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>> THE TIME IS 6:31. AND THIS WILL TAKE US INTO OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
[A. CALL TO ORDER-MAYOR]
TODAY IS MARCH 10.AND WE'LL START OUR ROLL CALL. MISS DAVIS GRACE.
>> HERE. MR. JOHNSON IS OUT SICK. MR. WASHINGTON?
>> THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR INVITATION BY KELLY CARR. MISS KELLY CARR HERE.
THAT'LL TAKE US TO OUR PUBLIC APPEARANCE.
[F. PUBLIC APPEARANCE]
MISS MOODY, HAVE YOU READ THAT?>> THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS SET ASIDE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT IS NOT FORMALLY SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA AS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC MEETING APPEARANCE PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO YOU OR DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS PORTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE AN EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTLY, NOT CITY STAFF OR OTHERWISE.
SPEAKERS MUST BE COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL, AND CORDIAL, AND REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL, DEMEANING, INSULTING, THREATENING, AND OR DISPARAGING REMARKS AS TO MAINTAIN DECORUM AND SUPPORT THE EFFICIENT AND ORDERLY FLOW OF THE MEETING.
>> FIRST FOR SPEAKING IS MAXINE ELLIS.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, AND MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR LAYING ME SPEAK, MAXINE ELLIS 914 BLUEWOOD.
WITH ALL THE WIND AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED AT THE APARTMENTS.
THE FENCE ALONG 380 IS COMPLETELY DOWN.
ANYBODY IN EVERYBODY CAN GO WALKING IN AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY'VE PUT IT BACK UP, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF MAYBE YOU HAVE A CONTACT AND WE CAN GET THAT FIXED.
THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING DURING THE STRATEGIC OR THE ANNUAL, WHAT'S BEEN COMPLETED.
THERE WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PARKS AND HOW THE PARKS ARE CHANGED AND IN THE REC CENTER AND ALL OF THAT.
THERE'S A CITIZEN THAT'S POSTED ON FACEBOOK, SOME INCORRECT INFORMATION REGARDING SOME CHANGES TO IT.
IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD FROM A CITY SIDE, PUT INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT WHY THE SPLASH PAD IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SPLASH PAD, WHY IT'S GOING TO BE A SKATE PARK, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AT THE REC CENTER.
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ALSO, A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN IS THAT THERE WOULD BE A COST AT THE REC CENTER.BUT TO TRY AND MAYBE LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT THIS COST WILL BE MINIMAL, I'M ASSUMING, BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN.
PEOPLE BUDGET FOR THIS, AND WE'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH INFORMATION.
REGARDING THE TOWN HALLS THAT YOU MENTIONED IN THE WORK SESSION.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE A TOWN HALL OR AN EVENT OVER AT THE ARCADIA FARMS POOL AREA.
WE HAVE SOME CONTACTS WITH SOME GREAT FOOD TRUCKS, COFFEE TRUCKS, NO CONES, AND ALL OF THAT AND ACTUAL FOOD TRUCKS THAT WE'D LOVE, AND WE'D BE VERY HAPPY TO HOST A TOWN HALL FOR THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
>> THANK YOU. CLINTON LAWRENCE.
>> CLINTON LAWRENCE, 1304, EAST COLLEGE.
I WOULD LIKE TONIGHT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN TODD AND P&Z COMMISSIONER HISS AND ELLIS FOR THEIR EFFORTS AND FOCUS FOR DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUILDING ORDINANCES IN GENERAL.
THESE EFFORTS HAVE NOT GONE UNNOTICED.
PLEASE KEEP IT UP AND DO NOT ASSUME THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS AND DO NOT ASSUME THE ENGINEERS AND BUREAUCRATS AROUND HERE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THE PROPER REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE DONE TO CODE AND BY CITY ORDINANCES.
ANYWAYS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
>> THANK YOU. IS ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC APPEARANCE RIGHT NOW? I THINK THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
[G. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
MISS MOODY. I'M SORRY.>> ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST FOR TODAY, MARCH 10, 2025.
REGISTRATION FOR FLAG AND TACKLE FOOTBALL AND CHEER LEADING FOR THE FALL SEASON ENDS ON MAY 31.
CHECK OUT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION TO SIGN UP.
AGAIN, REGISTRATION FOR FLAG AND TACKLE FOOTBALL AND CHEERLEADING FOR THE FALL SEASON ENDS ON MAY 31ST.
CHECK OUT THE PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION AND TO SIGN UP.
L EARN ABOUT THE LIFE CYCLE OF PLANTS AT THE LIBRARY STORY TIME ON MARCH 12, AT 10:30 A.M. JOIN US FOR OUR COZY AND RELAXING CROCHET KNITTING CLUB AT THE LIBRARY ON MARCH 24, FROM 4:00-6:00 P.M.
WHETHER YOU ARE A BEGINNER OR AN EXPERIENCED CRAFTER, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH OTHERS.
SHARE YOUR PROJECTS AND LEARN NEW TECHNIQUES.
ALL AGES AND SKILL LEVELS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND, REGISTER AT THE LIBRARY'S WEBSITE.
THE CITY OF PRINCETON IS HOSTING A DAY OF PURPOSE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE VFW 9167 AND THE PRINCETON LORIE CROSSING CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON SATURDAY, MAY 3RD, FROM 8 AM- 4 PM.
THE PRINCETON DAY OF PURPOSE WILL FEATURE ACTIVITIES TO ADDRESS LOCAL NEEDS WHILE FOSTERING UNITY.
LEARN MORE AND SIGN UP ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
THIS CONCLUDES THE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
>> I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT UP.
THE STRATEGIC RETREAT, WE CHANGED IT TO JUST THE ONE DAY, AND IT WILL BE HERE ON 29 OF MARCH, STARTING AT 7:30 AM-5:00 PM.
IT'LL BE ONE DAY HERE IN PRINCETON.
MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR OUR STRATEGIC RETREAT.
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THAT WILL TAKE US TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, MISS MOODY.[H. CONSENT AGENDA]
>> ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER SO REQUESTS, IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA.
>> YOUR HONOR, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT?
>> LET'S DO A RECALL. MISS DAVIS GRACE?
>> ITEM PASSES. WE WILL NOT BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE.
GRANT, WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE.
WE COVERED EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.
>> THERE ARE NO ACTIONS PERTAINING TO EXECUTIVE.
THAT WILL MOVE US TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. MISS MOODY.
[K1. 2025-072 Discussion and presentation of a Summary of the Approved and Created Eastridge Public Improvement District and Plan of Finance for the Issuance of Improvement Area #4 Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025. Presentation by Jim Sabonis with Hilltop Securities.]
DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF A SUMMARY OF THE APPROVED AND CREATED EAST RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND PLAN OF FINANCE FOR THE ISSUANCE OF IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4, SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS, SERIES 2025, PRESENTATION BY JIM SABONIS WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCILMEN.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITIZENS OF PRINCETON.
I AM WITH A TEAM OF FINANCIAL ADVISORS FROM HILLTOP THAT SERVICE FINANCIAL ADVISORS OF THE CITY.
OUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES ARE HELPING THE CITY IN ALL ITS ASPECTS RELATED TO DEBT ISSUANCE, INVESTMENTS, AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS TO THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE RECENT BOND ELECTION PROCESS WE'RE INVOLVED IN, THE UPGRADE TO THE DOUBLE A+.
BUT ONE OF THOSE PROCESSES THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN IS HELPING THE CITY WHEN IT MOVES FORWARD WITH THE ISSUANCE OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS.
WE HAVE THREE GOALS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT WE OPERATE ON AND WHEN WE ACT AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR.
THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE PROPOSED BOND ISSUE IS COMPLIANT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE.
ALL THE CONSTRAINTS AND REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT.
SECOND IS TO USE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE'RE AWARE OF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ISOLATE THE CITY FROM ANY FINANCIAL LIABILITY FOR THAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT BOND.
THE THIRD IS ONCE THOSE THINGS ARE IN PLACE, TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE AS EFFICIENTLY AND COST EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE PROJECT BEST CHANCE OF SUCCESS IN GOING FORWARD.
ON THE EASTRIDGE PROJECT, IS ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT THE CITY HAS ACTUALLY DONE, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT PHASE 4.
THE PROJECT ACTUALLY WAS APPROVED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN 2020, AND IT WAS AMENDED IN 2021.
THE FIRST BOND ISSUE WAS DONE IN 2022 TO FUND THE FIRST PHASE OF THE ISSUANCE.
THAT PROJECT WAS ABSORBED QUICKLY.
THE SECOND PHASE WAS DONE IN JULY OF 2023.
THE THIRD PHASE WAS ACTUALLY ISSUED AND FUNDED IN AUGUST OF 2024.
NOW WE'RE HERE, AND THE DEVELOPERS ASKED US BECAUSE THEY'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FOURTH PHASE.
OVERALL, THE PROJECT IS 547 ACRES.
ULTIMATELY, A BUILD OUT APPROXIMATELY 2,348 FAMILY RESIDENCES.
THE BUILDOUT WILL BE ABOUT 880 MILLION OF TAXABLE VALUE AT THE CITY'S CURRENT AD VALOREM TAX RATE, IT'LL GENERATE ABOUT 3.5 MILLION AND ANNUAL AD VALOREM TAXES.
IT HAS AN 80% MAXIMUM GROSS TAX EQUIVALENT ASSESSMENT RATE, AND THAT PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE ETJ OF THE CITY.
PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS, THE DEVELOPER IS CONSIDERED AN ETJ MUD.
THE CITY NEGOTIATED AND DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO COME INTO THE CITY LIMITS TO GENERATE SOME REVENUE.
AS PART OF THE INCENTIVE, THEY PROVIDED A 45% TOURS BASED TO OFFSET THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT RATE.
THE PROJECT OVERALL WILL GENERATE 4.2 MILLION OF PID FEES, $1,800 PER RESIDENT PAID BY DEVELOPER SIMULTANEOUSLY AT THE CLOSING OF EACH PHASE BOND ISSUE.
AS I INDICATED, WE'VE ISSUED BONDS FOR PHASE 1, 2, AND 3.
IMPROVEMENT AREA 4 IS GOING TO BE
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ABOUT 379 LOTS 40 AND 50 FRONT FOOT SIZE WITH A TOTAL BUILDOUT, EXPECTED ABOUT 150 MILLION.AT OUR CURRENT TAX RATES IS GOING TO GENERATE ABOUT 661,000 IN VALOREM.
OUR 45% TOURS WILL ACTUALLY AT THE CURRENT RATE, ALLOCATE $296,000 TO OFFSET THE ASSESSMENT RATES RESULTING ABOUT $364,000 COMING TO THE CITY.
AT THE CLOSING OF THIS BOND ISSUE, THE DEVELOPER SIMULTANEOUSLY WILL PAY A PID FEE OF $682,000 TO THE CITY.
>> AS I INDICATED, THIS IS ONE OF OUR ORIGINAL PURIST PROJECTS.
I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS WHOLE PROCESS AS THE MUDS, DEVELOPERS PURCHASED LARGE TRACTS OF PROPERTY, WE'RE EVALUATING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS.
WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF STEPS TO GO FORWARD, AND IT'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT PREVIOUSLY.
IF YOU TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, TONIGHT I'M MAKING A PRESENTATION.
LATER ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION OF A DRAFT SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, WHICH PRESENTS THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE FUNDED WITH THE ASSESSMENTS, THE ASSESSMENT LEVY AND LIEN THAT WOULD WE PUT ON EACH HOME, AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS ALLOCATED.
