OF 2.6%.
WE RECRUITED RESPONSES IN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE USED EMAIL THE EMAILS THAT THROUGH UTILITY BILLING, SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT'S FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, AND NEXTDOOR.
THEN OUR ENEWS LETTER, THE PULSE, WHICH GOES OUT EVERY WEEK.
I KNOW YOU ALL ARE SIGNED UP, I CAN CHECK.
THEN WE ALSO SENT OUT A MESSAGE VIA OUR CITY APP, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY RESPONDENTS THROUGH THAT MECHANISM.
THE SURVEY, WE HAD ASKED THEM TO DIVIDE OUR CITY INTO SIX SECTIONS.
THAT'S BECAUSE THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE IN AREA 1 AT THE VERY NORTH END OF THE CITY ARE VASTLY DIFFERENT THAN THOSE IN AREA 5.
WE WANTED TO GET WHAT THE PULSE SAYS FOR EACH OF THOSE DIFFERENT REGIONS.
THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO DIFFER IN THINGS LIKE AGE DEMOGRAPHICS, MAYBE INCOME LEVEL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO PARTICIPANTS GOT TO RATE CITY FACILITIES AND EVENTS, OUR SERVICE OFFERINGS, OUR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY AND SECURITY, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE CITY.
DO THEY FEEL SAFE, OUR OPERATIONS.
THEN ALSO TALK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE PUBLIC, I'M SORRY, WITH THE PUBLIC'S EXPERIENCE WITH STAFF AND ELECTED.
THEN THEY ALSO WERE ABLE TO LEAVE ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK COMMENTARY.
WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE WHOLE SURVEY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE TOOK TIME TO EXPLAIN THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT CERTAIN ITEMS. WHO RESPONDED? PRIMARILY, WE'LL JUST LOOK AT THE AGE.
THE AVERAGE AGE OF OUR CITY IS 32.9.
IT'S NOT SURPRISING TO ME THAT THE LARGEST PORTION WAS OF THAT 30-39 AGE GROUP.
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MORE FEMALES THAN MALES HAVE RESPONDED.AGAIN, THAT IS NOT A SHOCK TO ME.
OUR LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC IS WOMEN AGED 18-45.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE RESPONDING TO US, THEY'RE LIKING OUR POST, THEY'RE COMMENTING, THEY'RE SHARING, AND THEY ARE THE DECISION MAKERS OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS, AS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW.
ONE STATISTIC, I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO CALL OUT IS THE NUMBER OF YEARS IN THE CITY THAT PEOPLE RESPONDED.
PRIMARILY, THOSE THAT RESPONDED WERE HERE 1-4 YEARS.
THEY PROBABLY CAME FROM ANOTHER CITY THAT HAD SERVICES, AND THEY MOVED OUT HERE FOR, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT'S A SMALL TOWN FEEL, BUT THEY WANT STUFF TOO.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING, AND I WANTED TO CALL THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
MORE HAD CHILDREN THAN NOT, PRIMARILY WHITE RESPONDENTS.
THEN ALSO, IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE RESPONDED WERE HOMEOWNERS.
THAT TELLS YOU THAT THEY ARE INVESTED, THEY HAVE SOME LONGEVITY IN THE COMMUNITY.
SOME NOTABLE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE SURVEY.
SOME POSITIVE THINGS INCLUDE AFFORDABLE COST OF LIVING, THE SMALL TOWN FEEL.
IT'S A GOOD LOCATION, NICE SURROUNDINGS, GOOD SCHOOLS.
AREAS OF CONCERN, GROWTH IN TRAFFIC, INFRASTRUCTURE NOT KEEPING UP, LACK OF SHOPPING OPTIONS, LACK OF SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, LACK OF AMENITIES, LACK OF WALKABILITY, AND THEN TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, AND SOME SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES.
OF THOSE POLLED, 53% FELT WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND 47% FELT LIKE WE ARE MOVING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, 54% SAID WE STAYED THE SAME OR IMPROVED, AND THEN 46% SAID THEY FELT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.
SOME TAKEAWAYS, THE TOP CRITICAL NEEDS FROM THE SURVEY THAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO MANAGE GROWTH WHILE MAINTAINING THE SMALL TOWN FEEL.
TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND SUSTAINABILITY ALONG WITH GROWTH.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE RETAIL OFFERINGS AND SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS IS NEEDED, AS WELL AS UPGRADING AMENITIES, EVENTS, RECREATION PROGRAMMING, AND ALSO IMPLEMENTING SENIOR PROGRAMMING.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LARGE SENTIMENT ABOUT THE NEED FOR SENIOR PROGRAMMING, AND THEN ALSO IMPROVING MOBILITY WITH SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS.
OUR NEXT STEPS ARE TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND THEN USE THAT TO PRIORITIZE OUR PROJECTS BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
WE ALSO WANT YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT IT, DIGEST IT, AND CONSIDER IT WHEN WE ARE AT OUR STRATEGIC RETREAT LATER THIS YEAR.
ALSO, THOSE THINGS WILL ALSO BE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION DURING BUDGET RETREATS.
REGULAR UPDATES ON PROJECT PROGRESS WILL BE PROVIDED THROUGH NEWSLETTERS, THE WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA, AND PUBLIC MEETINGS, RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT A MAJOR PROJECTS PAGE THAT DOES ADDRESS A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, WHICH ALSO MIRROR A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS DURING THE SURVEY.
THEN RESIDENT INVOLVEMENT, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEEK OUT INPUT THROUGH TOWN HALLS AND ONLINE FORUMS AND FUTURE SURVEYS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ENGAGE OUR PROGRESS AND HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING AND BRINGING TO THE CITY.
HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT DESPITE THE SURVEY OR PRIOR TO THE SURVEY'S CONCLUSION, WE HAD ALREADY STARTED MAKING PLANS TO WORK ON THESE ITEMS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DID INSTITUTE A MORATORIUM, AS JUST REVIEWED TO ADDRESS CONCERNS ABOUT RAPID GROWTH.
WITH THAT, WE'VE ALSO BEGUN REVIEWING ZONING REGULATIONS TO ENSURE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S GOALS.
THEN WE ARE ALSO REVIEWING OUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDING STANDARDS.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE AGENDA.
WE'VE ALSO ADDRESSED THE NEED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WITH $17,000,000 IN CRITICAL ROAD MAINTENANCE.
THEN YOU HEARD THE PLANS FOR ADDRESSING MOBILITY ISSUES ALONG WITH THE LAST MONTH YOU GUYS APPROVED MR. MAPP'S DATA DRIVEN PLAN TO DETERMINE ROADWAY REPAIRS.
WE'VE ALSO WORKED TO UPGRADE OUR CITY SERVICES, AND WE'VE USED THE DATA THAT WE'VE TAKEN FROM THE SURVEY TO TALK TO DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT, HEY, MAYBE THIS INTERACTION, THIS RESIDENT HAD AN INTERACTION.
THEY COULDN'T FIND SOMETHING OR THEY DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER THAT THEY NEEDED.
HOW CAN WE SHORE UP THAT PROCESS? AND OUT OF THAT, WE'VE ALSO, INTERNALLY, IN MY DEPARTMENT, STARTED WORKING ON THE WEBSITE UPDATE AND THEN HOW WE ARE COMMUNICATING THINGS TO THE RESIDENTS ON HOW THEY CAN FIND INFORMATION OUT ABOUT SERVICES AND MAYBE MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THEM AS WELL.
WE'RE WORKING ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TEAMS AND ENSURING THAT THEY
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HAVE ADEQUATE STAFFING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.I KNOW CHIEF WATERS TALKED ABOUT THE SAFER GRANT AS WELL.
AS FAR AS PARKS AND RECREATION, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ADDING SENIOR PROGRAMMING AT THE MULTI-GEN FACILITY.
THAT ADDRESSES THAT CRITICAL NEED, THAT COMPONENT THAT OUR RESIDENTS SO GREATLY WANT.
THEN WE'VE WORKED TO INCREASE COMMUNICATION, WEEKLY NEWSLETTERS, REGULAR CORRESPONDENCE.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU SEE ME OUT THERE IN THE GROUPS AND SAY, HEY, YOU CAN MESSAGE ME.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER OR FIND OUT FOR YOU.
CONTINUING TO DRIVE THAT TWO WAY CHANNEL OF COMMUNICATION IS CRITICAL FOR US.
I THINK WHEN YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT THE SURVEY, AND DIGEST IT, YOU'LL SEE HOW THIS BENCHMARK CAN BENEFIT US. FUTURE SURVEYS.
WE CAN DO IT IN ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS AFTER THIS.
IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR US TO CONTINUALLY MEASURE THAT PROGRESS.
BUT I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> THANK YOU, AARON, BY THE WAY, GREAT PRESENTATION.
I HAD A QUESTION IN TERMS OF TAKING THE SURVEY, IS IT EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO HAVE THESE SURVEYS AND TAKE THEM OUT?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT THE COST IS IN LINE WITH OTHER VENDORS THAT PROVIDE THIS SERVICE.
IT'S PRETTY STANDARD, I WOULD SAY.
>> I GUESS I ASK ONLY BECAUSE OF THE THE NEXT ONE THAT WE'D LIKE TO CREATE A PATTERN OF WHEN TO DO IT OR WHEN THE MEASURE IS LIKE, IS IT COST EFFICIENT TO DO THEM EVERY THREE MONTHS OR TWO YEARS?
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND EVERY 2-3 YEARS, AND WE DO GET A PRICE BREAK AT THE NEXT TWO INTERVALS.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> SURE. YOU ALSO ARE NOT LIMITED TO DOING THE SURVEY FOR RESIDENT SATISFACTION.
IF YOU CHOSE TO DO A SURVEY PERHAPS ON PARKS AND RECREATION OR ANOTHER TOPIC, YOU CAN ALSO USE THAT PLATFORM FOR THAT.
>> I GUESS THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION I WOULD ADD TO IS THAT MOST OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, DISSATISFACTORY IN THE SURVEY TAKES A LITTLE TIME TO DEVELOP TO COME TO FRUITION.
WOULD IT BE TO OUR BEST BENEFIT TO WAIT UNTIL WE AT LEAST START ON THAT PROCESS? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU MENTIONED, YOU WENT DOWN THE LIST OF WHAT'S BEING WORKED ON AND WHAT'S ALREADY IN PIPELINE.
>> I DO THINK IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO WAIT IN THE MEANTIME.
THE INFORMATION THAT IS PRESENTED HERE WILL BE PUBLISHED ONLINE, AND ALONG WITH SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT I MENTIONED THAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING.
AND THEN AGAIN, ON THAT PAGE, THERE'S A LINK TO THE MAJOR PROJECTS PAGE THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE.
ONE THING THAT I DO AFTER A COUNCIL MEETING, SAY THAT THERE'S A TRACTION ON THE ITEM ON THE MAJOR PROJECTS PAGE IS, I TAKE WHATEVER THE DECISION WAS OR PRESENTATION, I PUT IT ON THAT SUBSEQUENT PROJECT.
THAT WAY, PEOPLE CAN SEE LIKE A TIMELINE OF THE PROGRESS.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK ALREADY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITHOUT MAYBE THE NECESSITY OF THE FORMAL SURVEY.
>> I THINK IT HELPS US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE, NOT TALKING POINTS, BUT BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THESE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND ADDRESS SOME OF THESE PAIN POINTS.
