[A. CALL TO ORDER-MAYOR]
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          THIS WILL TAKE US RIGHT INTO OUR SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. 
          THE TIME IS 6:49. TODAY IS GOING TO BE MAY 27TH,
2025, AND WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. 
          MISS DAVID GRAVES HERE. MISS TODD HERE. MISS JOHNSON HERE. 
          MR. WASHINGTON HERE. MR. GERFERS HERE. MR. DEFFIBAUGH IS NOT HERE. 
          MR. LONG HERE, AND I EUGENE IS HERE. ALL RIGHT. 
          THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR INVOCATION BY JOHN PROM. 
          FATHER, WE JUST COME BEFORE YOU THANKING YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO PETITION YOU
FOR THIS CITY GOD. 
          WE JUST COME AND, LORD, WE JUST WE JUST ASK YOU TO HELP US,
LEAD US, GUIDE US, SPEAK TO US, HELP US TO MAKE THIS THE GREATEST CITY THAT WE CAN. 
          A CITY THAT WILL GLORIFY YOU. FATHER, I LIFT UP THIS COUNCIL TO YOU AND THESE CITIZENS TO
YOU, AND , LORD, GIVE US WISDOM, FOR YOUR WORD SAYS THAT IF ANY MAN LACK WISDOM,
THAT ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK, AND WE ASK FOR WISDOM AND EVERY DECISION THAT'S BEING MADE. 
          LORD, WE JUST WE JUST LAY IT BEFORE YOU, GOD,
WE SURRENDER TO YOU AND ASKING YOU TO SHOW US AND LEAD US AS YOUR WORD TELLS US THAT YOU ORDAIN THE STEPS OF THE RIGHTEOUS, THAT YOU PLAN THE PATHS OF THE GODLY,
AND FATHER, WE JUST ASK YOU TO STRAIGHTEN EVERY ROAD THAT'S CROOKED, PAVE EVERY ROAD THAT'S ROCKY, AND WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR IT. 
          IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS,
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG,
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT OF ORDER ON THIS. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IS HERE FOR THE
EMERGENCY SERVICES. 
          [K1. 2025-142 Presentation and discussion regarding fire protection services provided to unincorporated areas of Collin County, presented by Fire Chief Stephens.]
I WANT TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION AND THEN ALLOW EVERYBODY TO SPEAK AFTER. 
          JUST SO IT MIGHT BE SOME INFORMATION OR IT MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS CAN ASK
AFTER WE PRESENT. 
          SO THAT WOULD TAKE US INTO THAT WOULD TAKE US INTO STRAIGHT INTO. 
          SORRY. MAKE SURE THAT'S THE FIRST ONE ON THE AGENDA INTO K1 IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD. 
          ALL RIGHT. AS THE PRESENTATION IS COMING UP,
I'LL SAY GOOD GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS AGENDA
ITEM WITH YOU AND HELP COMMUNICATE SOME OF THE FACTS REGARDING SOME OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT CAME OUT LAST WEEK AND HAVE A OR FACILITATE A GOOD DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL IN TERMS
OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE RESPONSES OUT IN COLLIN COUNTY. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE VERY FIRST BULLET POINT COLLIN COUNTY DOES NOT
HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO WHILE COLLIN COUNTY MAY NOT OPERATE ITS OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT,
THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASSUMED FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIRE PROTECTION IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS BY CONTRACTING WITH THE 22 MUNICIPAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN
COLLIN COUNTY. 
          THAT DECISION MADE THEM THE SOLE ACCOUNTABLE BODY FOR INSURING THESE RESIDENTS RECEIVE
RELIABLE FIRE PROTECTION. 
          THIS IS NOT A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. IT IS THEIRS,
AND WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY COMES THE OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THESE AGREEMENTS AND TO COMMUNICATE CLEARLY AND HONESTLY WITH THEIR RESIDENTS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE BEING
PROVIDED. 
          CURRENTLY, THE COUNTY PROVIDES FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES ON A CONTRACT BASIS WITH 22 CAREER
DEPARTMENTS, CAREER AND VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY. 
          IN 2013, THEY FUNDED $950,000 THAT WAS SPLIT BASED ON MILES SQUARE MILES COVERED AND
POPULATION SERVED. 
          THIS FUNDING HAS NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 2013 WHATSOEVER. 
          MELISSA WITHDREW FROM THE AGREEMENT OCTOBER 1ST,
2024. 
          MCKINNEY, WYLIE, FARMERSVILLE HAVE PLANS TO WITHDRAW OCTOBER 1ST,
2025, AS WELL AS OUR ANNOUNCEMENT MADE LAST WEEK. 
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THE CURRENT SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH COLLIN COUNTY INCREASES OUR SERVICE AREA BY 55MI² AND
INCREASES OUR POPULATION BY 11,000 PEOPLE. 
          SO OUR DECISION WAS MADE LAST WEEK, IN ESSENCE,
TO BETTER SERVE AND BETTER POSITION OUR RESOURCES TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF PRINCETON. 
          PRINCETON IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, BUT THE COLLIN COUNTY CONTRACT AND AGREEMENT BRINGS
UP A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TALKING POINTS. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS BRANCH, THE BACKGROUND WITH THE BRANCH VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          IN THE END OF 2021, IT WAS IN THE PROCESS OF SHUTTING DOWN. 
          THE FIRE CHIEF APPROACHED OUR ADMINISTRATION,
AND OUR ADMINISTRATION AT THE TIME SAW THIS AS A REVENUE GENERATOR IN TERMS OF PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS WITHIN THE PENINSULA. 
          I'D LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO REFERENCE AN EXCERPT FROM THE PRINCETON HERALD IN TERMS OF WHAT
THE RETIRING FIRE CHIEF, JIMMY KNIPP, SAID SPECIFICALLY, GROWTH OF NEIGHBORING DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS BRIDGEWATER HAS
MADE IT HARD FOR BRANCH VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COPE WITH THE INCREASED DEMANDS FOR SERVICES. WE DID NOT SOLVE THIS INCREASED DEMAND FOR SERVICES
WHEN WE DECIDED TO PROVIDE FIRE SERVICES. 
          WE INHERITED THIS PROBLEM. THERE IS NO STOP TO THIS. 
          THERE IS NO ESTIMATE IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTED GROWTH THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE TO US. 
          SO WHEN IT COMES FOR LONG TERM PLANNING, WE HAVE A SERIOUS LIMITATION IN TERMS OF WHAT
THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE TO OUR SERVICES WITHIN THE NEXT 5, 10, 15 YEARS. PRINCETON BEGAN OPERATING OUT OF THE BRANCH VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT APRIL
1ST, 2022. ANY BELIEF THAT PRINCETON FORCEFULLY TOOK OVER THE BRANCH VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT
IS SIMPLY FALSE. 
          THIS IS THE FIRE SERVICE AREA THAT WE STARTED COVERING. 
          IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE DARK BROWN THAT'S LABELED BR FD,
WHEN PRINCETON BEGAN PROVIDING FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES IN APRIL OF 2022 THAT IS WHAT WE TOOK ON. WE TOOK ON THE ENTIRE PENINSULA, INCLUDING THE TWO MUDS. 
          FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE GREAT PROVIDERS OF RESOURCES,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE PROPERLY EQUIPPED, TRAINED AND LED. WE ARE TERRIBLE REVENUE GENERATORS. 
          WE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. JUST OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT ALONE CONSTITUTES ABOUT 25% OF OUR ENTIRE
CITY BUDGET. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT POSITIONING US TO GENERATE A REVENUE FOR A CITY,
THE STICKER SHOCK IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. 
          SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE NOW, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL TRUE COST TO PROVIDE
SERVICES TO THE COUNTY, THE TRUE COST TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO THE MUDS ARE NOT AN ADEQUATE REPRESENTATION OF
WHAT THE CITY OF PRINCETON IS ACTUALLY OUTSOURCING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I ASK YOU GUYS TO CONCENTRATE ON,
WE ARE ALLOWING COLLIN COUNTY TO OUTSOURCE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES, THIS IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. IT IS NOT THE CITY OF PRINCETON'S. 
          SO SOME OF OUR CORE ISSUES OPERATIONAL STRAIN. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR GROWTH TRAJECTORY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ALLOCATION OF OUR CITY
RESOURCES, WE NEED THESE RESOURCES NOW. WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN THE
COUNTRY. 
          WE KNOW WE NEED TO POSITION OUR RESOURCES IN THE NORTH PART OF THE CITY,
WHICH IS UNDERSERVED AT THIS CURRENT TIME. 
          SO WITH THIS, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO ABSORB THAT GROWTH WITHOUT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL
IMPACT, WITHOUT CONFLICTING OR COMPETING FOR FIXED RESOURCES WITH THE OTHER AREAS THAT THE CITY
NEEDS TO GROW IN TERMS OF POLICE PROTECTION AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND THIS ALLUDES OR GETS TO A FISCAL IMPACT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ALLOCATING
OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. 
          THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE CONSTITUTE ABOUT 25% OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET,
AND REPRESENT ABOUT 26% OF OUR TOTAL CALL VOLUME OUTSIDE. 
          LAST YEAR, IN 2024, WE RAN 1200 CALLS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. 
          WHEN WE RUN A CALL OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMIT, OUR CITY LIMITS,
A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPEN. 
          WE ARE NOT ABLE TO RESPOND WITH OUR FULL DEPLOYMENT MODEL. 
          SO WHEN OUR GUYS TRAIN AND MORE OR LESS GO THROUGH THEIR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO
RESPOND TO OUR EMERGENCIES, WE DO IT WITH A FOUR FIREHOUSE DEPLOYMENT MODEL AND A BATTALION CHIEF. 
          WHEN WE RESPOND OUTSIDE THE CITY, WE CAN ONLY GIVE HALF OUR RESOURCES OUT THERE BECAUSE WE
CAN'T NOT STAFF AND NOT SERVE THE CITY OF PRINCETON, BUT WHAT WE'RE ULTIMATELY DOING IS WE'RE SERVING THE CITY WITH HALF THE RESOURCES AT THIS
TIME. 
          WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF STORMS THAT COME HAVE COME THROUGH OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN, NOT IF, WE HAVE COMPETING LIGHTNING STRIKE FIRES AND WE HAVE HALF
OUR RESOURCES OUTSIDE THE CITY BATTLING A FIRE AND HALF INSIDE. THE CITIZENS OF PRINCETON DESERVE THE ENTIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY ARE
FUNDING. 
          SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ANY QUESTIONS, I DO ASK THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER MY MY FINAL
STATEMENT IN TERMS OF LET'S BEING HONEST IN THAT GOODWILL IS NOT A 
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STRATEGY. FOR YEARS, MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENTS LIKE PRINCETON HAVE STEPPED UP TO COVER THE
COUNTY SERVICE GAP WITHOUT ADEQUATE FUNDING. 
          THAT BURDEN HAS GROWN UNSUSTAINABLE. THE COUNTY CANNOT CONTINUE TO OUTSOURCE ITS
RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          THE DUTY TO PROVIDE FIRE AND EMS PROTECTION TO UNINCORPORATED RESIDENTS LIES SOLELY WITH
THE COUNTY, AND IT'S TIME THEY OWN IT, FUND IT, AND EXPLAIN TO THEIR CITIZENS THEY WERE ELECTED TO
SERVE THE TRUE REALITIES OF THEIR EMERGENCY SERVICES. SO WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I CAN. OKAY. THANK YOU,
CHIEF, FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          THE QUESTION I HAVE, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE MAP WHERE IT SHOWS THE FIRE DISTRICTS. 
          SO THERE YOU GO. THE ORIGINAL OR THE ONE WITH BRANCH HIGHLIGHTED? OKAY. THIS ONE WILL SERVE JUST FINE. SO WITH US REMOVING SERVICES IN OCTOBER 1ST,
DO WE AUTOMATICALLY. 
          I'M SORRY. HYPOTHETICALLY, IF WE WERE NOT REMOVING SERVICES OCTOBER 1ST,
WOULD WE AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THAT THE DISTRICTS THERE WERE, LIKE MCKINNEY IS SHOWN THERE, AS WELL AS THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE COMING OUT? SO THAT'S A VALID POINT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE GAVE THE SAME
NOTIFICATION OF US, THERE ARE NO EXISTING FIRE DEPARTMENTS BETWEEN LUCAS AND BLUE RIDGE TO COVER THAT AREA
THAT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT IS ADDRESSED. 
          OKAY, AND SO THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING ON THAT FIRE STATION, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF IT IS KIND OF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WHAT WE'RE SPENDING OUR
MONEY ON, ON, ON THESE CALLS, BUT WHAT DOES WHAT DOES IT COST TO KEEP THAT BRANCH STATION NUMBER
FOUR OPEN? SO OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS $4.7 MILLION FOR THIS YEAR. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY HALF OUR RESOURCES WITHOUT INCLUDING CAPITAL EXPENSES,
THAT COMES DOWN TO $1.175-1 .2 MILLION, AND THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS US PER YEAR TO KEEP THAT STATION OPEN? CORRECT. ON AVERAGE, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR COUNTY CALLS,
WE RECEIVE ABOUT $150 PER CALL THAT WE RESPOND OUTSIDE THE CITY, WHICH IS A REPRESENTATION OF ABOUT ONE TENTH TO 1/15 OF THE TRUE COST. 
          CHIEF, YOU SAY HERE THAT MELISSA HAS ALREADY WITHDRAWN AS OF LAST YEAR. 
          SO THAT MEANS THERE'S AREAS THAT THEY ONCE WERE UNDER AGREEMENT AND THEY NO LONGER ARE. 
          WHO COVERS THOSE AREAS CURRENTLY? SO RIGHT NOW THE OTHER VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVE
STEPPED UP. 
          VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS CAN USE THIS AS A REVENUE GENERATOR. 
          WHEN WE SAY $150 PER CALL ON AVERAGE FOR US,
THAT'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND CALL VOLUME. 
          THAT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES A DETRIMENT TO US WHEN WE LOOK AT
THE TRUE COST. 
          HOWEVER, TO A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT COULD BE A GOOD SOURCE OF REVENUE,
AND ANOTHER QUESTION IF MELISSA MCKINNEY, WYLIE, FARMERSVILLE, EVERYBODY PULLS OUT AND WE STAY IN OUR AREA,
IT GROW AND EXPAND. 
          WE WILL HAVE THAT EXPECTATION TO. WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTROL A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FATE WITHIN
OUR CONTRACT AND SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO EXPAND PAST OUR BOUNDARIES. 
          HOWEVER, A CERTAIN SITUATION RESTS WITH COLLIN COUNTY DISPATCH. 
          THEY ARE PERFECTLY FINE WITH AUTOMATIC AID, I.E. 
          FIRE DEPARTMENT XYZ DOES NOT RESPOND. THEY GO TO THE NEXT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THERE'S REALLY NO ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING DOWN TO THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT. SO IT'S GOING TO FINALLY RESPOND TO THE CALL. SO JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP THERE, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE NORTH PART OF TOWN NOT TO CALL OUT BLUE
RIDGE, BUT JUST TO USE THEM AS AN EXAMPLE, IF BLUE RIDGE WERE NOT TO RESPOND AND IT'S IN THEIR
DISTRICT, WE'D BE THE NEXT ONES THAT THEY CALL, AND IT WOULD BE UP TO US TO TURN THEM DOWN. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM. WE'LL START WITH WHY DID WE GO WITH A CUT OFF DATE
AND NOT LOOK AT A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD OF SLOWLY TRANSITIONING OVER TO THE NEW SERVICES WITH THEM,
AND WITH THE CUT OFF BEING OCTOBER 1ST AND THEIR ELECTION OPTION FOR THE ESD BEING NOVEMBER, THE GAP THAT WILL EXIST THERE BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN GET SERVICES. 
          SO THAT BRINGS UP A COUPLE OF TALKING POINTS. NUMBER ONE,
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS UNDERSTOOD WE ARE WE WILL BE EXTREMELY PROACTIVE IN TERMS OF REACHING OUT WITH THE TRANSITION, WHATEVER AGENCY IS ULTIMATELY SELECTED. 
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WHETHER THAT'S SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS TO THE ESD OR ANOTHER ORGANIZATION IN THE CASE OF
BRANCH THE I GUESS, THE REINVENTION OF THE BRANCH VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          WHATEVER THAT WOULD TAKE TO GET THEM IN A POSITION OF SERVICE,
WE ARE 100% WILLING TO DO THAT. 
          THE OTHER PART OF THAT CONVERSATION COMES DOWN TO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TIMING OF THE
CONTRACT EXITS. 
          THIS IS FOLLOWING SUIT WITH OUR MUTUAL AID PARTNERS AND THE OTHER PARTNERS WITHIN COLLIN
COUNTY, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GIVES THE COUNTY PLENTY OF TIME. 
          IT'S NOT JUST THIS AREA THAT THEY HAVE TO PHASE ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          IT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN TERMS OF THE CAREER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE EXITING THIS
CONTRACT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE GAVE THE SAME DATE. THE CONTRACT STATES THAT WE ONLY NEEDED TO SERVE THEM
WITH TWO MONTHS, AND WE'RE GIVING THEM AMPLE TIME WITH THAT. MANY OF THE RESIDENTS,
WHEN FINDING OUT ABOUT ALL OF THIS, WERE WONDERING WHY THEY WEREN'T GIVEN A CHOICE TO PAY MORE,
TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR SERVICES. 
          WHY WAS THAT NOT A DISCUSSION PIECE THAT WAS OFFERED TO THEM,
SO THAT SERVICES NEVER HAD TO BE CUT OFF, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FOOTING THE BILL IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY IT,
WHY WASN'T THAT AN OPTION PROVIDED TO THEM? BECAUSE THE NOTIFICATION CAME OUT LAST WEEK,
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT'S ACTUALLY PAYING FOR SERVICE 0% WHATSOEVER. 
          THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR COLLIN COUNTY MUD NUMBER TWO,
WHICH IS BRIDGEWATER. 
          SO THE COLLIN COUNTY WITHDRAWAL SERVICES DOES NOT IMPACT THEM WHATSOEVER. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          ARE IMPACTED, IF THEY WERE WILLING TO PAY, THEY WEREN'T GIVEN AN OPTION. 
          THEY DIDN'T, THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION. THERE WASN'T AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO HAVE THE
INFORMATIONAL PIECE LIKE WE'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW, SO THAT THEY COULD TALK AND VOICE THEIR PART. 
          IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE, TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR SERVICES,
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE TABLE? SO THERE ARE TWO PARTS OF THAT CONVERSATION. SO NUMBER ONE,
ANYTHING THAT IS NECESSARY FOR US TO SUPPORT THE TRANSITION WE ARE 100% COMMITTED TO. 
          WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THEM WILLING TO PAY, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. 
          IT'S NOT SO MUCH A PAYMENT, IT COULD BE SWEAT EQUITY,
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE IN THEIR COMMUNITY FOR THE DECISION OF WHAT KIND OF SERVICES THEY WANT TO PROVIDE. THE OTHER PART OF THAT EQUATION WAS THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION WITH THE
RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON IN TERMS OF, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE OUTSOURCING AND SUBSIDIZING FIRE PROTECTION OUTSIDE THE CITY? THIS BRINGS UP A REALLY INTERESTING TOPIC, BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE HAD A SIMILAR DISCUSSION
IN JUNE, AND WE WERE WONDERING WHAT REMEDIES COULD BE APPLIED,
AND ONE OF THE REMEDIES I SUGGESTED IS THAT AND RECOMMENDED THAT WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT IF WE EVER PULLED OUT OF THE
CONTRACT, IF WE DID NOT RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY AND THE ETJ WAS LEFT WITHOUT SERVICES,
THAT IT MIGHT INCREASE THE INSURANCE COST, IT MIGHT GET INSURANCE CANCELED. SO I RECOMMENDED THAT WE ASSESS AN ADMIN FEE OF ABOUT
$1,500. 
          IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS PROPERTY TAXES, BUT IT WOULD GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO STILL GET
SERVICES FROM US AND MAKE UP THE SHORTFALL OF WHAT THE COUNTY WAS NOT COVERING,
BUT THAT WAS NOT WELL RECEIVED. 
          WE WERE SAYING WE WERE TOLD, WHY ARE YOU ASSESSING A FEE ON THE ETJ? WE DO SUPPORT SERVICES IN PRINCETON WHEN WE COME IN AND WE BUY GOODS AND SERVICES,
YOU GET SALES TAX FROM US, BUT SALES TAX GO TOWARDS MAINTAINING THE ROADWAYS ETC.,
NOT FOR FIRE SERVICE. 
          SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'VE COME AROUND TO THIS ISSUE AGAIN,
BECAUSE IT WAS ONE THAT WE SAW THAT WOULD OCCUR, AND IT IS SAD AND I DO FEEL REALLY BAD FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE ETJ. 
          WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS AS A BOARD, I SAID, WE ARE A GOOD NEIGHBOR WE DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE
THEM WITHOUT SERVICE, BUT THE COUNTY HAS FORCED OUR HAND IT IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY,
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE ESPECIALLY CLEAR. IT IS NOT THAT PRINCETON IS WANTING TO MAKE THE SITUATION A DIFFICULT ONE. 
          IT IS JUST THAT THE COUNTY HAS MADE DECISIONS THAT MADE IT THAT MADE IT UNCONSCIONABLE FOR
US TO CONTINUE 
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PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF SERVICES WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING AT A LOSS,
AND IT'S NOT JUST PRINCETON THAT'S PULLING OUT, WE'VE SEEN MELISSA MCKINNEY, FARMERSVILLE, AND SO NOW WE'RE AT THIS JUNCTURE,
AND THIS IS PROBABLY A DISCUSSION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE. ABSOLUTELY. WE NEVER WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WITHDRAWAL OF EMERGENCY
SERVICES, OBVIOUSLY. HOWEVER, THE VERY HARSH REALITIES ARE THIS IS NOT A UNIVERSAL RIGHT. 
          THE COMMUNITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DECIDING THE LEVEL OF EMERGENCY SERVICES THEY WANT TO
HAVE, AND IF THAT'S A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT IS THEIR DECISION. 
          IF THAT IS A CAREER DEPARTMENT, THAT IS THEIR DECISION. 
          THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH SEVERAL
ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN PROVIDE SERVICES, BUT IT IS A PER COST AND THEY CAN PROVIDE THESE SERVICES WITHIN 60 DAYS. 
          TEXAS HAS ACTUALLY MADE IT VERY ACCOMMODATING FOR DIFFERENT SERVICES TO PROVIDE FIRE
PROTECTION SERVICES TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, IT COMES WITH A COST. 
          THIS IS WHERE A CAREER FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A GREAT RESOURCE FOR A COMMUNITY,
AND I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO DO GREATER AND GREATER THINGS FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON. 
          HOWEVER, WE ARE LIMITED THE MOMENT WE SERVE AND WE OUTSOURCE OUTSIDE OUR CITY LIMITS,
BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, IT IS 100% THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY TO COMMUNICATE THIS AND MAINTAIN THESE
CONTRACTS. 
          WE COULD NOT OPERATE OFF THE SAME BUDGET THAT WE HAD IN 2013 AND PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF
SERVICE. 
          I WANT TO REVISIT A QUESTION THAT WAS ALREADY ASKED,
AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS ASKED THIS WAY OR IF I GOT THE ANSWER I WAS HOPING TO HEAR. 
          NOT SPEAKING OF A MUD OR A DEVELOPED COMMUNITY,
BUT I'M JUST TALKING COUNTY ROAD WITH A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. 
          UNINCORPORATED. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES LEVY A TAX THAT WOULD
COME TO THE CITY TO PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES ON AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY BASIS? THAT I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO ENLIST GRANT TO
ACTUALLY TELL ME EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, IT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE THE COUNCIL'S DECISION IF THIS IS AN
AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT TO GO THROUGH, I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT IT IS A REPRESENTATION OF OUR TRUE COST,
AND IT'S A REPRESENTATION OF WHEN THE CITY CAN HANDLE PROVIDING THESE SERVICES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND STILL MAINTAIN OUR OWN GROWTH. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I'M JUST TO SPEAK ON THAT. THAT COMES AT A COST TOO,
BECAUSE THE FURTHER OUT THAT WE GO THAT AFFECTS OUR RESPONSE TIMES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO ISO LEVEL ONE AS THE RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON,
AND WE CAN'T GET THOSE RESPONSE TIMES DOWN, THEN THAT ALSO THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE PAYING HIGHER INSURANCE RATES HERE IN TOWN. WE'RE
PAYING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE A FIRE STATION IN CERTAIN AREAS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES EFFECTIVELY
THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. 
