[00:00:02] ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED. TODAY IS MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2005. [A. CALL TO ORDER-MAYOR] I'M SORRY 2025 I APOLOGIZE. THE TIME IS 5:33, AND THIS WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING. WE'LL START WITH MS. DAVID GRACE. HERE. MS. TODD IS NOT HERE. MR. WASHINGTON. HERE. SORRY. MR. JOHNSON. HERE. MR. GERFERS. HERE. MR DEFFIBAUGH. HERE, AND MR. LONG HERE. I APOLOGIZE. THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR WORK SESSION. [C. WORK SESSION AGENDA] ITEM C.1. DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL REGARDING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS PROPOSED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 5:34. MR. TODD HAS ARRIVED. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. I'M JUST GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT. WE ALSO HAVE TOMMY MAPP, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND CRAIG FISHER, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, HERE TO KIND OF ELABORATE ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNCIL. REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STATUS OF THEM AND REALLY GET SOME DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL KIND OF PRIORITIES. WHICH ONE OF THESE TO KIND OF REALLY START CHECKING THE BOXES OFF AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE IMPORTANCE FROM THE COUNCIL SO WE CAN SO THE STAFF CAN WORK AND STREAMLINE AND START GETTING SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES DONE AND COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR THE FUTURE. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO CRAIG. HE'S GOING TO START GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, WHICH EACH REQUEST. SO, CRAIG. THANK YOU. FRED. CRAIG FISHER DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO THE 1ST ITEM ON THE LIST AND IN THE MEMO WE OUTLINED 13 ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION. 1ST OF WHICH IS TO DRAFT AND AMEND A CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION ORDINANCE. SO HERE I'M JUST REALLY LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON WHAT'S WANTED FROM COUNCIL. THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS A CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT. ANY PERMIT THAT IS PULLED WE REQUIRE THAT THE CONTRACTOR BE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY. SO JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHAT IS WANTED HERE. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE FEEDBACK HERE WHILE WE'RE HERE TOGETHER. SO THAT'S 1 THAT I REWROTE AND SENT IN OUTLINING WHAT MY CONCERN IS. SURVEYORS AND ENGINEERS ARE 3RD PARTIES TO DEVELOPERS. THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO REGISTER LIKE OTHER CONTRACTORS. AND WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT IF A CONTRACTOR DOESN'T DO A QUALITY JOB, WE CAN BAN THEM FROM WORKING WITHIN OUR CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE REGISTERED. WE PULL THEIR REGISTRATION. WE CANNOT DO THAT FOR SURVEYORS OR ENGINEERS WHO ARE NOT PERFORMING TO THE STANDARDS OF OUR CITY. AND THAT HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH DEVELOPMENTS. SO I FEEL THAT WE NEED TO HAVE EITHER SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR THEM OR ADD THEM TO THE CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION. OKAY. APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. I'D LIKE TO LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT. I BELIEVE THE ENGINEERS, THEY DO NEED TO BE REGISTERED IN THE CITY. THE. HOWEVER I THINK FOR SURVEYORS BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE JUST ACTUALLY SURVEYING THE LAND TO MAKE SURE IT'S WITHIN THE BOUNDS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED OR NOT, BECAUSE IF YOU DO THAT, THAT MEANS THAT EVERY TIME SOMEONE IS GOING TO SELL THEIR HOME OR BUY A HOME AND A SURVEYOR HAS TO COME IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE YOU BUY THE HOME, THAT YOU KNOW THAT ALL HAVE TO BE REGISTERED. I DON'T I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A NECESSARY THING, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING OFF