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ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE PRE COUNCIL MEETING. TODAY IS APRIL 28TH, 2025.

LET'S START WITH ROLL CALL. MISS DAVID GRAVES HERE.

MISS TODD HERE. HOLD ON IS RICK. WHERE'S RICK AT? IT'S ONLY ALLOWING ONE PERSON AT A TIME. OKAY. HERE.

MR. WASHINGTON HERE. MISS GERFERS HERE.

MR. DEFFIBAUGH HERE. HERE. MR. LONG HERE.

MR. JOHNSON HERE.

ALL RIGHT. THIS WILL TAKE US INTO OUR WORK SESSION.

[C. WORK SESSION AGENDA]

[INAUDIBLE] WORK SESSION AGENDA ITEM C1, 2025-113 UPDATE OF PROGRESS MADE ON DRAINAGE AND PRINCETON, PRESENTED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR CRAIG FISHER.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR ESCOBAR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CRAIG FISHER, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I'M HAPPY TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON ON DRAINAGE IN THE CITY OF PRINCETON.

THIS ITEM IS BEING PRESENTED AT TO RESPOND TO A REQUEST MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN TODD, COUNCILWOMAN CAROLYN, DAVID GRAVES AND MAYOR ESCOBAR ON A NUMBER OF DRAINAGE TOPICS.

IS THIS WORKING? THANK YOU. SO, CITY STAFF AND THE CITY'S ENGINEERING TEAM, THAT INCLUDES CONSULTANTS FROM KIMLEY-HORN, THE CITY'S ENGINEERS AND DRAINAGE ENGINEERS, MET WITH COUNCILWOMAN TODD ON FEBRUARY 27TH TO DISCUSS DRAINAGE MATTERS.

WE LOOKED AT THE CITY'S CURRENT DRAINAGE CRITERIA.

WE DISCUSSED PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAME AWAY WITH AN ACTION PLAN FROM THAT MEETING.

THAT ACTION PLAN WAS PUT INTO A MEMO AND SHARED WITH COUNCILWOMAN TODD AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY MANAGER, MR. MASHBURN. I'M PRESENTING THAT TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE THIS EVENING.

SO YOU RECEIVED THAT MEMO IN YOUR PACKET AND TODAY'S PRESENTATION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO ONE OF THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT MEETING WAS TO LOOK AT THE CITY'S CURRENT DRAINAGE ORDINANCES AND EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TIGHTENING THOSE UP. SO CITY STAFF HAS DRAFTED, IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR ENGINEERS, A NUMBER OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO OUR DRAINAGE ORDINANCES. THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE CITY'S ENGINEER.

THE OR EXCUSE ME, THE CITY'S ATTORNEY. THOSE ARE BEING REVIEWED AND THOSE WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE.

SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT UPDATING IS WHAT STORM EVENTS WE'RE DESIGNING TO.

SO THE CURRENT CRITERIA REQUIRES ENGINEERS TO DESIGN TO 100 YEAR STORM EVENT.

AND AN 100 YEAR EVENT IS IS A STATISTICAL TERM DESCRIBING A RAINFALL EVENT THAT HAS A 1% CHANCE OF OCCURRING IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.

SO SOME OPTIONS FOR ENHANCING THAT IS TO DESIGN TO A 25 YEAR STORM, WHICH HAS A 4% CHANCE OF OCCURRING IN ANY YEAR, OR EVEN POSSIBLY A 5 YEAR STORM, WHICH HAS A CHANCE OF OCCURRING EVERY ONCE, HAS A 20% CHANCE OF OCCURRING ONCE A YEAR OR EVEN TWO YEARS.

WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES DO A TWO YEAR STORM EVENT, WHICH HAS A 50% CHANCE OF OCCURRING IN ANY YEAR.

SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE UPDATES THAT WE'RE EXPLORING.

THOSE WILL BE PROVIDED TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FURTHER DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE LATER ON IN YOUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING, A RFQ FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES, MR. TOMMY MAPP, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, WILL BE PRESENTING THAT ITEM THIS EVENING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPLORING OPTIONS FOR DIFFERENT ENGINEERING FIRMS TO SERVE THE CITY.