          SO I THINK THAT THE COST IS NOT JUST COST PER SERVICE,
BUT WHAT IT ACTUALLY TAKES TO MAINTAIN AND GROW IN A WAY THAT IT BENEFITS EVERYBODY, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE HARD PART, BECAUSE THE COST FOR SERVICES STILL DOESN'T COUNT
FOR BUYING NEW FIRE TRUCKS, BUILDING A NEW FIRE STATION. IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE THAT IS ACTUALLY SUSTAINABLE
IN THE LONG TERM AND NOT JUST A BAND-AID RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THIS WAS A BAND-AID TO BEGIN WITH, AND THIS IS WHAT IT CALLS. 
          SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL FIX,
AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M TALKING WITH MATT MASHBURN AND FIRE CHIEF AND WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE, DO WE HIRE MORE FIREFIGHTERS OR DO WE HIRE MORE,
MORE POLICE, AND WE MAINTAIN THIS RIGHT NOW, SOMEBODY IS NOT GETTING SOMETHING. 
          DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES IS STRUGGLING. WE HAVE HOUSES THAT ARE FLOODING HERE. 
          WE HAVE CRIME, MEAN, LAST YEAR WAS THE HIGHEST CRIME THAT WE'VE PROBABLY EVER HAD IN THE
PAST TEN YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE. 
          THERE ARE SERVICES THAT WE NEED IN TOWN THAT WE JUST CANNOT KEEP ON SENDING OUR MONEY
OUTSIDE OF TOWN. 
          SO IF WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY
AND NOT JUST ONE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE SUFFERING HERE, TOO. CHIEF, QUICKLY, ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS BEING AN ESD,
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? AS FAR AS WHAT THAT ACTUALLY IS, WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE? ABSOLUTELY. SO THE COUNTY APPROVED AN ESD ELECTION. 
          WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE DECISION PROCESS,
WHEN I SAY WE, THE COUNTY, IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FROM A FUNDING SOURCE. SO THE PLANS ARE ACTUALLY TWOFOLD IF THE ESD WERE TO PASS. 
          NUMBER ONE, THEY STABILIZE THE PAYMENTS FOR THE CAREER FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE THESE
SERVICES, AND MORE OR LESS ALLOW THOSE PAYMENTS TO BE A BETTER REPRESENTATION OF THE TRUE COST OF
SERVICE. 
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SO WE'RE NOT OPERATING AT A DEFICIT JUST TO PROVIDE THESE. 
          THE OTHER ASPECT IS TECHNICALLY IT COULD BE A CAREER FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT PROVIDES THOSE
SERVICES THEMSELVES. 
          COLLIN COUNTY ESD NUMBER ONE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE DESIRED OUTCOME. 
          HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE TWO ROADS, THAT IS GOING TO BE DECIDED UPON BY AN
AUTONOMOUS BOARD THAT'S REALLY GOING TO SET THE FATE OF WHAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ESD ONE WILL PROVIDE THE COUNTY. IF IT DOES NOT PASS,
THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE OF SMALLER ESD'S TO PROVIDE SERVICES AROUND THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES. BRANCH WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE IN TERMS OF GETTING THE NECESSARY VOTES TO
MEET THE I GUESS, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN ELECTION FOR THE BRANCH AREA. 
          IT'D ALL BE DECIDED AROUND IN TERMS OF ULTIMATELY,
WHAT ARE THE BOUNDARIES THAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE FOR SO YOU CAN GET INTO SOME OF THOSE TAX COLLECTION ASPECTS TO PROVIDE THOSE LEVEL OF SERVICES,
AND THEN ALSO TO SPEAK TO WHAT CHRISTINA ASKED A QUESTION OF WHY WE DON'T WAIT TILL THE END OF THE VOTING PROCESS. THE THING IS THAT EVEN IF WE WAITED UNTIL THE ESD IS VOTED
IN, IT TAKES TWO YEARS BEFORE WE RECEIVE ANY FUNDS. 
          SO WHETHER WE END IN OCTOBER OR WE END IN NOVEMBER,
WE WON'T RECEIVE FUNDS FOR TWO YEARS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT 'S STILL SUSTAINABLE. IT DOESN'T FIX THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE AT. 
          SO WAITING ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO, IT STILL DOESN'T FIX THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE. 
          THAT KIND OF GOES TO THE POINT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE MONEY ANYWAY,
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE SITUATION, THEN WHY WOULD WE STOP SO SOON? AND IF IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. 
          WELL, THE GAP THAT'S KIND OF THE COUNTY'S GAP,
IT'S NOT PRINCETON GAP. 
          WE'LL BRING THOSE RESOURCES INSIDE OF TOWN, AND INSTEAD OF FIGURING OUT WHICH ARE WE GOING
TO HIRE POLICE OR HIRE FIRE, WE'RE GOING TO BRING FIRE IN THAT SOLVES THAT,
THAT ISSUE, AND THEN WE'LL HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, THE GAP IS A COLLIN COUNTY'S GAP. 
          IT'S NOT A PRINCETON GAP, AND THAT SOLVES TWO ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE,
BUT WE STILL HAVE MORE MORE ISSUES TO SOLVE. 
          AGAIN, WHY IS IT THAT IT IS NOW THAT 'S BEING TALKED ABOUT,
WHY IT WAS MY IMPRESSION THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION, THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY
AND HELPING EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION BEFORE MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT, BECAUSE IT HAS CREATED A PANIC AND A FEAR AMONGST THEM,
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE NOW WORRIED THAT THEIR LOVED ONES WHO ARE SICK MIGHT NOT GET HELP IN A TIMELY
MANNER, AND THEY'RE FREAKED OUT AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE,
AND THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED. 
          AND WE'RE AFTER WE'VE MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT NOW,
IS WHEN WE'RE SAYING, OH, BUT DON'T WORRY, THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR YOU. IT'S SO BACKWARDS. 
          WE REALLY I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING NOW,
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THERE ARE OPTIONS. 
          WE ARE HERE TO HELP WITH THE TRANSITION, BUT FOR CREATING THAT PANIC WITH THEM AND MAKING
THAT KIND OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          CAN I, CAN I CAN I SPEAK ON THAT REAL QUICK? SO THE THING IS THIS WE HAVE A DEADLINE OF
OCTOBER 1ST, AND IF WE WAIT AND TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OURSELVES,
THIS CAN BE A MONTH, TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, AND THEN NOW WE'RE TELLING THEM IN 60 DAYS YOU'RE OUT LOSING SERVICES. I THINK THAT THE
ANNOUNCEMENT CAME OUT WHEN WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THIS, AND WE PUT THE ANNOUNCEMENT OUT AT THAT TIME,
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS IT, THIS IS SOMETHING SERIOUS, AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS,
AND THE LONGER THAT WE WAIT OR WE TRY TO SOFTEN UP WHAT THIS SOUNDS LIKE, IT MAKES PEOPLE NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF WHAT THIS SITUATION IS. 
          I MEAN, I DO APOLOGIZE THE WAY THAT IT CAME OUT,
IT COULD HAVE SOUNDED INSENSITIVE TO SOME, TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS A COUNTY ISSUE AT THE END OF THE DAY,
AND IT'S AFFECTING PRINCETON, AND IT'S KIND OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS WHETHER DO WE RAISE TAXES FOR
THE CITIZENS TO COVER COUNTY OR DO WE, WE PUT THE PRESSURE ON COLLIN COUNTY. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WAS TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE
CITIZENS. 
          THIS IS TO PUT PRESSURE ON COLLIN COUNTY, LIKE WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING,
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS? WE'RE EDUCATING, AND MAYBE THE MESSAGE DIDN'T COME OUT EFFECTIVELY,
BUT EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE NEEDS TO BE AT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, 
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TOO, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS WHO WILL COLLECT YOUR MONEY. 
          THAT'S WHO CAN RECEIVE THESE FUNDS FROM FROM YOU GUYS. 
          WE CAN'T RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THAT, AND I'M NOT SURE IF GRANT CAN CAN GIVE GIVE CLARITY. 
          IF WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TAKE MONEY FROM COUNTY. 
          WE CAN'T ASSESS A FEE ON COUNTY, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN COUNTY WANTS PRINCETON TO BE
TAXING COUNTY IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY OTHER SERVICES FROM, FROM FROM PRINCETON. SO I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT WOULD THE BEST WAY TO PUT THIS MESSAGE OUT
THERE BESIDES THE WAY THAT IT CAME OUT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS THE GRAVITY OF IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          AND TRYING TO SUGARCOAT IT MAKES PEOPLE HAVE HOPE. 
          THEY THIS IS SERIOUS. WE NEED TO GO OUT AND SPEAK TO COUNTY OR THE STATE,
BECAUSE THE STATE DOESN'T MANDATE COUNTY TO PROVIDE SERVICES. 
          IF YOU LIVE IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA, THERE IS NO MANDATE FOR ANYBODY TO PROVIDE FIRE
SERVICES, AND WE HAVE STEPPED UP TO THAT PLATE, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S GOING TO SINK US IF WE STAY HERE. 
          SO THE THING IS, I MEAN, I GET THAT IT'S A THE MESSAGE DIDN'T COME OUT THE WAY PEOPLE
PROBABLY WANTED IT TO COME OUT, BUT IT'S OUT, AND WE HAVE WE HAVE MONTHS WAIT. 
          WE HAVE WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO,
BUT THIS IS A TIME WHERE PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS, EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY NEEDS TO GET TOGETHER AND DETERMINE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT,
AND WE'RE WILLING TO HELP AS WELL AS A CITY, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING,
BUT ME AS MAYOR, I'M MEETING WITH SOME PEOPLE IN COUNTY. 
          THIS WEEK I MET WITH A CHURCH AND COUNTY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          I DO WANT TO HELP, BUT I CAN'T USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO HELP. 
          WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY AND GO FROM FROM THERE. 
          I ACTUALLY PREPARED A STATEMENT TONIGHT THAT I WAS GOING TO READ OFF TO MAKE SURE I HIT
EVERY POINT THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WITH THIS, AND WHEN I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THE MAYOR IN TERMS OF THE SPEECH AND HOW IT IT TOOK
PLACE AS FAR AS THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE, I DON'T KNOW WHO. WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LOGISTICS OF HOW THAT IS DONE AND HOW IT'S
PLAYED OUT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT, A LITTLE EDUCATION WOULD HAVE WENT A LONG WAY. 
          YOU KNOW, THE SAYING GOES IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET WHAT YOU SAID. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL FORGET WHAT YOU DID, BUT THEY'LL NEVER FORGET HOW YOU MADE THEM FEEL, AND I JUST REMEMBERED WHEN SEEING THAT MESSAGE ON THERE,
IT LOOKED LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT. 
          IT CAME FROM THE FIRE POST AND THEN OUR CITY OFFICIAL CITY PAGE JUST SHARED IT AS AN FYI,
AND I RECALL THE THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOME PUBLIC EDUCATION SURROUNDING THIS BEFORE THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE IN
TERMS OF WHAT THOSE OPTIONS WERE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, AND , YOU KNOW,
YES, THEY ARE IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA, BUT THEY ARE PRINCETONIANS JUST AS MUCH AS WE ARE FOR THOSE WHO ARE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES, THEY PARTICIPATE IN OUR EVENTS. 
          THEY ARE JUST A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AS AS THE REST OF US,
AND I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS HANDLED WITH THAT LEVEL OF CARE. 
          I PERSONALLY FELT LIKE IT WAS INSENSITIVE AND COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED,
HANDLED A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT. 
          WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF PEOPLE. THIS IS A PEOPLE'S BUSINESS AND WHAT WE SAY SOMETIMES
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAY, IT'S HOW YOU SAY IT, AND THAT MATTERS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. 
          SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILWOMAN TODD. I JUST THINK THAT,
YOU KNOW, THAT EDUCATION OF THOSE OPTIONS WOULD HAVE NEGATED FROM THAT KIND OF PANIC THAT TOOK PLACE. THIS THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT WILL HAVE MORE OF AN OPINION OF YOURS AS AN ANSWER, OR MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE IN THE STAFF CAN ANSWER IT,
BUT THIS HAD TO HAVE BEEN SEEN COMING LIKE IT JUST DIDN'T POP UP OVERNIGHT, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ULTIMATELY THIS IS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ISSUE. 
          TO ME, IT REALLY SOUNDS LIKE THEY FAILED AT PROVIDING INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC THAT THIS
WAS COMING. 
          HOW LONG DO YOU THINK, OR DO YOU KNOW THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS KNEW THIS PROBLEM WAS
IMPENDING AND BASICALLY LEFT IT UP TO THE CITIES TO DO ALL THE DIRTY WORK? I WOULD SAY THE FIRST DOMINO FALL WAS THE NOTIFICATION BY
THE CITY OF MELISSA. 
          SO THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE BEST INDICATION IN TERMS OF SOMEONE ACTUALLY MAKING A
CALL TO ACTION, THAT THIS AGREEMENT IS UNSUSTAINABLE, THAT THE OFFSET OF THIS IS NO LONGER WORTH PROVIDING
THESE SERVICES BECAUSE WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THESE SERVICES. 
          EVERY CITY IS SUBSIDIZING SERVICES OUTSIDE THEIR CITY LIMITS TO MAINTAIN THESE AGREEMENTS. 
          SO IT COMES AS NO SHOCK TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT WHEN THEY DON'T ADJUST A BUDGET
FROM AN AGREEMENT SINCE 2013, THAT AT SOME POINT THE DELTA KEEPS WIDENING IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE
A SUSTAINABLE AGREEMENT WITH A FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
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AS FAR AS ANY OTHER CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF ARE WE GOING TO BE THE LAST ONE? I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE. I THINK OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO
FOLLOW SUIT. JUST FROM THE ASPECT THAT THEY ARE REALIZING THAT THERE IS MORE SUPPORT IN THIS REGARDLESS OF THE COMMUNITY MISUNDERSTANDINGS,
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, THEY HAVE A PRINCETON ADDRESS, THEIR KIDS GO TO PRINCETON SCHOOLS. 
          THEIR REPRESENTATION IS TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. 
          IF THEY WANT A CALL TO ACTION, IF THEY WANT TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE,
THEY EXERCISE THEIR GOVERNMENT ON THAT END. 
          IT'S NOT THE CITY OF PRINCETON. THE CITY OF PRINCETON TAKES CARE OF THE RESIDENTS WITHIN
OUR CITY. 
          [INAUDIBLE] OH, SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I HEAR YOU,
AND I KNOW THAT THE MESSAGE DID NOT LAND WELL, IT DID CAUSE SOME PANIC. I DO AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANYTHING MALICIOUS, YOU KNOW,
BEHIND ANY OF THE MESSAGES. 
          IT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT, BUT I THINK THAT EVERYONE HERE ON THIS COUNCIL YOU KNOW,
I THINK THAT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYBODY WITHOUT SERVICE, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE IN A TOUGH SITUATION. 
          AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON A LOT OF THINGS,
BUT I THINK THAT WE'LL ALL BE COMMITTED TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE NEXT STEP IN THE SOLUTION, YOU KNOW,
AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO TO, YOU KNOW, TO HELP WITH THE TRANSITIONAL PERIOD OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE COMMITTED TO THAT. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY, AND I DO AGREE,
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT COMES DOWN TO IF YOU ARE GETTING GOOD, IF YOU'RE GETTING NEWS, WHICH DO YOU WANT FIRST,
THE BAD NEWS OR THE GOOD NEWS? OR IF, IF YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SURGERY, IF YOU'RE DYING,
YOU HAVE A TERMINAL ILLNESS. 
          DO YOU WANT THE DOCTOR TO COME AND SAY, OH, YOU'RE DOING WELL? AND OH, HE JUST SAID HE OR SHE TELLS YOU THAT YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO LIVE. 
          SO SOMETIMES WE NEED TO TAKE EMOTIONS OUT. I AM I HOPE I'M NOT COMING ACROSS AS BEING
INSENSITIVE BECAUSE I'M NOT. 
          I DO CARE, AND I DO HAVE FRIENDS IN THE ETJ AND I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THEM WITHOUT SERVICE, BUT TRULY, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT PRINCETON THAT WE TOOK LIGHTLY. 
          WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, WE SAID WE CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE THEM WITHOUT SERVICES,
BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE. 
          THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE. THEY NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE,
AND THIS MAY JUST BE A WAKE UP CALL TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE ETJ TO APPROACH THE COUNTY, TO DO SOMETHING,
TO BE PROACTIVE, AND I'M SURE THAT WE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST IF THEY NEED GUIDANCE OR JUST IN WHATEVER WAY WE'RE HERE. WE ARE NOT WANTING TO MAKE YOUR LIVES DIFFICULT. 
          IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS AND WE CANNOT CHANGE THAT,
BUT WE DO NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON. 
          THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT TO YOU,
YOU SAID IT IN A MUCH MORE GRACEFUL WAY OUTSIDE OF MY CAPACITY ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS. 
          SO I THINK THAT IS EXACTLY THE BEST MESSAGE,
AND IN REFERENCE TO COUNCILMEM BER TODD AND JOHNSON, THIS THIS IS SOMETHING IN TERMS OF IT'S HARD TO PREDICT EMOTION AND WHAT WE CAN DEAL WITH
EXCLUSIVELY IS FACTS, AND THAT'S ALL WE KNOW WE CAN RELIABLY AND RESPONSIBLY DEAL WITH ARE THE FACTS. 
          SO OUR COMMS PLAN WAS TO COMMUNICATE THE FACTS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE GOING
TO BE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EMOTIONAL RESPONSES, AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND COMPREHEND THAT, AND MYSELF AND AARON HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT
AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS AS THEY COME IN. 
          SO TO BE CLEAR, FROM ALL THE RESPONSES I GOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA,
ALL THEY WANTED WERE THE FACTS. 
          FACTS THAT WEREN'T PROVIDED. HOW ARE THEIR HOMES GOING TO BE IMPACTED WITH HOMEOWNERS
INSURANCE? WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL GAP THAT WAS MISSING? I DON'T REALLY THINK I SAW ONE EMOTIONAL
RESPONSE THERE THAT WAS UNREASONABLE. THEY WERE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS THAT WERE NOT PROVIDED UP
FRONT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT WITHIN CITY LIMITS,
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT CITY TAXES SHOULD BE COVERING FOR EVERYTHING. I'M SAYING THAT THEY ARE HUMAN, THEY'RE PEOPLE,
AND THE DECENT THING TO DO WOULD HAVE GIVEN 
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THEM, WOULD BE TO HAVE GIVEN THEM A CHANCE TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION,
BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO COME TALK HERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET THREE MINUTES, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO THEM. 
          WE JUST HAVE TO LISTEN, AND THAT'S NOT GIVING THEM ANY DIGNITY OR RESPECT TO THE
SITUATION. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A TOWN HALL OR AN OPEN FORUM OR AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY COULD ASK
THINGS AND GET RESPONSES TO BE TREATED WITH HUMAN DECENCY AS PEOPLE. THAT IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IN THIS,
IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE GREAT NEIGHBORS OR GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE WEREN'T, AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THE CITY HAS DONE SOMETHING TO THEM WHERE IT HAS
IMPACTED THEM. 
          WE JUST TOOK HOMES LIKE HOMES, JUST HAD TO GET TAKEN NOW FOR THE THOROUGHFARE AND STUFF
BECAUSE OF DECISIONS THE COUNCIL HAD MADE IN THE PAST THAT CREATED THE THOROUGHFARE TO GO WHERE IT'S GOING. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS BODY HAS MADE DECISIONS THAT HAS
IMPACTED THEM, AND THEY DON'T GET A REPRESENTATIVE UP HERE. THE LEAST WE COULD HAVE DONE WAS GIVE THEM A
CHANCE TO JUST ACTUALLY TALK TO US AND TO HEAR THESE THINGS, AND TO GET THESE ANSWERS IN A WAY THAT TREATED THEM WITH THAT KIND OF RESPECT. 
          THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING TO ME ON THIS, IS JUST WE SHOULD HAVE TREATED THEM WITH RESPECT. 
          [APPLAUSE] SO AND I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE HISTORY OF IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO JOIN CITY LIMITS,
BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE A CONVERSATION. 
          WHAT IS IT THAT STOPS THEM FROM WANTING TO JOIN THE CITY LIMITS? I MEAN, CLEARLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF IN JERKS TO THEM,
SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF US, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THAT CONVERSATION AND SEE WHAT THOSE OPTIONS
ARE, WHAT CAN BE DONE. I MEAN, WE'RE MAKING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
ZONE THAT CREATES STUFF THAT BREAKS SO MANY OF OUR ORDINANCES BECAUSE IT'S IN A SPECIAL ZONING, AND WE CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS FOR DEVELOPERS. 
          WHY CAN'T WE LOOK AT A WAY TO BRING THEM INTO THE CITY THAT HONORS THE STUFF THAT THEY
ENJOY OUT IN THE COUNTRY, AND THEN THEY'D BE PAYING OUR TAXES, THEN THEY COULD GET OUR SERVICES,
AND IT WOULD ANSWER A LOT OF PROBLEMS. WE JUST NEED TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS. 
          THAT IS THE PROBLEM OF THEM NOT WANTING TO JOIN US. 
          SO, I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND THE MASHBURN THING. 
          I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM,
TO SEE WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES THEM HOLD BACK FROM JOINING US, AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO WANT TO JOIN OUR CITY LIMITS,
AND I THINK THAT'S AN OPTION, AND I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN OPTION. I THINK AT LEAST,
YOU KNOW, THE FEW OF US, WE ARE ONLINE. 
          WE ARE TALKING I SPENT MAYBE 30 HOURS THIS PAST WEEK JUST SPEAKING TO PEOPLE ONLINE,
RESPONDING SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          A LOT OF THINGS THAT I SEE COME UP IS FROM THE PAST. I MEAN,
SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'M HAVING IS STUFF THAT HAPPENED 20 YEARS AGO. I WE CAN'T STOP WHAT HAPPENED 20 YEARS AGO. ALL I KNOW IS THAT RIGHT NOW,
WE'RE NOT THE SAME COUNCIL THAT IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE IF PEOPLE WAS TRYING TO GRAB LAND BACK THEN OR TAKE LAND. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE I'M DOING RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO STAY AFLOAT RIGHT
NOW. 
          SO I JUST THINK THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE OPEN. 
          WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH COUNTY JUDGE. 
          I'VE MET WITH CHRIS HILL MYSELF. THIS IS BACK WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED IN JANUARY. 
          THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME. BACK TO YOUR QUESTION. WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD THESE
TALKS, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT THE ETJ ARE NOT WANTING TO TALK. 
          THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO DO MORE. I'M NOT SURE. 
          WE CAN'T SPEAK TO EACH INDIVIDUAL IN THE ETJ OR IN COUNTY ON HOW TO FIX THIS ISSUE,
YOUR REPRESENTATIVES DON'T WANT TO TALK. 
          SO HOW CAN WE FIX THE ISSUE WHEN THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT YOU GUYS ELECT TO REPRESENT YOU AND
THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT DOING NOTHING ELSE? WHAT ELSE DO THE CITY DO WHEN WE SAY WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH ONE OF YOU? I MEAN EACH ONE OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY. I WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU IF I CAN,
AND WE PROBABLY CAN HELP EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE ISSUE FOR THE 11,000 PEOPLE ELSE THAT WE THAT WE CAN'T SPEAK TO BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS
SOMETHING TO. 
          I MEAN, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THEY WANT SOMETHING TO COME INTO,
INTO CITY LIMITS. 
          I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 11,000 DIFFERENT ANSWERS. 