OF PLATS AND THINGS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY TO, TO FIND THOSE PARTICULAR MARKERS. AND I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO BE REGISTERED, BUT THE ENGINEERS DEFINITELY. WE DO REQUIRE SURVEYORS BE LICENSED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. ANY PLAT OR DRAWING THAT COMES FORWARD HAS TO BE SEALED BY A LICENSED SURVEYOR. AND WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE IN OUR ORDINANCES THAT ADDRESSES WHEN WE HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT DOES NOT MEET STANDARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN, OR IN GENERAL? LIKE WHAT ARE THE LEVELS OF CONSEQUENCE FOR THAT? AND I UNDERSTAND WE BRING IN DIFFERENT SURVEYORS, BUT THEY LOOK AT THE GRADING OF THE OF THE LAND AS WELL. AND WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY RESIDENTS THERE ARE PROBLEMS. SO HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO SAY THEY'VE COME IN AND THEY SURVEYED THE LAND AND NOW THERE'S PROBLEMS. [00:05:07] SO MAYBE WE BRING IN SURVEYOR. THERE'S PROPERTY THAT HAD 2 TO 4FT CHANGE IN ELEVATION BETWEEN THE SURVEY THAT WAS DONE FOR THE PROPERTY AND WHEN THEY WERE GIVEN THE HOME. SOMEWHERE IN THERE THE GRADING GOT CHANGED. SO WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY ON THAT? BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT THE HOME. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. WE CAN BRING IT A DRAFT ORDINANCE FORWARD. AND AT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION WE WOULD LIKE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON ON THE PRIORITY FOR THESE THESE PROPOSED CHANGES. SO WE'LL GET THAT AT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION. BUT FOR THE SECOND ITEM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TOMMY MAPP, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL. TOMMY MAPP, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. SO IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TODD FOR THE LANGUAGE CHANGE IT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENTS AND SET AN EXPIRATION ON THOSE FOR 2 YEARS. AND THE EXPECTATION THEN WOULD BE THAT A NEW ASSESSMENT WOULD NEED TO BE PERFORMED BEFORE ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE COULD GO FORWARD. WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE ABOUT AMENDING OUR ORDINANCE TO ADD THAT IN THERE. BUT WE WANTED TO ALSO ALLOW INPUT FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AS TO ANY OTHER DIRECTION THAT THIS ORDINANCE MAY NEED TO GO. WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON, ON ALL OF THESE CHANGES? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE CITY AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL ABILITY. WHAT WHAT WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND AS WELL? I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY SETTING AN EXPIRATION FOR A DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT IS A A BAD THING. I THINK THAT IT WOULD THEN HOLD SOME ACCOUNTABILITY. NOW I THINK THAT THERE MAY BE SOME PUSHBACK FROM SOME DEVELOPERS WHENEVER THEIR ASSESSMENT SAID ONE THING, AND THEN ANOTHER DEVELOPER COMES IN AND THEIR ASSESSMENT THEN CHANGES OR ALTERS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS. SO THERE'S THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME LANGUAGE THAT'S KIND OF BALANCED IN THERE AS TO HOW THAT'S WORDED. SO THAT 1 DEVELOPER ISN'T NECESSARILY CAUSING AN IMPACT TO ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S A FINANCIAL BURDEN, BECAUSE THEN I THINK WE'RE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE. SO I THINK IT'S JUST WHILE I DO THINK THAT IT'S A VALID THING TO HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW IT'S WORDED. WELL, I THINK IT'S TECHNICALLY ADDRESSED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CAUSE DAMAGES OR CHANGES. SO IF 1 DEVELOPER IS ALREADY DEVELOPING AND ANOTHER ONE COMES IN AND DOES THEIR DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT, THEY SHOULD BE THE ONE ADDRESSING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING ISN'T GOING TO BE CAUSING THOSE CHANGES ONTO THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. UNDERSTOOD. BUT AS YOU WERE