AND AFTER THAT RFQ, IF APPROVED TONIGHT THAT GOES OUT WE'LL, WE'LL THEN LOOK TO HIRE VARIOUS ENGINEERING FIRMS WITH DIFFERENT SPECIALTIES.

ONCE THAT THOSE HIRINGS HAVE TAKEN PLACE, WE ARE THEN GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DOING AN UPDATE TO THE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN, WHICH WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2017- 2018. UPDATING THAT PLAN WILL GREATLY HELP INFLUENCE DECISION MAKING MOVING FORWARD ON FUTURE PROJECTS. AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST THIS SLIDE IS MORE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES FOR THE PUBLIC.

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PLEASE INFORM THE CITY OF KNOWN DRAINAGE ISSUES.

THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS THAT DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ISSUES CAN BE MADE KNOWN TO THE CITY.

YOU CAN YOU CAN SUBMIT AN ONLINE REQUEST THROUGH THE REPORT A PROBLEM FEATURE ON THE CITY'S VIRTUAL CITY HALL.

VIA PHONE, THERE'S TWO PHONE NUMBERS AFTER HOURS FOR URGENT ISSUES.

BUT WHERE THE IT'S INVOLVING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THE CITY WILL RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER TO TO CORRECT KNOWN DEFICIENCIES.

WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

WHAT WOULD BE SOME EXAMPLES OF A DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT THEY CAN REPORT? SO THEIR PUBLIC STORM DRAIN LINES THAT COULD GET CLOGGED WITH GARBAGE OR LANDSCAPING DEBRIS, IT COULD BE STANDING WATER IN A PUBLIC STREET THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IS ONE OF THE ORDINANCES THAT HAS BEEN SENT OVER TO MR. LOWRY TO REVIEW REGARDING OUR MAPPING OF FLOODPLAINS, BECAUSE I KNOW CURRENTLY OUR ORDINANCES ONLY REQUIRE US TO DO FEMA FLOODPLAINS. AND AS DISCUSSED AT THE RECENT P&Z MEETING THE ONES THAT ARE CREATED WITH THE CITY AND WITH DEVELOPERS AND ARE NOT A PART OF FEMA ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE RECORDED, AND WHICH WOULD THEN MEAN IN ORDER TO FIND THEM, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW EVERY DEVELOPMENTS EVER TO FIND THEM AND TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD AND MAP THEM.

SO THERE ARE FLOODPLAINS OUT THERE THAT MANY OF US DON'T KNOW ABOUT, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T HERE WHEN THEY WERE ADDED.

THE ORDINANCE ALSO DOES NOT REQUIRE FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS AS, LIKE A ZONING CHANGE WHERE WE NEED TO BE INFORMING THE NEIGHBORING HOUSES THAT THEIR HOUSE IS NOW A FLOOD ZONE.

WHICH IS CONCERNING, BECAUSE NOW THEY NEED FLOOD INSURANCE AND IT IMPACTS THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME.

AND IF SOMEONE WERE TO WANT TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAD A FLOODPLAIN IN THEIR PROPERTY, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW TO ASK, BECAUSE WE DON'T RECORD THOSE. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE LOOKING AT TO START, INCLUDING IN OUR GSI MAPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, TO, TO RECORD THEM SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE ALL OF OUR FLOODPLAINS ARE, NOT JUST FEMA. SO DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND DRAINAGE AREAS ARE, ARE LOCATED ON PLATS.

THEY ARE RECORDED AS PART OF THE FILE DOCUMENT THAT'S APPROVED BY THIS BODY.

SO THOSE ARE KNOWN AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

WE AREN'T ALLOWING ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN IN DRAINAGE EASEMENTS.

BUT IT'S THE CREATED FLOODPLAINS THAT ARE MADE BY DEVELOPERS WHEN WHICH IS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THERE IS AN ITEM WITH A CREATED FLOODPLAIN WHICH WILL NOT BE REQUIRED FOR US TO MAP OR TRACK.