          W E NEED SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU GUYS ELECT ARE THE ONES WHO
ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING THESE DEALS FOR, FOR YOU, AND WHEN THEY'RE NOT COMING UP TO SPEAK FOR YOU GUYS,
WHAT DO WE DO? I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK THE ETJ. I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE COMMISSIONER,
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE OUR ETJ ACTUALLY HAS AN ELECTED BODY. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT I. IT'S SOMETHING I HAVE BROUGHT UP THAT THEY SHOULD BE GETTING. IT'S
SOMETHING THAT IN OTHER AREAS THEY DO HAVE WHERE THEY HAVE, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO DO SOME REALLY GREAT COMMUNITY,
LIKE COLLABORATIVE CONTRACTS AND STUFF, 
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BUT I DON'T THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE PERIOD. 
          THEY DO. THEY HAVE THEY HAVE HELL, I BELIEVE,
AND THEY HAVE WILLIAMS AND THEY VOTE FOR BOTH OF THEM, THE ETJ. THE ONLY THING THE ETJ IS, IS JUST THE AREA AROUND PRINCETON THAT WE'RE,
WE'RE EXPECTED TO GROW INTO. 
          SO WE JUST THE ONLY THING THAT THE CITY REGULATES IN THE ETJ IS THE BUILDING STANDARDS AND
THAT'S IT. 
          WE DON'T WE DON'T WE DON'T SERVICE IT. WE DON'T PROVIDE IT. WE DON'T TAKE IT FROM YOU
GUYS. 
          THE ETJ IS STILL COUNTY LAND. IT'S JUST THE ETJ JUST DEFINES AN AREA IN COUNTY LAND THAT
WE'RE EXPECTED TO GROW INTO. 
          SO THEY'RE REPRESENTING THEIR REPRESENTATIVES IS THE PEOPLE THAT THEY VOTE FOR WHEN THEY
GO INTO BALLOT AND EVERYBODY ON THAT BALLOT SHEET IS WHO THEY WHO REPRESENTS THEM, AND WE NEED TO RESPECT INDIVIDUALS WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE AND NOT TWIST THEIR
ARM WITH THINGS, WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS, TO FORCE THEM TO ANNEX TO THE CITY. 
          WE NEED TO ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY DETERMINE THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT MEETING
THEIR NEEDS, AND THEY WOULD BE BEST SERVED BY ANNEXING, WE WOULD WELCOME OUR ETJ NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS
WITH OPEN ARMS, BUT THEY HAVE MADE THE CHOICE TO LIVE IN THOSE AREAS SERVICED BY THE COUNTY,
WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THEM. 
          THE COUNTY HAS BEEN DOING THAT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES AT MOSTLY THE
MUNICIPALITY'S EXPENSE. 
          TIMES ARE CHANGING, PLACES ARE CHANGING, POPULATIONS ARE EXPLODING,
AND SO MUNICIPALITIES ARE NOT ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEIR INDIVIDUAL UNITS AS AS OPPOSED TO EXTENDING TO CARING FOR THE ETJ,
WHICH IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY. IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE. 
          IT IS A VERY SENSITIVE ISSUE. IT IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          PRINCETON IS NO LONGER A LITTLE FARM IN A LITTLE ONION CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. 
          IT'S NOW NO LONGER A LITTLE CITY. WE NOW HAVE TO START THINKING IN DIFFERENT WAYS,
AND MAYBE IT'S A CONVERSATION WHOSE TIME HAS COME, BUT WE DO NEED TO RESPECT THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THE ETJ
MADE THE CHOICE TO LIVE WHERE THEY LIVE BECAUSE THEY EXPECTED THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THEM,
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING, AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT MAP AGAIN, CAN YOU CAN YOU BRING UP THAT MAP? THE FIRE DISTRICT THAT WE SERVE IS NOT JUST OUR ETJ. 
          IT GOES BEYOND THE ETJ. SO WHEN WE'RE PULLING THE CONTRACT,
IT'S NOT PULLING IT FROM ONLY OUR ETJ. 
          IT'S PULLING IT FROM AREAS BEYOND THAT WE THAT WILL PROBABLY NEVER BE A PART OF,
OF OF PRINCETON THAT WE'RE STILL THAT WE'RE STILL SERVING. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST AN ETJ. THIS IS THIS IS A COUNTY ISSUE. 
          MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE AMBER TO PULL UP THE FAQ PAGE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION
THAT WAS JUST TALKED ABOUT? YEAH, AND WE DID CREATE AN FAQ PAGE BEFORE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT CAME OUT,
AND WE ALSO AND COUNTY HAS A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION OUT ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL. 
          SO I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THIS ISSUE IS NOT NEW. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S NEW TO PEOPLE IN THIS AREA,
BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 23 AND SINCE CITIES HAVE BEEN PULLING OUT SINCE SINCE 2023, AND THE FACT THAT COUNTY HASN'T HAS JUST PUSHED FOR AN ESD TO BE PUSHED,
THEY SHOULD HAVE PUSHED IT BACK IN 23 WHEN THEY KNEW THAT THIS WAS COMING. 
          BECAUSE IF THIS WAS BACK IN 23, THIS PROBABLY WOULD BE A LOT MORE MANAGEABLE,
AND BY NOW WE'LL BE TURNING IT OVER TO THE ESD. 
          SO IF WE LOOK AT THIS CITY OF PRINCETON'S PAGE WHERE THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE,
WAS THE FAQ POSTED WITH THAT ANNOUNCEMENT? YES. YES. OKAY. 
          CHIEF, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS PRESENTING VERY WELL,
GIVING US THE FACTS VERY PROFESSIONALLY. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR LEVEL OF THOUGHT THAT GOES INTO THESE THIS PROCESS. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU BEING AVAILABLE AS A RESOURCE TO ANYBODY THAT'S WILLING TO REACH OUT. 
          SO AS A PROPERTY OWNER MYSELF, IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ENTITIES THAT
TAX MY PROPERTY DO WITH MY MONEY. I CAN'T I CAN'T RELY ON ANYBODY ELSE TO TAKE THAT
RESPONSIBILITY FOR ME. 
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SO, QUITE FRANKLY, MY AMERICAN CIVIC DUTY TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND ME
AND WITH MY TAX MONEY. 
          SO ALL THE INFORMATION YOU'VE PROVIDED HAS BEEN GREAT. 
          IS THERE MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO BE AVAILABLE TO HELP AND TO GUIDE PEOPLE WITH
YOUR EXPERTISE, AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO I JUST URGE RESIDENTS TO SEEK OPTIONS TO REACH OUT TO THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE
IN CHARGE OF THIS AGREEMENT, AND CONSIDER THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES AFFECTED. 
          I THINK COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY UNDERSTANDS THIS HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PEOPLE. 
          IT'S GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON A LOT OF PEOPLE,
BUT IT COULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON EVEN MORE PEOPLE IF WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD ON THIS AGREEMENT. SO THIS ISN'T AN EASY DECISION. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TAKEN LIGHTLY. WE DON'T LIKE BEING IN THIS POSITION,
AND , YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THIS CHAIR FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF, AND THIS IS BY FAR THE,
THE, THE BIGGEST ITEM THAT'S HIT THIS, HIT THE AGENDAS I'VE BEEN A PART OF. SO AGAIN,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING A RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO NON-CITY RESIDENTS. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR BUILDING AN EXCEPTIONAL FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          THANK YOU. I ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS. MY QUESTIONS OR OBSERVATION ISN'T AN INDICTMENT ON YOU
AS A AS A PERSON AND AS A PROFESSIONAL? WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CORDIAL. 
          I ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR PRESENTATIONS AND YOUR FACT LEAD PRESENTATIONS. 
          SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR STANDING IN THE HOT SEAT TONIGHT,
TAKING THESE QUESTIONS FROM US TO KIND OF GET SOME CLARITY ON THE SITUATION. 
          ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT THEN. I THINK THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND I DO WANT TO SAY ONE THING IS THAT ME AND CHIEF HAVE HAD
PLENTY OF, OF TALKS ABOUT THIS, AND WE ARE WILLING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP. 
          WHETHER THAT'S HELPING BRANCH GET THEIR VOLUNTEER SERVICES GOING OR GETTING GETTING
WHOEVER IN CONTACT WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THIRD PARTY SERVICES THAT CAN MAYBE TAKE OVER THAT STATION AND PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. THOSE SERVICES ARE EXPENSIVE. 
          TO PROPERLY TAKE OVER THAT STATION, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT. 
          THE REASON WHY BRANCH, FROM MY OPINION, THE REASON WHY BRANCH WAS CLOSED DOWN IS BECAUSE
OF THE GROWTH IN COUNTY. 
          I THINK COUNTY WAS EVER MEANT TO HOUSE CITY LIKE IN INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          IT'S NOT BUILT FOR IT, AND THE WAY THAT AND I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING PERSONALLY,
I FEEL LIKE MUDS ARE GOING AROUND CITY REGULATIONS AND BUILDING IN COUNTY TO GET AROUND SO THEY CAN BUILD CHEAP. SO AND THEN NOW THAT'S AFFECTING COUNTY LAND THEN NOW
WE'RE BEING ATTACKED FOR IT, BUT IT IS A STATE THAT IS ALLOWING THESE MUDS TO BUILD IN THE COUNTY AND BUILD CHEAP WITH
NO OVERSIGHT AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, AND THEN NOW IT'S AFFECTING YOU GUYS AND IT'S AFFECTING US. 
          IT'S AFFECTING EVERYBODY. WE'RE IN WERE IN THE SAME BOAT THAT WE'RE IN. THE PROBLEM IS
COUNTY WAS NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF GROWTH, AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. I JUST REMEMBERED I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR
CHIEF. 
          WHEN WE WHEN THIS HAPPENS, WILL WE BE RETURNING THE EQUIPMENT,
THE FACILITY, THE TRUCK, THE BOAT, THE WHOLE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ACQUIRED WHEN WE GOT STATION FOUR BACK OVER TO THAT,
TO BRANCH WHEN THAT TIME COMES. SO THAT'S A PLAN THAT WE'LL WORK AND DEVELOP WITH CITY LEADERSHIP
AND CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          YES, SIR. I'M GOING TO SAY WE'RE I'M PUSHING IF THERE'S A TEAM THAT WANTS TO TAKE OVER
THAT AND WHATEVER WE CAN GIVE BACK, I'M ALL FOR GIVING IT BACK. I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU STRANDED. WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST TAKE ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND
SAY, YOU GUYS ARE ON YOUR OWN. WHATEVER WE CAN GIVE WHATEVER WAS WIT BRANCH, WE ARE. I'M AT LEAST ME. I'M PUSHING TO GIVE BACK. 
          I CAN'T VOTE, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON COUNCIL IS GOING TO SAY NO,
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ANY OF THIS EQUIPMENT BACK. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          [F. PUBLIC APPEARANCE]
MISS COOK, IF YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE. PUBLIC APPEARANCE. 
          THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS SET ASIDE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE CITY
COUNCIL ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT IS NOT FORMALLY SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA AS A PUBLIC 
          [00:55:03]
HEARING ITEM. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC MEETING APPEARANCE CARD PRIOR
TO THE MEETING AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY. 
          SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL IS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO OR DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING
THIS PORTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY,
OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY. 
          ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTLY,
NOT CITY STAFF OR OTHERWISE. 
          BE COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL AND CORDIAL AND REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL,
DEMEANING, INSULTING, THREATENING AND OR DISPARAGING REMARKS AS TO MAINTAIN DECORUM AND SUPPORT THE EFFICIENT
AND ORDERLY FLOW OF THE MEETING. 
          THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR FIRST CLINT LAWRENCE. 
          PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. CLINT LAWRENCE 1304 EAST COLLEGE. 
          THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION STATED THERE'S A BELIEF AMONG THE PUBLIC THAT PRINCETON FORCIBLY
TOOK OVER THE BRANCH FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          I WENT BACK TO READ THE COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA,
AND I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY SUGGESTED PRINCETON FORCIBLY TOOK OVER THE FIRE DISTRICT. THIS STATEMENT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LOGICALLY SAFE TO SAY AT
THE TIME THAT PRINCETON WOULD BE PROVIDING LONG TERM FIRE SERVICE FOR THE ENTIRE PENINSULA. OTHERWISE,
WHY WOULD BRANCH DONATE THEIR ASSETS TO PRINCETON AND THEN PRINCETON TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT? AND WHY WOULD THE CITY SPEND TAX DOLLARS
REMODELING STATION NUMBER FOUR WELL BEFORE AN ESD WAS EVEN ON THE RADAR? THE SOLUTION IS A VOTER APPROVED EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT. 
          HOWEVER, UNTIL THIS CAN BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND FUNDED BY THOSE TAXPAYERS,
BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY NEEDS TO SWALLOW SOME PRIDE AND FIND A REASONABLE SOLUTION TO FILL IN THE GAP UNTIL THE ESD CAN BE APPROVED AND FUNDED. 
          THE FACTS ARE BRANCH HAD A FIRE DEPARTMENT THEN PRINCETON GETS MORE INVOLVED IN THE AREA
AND NOW THE RESIDENTS COULD BE IN A WORSE SITUATION. 
          THIS IS VERY TYPICAL PRINCETON THEATER. LET ME ASK Y'ALL THIS. 
          DO Y'ALL REALLY THINK BRANCH FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE DONATED THEIR ASSETS IF THEY KNEW
THEIR COMMUNITY SAFETY WAS GOING TO BE PUT UNNECESSARILY IN RISK? I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING SO. Y'ALL ARE USING US FOR POLITICAL LEVERAGE WITH THE COUNTY
AND IT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]. CINDY D ARLING. 
          PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SORRY. THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I DO APPRECIATE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND IDEAS THAT
THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE COME UP WITH, SO THANK YOU FOR CARING. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THAT YOU CARE. 
          LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY ABOUT THE BRANCH FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY WERE THE LITTLE
DEPARTMENT THAT COULD UNTIL THEY COULDN'T GET ENOUGH GET ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS. 
          SO THEY GAVE ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT, TRUCKS, LAND BUILDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF
THINGS TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON. 
          SO THEY NOT ONLY INHERITED THE PROBLEM, BUT THEY INHERITED SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH
OF GOODS. 
          WE ELECTED YOU AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND OTHERS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS,
NOT TO GIVE UP ON THEM. 
          I HAVE SPOKEN TO DARYL HALE AND CHERYL WILLIAMS,
AND THEY'RE NOT HERE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES BUT GUYS, THEY LOOK ME IN THE EYES, BOTH OF THEM, AND TOLD ME THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE YOU MORE
MONEY. 
          THEY HAD THE MONEY TO GIVE YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO DROPPED THE BALL? SERIOUSLY. 
          SOMEBODY DID. SO THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA,
BUT I TALKED TO STEVE DEFFIBAUGH TODAY AND HE'S REALLY AN EXPERT AT THIS. HE SAID IT WOULD TAKE TWO YEARS TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING AND
TO SAVE ANYBODY'S LIFE WITH A FIRE TRUCK. 
          TWO YEARS PLUS ONE MONTH THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT TO VOTE. 
          I'M I'M SOME OF YOUR FRIENDS, RIGHT? ARE YOU WILLING TO WATCH ME BURN AND THEN COME TO MY
FUNERAL AND CRY? I DON'T THINK SO. WE HAVE TO BE HUMAN HERE, GUYS. 
          I KNOW IT'S MONEY, BUT THEY HAVE SAID THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE YOU MORE MONEY. 
          SO WHERE'S THE BREAKDOWN? I WANT TO KNOW, AND THESE PEOPLE BEHIND ME WANT TO KNOW. 
          WE DESERVE AN ANSWER. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] LES 
          [01:00:04]
HAZEL. 
          THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO I LIVE SOUTH OF CULLEOKA,
ABOUT 200 YARDS FROM THE ENTRANCE TO TURKEY CREEK PARK. 
          SO I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW,
AND WHAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO FEEL IS, IS ABANDONED DOWN THERE. 
          CORPS OF ENGINEERS OPERATING $35 MILLION DEFICIT. 
          NOW THEY'RE TALKING TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON,
POSSIBLY TAKING OVER THAT PARK, AND YET PRINCETON IS TALKING ABOUT OR ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF SUSPENDING FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICES DOWN THERE. 
          SO IF YOU TAKE OVER THE PARK AND YOU CLOSE STATION FOUR,
HAND IT BACK OFF TO VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT IT JUST DOESN'T COMPUTE. 
          YOU'RE BECOMING LITERALLY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE,
DRIVING RIGHT PAST THE LAKE, LOOKING AT THE NICE SUNRISE IN THE MORNING, BUT NOT PROVIDING FIRE SERVICES FOR MY FOR MY HOME OR MY NEIGHBORS SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN
THERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND HAVE WATCHED THE LAKE BEING REVISED AND CHANGED WHERE THE LEVEL WAS,
WAS RAISED, AND IT'S JUST IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE WE'RE FEELING ABANDONED OUT THERE,
YOU KNOW, COLLIN COUNTY WON'T COME DOWN AND ENFORCE THE TRAFFIC LAWS ASSOCIATED WITH TIKI CREEK NOW BEING CLOSED. AND SO THEY'RE PULLING OFF ON THE BANK IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES. 
          YOU DON'T COME DOWN THERE WITH YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE CAN'T GET THE CORPS TO COME OUT AND ENFORCE,
BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT TAKING OVER TIKI CREEK BUT NOT PROVIDING FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICES TO OUR HOMES. PLUS, THERE'S 1100 HOMES BEING ANNOUNCED EAST OF WHAT WE CALL
GILBERTS, YOU KNOW, 984, AND WE'RE JUST WE'RE REALLY PERPLEXED AND AMAZED AT THAT THE WAY THIS WHOLE
PROCESS HAS GONE DOWN, ESPECIALLY THAT WE JUST GOT NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS HEARING 24 OR 48 HOURS AGO. 
          SOMEBODY JUST HAPPENED TO FIND IT ON FACEBOOK. 
          SO THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER PROCESS TO THIS. 
          I WORK IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          I WORKED WITH EVERY SINGLE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT,
FIRE MARSHAL, IN EVERY SINGLE MUNICIPALITY IN HERE EXCEPT FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON, AND I WOULD NEVER ANTICIPATE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 2022,
KNOWING THAT THE BRANCH DEPARTMENT IS COSTING US TOO MUCH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND COVERAGE,
AND YOU'RE EXTENDING COVERAGE TO A MUD DISTRICT THAT IS WELL OUTSIDE OF YOUR CITY LIMITS. 
          HOW DOES THAT NOT APPLY TO US WHEN YOU'RE LITERALLY COMING BY OUR HOUSES? SO WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE WE'LL HAVE TO LIVE WITH,
I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PAY WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNT THERE IS. 
          IF IT'S BY HOUSE, BY HOUSE OR NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD,
WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PAY FOR IT TO GET THE COVERAGE. 
          THANK YOU. STEPHANIE. SORRY, I CAN'T PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME. 
          EZEKIEL. STEPHANIE EZEKIEL. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          THANK YOU. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE EZEUGO. I SPELLED IT OUT IN THE PAPER EZEUGO. 
          THAT'S HOW I PRONOUNCE IT, ANYWAY, BUT ACTUALLY SO I DO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF
PRINCETON HOWEVER, MY CONCERN SHOULD ACTUALLY BE EVERYONE'S CONCERN IS IF THERE IS ANY ROAD ACCIDENTS IN
THOSE THOSE COUNTY ROADS WHERE BRANCH IS, MY CONCERN IS WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT. 
          NOW, I THINK MY QUESTION WAS KIND OF ALREADY ANSWERED BY THE CHIEF SO THANK YOU FOR THAT,
BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, IS NOW THAT PRINCETON IS NOT PRINCETON FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO
THE THAT AREA OUTSIDE OF THE I GUESS THE MUD NUMBER TWO, WHICH TO BE FAIRLY HONEST, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE HOW THAT WORKS. SO I DO APOLOGIZE IF MY
QUESTION OR CONCERN COMES OFF AS A BIT IGNORANT, BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN IS WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO POSSIBLE ROAD ACCIDENTS OUT
THERE, AND MORE SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE OTHER CITIES OUTSIDE OF PRINCETON,
LIKE MAYBE WYLIE OR I GUESS WHOEVER IS STILL GOING TO BE, I GUESS, RESPONDING. HOW LONG IS THE RESPONSE TIME GOING TO BE? WHICH I KNOW THAT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT YOU ALL CAN ANSWER NOW,
BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE IN CASE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DISCUSS OR TALK WITH THE COUNTY ON OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          SO THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          TOM SIMERLEY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          [01:05:10]
I'M TOM SIMERLEY 11719 CLEAR LAKE POINT CIRCLE,
PRINCETON, TEXAS. 
          I THINK MANY OF MY CONCERNS HAS BEEN ELOQUENTLY EXPRESSED BY COUNCILMEM BER TODD. 
          A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TIMING OF THE NOTICE. 
          WE BUILT OUR HOUSE OUT ON CLEAR LAKE POINT CIRCLE TWO YEARS AGO. 
          LOVE THE AREA. YOU KNOW, SPEND MUCH OF OUR TIME IN PRINCETON,
AS MANY OTHERS DO ALSO, BUT FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HAVING TO GET UP TO SPEED OVER THE PAST WEEK ON BOTH WHAT THE CITY IS
PLANNING ON DOING AND WHAT THE COUNTY'S PLANNING ON DOING. 
          MY BACKGROUND I'VE WORKED FOR MANY CITIES ACROSS THE METROPLEX AND RETIRED A COUPLE OF
MONTHS AGO, AND I KNOW UNDERSTAND BUDGETS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITIES,
BUT ONE THING I HEARD THE CHIEF SAY WAS, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD HIM SAY, THAT THE COUNTY HAD BEEN APPROACHED WITH A $1.1 MILLION FEE
TO CONTINUE SERVICE TO THE BRANCH COMMUNITY, AND IT MAY BE TO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST BRANCH OR IF THAT'S COLLIN COUNTY,
YOU KNOW, OTHER AREAS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. I THINK YOU TURNED YOUR MIC OFF. 
          I'M SORRY. PUSH THE BUTTON AND IF YOU CAN STEP CLOSER TO IT,
I THINK IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, AND I BELIEVE I READ THAT THE COUNTY'S ALREADY PAYING $950,000 A YEAR. 
          NOW, IF THERE'S ONLY A $200,000 DELTA, I DON'T SEE THE COUNTY. 
          I MEAN, IF THEY'RE FLINCHING AT $200,000 AND WE NEED TO BE DOWN THERE TALKING TO THEM. 
          IF THAT'S TRULY WHAT IT IS TOTAL AND I'D KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS KNOWING WHO TO TALK TO. OBVIOUSLY SOME OF OUR I HAVE,
YOU KNOW, 8 OR 10 OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE WITH ME KNOWING WHO TO TALK TO IS ALSO AN ISSUE, I THINK, AND NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE CITY,
BUT WITH THE COUNTY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO THE CHIEF'S TALKING TO AT THE COUNTY ABOUT THIS AND WHO'S TELLING THEM,
NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND IT. READ THROUGH THE ESD STUFF THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TWO YEARS. 
          COUNCILMEMBER TODD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO SPAN THE GAP BETWEEN OCTOBER OF
THIS YEAR AND TWO YEARS FROM NOW, PER CHANCE THE ESD IS VOTED THROUGH AND THEN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE BOARD. 
          ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE TAXING DISTRICT CAN ACTUALLY BE IN PLAY AND HAVE
MONEY TO PAY BACK TO PRINCETON TO COVER. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S SOME INFORMATIONAL GAPS THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW. 
          OBVIOUSLY THAT DELTA, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS THAT THE COUNTY CHOKED ON THERE,
THE CHIEF SAID. 
          WE WANT X MILLION A YEAR TO COVER BRANCH OR TO COVER ALL OF COLLIN COUNTY,
WHICHEVER THAT NUMBER WAS WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW ALSO, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE GAP,
YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS BRANCH HAVING A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT EVER AGAIN. I'M NOT SURE THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE DINOSAURS KIND OF LIKE ME. 
          THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE INTEREST IN THEM ARE OLD PEOPLE WHO CAN'T HARDLY PICK UP THEIR
FEET, MUCH LESS PICK UP A HOSE AND PUT OUT A FIRE ANYMORE AND HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT. 
          THEY'RE RETIRED PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW THE FORMER CHIEF. 
          I KNOW HE WAS A GREAT GUY. EVERYBODY LOVED HIM,
AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT, IF THERE'S REALLY ANY REAL FEASIBILITY ABOUT GETTING A BRANCH VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT
BACK UP AND RUNNING AGAIN. 
          SO WE'RE ALL CONCERNED. OBVIOUSLY, LOSING FIRE PROTECTION IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT. 
          I MEAN, AS YOU SAID, WE'RE ALL PEOPLE. WE ALL HAVE NEEDS. 
          WE ALL HAVE FEARS, YOU KNOW, I'M OLD. I HAVE A LOT OF HEALTH ISSUES,
AND SO I NEED NOT ONLY FIRE PROTECTION, BUT I NEED, YOU KNOW, EMTS TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND CHECK ME OUT EVERY NOW AND THEN. 
          SO, ANYWAY, ANYTHING YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP GET SOME INFORMATION,
AND I REALIZE I THINK MR. LONG SAID YOU NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH INTEREST TO DIG INTO WHOEVER YOU'RE PAYING MONEY TO,
AND I AGREE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS IS JUST ME NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE COLLIN COUNTY AND WHAT'S
GOING ON. 
          SO I'LL TRY AND PAY BETTER ATTENTION AND HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE CONSIDERATION. 
          YOU'RE OUT YOU'RE OUT OF TIME, BUT SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS,
I, WE CAN UPDATE THE WEBSITE AND ADD MORE INFORMATION TO IT SO WE CAN ADD MORE CONTACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO OUR WEBSITE WE WILL,
WE WILL PUT A LINK UP THERE THAT WILL HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION. 
          ALL RIGHT, MR. TOM, I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR WAS IT TOM RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME THERE,
TOM. 
          [01:10:02]
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE COUNTY HAD A $950,000 FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON. 
          THE ACCURATE INFORMATION IS IN 2013, THE COUNTY SET THEIR BUDGET FOR FIRE SERVICES IN THE
UNINCORPORATED AREA FOR $950,000, SPLIT AMONGST THE 22 CITIES. SO IT'S $950 SPLIT,
AND WE AND WE GET $175 WAS WHAT WAS PAID LAST YEAR $ 175,000 WHAT THE CITY OF,
OF PRINCETON WAS PAID FOR THEIR FIRE SERVICES. 
          JIMMY KNIPP. EXCUSE ME. 
          HAVE YOU PUSHED THE BUTTON? IT SHOULD BE THE BOTTOM LAYER. 
          UNDER CANCEL. MY NAME IS JIMMY KNIPP. I WAS A FORMER FIRE CHIEF IN BRANCH FOR ITS DURATION
OF A LITTLE OVER 30 YEARS. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL HAVE DONE WITH THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT THAT'S BEEN DOWN THERE. 
          THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. A BUNCH OF GREAT GUYS,
AND THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO, I'VE ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS. 
          IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO ASSIST YOU MOVING FORWARD,
PLEASE GET AHOLD OF ME. 
          I THINK, MARY, YOU'VE GOT MY CONTACT INFORMATION ALREADY. 
          THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. KEVIN HISS. 
          KEVIN HISS. I SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL. I AM, AS ALWAYS,
INTENDED TO BE AN OPEN LETTER I'M GOING TO READ HERE TONIGHT. 
          TO THE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL I WRITE THIS LETTER NOT ONLY AS THE CHAIR OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT AS A RESIDENT OF PRINCETON, TEXAS, A CITY I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT AND PROUDLY SERVE. 
          IT'S WITH A HEAVY SENSE OF DUTY AND A STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO INTEGRITY THAT I SPEAK OUT
TODAY ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, MY FELLOW VOLUNTEERS AND RESIDENTS WE ALL SERVE. 
          OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I'VE WITNESSED AND PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED REPEATED INSTANCES
OF BULLYING, INTIMIDATION, AND PUBLIC EMBARRASSMENT BY CITY STAFF. 
          WHAT'S MORE CONCERNING IS THAT THIS BEHAVIOR APPEARS TO BE A PATTERN. 
          ONE THAT IS PERVASIVE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AND DIRECTED AT THOSE WHO DARE TO ASK
QUESTIONS, DEMAND TRANSPARENCY, OR FULFILL THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AS PUBLIC SERVANTS AND ENGAGED
CITIZENS. 
          MOST RECENTLY, A FELLOW COMMISSIONER AND ONE OF THE MOST DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS IN OUR CITY, MAXINE ELLIS, WAS SINGLED OUT AND HUMILIATED BY CITY STAFF DURING HER PARTICIPATION IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, A PROCESS WHICH IS CRITICAL TO THE SUSTAINABLE AND RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR RAPIDLY
GROWING CITY. 
          MAXINE'S ONLY OFFENSE APPEARS TO BE HER COURAGEOUS DECISION TO SPEAK PUBLICLY TO CITY
COUNCIL ABOUT QUESTIONABLE REPRESENTATION REPRESENTATIONS MADE BY CITY STAFF REGARDING THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS ALLOCATED TO THE PUBLIC TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT. 
          HER SERVICE TO THE CITY HAS BEEN TIRELESS AND SELFLESS,
YET SHE WAS RETALIATED AGAINST DURING A VOLUNTARY, VOLUNTEER LED INITIATIVE WHERE ANONYMITY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HONORED. 
          THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. IT'S NOT THE FIRST INSTANCE,
AND I FEAR THAT IT WON'T BE THE LAST UNLESS ACCOUNTABILITY IS DEMANDED AND ENFORCED. 
          AS CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION,
I TOO HAVE FACED EFFORTS TO SILENCE AND INTIMIDATE ME, PARTICULARLY WHEN RAISING VALID CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE,
AN ISSUE THAT LEGALLY AND ETHICALLY IS CENTRAL TO EVERY ZONING CHANGE AND PLAT APPROVAL. 
          AT MULTIPLE MEETINGS, I'VE BEEN INTERRUPTED AND DISMISSED BY CITY STAFF AND ASKED WHEN
ASKING NECESSARY QUESTIONS THAT IMPACT NOT ONLY OUR DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF PRINCETON RESIDENTS. THIS BEHAVIOR IS UNPROFESSIONAL,
DISRESPECTFUL, AND ERODES THE AUTHORITY OF THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION. 
          EARLIER THIS YEAR IN FEBRUARY, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RESPONSIBLY TABLED A MAJOR
DEVELOPMENT THE LARGEST COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY'S HISTORY DUE TO UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AND INCONSISTENCIES IN THE DEVELOPER'S STATEMENTS REGARDING DRAINAGE PLANS,
INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING THE COMMISSION AND OUR DUTY, CITY STAFF SIDED WITH THE DEVELOPER AND ATTEMPTED TO SHUT DOWN OUR INQUIRIES. 
          THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT THIS MATTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT REVIEWING THE MEETING
ITSELF, LEADING TO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT REMOVING. 
          [01:15:02]
THANK YOU. LEADING TO DISCUSSIONS WITHOUT REMOVING COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE SIMPLY
PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES. 
          WHILE THIS COURSE WAS ULTIMATELY ABANDONED AFTER THE MEETING WAS REVIEWED,
THE MESSAGE WAS CLEAR, THOSE WHO CHALLENGED THE STATUS QUO MAY BE PUNISHED. 
          THE TROUBLING PATTERN REPEATED ITSELF AFTER THE APRIL MEETING,
WHEN I AGAIN RAISED THE VALID CONCERNS ABOUT MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS. 
          INSTEAD OF BEING MET WITH COLLABORATION AND CLARITY,
I WAS MET WITH BEHIND THE SCENES COMPLAINTS AND VEILED THREATS OF REMOVAL DISCUSSED IN CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY OR DUE PROCESS. 
          THIS WAS FOLLOWED BY CITY STAFF MISLEADING THE HOST OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT AND
GIVING WARNING ABOUT MY SPEAKING PUBLICLY AS PLANNING AND ZONING CHAIR. 
          AN INTERACTION THAT WAS RECORDED, AIRED PUBLICLY AND WAS LATER AMENDED TO REMOVE THE
CLOSED CAPTIONS OF THE INTERACTION. 
          NOW, THIS CONDUCT FROM MULTIPLE ARMS OF THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATION IS NOT ONLY UNETHICAL,
IT'S CORROSIVE. 
          IT UNDERMINES PUBLIC TRUST, DISCOURAGES VOLUNTEERISM,
AND BREEDS A CULTURE WHERE DEVELOPMENT INTERESTS ARE GIVEN MORE WEIGHT THAN PUBLIC CONCERNS OR STATUTORY PROCESS. AS A HOME RULE CITY,
WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON LOCAL GOVERNANCE, BUT WHEN THE CITY'S HIGHEST RANKING EMPLOYEE,
THE CITY MANAGER, DOES NOT RESIDE HERE, DOES NOT EXPERIENCE THE DAY TO DAY IMPACT OF POOR DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS, AND WILL NOT LIVE WITH CONSEQUENCES OF MISMANAGEMENT FOR DECADES TO
COME IT IS INCUMBENT ON OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO EXERCISE THEIR OVERSIGHT ROLE WITH RIGOR AND INTENTION. 
          LET ME BE UNEQUIVOCAL. CITY STAFF WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF PRINCETON. 
          THEIR SALARIES ARE PAID FOR BY OUR TAX DOLLARS. 
          THE RESIDENTS, VOLUNTEERS AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS WHO SERVE THE CITY ARE NOT OBSTACLES TO
BE MANAGED. 
          WE'RE THE BACKBONE OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE'RE THE ONES WHO SHOW UP WHEN NO ONE ELSE WILL. 
          WE'RE THE ONES ASKING QUESTIONS THAT OTHERS ARE AFRAID TO,
AND WE DESERVE RESPECT, NOT RETALIATION. 
          IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY, THE CITY MANAGER, TO FOSTER A CULTURE THAT VALUES RESPECT,
TRANSPARENCY AND COLLABORATION, AND IT IS THE DUTY OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT HE DOES. 
          WE'RE THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. WITH THAT GROWTH COMES RESPONSIBILITY
TO LEAD WITH WISDOM AND COURAGE. 
          WE MUST HOLD OURSELVES AND EACH OTHER TO HIGHER STANDARDS. 
          THAT INCLUDES TREATING RESIDENT VOLUNTEERS AND ENGAGED CITIZENS WITH THE DIGNITY THEY HAVE
EARNED THROUGH THEIR SERVICE. 
          I URGE YOU TO TAKE THESE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY NOT BECAUSE I WROTE THEM,
BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE REAL AND THEY REFLECT A GROWING FRACTURE BETWEEN OUR CITY LEADERSHIP AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. THAT FRACTURE WILL ONLY WIDEN UNLESS WE CONTINUE,
UNLESS WE CORRECT COURSE. 
          NOW, I REMAIN COMMITTED TO THIS CITY AND TO SERVING WITH INTEGRITY,
AND I HOPE YOU JOIN ME IN DOING THE SAME. 
          SINCERELY. THANK YOU. MAXINE ELLIS. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. SO, AS YOU KNOW,
USUALLY I COME HERE WITH A NUMBER OF THINGS THANKING YOU ALL AND JUST DIFFERENT THINGS OCCURRING. THE ONE THING I DO NEED TO THANK CHIEF STEVENS,
BATTALION CHIEF CARROLL AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATION IT WAS. THANK YOU. 
          YOU MADE OUR COMMUNITY EVENT THIS PAST SATURDAY THE BEST EVER. 
          HE CAME OUT, THEY BROUGHT THE TRUCK, AND IT WAS A HUGE HIT FOR THE GRAND OPENING OF OUR
ARCADIA FARMS POOL. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          KEVIN HISS, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR KIND WORDS. 
          I DO FEEL I'M BEING RETALIATED AGAINST. I'VE BEEN STARTING I MOVED HERE FOUR YEARS AGO,
ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO. STARTED GETTING INVOLVED IN THE CITY PROBABLY THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO
WITH THE ORIGINAL HOME RULES, AND I WAS LIKE, HEY, THIS IS FUN VOLUNTEERING,
AND I STARTED GETTING MORE AND MORE INVOLVED. 
          THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS CITY THAT I DON'T VOLUNTEER TO HELP WITH
BECAUSE I TRULY CARE ABOUT OUR CITY. 
          AFTER WHAT OCCURRED ON MAY 15TH AT THE PRINCETON PLAYBOOK COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PARKS AND
TRAILS 
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MASTER PLAN, I WAS READY TO THROW IN THE TOWEL AND GIVE EVERYTHING UP FOR THIS CITY. 
          ONE OF THE AND I'LL TELL YOU, IT WAS SO INTERESTING BECAUSE I RECOGNIZED ONE PERSON. 
          IT WAS TRULY A RANDOM SELECTION OF OUR RESIDENTS. 
          THERE WERE PROBABLY CLOSE TO 50 DIFFERENT RESIDENTS. 
          THERE WAS A CONSULTANT GROUP OF CONSULTANTS AND A GROUP OF CITY STAFF,
AND THE FIRST THING THE CONSULTANTS ASKED US TO DO WAS TO TAKE THESE LITTLE STICKY NOTES AND WRITE ONE COMMENT ON A STICKY NOTE FOR A BUNCH
OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT WERE POSTED ON THE BOARDS. 
          THEY WENT ONE BY ONE THROUGH THE CATEGORIES. WHAT DO WE LOVE ABOUT PRINCETON? WHAT DO WE HATE? WHAT ARE OBSTACLES? AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL WAS ABOUT PARKS. 
          WELL, ON THE SIDE OF THE CITY FOR ME PROBABLY TO YOUR TO YOU ALL WAS MY DISTANCE FROM ONE
OF THE BOARDS. 
          STAFF WAS GOING AROUND COLLECTING OUR STICKY NOTES SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE 50 PEOPLE RUN
TO A CATEGORY, RIGHT? AND CITY STAFF MEMBER MEGAN SHE WORKS IN THE PARKS AND SOME RECREATION. SHE HAPPENED TO PICK UP MY STICKY NOTES AND I SEE HER
WITH IT ON HER FINGER, JUST LIKE, CROSS HER FINGER HERE, AND SHE GOES [INAUDIBLE] JUST KIND OF WHISPERS BECAUSE
HE WAS PROBABLY ABOUT FROM ME TO MR. MASHBURN. HE DIDN'T HEAR HER, SO SHE WALKS OVER. 
          I'VE GOT ONE THING MY HUSBAND WILL TELL YOU BECAUSE HE'S DEAF. 
          HE WEARS HEARING AIDS. I'VE GOT GREAT HEARING. 
          I COULD PROBABLY HEAR THREE BLOCKS AWAY. SHE GOES OVER TO CHASE AND SHE SAYS,
LOOK WHAT MAXINE WROTE. 
          NOW GUYS, Y'ALL KNOW ME. I AM NOT AFRAID TO SAY ANYTHING IN PUBLIC. 
          I'M VERY TRANSPARENT AND I TELL Y'ALL HOW IT IS. 
          THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS. I GOT VERY UPSET AND CALLED OUT THE FACT THAT IT
WASN'T ANONYMOUS. SO UPSET THAT I WAS SHAKING, SO ANGRY I HAD TO WALK OUT,
AND AT THAT POINT I WAS DONE. I WAS READY TO GIVE UP. ONE OF THE CONSULTANT GENTLEMEN CAME OVER,
CAME OUTSIDE, TALKED TO ME, ENCOURAGED ME TO COME BACK IN BECAUSE IT WAS FOR THE CITY,
NOT FOR THEM. 
          I FELT HUMILIATED, EMBARRASSED, AND YES, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN CALLING OUT QUESTIONING ABOUT
PARKS. 
          I FEEL IT'S A FORM OF RETALIATION AND I DON'T APPRECIATE IT,
AND IT SHOULD NOT EVER HAPPEN TO ANYBODY. 
          BECAUSE, YES, YOU ALL, ME, EVERYBODY OUT HERE,
WE'RE CITIZENS. 
          WE ARE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY, AND YOU ALL ON STAFF YOU NEED US. 
          YOU NEED US. BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR US, YOU ALL WOULDN'T BE STAFF HERE. 
          YOU ALL WERE ELECTED BY US, AND AGAIN, YOU ARE VOLUNTEERS. 
          ANOTHER FORM OF RETALIATION. SO AT ARCADIA FARMS,
WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PRINCETON THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THE SOCCER FIELD AND THE BASEBALL FIELD. 
          IN EXCHANGE, THE CITY GETS PRIORITY USE FOR THEIR EVENTS,
PRACTICES, GAMES, ETC.. OKAY. THEY ACTUALLY AND GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. SO I'LL GIVE YOU 30 MORE SECONDS. 
          THANK YOU. THE GRASS AT THE SOFTBALL FIELD FROM THE OUTFIELD IS GROWING INTO THE INFIELD. 
          HAVE THEY BEEN OUT TO MAINTAIN IT? NO. WHY? BECAUSE WHERE DOES MAXINE ELLIS LIVE? ARCADIA FARMS, AND WITH THE STORM THIS WEEKEND,
SIDE NOTE, AN ENTIRE DUGOUT ROOF. 
          PART OF IT SITTING ON TOP OF A HOMEOWNER'S ROOF. 
          TO THE POINT WHERE THE MASTER BEDROOM ROOF PART COLLAPSED INTO HER BEDROOM,
AND THE OTHER PART OF THE DUGOUT ROOF IS IN 
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ONE OF MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARDS. SO THAT I KNOW IS STORM DAMAGE,
BUT HOWEVER, UNFORTUNATELY, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PARKS, HOW I WAS TREATED AT THIS VOLUNTEER EVENT WAS DEFINITELY
IMPROPER AND I HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ANYBODY ELSE. 
          THANK YOU, AND , MAXINE, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE CITY. 
          I WAS THERE AT THAT EVENT WITH YOU. I SEEN HOW FRUSTRATED YOU WERE YOU KNOW,
LIKE YOU WERE READY TO QUIT, AND I DO SEE WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY. YOU ARE YOU DO VOLUNTEER FOR EVERYTHING,
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU TO KEEP ON GOING. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME ISSUES HERE,
AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THEM, BUT I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR FOR THE CITY,
AND, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU TO KEEP ON GOING BECAUSE WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU. 
          BECAUSE THE PEOPLE LIKE YOU GIVE UP, THEN THIS DOES NOT WORK. 
          SO THANK THANK YOU SO MUCH. LIKE I SAID THAT WILL END PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. 
          [G. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
MISS DAVID GRAVES. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST FOR MAY 27TH, 2025. JOIN US AT THE LIBRARY FOR A COZY AND RELAXING
CROCHET AND KNITTING CLUB ON MAY 30TH FROM 4 TO 6 P.M.. WHETHER YOU ARE A BEGINNER OR AN EXPERIENCED CRAFTER,
THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH OTHERS, SHARE YOUR PROJECTS AND LEARN NEW TECHNIQUES. 
          ALL AGES AND SKILL LEVELS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND. 
          ALL MUST BE REGISTERED AND YOU REGISTER AT THE LIBRARIES OF THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          COME HELP PRESERVE AND CELEBRATE THE RICH HISTORY OF PRINCETON. 
          ON FRIDAY, JUNE 7TH AT 10:30 A.M., THE COLLIN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION WILL PLACE A
TEXAS HISTORICAL MARKER AT PRINCETON CEMETERY. THIS MARKER RECOGNIZES THE CEMETERY'S IMPORTANCE TO THE
HISTORY OF PRINCETON AND COLLIN COUNTY. THAT IS FRIDAY, JUNE 7TH AT 10:30 A.M. 
          AT THE PRINCETON CEMETERY. CELEBRATE INDEPENDENCE DAY AT THE CITY OF PRINCETON FREEDOM AND
FIREWORKS ON JUNE 28TH FROM 6 TO 10 P.M. AT J.M. CALDWELL SENIOR COMMUNITY PARK. 
          ENJOY AN ACTION PACKED EVENING WITH EXCITING ACTIVITIES,
DELICIOUS FOOD, LIVE MUSIC AND PLENTY OF PHOTO WORTHY MOMENTS. ADMISSION, PARKING AND THE KIDS ZONE ARE ALL COMPLETELY FREE. 
          LEARN MORE AT FREEDOM FIREWORKS ON THE CITY'S WEB PAGE. 
          ARE YOU YOUR FAMILY, SCHOOL, GROUP, CHURCH GROUP OR CORPORATION LOOKING TO GIVE BACK TO
THE COMMUNITY? GET INVOLVED BY ADOPTING A SPOT. THE ADOPT A SPOT PROGRAM IS A YEAR LONG COMMITMENT THAT
ONLY REQUIRES SIX CLEAN UP EVENTS A YEAR. HELP KEEP PRINCETON BEAUTIFUL. 
          LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM. ADOPT A SPOT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE,
AND THESE ARE THE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST FROM MAY 27TH, 2025. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER MY THANKS FOR YESTERDAY'S EVENT. THE SERVICE IS HELD AT PRINCETON CEMETERY FOR MEMORIAL DAY. 
          IT WAS PUT ON BY THE VFW POST HERE IN PRINCETON. 
          PRESTON CALLAWAY. SPECIAL THANKS TO HIM AND HIS LEADERSHIP AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE VFW
FOR MAKING IT A PRIORITY TO HONOR THOSE THAT HAVE FALLEN TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK STEVE DEFFIBAUGH FOR BEING THE MASTER OF CEREMONIES THERE AND
LEADING THAT SERVICE AND ALL THE COMMUNITY WORK HE'S DONE IN, IN HIS CAREER. 
          WANT TO ALSO THANK THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR BEING OUT THERE AND SUPPORTING THE CITY
EVENT THE CITY STAFF FOR THEIR 
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ASSISTANCE IN PUTTING ON THIS EVENT WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND THE LOGISTICS THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR PRESENCE ESPECIALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR RAISING THE FLAG AT NOON BACK TO FULL MAST. 
          VERY IMPORTANT, AND ALSO KEY FOR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT THREE WAS THERE
AND WAS ABLE TO GIVE A VERY GOOD SPEECH. SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK HIM FOR HIM JOINING US IN OUR SERVICES. 
          THEN. EXCUSE ME. MOST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS THE BEST PART OF THE EVENT WAS THE HIGH SCHOOL ROTC. 
          THEY WERE THERE TO DO THE FLAG CEREMONY AND TO POST THE COLORS AND TO BREAK THEM DOWN,
AND IT PROVIDES ME SUCH HOPE FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS WHEN I SEE THOSE YOUNG ROTC INDIVIDUALS
BEING LED AND TRAINED TO HONOR OUR FLAGS AND TO HONOR THE COMMITMENT OF THE CITIZENS OF OUR
COUNTRY THAT DEFEND AND MAKE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE. SO IT WAS A VERY ALTHOUGH WE'RE THERE TO REMEMBER THOSE THAT HAVE
FALLEN. 
          IT WAS A VERY GOOD EVENT AND A VERY GOOD SERVICE,
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS RECOGNIZED FOR THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM H. 
          [H. CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE LISTED OR CONSIDERED TO BE
ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THAT WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS
UNLESS COUNCILMEM BERS. 
          SO REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED
IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME. MR. MAYOR,
COULD I REMOVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM H2 TO DISCUSS IN THE REGULAR AGENDA. 
          OH, YEAH. I'M SORRY, AND I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF ITEM H2. 
          I WOULD SECOND THAT. 
          MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ALRIGHT, WE WON'T BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE AT THIS TIME. THIS WILL TAKE US STRAIGHT TO OUR AGENDA. 
          THIS WILL START OFF WITH H2. MISS COOK. 
          [H2. ORD-2025-05-27 Consider approving Ordinance No. 2025-05-27 amending the City of Princeton's FY 2024-25 Operating Budget; and take appropriate action.]
H2, CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025-05-27,
AMENDING THE CITY OF PRINCETON'S FISCAL YEAR 2024-25 OPERATING BUDGET AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. THANK YOU. 