IT'S A DRAFT SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN BECAUSE IT ANTICIPATES ON A CONSERVATIVE BASIS WHAT IT WILL BE.
IT WOULD BE FINALIZED AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE PRICING OF THE BONDS IN MARCH.
YOU'LL RECEIVE AND YOU'LL ACTUALLY HAVE CALL A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PUBLIC TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION ON MARCH 24, RESPECTING TO PRICE OF BONDS DURING THE DAY, PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE PRICING TO YOU THAT EVENING.
THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN WILL BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE ACTUAL FINAL PRICING OF THOSE NUMBERS.
THERE WILL BE AN ORDINANCE LEVYING ASSESSMENTS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT AREA, THEN ORDINANCE ACTUALLY AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
THE STATE OF TEXAS, OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL REVIEWS AND APPROVES ALL BOND ISSUES BY MUNICIPALITIES.
YOU WILL REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 15 WORK DAYS TO DO THAT.
IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES IT AND EXECUTES THE DOCUMENTS WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND WE EXPECT APRIL 22ND WOULD BE THE CLOSING AND SIMULTANEOUS FUNDING OF THE PID FEE TO THE CITY.
CURRENTLY, BASED ON OUR CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS, WE EXPECT THE PAR AMOUNT BONDS TO BE ABOUT 15.2 MILLION AND THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE STRUCTURED UNDER OUR BEST PRACTICES.
THERE WILL BE A CAPITALIZED INTEREST FUND FOR ONE YEAR, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A DEBT SERVICE RESERVE.
THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE WILL BE PUT IN PLACE JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY DELINQUENCIES IN THE PROJECT.
STANDARD COSTS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
BASED ON TODAY'S MARKET, WE'D EXPECT ABOUT A 5.7% INTEREST RATE.
TOTAL PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST OVER THE LIFE OF ISSUE WOULD BE ABOUT 32.2 MILLION.
AVERAGE ANNUAL PRINCIPAL INTEREST WOULD BE ABOUT 1,160,000.
THE AVERAGE ANNUAL PRINCIPAL INTEREST PER PARCEL WILL BE ABOUT $3,061.
THERE WILL BE A LIEN ON EACH PARCEL OF ABOUT $40,245.
THE APPROVAL DATE, AGAIN, WE INDICATE MARCH 24TH, CLOSING DATE ON THE 22ND. SOME IMPORTANT THINGS.
I THINK FOR COUNSEL, THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS WHAT THE ASSESSMENTS WOULD BE AND BASED ON THE CURRENT PRIMARY SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN.
THERE WILL BE A GROSS LEVY OF $2,997 FOR EACH 40' LOT.
IT'S BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION AND BUILD OUT OF $375,000.
WE'LL HAVE THE TOURS OFFSET OF $741 AND THE NET LEVY THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE PUT ON THE TAX BILL FOR THE HOMEOWNER, WOULD BE ABOUT $2,256 PER YEAR OR AN EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT 60.2 TAX EQUIVALENT RATE FOR THE ASSESSMENT.
TOTAL NET LEVY THAT THEY EXPECT OVER THE 30 YEARS WILL BE OUT $67,000.
THE 50' LOTS, WE'LL HAVE EXPECTED BUILD OUT OF 420,000.
THEIR GROSS LEVY WILL BE ABOUT $3,357, OFFSET BY $830 TIRZ ALLOCATION,
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GIVING A NET LEVY OF $2,526 OR A TAX EQUIVALENT RATE OF 60.2 ALSO, TOTAL NET LEVY ABOUT 30 FOR THE 30 YEARS WILL BE A $75,800.THE AVERAGE ASSESSMENT LIEN PER LOT OF 40,245, BASED ON THE APPRAISAL THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE LAND WOULD HAVE A LEVERAGE AT BONDAGE OF ABOUT 2.0.
IN SUMMARY, THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED A CREDIT WORTHY TRANSACTION.
WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN AND BEEN INVOLVED WITH OTHER OUR CITY CLIENTS WHICH REACH AN DEVELOPMENT.
WE'D EXPECT THIS TO BE WELL RECEIVED IN THE MARKETPLACE, AND ITSELF TO BE AN EFFICIENT TRANSACTION.
AS I INDICATED PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'VE REVIEWED THIS AND IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ALL THE CONSTRAINTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND WE BELIEVE THAT TRANSACTION IS THE STATE OF ART ON HOW A PID SHOULD BE STRUCTURED FOR A CITY, ISOLATED FROM FINANCIAL RISK, A REPAYMENT OF THE PID BONDS, AND I KNOW THE MEMBERS OF FINANCE TEAM BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SUCCESSFUL OFFERING.
WITH THAT, IT CONCLUDES MY PREPARED COMMENTS.
I'D ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION I CAN AT THIS TIME.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
STARTING WITH WHAT EXACTLY IS BEING DISCLOSED TO THE HOME BUYERS ABOUT THIS.
WHAT DOCUMENTATION ARE WE GIVING TO RESIDENTS WHO ARE PURCHASING THESE HOMES SO THAT THEY'RE EDUCATED AND WHAT THEY'RE ACCEPTING BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PERSON WHO BUYS A 40' LOT IS PAYING $7,672 ON TOP OF THEIR MORTGAGE FOR THAT HOME.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE WELL EDUCATED WHEN THEY'RE PURCHASING THAT HOME AND WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE TAKING ON AND DOES THIS HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE HOMESTEAD? BECAUSE I SAW IN ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS, THERE'S COMMENTARY ABOUT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
I WANT TO KNOW, DO THESE PIDS IMPACT THOSE RESIDENTS ABILITIES TO HAVE THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER.
TWO THINGS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THEM IN THE ORDER.
I'LL TAKE THEM IN REVERSE ORDER, THAT THE ASSESSMENT SHOULD NOT IMPACT THE HOMESTEAD.
I BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU MAY HAVE REFERRED TO, THERE'S EXTENSIVE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT THERE IS A HOMESTEAD EXTENSION AND THAT THE PID IS PUT IN PLACE BEFORE THE HOMESTEAD TO ALLOW IT TO HAVE A VALID LIEN.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THE PID LIEN IS PUT IN PLACE WHEN THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, THE ASSESSMENTS ARE LEVIED, THOSE BONDS ARE ISSUED.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PRIOR LIEN TO THE HOMESTEAD EXTENSION, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A CREDIT WORTHY PROCESS AND TO BE TREATED SIMILAR TO TAXES.
WHEN THE ASSESSMENTS PUT IN PLACE BEFORE THE HOMESTEAD, AND THIS IS WHAT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE OFFERING DOCUMENT.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW IS THAT WHEN A BILL GOES OUT, YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL TAX, A BILL, AND YOU PAY TAXES AND YOU PAY ASSESSMENTS AND PROPERLY CONSTRUCTED.
THE ASSESSMENTS ARE LEVIED PRIOR TO A HOMEOWNER TAKING POSSESSION OF THE HOME AND ACTUALLY HAVING THE HOMESTEAD.
IF THERE'S NON PAYMENT OF ASSESSMENT IS TREATED LIKE NON PAYMENT OF TAX, THERE CAN BE FORECLOSURE AND PROCESSES WHERE THE HOMESTEAD IS IN PLACE, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS, THEY MAY NOT ISSUE BONDS FOR THOSE AMOUNT DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT BECAUSE NO FORECLOSURE POTENTIAL ABILITY.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR HOW IT AFFECTS THE HOMESTEAD, DOESN'T AFFECT THE EXEMPTION THAT YOU RECEIVE FROM THE CITY.
BUT IT IS PRIOR TO THE HOME BEING PUT IN PLACE PRIOR TO HOMES THAT IT ALLOWS FOR NONPAYMENT FOR FORECLOSURE SIMILAR TO A TAX.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THAT ASPECT OF IT? THEN, AS FAR AS DISCLOSURE, TWO ASPECTS, I THINK, CONTROL DISCLOSURE.
THERE'S BEEN RECENT STATE LEGISLATION REQUIRING DISCLOSURE.
THEN IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ITSELF, IT INDICATES THE TYPE OF DISCLOSURE.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK IN GENERALITIES, AND I KNOW THAT THE LAWYER FOR THE DEVELOPER IS HERE, AND HE CAN EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE DONE, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNS INDICATING THE ENTRY INTO THE DISTRICT.
THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN ALL THE LITERATURE AND MARKET MATERIALS IN THE SALES OFFICE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CLEAR.
DISCLOSURE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE ASSESSMENTS, BOTH THE LEVY AND LIEN THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT INFORMATION ALSO IS PUT INTO
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ANY SALES DOCUMENTS SO THEY CAN BE CAUGHT BY THE ESCROW COMPANY AND THE MORTGAGE COMPANY WHEN THEY GO FORWARD.YET, THE FACT IS SOMEBODY JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT AND SOLD THE HOME, YOU GET A LOT OF DOCTORS YOU ASSIGN THEM.
BUT THERE IS AN ACTIVE PROCESS WHERE THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE ALL THAT MATERIALS PUT IN PLACE.
AGAIN, I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS SOME REPRESENTATIVES HERE.
I'D ASKED THEM TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE REQUEST THAT THEY DO THOSE THINGS TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW FOR US, SO HOMEOWNERS HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
>> HOW RECENT IS IT THAT IT'S REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THIS TO RESIDENTS? THAT'S QUESTION 1.
QUESTION 2, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IN THE GIANT PACKET THAT A HOMEOWNER GETS TO SIGN FOR THEIR HOUSE, THAT'S WHERE WE SQUEEZE IT IN THERE.
HEY, BY THE WAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS EXTRA FEE.
THERE'S NOT, LIKE, A SEPARATE CLEAR PAMPHLET, SOMETHING EDUCATIONAL, THAT'S CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
WE'RE JUST SQUEEZING IT IN THERE IN THE PACKET OF PAPERS?
>> WELL, THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION, THOUGH.
AGAIN, I'D ASK THEIR ATTORNEY COME UP AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT BY PRACTICE, AGAIN, ALL THE MARKET MATERIAL SHOULD ACTUALLY INDICATE THAT THERE'S AND INDICATE THAT INFORMATION, AND IT SHOULD BE INDICATED, AND THERE SHOULD BE AN AFFIDAVIT THAT THEY SIGN INDICATING THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ASSESSMENT AND THAT THIS LIEN WILL BE PUT IN PLACE.
ROSS, MAY WE CAN EXPLAIN EXACTLY.
>> MAYOR COUNSEL, ROSS MARTIN WITH WINSTEAD PC LAW FIRM REPRESENTING BOTH GREEN BRICK PARTNERS AND BRIGHT LN HOMES ON THE PITS YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THIS EVENING.
THE NOTICE TO PURCHASER HAS A FEW COMPONENTS.
ONE IS THAT THERE ARE ALL THE SALESPEOPLE ARE TRAINED AND DISCUSSED TO TALK WITH HOME BUYERS ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT.
SECONDLY, THEY RECEIVE NOTICE OF THE PID ASSESSMENT AT THE TIME OF CONTRACT.
IT IS REQUIRED BY LAW THAT THEY RECEIVE A SEPARATE DOCUMENT, NOT A LINE ITEM SOMEWHERE, A SEPARATE DOCUMENT THAT DESCRIBES THE AMOUNT OF THE ASSESSMENT THAT THE ASSESSMENT WILL BE LEVIED, AND THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, BOTH AT THE TIME THE CONTRACT IS PROVIDED AND AT CLOSING, SO THEY GET TWO NOTICES.