AND AGAIN, IN ORDER TO KNOW THAT THAT EXISTS, SOMEONE JUST HAS TO KNOW, BECAUSE IT MAY BE RECORDED ON THESE MAPS THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO US, BUT WE OURSELVES ARE NOT MAKING IT EASY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OUT THERE FOR A RESIDENT TO GO ON TO THE WEBSITE, CLICK A MAP AND BE LIKE, OH, MY HOUSE IS IN A FLOODPLAIN.

YES OR NO? YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO FIND OUT IF YOU'RE IN A FEMA FLOODPLAIN, NOT IN ONES THAT ARE CREATED.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE. BUT AS I'VE SERVED AS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, WE'RE NOT PERMITTING ANY RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO BE IN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

SO YEAH, THAT'S THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

MAYBE MAKE THAT QUESTION A LITTLE MORE CLEAR. HOW WE CREATED ANY FLOOD FLOODPLAINS BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENTS, HAVE A DEVELOPMENT CREATED ANY FLOODPLAINS FROM YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT IS NOT REPORTED? NO. AND I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S A FEMA FLOODPLAIN AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS, WHICH THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS, FINAL PLATS THAT COME BEFORE YOU THAT CREATE AND DEFINE DRAINAGE AREAS THAT ARE PREEXISTING, THEY PUT THEM IN AN EASEMENT ON A FINAL PLAT.

THOSE ARE NOT CREATING NEW FEMA FLOODPLAINS. SO A DIFFERENCE OF ALL THE WATERWAYS, I'M GUESSING ALL THE WATER FLOWING OFF THE PROPERTY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO A CERTAIN AREA IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD OR OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

THEY'RE ALL BEING DRAINED THROUGH AN EASEMENT THAT, THAT THEY OWN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

CORRECT. SO LOT TO LOT DRAINAGE IS NOT PERMITTED IN THE CITY.

SO ALL STORMWATER FLOWS INTO EITHER PUBLIC STREETS IN THE CURB AND GUTTER, AND THEN IT GOES INTO DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN EASEMENTS.

THAT WATER IS THEN CONVEYED INTO NATURAL CREEKS, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE A FEMA FLOODPLAIN.

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AND THAT WATER EVENTUALLY THEN MAKES IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TICKEY CREEK AND INTO LAKE LAVON.

BUT DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT LITERALLY SAYS POST-PROJECT FLOODPLAIN ON HERE, THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY IN AT PLANNING AND ZONING SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THAT CLARIFIED FOR EVERYONE.

SURE. THAT'S A 100 YEAR STORM EVENT THAT THAT LINE THAT'S SHOWN ON THE I ASSUME YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE EAST RIDGE PHASE FOUR PLAT.

YES. YES, THAT'S THAT'S THE 100 YEAR STORM EVENT THAT THAT IS THE LINE THAT'S BEING SHOWN WITHIN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS ON THAT PLAT, IT'S NOT A FEMA FLOODPLAIN. CORRECT. BUT IT SAYS POST-PROJECT FLOODPLAIN.

SO IS THAT BEING MAPPED ON OUR GIS MAPS SO THAT ANYONE WHO LIVES THERE IS AWARE.

AND DO THOSE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT IS POST. SO THAT'S AFTER NOT PRE SO BEFORE.

SO THIS IS AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT THIS IS HERE.

HAVE WE INFORMED THOSE RESIDENTS THAT THAT IS A POST PROJECT FLOODPLAIN IN THAT AREA.

SURE. IT'S ON THE PLAT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

WE DO NOT SHOW IT ON OUR GIS MAP. SO WE COULD EXPLORE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY INTENSE PROJECT TO MAP EVERY DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

BUT IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S WISH, WE COULD EXPLORE THAT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION. IS THAT ON SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE LAND, OR IS THAT IS THE EASEMENT THAT THEY OWN, THAT FLOODPLAIN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? IT'S WITHIN THE HOA LOT.

IT'S ON A COMMON AREA LOT. THAT 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ANYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD THERE IN THE FUTURE? NO ONE COULD BUILD THERE. NO, IT'S NOT WITHIN INDIVIDUAL LOTS.

THE LINE SAYS CITY LIMIT AND IT CUTS DOWN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE FLOODPLAIN.