          I'LL GET USED TO THIS, I PROMISE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU. TONIGHT WE PRESENTED A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR YOUR APPROVAL. 
          I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ONE QUESTION. IS THIS A TYPICAL THING TO HAPPEN MID-YEAR? YES. IT GIVES US TIME TO CLEAN UP THE BUDGET. 
          IF THERE'S ANY ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS,
WE PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. YES,
AND I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          SOME OF THESE ARE JUST MY OWN CURIOUS REVIEWING OF THESE. 
          THE FIRST ONE WAS IN THE GENERAL FUNDS. THERE WAS AN ADMIN ADMIN FEE FOR PIDS IN THE
AMOUNT OF 6700, AND I'M SORRY, $672,000. COULD YOU GIVE ME JUST A HIGH LEVEL EXPLANATION OF WHAT THAT
WOULD BE IN REFERENCE TO? AS WE LOOK AT OUR PIDS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO THE CITY,
THERE IS ADMINISTRATIVE COST INVOLVED WITH THAT, AND THESE ARE THE PIDS THAT ARE REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR THOSE COSTS. 
          OKAY. SO THIS IS A FEE THAT WE'RE REIMBURSING OR THEY'RE REIMBURSING TO US. 
          THEY ARE REIMBURSING TO THE CITY. OKAY, AND IN THE SAME GROUPING THERE,
THE GENERAL FUND, THERE'S A MISCELLANEOUS INCOME ITEM FOR $35,000. 
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ANY DETAIL OF WHAT THAT COULD BE IN RELATION TO CAN YOU. 
          IT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND CATEGORY, AND IT'S LISTED OR LABELED AS MISCELLANEOUS INCOME. 
          $35,000. YES. WE JUST NOTICED THAT WE RECEIVED OTHER MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE FOR THE CITY. 
          I CANNOT ANSWER SPECIFICS, BUT I COULD GET THAT FOR YOU LATER. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, AND THERE WAS ALSO ONE IN THAT SAME ONE FOR MISCELLANEOUS
REVENUE FOR 64. 
          I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THAT WAS IN REGARDS TO AS WELL,
IF YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE I HAD A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO WAS IN THE EXPENDITURES
CATEGORY IT HAD ESSER SALARIES, AND I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM IF THAT FEE,
THE SALARIES OR THOSE SPLIT WITH THE ISD OR THAT'S ALL WE DO. WE INCUR ALL THE COSTS FOR THE SAW OFFICERS,
WE INCUR ALL THE COSTS FOR THE SAW, AND THEN THEY, OF COURSE, THE SCHOOLS WILL GIVE THE CITY MONEY BASED ON THE AGREEMENT WE
HAVE WITH THEM. 
          OKAY, AND , COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THOSE ARE SPLIT 50/50,
BUT SHE'S CORRECT. 
          WE PAY IT AND GET REIMBURSED. YEAH. PERFECT. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST MAKING MY NOTES HERE SO I WON'T FORGET. 
          ALL RIGHT, AND THE NEXT ONE I HAVE HERE IS IN THE CDC COLUMN. 
          THERE'S A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $552,000 OF THAT IS LISTED AS AN ADJUSTMENT. 
          DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT'S IN REFERENCE TO DUE TO STAFF TURNOVER WITHIN THE FINANCE
DEPARTMENT? THIS IS JUST CLEANING UP THIS BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR THE BUDGET ITSELF. 
          CAN I GET ANY MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT I MEAN? 500,000 IS A OR PERHAPS I CAN ASK A COUNCILMAN
WHAT IS THAT FEE? WERE YOU IN A MEETING WHERE THAT FEE WAS DISCUSSED IN DETAIL? NOT RIGHT OFF HAND. 
          NOT THAT I CAN REMEMBER, BUT I THINK IT WAS JUST A TYPICAL ADJUSTMENT FROM SOMETHING THAT
WAS NOT ALLOCATED FOR FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I CAN ELABORATE ON THAT IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          IT'S THE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'RE REIMBURSED BY THE CDC ON THAT DIDN'T GET CREDITED BACK TO
THE CITY LAST YEAR. 
          SO THERE'S TWO TRANSFERS BACK TO THE CITY TO CLEAN THAT UP. 
          SO THAT'S THE TRANSFER TO THE CITY FROM THE CDC,
CORRECT. 
          SO THOSE EXPENSES. SO THE CITY PAID THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THAT. 
          THEN WE GET REIMBURSED BY THE CDC WITH THE TRANSITION,
AS MISS WILSON ALLUDED TO, THAT GOT LOST IN THE SHUFFLE LAST YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE CLEANING THAT UP FOR LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR. 
          WHAT DEBT WAS THE CITY PAYING THAT THE CDC HAD TO REIMBURSE? WE CAN GET YOU THE SPECIFICS ON THERE, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF NOTES THAT ARE OUT THERE
FOR VARIOUS BONDS. 
          IS IT OFTEN THAT IT IT'S A YEAR LATER THAT THEY'RE DOING THE REIMBURSEMENT? IT JUST SOUNDS. NO, NO, AND THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE. 
          THAT'S TYPICALLY A FUNCTION THAT HAPPENS AT MIDYEAR,
BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE HAD SOME TRANSITION IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN LAST YEAR. WELL, WE JUST DID OUR AUDIT AND IT CAME BACK GOOD. 
          SO WAS THIS SOMETHING THAT POPPED UP WHEN WE DID THE AUDIT? WHEN WHEN WAS THIS DISCOVERED THAT THE CITY PAID A DEBT AND THEN DIDN'T GET REIMBURSED
FROM THE CDC? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE DID THE AUDIT,
GOT A PRESENTATION AND WAS TOLD IT WENT WELL, BUT NOW WE'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE WAS MONEY THAT WAS OWED TO US FOR A YEAR AND IT ALSO I MEAN,
THIS ALSO PLAYS INTO LIKE WITH, WITH THE MUDS AND STUFF. 
          THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE US MONEY AND THEN WE'RE BEING TOLD THEY HADN'T BEEN. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE NEW. IT'S JUST IT'S OUR MONEY. WE HAVE TO BE MORE ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT,
AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE CONSTANTLY GETTING DROPPED. THESE ITEMS WHERE IT'S LIKE,
OH, YEAH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THIS MONEY WAS THERE OR ACCOUNT FOR THIS MONEY, AND THE AUDITS COMING BACK. GREAT, BUT WE KEEP HAVING THESE THINGS POP UP. 
          SO IT'S JUST VERY CONFUSING OVERALL HOW EVERYTHING'S GREAT,
BUT WE'RE STILL HAVING THESE SURPRISE FINANCIAL THINGS. 
          SO OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN TODD, THIS IS AN INTERNAL FUNCTION. 
          THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT AN AUDIT WOULD HAVE SAID,
HEY, THIS IS A BIG RED FLAG. 
          THIS IS JUST AN INTERNAL BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS. 
          YOU MENTIONED THE BOND. THIS WAS SO THIS IS FOR THE BOND PAYMENT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M NOTICING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN,
BECAUSE I KNOW THE CDC AND CDC HAVE BOTH HAVE SERVICE CONTRACTS WITH WITHIN OUR CITY. 
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THE DISPARITY, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO IS KIND OF WHAT MADE ME SAY,
OKAY, WHY? YOU KNOW, THE CDC IS 75,000. THIS IS HALF A MILLION,
AND THE ONLY THING THAT THE CDC HAS THAT WILL BE OF THAT WILL PROBABLY BRING THIS TO THAT AMOUNT IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO IS THIS IN RELATION TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER? THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE OF THAT 'S OUT THERE. THERE ARE SOME PARK ITEMS THAT ARE THERE AND
WE CAN RESEARCH THOSE AND GET THOSE TO COUNCIL A FTER THE FACT. 
          YEAH, AND THESE ARE ALL ALL GREAT QUESTIONS. CERTAINLY IF WE HAD IT IN FRONT OF IT,
WE'D GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE, LET US KNOW. WE CAN BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ARE WE ABLE TO QUESTION TO MR. MASHBURN? ARE WE ABLE TO FOR THIS CDC ONE TO TABLE,
THIS ONE, UNTIL WE CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY APPROVING. 
          OKAY. WE CAN BRING THE ENTIRE THING BACK AT A DIFFERENT DATE IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SELECT ONE PIECE OUT OF THAT AND APPROVE IT. 
          WE'D HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT. YEAH. 
          LET ME JUST HELP OUT. YES. WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE EXHIBIT THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE
ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BUDGET. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO THE PAPERWORK TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A CLEAN TRAIL OF
THAT. 
          SO IS THIS FOR THE WHOLE BUDGET THAT WE'RE PAUSING ON THE WHOLE MIDYEAR BUDGET FOR THAT
ONE ITEM? OKAY. I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BECAUSE I PUT IN I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE IT MAY INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER,
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WAS FOR ME TO PUT IN A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AS A RESIDENT TO GET DOCUMENTS THAT I COULD SHARE, AND NOT THROUGH PRIVILEGE AND BASED ON THE RESPONSES THAT
I'VE GOTTEN RECENTLY I WOULD WANT TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT WHAT THAT MONEY IS EXACTLY FOR,
AND , AND I BROUGHT WITH ME SOME STUFF FOR THE REST OF COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND WHY I FEEL THAT WAY. THAT I WILL GIVE YOU GUYS. 
          IT'S THE EMAILS SO YOU CAN SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHY I FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO COME UP AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          YOU JUST NEED TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT ONE ITEM,
AND WE CAN JUST BRING THIS UP ON THE NEXT MEETING. 
          SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT. 
          CAN I ASK ONE MORE? YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE. 
          THIS IS FOR THE CDC EXPENDITURE LINE ITEMS. LOOKS LIKE THERE'S THREE OF THEM. 
          DEBT SERVICE NOT BUDGETED FOR FISCAL YEAR 24,
TOTALING. 
          IS THAT $552,358? SO THIS IS DEBT SERVICE FROM THE CDC. 
          TOOK OUT A LOAN AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST, AND THIS IS THE DEBT SERVICE THAT THE CITY'S
GENERAL FUND PAYS. 
          THEN WE COME UP WITH AN INVOICE THE CDC TO PAY US. 
          LAST YEAR WAS A QUITE THE YEAR, TO SAY THE LEAST. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE DEBT SERVICE. 
          COUNCILMAN LONG, I DON'T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE CORRELATION OF THE CDC AND CDC IN TERMS
OF HOW THOSE SAME STAFF, SAME BILL THAT SENT OVER THE DISPARAGING DIFFERENCE IS THE CDC IS 75,000,
AND WE'RE SAYING THAT THE CDC, THE DEBT SERVICES IS 500,000. THERE'S A SO THEY THEY SHARE THE SAME EXACT DEBT. 
          NO, NO. THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DEBT, THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IN THE DEBT IS WHAT WE'RE IN
THE PROCESS OF LOOKING INTO. 
          I PERSONALLY HAVE REQUESTED THE BOND FEE SCHEDULE AND IT DIDN'T EXIST. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE BASING THIS DEBT OFF OF? IF IT DOESN'T EXIST,
HOW DO WE KNOW? I CAN ALSO SAY THAT I'VE REQUESTED SIMILAR AND IT DOESN'T EXIST. 
          IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT, WE DO HAVE A BOND AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE
AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE THAT WILL OUTLINE ALL OF THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL OUTSTANDING DEBT WITH THE CITY. 
          I BELIEVE WHAT COUNCILMAN TODD WAS ASKING WAS ABOUT HOW WE SPENT DOWN THE MONEY,
AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF REPORT. 
          WE CAN GET THAT TYPE OF DATA AS TO HOW THOSE BONDS WERE SPENT DOWN WAY BACK WHEN THEY WERE
ISSUED. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT. IT'S JUST GIVING US TIME TO GET THERE. 
          THAT WAS THE REQUEST FROM TODAY. I'M TALKING ABOUT MY REQUEST FROM MARCH. 
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YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THAT ONE, AND . YEAH, AND HERE I WILL GIVE YOU THIS. 
          YOU ARE WELCOME TO LOOK AT THAT. YOU PROBABLY WILL WANT TO I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. WE'RE GOING TO WE NEED TO SEE SOME THINGS WITH THE FINANCES ON ON
THAT ITEM. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM H2 UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING,
TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION FOR THE BOND FEE SCHEDULE. DETERMINE THE DETAILS OF THIS $552,000
ADJUSTMENT. 
          I SECOND. 
          I MOTION PASSES 4-2 . 
          THIS WILL TAKE US TO K2 PRESENTATION SUMMARIZING THE RESULTS OF SOUTHRIDGE PID NUMBER
THREE SERIES 2025 SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS PRICING 
          [K2. 2025-135 Presentation summarizing the Results of Southridge PID IA #3 Series 2025 Special Assessment Revenue Bonds Pricing. Presented by Jim Sabonis with Hilltop Securities.]
PRESENTED BY JIM SABONIS WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCILMEM BERS, CITIZENS OF PRINCETON. 
          MY NAME IS JIM SABONIS I'M THE WORK WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES. 
          WE ARE A FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO THE CITY, AND AS BEHALF OF OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO
BE YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR WE COORDINATED THE SALE OF THE SOUTHRIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AREA THREE BONDS TODAY. WE HAVE THREE GOALS IN THE PRICING. 
          I'VE INDICATED TO YOU THIS PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PRICING. ONE IS TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE STRUCTURE THAT'S PROPOSED IS THE BEST PRACTICES TO ISOLATE THE CITY FROM ANY FINANCIAL RISK. TWO. TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPOSED FINANCING IS COMPLIANT WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ALL THE FINANCIAL TERMS, CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE INDICATED,
WHICH IT IS, AND THREE, TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THIS CASE. TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS,
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND QUICKLY TO SET THIS IN CONTEXT. IN DECEMBER OF 2020 THE COUNCIL ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE
SOUTHRIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND IN APRIL OF 23 YOU CREATED THE DISTRICT. IT ACTUALLY HAS 880 HOMES. 
          PROPOSED A BUILDOUT OF ABOUT 350 MILLION TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE IN THE DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT INDICATED THEY PAY A PID FEE TO THE CITY OF $1,800 FOR EACH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. A TOTAL OF 1,
584,000 P AID IN PHASES. SINCE THAT TIME, THERE'S BEEN TWO PHASES OF BONDS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED. 
          ONE IN OCTOBER OF 23 AND THEN ONE IN OCTOBER OF OF 24. 
          THIS IS THE THIRD PHASE. THIS PHASE ACTUALLY REPRESENTS 224 HOMES. 
          ALL HOMES ARE ACTUALLY UNDER ALL LOTS ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO THIRD PARTIES TO BE BUILT. 
          IT'LL ACTUALLY HAVE A BUILD OUT OF ABOUT 86 MILLION. 
          THERE WILL BE ABOUT $377,000 ANNUALLY IN AD VALOREM TAXES FOR FOR THE CITY FOR THIS
PROJECT, AND AT THE CLOSING OF THE BOND ISSUE, THEY'LL PAY ABOUT 403,000 ON A PID FEE. 
          THIS MORNING, WE ACTUALLY ORGANIZED THE PRICING OF THE BONDS,
AND THE BONDS WERE PRICED AT $7,739,000 WERE SOLD, WITH YIELDS RANGING FROM 4.58 TO 6.02%. 
          WE WERE OVERSUBSCRIBED ON THE SALE. THERE WERE 13,000,238 ORDERS ON $7.7 MILLION OF BONDS. 
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DUE TO THE OVERSUBSCRIPTION, THE UNDERWRITER WAS ABLE TO CUT THE YIELD ON THE FINAL TWO
MATURITIES, AND AS YOU SEE, THE PARTICIPATING FIRMS ALL THESE FIRMS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN PREVIOUS
SALES FOR PRINCETON BID BONDS, BUT THESE REPRESENT THE LARGEST HOLDERS OF HIGH YIELD TAX INVESTMENTS. 
          THE FOLLOWING SHEET KIND OF TALKS ABOUT WHAT WHAT HOW ACCURATELY THESE WERE PRICED. 
          THESE WERE PRICED AT A SPREAD OF 148 BASIS POINTS OVER THE 30 YEAR MMD. 
          THE RISK FREE RATE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND PREVIOUSLY HAVE COME BEFORE YOU,
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW RATES HAVE COME DOWN FROM ABOUT 220 TO ABOUT THE 150%. 
          150 BASE POINT LEVEL. THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE MOST EFFICIENT PRICING OVER THE BONDS. 
          IN FACT, THERE'S ONLY ONE BOND THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT'S ACTUALLY PRICED AT 100 AND 46.5
BASIS POINTS, AND THAT WAS WHEN WE DID HERE AT THE CITY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. 
          SINCE THEN, THOUGH DUE TO OVERALL ECONOMIC EVENTS,
THERE'S BEEN OUTFLOWS IN OUR, IN OUR OUTFLOW OF FUNDS FROM THE HIGH YIELD FUNDS, AND SO THIS WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL SALE. 
          TONIGHT, THE ORDINANCE INDICATES $7,039,000 OF BONDS,
ORIGINAL ISSUE DISCOUNT OF 32,000 UNDERWRITERS DISCOUNT OF 232,000 TO ACTUALLY FUND TOTAL BOND PROCEEDS OF 7,474,000. 
          THE AMORTIZATION IS 30 YEARS. IT WILL ACTUALLY AT THE AVERAGE COUPON RATE OF 9% HAVE AN
ANNUAL PRINCIPAL INTEREST PAYMENT OF 558,000 ON ANNUAL AVERAGE PRINCIPAL PAYMENT PER PARCEL OF $2,493. 
          PRICE THIS MORNING IF YOU APPROVE TONIGHT. JEFF,
YOUR BOND COUNSEL WILL PRESENT IT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, AND WE ANTICIPATE CLOSING ON JUNE 25TH. IN SUMMARY IT'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY ACCELERATED HOW QUICKLY THEY'VE BEEN SELLING HOMES. 
          THE SALE WENT VERY SMOOTHLY, AND I HAVE TO SAY,
I'M VERY PLEASED TO SAY THAT OUR NEW CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, SINCE SHE'S BORN IN JUST THE LAST WEEK, HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND GOT UP TO SPEED WITH
THIS PROJECT. 
          WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TODAY ABOUT THE PRICING. 
          AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, WE BELIEVE, AS I SAID,
INDICATED IT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. 
          IT'S THE BEST STRUCTURE, BEST PRACTICE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE FOR CITY ISSUED BONDS AND
IT'S OFFICIALLY PRICED PROJECT. 
          WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WITH THAT CONCLUDES MY FORMAL COMMENTS. 
          TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION I CAN. 
          I GUESS MY QUESTION GOES TO THE CITY. DID OR HAS CODE ENFORCEMENT SWUNG BY TO ENSURE THAT
THE VARIOUS CONCERNS AND THOSE AREAS ARE MET? SO THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS MET ON BOTH SIDES. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMAN TODD. YES. 
          I VISITED THE SITE A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS,
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ALSO WITH MR. MAPP IN INSPECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S UNDER
CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE EXISTING PHASES WE ARE INSPECTING AND WE ARE TIGHTENING UP OUR ENFORCEMENT OF
[INAUDIBLE] ISSUES. 
          WE'LL BE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT COMPLIANCE IS MET BEFORE WE
CONTINUE WITH INSPECTIONS OF HOMES. 
          THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOMES WILL BE CLOSELY MONITORED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE
COMPLYING, AND I KNOW WE JUST HAD THE STORMS IN THE LAST TWO DAYS AND WHATNOT. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE? I GUESS NOT. IS IT IN YOUR PLAN TO SWING THROUGH THERE,
NOW THAT WE'VE JUST HAD A STORM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRECAUTIONS PUT IN PLACE ARE WORKING
EFFECTIVELY DURING AND AFTER A STORM LIKE WE JUST HAD? ABSOLUTELY. I WAS THERE TODAY, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          SO MAYOR, BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD. SO THIS IS NOT. 
          YEAH, YEAH. NEVER MIND. SORRY. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY,
WE CAN MOVE ON TO 
          [K3. ORD-2025-05-27-01 Consider approving Ordinance No. 2025-05-27-01 authorizing the issuance of the City Of Princeton, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025 (Southridge Public Improvement District Improvement Area No. 3 Project); approving and authorizing an indenture of trust, a bond purchase agreement, a continuing disclosure agreement and other agreements and documents in connection therewith; making findings with respect to the issuance of such bonds; providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
K3. CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025-05-27-01 AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITY
OF PRINCETON TEXAS 
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SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2025. SOUTHRIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT
IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER THREE PROJECT APPROVING, AUTHORIZING, AND INDENTURE OF TRUST BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT. 
          CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT AND OTHER AGREEMENTS DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH. 
          MAKING FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BOND,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TAKING APPROPRIATE ACTION. 
          PRESENTED BY JEFF. HOW DO YOU SAY YOUR LAST NAME? SORRY, SORRY. YES. NO WORRIES. GOOD EVENING,
MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          JEFF GULBAS WITH MCCALL. WE'RE T HE CITY'S BOND COUNSEL. JIM GETS THE BETTER JOB OF GOING
OVER THE NUMBERS. 
          I JUST GET TO COVER THE LEGAL, WHICH IS NOT NEAR AS INTERESTING. 
          I'LL DO IT RELATIVELY QUICKLY. THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU IS COUNCIL ACTION TO SELL THE
BONDS THAT JIM JUST DESCRIBED FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER THREE FOR SOUTHRIDGE. 
          JUST AS A REMINDER THIS IS THIS DISTRICT WAS CREATED A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS AGO. 
          WE'VE SOLD BONDS LEVY ASSESSMENTS FOR PHASES ONE AND TWO. 
          AT THE PRIOR MEETING ON THE 12TH, WE DID LEVY ASSESSMENTS ON PHASE THREE,
AND TONIGHT, THIS ORDINANCE DOES SELL THE BONDS SECURED BY THOSE ASSESSMENTS. 
          THE ORDINANCE DOES APPROVE. THE TRUST INDENTURE CONTAINS THE TERMS OF THE BONDS,
THE MATURITIES, RATES, REDEMPTION PROVISIONS, ALL OF THAT JIM JUST COVERED,
AND THOSE HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN COMPLETED NOW THAT PRICING IS WRAPPED UP TODAY. 
          IMPORTANTLY, THE INDENTURE IS IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE THIRD PARTY BANK,
CORPORATE TRUST BANK REGIONS. 
          REGIONS BANK IS THE CORPORATE TRUST ENTITY SERVING AS THE INDENTURE TRUSTEE. 
          THEY HOLD THE FUNDS AND THEY'RE AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY WHICH IS STANDARD FOR ALL
TRANSACTIONS, INCLUDING THE CITY. THAT'S VERY, VERY GOOD BECAUSE WHAT YOU WANT IS IT INSULATES THE CITY
FROM HAVING TO HOLD THOSE FUNDS, AND SO THEY FOLLOW THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS, BASICALLY TO PROVE UP WITH THE CITY'S HELP THAT
THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN DONE THAT THE REQUIRED PROVE UP FOR THE COSTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BEFORE THOSE FUNDS ARE RELEASED TO DEVELOPERS. 
          THE ORDINANCE ALSO APPROVES THE LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM. 
          THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT GOES OUT TO THE INVESTING PUBLIC TO BASICALLY IT'S EQUIVALENT OF
A PROSPECTUS. 
          IT GIVES TONS AND TONS OF DETAIL ABOUT THE CITY,
ABOUT THIS DISTRICT, ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PRIOR PHASES, ABOUT THE DEVELOPER AND SO AGAIN,
THAT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT IT. 
          WE DO GO THROUGH AS YOUR COUNSEL AND STAFF TO REVIEW THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT DOCUMENT IS
COMPLETE AND ACCURATE BEFORE IT GOES OUT TO THE INVESTING PUBLIC. 
          THE ORDINANCE ALSO APPROVES THE BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH FMS BONDS. 
          THEY'RE THE CITY'S UNDERWRITER ON YOUR PAID BONDS. 
          REPRESENTATIVES FROM FMS ARE HERE TONIGHT. AS JIM SAID THEY ALWAYS DO A VERY GOOD JOB FOR
THE CITY AND SELLING THESE. 