AS WE'VE ALL WORKED ON PIDS OVER THE YEARS, IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THAT ASSESSMENT WILL BE IN PLACE, AND THAT'LL BE A PART OF THEIR OBLIGATION GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE IT'S ON THEIR TAX BILL, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER, IT'S JUST A LINE ITEM ON THEIR TAX BILL, BUT EVERYONE HAS TO KNOW ABOUT IT FOR THEIR MORTGAGE SERVICING.
ALSO, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THAT GOING FORWARD, SO EVERYONE GOES INTO IT INFORMED.
>> WOULD YOU MIND EMAILING ME WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, THAT DOCUMENT THAT THEY'RE GETTING?
>> YES, WE CAN EMAIL YOU THE NOTICES.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT JUST TO SEE THE LANGUAGE AND EVERYTHING THAT'S EMBEDDED IN THERE.
>> IT'S STATUTORY. IN THE PROPERTY CODE, IT'S REQUIRED FOR THAT NOTICE TO GO OUT, AND THE LANGUAGE THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE IN THAT IS ALSO PRESCRIBED.
BUT THEY HAVE THEM PREPARED FOR THE EASTRIDGE PID.
THE RESIDENTS IN THE PRIOR IMPROVEMENT AREA RECEIVE THESE, THE RESIDENTS IN THE FUTURE IMPROVEMENT AREAS WILL RECEIVE IT, AND I'LL SEND YOU THE FORM OF THE TWO NOTICES.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
NEXT, CITY CLERK ANSWERED IT FOR ME, BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
SHALL I WAIT TIL K4 ASKED THIS QUESTION?
>> I'LL WAIT FOR THAT ONE. I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION THEN.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN I ASK YOU ONE MORE THING? THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEYS HERE, I'D ASK HIM THE ANSWER.
THE STANDARD TEXAS REAL ESTATE CONTRACT FOR A SALE HOME IS SUPPOSED TO INDICATE WHETHER IT'S IN A PID OR NOT AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
YOU MIGHT COMMENT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING THE NOTICES THAT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY WERE THE ORIGINAL SALE, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S SECONDARY NOTICES PUT IN PLACE IN THE SALE.
WOULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT ROSS?
>> THERE'S A NOTICE THAT'S PROVIDED AT CONTRACT.
THERE'S A NOTICE THAT'S PROVIDED AT CLOSING.
THERE'S ALSO AS JIM NOTES, IN THE STANDARD TEXAS REAL ESTATE CONTRACT, THERE'S A SEPARATE LINE ITEM THAT YOU CHECK AS TO WHAT TYPE OF SPECIAL DISTRICT YOU'RE IN, WHETHER THAT'S A MUD OR A PID,
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THAT'S NOTED THERE AS WELL.THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SEE AND KNOW THAT THAT'S PUT IN PLACE.
>> I GUESS FOR YOUR PROCESS, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH TO THE CITY, SINCE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS HAPPEN ON THESE THINGS IN ADVANCE PRIOR TO US BEING HERE, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO COPY THAT ON, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME IN THE FUTURE SO I CAN READ THAT AND SEE WHAT WE AGREED TO?
>> YOU WANT THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO IT?
>> WHEN WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE'RE VOTING ON THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS DONE YEARS PRIOR.
IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF IT WAS ATTACHED SO WE CAN READ IT AND SEE WHAT WAS VOTED ON PRIOR TO US COMING UP HERE.
BUT WITH THAT, IN THE PROCESS, IT WAS STATING HERE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T FULLY COMPLETED, BUT WE'RE RELEASING FUNDS.
HOW'S THAT? SHOULD IT BE COMPLETED BEFORE RELEASE OF THE FUNDS?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S THIS LINE ITEM.
>> THIS IS ALL WE'RE RELEASING MONEY FOR.
YEAH, NO, WE'RE RELEASING MONEY FOR THIS ONE, K1? HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE PROCESS OF WHEN WE'RE RELEASING THE PID MONEY AND ALL OF THAT AND WHAT'S BEEN PREPARED PRIOR TO, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN IT, THAT'D BE CORRECT.
>> NO. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF HOW THESE TRANSACTIONS ARE STRUCTURED.
FIRST OF ALL, THE PRIMARY SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN, THEN THE FINAL SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN WILL INDICATE EXACTLY WHAT THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE FUNDED ARE INCLUDED.
AS YOU MOVE FORWARD AND YOU THINK ABOUT HOW A ROAD IS CONSTRUCTED, WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IS THAT WELL, LET ME SAY AT CLOSING, THE MONEY DOESN'T GO TO THE DEVELOPER AND IT GOES TO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT CONTROLLED BY THE CITY.
THE TRUST INDENTURE INDICATES A VERY FORMAL PROCESS WHERE THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETE A PORTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INSPECTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.
AT THAT TIME, THEY CAN SUBMIT A BILL, THEIR ENGINEER WOULD SIGN OFF ON THE BILL AND SAY, THIS WAS TO BE DONE BY LICENSED ENGINEER.
IT'D BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY WHOSE THEIR INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL ENGINEERS WOULD LOOK AT AND SIGN OFF ON IT, THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT, THE CITY'S ASSESSMENT CONSULTANT WHO WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, THIS IS AN ELIGIBLE COST.
THE COST IS REASONABLE BASED ON WHAT OUR SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN IS, AND AFTER ALL THOSE PROCESS, THEN IT CAN ACTUALLY BE PAID.
IT'S PAID MAYBE ON A MONTHLY BASIS BASED ON COMPLETED AND ACCEPTED ASSETS.
NOT MUCH TO BEGIN WITH, BUT IT BULGES AS YOU COMPLETE THE PROCESS.
BUT THE PROCESS ITSELF WITH THE ESCROW ENSURES THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOES GET BUILT, AND THE MONEY'S NOT USED INAPPROPRIATELY.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE HANDING MONEY BACK OVER TO DEVELOPERS, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT QUESTION OF, LIKE, WHERE'S THIS MONEY COMING FROM? BEING CLEAR THAT IT'S AN ESCROW WHERE THAT MONEY'S BEING HELD UNTIL IT'S COMPLETED, THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR THIS ONE.
>> IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM? THERE'S NO ACTION TO TAKE ON THIS ITEM, SO WE CAN MOVE TO K2.
[K2. 2025-03-10-R Consider approving a resolution determining costs and calling a public hearing to consider an ordinance levying assessments on property located within the Eastridge Public Improvement District; directing the publication and mailing of notice of such public hearing; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION, DETERMINING COSTS, AND CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE, LEVYING ASSESSMENTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE EAST RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION AND MAILING OF NOTICE OF SUCH PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION PRESENTED BY JEFF GULBAS.
>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
JEFF GULBAS WITH MCCALL PARKERSON, HORTON, WE SERVE AS THE BOND COUNSEL FOR THE CITY, SO WE REPRESENT YOU ALL IN CONNECTION WITH THESE TRANSACTIONS.
THE ITEM BEFORE US IS ITEM 1 UP HERE ON THE SIDE, WE ARE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN FOR THE EASTRIDGE TIRZ, WHICH IS TIRZ NUMBER 3, AND CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF BACKGROUND.
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I ALWAYS WANT TO START WITH A SLIDE EXPLAINING THE DEVELOPMENT.OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE DEALING WITH EAST RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
LIKE ALL THE OTHERS, THIS DOES HAVE A TIRZ OVERLAID ON THAT DISTRICT.
WE'VE SOLD BONDS AS YOU HEARD EARLIER ON PHASES 1-3 AND WE DO HAVE A PROPOSED BOND SALE IN TWO WEEKS FOR PHASE 4.
YOU'VE HEARD IN PRIOR MEETINGS WHAT THE PURPOSE FOR THESE TIRZ ARE.
TIRZ CAN BE USED FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
IN PRINCETON, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THE INCREMENT THAT IS GENERATED AS THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES IN THE TIRZ IS USED TO PAY DOWN THE ASSESSMENTS.
THAT'S WHAT MR. SABONIS WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER, THAT THAT 45% REVENUE THAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE INCREASED GROWTH IS USED TO KEEP THOSE ASSESSMENTS DOWN.
THE PURPOSE FOR THAT IS TO STRIVE TO KEEP THE ASSESSMENTS LEVEL INCOMMENSURATE WITH SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS.
AGAIN, WE'VE CREATED THE TIRZ OVER EASTRIDGE AS EACH NEW PHASE COMES ONLINE.
A SUB-ZONE IS CREATED OVER THAT IMPROVEMENT AREA.
WE'RE DEALING WITH IMPROVEMENT AREA 4 HERE, WHICH WILL BE THE FOURTH SUB-ZONE WITHIN THAT.
AS FAR AS THE LEGAL PROCESS, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THIRTY360, WHICH IS THE CITY'S PID ADMINISTRATOR.
THE LEGAL PROCESS ON THIS IS REALLY FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THIS RESOLUTION IS CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR THE 24TH.
I'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NOTICE IS GIVEN BY THE TIME REQUIRED.
UNDER THE TIRZ STATUTE, SO THAT WE'LL BE GOING OUT THIS THURSDAY.
AGAIN, THE PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT IS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKETS, THESE ARE VERY COMPLEX DOCUMENTS, THEY'RE VERY DETAILED DOCUMENTS, BUT IT IS SIMPLY TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW SEE THEM IN ADVANCE, SO WE WILL BE BACK ON THE 24TH TO ASK FOR FORMAL APPROVAL BY BOTH THE TIRZ BOARD, AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL.
THAT IS THE END OF THAT SLIDE.
THAT EXPLAINS THE LEGAL PROCESS.
LIKE I SAID, IF YOU HAVE DETAILED QUESTIONS ON THE PLANS THEMSELVES ON THE TIRZ, MITCH MOSES BEN WITH THIRTY360 IS HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL.
>> THIS IS PROBABLY THE TOUGH QUESTION FOR THE ROOM, BUT I THINK IT'S THE ONE THAT THE PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR.
THESE PIDS, WE SAY THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT WHAT REALLY IS THE OPTION HERE BECAUSE TO MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN THESE AGREEMENTS WERE MADE, IS THERE REALLY A VOTE TO BE HAVING HERE?
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE REQUIRED TO GIVE SEVEN DAYS NOTICE.
WE HAVE THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZE, WHICH REALLY ALL IT SAYS IS AUTHORIZE THE GIVING OF THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
ABSOLUTELY, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD, AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THOSE ITEMS ON THE 24TH, WHICH IS PROCEED WITH THIS TIRZ DEVELOPMENT AND PROCEED WITH THE LEVY OF ASSESSMENT.
>> HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THE PEOPLE VOICE THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT, AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WHAT ARE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THAT?
>> SURE. YOU WOULD LOOK BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, OBVIOUSLY, THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS IS IN THE LEGISLATIVE DISCRETION OF Y'ALL.
ONE COUNCIL THAT APPROVE SOMETHING CAN'T BIND FUTURE COUNCILS.
THAT'S A BASIC TENET IN TEXAS LAW.
YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE DISCRETION TO NOT MOVE FORWARD.
OBVIOUSLY, THE NEXT QUESTION BECOMES, WHAT ARE THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS? DEVELOPER IS NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY, BUT THE DEVELOPERS STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO BE REPAID FOR THEIR COSTS OF DEVELOPMENT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
THE PIDS IN THE PID STATUTE HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME.