SO IT'S THE FLOODPLAIN IS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT LINE.

AND THE DEVELOPER OWNS THE LOT ON THE ADJACENT SIDE, IT'S FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE AND FLOODPLAINS AND RESIDENTS ACTUALLY EXPERIENCING PROBLEMS LATELY. SO I'M THINKING, AS I REVIEWED AND PREPARED FOR THE MEETING TODAY, I SAW THAT FLOODPLAINS WERE CLEARLY ALLOCATED IN IN THE MAPS THAT WERE GIVEN.

AND SO MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS PLACE ON OUR WEBSITE AN AREA OF LIKE IN FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT THAT WE CAN HAVE RESIDENTS WHO ALERT THEM BUILDING IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, OR CONSIDERING BUYING A HOME, THAT THIS IS A CHECKLIST OF THINGS THAT YOU MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND WE CAN ADD IT THERE BECAUSE AS I LOOK, I SEE THAT THE CITY IS TAKING ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THE MAPS INCLUDE THE REGULATORY INFORMATION. HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE ANY AFTER EFFECTS, THE CITY WILL IS NOT RESPONSIBLE BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

BUT FOR RESIDENTS, IT WOULD BE WISE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOMETHING THAT SAID, ASK THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS SO AT LEAST YOU COULD HAVE SOME COMFORT LEVEL THAT THE PURCHASE THAT YOU'RE MAKING IS ONE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, BECAUSE WE CANNOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS WITH EROSION AND ALL THE OTHER EVENTS THAT WILL OCCUR AFTER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN VETTED OCCURS.

AND SO I THINK IT WISE THAT AS WE HAVE MORE RESIDENTS COMING INTO PRINCETON, AND AS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR HOMES THAT WE DIRECT THEM TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AND THAT INFORMATION WILL BE THERE TO ASSIST THEM IN MAKING A WISE AND INFORMED CHOICE ABOUT WHERE THEY RESIDE. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. AND I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

SO LET'S JUST SAY FOR SOME REASON WATER IS NOT BEING DIRECTED TO THESE EASEMENTS AND THEY'RE COMING OFF THE PROPERTY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WHO'S ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? BECAUSE LET'S JUST SAY THIS DEVELOPMENT [INAUDIBLE] THE PROPERTY THEY DON'T DEVELOP ON IT FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS OR SO. WHO IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE ABOUT THAT IF THERE IS WATER WASTE COMING FROM A DIFFERENT AREA THAT WASN'T THAT WASN'T PLANNED ON THE PLAT? YEAH. WITHOUT KNOWING A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL.

IT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON THE SITUATION. IF IF THE IF THE PUBLIC HAS QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE MYSELF AND YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE TO, TO INVESTIGATE THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.

IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

NO, I'M JUST SAYING BUT THIS PROPERTY HERE, LET'S JUST SAY THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR, WELL, NOT EAST RIDGE, BUT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER, AND THEY JUST DO A STUDY THEMSELVES, RIGHT.

LET'S SAY NEXT WEEK THEY DO A STUDY AND WATER IS COMING INTO THEIR PROPERTY.

WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? WOULD IT BE THE DEVELOPER? THE CITY THE CITY APPROVED IT, OR WHO'S ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE?

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SO THE CITY'S DRAINAGE CRITERIA IS SUCH THAT A GIVEN PROPERTY THAT'S A SUBJECT PROPERTY GOT 100 ACRES, TODAY IT'S UNDEVELOPED. IT'S JUST HYPOTHETICAL, FOR EXAMPLE.

CURRENTLY, RAINWATER FALLS ON THAT PROPERTY, RAINWATER DRAINS OFF OF THAT PROPERTY INTO NATURAL DRAINAGE WAYS AT A GIVEN RATE.

THE CITY'S CRITERIA IS THAT YOU TAKE THAT PRE-DEVELOPMENT FLOW, THE AMOUNT OF WATER AT A GIVEN RATE THAT IT'S LEAVING THE SITE, AND AT THE POST-DEVELOPMENT STATE, IT CAN'T EXCEED THOSE FLOWS OR RATES, AND DEVELOPERS WILL COMPENSATE FOR THAT BY BUILDING DETENTION PONDS THAT WILL COLLECT WATER AND HOLD IT, AND THEN RELEASE IT SLOWLY BACK INTO THE NATURAL DRAINAGE WAYS.