          IT ALSO APPROVES A CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. THIS IS BETWEEN YOUR ADMINISTRATOR
3360 AND REGIONS BANK, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT REQUIRES BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY TO PROVIDE TO THE BOND
MARKET INFORMATION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          RIGHT. BECAUSE YOUR BOND HOLDERS WANT TO KNOW,
LIKE THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO FILE THAT INFORMATION ON YOUR OWN BEHALF. 
          THIS ALSO OBLIGATES BOTH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER TO FILE INFORMATION ON HOW
CONSTRUCTION IS GOING, HOW MANY HOMES HAVE BEEN SOLD, WHAT THE PRICES HAVE BEEN SOLD AT. 
          SIMPLY TO KEEP THE BOND MARKET INFORMED AND UP TO DATE. 
          THAT IS A SUMMARY OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE DOCUMENTS THAT IT APPROVES. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE. IF COUNCIL DOES APPROVE THIS TONIGHT,
LIKE JIM SAID, LIKE ALL YOUR OTHER PRIOR TRANSACTIONS WILL FILE WITH THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
THIS WEEK WITH THE CLOSING SCHEDULED FOR LATE JUNE. 
          IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K3. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. 
          MOTION. MOTION PASSES FOUR TWO. K 6. 
          2025-140 DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FUNDING THROUGH DEBT
ISSUANCE. 
          PRESENTED BY CFO KELLY WILSON. MAYOR, YOU DID SKIP K4 AND 
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K5. WE CAN CERTAINLY GO OUT OF ORDER. JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          I APOLOGIZE. PRESENTATION SUMMARIZING THE 
          [K4. 2025-136 Presentation summarizing the Results of Windmore PID IA #2 Series 2025 Special Assessment Revenue Bonds Pricing. Presented by Jim Sabonis with Hilltop Securities.]
RESULTS OF WINDMORE PID NUMBER TWO SERIES 2025 SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND PRICE BY
JIM SABONIS WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES. AGAIN MAYOR COUNCILMEM BERS, CITIZENS JIM SABONIS WITH HILLTOP TO REPORT THE
RESULTS OF THE PRICING OF THE WOODLAWN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AREA NUMBER TWO. 
          THIS BOND ISSUE WAS SOLD SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH SOUTH RIDGE. 
          THEY'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL IN PRICING, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF KEY THINGS I WANT TO
MENTION. 
          THIS IS REALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PUT IN PLACE BY THE
CITY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED IN MARCH OF 22. 
          THE ACTUAL DISTRICT WAS CREATED ON APRIL EXCUSE ME MAY OF 22,
AND THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS DISTRICT IS THERE'S NO TOURISM MONEY INVOLVED. 
          IT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT. THEY ACTUALLY PAY THE $1,800 PID FEE PER RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S NO TOURISM DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS IS 1700 HOMES THAT WAS IN THE ETJ THAT WILL NOW COME INTO THE CITY AND PAY FULL
TAXES. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECTS THAT I INDICATED 1730 HOMES. 
          THIS PHASE TWO THERE WAS ORIGINAL PHASE DONE. 
          IN OCTOBER OF 24, WE FUNDED BONDS, 9.1 MILLION THAT'S BEEN FULLY ABSORBED. 
          THESE 271 LOTS IN PHASE TWO HAVE ALREADY BEEN FULLY COMMITTED TO THIRD PARTY,
EITHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR PROPOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION. 
          THEY'LL HAVE A BUILD OUT VALUE OF 107 MILLION,
AND THEY'LL ADD JUST UNDER $500,000 IN AD VALOREM TAX TO THE CITY WITH NO TOURIST COMMITMENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. ALSO, AT THE CLOSING OF THIS BOND ISSUE,
THE DEVELOPER PAID JUST UNDER $500,000 FEE TO THE CITY. 
          THE PRICING WAS IDENTICAL. YIELDS FROM 4.58% TO 6.02%. 
          SIMILAR RESULTS IN THE SALES AS THESE ARE PRICED SIMILARLY SIGNIFICANT. 
          MORE INTEREST ON THE BACK END THAN THE FRONT END,
AND IT'S A GOOD PRICING. 
          WE WANT TO BE TIGHT. WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO OVERSUBSCRIBED BECAUSE IT MEANS MAYBE TOO
GENEROUS, BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A WELL-PRICED TRANSACTION. 
          THE LAST TWO MATURITIES OF 45 AND 55 WHEN THEY WERE OVERSUBSCRIBED DURING THE PRICING,
WE REDUCED THE YIELD BY TWO TWO BASIS POINTS, AND THE ORDERS HELD SAME GROUP OF FOUR INVESTMENT FUNDS. 
          THE LEADERS OF THE INDUSTRY ALL PUT ORDERS FROM THIS TRANSACTION. 
          I WENT THROUGH THIS SLIDE PREVIOUSLY 150 BASIS POINTS IS REALLY THE ACTUAL EDGE OF WHERE
THESE TYPE OF TRANSACTIONS ARE PRICING AT. 
          IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WE WENT OUT AT 150 BASIS POINTS OVER MMD BECAUSE THE OVER
DESCRIPTION, WE END UP PRICING AT 148 BASIS POINTS, WHICH IS REALLY A VERY EFFICIENT TRANSACTION. 
          THE ORDINANCE INDICATES 6,712,000 IN A PRIOR AMOUNT OF BONDS. 
          THE NET BOND PROCEEDS OF 6,482,000, WHICH WILL BE USED TO FUND THE PROJECT,
FUND A DEBT SERVICE RESERVE. 
          THE COST OF ISSUANCE IN THE INITIAL YEAR DEPOSIT INTO THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNT. 
          THE 30 YEAR AMORTIZATION WILL RESULT IN PRINCIPAL INTEREST OF 14,500,000,
ABOUT $484,000, AND ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE IN $2,163 PER PARCEL. 
          AGAIN, IF YOU APPROVE THIS BOND, COUNCIL WILL SUBMIT IT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND WE
SUBMIT WE PROJECT CLOSING ON JUNE 25TH. 
          IN SUMMARY, THIS WAS ANOTHER IDENTICAL PRICING. 
          SIMILAR PROJECTS, SIMILAR QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE KEY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THIS HAS NO TIRZ AND ALL THE VALUE WILL COME INTO THE CITY. 
          AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR. IT REPRESENTS THE BEST STRUCTURE THAT WE USE FOR BONDS ISSUED
BY CITY IS COMPLIANT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. 
          IT'S OFFICIALLY PRIVATE TRANSACTION. WE'D RECOMMEND APPROVAL AGAIN. 
          WE'VE WORKED EXTENSIVELY, KELLY, BRING HER INTO THE PROCESS. 
          SHE WAS INVOLVED IN THE PRICING TODAY, AND WITH YOUR BOND COUNSEL AS WE DOCUMENTED THIS. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THEN THAT WOULD BE. I THINK YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT. WE DON'T MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ONE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO. OH, I'M SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO THIS WILL TAKE US TO K5. CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025-05-27-
02 AUTHORIZING 
          [K5. ORD-2025-05-27-02 Consider approving Ordinance No. 2025-05-27-02 authorizing the issuance of the City Of Princeton, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025 (Windmore Public Improvement District Improvement Area No. 2 Project); approving and authorizing an indenture of trust, a bond purchase agreement, a continuing disclosure agreement and other agreements and documents in connection therewith; making findings with respect to the issuance of such bonds; providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
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THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2025. 
          WIN. MORE. PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO PROJECT APPROVING AND
AUTHORIZING AN INDENTURE OF TRUST, A BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT, CONTINUOUS DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT,
AND OTHER AGREEMENTS AND DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH, MAKING THE FINDINGS WITH RESPECT AND ISSUANCE OF SUCH BOND,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS PRESENTATION IS IDENTICAL TO THE ONE. 
          SO THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THIS FRONT SLIDE. THIS THIS DISTRICT WAS CREATED ALMOST EXACTLY
THREE YEARS AGO. 
          SO IT'S NEWER BY A MONTH THAN SOUTHRIDGE. THIS IS THE SECOND PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT WE'VE
PREVIOUSLY SOLD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE BONDS FOR ONE MORE. 
          LAST YEAR WE DID LEVY ASSESSMENTS ON THIS IMPROVEMENT AREA. 
          NUMBER TWO, AT LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON MAY THE 12TH. 
          THE BOND ORDINANCE, LIKE I SAID, IS IS THE SAME AS WHAT WE JUST COVERED. 
          IT DOES IMPROVE THE TRUST INDENTURE WITH REGIONS BANK,
WHICH SAFEGUARDS THE MONEY PENDING ITS RELEASE BY THE CITY OR APPROVAL BY THE CITY. 
          ALSO APPROVES THE LIMITED OFFERING MEMO. AGAIN,
GREAT DOCUMENT TO READ IF YOU WANT ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE DISTRICTS. 
          WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS LIMITED OFFERING MEMO LIKE WE HAVE ON ALL THE OTHERS. 
          THIS ALSO APPROVES THE BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT,
WHICH IS IN STANDARD FORM. 
          AGAIN, YOUR BOND UNDERWRITER IS FMS AND ALSO APPROVES THE CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT
WHICH I DESCRIBED EARLIER, THAT GIVES INFORMATION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO THE INVESTING PUBLIC AND THE BOND MARKET. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LEGALS, HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. 
          I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND THIS DOESN'T REALLY RELATE TO ME. 
          IT RELATES TO THIS, BUT SO I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A TERM ON ANOTHER SIMILAR AN AGREEMENT. 
          HOW COME THERE'S NOT ONE ON THIS ONE? BECAUSE IT WAS STATED THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO PAY
DOWN THE PIDS, BUT IT JUST PAID CHEAPER THAN THE OTHER ONES? OR IS THAT WOULD THAT BE A REASON WHY? BECAUSE THEY'RE AROUND THE SAME. THEY'RE IN THE SAME AREA AND AROUND THE SAME TIME. 
          SO. RIGHT, AND I COULD NOT. JIM, DO YOU RECALL WHY WE DON'T HAVE A TIRZ ON WINDMORE? WHETHER A TIRZ GETS CREATED IS A FACTOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHETHER DEVELOPERS
ASK FOR THEM, BUT I CAN'T RECALL THE SPECIFICS ON WINDMORE. 
          THIS IS A GENERALITIES AND I CAN GET MORE DETAILS. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT TOOK PLACE. THE SOUTHBRIDGE WAS REALLY THERE WERE THREE PARCELS
SOUTHWEST, WEST RIDGE AND EAST RIDGE THAT WERE ALL THE FIRST PROJECTS DONE IN BY THE CITY OF
PRINCETON. 
          ALL OF THEM REPRESENTED MY UNDERSTANDING LAND IN ETJ AND OUTSIDE OF YOUR CCN IN THE FAR
NORTHEAST PART OF YOUR TOWN. 
          THERE'S A DECISION IN, AROUND 19 AND 20 THAT THE CITY WAS PRESENTED BY DEVELOPERS TO ALLOW
THEM TO DO A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS OUT THERE AND ALONG WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSSED,
HEARD PUBLICLY DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY, THE CITY DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT LARGE UTILITY DISTRICTS IN THEIR ETJ AND SO THEY
NEGOTIATED THE ABANDONING THE UTILITY DISTRICT STRUCTURE AND COMING INTO THE CITY AND PART OF THAT AGREEMENT TO MAKE IT A WIN
WIN FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE DEVELOPER WAS A TOURIST AGREEMENT. 
          SINCE THAT TIME, YOU MOVE FORWARD, THERE'S BEEN OTHER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS PUT IN PLACE,
AND I BELIEVE THE CITY DETERMINED THAT GOING FORWARD, ON DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT, THEY HAD TO EVALUATE EACH PROJECT,
AND WHEN IT CAME TO WINDMORE, THE CITY WAS NOT INTERESTED IN GIVING A TIRZ,
BUT THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE CITY AND AVE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT HAVE RECOVERY. SO HE IS WILLING TO SIGN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS
NEGOTIATED AT THAT TIME WITHOUT THE TIRZ. 
          SO I THINK IT WAS KIND OF FIRST IN THE FIRST COUPLE PROJECTS WERE DONE,
AND SINCE THAT TIME THE CITY HAS EVOLVED AND WHAT ITS BENCHMARKS ARE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT ITS ECONOMIC BENCHMARKS ARE,
AND THAT'S WHAT I POINTED OUT, THAT PROJECT WAS DONE AND NEGOTIATED SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT ANY CONCESSION TO THE DEVELOPER REIMBURSEMENT OF TOURIST FUNDS. 
          I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING,
THEN YOU SAID THAT WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY. 
          WOULD THAT INCLUDE WITH THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE TIRZ? I'M JUST CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION, SIR? AND SO WHEN YOU PRESENT IT FOR I MUST SAY,
IT WAS EAST RIDGE, YOU SAID THAT IT WAS THE PIT ITSELF WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY. 
          IS THAT JUST RELATED TO THE BOND WITH THE TIRZ IN MIND WHEN WE. 
          WELL, I THINK MY GENERAL CONCEPT IS AND IT IS THAT IN MY BELIEF THAT THE STRATEGY OF THE
CITY AT THE TIME FELT THAT HAVING VERY 
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LARGE UTILITY DISTRICTS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY THAT DIDN'T PAY TAXES,
DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR ROADS OR YOUR PARKS OR YOUR PUBLIC FACILITIES, BUT WOULD BE A COST TO THE CITY, AND THEY WOULD LACK CONTROLS THAT BEING IN THE CITY WOULD
ALLOW THEM, AND ALSO THAT IN THOSE AREAS AT THE TIME THE NEGOTIATION WAS TAKING PLACE,
THEY WEREN'T IN THE CCN OF THE CITY, AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS,
AND THE STAFF AND THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME FELT THAT IT WAS BETTER TO HAVE THEM COME INTO THE CITY TO GIVE TIRZ FOR A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME AND ALSO LET THEM BE HELD TO THE
BUILDING STANDARDS AND PAYING TAXES TO THE CITY AT THAT TIME. SO, SO THE POINT BEING IS THAT IT WAS A STRATEGIC GOAL NOT
TO HAVE THE UTILITY DISTRICT AND TO FACILITATE ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY. SO THE WAY TO LOOK AT THAT AT THE TIME WAS IT'S NOT IF THERE'S
GOING TO BE PID IN TIRZ OR NOT IN TIRZ IS DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT WITH NO FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THE CITY,
BUT POTENTIAL FINANCIAL COST? AND OR HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S IN THE CITY PAYING TAXES,
PARTICIPATING IN THE CITY'S ECONOMY AND BEING RULED BY THE CITY? THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE AT THAT TIME. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL? THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM K5 AS
SUBMITTED. 
          I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. I MOTION PASSES FOUR TWO. K6. 2025-140. DISCUSSION AND 
          [K6. 2025-140 Discussion and Presentation on Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) Funding Through Debt Issuance-presented by CFO Kelly Wilson.]
PRESENTATION ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FUNDING THROUGH DEBT ISSUANCE PRESENTED BY CFO
KELLY WILSON. 
          WHILE SHE'S GETTING THAT UP. GET TO MY NOTES HERE. 
          TONIGHT YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND BOND COUNSEL REGARDING THE
AUTHORIZATION TO ISSUE DEBT FOR VARIOUS CITY PROJECTS, BUT BEFORE YOU HEAR FROM THEM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE
PROJECTS FOR WHICH WE ARE SEEKING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT, AS WELL AS TONIGHT, HIGHLIGHT SOME CURRENT LEGISLATIVE DEVELOPMENTS AT
THE STATE LEVEL THAT MAY IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND EFFECTIVELY TO OUR COMMUNITY'S GROWTH. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY CONTINUES TO EXPERIENCE RAPID GROWTH,
AND WITH THAT COMES INCREASING DEMAND FOR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS STREETS, PARKS, UTILITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES AND ON THE PROJECTS WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT
ARE DIRECTLY TIED TO THOSE NEEDS AND ARE ESSENTIAL IN MAINTAINING OUR SERVICE LEVELS AND QUALITY OF LIFE. AT THE SAME TIME,
I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO SEVERAL PIECES OF LEGISLATION BEING CONSIDERED AT THE CURRENT TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE BILLS THAT,
IF PASSED, COULD SIGNIFICANTLY CONSTRAIN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ABILITY TO ISSUE DEBT, ADJUST TAX RATES, OR EVEN THOSE DECISIONS CLEARLY IN RESPONSE TO OUR GROWTH AND COMMUNITY
NEEDS. 
          SO HERE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF SOME IMPACTS THAT COULD BE POTENTIAL FOR OUR DEBT AND TAX
LAW POSSIBILITIES. 
          PROHIBIT ANY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT FROM BEING ISSUED. 
          IF THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE IN THE CITY'S TOTAL TAX SUPPORTED DEBT EXCEEDS 20% OF ITS THREE
YEAR HISTORICAL AVERAGE OF TAX REVENUE. 
          REQUIRE SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE DEBT. 
          PROHIBIT DEFEASANCE OF DEBT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS,
AND PROHIBIT ELECTION TO AUTHORIZE SURPLUS TAXES TO BE AVAILABLE FOR DEBT SERVICE. 
          ALSO, SOME NONVOTING DEBT POSSIBILITIES ON CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS. 
          THIS WOULD REDUCE THE PETITION THRESHOLD FROM 5% TO 2% OF VOTERS. 
          RESTRICT THE USES TO ONLY EMERGENCY PROJECTS,
ALLOW FOR STREETS AND UTILITY PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED BY CEOS, BUT PROHIBIT POLICE, FIRE, PARK, LIBRARY, PARKING,
AND MAJOR MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING BUILDINGS OR OTHER PURPOSES. 
          THAT IS A VERY BIG IMPACT RIGHT THERE. PROHIBIT THE ISSUANCE OF COS FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          IF A BOND ELECTION FAILS TO PROJECT FOR A PROJECT AND REQUIRE THAT COS BE PAID FROM M&O
TAX INSTEAD OF THE I&S TAX RATE. 
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SO. WHAT WE DISCUSSED, I KNOW THAT THE CHIEFS DISCUSSED IN DETAIL WITH COUNCIL AT THE
STRATEGIC RETREAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK, WAS THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND A FIRE TRAINING TOWER. 
          OF THAT. THEY PRESENTED SOME CHANGES AND SOME CHALLENGES AND SOLUTIONS AHEAD FOR THEM AND
DISCUSS THE VOLUMES AND RISING AND POPULATION VOLUME CALLS OF RISING DUE TO POPULATION FACILITY OVERCROWDING, AND THEN THEY GAVE SOME SOLUTIONS FOR POTENTIAL
PHASE GROWTH FOR THE FUTURE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND ADDRESSING THE ISO RATING. WE RECEIVED VERY POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL THAT DAY WITH REGARD TO THIS
PROJECT. 
          COST FOR THIS PROJECT IS ANYWHERE FROM 35 TO 40 MILLION FOR PHASE ONE. 
          THIS EXCLUDES PERSONNEL, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ISSUING BONDS FOR THAT. 
          SO WE ARE ASKING TONIGHT YOU WILL SEE TONIGHT FOR FUNDING OF THAT WILL BE CERTIFICATE OF
OBLIGATIONS A SERIES 2025 NOT TO EXCEED 25 MILLION. 
          THE TIMELINE OF ISSUING THAT WOULD BE THE SUMMER OF 2025. 
          I'M GOING TO FLIP TO THE OTHER PROJECT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE OBVIOUSLY,
THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS BACK IN 2023 FOR 109 MILLION TO FUND PARKS AND REC. WE ARE LOOKING AT ISSUING OUR FIRST TRANCHE OF THOSE GEO BONDS,
NOT TO EXCEED 55 MILLION, AND AGAIN, ISSUING THOSE IN THE SUMMER OF 2025. 
          COUNCIL GAVE VERY DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE GEO BONDS
WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE AS A TIMELINE THAT WAS PRESENTED DURING THE STRATEGIC RETREAT TO COUNCIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK, WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT PARKS,
VARIOUS PHASES OF COMMUNITY PARKS, AS WELL AS THE MULTI GEN RECREATIONAL CENTER. 
          SO I HOPE THIS OVERVIEW WAS HELPFUL IN HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND SOME OF THE
POTENTIAL LEGISLATIVE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE MAY BE FACING IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AS WELL AS PROVIDING CONTEXT FOR THE PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH
TONIGHT'S DEBT ISSUANCE REQUEST. 
          WHILE THERE'S NO FORMAL FORMAL ACTION FOR MY ITEM HERE,
I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS WITH THESE BONDS AND THE DEBTS THAT THE CITY HAS,
I GUESS. 
          HOLD ON THAT ONE. FIRST QUESTION DO THE DEBTS OF THE EDC AND CDC ALSO COUNT TOWARDS CITY
DEBTS. 
          SO THE BONDS THAT THEY HAVE, THE THINGS THAT THEY TAKE OUT,
DO THOSE ALSO COUNT TOWARDS OUR DEBT COUNT? IT IS PART OF THE TOTAL INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY,
BUT IT'S NOT IN THE I&S RATE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. 
          THE DEBT SERVICE RATE. OKAY. SO THEN SECOND QUESTION,
WITH THE BONDS AND DEBT THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS, IF THIS WERE TO PASS AND THESE CHANGES COME INTO PLAY FOR OUR RATIO AND SMALL
INFRASTRUCTURE WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          HOW BAD WOULD IT BE FOR US IN REGARDS TO WOULD WE STILL BE IN A RANGE WHERE THERE'S WIGGLE ROOM, OR WOULD OUR DEBT RATIO BE PASSING THAT LINE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO
PLAY CATCH UP FOR A WHILE DUE TO THE LITTLE BIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          I JUST WANT TO KNOW, LIKE, HOW BIG THAT IMPACT COULD BE WITH THE BONDS AND,
AND STUFF THAT WE COULD DO GOING FORWARD IN THAT REGARD IF THIS WERE TO PASS THE LEGISLATIVE IMPACT. YES, THAT WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT BECAUSE OUR I&S TAX
RATE IS AT 40% ON AVERAGE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND I BELIEVE THAT ONE STATED THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOPEFULLY THIS WHERE WAS THAT? I BELIEVE IT WAS 20%, I BELIEVE. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PLAY CATCH UP. 
          WE'D BE DOUBLE WHAT IS ALLOWED, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE. 
          THE LEGISLATIVE PASSED. WE WOULD BE WITH ALL THE BONDS AND ALL THE THINGS WE ARE DOING. 
          WE WOULD BE DOUBLE WHAT THE STATE WOULD BE ALLOWING US TO HAVE. 
          SO WE WOULD BE PRETTY DEEP IN THE HOLE HAVING TO GET BACK TO,
TO A POSITION WHERE WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BORROW AND WHATNOT. WOULD THAT HURT OUR BOND RATING? LIKE, HOW DOES THAT REALLY? THAT SOUNDS REALLY BAD TO BE DOUBLE IN THE DEBT OF WHAT THE
STATE ALLOWS. 
          I'M SORRY. SURE. SO YOU'RE ASKING A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. 
          [02:20:05]
SO I DID JUST KIND OF WANT TO UPDATE YOU. THE DEADLINE FOR THOSE BILLS TO GET ON CALENDARS
WAS MONDAY. 
          THOSE DIDN'T MAKE IT. SO IT'S 99.9% THAT WE'RE OUT OF THE CLEAR,
BUT YOU NEVER CAN TELL UNTIL THEY ADJOURNED. 
          THIS WAS HEAVILY WATCHED BY EVERY COUNTY MUNICIPALITY. 
          VERY, VERY BAD FOR PRINCETON AND ALMOST EVERY OTHER TAXING ENTITY IN THE STATE. 
          MEANS YOU CAN'T DO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A VERY LONG TIME,
AND YOU ESSENTIALLY BECOME PAY AS YOU GO. 
          WE DID. WE PULLED A REPORT. I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING. 
          WE FOUND 15 CITIES IN THE STATE THAT DIDN'T MEET IT,
AND THESE WERE TINY WEST TEXAS TOWNS LIKE RALLS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE CLEAR, BUT REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS BECAUSE THIS SHUTS YOU GUYS
DOWN. 