WE KNOW WHAT THE PAIN POINTS ARE. THANKS AGAIN.
>> I WILL SAY NOTHING WAS EARTH SHATTERING IN THIS.
WE UNDERSTAND THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT, WE CAN ONLY GO UP.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THE INFORMATION IN THE SURVEY IS ULTRA SORTABLE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU CAN SORT BY, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE DETERMINED BY, DEMOGRAPHIC, BY AGE, BY RACE, BY WHATEVER.
YOU CAN SEE, MAYBE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE 65 AND UP HAVE A DIFFERENT NEED THAN THOSE, 18-45 MOMS. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM M2-2025-010, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE CITY'S PERMITTING AND INSPECTION PROCESS.
THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LONG AND COUNCIL MEMBER DEFFIBAUGH.
COUNSEL. MY NAME IS CRAIG FISHER.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AS MR. LAND STATED, THIS PRESENTATION IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU THIS EVENING AT THE REQUEST OF MR. LONG AND MR. DEFFIBAUGH.
I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S PERMITTING PROCESS, WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY AND SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE A PORTION OF MY STAFF THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE.
IF THEY WOULD STAND, I HAVE MISS BECKY INGE, ONE OF OUR THREE PERMIT TECHNICIANS.
HER AND HER COUNTERPARTS HANDLE THOUSANDS OF PERMITS THAT COME THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT.
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MATT, STAND, PLEASE.MATT, IS ONE OF 4.5 INSPECTORS THAT WE HAVE.
HE IS A SPECIALTY IN ELECTRICAL INSPECTIONS.
ANYTHING ELECTRICAL, HE TAKES CARE OF IT FOR THE CITY, DOES A GREAT JOB.
THEN WE HAVE MR. PAUL FERRIS, HE IS A PLANS EXAMINER.
ALL PLANS THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, COMPLEX, COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS PROJECTS, YOU NAME IT. THEY COME THROUGH HIM.
HE REVIEWS THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE ADOPTED BUILDING CODES OF THE CITY.
THEN MR. COLE DAVENPORT IS OUR PLANNER, HE LOOKS AT THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT INVOLVE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH AS SUBDIVISIONS AND LARGER COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.
HE HANDLES ALL OF OUR ZONING REQUESTS, SUPS, PLATS, PRIMARY PLATS, FINAL PLATS, THOSE THINGS, THOSE STAFF REPORTS, YOU SEE.
HE'S THE MAN BEHIND THOSE REPORTS.
HAPPY TO HAVE THESE GUYS HERE WANTED TO PUT A FACE TO SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THE CITY AND JUST GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF RECOGNITION FOR THEIR HARD WORK.
>> MR. FISHER BEFORE YOU START, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE BECKY.
SHE IS AT ALL CITY EVENTS AND DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
I MEAN, SHE'S A VOLUNTEER THERE.
I MEAN, JUST I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S GETTING PAID OR NOT, BUT SHE DOES GIVE A LOT OF HERSELF TO THE CITY.
>> I AGREE. SHE DOES AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HER.
>> WE HAVE PROJECTS PERMITS THAT COME IN THAT FALL INTO TWO BUCKETS.
I'M FIRST GOING TO START ABOUT TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.
ALL OF THESE ITEMS LISTED, A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THAT'S FOR A NEW BUSINESS OWNER COMING IN TO OCCUPY AN EXISTING SPACE.
YOU HAVE DEMO BUILDING, BUILDING SIDEWALK, FENCES, FOUNDATION REPAIR.
THE LIST IS THERE. THIS LIST IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE OF WHAT REQUIRES A PERMIT.
THESE ARE GENERALLY SIMPLE ITEMS. MANY OF THESE CAN BE APPLIED BY THE HOME OWNER AND THAT WORK CAN BE CARRIED OUT BY THE HOMEOWNER.
THOSE PERMITS ARE SUBMITTED ONLINE.
WE HAVE A NEWER ONLINE SYSTEM THROUGH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.
THE PROGRAM IS CALLED INTERGOV.
THIS IS A SOFTWARE THAT MYSELF AND MY TEAM INHERITED FROM OUR PREVIOUS COUNTERPARTS.
WE'RE NOT FULLY SATISFIED WITH IT.
WE HAVE BEEN SHOPPING AROUND FOR NEW PERMITTING SOFTWARE.
THAT'S UP IN THE AIR, BUT WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING COMPARABLE IF WE DON'T KEEP THIS.
USERS CAN LOG ON, THEY CREATE AN ACCOUNT.
THEY INDICATE WHAT TYPE OF PERMIT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR.
THEY'LL UPLOAD ANY DRAWINGS AS REQUIRED AND THEN THOSE POP INTO MR. FERRIS'S OR HIS INBOX.
HE REVIEWS THOSE PLANS, PROVIDES COMMENTS IF THERE ARE ANY TO THE APPLICANT.
THEN ANY BACK AND FORTH THAT'S NEEDED HAPPENS AND THE PLANS ARE APPROVED, THE PERMIT FEES ARE PAID AND THE PERMIT IS ISSUED.
THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY'RE READY, THE SOFTWARE WILL INDICATE WHICH INSPECTIONS ARE NEEDED.
THEY CAN REQUEST THOSE ONLINE ON THE PORTAL AND WE DO NEXT DAY INSPECTIONS, NEXT BUSINESS DAY, SHOULD CLARIFY.
WE'LL GET OUT VERY QUICKLY TO DO ANY OF THE NEEDED INSPECTIONS.
OUR INSPECTORS, THEY VISIT ON SITE WITH THE CONTRACTORS, THEY NOTE ANY DEFICIENCIES, ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE BEFORE APPROVING.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROCESS TO THIS POINT? YES, MS. TODD.