SO IF A DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE CITY'S DRAINAGE CRITERIA, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEMS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WATER NATURALLY FLOWED OFF OF SITES BEFORE DEVELOPMENT.

IF THEY DEVELOP EXCUSE ME CORRECTLY, IT WOULD AIM AT THAT SAME AMOUNT AND SAME RATE.

BUT IF THERE WAS A FAILURE IN PRIVATE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT WOULD BE ON THE NEIGHBORING DEVELOPMENT TO FIX.

IF IT'S IT'S AN ISSUE WITH THE CITY'S DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'LL EXPLORE THAT AND FIX WHERE NEEDED.

I THINK PART OF IT COMES IN AND I SAID, I'VE SAID THIS A MILLION TIMES.

I FEEL YOUR TEAM NEEDS MORE PEOPLE FOR TWO OF THE DEVELOPMENTS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, I'VE WALKED BOTH THOSE PROPERTIES AND THERE ARE DEFINITE DRAINAGE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY ARE MEETING OUR CRITERIA AND IT IS BLATANT THAT THEY ARE NOT. AND I TOOK PICTURES.

AND SO I HAVE THEM WITH ME TODAY. SO IT'S IT'S CONCERNING BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND I THINK WHEN WE DID THE MATH EUGENE, WAS IT LIKE 70? IF YOU WERE, IF YOUR TEAM WORKED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, THEY WOULD BE DOING 70 INSPECTIONS A DAY.

AND THEY'RE NOT WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AND I DID WALK WITH YOU ALL THOSE INSPECTIONS ARE NOT FAST.

THEY REQUIRE DETAIL. WHEN THE CONCRETE IS BEING POURED IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WATCHED AND MONITORED, LIKE THERE'S SOME FOUNDATIONS THAT WE MAY WANT TO GO BACK AND CHECK THAT HAVE BEEN POURED.

I DON'T THINK THAT YOU ARE PROPERLY STAFFED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON ALL OF THESE HOUSES AND DEVELOPMENTS AND STILL ENSURE THAT ALL OF THESE VITAL CODES ARE BEING UPHELD.

AND THAT CONCERNS ME A GREAT DEAL, NOT JUST FOR OUR CITY, BUT FOR YOUR TEAM AS WELL.

LIKE THAT IS A HUGE BURDEN TO CARRY, AND I AM SURE EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMES OVER WITH MORE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS, THAT IS ANOTHER BURDEN FOR Y'ALL TO BE CARRYING BECAUSE YOU'RE OUT THERE DOING THE BEST THAT YOU CAN WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT.

AND SO I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T STOP A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS FROM HAPPENING BECAUSE THE AGREEMENTS WERE SIGNED BEFOREHAND.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVING CONDITIONAL APPROVALS ANYMORE, BECAUSE IF A PROPERTY IS NOT READY, THEN IT'S NOT READY, AND IT NEEDS TO GET READY.

AND WHEN IT'S DONE AND IT DOES MEET ALL OF OUR CODES, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BUT THESE CONDITIONAL APPROVALS ARE RUSHING THROUGH, AND I FEEL MAKING YOUR TEAM RUN AROUND IN CIRCLES TRYING TO KEEP GOING.

AND I'M I'M CONCERNED FOR THAT [APPLAUSE]. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE? I SAID I WAS THE LAST TIME I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS EVERYBODY KNOW, WE DO HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE CITY FROM PAST DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS NOW.

AND, BUT I THINK THE CITY IS STILL GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF TRAUMA FROM THE PAST, AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE BUILDING AND THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING OUR CODE THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING BECAUSE WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE NOT IN THE PAST. SO I DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING IS SPECIFIC TO ANY ONE DEVELOPMENT HERE.

I THINK WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOUBLE CHECKING AND TRIPLE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING CODE, BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THESE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE COMPLETED AND THEY WEREN'T.