          SO WITH THIS BEING A AN ITEM OF CURRENT LEGISLATORS INTEREST,
WOULD IT BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE AS A CITY PUT A LITTLE MORE EFFORT INTO DROPPING THAT NUMBER AS FAST AS WE CAN,
IN CASE, SHOULD THEY DECIDE IN THE FUTURE TO DO THIS? BECAUSE I KNOW THE REASON FOR IT CAME FROM
THE FACT THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR THE STATES IN REGARDS TO THEIR TAX RATIO, AND THAT INSPIRED THE STATE TO BE LIKE,
HEY, IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PUTTING THAT ON US, WE SHOULD PUT IT ON TO THE MUNICIPALITIES. SO IT'S SOMETHING THE STATE HAS TO DEAL WITH. 
          SO THIS IS NOT AN IDEA THAT'S JUST GOING TO VANISH OVERNIGHT. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR A WHILE. THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN ATTACKED WITH INCREASING
SCRUTINY FOR THE PAST FOUR SESSIONS, AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY AN INTERPLAY OF THE FED. 
          IT'S MORE OF AN INTERPLAY OF THE STATE WANTING TO GOVERN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          IN A VERY GOOD WAY TO DO THAT IS, BY THE WAY,
YOU GUYS RUN YOUR FINANCES. 
          WE'VE SEEN IT IMPACT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN A VERY MEANINGFUL WAY,
AND SO THAT NUMBER DID COME OUT OF THIN AIR. 
          THE 20%, THE STATE HAS A 5% LIMIT, AND THEY QUADRUPLED IT. 
          THERE IS NO BASIS WHETHER IT'S RATING OR SURVEYING OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES. 
          IT WAS IT WAS KIND OF MADE UP, BUT. SO, YES,
IDEALLY LOWER DEBT SERVICE IS GOOD, BUT WHAT THIS DOES ESPECIALLY IS PENALIZE REALLY FAST GROWING CITIES. IT REALLY MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE,
AND SO YOU SEE THIS IT'S IN TALKING WITH MEMBERS, IT'S GREAT. WE'RE CREATING THESE JOBS. 
          IT'S GREAT WE'RE BRINGING THESE PEOPLE IN THESE CORPORATIONS TO TEXAS,
BUT AS WE CAN TELL, EVEN IN THIS CITY, AND PRINCETON IS NOT ALONE. IT TAKES INFRASTRUCTURE. IT TAKES POLICE AND FIRE. IT TAKES ROADS,
IT TAKES UTILITIES, PARKS. 
          THIS STOPS THAT. SO FORTUNATELY YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO HELP AND BUT TO YOUR POINT,
WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE THIS IN FUTURE SESSIONS. OH, YES. I'M GETTING ALL SORTS OF HELP BEHIND ME,
I LOVE IT. 
          COUNCILMEM BER TODD, WE'VE DONE SOME ANALYSIS AND WE'VE BEEN HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THIS,
AND UNIQUELY, THE BIG IMPACT FOR YOUR CITY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE 20% CAP. 
          THE UNIQUE IMPACT FOR YOUR CITY AND MOST CITIES WOULD HAVE BEEN WHAT CAN BE FUNDED,
AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THIS TONIGHT. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS,
BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT DOING CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND WE ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OBLIGATION. WE GO THROUGH LEGAL PROCESS. 
          WE CAN PUT THAT ON YOUR I&S ASPECT OF YOUR DEBT SERVICE,
WHICH IS NOT CONSTRAINED. 
          IT'S CALCULATED SEPARATELY AND DOESN'T IMPACT YOUR 3.5% REVENUE COMMITMENT ON YOUR AND M&O
RATE. 
          SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IF THIS THE BILLS THAT HAD BEEN PROPOSED WOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE. 
          ONE WAS THAT YOU COULD NOT USE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION TO FUND ANYTHING BESIDES ROADS
OR UTILITIES, BUT IF YOU DID CHOOSE TO USE A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION TO DO THAT,
YOU COULDN'T PUT THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE I&S SIDE. 
          IT HAD TO GO ON M&O SIDE. SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE CAPPED OUT AT 3.5% AGGREGATE DOLLAR GROWTH
IN YOUR BUDGET BASED ON LAST YEAR'S BUDGET ON YOUR SIDE. SO HOW MUCH ROOM DO YOU HAVE FOR DEBT SERVICE WHEN YOU'RE
ALREADY FACING INFLATIONARY PRESSURES? NO ONE WOULD BE DOING THAT. NO ONE DOES THAT,
AND THEN SO THERE WOULD BE ACTUALLY NO CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION ISSUED BECAUSE IT'S IMPRACTICAL FOR A CITY TO DO THAT. SECONDLY ON THE GEO SIDE,
THEY WERE GOING TO ONE YEAR, ONE ONCE A YEAR VOTES. SO IN NOVEMBER, ANYBODY THEY WANT TO ISSUE DEBT SCHOOL DISTRICT,
COUNTY ALL BE ON THERE, 
          [02:25:02]
AND WE'D GO THROUGH 30 PAGES OF THAT. IF IT FAILED IT WOULD BE FIVE YEARS FROM YOU'D BE
FUNDING SOMETHING UNTIL YOU CALLED. 
          YOU HAD ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL ELECTION. SO TO ME,
IT'S REALLY ACCESS TO THE MARKET AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU COMMONLY USE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FOR, THEY'RE GENERALLY USED FOR ONGOING NORMAL COURSE OF
BUSINESS. 
          YOU HAVE TO YOU DON'T VOTE IF YOU HAVE TO DO A SEWER,
YOU KNOW, REPAIR OR DO A NEW FIRE STATION. 
          YOU KNOW, MOST OF THOSE TYPE , NOT FIRE STATION,
YOU KNOW, ROLLING STOCK, MOST OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DONE WITH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB, IN MY EXPERIENCE,
FOR YOUR CITY AND MOST CITIES, ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS? YOU, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ARE BEING ELECTED TO DO,
AND THERE'S NO TAX RATE IMPACT. 
          GEO BONDS ARE FOR LARGE PROJECTS, CITYWIDE PROJECTS,
THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE A TAX TAX RATE IMPACT. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO IT WOULD HAVE FORCED ALMOST EVERYTHING A CITY DID TO DO
VOTES AND E LIMINATE THE ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING MORE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS, BUT UNIQUELY ON THE CALCULATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR CITY, THE 20% WOULD HAVE IMPACTED YOU ON YOUR DEBT SERVICE. 
          WE COULD ACTUALLY FUND THE PROGRAM WE HAVE HERE WITHIN THAT WITHIN THAT LIMITATION ON THE
ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO DEVELOPERS? HOW HOW WOULD DEVELOPERS NAVIGATE? I'M GLAD YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS ARE EXEMPT FROM
MANY OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED, AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS,
AS CITIES HAVE, SAID. 
          LIMITED RESTRICTIONS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO. THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL ADDITIONS DONE TO WHAT
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS CAN DO. 
          UNFORTUNATELY. 
          I THINK THAT THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE SEVEN. 
          YOU WANT TO TALK, CHIEF? COME ON. CHIEF. 
          DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION ON FINANCIAL FINANCING PLAN FOR 2025. 
          [K7. 2025-141 Discussion and Presentation on Financing Plan for 2025 Capital Improvement Program (CIP), presented by Jim Sabonis.]
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PRESENTED BY JIM SABONIS. 
          MAYOR, COUNCILMEM BERS, JIM SABONIS AGAIN YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR,
AND FINALLY A PRESENTATION I REALLY LIKE GIVING BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT YOUR CITY AND FUNDING THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE,
OUR COMMITMENTS FOR DEVELOPERS, BUT THIS IS AN EXCITING PROGRAM. 
          I WANT TO THANK THE MICHAEL KELLY AND THEIR STAFFS. 
          A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS,
THIS PLAN, AND I WANT TO SAY UP FRONT THAT THIS PLAN PROPOSES NO INCREASE TO YOUR CURRENT TAX RATE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO GET THAT OUT UP FRONT. 
          THE CITY BEFORE I GO INTO ANYTHING THE CITY IS,
IS IN THE STRONGEST FINANCIAL CONDITION IT'S EVER BEEN. 
          YOU KNOW, DURING THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE RATING PROCESS,
WE GOT UPGRADED TO DOUBLE A+ BY FITCH, AND WE HAVE A DOUBLE A WITH STANDARD POOR'S,
AND OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL BALANCE SHEET AND INCOME STATEMENTS ARE STRONGER THAN WE ACTUALLY APPROACHED THEM. SO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE? THERE'S TWO ISSUES THAT WOULD BE FUNDED SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION TO FUND A PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS,
THE VOTED BONDS THAT FOR PARKS AND LIBRARY IMPROVEMENTS. THE CREDIT PLEDGE WE GIVE THEM AS A COMBINATION. 
          IT'S CALLED THE TEXAS DOUBLE BARREL PLEDGE, A COMBINATION OF AD VALOREM TAXES AND NET
REVENUES OF THE UTILITY SYSTEMS THAT ARE LIMITED TO $1 A DOLLAR AMOUNT NO MORE THAN 3 OR $5000 IN TOTAL OVER THE LIFE OF THE ISSUE. 
          THESE WILL BE PAID BACK BY A LEVY OF THE AD VALOREM TAX LEVY. 
          TAX EXEMPT. WE HAVE CURRENTLY A AA S&P RATING AND A AA PLUS FROM FITCH. 
          WE EXPECT CONFIRMATION, AND WHEN WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE LAST RATING PROCESS,
WE ISSUED CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION IN 2024. 
          WE ACTUALLY INDICATED THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS,
WE'D BE DOING THE FULL PARK BOND PROGRAM, AND THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. SO IT WAS CLEARLY INDICATED TO THE BONDHOLDERS THAT
WE WERE UP. 
          WE HAD THOSE RATINGS AND WE EXPECTED TO CONTINUALLY FUND OUR GROWTH. 
          WE USED FOR OUR MODELING PURPOSES CURRENT INTEREST RATES PLUS 25 BASIS POINTS. 
          IT'S BEEN A PRETTY JUMPY MARKET WITH WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IN OUR NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL
ECONOMY. 
          THESE ARE STANDARD 25 YEAR BONDS WITH A TEN YEAR CALL PROCESS. 
          THERE'S A NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT DIRECTS THE SECRETARY
TO PUBLISH AND NOT TO EXCEED DOLLAR AMOUNT TO INDICATE WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE THAT ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED, WHAT HOW THEY WOULD BE PAID BACK FOR BY THE COMBINATION OF AD VALOREM
TAX AND REVENUES OF OUR UTILITY SYSTEM AND THE DATE THAT WE INTEND TO AUTHORIZE IT, THE PUBLICATION WILL INDICATE THAT IT'LL BE AT YOUR COUNCIL MEETING ON JULY 14TH BUT WILL
YOU AUTHORIZE IT? 
          [02:30:05]
WE MAY DELAY PRICING. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE CERTIFIED IN THE STATE OF
TEXAS ON JULY 25TH, AND THIS YEAR, THERE'S BEEN A VERY ACTIVE PROTEST,
AND WE'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OUR VALUES ARE SO WE CAN STRUCTURE THE DEBT. 
          SO WE ANTICIPATE DOING A COMPETITIVE SALE SLIGHTLY AFTER THAT,
AND PROBABLY THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST IN WHICH WE'LL CLOSE THESE BONDS AFTER IF YOU APPROVE, AFTER SUBMITTED TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL BEFORE THE END OF AUGUST. 
          SO NOW THE BIG REVEAL, THE NUMBERS. WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT FUND OF 25 MILLION FOR THE
CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION. 
          $55,050,000 FOR FOR THE GENERAL AVIATION GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. 
          RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF INTEREST RATES AND THE NATURE OF HOW BIDDERS ARE BIDDING ON BONDS,
THEY'RE BIDDING A PREMIUM. 
          SO WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SELL LESS PAR AMOUNT THAN WE ACTUALLY SELL PROCEEDS BECAUSE
IT BENEFITS THE BOND PURCHASERS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE SET UP A BID PROCESS WITH FLEXIBILITY WHERE THEY CAN BID
PAR BONDS OR DISCOUNT BONDS OR PREMIUM BONDS, AND OUR GOAL IS TO GENERATE $25 MILLION FROM THE CO'S,
$55 MILLION FROM GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. 
          WHATEVER STRUCTURE WORKS FOR THEM WITH THE LOWEST PRINCIPAL INTEREST FOR US WITHIN OUR
AMORTIZATION THAT WE WANT, AND THE REASON THAT THEY DO PREMIUM BONDS NOW IS THERE IS EXPECTATIONS THAT INTEREST RATES
WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP AND IN FUND MARK TO MARKET ACCOUNTING IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST RATE MOVEMENT OF 25 BASIS POINTS AND YOUR INTEREST RATE
IS 5%, YOUR MARK TO MARKET IS LESS THAN IF YOU HAD A 4% BOND AND YOU HAD A 25 BASIS POINTS,
JUST A BIGGER PORTION OF THE INTEREST RATE MOVEMENT RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE STRUCTURES THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER FOR THESE,
THE CERTIFICATES WILL HAVE AN ALL INTEREST COST ABOUT 4.81%, THE BONDS ABOUT 4.91%. AS I INDICATED, WE'RE BUFFERING BY ABOUT 25 BASIS POINTS AS WE SOLD
THE BONDS. 
          THE TOTAL PRINCIPAL INTEREST WILL BE ABOUT $152 MILLION ON THESE,
AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 6 MILLION, BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH THIS. WE'VE DONE A MULTI YEAR
FINANCIAL FORECAST. 
          THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU INITIALLY, I BELIEVE,
DURING A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT SINCE KELLY HAS COME ABOARD, WE REVISED OR SHOULD I SAY HONED, AND WE BELIEVE IT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE SCENARIO THAT
WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY INCREASE IN YOUR CURRENT I&S TAX RATE. 
          THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SLIDES THAT I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR CITY ABOUT,
BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF YOUR CITY OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS AND ESPECIALLY THE LAST FIVE YEARS,
AND THERE'S NO CITY I KNOW IN, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT I WORK WITH AND THROUGH THE NATIONAL COMMUNITIES I WORK WITH. THAT'S HAD THE SUCCESS THAT YOU HAVE SINCE THE LAST FIVE
YEARS ALONE. 
          MAYOR, YOUR TAX RATE, YOUR AD VALOREM TAX RATE HAS GONE DOWN FROM $0.67 TO $0.44,
$0.23, AND YOU'VE DONE IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. YOU'VE ACTUALLY REDUCED WHAT YOU'VE ALLOCATED FOR DEBT SERVICE FROM 28.2
TO JUST 18.3 CENTS, WHICH IS A DECREASE OF OVER $0.09,
AND AN OPERATION, YOU BECOME MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. 
          YOU'VE ACTUALLY DECREASED FROM ABOUT 39.4 CENTS TO ABOUT 25.6 CENTS. 
          SO YOU KNOW, THE CITY AS IT'S GROWN, IT'S UNIQUE,
AND I CONGRATULATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AS COUNCIL AND THE MANAGEMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE. YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE QUALITY SERVICES
AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF SERVICES OVER THIS COURSE OF TIME WHILE DROPPING YOUR TAX RATE BY A THIRD. IT'S A TREMENDOUS ACCOMPLISHMENT. 
          THE KEY THING THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON IS WHAT YOUR I&S TAX RATE IS. 
          AGAIN, CURRENTLY YOU'RE LEVYING 18.36 CENTS,
AND FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME, WE DO NOT EXPECT ANY IMPACT ON IT. 
          THE NEXT PAGE I DON'T THIS ACTUALLY IS A TABLE THAT JUST,
I THINK, TELLS PEOPLE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE BEHIND ALL THE ARTICLES ABOUT BEING THE FASTEST GROWING COMMUNITY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY,
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE GROWN TO BE OVER 4.2 BILLION OF TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE. LAST THE UPCOMING YEAR, OUR PRELIMINARY NUMBERS SHOW THAT WE'VE GROWN 437 MILLION
TO THAT NUMBER AND AT ABOUT 11.5% OVER WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST YEAR NOW IT'S FASCINATING. 
          IT'S AS WE'VE COME BIGGER, WE'VE STILL GROWN AT LARGE AGGREGATE NUMBERS,
BUT IT'S SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AND IT'S JUST FASCINATING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE GROWTH STATISTICS,
BUT THE REASON I PUT THIS HERE IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TEN YEAR AVERAGE OF 28.4%, 
          [02:35:10]
OUR FIVE YEAR AVERAGE OF 30, 35 I MEAN, OUR THREE YEAR AVERAGE OF 35,
WE SPENT SOME TIME WITH KELLY. 
          WHAT ARE WE COMFORTABLE OF LOOKING FORWARD? WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME PROJECTIONS ON LOTS AND
LOT ABSORPTION. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY EXCEEDED THEM EVERY TIME WE'VE PUT THEM TOGETHER BEFORE WITH YOUR STAFF,
BUT ON THE NEXT PAGE IS KIND OF WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ARE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW, AND SO AS I INDICATED, WE GREW 629,000,025. WE GREW 437 MILLION IN THE CURRENT YEAR, AND SO THIS IS A PROJECTION WE'RE USING GOING FORWARD. 
          WE'RE REDUCING THE PERCENTAGE OF GROWTH EXPECTING NOT NOT THAT WE FULLY EXPECT THIS,
BUT TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN WHAT WE THINK WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE GROWTH. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NUMBER OF BUILDING PERMITS AND THE VALUE PERMIT THAT WE HAVE AN ANNUAL
VALUE INCREASE OVERALL THAT'S TAKING PLACE, BUT WHEN IT LOOKS AT YOUR HISTORICAL GROWTH,
THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT'S TAKING PLACE PREVIOUSLY, AND WITH THAT, WE ACTUALLY DID SOME CALCULATIONS,
AND SO WE'VE TAKEN OUR FREEZE ADJUSTED TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUES THAT WE CALCULATED ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE. 
          WE TOOK OUR CURRENT TAX RATE, AND WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO PAY DEBT SERVICE
AND IN THE FINAL SHEET THIS IS THE IMPORTANT ONE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT SECOND COLUMN, WE STAY CONSISTENT AT 18.3 6 CENTS. 
          WE HAVE OUR VALUE GROWTH THAT WE TAKE PLACE AND WE REALLY STOP GROWING. 
          WE JUST DID A FORECAST OUT TO 2032. WE'VE GOT OUR EXISTING DEBT IN THE FOURTH COLUMN FROM
THE LEFT, AND THEN WE ADDED THE DEBT SERVICE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND THE PARKS AND
LIBRARY. 
          RIGHT NOW YOUR IS DEBT SERVICE FUND, YOU HAVE EXCESS AVAILABLE OF $4 MILLION,
WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO USE ABOUT A MILLION, SIX OF THAT BASED ON THIS FORECAST TO MANAGE OUR TAX
RATE UNTIL WE GROW INTO IT AND ULTIMATELY WE'LL BE ABLE TO PAY, WE'LL ACTUALLY INCREASE TILL WE GET TO ABOUT 8 MILLION,
JUST UNDER $600,000, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PAY OUR DEBT SERVICE IN ON THE FAR RIGHT SHOWS THE ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE AT THAT. THE I&S TAX RATE OF 18.36 CENTS WOULD GENERATE
AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          KIND OF THINKING ABOUT IF WE DID THIS, CAN WE AFFORD IT? BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, CAN WE ISSUE ADDITIONAL DEBT IN THE FUTURE? AND BASED ON THESE
CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS THE CASH FLOW ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT WOULD BE GENERATED AT THAT TAX RATE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT. IN SUMMARY THE CITY IS IN THE STRONGEST
FINANCIAL CONDITION. 
          WE'VE GOT A PROFORMA PLAN THAT WE BELIEVE IS CONSERVATIVE,
BASED ON HISTORICAL AND CURRENT ABSORPTION OF HOMES AND THE GOAL IS TO ISSUE THE 25 MILLION FUNDING FOR THE CERTIFICATES AND THE 55 FOR THE GO
BONDS TO HAVE NO IMPACT ON TAX RATE. 
          YOU'RE FORTUNATE THAT YOU HAVE $4 MILLION IN EXCESS IN THIS AND THAT YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE
OVER 100% COLLECTION OF ANNUAL BASIS. WE'VE ALSO USED THE 25 BASIS POINTS OF,
OF INTEREST RATE TO GIVE YOU A FEEL THAT 25 BASIS POINTS, IF WE RAN IT AT ACTUALLY MARKET RATES, IT'S OVER ALMOST $3 MILLION OF EXTRA DEBT SERVICE
THAT WE'D BE DOWN IF WE WERE AT CURRENT MARKET RATES. 
          SO WE BELIEVE IT'S A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTION,
AND IN SOME WAYS, FINANCIAL ADVISOR, AGAIN, KELLY SCRUBBED THEIR NUMBERS AND EVEN GOT MORE FINE TUNED OVER THE LAST WEEK,
AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ACHIEVE, AND IF WE'D COME FORWARD DURING THE SALE DATE WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL AND
PUT THIS IN PLACE, RESULTING IN FUNDING WITHOUT A TAX RATE IMPACT TO THE CITIZENS. 
          SO THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THERE'S NOT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM,
BUT I'LL ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS. 
          MY FIRST QUESTION IS THE BOND IN QUESTION FOR PARKS AND LIBRARY,
I GUESS IS WHAT IT IS THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE ONE WE ALREADY HAVE, OR IS THIS A NEW ONE THAT'S BEING PUT IN PLACE? THIS IS APPROXIMATELY HALF OF YOUR CURRENT AUTHORIZATION THAT WAS VOTED. SO FROM THE
CURRENT BOND THAT WE'VE PUT OUT THERE, WE HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY OF THE BONDS THAT WERE VOTED IN NOVEMBER 23RD. 
          THIS WOULD BE ABOUT HALF OF THAT ISSUANCE. SO IT'S A LITTLE SCARY BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT
IT IN THE PRINCIPAL AND THE INTEREST ARE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME NUMBER,
AND . 
          [02:40:07]
THAT'S A LOT, AND THAT'S JUST FROM ONE ISSUANCE,
AND WE HAVE ALL THE OTHER ONES COMING. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF DEBT. A LOT OF INTEREST WE'RE PAYING. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO PAY IT QUICKER? DO ANYTHING TO NOT HAVE THAT MUCH INTEREST COMING OUT OF OUR TAX. 
          LIKE FOR TAXPAYERS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP REDUCE THAT INTEREST? WELL, THE THIS REFLECTS THE STRUCTURE THAT WE PROPOSED ON THE INITIAL ANALYSIS WE DID FOR
THE BOND PROGRAM WAS AUTHORIZED, AND THE THOUGHT BEING THAT,
THAT AS YOU CAN SEE THE OUTER YEARS, WE GENERATE EXCESS CASH FLOW AT THE 13.36. AGAIN,
WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH DIFFERENT STRUCTURES, YEARS IN THE OUTER YEARS AND LOOK TO ABSORB IT. 
          BASED ON ON THIS, BUT THE THOUGHT BEING THAT WE HAVE TO LEAVE IN PLACE CAPACITY FOR YOUR
FUND, PHASE TWO OF YOUR PARK BOND PROGRAM AND OTHER ONGOING NEEDS THAT MIGHT BE FUNDED WITH
CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION OR OTHER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ISSUES, AND SO WE CAN PROVIDE SOME ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES AND WORK WITH STRUCTURES WITH, WITH KELLY. BUT THE THOUGHT HERE WAS THAT THIS WAS KIND OF A,
A BALANCING. 
          WE'VE RUN 20 YEARS. WE'VE WON 30 YEARS TO SEE IF IT WHAT WOULD WOULD DO,
AND THE THOUGHT WAS LANDING ON A 25 YEAR KIND OF A BALANCE OF PAYING IT OFF AND BEING ABLE TO STAY AT THE 18.3 CENTS,
BUT ANTICIPATING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND THINGS IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO I SEE IN LIKE THE FIRST YEAR, ZERO PRINCIPAL,
ZERO INTEREST AND SUCH, AND I CAN SEE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE PUBLIC SAFETY. THEY'RE JUST DOING ONE THEIR FIRST YEAR OF NO PAYMENT,
AND THEN THERE'S THE INTEREST AND WHATNOT, BUT THE PARKS AND LIBRARY, THAT'S WHAT, FIVE YEARS WHERE THEY'RE NOT PAYING. 
          LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THAT PRINCIPAL. 
          WELL, W E'RE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING TOWARDS THAT FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          WELL, I FEEL LIKE THE OTHER ONE SEEMS LIKE A BETTER PLAN. IT'S A FASCINATING QUESTION YOU
ASK, AND LET ME TALK ABOUT HOW WE DO OUR ANALYSIS AND, AND SO THE WHAT, WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT WHEN WE FUND THIS,
WE, WE LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL SOURCE AND USES, WE FUND A BOND ISSUE, AND I KNOW HOW MY TEAM HAS WORKED ON THIS. 
          SO THEY'LL FUND THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, AND THEN THEY LAYERED THE PARKS OVER FACILITY
CONSIDERING EXISTING DEBT. 
          SO THE REAL KEY IS THAT BASED ON OUR ASSUMPTIONS RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN PAY 230,000 OF
PRINCIPAL ON THE TOTAL TWO ISSUES PLUS THE INTEREST AND MAINTAIN OUR TAX RATE. 
          SO WHETHER WE DO 120,000 PRINCIPAL OR THE OTHER. 
          IT'S A PETER PAUL SITUATION, IF YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN. 
          BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET IS A TOTAL DEBT SERVICE,
AND , AND I CAN GO BACK AND REALLOCATE THESE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS WE DID THIS ANALYSIS BASED ON A WHOLE AND SPLIT THIS
OUT, BUT BUT THE STRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY THOSE KEY FIRST YEARS WAS DONE BASED ON WHAT THE TOTAL
PRINCIPAL INTEREST PAYMENT OF THE COMBINED DEBT WAS VERSUS THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT BUT GOING FORWARD, WE'LL WE CAN REALLOCATE THAT. 
          SO THEY BOTH AMORTIZE EQUALLY UPFRONT. I MEAN YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE ANSWERING MY QUESTION. 
          I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE IT SHOWED US STARTING TO PAY FOR ONE AND NOT THE OTHER,
AND THAT DOES IMPACT LIKE HOW MUCH INTEREST YOU HAVE ON IT, BUT THAT I MEAN, THAT DOES MAKE SENSE. YOU'RE JUST SEPARATING IT OUT. THAT MADE SENSE,
AND YOU KNOW, THAT TO ME IS MY ARTISTIC ASPECT OF PRESENTING THESE. 
          THE NUMBERS WILL STAY THE SAME, BUT WE'LL JUST ACTUALLY SHOW THEM EQUALLY. 
          I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT EARLIER. YOU KNOW,
AND ONE THING, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF TALKING AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY EASY TO PREPAY DEBT VERSUS EXTENDING IT,
AND IF THERE WAS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE GOING FORWARD, BUT OUR THOUGHT WAS, AGAIN, 25 YEARS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ADD CAPACITY SO
THAT IN THEORY YOU KNOW, IN TWO YEARS, EVEN UNDER THIS CONSERVATIVE SCENARIO,
WE'D HAVE A MILLION, 84,000 TO DO A DEBT ISSUE AT THAT TIME. 
          AT THIS TAX RATE AND THEN JUMPS, YOU CAN SEE TO NEXT YEAR TO 2.6,
ANOTHER 1.6 MILLION, BUT BUT CLEARLY WE'LL WORK WITH KELLY IF TO DO SOME ALTERNATIVE SCENARIOS T HAT WE HAVE. 
          I HAD A QUESTION, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO PAGE SIX FOR ME WHERE IT SHOWS THE BUILDING
PERMITS. 
          [02:45:07]
ALL RIGHT. SO IT HAS THE NUMBER OF BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED UP UNTIL 2031,
OR THESE ARBITRARY NUMBERS OR ACTUAL SUBMITTED. 
          THIS WAS AN ANALYSIS PREPARED SUBMITTED BY YOUR STAFF LAST YEAR. 
          THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THE PROJECTS AT THAT TIME AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT THEY
KNEW WERE IN PLACE AND ACTUALLY BUILDING, ACTUALLY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UPDATING, BUT I THINK THE UPDATE WOULD ACTUALLY SHOW HIGHER
PERMITS AND PROBABLY HIGHER ABSORPTION, BUT THIS WAS DONE BY THE STAFF IN MAY OF 2024. 
          OKAY, AND THIS IS JUST A BALLPARK FORECAST FOR THOSE NUMBERS. 
          SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE COME OUT OF THE MORATORIUM AND THOSE NUMBERS CHANGE,
DOES THIS PLAN DOES IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY LEVEL SET THIS PLAN. 
          RIGHT. WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MORATORIUM IS THAT MORATORIUM IS NEW PROJECTS OR NEW
DEVELOPMENTS, NOT EXISTING PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED UNDER CONSTRUCTION,
AND THIS REPRESENTED, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND I'M VERY CERTAIN OF THIS, PROJECTS THAT WERE PERMITTED AND MOVING FORWARD AT THE TIME
THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE, ANTICIPATE NO NEW PROJECTS. GOTCHA. SO IF, SAY,
FOR INSTANCE, 2028, WE'RE OUT OF THE MORATORIUM AND THE PERMIT GOES FROM 750 TO 13 WITH THIS ANALYSIS CHANGE, WE DO THIS ANALYSIS ANNUALLY,
THOUGH, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY, AND MY THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT TWO WAYS THAT I WOULD LOOK AT THIS ONE IS IF
THAT DID TAKE PLACE YOU'D HAVE EITHER FUTURE, MORE CAPACITY TO FUND YOUR PROGRAM AND TO FUND IT EARLIER OR TO
BE ABLE TO REDUCE YOUR TAX RATE. 
          ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD TAKE PLACE, AND WE CAN HELP HER GET HER BOND RATING. 
          I MEAN THEIR ARE DEBT SERVICE NOW THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THANK YOU. JIM. OKAY. ON THESE BUILDING PERMITS THING. 
          ARE THESE BUILDING PERMITS INCLUDING THESE INCLUDE DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE LIKE 1300 IN 2026
THAT 1300 IS LIKE ONE SINGLE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE APPROVING OF HOUSES,
BUT IT'S 1300 PER YEAR DURING THAT FISCAL YEAR THAT WOULD. 
          SO JUST IN ONE ANNUAL YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD 1300 HOMES. 
          WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE LIKE DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING THAT A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT HAS 1300 HOMES. 
          AGAIN, I BELIEVE IT'S CONSERVATIVE. OKAY. VERY,
VERY HEAVILY CONSERVATIVE, BUT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE ON. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK. THANK YOU. THIS WILL TAKE US TO K8. 
          CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-05-
27-R01. 
          [K8. 2025-05-27-R01 Consider approving Resolution No. 2025-05-27-R01, directing publication of notice of intention to issue combination tax and revenue certificates of obligation; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
DIRECTING THE PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE
CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. 
          PRESENTED BY JEFF. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE ISSUANCE PROCESS. 
          THE JIM JUST DESCRIBED FOR THE OPERATIONS FACILITY THIS LISTS WHAT OUR PROJECTS ARE GOING
TO BE. 
          SO THIS IS PUTTING THE PUBLIC ON NOTICE THAT THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE ARE GOING TO BUILD
WITH THAT 25 MILLION. 
          ALREADY COORDINATED WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. 
          COS HAVE A VERY PROCEDURAL PROCESS. IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT,
THE NOTICE WILL RUN TWICE. 
          THE FIRST NOTICE HAS TO BE 45 DAYS BEFORE COUNCIL TAKES ACTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE TO
AUTHORIZE AND SELL THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT 45 DAYS. IT ALSO WILL BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE
FOR A 45 DAY PERIOD. 
          ALSO YOU HEARD KELLY MENTION THE BLACKOUT PROVISION ON COS YOU COULDN'T ISSUE COS FOR A
FIVE YEAR PERIOD IF AN ELECTION WAS HELD AND VOTERS DISAPPROVED IT. SO WE ALREADY HAVE A BLACKOUT PERIOD,
WHICH IS THREE YEARS. 
          SO THAT BILL WOULD HAVE EXTENDED IT TO FIVE,
BUT OBVIOUSLY WE MAKE SURE THE CITY IS IN COMPLIANCE. 
          WE'RE NOT SELLING THESE COS FOR ANY PURPOSE FOR WHICH VOTERS HAVE PREVIOUSLY TOLD YOU
WITHIN THREE YEARS THAT YOU CANNOT DO SO. 
          THE NOTICE THAT WILL BE PUBLISHED AND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          I WON'T READ ALL THAT. THIS IS JUST RECITING THE STATUTE,
AND THE NOTICE IS COMPLIANT WITH ALL OF THESE PROVISIONS SIMPLY TO GIVE THE NOTICE AN IDEA OF OF THE CO ISSUANCE PROCESS. 
          WHAT'S GOING TO BE SOLD? THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT,
MAXIMUM MATURITY. 
          [02:50:01]
THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE RESOLUTION. IT DOES KICK OFF THE PROCESS. 
          SO THAT IS REALLY IT. OBVIOUSLY THOSE NOTICES WILL RUN ASSUMING YOU ALL APPROVE THIS,
AND WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE Y'ALL IN JULY. 
          THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, CORRECT? I'M SORRY. THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. 
          YES, SIR. I MOTION TO APPROVE. I SECOND. 
          MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THIS TAKES US TO K9 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE SELECTION
OF AN ALTERNATE 
          [K9. 2025-139 Discuss and consider approving the selection of an alternate from the City Council to serve on the North Central Texas Council of Governments (NCTCOG) Emergency Preparedness Planning Council (EPPC); and take appropriate action.]
FORM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO SERVE ON THE NORTH TEXAS NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF
GOVERNMENTS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLANNING COUNCIL, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING,
MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M HERE TO FACILITATE A DISCUSSION TO SELECT AN ALTERNATE AS
REQUIRED PER THE BYLAWS FOR THE COMMITTEE THAT COUNCILMEM BER DEFFIBAUGH HAS A SEAT WITH, WITH THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLANNING PROGRAM A PROGRAM OR A COMPONENT OF
THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS ON GOVERNMENT. 
          SO WHOEVER YOU SELECT TONIGHT, I'LL FACILITATE GETTING THE APPLICATION PROGRAM SUBMITTED
AND FILLED OUT AND SENT IT TO THE BOARD. 
          I KNOW COUNCILMEM BER DEFFIBAUGH IS OBVIOUSLY NOT HERE,
BUT I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. 
          I WOULDN'T MIND BEING ON THAT BOARD, BUT. WOULD YOU GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE
RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE SELECTED PERSON WOULD BE PLEASED? SO AS FAR AS THE DAY TO DAY AND END TO END REQUIREMENTS
FROM THAT, I COULD NOT SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A BOARD THAT'S JUST RESERVED FOR ELECTED
OFFICIALS OF GOVERNMENT BUT THIS POSITION IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE BYLAWS, AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND ALL THE MEETINGS AND VOTE IN HIS ABSENCE,
BUT AS FAR AS THE AGENDA ITEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, I JUST CANNOT SPEAK TO THOSE. SO THE MEETINGS HELD. 
          EXCUSE ME. HOW OFTEN ARE MEETINGS HELD? I BELIEVE THEY'RE ONCE A QUARTER. 
          I MEAN, I READ THROUGH THIS WHEN WE GOT THE EMAIL ABOUT IT,
LIKE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. 
          IT'S REALLY COOL. IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION,
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, LIKE, ARE WE MAKING NOMINATIONS RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I WOULD NOMINATE OUR MAYOR FOR THIS,
BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE VERY IDEAL FOR US TO HAVE OUR MAYOR A PART OF THIS. 
          I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUR PRO TEM RIGHT NOW,
BUT IF HE'S NOT THERE, IT WOULD BE VERY IDEAL FOR THE MAYOR TO BE THE ONE WHO'S STEPPING IN? WITH. I MEAN, THIS IS AN AMAZING ORGANIZATION. 
          SO I WOULD MOTION FOR THE MAYOR TO BE THE SECOND PERSON. 
          OH, SORRY YOU DIDN'T CALL FOR THE MOTION YET. I APOLOGIZE. 
          IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOTION FOR MAYOR ESCOBAR TO BE
THE SECOND. 
          SECOND. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS WILL TAKE US TO K TEN PRESENTATION DISCUSSION REGARDING
THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND HOUSEKEEPING SERVICES FOR CITY HALL. 
          [K10. 2025-137 Presentation and discussion regarding the environmental and housekeeping services for City Hall; presented by Assistant Director of Public Works Preston Jones.]
PRESENTED BY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS PRESTON JONES. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. TOMMY MAPP, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. 
          I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PREFACE THIS A LITTLE BIT. WE TOOK OVER FACILITIES MAINTENANCE
JUST VERY RECENTLY PREVIOUSLY WAS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THIS PROCESS WAS ALREADY UNDERWAY. SO I HANDED THIS TO PRESTON. 
          HE PICKED IT UP, RAN WITH IT, AND HAS SOME GREAT INFORMATION FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER. 
          MAYOR, COUNCIL. PRESTON JONES, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR ADVICE AND GUIDANCE. 
          WE'RE WANTING TO AS A NEW BUDGET YEAR APPROACHES,
LOOK TO TRANSFER OUR CLEANING SERVICES OVER TO ANOTHER COMPANY. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SPENDING $129,000 A YEAR, AND WE FEEL THAT OUR MONEY CAN BE BETTER SPENT
WITH GETTING SOME MORE SERVICES FOR THE MONIES THAT WE ARE SPENDING. 
          WE CURRENTLY ARE USING NORTH TEXAS INSTALLATION SERVICES,
LLC AT THAT $129,000 PRICE TAG. 
          AT THIS MOMENT, EVERY WEEK WE HAVE FACILITIES MANAGER THAT'S HAVING TO SEND THEM CONSTANT
EMAILS AND REMINDERS OF THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED, AND WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET A MORE, MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK,
QUITE FRANKLY. 
          CLOVER STATE DYNAMICS. ALL THESE COMPANIES, THEY DO THE SAME OR SIMILAR SERVICES,
JUST DIFFERENT TIMELINES AS FAR AS WEEKLY SERVICES, MONTHLY SERVICES, ETC.. SO SOME OF THEIR DAILY TASKS INCLUDE SWEEPING,
TAKING OUT THE TRASH, 
          [02:55:05]
THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DO NOT DO IS THEY DO NOT DO WINDOW
CLEANINGS, EXTERIOR WINDOW CLEANINGS, EXCEPT FOR ADDITIONAL CHARGES. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE CURRENTLY SPEND $5,000 EVERY TIME WE WANT ADDITIONAL WINDOW CLEANING
SERVICES. 
          THEIR PRICE TAG IS 130,000. THEY ARE OUR LOWER BID,
BUT WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THEIR SERVICES WILL ADEQUATELY MEET OUR NEEDS. 
          WHENEVER THERE ARE YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE MORE OF A PRICE TAG WITH THEM,
BUT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT. 
          ONE OTHER COMPANY IS GOING TO OFFER FAR MORE SERVICES. 
          FRESH LOCAL CLEANING. THEY DO EXTERIOR WINDOW CLEANING,
INCLUDING THEIR BID TWICE A YEAR. 
          THEY ARE CURRENTLY $8,500 MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT WE SPEND AT THE CURRENT AT THE MOMENT,
BUT WE'RE AUTOMATICALLY SAVING, YOU KNOW, $2,500 A YEAR IF WE GO WITH THEM BASED COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT CONTRACT. 
          ON TOP OF THAT, THEY OFFER A FIVE DAY A WEEK,
EIGHT HOUR A DAY. 
          PORTER, WHAT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS THAT'LL FREE UP OUR FACILITIES MAINTENANCE
TECHNICIANS TO DO OTHER TASKS SUCH AS REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE, ETC., INSTEAD OF JUST STOCKING CLEANING SUPPLIES AND CLEANING UP MESSES. SO
WE'LL BE GAINING A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE FOR THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, $7,500 DIFFERENCE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. THEY ARE A ONE YEAR CONTRACT,
BUT THERE IS NO CANCELLATION FEE. 
          SO ANY ANY ISSUE WE BRING TO THEM, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO RECTIFY. 
          IF IT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED AND THEY DON'T RECTIFY IT,
WE CAN CANCEL IMMEDIATELY. 
          NO TWO WEEK NOTICE OR ANYTHING REQUIRED. OTHER THAN THAT,
WE DO. 
          THEY DO REQUIRE A TWO WEEK NOTICE. JUST THAT WAY,
THEY CAN KIND OF START GATHERING THEIR THINGS AND GET OUT. 
          NEXT WILL BE OUR HIGH BID TO PRESTIGE JANITORIAL SERVICES. 
          THE BID TOTALS $145,000 A YEAR, BUT THEY THEY INCLUDE A PORTER. 
          AS FAR AS IF WE WANTED TO PAY, IT'D BE 4000. AN ADDITIONAL $4,157 A MONTH. 
          THEY DO NOT BUFF FLOORS. THAT WAS A BIG THING THAT THE FRESH LOCAL CLEANING DID PROVIDE. 
          THEY DO FLOOR BUFFING ONCE A MONTH AT NO EXTRA CHARGE. 
          THEY WOULD CHARGE US AN EXTRA $649 A MONTH TO DO. 
          THOSE FLOORS, AS WELL AS EXTERIOR WINDOW CLEANING,
IS AN ADDITIONAL $2,300 PER EVENT. 
          AGAIN, FRESH LOCAL, WHICH IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          STAFF UP THERE IS INCLUDED IN THE PRICE. AGAIN. 
          THEY HAVE A ONE YEAR LOCKED IN RATE, SO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT SIMILAR TO EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          THERE ARE NO CANCELLATION FEES AND WE NEEDED TO CANCEL AT ANY POINT IN TIME,
BUT THEY TRY TO KEEP THE PRICE FOR US LOCKED IN FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE YEAR TO YEAR. ALL THREE COMPANIES ARE WILLING TO BECOME
CJIS CERTIFIED, WHICH IS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SERVICES. 
          THAT WAY, WHENEVER THEY'RE CONDUCTING CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE AT PD,
THEY ARE WITHIN OUR COMPLIANCE. 
          AT THIS POINT, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR THIS TIME,
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I APOLOGIZE. 
          YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE SECOND SECOND SURGE. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S FOR 136,000, I BELIEVE. 
          YES, SIR. THAT'S THE 36,000 OR $136,500. SO IT'S $7,500 MORE THAN WE CURRENTLY ARE PAYING, AND WE GET A FULL TIME STAFF, A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE THAT'S EIGHT HOURS A DAY,
FIVE DAYS A WEEK. 
          WINDOW CLEANING. RIGHT, AND TWO EXTRA WINDOW CLEANINGS PER YEAR. 
          ALL INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT. YEAH. YOU CAN'T. 
          I AGREE THAT FRESH LOCAL CLEANING LLC SEEMS TO BE THE BETTER COMPANY. 
          DID YOU ALSO SAY THAT IT'S IF WE CANCELED WITH THEM,
THERE WOULD BE NO CANCELLATION FEES? CORRECT. ALL THREE COMPANIES WE WERE LOOKING AT,
THEY DO NOT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES. 
          AS LONG AS WE COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY WITH THEM WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND
WHY WE WANT TO CANCEL. 
          OKAY. I WOULD RECOMMEND THEM. WE CAN'T HIRE SOMEONE FOR $7,500 TO WORK IN A YEAR. EXACTLY. SO I REALLY LIKE THAT,
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I GOT TO TOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT. 
          SEE THE THINGS YOU GUYS HAVE TO TAKE ON. FREEING SOMEONE UP FOR YOU WOULD BE VERY,
VERY BENEFICIAL FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE TO FIND THESE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND,
AND REALLY LOOK INTO WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING AND GET US THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU. 
          THANK BOBBY. BOBBY, HE IS OUR FACILITIES MANAGER,
AND HE DID MOST OF THE LEGWORK ON THIS. 
          I PICKED UP AND RAN WITH IT, BUT HE WAS REALLY THE LEGWORK FOR ALL OF IT. 
          HE SAYS FIRST LOCAL CLEANING. ARE THEY, LIKE,
REALLY LOCAL? LIKE, ARE THEY BASED IN PRINCETON OR. 
          [03:00:03]
NO, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY BASED IN PRINCE. I BELIEVE THEY'RE OUT OF THE WYLIE AREA. 
          OKAY. ALL THESE THEY'RE THEY'RE SEMI-LOCAL. THEY'RE THEY'RE WITHIN THE SURROUNDING CATCHY
NAME. 
          RIGHT. IT GETS YOU. EXACTLY. YEAH. WE'RE LOCAL. 
          OKAY, BUT , NO. YEAH, I'M WITH YOU. I WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF
THEN. 
          I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THE LEGWORK, AND YOU WOULD KNOW THIS A LOT BETTER,
SO FOR SURE, FOR SURE, I WOULD I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FRESH LOCAL CLEANING, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION STAFF WANTS TO GO. ONE THING,
THINGS, THOUGH. 
          I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR QUALIFYING THESE BIDS AND MAKING
SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO THESE FINER DETAILS AND GETTING THE MOST SERVICE. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE STAFF HERE. SO THANK YOU FOR GETTING US ALL OF THIS INFORMATION
FOR ALL THREE OF THESE CONTRACTORS AT THIS LEVEL SO WE CAN MAKE THE BEST INFORMED DECISION. 
          SO GOOD JOB ON THIS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU. 
          I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I SEE THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF MICE,
BUT I DON'T SEE RATS. 
          DO THEY TAKE CARE OF RATS TOO? IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF MALLET THEY USE. 
          OKAY. I JUST HAD TO POINT IT OUT. SO I THINK THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WOULD BE TO GO WITH FRESH LOCAL CLEANING LLC. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. THIS WILL TAKE US TO K11. CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FOR ITEMS TO BE
PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND NOT FOR DISCUSSION ON THESE REQUESTS. 
          [K11. 2025-133 Consider approving a request for items to be placed on a future agenda and NOT for discussion of these requests.]
I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA THE THREE ORDINANCES THAT I EMAILED LAST WEEK. 
          I WOULD LIKE THAT TO GO ONTO THE NEXT AGENDA,
AND THESE ARE AMENDMENTS OR AMENDMENTS TO OUR SUBCONTRACTORS,
OUR LAND STUDY AND THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A PRESENTATION ON HOW AND WHAT GOES INTO THE ABILITY FOR COUNCILMEM BERS TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY. 
          I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED HERE AND THERE. 
          I WOULD LIKE A PRESENTATION ON THAT TO KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK OR HOW IT CAN WORK. 
          ONE, BECAUSE I'M GOING ON OUT OF THE COUNTRY FOR A WHILE,
AND TWO WITH SOME RECENT PERSONAL MEDICAL THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP, IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT I WILL REQUIRE FROM
TIME TO TIME. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE A PRESENTATION TO KNOW WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE. 
          ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO MORE, WE'LL MOVE TO THE REPORT AGENDA. 
          [L. REPORT AGENDA]
THE NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MONDAY,
JUNE 9TH, 2025 AT 6:30. 
          NEXT REGULAR CDC MEETING. TUESDAY, JUNE 3RD,
2025 AT 6 P.M.. 
          NEXT REGULAR EDC MEETING MONDAY, JUNE 2ND, 2025 AT 6 P.M.. 
          NEXT REGULAR PNC MEETING. MONDAY, JUNE 16TH,
2025 AT 6:30. 
          NEXT SPECIAL LIBRARY MEETING. TUESDAY, JUNE 12TH,
2025 AT 6:30. 
          AD HOC COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, MAY 28TH,
2025 AT 6:30. 
          HOME RULE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING THURSDAY,
JUNE 29TH, 2025 AT 6 P.M.. 
          AT THIS TIME, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN. I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR,
SAY AYE. 
          ANY NAYS? TIME IS 9:53.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.