>> ON THIS SLIDE, IT SHOWS THAT THERE'S A SEARCH FOR PUBLIC RECORDS. IT'S INTERESTING.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE DO RECORDS REQUESTS, BUT THIS SHOWS A SEARCH OPTION.
WHAT RECORDS ARE WE ABLE TO BE SEARCHING WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THROUGH THIS SYSTEM?
>> YOU CAN SEE WHAT PERMITS HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR.
IT'S VERY LIMITED INFORMATION, BUT YES, YOU CAN SUBMIT AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST AND GET THE FULL SUBMITTAL.
ANY DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WITH ANY PERMIT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'VE USED THIS PERMIT SYSTEM LOTS ACTUALLY AT MY OWN PERSONAL HOME THROUGH PRINCETON FOR MY FENCE.
IT'S ACTUALLY VERY NEAT SYSTEM.
IT TELLS YOU WHO YOUR INSPECTOR IS, GIVES YOU PHONE NUMBERS, GIVES YOU TIME FRAMES.
IT'S PRETTY NEAT AND SO THAT DOCUMENT SEARCH, IT'S ONLY DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE PERMIT THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGH YOUR LOGIN CREDENTIALS, PRETTY MUCH.
>> HOW FAR BACK DOES IT GO? ARE YOU SCANNING IN EXISTING PERMITS WE HAVE, OR IS IT JUST GOING FORWARD THE ONES THAT SUBMITTED ONLINE THAT WILL BE IN THERE?
>> THE SYSTEM DOES STORE VERY LIMITED INFORMATION FOR WHAT'S CALLED LEGACY PERMITS OR PERMITS THAT WERE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO US IMPLEMENTING THIS SOFTWARE.
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IT'S FAIRLY LIMITED.ANYTHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED AFTER THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SOFTWARE, THERE'S LOTS THAT SAVED ONLINE.
WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN BUILDING PERMITS FOR FIVE YEARS.
AFTER THAT, THEY GO TO THE SHREDDER, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LARGE DATABASE OF PERMITS HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR OVER PAST DECADES.
>> I GUESS IT'D BE TRUE TO SAY THAT MOST OF THE APPLICATIONS, EVERYTHING NOW IS ALL I GUESS A DIGITAL FORMAT, ALL THE PLANS SUBMITTED.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN REVIEW IN A BIG TABLE AND LAY EVERYTHING OUT AND STORE ALL THOSE, WHICH TAKES UP QUITE A BIT OF SPACE.
NOW, WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME? YOU GET A PERMIT REQUEST FOR SOME COMMERCIAL PROJECT, WHAT IS THE TURNAROUND? IT GOES THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS, IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IT HAS TO GO TO THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
THERE'S A LITTLE CHECK BOX, I GUESS THAT YOU GO ALONG THE LINE THERE.
BUT WHAT IS THE TURNAROUND? IF THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS OR SOME OF THESE TO BE ANSWERED, DO YOU SUBMIT BACK TO THE PERSON WHO'S REQUESTED THE PERMIT? HOW FAST IS THAT TURNAROUND? IF THEY ANSWER A QUESTION, DO YOU GET RIGHT BACK TO THEM? OR IS IT TWO OR THREE DAYS A WEEK OR WHAT?
>> SURE. THE TIME FRAME IS GOING TO DEPEND, AND SIMPLE ITEMS, A FENCE PERMIT, STANDARD HOUSE PERMITS FOR THESE LARGER SUBDIVISIONS, WE GET THE SAME PERMIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
WE'RE ANSWERING AND RESPONDING AND ISSUING THOSE WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS.
LARGER, MORE COMPLICATED COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, 2-3 WEEKS BEFORE THE INITIAL PLAN REVIEW COMMENTS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE APPLICANT.
AND YES, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARISE, WE'LL REACH OUT IMMEDIATELY AND ASK THOSE.
DOCUMENTS ARE UPLOADED THROUGH THE SYSTEM, BUT GENERALLY WE COMMUNICATE OUTSIDE VIA EMAIL OR PHONE CALL AS NEEDED.
I THINK WE STRIVE TO BE CUSTOMER FRIENDLY AND BE QUICK AT SERVICE.
IT DEPENDS THE TIME FRAME, DEPENDS ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT, SO WE STRIVE TO ANSWER IN A TIMELY MANNER.
>> WHEN SOMEONE IS GETTING A PERMIT, SO RETAINING WALLS, DO THE BUILDERS HAVE TO GET A SEPARATE PERMIT FOR THOSE RETAINING WALLS THEY'RE PUTTING UP, OR ARE THOSE RETAINING WALLS BEING INCLUDED IN THE PERMIT THAT THEY'RE GETTING FOR THE BUILD IN GENERAL?
>> RETAINING WALLS FOR A SUBDIVISION WILL REQUIRE A SEPARATE PERMIT AND WILL REQUIRE ENGINEERED PLANS.
THEY ARE STAMPED BY A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, THEN SAID ENGINEERS IS REQUIRED TO INSPECT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE RETAINING WALLS.
>> THAT ANSWERED MY OTHER QUESTIONS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? DEVELOPMENT PERMITS CAN FALL INTO A SEPARATE CATEGORY.
THEY REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL STEP.
THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT CONTAIN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, SUBDIVISIONS, THEY CONTAIN PUBLIC ROADS, PUBLIC UTILITY LINES.
THE FIRST STEP FOR THESE PROJECTS IS A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.
WE MEET WITH DEVELOPERS AT A REGULAR BASIS AND WE'RE GENERALLY 1-2 WEEKS OUT SCHEDULING THOSE MEETINGS.
THOSE MEETINGS ARE WITH CITY STAFF, THE CITY ENGINEER, THE FIRE MARSHAL, BUILDING OFFICIAL.