WE USED TO DO WHAT WERE SIMPLE REIMBURSEMENTS, WHERE DEVELOPERS WOULD LEVY ASSESSMENTS AND THEY WOULD BE PAID OVER 30 YEAR PERIOD FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY CONSTRUCTED.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH REALLY LOW INTEREST RATES, THE ABILITY TO GET MONEY UP FRONT, THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO ISSUE BONDS AND BE ABLE TO GET THAT MONEY AT THE OUTSET.
NOT MY PREFERENCE, BUT I'M JUST EXPLAINING THE OPTIONS.
I JUST KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME PUBLIC COMMENTARY ABOUT PIDS, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THAT DID GET TURNED DOWN, WHAT MURKY WATERS THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW BOTH OUTCOMES, AND IT NEEDS, WITH THE TRANSPARENCY, IF WE SAY YES, IF WE SAY NO, WHAT HAPPENS IN BOTH SCENARIOS SO THAT WHEN WE MAKE OUR DECISION, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE ON FACEBOOK,
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AND WE WANT THEM TO HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE VOTING THE WAY THAT WE VOTE.>> YES, MA'AM. I WOULD SAY, THAT'S CERTAINLY, LIKE I SAID, IN YOU ALL'S DISCRETION AS A GOVERNING BODY, BE A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY AND MYSELF, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HAVE THOSE, OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE RAMIFICATIONS FOR THOSE DECISIONS.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD YOU'LL HAVE MANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, AND THEY ALL ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT HERE AND THERE.
BUT AGAIN, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE WHEN THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE BEING PREPARED, THAT THE DEVELOPER IN THE CITIES UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT ON FUTURE COUNSEL'S WILLS AND FUTURE COUNSEL DESIRES.
WE DON'T EVER COMMIT AND SAY THE CITY SHALL OR WILL OR COMMIT TO DOING SOMETHING.
>> YOUR HONOR, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K2.
2025-03-10-R, APPROVED OF A RESOLUTION DETERMINING COSTS AND CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I HAVE THE ROLL CALL. MISS DAVIS GRACE?
>> MOTION PASSES. THAT TAKE US TO K3.
[K3. 2025-03-10-R02 Consider approving a resolution proposing amendments to the project plan and financing plan for Reinvestment Zone Number Three, City of Princeton, Texas; calling a public hearing; providing an effective date; and resolving other matters related thereto; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION, PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO THE PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCING PLAN FOR REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 3, CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS, CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TO AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION, PRESENTED BY JEFF GULBAS.
>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I WAS ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE WHILE I HAVE A COMMON PRESENTATION, SO IT COVERS EVERYTHING, MY PRIOR CONVERSATION WAS REALLY RELATED TO THE TIRZ.
BUT AGAIN, SINCE IT WAS ALL ON THE SLIDES AND I COVERED IT, AS WELL, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? I GUESS THE MEMO AND THE DOCUMENTS ARE UP THERE.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT EVERYTHING I EXPLAINED IS ACTUALLY RELATED TO THIS ITEM.
BUT EVERYTHING I'M GOING TO SAY WAS ALSO ON THAT SLIDE AND IN THAT MEMO. IS THAT OKAY? AGAIN, NOW WE ARE, WHICH I WENT THROUGH EARLIER DISCUSSING THE FINANCING PLAN. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
BOTH OF THESE ACTION ITEMS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE NEXT ON WESTRIDGE RELATE TO THE GIVING OF NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE GIVE NOTICE OF TIRZ PLAN AMENDMENTS, WHICH IS THE TIRZ HAS DISCUSSED.
AS YOU HEARD FROM MR. SABONIS EARLIER, WE ARE ALSO GIVING NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE LEVELING OF ASSESSMENTS.
BOTH OF THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HELD ON THE 24TH.
AT THAT MEETING, YOU WILL BE PRESENTED WITH AN ITEM TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLANS, WHICH ARE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET THIS EVENING.
YOU'LL ALSO BE GIVEN AN AGENDA ITEM TO APPROVE THE ASSESSMENT ROLES, WHICH ARE ALSO IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET THIS EVENING IN PRELIMINARY FORM AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK ON THE 24TH ON A BOND SALE WITH A BOND ORDINANCE AND QUITE A BIT MORE DETAIL THAT GOES WITH THAT.
I APOLOGIZE FOR MY DISCUSSION ON MIXING THEM UP, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
>> CAN WE GO AHEAD AND MOTION?
>> LET'S DO ROLL CALL. MISS DAVIS GRACE?
>> MOTION PASSES. THAT WILL TAKE US TO K4.
[K4. 2025-073 Discussion and presentation of a Summary of the Approved and Created Westridge Public Improvement District and Plan of Finance for the Issuance of Improvement Area #1 Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025. Presentation by Jim Sabonis with Hilltop Securities.]
>> ITEM K4.2025-073, DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF A SUMMARY OF THE APPROVED AND CREATED WESTRIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT AND PLAN OF FINANCE FOR THE ISSUANCE OF IMPROVEMENT AREA ONE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2025, PRESENTATION BY JIM SABONIS WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, JIM SABONIS WITH HILLTOP.
WESTRIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS A PROJECT THAT WAS CONCEIVED ABOUT THE SAME TIME THAT EASTRIDGE WAS PUT IN PLACE.
IN FACT, THERE'S THREE PROJECTS, AND THE PROPERTIES WERE ALL PRETTY MUCH ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER.
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WESTRIDGE, SOUTHRIDGE, AND EASTRIDGE.THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF 2020.
IT ACTUALLY HAS THE SAME EXACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS AS EASTRIDGE, BUT IN THE PHASE 1 IMPROVEMENT AREA, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ISSUANCE WHERE THEY HAVE.
THE ACTUAL PID WAS CREATED IN APRIL OF 2022.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE, WESTRIDGE OVERALL IS 252 ACRES, AND IT WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE 1,101 HOMES, JUST UNDER HALF A BILLION IN TAX ASSESSED VALUE AT BUILDOUT, $2 MILLION OF TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE AT THE CURRENT VALOREM TAX RATE.
IT ALSO HAS AN 80% MAXIMUM TAX EQUIVALENT ASSESSMENT RATE WITH THE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF 45% TIRZ CONTRIBUTION TO PAY DOWN THAT 80 CENT TAX RATE TO JUST UNDER $0.60.
IT ALSO HAS A $1,800 PID FEE TO BE PAID TO THE CITY AT THE CLOSING OF EACH PHASE OF ISSUANCE.
OVERALL, IT GENERATE ABOUT $2 MILLION IN PID FEES.
PHASE 1 REPRESENTS A 271 LOTS.
IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, UNIQUELY, IT'S INTERESTING THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN IN EASTRIDGE.
THE TOTAL 271 HOME WILL HAVE A BUILDOUT OF JUST UNDER $120 MILLION, GENERATING ABOUT OVER $500,000 AFTER THE TIRZ AMOUNT, ABOUT $288,000 FOR THE PROJECT.
JUST AS A SIDE ISSUE, THE LAST ITEM, THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT FOLLOWED UP, AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN IT, AND I'LL USE IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS AND THAT WHEN THERE'S A PID, WE LEVY THE ASSESSMENTS, AND WE INDICATE THAT THERE'S A TIRZ OFFSET.
THERE HAS TO BE A TIRZ PLAN PUT IN PLACE.
THE TIRZ PLAN ACTUALLY ALMOST IDENTICAL CAPITAL ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE PID PLAN THAT ALLOWS THE MONEY GENERATED BY THAT TIRZ TO REDUCE THE PID ASSESSMENTS.
WHAT TAKES PLACE IS THAT EARLY ON, WHEN WE HAD THESE LARGE PROJECTS, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH GRANT AND JEFF ABOUT WHAT'S THE EFFICIENT WAY TO DO A TIRZ, AND THE THOUGHT WAS THERE WERE SOME PREVIOUS OR OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT MIGHT HAVE HAD A TIRZ PER PHASE, WHICH MEANT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE EIGHT OR NINE TIRZ BOARD MEETINGS.
EVERYONE HAD A DIFFERENT TIRZ BOARD, AND WE FOUND THAT IT WAS MORE EFFICIENT IF YOU HAD ONE TIRZ FOR EACH PROJECT, AND THEN YOU JUST MODIFIED THE TIRZ PLAN OF THAT PROJECT FOR THE NEXT PHASE.
WHY THAT WAS IMPORTANT IS THAT THE FIRST PHASE IS DONE AND IT HAS A 30 YEAR LIFE, THAT TIRZ OVER THAT FIRST PHASE HAS A 30 YEAR LIFE.
FOUR YEARS LATER, THEY COME AND DO THE SECOND PHASE.
IT WILL HAVE A 30 YEAR LIFE, BUT THE FIRST PHASE TIRZ WILL EXPIRE WHILE THAT TIRZ IS IN PLACE.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE AN OVERLAPPING WHERE THEY ALL HAD SOME PID BONDS WERE PAID OFF.
THAT TIRZ WAS STILL PUT IN PLACE.
THIS IS THIS PROJECT IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE ON THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
>> SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE IN EASTRIDGE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF AGENDA ITEMS TO RECEIVE A PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT PLAN TO INDICATE WHAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE IDENTIFIED TO BE PAID BY THE ASSESSMENTS, WHAT THE ASSESSMENT LEVY WOULD BE, AND HOW THAT MONEY WOULD BE SPENT.
YOU'LL HAVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT YOU'LL CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE WILL BE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THE MARCH 24TH, AT WHICH TIME WE'VE HAD PRICE THE BONDS AND PRESENT THE FINAL SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN, LEVY ASSESSMENTS, AND IF COUNSEL AGREES, ISSUE THE BONDS, AFTER REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
APRIL 22ND IS ANTICIPATED CLOSE AND THE PAYMENT OF THE PID FEE.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.
THIS PROJECT IS SIMILAR IN SIZE.
IT'S ABOUT 11.8 MILLION OF PID BONDS FUNDING, ABOUT 9.6 MILLION OF PROJECT FUNDS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE CAPITALIZED INTEREST FOR ONE YEAR UNTIL.
THE WAY WE SIZE CAPITALIZED INTEREST, IT'S REALLY AN OFFSET WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF WE DID HAVE CAPITALIZED INTEREST, THE BOND PROJECT FUND WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY, BUT WE ACTUALLY TO ENSURE THE CREDIT QUALITY, WE HAVE CAPITALIZED INTEREST UNTIL WE THINK THE FIRST THIRD PARTY OWNERS WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROJECT, BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE CAPITALIZED INTEREST AFTER THE FIRST THIRD PARTY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT AT THE TIME THE FIRST THIRD PARTY TAKES OWNERSHIP, THEY RECEIVED THE NOTIFICATION OF THE FIRST ASSESSMENT LEVY.
WE WOULDN'T WANT TO BE A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE OWNED A HOME,
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AND THERE WAS CAPITALIZED INTEREST FOR A YEAR.THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LEVY, THEN SECOND YEAR, THEY SAW THAT LEVY, SO IT HAS TO BE INDICATED THAT WAY.
AGAIN, IN THIS CASE, IT'S A 30-YEAR FINANCING.
AVERAGE COUPON, WE EXPECT ABOUT 5.8% FOR TOTAL PNI ABOUT 25 MILLION, 830,000 ANNUAL PRINCIPAL INTEREST PAYMENT ON A PER PARCEL BASIS, ABOUT $3,066.
THE AVERAGE LIEN, WHICH IS THE PER AMOUNT OF BONDS DIVIDED BY THE PARCEL WILL BE ABOUT 43,000, SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN EASTRIDGE, AND IT REPRESENTS THE SLIGHTLY HIGHER HOME VALUES.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT.
THESE HOMES ESTIMATED A RANGE FROM 415,000-565,000.