SO WE JUST LIKE I SAID, IF I GET THE PASSION FROM EVERYBODY, BUT JUST UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT PERSONAL AGAINST ANYBODY.

IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES NOW. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF IT, WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FIX A LOT OF IT'S KIND OF IS IT IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. BUT WE DON'T.

I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE IN FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE AGAIN. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOUBLE CHECKING AND TRIPLE CHECKING THAT WE'RE COVERING OUR MISTAKES FROM THE PAST. UNDERSTOOD. I THINK THAT IS ALL FOR THAT NOW.

[00:20:04]

MAYOR, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE JUST A FEW COMMENTS AND THINGS, BECAUSE SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE THE DRAINAGE ISSUES AND REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FLOODPLAIN MAPS ITSELF. FLOODPLAIN MAPS ARE WE HAVE FLOODPLAIN MANAGER IN COLLIN COUNTY, COUNTY ENGINEER'S FLOODPLAIN MANAGER, AND THEY'RE UPDATING THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN MAPS AS WE SPEAK.

DENTON COUNTY'S ALREADY APPROVED THEIRS, AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE HAVE FLOODPLAIN MAPS IS WHENEVER PEOPLE BUILD, THEY DETERMINE HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO THE FLOODPLAIN AND WHETHER THEY NEED TO GET FLOOD INSURANCE OR NOT AND QUALIFY FOR THAT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY. NOW, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EARTH MOVING.

WE DO HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES, BUT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE ALL THAT'S DIRECTED, ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE, IS DIRECTED NOT ONLY TO THE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TO, TO, TO HURT THEIR PROPERTY, BUT TO GO TO THE TRIBUTARIES OR THE CREEKS AND THINGS LIKE IT NEEDS TO GO.

AND WHENEVER THEY INTERRUPT THE NORMAL FLOW OF THE WATER THAT GOES TO THOSE AREAS, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE AN ISSUE.

SO IT'S REALLY A DRAINAGE ISSUE MORE THAN FLOODPLAIN ISSUE.

THE FLOODPLAIN IS A NATURAL THING, AND IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN TO THE LAKE AND IN THE SERVICE FOR FUTURE FOR WATER.

BUT BUT WE REALLY PROBABLY WE DO HAVE SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES.

I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME PLACES, STREETS IN TOWN THAT HAVE WATER STANDING.

AND THAT'S A MORE OF AN ENGINEERING PROBLEM. BUT IF THEY WERE ENGINEERED PROPERLY AND THEN IT WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO THE STORM DRAINS AND DRAIN IN THE PROPER FASHION THAT IT NEEDS TO GO. FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION DOES DEFORESTATION HAVE ANYTHING TO DO AND LIKE UNDERGROUND WATER HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT RESULT AFTER DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED? IN MY OPINION, IT DOES IMPACT DRAINAGE OR VEGETATION AND TREES, HELP HOLD IN WATER AND SLOW DOWN THE FLOWS OF STORMWATER, YES. AS I'VE I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PRINCETON FOR AT LEAST A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS, AND IN THAT TIME I'VE SEEN SUCH DEFORESTATION THAT IT CONCERNS ME.

I SEE CRITTERS BEING RUN OVER JUST SO MANY THINGS HAPPENING.

AND IN THE DEVELOPMENTS THERE IS LIKE ONE TREE PLACED IN THE FRONT YARD, ANOTHER IN THE BACK YARD.

IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO OR ASK DEVELOPERS TO ADD LIKE MORE TREES IN THAT IT HOLDS THE SOIL TOGETHER, BECAUSE WITH THAT DEFORESTATION, THE SOIL BECOMES LOOSE AND WITH RAIN THERE'S EROSION, BOTH EROSION AND UNDERNEATH THE GROUND THERE'S EROSION ON BOTH LEVELS. AND I THINK THAT CONTRIBUTES SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE ISSUES THAT RESIDENTS ARE DEALING WITH.