THE DEVELOPER WILL COME, GENERALLY BRING THEIR ENGINEERS, THEIR ARCHITECTS, THEIR CONTRACTOR.
WE GET EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT, TALK ABOUT ANY FORESEEN ISSUES.
THIS IS A REALLY HELPFUL AND CRITICAL STEP TO THE PROCESS.
THIS PRE-APPLICATION MEETING GENERALLY HELPS THINGS MOVE ALONG A LOT SMOOTHER.
WE DON'T CATCH EVERYTHING IN THAT FIRST INITIAL MEETING OFTEN.
COMMENTS WILL COME UP LATER IN PLAN REVIEW, THINGS WE DIDN'T FORESEE UNTIL WE DIVE DEEP INTO THEIR PLANS, BUT WE TRY TO COVER ALL OF WHAT'S EXPECTED, WHAT THE PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE.
IT'S A VERY HELPFUL STEP TO THE PROCESS.
THEN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WILL BE THE FIRST STEP AFTER THAT.
PRELIMINARY PLAT IS REVIEWED BY STAFF AND OUR ENGINEERS AND THEN IT IS BROUGHT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
AFTER APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT, THEN THE DEVELOPER WILL SUBMIT FULL CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS AND THAT'S A DETAILED REVIEW THAT ALSO GOES TO OUR CITY ENGINEER, OUR FIRE MARSHAL.
WE REVIEW LANDSCAPE PLANS IN HOUSE, AND THOSE REVIEWS CAN GET A LITTLE LENGTHY 2-3 SOMETIMES FOUR WEEKS.
THESE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS ARE HUNDREDS OF PAGES LONG.
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THEY'RE VERY COMPLICATED, A LOT GOING ON.OCCASIONALLY BE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS SUCH AS FLOOD STUDIES, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, DRAINAGE ANALYSIS.
THERE'S OTHER STEPS THAT CAN BE PART OF THAT CONSTRUCTION PLAN SUBMITTAL.
THIS PROCESS CAN BE LENGTHY AND TAKE MONTHS, BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES ON, AND THIS IS OUR CHANCE REALLY TO ENSURE THAT WHAT'S BEING DEVELOPED IS BEING DONE AT PARK CITY CODE.
>> WHEN DOING THESE PERMITS, YOU WERE FOUR AND A HALF INSPECTORS, WE JUST APPROVED 1,200 HOUSES.
ARE THEY THE ONES DOING ALL 1,200 OF THOSE HOUSES, OR ARE WE ALSO HAVING THIRD PARTY INSPECTORS HELP CHECK FOR THOSE THINGS?
>> SURE. THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS REVIEWED BY THE CITY'S CIVIL ENGINEER FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, FROM TOMMY'S DEPARTMENT.
THEY ARE REVIEWING THE CONSTRUCTION WHILE IT'S ONGOING.
THE CITY ENGINEER IS ALSO INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AND WE'LL GET THEIR BUY OFF BEFORE WE BRING A FINAL PLAT FOR APPROVAL TO APPROVE A NEW SUBDIVISION.
THEN THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, ACTUAL HOUSE THAT YOU SEE COME OUT OF THE GROUND, THAT IS INSPECTED BY CITY STAFF.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR IN HOUSE INSPECTORS AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR, BUREAU VERITAS, AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING 20 HOURS A WEEK TO MEET OUR DEMANDS.
>> BLESS YOU FOR BEING THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO BE DOING 1,200 HOUSES.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS A CHICKEN OR THE EGG KIND OF QUESTION.
WHAT COMES FIRST, YOUR PLATTING OR YOUR PERMITS?
FOR A NEW SUBDIVISION, THE FINAL PLAT MUST BE APPROVED BY YOU ALL, BY COUNCIL.
THAT PLAT HAS TO BE FILED WITH COLLIN COUNTY BEFORE WE WILL ISSUE ANY BUILDING PERMITS FOR VERTICAL LIKE THE ACTUAL HOUSE, SO PLATS COME FIRST.
FOR A COMMERCIAL PROJECT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION CAN BE ONGOING WHILE THE BUILDING IS BEING BUILT, BUT THE PLAT MUST BE APPROVED AND FILED BEFORE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY WILL BE ISSUED FOR THE BUILDING.
>> IF YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COMES IN, YOUR DEPARTMENTS ARE PART OF THAT ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS?
>> YES. THAT NEGOTIATION OFTEN STARTS WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BUT I AM INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. YES, SIR.
>> ARE DEVELOPERS ALLOWED TO START SELLING HOMES OR TAKING EQUITABLE INTEREST SUCH AS A DEPOSIT PRIOR TO THE FINAL PLATS COMING BEFORE COUNCIL AND BEING APPROVED?
>> OUR REGULATIONS DON'T ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN TAKE A DEPOSIT.
>> IF THAT COUNTS AS AN EQUITABLE INTEREST, THEN IF THEY CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE FINAL PLAT, WOULD NOT THOSE HOMEOWNERS NEED TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES OR ANY CHANGES MADE IF THEY'VE MADE A DEPOSIT AND THUS AN EQUITABLE INTEREST INTO THE DEVELOPMENT?
>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
MR. LOWRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THERE? I DON'T THINK OUR ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THAT SPECIFICALLY.
>> IT DOESN'T, AND WE CAN GATHER MORE INFORMATION AND COME BACK WITH A SOLID ANSWER.
>> BUT NO PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED UNTIL THAT PLAT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED.
WHAT THE DEVELOPER DOES BEFORE THAT, THAT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS, BUT I'LL LOOK INTO IT FURTHER WITH MR. LOWRY.