THEY ALL HAVE THE TARGETED NET ASSESSOR RATE OF 0.60150 CENTS, BUT AS THEIR VALUE OF THE HOMES ARE DIFFERENT, THE ACTUAL ASSESSMENT, NET ASSESSMENT, AND GROSS ASSESSMENTS WILL BE DIFFERENT.
THE GROSS ASSESSMENT WILL RANGE FROM $3,317-4,515.
THE TIRZ OFFSET, AGAIN, WILL BE A PRORATA BASED ON THE HOME VALUE, ENDING UP WITH THE NET ASSESSMENT RANGING FROM $2,496-$3,098, ALL OF THEM BASED ON TARGET HOME PRICE AT ABOUT 0.601 CENTS.
[NOISE] THE TOTAL NET ASSESSMENTS PAID OUT WILL RANGE FROM ABOUT 75,000-102,000.
AGAIN, CISCALLY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS EASTRIDGE.
THE ASSESSMENT LIEN PER LOT WILL RANGE FROM $41,000-56,000 IN THE AVERAGE FINANCING, THE FINISHED LOT VALUE WILL BE ABOUT TWO TIMES WHAT THE NET ASSESSMENT WOULD BE.
AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT ADJACENT TO EASTRIDGE.
AGAIN, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
YOU CAN SEE STATISTICALLY, VERY SIMILAR TO EASTRIDGE.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WERE ALMOST IDENTICAL.
THE STRUCTURE, WE BELIEVE IS THE MOST CREDIT WORTHY STRUCTURE WE'RE AWARE OF THAT CAN BE DONE FOR THE CITY, [NOISE] AND WE EXPECT EFFICIENT EXECUTION OF THIS TRANSACTION.
WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS TRANSACTION.
AGAIN, AS COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED, WHEN WE CLOSE THE MONEY WILL GO INTO ESCROW, THE PROPOSED PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE BUILT AS DESIGNED BY THE CITY, INSPECTED BY CITY AND ACCEPTED BY CITY.
APPROPRIATE COSTS BEFORE MONEY GETS RELEASED OUT OF THE ESCROW FUND TO REIMBURSE FOR THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
>> FIRST, THE DEVELOPERS ARE HERE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR A HOUSE THAT'S OVER $0.5 MILLION AND ABOUT 18% OF THAT IS GOING TO BE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THIS IN THE TIRZ.
I REALLY HOPE THAT THESE HOUSES ARE LIKE KNOCKOUT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING IN THE END $600,000 FOR THESE HOMES.
I WAS JUST GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS FOR THESE $0.5 MILLION HOUSES WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING.
NEXT, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
THE MEMORANDUM THAT YOU PROVIDED FOR K1 AND K4 ARE DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE THAT K1 IS PRETTY CLEAR, BUT IN K4, THE CITY EXPLAINED IT, BUT THE VERBIAGE ON HERE IS STILL QUESTIONABLE.
IT STATES AT THE TOP THAT WE'RE GETTING A ONE TIME PID FEE OF THE 1,800 PER SINGLE FAMILY FOR $1,981,000, AND THEN AT THE END, IT SAYS, WE'RE GETTING 487,800.
IT'S STATING TWO SEPARATE ONE TIME PID FEES BEING PAID TO THE CITY ON THIS DOCUMENT, BUT YOUR PRESENTATION SHOWS THE 487,800 THERE.
>> I APOLOGIZE THAT WASN'T ARTICULATE.
I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING IT OUT.
IN TOTAL ON ALL THE PROJECTS, 02,100 HOMES, THE PID FEE, IN THIS CASE, TOTAL WILL BE THE 1,981,000 ON PHASE 1, THAT WOULD BE THE REDUCED NUMBER BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY FUNDING THE 271 HOMES.
IT'S ABOUT ONE QUARTER OF THE TOTAL FEE BECAUSE PID FEES GET
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PAID BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TERMS AT THE TIME OF THE ISSUES BOND ON THAT FACE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.>> SO IT'S NOT A ONE TIME FEE OF THAT.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET A CORRECTED VERSION WHERE IT'S NOT SAYING WE'RE GETTING THIS ONE TIME FEE OF $1,000,000?
IT'S CLEAR LANGUAGE REFLECTING THE LANGUAGE I USED IN THE PREVIOUS DOCUMENT.
>> IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE WILL MOVE ON.
THERE'S NO ACTION TO TAKE ON THIS ITEM.
[K5. 2025-03-10-R03 Consider approving a resolution determining costs and calling a public hearing to consider an ordinance levying assessments on property located within the Westridge Public Improvement District; directing the publication and mailing of notice of such public hearing; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
2025-03-10-R03, CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION, DETERMINING COSTS, AND CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE, LEVYING ASSESSMENTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE WESTRIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION AND MAILING OF NOTICE OF SUCH PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION, PRESENTED BY JEFF GULBAS.>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AMBERS, ONE STEP AHEAD OF ME TO MAKE SURE I GET THE RIGHT SLIDE.
THIS ITEM IS FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES IDENTICAL TO THE PROCESS THAT WE DID EARLIER FOR EASTRIDGE.
FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS AUTHORIZE PUBLICATION OF NOTICE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 24TH, WHERE YOU ALL WILL CONSIDER THE LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS AS DISCUSSED BY MR. SABONIS.
IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET, WE ALWAYS WANT TO PROVIDE THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.
AS YOU'VE HEARD, THOSE ARE VERY CRITICAL AND GUIDING DOCUMENTS FOR EACH IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
THOSE WILL BE FINALIZED ONCE BONDS ARE SOLD AND BROUGHT TO COUNCIL ON THE 24TH.
AGAIN, THIS ORDINANCE WILL PUBLISH NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE CONDUCTED ON THE 24TH.
>> YOUR HONOR, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K5.
2025-03-10-R03, APPROVING THE RESOLUTION, DETERMINING COSTS AND CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE LEAVING ASSESSMENTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE WESTRIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
>> LET'S TAKE ROLL CALL. MISS DAVID GRACE?
>> AYE. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THAT'LL TAKE US TO K6
[K6. 2025-03-10-R01 Consider approving a resolution for a preliminary project plan and financing plan for Reinvestment Zone Number Seven, City of Princeton, Texas, and establishing the boundaries of such Zone Number Seven; calling a public hearing with regard to the creation of such zone; providing an effective date; and resolving other matters related thereto; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
>> K6. 2025-03-10-R01, CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION FOR A PRELIMINARY PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCING PLAN FOR REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 7, CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS, AND ESTABLISHING THE BOUNDARIES OF SUCH ZONE NUMBER 7, CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING WITH REGARD TO THE CREATION OF SUCH ZONE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TO AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION PRESENTED BY MR. JEFF GULBAS.
>> EVENING AGAIN, SAME CONCEPT, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
THIS IS WE'RE DEALING AGAIN WITH THE WESTRIDGE, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
UNLIKE THE OTHERS, THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR THE CREATION OF A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.
ALL OF THE OTHERS, INCLUDING THE ITEM ON EASTRIDGE TONIGHT, DEALT WITH AN EXISTING REINVESTMENT ZONE.
BONDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SOLD FOR WESTRIDGE.
ON THE 24TH OF MARCH, ITEMS WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU TO CONSIDER THE SALE OF THE INITIAL BONDS FOR WESTRIDGE, WHICH IS GOING TO DEAL WITH THEIR FIRST IMPROVEMENT AREA, WHICH IS IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 1.
LIKE THE OTHERS, A TAX INCUMBENT REINVESTMENT ZONE IS PROPOSED TO BE CREATED TO OVERLAY THIS DISTRICT.
AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE OVERLAY IS TO BUY DOWN THE ASSESSMENTS, AS I'VE EXPLAINED.
IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET IS PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCING PLANS.
LIKE THE SAPS, THESE ARE THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS.
THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO EXPLAIN HOW ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO WORK, AND THEN ON THE 24TH, THE COUNCIL WILL BE PRESENTED WITH AN ORDINANCE TO FORMALLY CREATE THAT ZONE, DESIGNATE THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT ZONE TO BE CO TERMINUS WITH WESTRIDGE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
AGAIN, REPEATING MYSELF, THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZED PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PUBLIC.
>> THERE'S NO QUESTIONS. MOTION TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> YOU CAN MAKE MOTION. DID YOU MAKE A MOTION?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K6 AS SUBMITTED.
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>> LET'S TAKE ROLL CALL. MISS DAVE GRACE?
>> AYE. MOTION PASSES. NOW WILL TAKE US TO K7.
[K7. 2025-077 Discuss and consider issuing a Request for Qualifications (RFQ) for forensic auditing services; and take appropriate action.]
2025-077, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ISSUING A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR FORENSIC AUDITING SERVICES AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> THIS WAS BROUGHT BACK BEFORE COUNCIL, JUST BECAUSE AT THE LAST MEETING, IT STILL WASN'T CLEAR ON WHAT WE WAS REQUESTING.
I WANT TO JUST PUT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE ONLY REQUESTING THE FORENSIC AUDIT FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, BETWEEN THE TIME OF CONCEPTION TO THE LAST ACTIVITY, WHICH WAS 2022, I BELIEVE.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT, AND FOR US TO, I GUESS, MAKE A NEW MOTION WITH THE SCOPE MORE DEFINED.
IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, WE CAN.
>> I DO, JUST IF MISS SOPHIE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME UP, PLEASE.
>> WE'VE DISCUSSED THE RFQ FOR THE FORENSIC AUDIT QUITE A BIT.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS IN THE CITY SOME THOUGHT THAT THE COUNCIL IS OPPOSED TO THE FORENSIC AUDIT.
I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THE FORENSIC AUDIT, BUT SPECIFICALLY ME, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED.
I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIME FRAME.
JUST TO CLARIFY AND SO RESIDENTS CAN HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN OVERALL FOR THE CITY AND THEN ALSO WHAT THE IMPACT THAT IT COULD HAVE IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO RESOURCES, GETTING RESPONSES FROM THE CITY, AND ALSO MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE COST, SINCE THE BUDGET HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED, WHAT IT WOULD MEAN IF FUNDS HAVE TO BE TAKEN FROM PROJECTS TO PAY FOR THIS AUDIT, JUST HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT OVERALL THE CITY AND THEN, CONSIDERING, TOO, THAT A FORENSIC AUDIT IS ALMOST JUST TO PUT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, A HARD PULL ON YOUR CREDIT REPORT, AND THEN HOW THAT COULD ALSO HAVE AN IMPACT.
IF YOU WOULD EXPLAIN THOSE, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE.
>> SURE, HAPPILY. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THE FORENSIC AUDIT, AND I THINK I EXPLAINED THIS AT THE TWO MEETINGS AGO, MAYBE, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE REGULAR FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT, IN THAT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT IS USUALLY BID AT A FLAT FEE NOT TO EXCEED, AND YOU GET ALL BIDS BASED ON YOUR FUND STRUCTURE, YOUR ACTIVITY, ETC.
A FORENSIC AUDIT IS GENERALLY BID AT AN AMOUNT PER HOUR.
GIVEN THE SCOPE IS JUST RELATIVE TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER FROM 2015-2022, ALTHOUGH IT'S NARROW IN PROJECT SCOPE, THE TIME PERIOD IS STILL VAST.
THAT'S UP IN THE AIR AS TO HOURS THAT FORENSIC AUDITORS MAY PROPOSE IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THE WORK.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT WITH A DEFINITIVE NUMBER.