WHERE IS IT A CITY PROBLEM OR IS IT A DEVELOPMENT PROBLEM? IT'S AN IT'S A IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

SURE. YEAH, WITH EACH DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY'S ORDINANCES AT LARGE, WE COULD LOOK AT ENHANCING LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS OR TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS THAT COULD BE BUTTONED UP. WE HAVE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND IT COULD DEFINITELY USE SOME IMPROVEMENT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLORE THESE, TO BE ADDED TO OUR LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW.

SO SURE, I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. AND CAROLYN, SHE REMINDED ME ANOTHER ONE WE SHOULD LOOK AT IS WHEN DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO REVIEW THE THE IMPACT OF THEIR WATER THEY, THEY DO THE STUDY, THEY THEY SEE THE IMPACT OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE WAY OUR EASEMENT OR SORRY OUR ORDINANCE ARE WRITTEN, THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO CARE ABOUT THE UNDERGROUND WATER, NOT THE SURFACE WATER PER OUR ORDINANCES. ALL THE WAY AROUND.

THE WAY THAT OUR WE HAVE ORDINANCES WRITTEN, IT'S CONSTANTLY CITING UNDERGROUND WATER.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE SHEET FLOW AND THE SURFACE WATER, IT IS VERY, VERY MINIMAL ON WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE CARE OF, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT TO TIGHTEN UP A BIT AND PUT SOME MORE ENFORCEMENT AND REGULATION THERE. SURE, IF YOU COULD SEND ME SPECIFICS, THINGS TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I HAVE A GOOGLE SHEET FOR YOU THAT I STARTED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? OTHER THAN I DO REALLY APPRECIATE YOU CRAIG AND YOUR DEPARTMENT.

[00:25:04]

I JUST REALLY, REALLY WANT TO GET YOU THE SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN THRIVE BECAUSE YOU ARE THE BACKBONE OF THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY.

THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL TAKE US TO ITEM D DISCUSSION AND REVIEW AGENDA ITEMS, MRS.

[D. DISCUSS AND REVIEW AGENDA ITEMS]

COOK. THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE MAIN MEETING AGENDA.

NO FORMAL ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE PRE-MEETING, AS ANY FORMAL ACTION SHALL ONLY OCCUR DURING THE MAIN MEETING.

I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO PULL K12 FROM THE REGULAR AGENDA TO EXECUTIVE, I BELIEVE, AND G5 AND G7 FROM THE ARE YOU WANTING THAT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE, TOO? IS THAT FROM THE CONSENT? TO G7? G7 SHOULD GO TO EXECUTIVE.

OKAY. BUT WE'RE PULLING GOING TO BE PULLING G7, G5 AND WHAT ELSE? YOU SAID G6 FROM THE CONSENT OR JUST G7 AND G 5? MAYOR IF I, IF I MAY MAY ALL THE PULLING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA WE'LL DO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE REGULAR PORTION.

OKAY. REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS YOU MENTIONED IN EXECUTIVE.

JUST WHEN YOU READ OFF THE PROVISIONS, JUST JUST NOTE WHICH ITEMS. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT. THAT WOULD TAKE US INTO OUR EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER TERMS OF CHAPTER 551 OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

[E. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

AND CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO A CLOSED SESSION OR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY.

THIS IS GOING TO BE IN REFERENCE TO K12 AND G7.

AND I'M GOING TO PUT G5 ON THERE AS WELL. AND THEN ALSO SECTION 551 OF 0.072 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE LIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY. APPROXIMATELY 42 ACRE PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF WEST FARM TO MARKET 6 EAST OF NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 78 SOUTH OF CR 543 AND WEST OF CR 593.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PLACED 6. WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO INTO THIS EXECUTIVE ON THIS MATTER.

WE DON'T I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ME PERSONALLY HAVE ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION TO JUSTIFY THAT.

SO WE WILL NOT BE HAVING EXECUTIVE ABOUT THAT.

AND THE TIME IS 5:58, THIS WILL TAKE US INTO EXECUTIVE.

ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 6:51 AND THIS WILL TAKE US OUT OF EXECUTIVE.

ALL RIGHT. THERE IS NO ACTIONS TO TO TAKE ON EXECUTIVE.

THIS WILL MOVE US TO ADJOURNMENT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 6:51.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.