LOOKING FOR AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT, WE HAD A VERY INSIGHTFUL MEETING WITH THE CITY OF FATE WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
THEIR DIRECTOR CAME TO OUR OFFICES AND WE SPENT A MORNING SEVERAL HOURS WITH THEM GOING OVER OUR PERMIT PROCESS, OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, AND THEY PROVIDED SOME INSIGHTFUL FEEDBACK.
IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT TO HELP SIMPLIFY THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
FIRST, WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING A SUBMITTAL SCHEDULE.
CURRENTLY, WE ACCEPT SUBMITTALS AT ANY TIME AND WE'LL REVIEW THEM AND WE HAVE SUBMITTALS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN DIFFERENT STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE PROPOSING A DEVELOPMENT CALENDAR OR SUBMITTALS WILL ONLY BE ACCEPTED ON A CERTAIN DAY.
ALL COMMENTS WILL BE AVAILABLE ON A CERTAIN DAY.
RESUBMITTALS NEED TO BE IN BY A CERTAIN DAY TO GET TO A CERTAIN P&Z AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IT'LL MAKE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER REALLY CLEAR.
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I'M EXCITED TO IMPLEMENT THAT.I'VE DONE THAT IN OTHER CITIES, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT IN PLACE HERE.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PROVIDING SOME DETAILED CHECKLISTS FOR OUR APPLICANTS.
CURRENTLY ALL OUR REGULATIONS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE, BUT MANY OTHER CITIES PROVIDE A CHECKLIST TO GIVE A ONE OR TWO PAGE DOCUMENT WHERE THE DEVELOPERS, ENGINEER CAN GO AND SEE THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO PUT ON THE PLANS.
THEN GOING IN TO THE BUILDING SIDE, LOOKING AT FOUNDATIONS, I KNOW THAT FOUNDATIONS HAVE BEEN OF GREAT CONCERN TO RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND TO THE COUNCIL.
WE DID A PEER EVALUATION OF FOUNDATION DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FROM A FEW NEIGHBORING CITIES.
WE FOUND THAT OUR FOUNDATION REQUIREMENTS ARE ON PAR WITH SURROUNDING CITIES AND WE REQUIRE AN ENGINEERED PLAN BY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT'S REQUIRED WITH THE PERMIT AND WE REQUIRE THAT TO BE ON SITE.
WE INSPECT THE FOUNDATIONS PRIOR TO THEM BEING POURED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOOTINGS ARE DUG TO THE PROPER DEPTH, THAT THE POST TENSION CABLES ARE THERE AS REQUIRED.
THEN THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER HAS TO ALSO APPROVE OF SAID FOUNDATION.
ONE AREA WE DID LOOK AT FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES DO IS REQUIRING A DRIP SYSTEM AROUND THE FOUNDATION TO KEEP THE MOISTURE OF THE SOIL CONSISTENT TO LIMIT THE EXPANDING AND CONTRACTING OF SOILS, WHICH CAN BE VERY DETRIMENTAL TO FOUNDATIONS.
WITH YOUR, I GUESS, BLESSING, WE'LL PROCEED WITH LOOKING AT A CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE THAT. YES, MR. LONG.
>> FOR THE FOUNDATIONS, IN MY PAST WORK EXPERIENCE, FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROTECTING FOUNDATIONS AND PROPER DRAINAGE FROM PROPERTIES.
THE FINAL DRAINAGE SURVEY IS DONE BEFORE LANDSCAPING.
A LANDSCAPER COMES IN AND REGRADES A WHOLE LOT BASICALLY.
THEN THERE'S A FINAL DRAINAGE SURVEY THAT CAN BE DONE AFTER THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL SURVEY STEP TO ENSURE THAT THE LANDSCAPER HASN'T DISRUPTED THE SWELLS OR THE FLOW OF THE LAND.
ALSO MAINTAIN THE PROPER PITCH OF THE EARTH AWAY FROM THE HOME IN THAT FIRST 10 FEET TO HELP PROVIDE STAMP DOCUMENTATION THAT THAT IS HAPPENING ON EVERY SINGLE HOME.
BECAUSE SURE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AT MY HOUSE, MY HOUSE IS FLAT AS A BOARD BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER DONE A FINAL DRAINAGE SURVEY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE IF NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE DOING THAT, BUT I DO KNOW BUILDERS DO THAT TO HELP PROTECT THEMSELVES WARRANTY WISE.
MAYBE THAT'S A SELF DIRECTED THING, NOT CITY DIRECTED, BUT MAYBE WE CAN CAUSE THAT TO HAPPEN.
>> I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
WE DO REQUIRE A FORM BOARD SURVEY, BUT THAT COMES BEFORE THE FOUNDATION IS POURED AND BEFORE ANY LANDSCAPING IS DONE, SO WE COULD DEFINITELY EXPLORE DOING AN ADDITIONAL SURVEY AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS WRAPPING UP TO ENSURE THAT THE DESIGN IS STARTED.
>> I WASN'T REFERRING TO GET A DRAINAGE SURVEY AT FOUNDATION.
I WAS REFERRING DRAINAGE SURVEY AT CLOSING CERTAIN OCCUPANCY TIME FRAME.
>> UNDERSTOOD. WE CAN EXPLORE THAT.
>> I DO SUPPORT THE DRIP SYSTEM.
THAT'S A VERY EFFICIENT, INEXPENSIVE PROTECTION, ESPECIALLY ON OUR SOIL THAT WE CHERISH HERE IN PRINCETON.
>> LASTLY WE HAD SOME STATISTICS TO PROVIDE.
IN 2024 THROUGH OCTOBER WE HAD ISSUED 1,630 PERMITS. I CHECKED TODAY.
WE WERE JUST SHY OF 2,000 SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS ISSUED IN 2024.