ADDITIONALLY, ONE THING TO CONSIDER IS ALTHOUGH WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFQ, IF THIS IS ABOUT THE CDC, I BELIEVE THAT THE CDC WOULD HAVE TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPENSE OF THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT PURPOSE.
WHAT WE'LL GET IS POSSIBLY AN ESTIMATE OF HOURS IT WOULD COST, AND THEN A BREAKDOWN OF PRICE BY STAFF LEVEL FOR THE FIRM PROPOSING, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT MIGHT COST TO DO SAID FORENSIC AUDIT, BUT IT'S HARDER TO NARROW DOWN AN EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
>> I WANT TO SAY THAT THE RFQ IS TO GET THESE NUMBERS.
APPROVING THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE DOING AUDIT.
IT'S JUST IT GETS THE PEOPLE HERE TO PRESENT TO US AND WE CAN ASK THESE QUESTIONS ON WHAT COST OR THEY CAN GIVE US AN ESTIMATED COST.
THIS IS TO FIND OUT IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF IT'S AN AMOUNT THAT WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THEN, BUT THIS IS TO SATISFY WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.
THEN AT THAT TIME, WE CAN DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND LIKE SHE SAID, CDC WOULD STILL HAVE TO APPROVE THAT EXPENSES AS WELL.
IT'S STILL QUITE A BIT OF TIME AND STEPS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO TAKE TO GET THIS DONE.
>> I AGREE. I JUST WANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AUDIT TO ALSO EDUCATE RESIDENTS ON
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THE PROCESS SO WE DO NOT HAVE A DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, THE INTENT OF THE AUDIT, AND ALSO HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT CURRENT OPERATIONS.>> WHEN IT COMES TO GIVE US THEIR PRESENTATION, WE CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND THEY COULD GIVE US FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE, WHAT IMPACTS THEY'VE SEEN IN THE PAST OR NOT.
I'M NOT SURE HAVE YOU EVER BEEN THROUGH A FOR FORENSIC AUDIT BEFORE.
>> SURE. IT'S SIMILAR IN NATURE TO A FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT, GIVEN THAT USUALLY IT'S MORE NARROW.
GENERALLY, THERE'S MORE INQUISITION.
THERE'S MORE STAFF QUESTIONING PROCESS WALK-THROUGH.
IF WE DON'T HAVE A NARROW SCOPE, THERE'S REALLY NO TELLING WHAT THE PROCEDURES THEY'LL DESIGN TO DETECT POTENTIAL WRONG DOING.
BUT I CAN IMAGINE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE PULLING INVOICES, PULLING CHECK STUBS, VOUCHING THAT TO OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.
THOSE WOULD BE SOME OF THE PROCEDURES THAT I MIGHT DO, BUT IT WOULD BE UP TO THEIR DISCRETION.
>> I THINK ONE OF HER QUESTIONS WHERE AS FAR AS STAFF, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY TIME-CONSUMING FOR I'M GUESSING HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WOULD IT TAKE TO SATISFY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. GENERALLY, OUR NORMAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT TAKES A SOLID THREE MONTHS, AND IT TAKES EVERY BIT OF THOSE THREE MONTHS FROM ME CLOSING TO PROVIDING EXPLANATIONS TO THE AUDITORS TO PROVIDING SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, TO ANSWERING PROCESS QUESTIONS.
THIS WOULD BE JUST SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THAT, I PRESUME.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THEIR PROCEDURES AHEAD OF TIME.
>> I WANT TO SAY, I'VE WITHDRAWN MY REQUEST FOR THE RFQ FOR THE ENGINEERING FORENSIC AUDIT BECAUSE THERE WERE ADDITIONAL PLANS THAT I HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN PREVIOUSLY.
BUT IN MEETING WITH THE CDC AND EDC WITH THE CITY, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT I CAN REQUEST THESE DOCUMENTS AS A RESIDENT AND NOT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING TO PROVIDE THAT TRANSPARENCY A LITTLE BIT USING SOME OF THE PRESENTATIONS AND STUFF THAT ARE PRE-EXISTING THAT THE CDC AND EDC HAVE.
TO HELP EXPLAIN BETTER TO THE PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE IN REGARDS TO THAT, WHERE IT WAS, WHERE IT'S AT NOW, TO ENSURE THAT THAT TRANSPARENCY STILL IS OUT THERE, SO WE WILL NOT BE NEEDING FORENSIC ENGINEERING AUDIT.
>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. I THINK THAT FITS NICELY WITH OUR MAJOR PROJECTS PAGE.
>> IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, AND JUST REMEMBER, THIS IS TO NARROW THE SCOPE OF IT.
>> THIS IS JUST A GENERAL FORENSIC AUDIT QUESTION.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT THE CHECKS THE CITY WROTE ON BEHALF OF THIS ITEM WE'RE LOOKING AT.
DOES THAT AUDIT GO BEYOND WHERE THOSE CHECKS WENT, WHO CASHED THEM AND THEN WHERE THAT MONEY WENT?
>> I DON'T THINK IT COULD GO ANYWHERE ON THE VENDOR SIDE WITHOUT ACTIVE LITIGATION OR SUBPOENA.
I THINK IT WOULD JUST FOCUS ON THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT VENDOR, AND THAT WOULD BE THE SCOPE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO THE VENDORS.
MAYBE THEY COULD, AND THEY WOULD OBLIGE.
I IMAGINE THAT IT WOULD JUST BE THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP TO PAYMENT TO THOSE VENDORS, WOULD BE THE SCOPE THAT WE'RE ENGAGED IN.
>> THAT'S CORRECT AND BASED ON THE RECORDS THAT THE CITY HAS TOO.
>> I NOTICED IN THIS RFQ, THAT WE CAME UP WITH THE DATES OF 2015-2022.
WOULD YOU JUST GIVE AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THAT TIME PERIOD, PLEASE?
>> YES, MA'AM. THE DATES ARE 2015-2022 BECAUSE THE PROPERTY WAS PROCURED IN 2015 INITIALLY.
THAT'S WHEN THE LAND SALE HAPPENED, AND THAT BUILDING WAS PURCHASED.
THEN THE LAST EXPENSE HAPPENED IN FISCAL YEAR 22.
JUST BROADLY FROM OUR PROJECT ACCOUNTING SIDE, LAST EXPENSE WAS IN 2022.
>> THE MAJORITY OF THE EXPENSES HAPPENED IN 2022.
>> THEN MAYOR IS A PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE AUDIT, WHETHER WE WOULD SHORTEN THAT TIME PERIOD, OR WHETHER WE WOULD JUST WANT TO RETAIN THE FULL SCOPE SO WE JUST HAVE A FULL INVENTORY OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
>> IT WAS JUST UNTIL THE LAST ACTIVITY ON THE ACCOUNT BECAUSE I THINK THE LAST MEETING, WE WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE SCOPE WAS.
WE JUST LEFT IT OPEN AND THEN AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO WHAT THAT ORIGINAL RFQ WAS FOR, AND THAT WAS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
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BUT LIKE I SAID, MAJORITY OF THE ACTIVITY ON THAT BUILDING WAS IN '21, 2022.>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN HELP WITH?
>> DO WE WANT THE AUDIT TO COVER THE MAJORITY OF THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE '21, '22 TIME PERIOD?
>> JUST 2015 FROM THE TIME IT WAS PURCHASED.
>> LEAVE IT TO THE LAST ACTIVITY IN 2022.
>> I ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE? ARE WE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT?
>> WITH THE CONDITIONS. YOU CAN STATE THE CONDITIONS?
>> MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE TIME FRAME BEING 2015-2022 WITH THE SOLE FOCUS ON THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
>> YOUR HONOR, BECAUSE MY NAME IS ON THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THIS.
ALTHOUGH IF I WAS VOTING I'D VOTE, YES, BUT I'M ABSTAIN.
>> MOTION PASSES. THAT WILL TAKE US TO THE K8.
[K8. 2025-076 Presentation and discussion regarding adding the Citizens on Patrol Unit to the Princeton Police Department; and take appropriate action. Presented by Sergeant Trim.]
>> PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING ADDING THE CITIZENS ON PATROL UNIT TO THE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION PRESENTED BY SERGEANT TRIM AND INTRODUCED BY THE CHIEF JAMES WATERS.
HE MADE ME SAY THAT. [LAUGHTER]
>> MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AS PRESENTED AT OUR LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, YOU ALL SAW OUR STATE.
YOU ALL SAW SOME OF THE INCREASE WITHIN EITHER THEFTS OR BURGLARIES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES EVEN THOUGH OUR INCREASE IN POPULATION, WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP THE RATIO BELOW THE INCREASE OF POPULATION.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE INCREASE OF POPULATION IS ROUGHLY 26%, AS LONG AS WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP THAT 26% RISE IN BURGLARIES BELOW THAT, THAT MEANS WE'RE ACTUALLY WE'RE KNOCKING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE RISING POPULATION IS GOING UP 26%, BUT YET THE RISE IN BURGLARIES AND ALL THAT IS BELOW THE 26% INCREASE.
ACTUALLY, WE'RE MAKING A COMBATIVE EFFORT ON THAT.
BUT ONE THING WE ARE ASKING FOR, WE KNOW THAT MONEY IS TIGHT.
WE KNOW THAT MONEY'S TIGHT EVERYWHERE.
ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO GET CREATIVE IN HOW WE HANDLE AND LOOK AT CRIME AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
WE'RE LOOKING AT RE-IMPLEMENTING THE CITIZENS ON PATROL UNIT.
HERE, SERGEANT TRIM WAS ONE OF OUR PATROL SERGEANTS FOR A LONG WHILE OUT THERE HITTING THE STREETS LATE AT NIGHT.
HE'S RECENTLY MOVED INTO OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.
HE RECENTLY TOOK OVER OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY THAT I BELIEVE WE ARE IN OUR FOURTH, FIFTH WEEK.
WE'RE GOING TO SHOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THE TWO OF THOSE TOGETHER TO RUN WITH THIS NEW PROGRAM.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE SERGEANT TRIM.
>> MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, MR. MASHBURN, CHIEF. THANK YOU.
I FORTUNATELY GET TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS AND SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I'M SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT, WHICH IS COMMUNITY POLICING.
I THINK THE BIGGEST THING WE CAN DO AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT IS BUILD MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR CITIZENS BECAUSE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S OUR CITIZENS WHO REALLY ALLOW US TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO.
AM I SUPPOSED TO CLICK THIS? PLUS TOWN.
>> YOU GOT TO TURN IT ON. JEFF, TURN IT ON.
THAT'S GOING TO INCORPORATE WITH OUR CPA CLASS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ASK QUESTIONS, BUT EVERYONE, HAVE YOU ALL HEARD OF CITIZENS ON PATROL BEFORE? IT'S A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.
IT'S GOING TO BE OUR EYES AND EARS OUT ON THE STREETS.
IT'S GOING TO BE CITIZENS, NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, IT'S GOING TO BE CITIZENS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS TO HELP MAKE THE COMMUNITY BETTER.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUR EYES AND EARS ON THE STREETS.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SPECIFIC TRAINING.
SOME OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT THEY CAN ASSIST WITH ARE IF WE HAVE MAJOR ACCIDENTS AND 380 IS GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN, WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S COMING HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THEY CAN COME OUT AND ASSIST WITH THAT AND BLOCK TRAFFIC.
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LIKE A 4TH OF JULY EVENT, THEY CAN COME OUT AND HELP WITH THAT AS FAR AS WORKING THE GATES, DOING TRAFFIC AS WELL THERE.REALLY ANYTHING THAT WE NEED ASSISTANCE WITH, CITIZENS ON PATROL IS GOING TO BE THAT FIRST PERSON THAT WE CONTACT.