OF 12 CITIES THAT I GOT IN A REPORT IN DFW, WE'RE, I THINK, NUMBER 2, JUST BEHIND MCKINNEY FOR THE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS ISSUED IN THE YEAR.
EXCUSE ME, NUMBER 3, BEHIND SALINA AND MCKINNEY.
WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO KEEP ON TOP OF IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS BEING BUILT IS SAFE AND IS GOING TO PROVIDE AN ENJOYABLE PLACE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
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WITH THAT, I'LL TURN TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU-ALL MAY HAVE, FOR MYSELF OR MY STAFF.>> THE 28,209 INSPECTIONS, THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE BY THE FOUR-AND-A-HALF PEOPLE?
>> WE'RE AVERAGING, INCLUDING WEEKENDS, ABOUT 78 INSPECTIONS A DAY, ROUGHLY TO DO THAT IN A YEAR'S TIME, AND THAT'S USING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, NOT LOOKING AT THE FIVE DAYS A WEEK, AND WE HAVE FOUR-AND-A-HALF PEOPLE DOING THOSE INSPECTIONS?
HOW LONG DOES AN INSPECTION GENERALLY TAKE IF YOU'RE GOING IN TO LOOK AT A HOUSE, A NEW BUILD?
>> MATT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.
>> I CAN SPEAK ON SOME OF THAT.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT INSPECTION IT IS, WHETHER IT'S TOP OUT, OR JUST DOING A T-POLE, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
>> MATT SQUIRE, BY THE WAY. MR. DEFFIBAUGH JUST NAILED IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD RIGHT THERE.
IT'S HARD TO PUT A TIME ON GENERAL INSPECTIONS.
>> WE JUST DID 1,200 HOUSES. BRAND NEW HOUSE.
YOU'RE GOING IN TO DO AN INSPECTION.
HOW LONG DO YOU EXPECT TO BE THERE TO INSPECT THIS HOUSE?
>> FOR A FRAME INSPECTION, WHICH INCLUDES MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, AND FRAMING, IT TAKES ABOUT 45 MINUTES ROUGHLY.
>> TO DO THE WHOLE HOUSE AND BE LIKE YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
>> THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. THANKS.
>> THIS NUMBER INCLUDES FENCES, SIGN PERMITS.
IT'S NOT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THAT'S FOR ALL INSPECTIONS CITYWIDE.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK MATT THE QUESTION.
YOU PROBABLY GO TO EACH HOUSE PROBABLY FROM THE VERY GET GO, FIVE TIMES? THIS IS PART OF YOUR WELLNESS PROGRAM.
>> EACH HOUSE THERE RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, YOU HAVE A PLUMBING ROUGH, AN ELECTRIC T-POLE INSPECTION, A FOUNDATION INSPECTION.
THEN YOU HAVE YOUR FRAME INSPECTION, WHICH IS MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, AND FRAME.
THEN YOU HAVE AN ENERGY INSULATION INSPECTION.
YOU'LL HAVE FLAT WORK, WHICH INCLUDES DRIVEWAY, SIDEWALK.
THEN YOU'LL HAVE AN ELECTRIC METER, A GAS METER, AND FINAL.
I DIDN'T COUNT PROBABLY 9,10 ROUGHLY, PER HOUSE.
>> ALL OF THEM ARE INCLUDED IN THIS 28,000 NUMBER.
>> GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
>> THERE IS NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM M32025-008.
CONSIDER APPROVING MICHELLE BURKE'S VOLUNTARY RESIGNATION FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PLAY SIX AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THIS.
FIRST, I JUST WANT TO COME IN AND THANK MICHELLE BURKE FOR HER SERVICE AND HER VOLUNTEER TIME.
I WORKED WITH HER CLOSELY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
IT TAKES A LOT OF COMMITMENT, AS WE ALL KNOW, TO DO THAT AND STEP UP TO BE A CIVIL SERVANT, TO DO THE PEOPLE'S WORK.
I JUST WANT TO THANK MICHELLE BURKE FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR HER COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND EVERYONE THAT'S STILL THERE.
THANK YOU, MICHELLE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VOLUNTARY RESIGNATION.
>> I'LL DO A ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON.
CONSIDER APPROVING JENNY BROWN'S VOLUNTARY RESIGNATION FROM THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, PLACE 7, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> SAME GOES OUT TO JENNY. I DIDN'T KNOW HER PERSONALLY, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON.
WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM M42025-018.
ALSO, ANYONE THAT VOLUNTEERS FOR ANY OF THESE BOARDS, IT'S A GREAT HELP TO OUR CITY.
I KNOW WE HAVE LOTS OF OPENINGS, LOTS OF TIMES, AND WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO STEP UP.
>> I'LL DO A ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON?
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>> ITEM M52025-012, CONSIDER APPROVING A NON-STANDARD WASTEWATER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH FULL CIRCLE DEVELOPMENTS AT KV-LLC, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> GOOD EVENING. CRAIG FISHER, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR A NON-STANDARD SANITARY SEWER AGREEMENT.
THIS PROJECT IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S ETJ.
IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S CCN, OR OUR SEWER SERVICE DISTRICT.
HERE'S A LOOK AT THE PROJECT'S LOCATION.
IT'S ON THE SOUTH OF THE CITY ON THE EASTERN PENINSULA JUST OFF OF, I THINK, FM1377.
IF YOU HEAD DOWN 982 AND TURN, I'M BUTCHERING THE ROAD NAME, NEVER MIND.
IT'S ON THAT PENINSULA THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP.
THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR 1,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING A SANITARY SEWER SERVICE.
THE DEVELOPER WILL BE CONSTRUCTING A SANITARY SEWER LINE CONNECTING TO OUR REGIONAL LIFT STATION AT MYRICK AND FM982 AND CONNECTING TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL COSTS OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
ONCE IT'S BEEN BUILT, IT WOULD BE DEEDED TO THE CITY.
THERE'D BE A TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND WHERE THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT, BUT THEREAFTER IT WOULD BE THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE.
HERE'S A LOOK AT THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS PROJECT.
THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
>> DO COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> NO QUESTIONS. I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS TO APPROVE ITEM 2025-012, THE APPROVING OF THE NON-STANDARD WASTEWATER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH FULL CIRCLE DEVELOPMENTS.
>> I'LL DO A ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON?
>> ITEM M62025-013, CONSIDER APPROVING A NON-STANDARD WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS, AND DR HORTON TEXAS LIMITED, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> GOOD EVENING. CRAIG FISHER, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS PROJECT IS ALSO OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS.
IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S ETJ, BUT IS WITHIN THE CITY'S SANITARY SEWER AGREEMENTS, SO VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM.
THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING A SANITARY SEWER SERVICE.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL ALSO HAVE SOME CITY WATER, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING SERVICE FOR 575 WATER CONNECTIONS AND 986 WASTEWATER CONNECTIONS.
A PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN MILLIGAN WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION'S SERVICE AREAS.
THE DEVELOPER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTING ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
PLANS WILL BE REVIEWED BY CITY ENGINEERS.
WE'LL REVIEW THE WORK, AND WHEN IT'S SATISFACTORY WE'LL ACCEPT THAT.
YOU-ALL WILL ACCEPT IT, AND THEN THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN IT AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF THE TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND.
WE HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN HERE SHOWN.
THIS IS JUST TO THE WEST OF THE EXISTING CROSS [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S JUST UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO HERE TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER.
>> JOSH BETHKE. I'M WITH COATS ROSE, ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS THE DEVELOPER.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> WHAT CARE WILL DR HORTON TAKE WHEN GOING IN IN REGARDS TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES?
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THERE'S A LOT OF TALK FROM COMMUNITY OF HOUSES THAT ARE NEIGHBORING SOME OF THE DR HORTON HOMES AND IN REGARDS TO THE DRAINAGE AND ALL OF THAT.I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT CARE WILL DR HORTON BE TAKING WHEN BUILDING THIS DEVELOPMENT IN REGARDS TO THOSE HOMES.
SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES OUT THERE ARE AGRICULTURAL, AND THE DIVERSION OF WATER COULD IMPACT THOSE PROPERTIES.
WHAT ACTIONS OR STEPS DOES DR HORTON TAKE?
>> I CAN SAY THAT DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, AS CRAIG MENTIONED, IS ANOTHER PHASE OF CROSS MILL, SO PART OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ALL CONTEMPLATED TO BE PART OF THE SAME MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT THAT'S OUT THERE, SO THEY HAVE A DIRECT BENEFIT TO TAKING THAT LEVEL OF CARE AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING IT AREN'T NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BECAUSE THEY ARE THEIR PROPERTIES AS WELL.
OTHER THAN THAT I CAN'T SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT ACTIONS THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE TAKING.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM M62025-013.
>> I'LL DO ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON?
CONSIDER APPROVING A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE NON-STANDARD WASTEWATER SERVICE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS, AND S2 LAND DEVELOPMENT LLC FOR ARBOR SOUTH AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> GOOD EVENING MR. ESCOBAR, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL.
CRAIG FISHER, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS ITEM IS SIMILAR TO THE TWO THAT PRECEDED IT.
THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING TO EXPAND THAT.
THIS IS ON THE SOUTHERN TIP OF THE PENINSULA, FAR SOUTH SIDE OF PRINCETON.
THIS PROJECT IS OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, OUTSIDE OF THE ETJ.
THEY'RE REQUESTING TO EXPAND THE EXISTING AGREEMENT TO SERVE A TOTAL OF 800 UNITS.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY UNITS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
I DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN FOR THIS ONE, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU-ALL MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS REQUEST.
>> IF THERE'S NO QUESTION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM M72025-014.
>> I'LL DO RECALL. MR. JOHNSON?
>> ITEM M82025-016, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING A JUNIOR POLICE ACADEMY/EXPLORER PROGRAM BY JAMES WATERS, CHIEF OF POLICE.
>> MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR NEWLY APPOINTED SERGEANT, SERGEANT PARRIS, HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY TONIGHT SO SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE.
SHE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT STARTED UP OUR YOUTH RISE PROGRAM WHICH IS INSIDE THE SCHOOL, AND ALSO HELP GET THE SRO PROGRAM REALLY KICKED UP AND GOING INSIDE THE SCHOOL, SO I FEEL I WOULD BE DOING A DISCREDIT IF I DIDN'T HAVE HER HERE TO REALLY HONOR HER WHILE WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT THE EXPLORER PROGRAM, EVERYTHING THAT SHE'S PUT TOGETHER.
ONE THING I'M GOING TO DO IS MOVE IT TO OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
>> I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
>> I'LL DO A ROLL CALL. MR. JOHNSON?
>> WE'VE PREVIOUSLY COVERED M9, SO THAT BRINGS US TO M102025-009, CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THESE REQUEST.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF WE CAN ADD A PRESENTATION FROM OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS, SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTION REGARDING
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THE MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE GONE INTO THE HOLIDAY EVENTS IN DECEMBER, WHERE IT IS, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT, AND MAYBE SOME UPCOMING EVENTS THAT ARE COMING TO THE CITY.>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL? WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE REPORT AGENDA. MR. [INAUDIBLE]
[N. REPORT AGENDA]
THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, JANUARY 27, 2025 AT 6:30 P.M. MAYOR THAT MOVES US TO ITEM O ADJOURNMENT.
>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> WE ADJOURN AT 10:13.
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