WHAT DO WE NEED FROM THE CITY? NOT A LOT, REALISTICALLY.
LIKE CHIEF SAID, WE ARE TRYING TO BE AS CREATIVE AS POSSIBLE.
WE CURRENTLY ARE TRANSITIONING ALL OF OUR VEHICLES, WHICH CHIEF HAS SOMEHOW FIGURED OUT HOW TO FIND SOME.
OUR OLDER VEHICLES WERE TURNING INTO OUR CITIZENS ON PATROL.
THESE ARE RENDERINGS THAT MS. TIFFANY WEST DID IN ABOUT TWO SECONDS. THANK YOU, TIFFANY.
IT'LL HAVE CITIZENS ON PATROL ON THE SIDE.
THEY'LL HAVE VESTS OR SOMETHING SIMILAR, SHOWING THAT THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS.
THEY'LL BE ISSUED SOMEWHAT OF A UNIFORM, NOT LIKE WHAT YOU SEE OUR OFFICERS IN, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING VERY DISTINCT AND DIFFERENT.
WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE CITY, HEY, THIS IS CITIZENS ON PATROL.
THEY DON'T CARRY A GUN. THERE'S NO BADGE.
THEY ARE THERE DRIVING NEIGHBORHOODS FOR US.
IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING LIKE KHAKIS, FIVE ELEVENS WITH A POLO SHIRT.
THEY'LL HAVE OUR CITIZENS ON PATROL EMBLEM.
THEN, REALLY AT NIGHTTIME, MY FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR THEM WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR IS TO GET VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
EASTRIDGE UP ON AN ISLAND UP NORTH.
I WANT YOU DRIVING THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE CALLING OUT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE A RADIO.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING FOR THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE CALLING OUT DIFFERENT THINGS.
HEY, CITIZEN LEFT THEIR GARAGE DOOR OPEN.
CITIZENS CORRIDOR HAS BEEN LEFT OPEN.
ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER, HEY, THIS IS A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES CALLING IT OUT.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A PLACARD ON, HEY, WE KNOW YOUR GARAGE DOOR IS OPEN.
IF EVERYTHING'S OKAY, COOL, IF NOT, CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE MORNING IF SOMETHING WAS TAKEN.
THAT WAY, OUR CITIZENS KNOW THAT HEY, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT DRIVING YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND HERE'S A WAY FOR US TO SHOW THAT TO YOU.
THE REQUIREMENTS, CURRENTLY, AS CHIEF SAID, WE HAVE A CPA CLASS, WHICH IS OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.
I THINK WE GOT 25 THIS YEAR THAT ARE GOING THROUGH IT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BACKGROUND CHECK.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE PART OF THAT BACKGROUND CHECK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE OVER 18, A CLEAN DRIVING RECORD FOR THE MOST PART BECAUSE THEY WILL BE DRIVING A CITY VEHICLE.
THEN IT'S GOING TO BE SO MANY VOLUNTEER HOURS PER MONTH.
IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS FINE, WE CAN'T HAVE YOU IN THE PROGRAM.
WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO ACTIVELY COME OUT AND WORK WITH US AND HELP BUILD SOME OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR CITIZENS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY LIKE I SAID, THE MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE CAN HAVE OR THE MORE MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH OUR CITIZENS, THE BETTER.
>> AS A CITIZEN, I'VE DECIDED THAT I WANT TO BECOME A PART OF THE CITIZENS ON PATROL.
AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M VOLUNTEERING MY TIME, BUT THAT COMES WITH A DIFFERENT LEVEL, I BELIEVE OF SECURITY.
THAT PLACES ME IN THE POSITION, ALTHOUGH I'M STILL A CITIZEN, VOLUNTEERING MY TIME.
WHAT SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE FOR ME AS A PERSON TO FEEL SECURE IN THAT POSITION?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AT ANY POINT WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE ON, SO THE WAY THE PROGRAM IS TYPICALLY SET UP IS IT WORKS AS A TWO-PERSON, SO TWO PEOPLE WILL BE IN THE SQUAD CAR AT A TIME OR THE CITIZEN ON PATROL CAR AT A TIME.
THEY'LL HAVE A RADIO, SO THEY'LL KNOW HOW TO TALK ON THE RADIO, WHICH IS SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH.
THEN WHAT THEY ARE DOING, YES, 380 IS DANGEROUS IF THEY'RE HAVING TO BLOCK TRAFFIC, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO CALLS, IF THERE'S A THEFT AT WALMART OR AN ACTIVE BURGLARY OR DOMESTICS, ANY OF THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE GET, THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING.
THEIR SOLE PURPOSE IS TO DRIVE NEIGHBORHOODS, ESSENTIALLY, AND JUST LOOK FOR THINGS THAT ARE SUSPICIOUS.
IF THEY ARE, WE TRAIN THEM TO BE THE BEST WITNESSES WE CAN HAVE.
THEY DON'T GO HANDS-ON WITH ANYONE.
THEY'RE NOT GIVING HANDCUFFS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF ANYTHING, STAY IN YOUR CAR, CALL US, AND WE WILL COME OUT AS FAST AS WE CAN.
BUT IT'S REALLY JUST TO GIVE US MORE EYES AND EARS BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ALL THE STATISTICS.
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IF WE COULD DRIVE NEIGHBORHOODS DAY IN AND DAY OUT, 24/7, WE WOULD, WE JUST CAN'T.WE HAVE TOO MANY ACCIDENTS ON 380.
THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH GOING ON IN THE CITY, AND THIS IS GOING TO HELP FILL THAT GAP IN A VERY SAFE WAY FOR THEM. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
IN THE EVENT, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ENGAGING.
IN THE EVENT THAT THEY WITNESSED SOMETHING TRAUMATIC.
HOW WOULD THEY CARE FOR AFTER THAT?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE SAME WAY THAT ONE OF OUR OFFICERS WHEN THEY HAVE SOMETHING TRAUMATIC.
YOU GUYS HAVE MET DETECTIVE QUIMBY.
HE'S OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER.
HE'S ALSO AN OFFICER THAT WE CAN GO TALK TO.
ON TOP OF THAT, OUR CHAPLAIN SERVICE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MET ANNA.
SHE'S THE ONE WHO ALWAYS CAME OUT ON OUR SHIFT, AS THE ONE OUR SHIFT USED WHEN OFFICER DOMINGUEZ PASSED AWAY.
THEY HAVE THOSE SAME RESOURCES AS ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD ON THE PD SIDE, AS FAR AS VOLUNTEERS.
>> THEY DON'T HAVE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE A PART OF ANY HEALTH PROGRAM, BUT THEY CAN TALK TO ANNA, THEY CAN TALK TO DETECTIVE [INAUDIBLE].
>> THE LAST QUESTION, HOW WOULD THEY HANDLE BEING CALLED A SNITCH? IF IT'S FOUND OUT THAT THEY ARE THE SNITCH.
>> THAT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON, REALLY? I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH BEING CALLED A SNITCH.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE PERSON, I GUESS.
>> WOULDN'T THIS BE LIKE ALL CITIZENS NEED TO DO, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING? [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS SOMETHING SIMILAR.
THEY'VE HAD FOR YEARS, AND THEY ACTUALLY HELP US IN THE TOYS FOR TAS TOY RUN MOTORCYCLE RUN THAT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT COVER ALL THE INTERSECTIONS AND DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AT THAT.
I'VE SEEN THEM AT OTHER EVENTS AND BEEN INVOLVED WITH THEM.IT'S A VERY GOOD ORGANIZATION, VERY WELL. THANK YOU.
>> I AGREE. IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM, BUT I'M ALSO ALWAYS, VERY, CAREFUL FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT WE'RE LIVING IN A DIFFERENT WORLD, AND ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT FOR US TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE SO WE CAN CARE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL WHO VOLUNTEERS, SO JUST TO HAVE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS IN PLACE AS THE PROGRAM IS LAUNCHED AND SO PEOPLE FEEL SAFE.
THEY WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO VOLUNTEER AND KNOW THAT THERE IS SUPPORT FOR THEM IN THE EVENT THAT THEY ENCOUNTER SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE UNABLE TO DEAL WITH EFFECTIVELY ON THEIR OWN.
>> JUST A QUESTION, WOULD THERE BE ABILITY TO PARTNER OR COLLABORATE WITH HOA NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH GROUPS?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. CURRENTLY, I HAVE IT'S A DIFFERENT TOPIC.
I HAVE A, I GUESS I CALL MY CIVILIAN LIAISON.
HE'S HELPING OUT A LOT, SO HE BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH FOR TRAILS OF RIVERSTONE.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PUT IT OUT THERE A TON, BUT THE GOAL IS FOR NELSON AND MYSELF, FOR ANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH OR HOAS, WE'VE GONE AND TALKED TO EASTRIDGE.
IT'S A SEPARATE THING AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY POLICING GOES.
BUT IF WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT REQUEST, LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES, THINGS LIKE THAT, IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN HANDLE.
>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YOU GUYS ARE ASKING FOR TWO VEHICLES RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU PLAN TO EXPAND TO MORE?
>> WE HAVE TWO VEHICLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO RE-PURPOSE.
CURRENTLY, THEY SAY POLICE ON THE SIDE OF THEM, WE'LL SAY CITIZENS ON PATROL.
LIKE, MISS DAVID GRAVES, OUR MAIN CONCERN, RIGHT IS SAFETY.
WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO CONFUSE THEM FOR POLICE.
>> THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY ARE NOT POLICE OFFICERS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE GOING HANDS ON, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE RE-PURPOSING TWO VEHICLES CURRENTLY.
THE INITIAL GOAL IS TO HAVE 8-10 PEOPLE, AND THEN EXPAND THE PROGRAM FROM THERE.
ONE OF THE PREREQUISITES IS BEING THAT CPA CLASS.
THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THOSE CPA CLASSES, SOME YEARS ARE SMALLER THAN OTHERS.
WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE POOL TO PULL FROM, BUT 8-10 IS WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR RIGHT NOW.
>> MY QUESTION IS, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO LIKE ACCIDENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHAT EXTRA TRAINING BEYOND, LIKE THE CPR CAN BE OFFERED TO THEM FOR TRAININGS SO THAT THEY CAN RESPOND AND HELP WITH THOSE THINGS.
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LIKE IN SCHOOLS, SOME OF OUR STAFF WERE TRAINED FOR TRAUMA RESPONSE.WILL THOSE TYPES OF TRAININGS BE AVAILABLE TO THEM SO THAT THEY ARE BETTER EQUIPPED WHEN THEY'RE RESPONDING TO THE ACCIDENTS?
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL TRAINING SCHEDULE SET IN STONE JUST YET.
TYPICALLY, WITH A CITIZENS ON PATROL GROUP, THEY'RE NOT THE ONES RUNNING CODE.
WHAT WILL TYPICALLY HAPPEN IS IF WE HAVE A MAJOR ACCIDENT, WE'LL SAY 380 AND BEACH THEM.
OFFICERS WILL RESPOND THERE, THEY'LL SHUT DOWN AND THEY'LL START WORKING THE ACCIDENT SCENE.
WELL, A BIG ENOUGH ACCIDENT, AND THAT'S LARGE OF AN INTERSECTION IS GOING TO TAKE PRETTY MUCH A WHOLE SHIFT, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING.
WELL, EVERYONE ON THAT SHIFT IS NOT NECESSARILY WORKING THE ACCIDENT, THEY'RE JUST BLOCKING TRAFFIC, SO OFFICERS DON'T GET HIT.
WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY DO IF THERE'S A CITIZENS ON PATROL WORKING, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RUN CODE.
THEY WILL SHOW UP AFTER THE FACT, AND REPLACE ONE OF THOSE OFFICERS SO THEY COULD GO BACK TO THEIR DISTRICT AND PATROL, AND THEN THEIR SOLE PURPOSE IS TO BLOCK TRAFFIC.
THEY'LL HAVE A TRAFFIC BASED OFF.
THEY'RE RED AND BLUES, THEY'RE CALLING WOOS.
THEY'LL BE ON. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RESPONDING CODE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> AN INTERESTING THING, YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THESE WATERS.
YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO OUR CHIEF FACTOR BECAUSE, I KNOW.
BUT HE WAS TELLING ME A VERY INTERESTING THING ABOUT LIKE, THERE'S AN APP IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE CPR TRAINED THAT CAN SEND OUT AN ALERT TO THOSE NEARBY FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSES.
IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING THING TO IMPLEMENT SIMULTANEOUSLY AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE TWO DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY IF SOME OF THE FIRST ONES THAT GOT TRAINED WERE YOUR CITIZEN. SORRY.
>> TO DEAL WITH THE TRAINING, THE CITIZENS ON PATROL DOES GO THROUGH A SERIES OF TRAINING.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE THE 8-12 WEEKS, JUST QUITE, YES.
BUT YET, CPR FIRST AIDE WAS A SELF AID BUDDY AID? SUB TRAINING AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT WILL BE TAUGHT WITH IN THERE.
THERE WILL BE ALL SORTS OF CLASSES, EVERYTHING FROM CHANGING A TIRE TO HOW TO DIRECT TRAFFIC TO CPR, TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT ENCOUNTER OUT THERE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
WHAT SERGEANT TRIM IS TRYING TO ALLUDE TO IS NO, THEY WILL NOT BE RUNNING CODE TO EMERGENCIES, EVEN THOUGH THAT THEY HAVE LIGHTS ON TOP.
EVEN THE LIGHTS ON TOP OF THE PREVIOUSLY OWNED SQUAD CARS WILL BE SWITCHED OVER TO GOLD AND AMBER OR WHATEVER IT IS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, SO THAT WAY, NO ONE CAN ACTUALLY MISTAKE THEM.
THE CAR WILL SOMEWHAT LOOK LIKE A SQUAD CAR ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS AN OLD SQUAD CAR.
WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK OUT OF IT.
BUT YES, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT'S ON THERE.
WE DON'T QUITE KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE THE 8-12 WEEKS JUST YET, BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME RE UTILIZATION PURPOSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE I WATCH TOO MUCH JAMES BOND OR COP SHOWS, BUT ALL KINDS OF SCENARIOS ARE COMING UP IN MY HEAD.
WHAT IF THERE IS A COP A CITIZEN ON PATROL THAT HAS A LICENSE TO CARRY? THEY HAVE THE GUN ON THEM.
WHAT PROTOCOLS ARE IN PLACE FOR THAT?
>> YES, MA'AM. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE CITY OF PRINCETON, EVEN THOUGH THEY VOLUNTEERS AND ALL THIS STUFF, WE WILL BE CARRYING THEM UP UNDERNEATH OUR INSURANCE AND ALL THAT.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE WILL NOT BE TRAINING THEM ON FIREARMS. I AM LIABLE FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE OFFICERS AND THEIR FIREARMS AND THE ROUNDS AND ALL THIS STUFF.
WHENEVER PEOPLE PUT ON OUR BADGE, OUR INSIGNIA AND ALL THAT STUFF, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I AM LIABLE.
UNLESS THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME PROGRAM, THE SAME PROGRAM THAT THESE OFFICERS HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND ALL THIS STUFF, I WILL NOT SIGN OFF ON IT.
THERE'S A BUNCH OF ISSUES AND ALL STUFF.
ALL IT TAKES IS ONE MISS ROUND AND ONE INNOCENT PERSON GETTING HIT AND INJURED AND OR HURT. NO, MA'AM.
>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL THE BASES.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK, SERGEANT TRIM, THIS IS AWESOME.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS.
I THINK THIS JUST FURTHER SOLIDIFIES HOW AMAZING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS IN THE ENTIRE NATION.CHIEF KNOWS VERY MUCH THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HOLDS A VERY DEAR SPOT IN MY HEART.
JUST BE READY. I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT SIZE BUT SIGN ME UP.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
[01:30:01]
>> ITEM K9. DISCUSSION REGARDING.
>> HOLD ON. WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT.
I'M SORRY. WHAT ARE WE TAKING?
>> I'M SORRY, MR. MAY. THERE THERE'S NO ACTION THAT'S NEEDED ON THERE THAT WAS JUST MORE OF AN UPDATE AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE HEADING TO IN THE DIRECTION.
[K9. 2025-079 Discussion regarding council liaison appointments; and take appropriate action.]
DISCUSSION REGARDING COUNCIL LIAISON APPOINTMENTS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.>> I'M GRANT. THERE'S TWO LIAISON POSITIONS OPEN.
I THINK YOU WAS TELLING ME SOMETHING EARLIER, I'M SORRY, I FORGOT.
BUT ABOUT JUST ANNOUNCING THE OTHER ONES AND GOING FROM THERE.
YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM HERE, GRANT?
>> SURE, MAYOR. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SO RIGHT NOW, COUNCIL MEMBER WASHINGTON IS THE LIAISON FOR THE CDC, AND COUNCIL MEMBER DAVID GRAVES IS THE LIAISON FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD.
MY THOUGHT WAS SINCE WE'RE REVISITING THE LIAISONS, ASSUMING THOSE TWO WANT TO VOLUNTEER THEIR SERVICES AGAIN.
JUST TO REAPPOINT THOSE TWO POSITIONS AND THEN APPOINT THE TWO VACANCIES.
ONE BEING THE EDC WAS PREVIOUSLY FILLED BY FORMER MAYOR CHACON.
THEN THE P&Z, NO ONE WAS APPOINTED AS LIAISON TO THE P&Z.
THAT WAS JUST MY RECOMMENDATION SINCE WE'RE AND JUST TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR LIAISON POLICY.
>> I THINK THAT WE HAD MISS TODD WAS WANTING TO BE ON P&Z, AND MR. JOHNSON WAS ASKING TO BE ON EDC.
IF ANYBODY ON COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? WE CAN GO FROM THERE. MR. WASHINGTON, YOU WANT TO STAY WHERE YOU'RE AT, AND MISS DAVID GRAVES?
>> IF THE LIBRARY BOARD WILL STILL HAVE ME, I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE WITH THEM.
>> GOOD. I GUESS, WITH THAT, MISS TODD WILL BE P&Z, AND MR. JOHNSON WILL TAKE OVER EDC AND MR. WASHINGTON AND MISS DAVID GRAVES WOULD REMAIN WHERE THEY'RE AT, AND I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION FOR MISS TODD, TO BE THE COUNCIL LIAISON FOR P&Z.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON FOR EDC, COUNCILMAN WASHINGTON FOR THE CDC, AND COUNCILWOMAN DAVID GRAVES, FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD.
>> I DO A ROLL CALL. MISS DAVID GRAVES.
>> MOTION PASSES. NOW MOVE US TO K 10.
[K10. 2025-069 Consider approving a request for items to be placed on a future agenda and NOT for discussion of these requests.]
CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THESE REQUESTS.
>> I WOULD LIKE THE RFQ FOR ADDITIONAL ENGINEERS THAT I HAD REQUESTED A MONTH AGO TO COME BACK UP AT NEXT MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL ENGINEERS TO HAVE HIS OPTIONS WITHIN OUR CITY.
I WOULD LOVE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ASK THAT WE OPEN THE DISCUSSION FOR REVISITING THE HOME RULE CHARTER.
I WAS HOPING THAT IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A LIST OF ANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH PIDS THAT ARE ATTACHED THAT HAVE NOT YET COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
>> WE DO HAVE A MAP WITH EVERYTHING ONLINE THAT TELLS WHEN IT WAS STARTED, THE DEVELOPMENT PHASES.
>> IS THERE, LIKE A LIST? OR DO I HAVE TO GO CLICK THROUGH ALL OF THEM?
>> WE CAN WORK ON A LIST FOR YOU.
>> THEN, THAT'S ALL OF THEM. THANKS.
>> I THINK WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS IN THERE IN THE PAST, BUT THE REVIEW TO THE ORDINANCES, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT GOING.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BUDGETED FOR ADDITIONAL ATTORNEY SERVICES TO REVIEW TO ALL OF THE ORDINANCES.
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A BUDGET REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR.
>> MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT AS WE'RE DISCUSSING TOWN HALLS THAT WE CONSIDER MISS MAXINE'S PROPOSAL, AND EVEN MINE, TO HAVE A TOWN HALL HOSTED AT ARCADIA FARMS, SO ONE OF THE OTHER HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS JUST TO GIVE COUNSEL MORE HANDS ON AND A MORE RELATABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
[01:35:17]
>> I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE MORE REQUEST.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT A WORK SET SESSION GOING OVER AT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND JUST THAT PROCESS.
JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS HOW THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FORMS AND THE PASS COME AFTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST A WORK SET SESSION FOR THE FUTURE. IF THAT IS ALL.
I JUST HAVE TO PULL IT UP SO I CAN GIVE YOU THE EXACT CODE.
OUR ORDINANCE FOR OUR FINAL PLOTS.
I BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE OF TIMES.
IT STATES THAT IN THE FINAL PLOT, THAT IT NEEDS THE DEVELOPMENT PLOTS ATTACHED TO IT.
IT IS ACTUALLY THE PRELIMINARY PLOTS.
THE CODE IS INCORRECT, AND THE LINK IS WRONG.
IF WE CAN PLEASE HAVE THAT ORDINANCE UPDATED.
IF WE NEED TO DO AN AMENDMENT FOR THAT, THEN CAN WE PUT AN AMENDMENT IN PLACE FOR IT, OR CAN IT JUST BE FIXED AS A CLERICAL ERROR?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER [INAUDIBLE], IT CAN BE FIXED AS AN ERROR.
I BELIEVE THE REQUEST WAS ALREADY MADE TO MUNI CODE, BUT I THINK IT I'LL DEFER MAYBE TO AMBER.
IT TAKES A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO SHOW UP TO SHOW UP ONLINE, BUT THE REQUEST HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.
>> THERE IS A CLERICAL [INAUDIBLE].
>> AS AMBER WAS SAYING, IF IT'S JUST A CLERICAL ERROR, IT CAN BE UPDATED A LITTLE BIT MORE RAPIDLY, BUT IT STILL TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IT CREATES A LITTLE LOOPHOLE THERE ON WHAT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE TURNED INTO.
>> IF THAT'S ALL, THAT'LL TAKE US TO K10.
>> SIR, THAT TAKES US TO THE REPORT AGENDA?
[L. REPORT AGENDA]
>> THE REPORT AGENDA. OUR NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ON MONDAY, MARCH 24, AT 6:30 P.M. OUR NEXT REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IS ON MONDAY, MARCH 17, AT 6:30 P.M. OUR NEXT REGULAR CDC MEETING IS ON TUESDAY, APRIL 1, AT 6:00 P.M. OUR NEXT REGULAR EDC MEETING IS ON MONDAY, APRIL 7 AT 6:00 P.M.
>> THAT WILL TAKE US TO ADJOURNMENT.
I'LL ENTAIL MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> THE TIME IS 8:09.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.