SAYING IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM, IF 1 DEVELOPER DOES NOT DO THE DUE DILIGENCE AND IT CAUSES ISSUES DOWNSTREAM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT CONFLICT CAN COME IN. SO WE JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW IT'S WORDED, NOT NECESSARILY NOT OR TO AVOID PUTTING IT IN THERE, BUT TO JUST BE CAREFUL OF HOW HOW WE WORD THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. AND YOU GUYS, I GUESS, CAN WORK WITH GRANT AND OUR [INAUDIBLE] TEAM TO SEE WHAT'S THE BEST, BEST WAY TO WORD IT. CORRECT? YES, SIR. TO SOLVE THESE THESE ISSUES. YES, SIR. THAT'S WE'LL HAVE WE'LL COMPLETE LEGAL INPUT AND LEGAL COUNSEL AS WE AMEND ANY OF THESE ORDINANCES. I HAVE 1 QUESTION. I KNOW A LOT OF THESE DESIRED ORDINANCE CHANGES ARE ARE GEARED TOWARDS LARGE SCALE DEVELOPERS DEVELOPMENT OF LARGE AREAS OF LAND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO CONSIDERING WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL LOTS ALONG FLOODPLAINS AND WHAT NOT. SO IF WE MAKE I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE TOO MUCH AN EFFECT ON THOSE SINGLE PROPERTY OWNERS PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXISTING LAND WITH THE EXISTING PROPERTY, AND THEY WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING ELSE. WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THEM WITH EXCESSIVE ASSESSMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF THEY'RE IF I WANT TO BUILD A BARN IN THE BACK FLOOD AREA OF MY PROPERTY, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO A BIG DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE LANDSCAPE TYPE DEAL. IS THAT YOU CATCH. YEAH. I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT. AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT WILL BE RESOLVED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH LAND THEY'RE AFFECTING. THINGS LIKE THAT WILL TRIGGER DIFFERENT TYPES OF STUDIES OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF EROSION CONTROL MEASURES, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE NEEDED. SO I THINK WITH THE EFFECT OF OUR OTHER ORDINANCES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, THAT THAT WE CAN WE CAN ASSURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT THOSE PEOPLE. AND YOU WERE LOOKING FOR JUST DIRECTION ON THE ORDER IN TERMS OF WHICH, HOW TO ADDRESS THESE OR WHEN TO ADDRESS THESE [00:10:07] AT THE END, YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK WHICH ONE OF THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST PRIORITY SO THAT WE CAN START WORKING WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE AS QUICKLY AS AND AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO, I GUESS, TO AMEND THESE ORDINANCES? EACH 1. EACH ONE IS GOING TO VARY DEPENDING UPON THE AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DRASTICALLY THEY'RE AMENDED. SO I CAN'T PUT A TIME FRAME ON EACH 1 NECESSARILY. THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF AN EFFECT OF DISCUSSING THAT WITH OUR ATTORNEYS, BUT SO I DON'T WANT TO SET AN EXPECTATION AND THEN NOT MEET IT. SO I DON'T REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE GIVING A TIMELINE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE AMENDMENTS. AND I KNOW THAT YOUR YOUR CONCERN WAS WHEN THE MORATORIUM GETS LIFTED, WILL WE CAN THESE BE DONE BEFORE THEN IF WE DO DECIDE TO DO ALL FOUR OF THESE? I BELIEVE SO, YES. SO OKAY. BUT. THESE WERE THE ONES THAT I REWROTE AND WERE SUGGESTING I GAVE BEFORE SUMMER. SO IT'S BEEN MONTHS THAT THESE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE CITY'S ATTENTION. MONTHS SINCE I SHOWED, LIKE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. AND THEY WERE NEVER BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL UNTIL I HAD TO PUSH AND SAY, WE ARE 5, 6 MEETINGS AWAY FROM MORATORIUM LIFTING. WHERE'S THE CALENDAR AND TIMELINE ON ADDRESSING THESE THINGS? IT'S BEEN MONTHS. SO WHY? WHY HAVE WE WAITED THIS LONG? AND IT MAY NOT. I MEAN, YOU ANSWERED LIKE THERE'S THAT HIERARCHY. DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER OR IS THIS A QUESTION THAT NEEDS I MEAN, I KNOW MR. MASHBURN IS NOT HERE WITH US TODAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF FRED'S ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT DIRECTION COMES FROM. SO. SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IN WORKING ON THIS THERE HAS BEEN ACTION ON THESE ITEMS. IT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE BACKGROUND. WE'VE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL. WE'VE AND PROPOSED SOME CHANGES THAT WE PUT FORWARD TO FROM THE STAFF LEVEL TO REVIEW THOSE AGAINST BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. SO THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS MADE ON THESE. IT'S JUST WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY HAD THEM IN THIS FORUM TO TO PRESENT THEM TO YOU. YEAH. AND I WILL SAY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THESE AUDITS IN THE BACKGROUND. I THINK THERE WAS 10 TOTAL THAT WE WAS LOOKING AT. AND WE'RE AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE JUST WHICH WHICH ORDINANCES DO WE FOCUS ON FIRST? AND THE ONES THAT I THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, I TOLD THEM TO BEFORE THAT YOU DID RIGHT TO BRING THOSE NOW. SO AND THEN THERE'S OTHER ORDINANCES THAT WE'LL LOOK AFTER. BUT THESE 4 WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT BEFORE THE ORDINANCE. CORRECT? WELL, I'VE BEEN BRINGING THEM UP SINCE NOVEMBER. WE'RE GOING ON A YEAR OF ME POINTING OUT ORDINANCES THAT NEED ALTERED, ORDINANCES THAT AREN'T FOLLOWED. THINGS THAT NEED UPDATED. AT ALMOST EVERY COUNCIL MEETING. I'VE POINTED OUT ISSUES WITH ORDINANCES AND A NEED TO ADDRESS THEM. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY IT TOOK THIS LONG, EVEN TO JUST COME BEFORE US AND TELL US WHERE THE PROGRESS IS WITH IT. SO. I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I KNOW, I KNOW, WE GOT THE ORIGINAL REQUEST BACK IN. I THINK MID MAY, I THINK, IS WHEN THREE OF THESE ORDINANCES WAS SENT TO THE STAFF. I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH THE TEAM, IT'S JUST CAPACITY. I MEAN, THESE THINGS TAKE TIME. WE WENT THROUGH A MIDDLE OF A BUDGET THAT EVERY DIRECTOR, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, STARTED IN MAY. WE WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET STRATEGIC RETREAT, BUDGET RETREAT AS WELL OF ALL THE ORDINANCES. JUST CAPACITY, GUYS. THAT'S ALL IT IS. AND IT'S TRYING TO REALLY JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THIS GROUP SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING THE RIGHT RESOURCES, THE RIGHT THINGS. THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST EXCUSE I CAN COME UP WITH IS JUST BASICALLY JUST COME DOWN TO CAPACITY, FOLKS. THAT'S REALLY ALL IT BOILS DOWN TO. WELL, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, FRED, I DON'T NECESSARILY WELL, I DON'T TAKE THAT AS AN EXCUSE. I REALIZE THAT THAT WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON AND THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT THE STAFF IS WORKING ON. SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. AND I WILL SAY THAT, YES, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THESE IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT WE'RE HERE NOW AND WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THEM. AND SO WE CAN SO WE CAN GET GOING ON IT. YEAH. WE'RE GAME TO GET IT DONE AND WORK HARD AS FAST AS WE CAN TO GET IT BEFORE THE P&Z AND COUNCIL FOR SOME OF THESE, WE KNOW THERE'S A TIME TIME CRUNCH. IT JUST COMES OUT OF CAPACITY AND MANPOWER, QUITE HONESTLY. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN, I GUESS, MOVE TO THE NEXT 1. [00:15:04] SURE. SO WE ALSO HAVE A LAND USE STUDY AND SITE PLAN AND RETAINING WALLS, THE RETAINING WALLS. WE'VE WORKED QUITE A BIT ON THAT 1. WE HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE FINALIZING OUR INTERNAL REVIEW. THAT ONE IS THE MOST READY TO GO, READY TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU. THAT INCLUDES NEW INSPECTION PROTOCOL TO TO REALLY RAMP UP OUR RETAINING WALL PROCEDURES AND PROCESS. SO THAT 1 IS, IF YOU WERE TO MAKE THAT 1 A PRIORITY OR REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU PRIORITIZE THAT 1, IT'S IT'S IT'S ADVANCED ALONG FURTHER THAN ANY OF THESE OTHER ONES. I HAVE 2 OTHER SLIDES OF OF ORDINANCE UPDATES FOR YOUR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SHORT TERM RENTALS. THIS LOOKING AT LIKE AIRBNB OR VRBOS IN THE CITY. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MECHANISM TO COLLECT A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX ON THOSE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO REGULATE SHORT TERM RENTALS WHERE THEY CAN BE. THIS WOULD BE WE HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER. MY STAFF HAS DONE RESEARCH, LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING, AND WE HAVE THAT DRAFTED JUST NEED DIRECTION ON IF THAT'S 1 TO PRIORITIZE AND BRING FORWARD TO YOU ALL. AND THEN RENTAL REGULATIONS THAT WOULD REFER TO LONG TERM RRENTALS, SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY, HAVING AN INSPECTION PROGRAM. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BY THE COUNCIL IN THE PAST. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION THERE. AND THEN SOME LEGISLATIVE IPDATES AND MUNICODE EVALUATION. I'LL TURN THE TIME OVER TO MR. LOWRY TO SPEAK TO THOSE. THANK YOU. CRAIG. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SO THIS THE CITY UTILIZED MUNICODE, WHICH IS THE CITY'S 3RD PARTY CODIFICATION COMPANY THAT CODIFIES ALL THE THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. AND THEY DID A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, ALL THE CITY'S CODES, BECAUSE THERE'S AREAS THAT EVEN I'VE PINPOINTED AND STAFF AND COUNCIL PINPOINTED WHERE THERE'S MAYBE OUTDATED LEGAL CITATIONS OR LINKS THAT DON'T CROSS-REFERENCE CORRECTLY, ETC. SO THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THAT. THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF THOSE EDITS THAT WE GOT BACK A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. ON TOP OF MAKING SOME LEGISLATIVE UPDATES AS NEEDED, SOME OF THOSE THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED AMONGST COUNCIL. SO I ANTICIPATE THAT 1 COMING, COMING BEFORE COUNCIL IN OCTOBER. THANK YOU. GRANT. THEN. MORATORIUM RELATED UPDATES. YOU SAW THE RESIDENTIAL DESIGN STANDARDS THAT YOU ALL APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR. STAFF HAS ALSO BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING ON A PLAT SUBMITTAL CALENDAR AND A ZONING SUBMITTAL CALENDAR, WHICH THOSE ARE LIVE AND WE'RE USING. THOSE HAVE BEEN FOR A FEW MONTHS. SO THAT HAS REALLY HELPED TO TO STREAMLINE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND SET EXPECTATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FOR HOW LONG PROJECTS WILL TAKE TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON A DEVELOPMENT HANDBOOK THAT WILL OUTLINE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH. WE'LL HAVE THAT READY FOR THE PUBLIC HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH. AND THEN LAST SLIDE I'LL TURN THE TIME BACK TO MR. MAPP TO. SO FOR THE TOWN HALL REQUEST FOR FLOODPLAINS. WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING IS TO PUT TOGETHER SOME EDUCATIONAL INFORMATIONAL PACKETS AND TO DISSEMINATE THOSE TO THE RESIDENTS TO KIND OF EDUCATE ON HOW WHAT A FLOODPLAIN IS, HOW IT WORKS. WE DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL THAT A TOWN HALL WOULD BE THE BEST SETTING FOR DISCUSSING THAT. IT WOULD BE MORE OF AN INDIVIDUAL 1 ON 1 TYPE LEVEL WOULD BE BETTER, BECAUSE THEN IT THERE'S SOME INSTANCES WHERE FEMA SCOPE MAY NOT ACTUALLY FALL INTO PLACE WITH THE FLOODPLAIN AND HOW IT RELATES TO THEIR PROPERTY. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE POST DEVELOPMENT, 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAINS THAT ARE MADE, AND WE DO NOT RECORD THAT ON A MAP THAT RESIDENTS CAN LOG ON TO AND SEE WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO. WE DON'T DO IT, AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE WHERE WE ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND INFORM THEM, HEY, BY THE WAY, THERE'S NOW A 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN OVER HERE. NOW THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS COME IN, BECAUSE THAT CAN IMPACT THEIR PROPERTIES. AND THAT'S A CONCERN. AND THAT'S NOT A 1 ON 1, BECAUSE RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW THAT THESE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAINS EXIST. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO HAVE THE RECORDS OF THESE NEW HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAINS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED THROUGH THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. WE NEED TO PUT THEM ON THE GIS MAPS. THAT HAS TO BE SHOWN. PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION QUICKLY AND EASILY AND NOT HAVE TO WONDER TODAY, [00:20:04] SHOULD I PUT IN A RECORDS REQUEST FOR A POTENTIAL 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN? THEY DON'T KNOW. THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW IS IF YOU FOR SURE HAVE SEEN THOSE PLANS AND KNOW THAT A DEVELOPER DID IT. AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL IN SOME OF THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD TAKE. THE RECORD DRAWINGS FROM THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAINS FROM THE DEVELOPMENTS AND WORK WITH GIS TO TO FORM A MAP LAYER. NOW IT'LL HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE MAP LAYER THAN THE FEMA FLOODPLAINS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY WORK ON. YEAH, I JUST I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. ARE WE WANTING, I GUESS, ARE YOU REFERRING TO. IF IT'S A FEMA FLOODPLAIN, THEY COME IN AND DO THE POST DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, AND THEN THEY HAVE A 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. NOW THAT IT'S YOU WANT FEMA'S MAP TO PICK UP THAT 100 AND THAT NEW 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN? NO, I THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAINS THAT THEY'RE SAYING ARE IN ORDER FOR US TO NOT HAVE TO TELL FEMA, THEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT THESE NEW FLOODPLAINS MEET OUR STANDARDS, WHICH ARE HIGHER THAN FEMA. SO THE CITY SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN FLOODPLAIN MAP, JUST LIKE FEMA DOES, AND BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR MAINTAINING THE MAP SHOWING THEIR FLOODPLAINS. DO WE EVEN HAVE A FLOODPLAIN MANAGER RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, THERE'S THE THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR IS NO LONGER EMPLOYED HERE, BUT WE WOULD LEAN ON OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO ACT AS THAT CFM, BECAUSE THAT'S TYPICALLY WHO IT SHOULD BE. WHAT CIVIL ENGINEER WE DON'T HAVE ONE. WE CONTRACT A CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM. OKAY, SO THERE'S NOBODY HERE. I MEAN, MYSELF, I COULD DO IT, BUT THERE'S NOBODY HERE THAT HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED AS THAT. BUT YOU TYPICALLY WOULD HAVE TO THAT YOU WOULD WANT YOUR ENGINEER TO DO THAT DUTY BECAUSE IT IS VERY ENGINEERING LIKE. RIGHT. I MEAN, HOPEFULLY WE GET WE ARE ABLE TO GET AN ENGINEER BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE HIRING ONE. YEAH. BUT YEAH, HERE WE GO. WE DON'T HAVE A FLOODPLAIN MANAGER, AND WE'VE GOT SOME FLOODPLAINS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. YEAH. AND REALLY, THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGER REALLY JUST HELPS WITH THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH IS THE PERSON THAT TELLS YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE BFES OR IF YOU WANT TO PROCESS A CLOMR/LOMR. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY MAINTAIN AND REVIEW EVERY MASTER DRAINAGE STUDY IN THE CITY. WE? TRACY HOMEFIELD. SHE'S THE COUNTY ENGINEER. AND SHE IS DESIGNATED FEMA FLOODPLAIN MANAGER FOR COLLIN COUNTY AND AND HAS THE MAPS. AND I'M SAYING THAT ON FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE BECAUSE WHENEVER I WAS COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL, WE USE THOSE ALL THE TIME, CONTACTED HER TO MAKE SURE ANY PROPERTY THAT MIGHT BE IN FLOOD PLAINS NO ONE IS BUILDING IN. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE USE USE HER OR NOT OR USE THAT. YEAH, YEAH. TYPICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATION IF THE CITY PARTAKES IN THE NFIP PROGRAM, THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, YOU BASICALLY DESIGNATE A FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH WE HAVE IN OUR CASE, IT WAS OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL. HE'S MOVED ON. SO WHENEVER WE HIRE A NEW BUILDING OFFICIAL, IF THAT PERSON IS, WE SEEM FIT TO CARRY THAT ROLE. WE WILL DESIGNATE THAT PERSON. IF NOT, IT'S TYPICALLY AN ENGINEER BECAUSE THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT IT IS. WE CAN USE THE COUNTY. IT'S THAT'S PRIMARILY MORE FOR COUNTY FLOODPLAINS BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY PARTICIPATE IN A PARTICULAR SIMILAR PROGRAM. BUT FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FEMA LAYER THAT WE USE. OBVIOUSLY, THEY DON'T UPDATE THOSE LAYERS, PROBABLY, IF WE'RE LUCKY, EVERY 10 YEARS. IT DEPENDS ON THE GROWTH AND HOW FREQUENT IT IS. THAT'S SOME OF THE PURPOSE OF THE MASTER DRAINAGE STUDY IS TO HELP KEEP THAT MORE DYNAMIC AND NOT STATIC. SO THAT'S TYPICALLY WHEN WE WOULD USE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR. AND HONESTLY, THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR UNLESS THEY'RE AN ENGINEER, THEY'RE BASICALLY PROCESSING FEMA PERMITS. COME IN, MAKE A FEMA PERMIT, THEY SEND THAT FEMA PERMIT TO FEMA WITH AN APPLICATION WHETHER IT'S ON A LOMR BASED ON FILL ALOMA, CLOMR, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT, ALL THOSE ACRONYMS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY REALLY DON'T GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THEM BECAUSE IT IS A FEMA FLOODPLAIN. AND YOU BASICALLY WE'RE THE CONDUIT TO SEND IT TO, TO WASHINGTON, BASICALLY. SO BUT HERE'S THE THING. IT'S FEMA, FEMA, FEMA, FEMA, FEMA. WE DON'T MANAGE OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGER IS NOT REQUIRED TO, BY OUR ORDINANCE TO LOOK OVER AND MANAGE OUR FLOODPLAINS OR GET PERMITS TO BUILD IN OUR FLOODPLAINS. EVERYTHING IS FEMA COVERED. AND IT'S CONCERNING THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S THE THE LIGHT BULB HAS COME ON. HEY, OUR ENGINEERS THAT WE 3RD PARTY NEED TO BE OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGER. AND BEFORE IT'S A BUILDING INSPECTOR CAN IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF THAT. [00:25:03] AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS. IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO WHEN WE WHEN A PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS DRAINAGE AND FLOODWAY EASEMENTS. THOSE. EASEMENTS ARE DEDICATED VIA PLAT, AND WE DO NOT PERMIT ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THOSE DRAINAGE AND EASEMENTS. THOSE EASEMENTS THEY'RE SHOWN ON THE PLAT FOR DRAINAGE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, OTHER TYPE OF BUILDING PERMITS ARE NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THOSE LOTS. WE DON'T ALLOW FOR BUILDING TO HAPPEN WITHIN THAT. SO AND HOW DO YOU QUICKLY IDENTIFY 1 OF THOSE THINGS? SO SAY SAY WE HAVE A NEW WE HAVE A NEW TEAM OR WHATEVER. YOU'RE THE ONE WHO LOOKED AT THE MAPS. YOU'RE YOU'VE SEEN THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW THEM. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY YES, WE APPROVED THIS. AND THERE'S A FLOODPLAIN SITTING HERE. BUT IF SOMEONE NEW COMES IN 5, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE YOUR KNOWLEDGE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT UNLESS THEY START DIGGING TO DISCOVER, HEY, THERE IS A FLOODPLAIN THAT GOT ADDED HERE. SO THOSE PLATS GET FILED WITH THE COUNTY. THEY BECOME PUBLIC RECORD. AND ANY GOOD PLANNER, IF THEY'RE PROCESSING A PERMIT IN A SUBDIVISION, THEY'RE GOING TO PULL UP THE PLAT AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT AREAS ARE DESIGNATED AS DRAINAGE AND FLOOD PLAIN. SO WE COULD. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FILED WITH COUNTY THAT ARE NOT. MOST OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE NOT ON THERE. MANY THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FILED WITH COUNTY FROM OUR CITY ARE NOT FILED. SO THAT'S A CONCERN. YOU SAY THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP. WHAT IF IT'S NOT THERE? YEAH, I CAN ATTEST TO THAT. I AT MY. I REACHED OUT TO TO CONFIRM MY AREA, WHICH IS PRINCETON MEADOWS, AND IT WASN'T FILED WITH THE COUNTY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I GUESS, HONESTLY, IT DEPENDS HOW MUCH OF THE DRIVER'S SEAT WE WANT THE CITY TO BE IN. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THAT THING, A LOT OF THOSE, A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE DONE AT THE TITLE WORK. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOUR TITLE AGENCIES GOES AND PULLS ALL DOCUMENTS AND IT SHOULD SHOW YOU WHERE FLOODPLAIN IS, WHERE FLOOD EASEMENTS ARE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TIDAL UNLESS THOSE THINGS ARE DEPICTED ON A ORDINANCE, IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO FILE THOSE FINAL PLATS WITH COUNTY. YEAH. WHICH WERE NOT GETTING DONE, I'M ASSUMING, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, STAFFING AND ALL OF THAT WHERE EVERYONE'S TIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DO. AND I KNOW MONEY IS TIGHT. I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. BUT WE'RE RUNNING INTO ISSUES WHERE WHERE YOU GO TO GET A DOCUMENT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PUBLIC RECORD, EASY TO GET AND IT'S NOT THERE. SO ON THAT SIDE NOW, AMBER IS GETTING EXTRA PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS ON THINGS THAT SHOULD BE FILED WITH COUNTY AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO GET. AND NOW SHE HAS MORE WORK TO DO BECAUSE DOCUMENTS THAT SHOULD BE READILY AVAILABLE AREN'T READILY AVAILABLE. SO IT'S IT HAS A RIPPLE EFFECT. SURE. YEAH, I CAN, I CAN SAY THAT. IF PLANTS ARE NOT GETTING FILED, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL DEFINITELY ADDRESS. AS FAR AS I AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY ARE. BUT IF THEY ARE NOT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY CONTROL VERY EASILY AND MAKE SURE THAT GETS DONE. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IF IT'S, IF IT'S IN A FEMA FLOODPLAIN, IF IT HAS AN EASEMENT ON IT, IF IT HAS SOME TYPE OF DETAILS, THOSE ALL SHOULD BE PICKED UP ON THE PLOT PLAN AND ON THE PLAT, WHICH TYPICALLY WHEN YOU I MEAN, WE'VE ALL BOUGHT HOMES, RIGHT. IT'S ON YOUR TITLE USUALLY GET THE PLOT PLAN. IT SHOWS YOU ALL THE EASEMENTS, THE DEDICATIONS. AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHERE IT SHOULD BE. NOT ALL TITLE AGENCIES DO THOSE DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL AS OTHERS. BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY THAT HELPS INFORM THE, THE HOMEOWNER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH EVERY HOUSE SALE AND EVERYBODY BUYING 1. WE CAN JUST FILE THINGS AT THE COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY THAT THE TITLE AGENCIES PICK THAT INFORMATION UP BEFORE ANYBODY BUYS A HOME. SO BUT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THAT THAT EXERCISE IS GETTING DONE EFFECTIVELY. DOES THAT NEED TO BE AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENS? NO, I MEAN THAT THAT'S THAT'S STANDARD PRACTICE WITH WITH THE TEAM. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ENSURE THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLATS, PLATS AND EASEMENTS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, MAKING SURE THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE MEMORIALIZED AT THE COUNTY. AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. YES. THINGS THAT SHOULD BE ON FILE NEED TO BE ON FILE. AGREE IN ACCORDANCE TO THE IRDINANCES THAT ARE THE LAW OF THE CITY. YEAH. INTERNALLY WE'VE WE'VE STARTED A PROCESS OF MAKING SURE ALL THE AGREEMENTS ARE GOING TO GET SIGNED BY THE DEVELOPER BEFORE THEY EVEN COME BEFORE COUNCIL, JUST SO THAT EXERCISE IS ALREADY DONE BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE FILING PART. SO THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY. SO COUNCIL WOMAN TODD, IN YOUR RESEARCH, HAVE YOU FOUND HOW LONG AGO THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN FILED WITH THE COUNTY? I MEAN, IT'S HIT OR MISS ON DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT YOU ARE ALSO WELCOME TO REACH [00:30:07] OUT TO COUNTY AND LOOK AT RECORDS. I KNOW THAT, BUT YOU SAID THAT YOU DID RESEARCH, SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU IF IN YOUR RESEARCH, YOU HAVE ASCERTAINED WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN 2019 THERE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE NOT FILED PROPERLY. WITH DEVELOPMENT A ZONING THING WAS BACKDATED. I CAN TELL YOU LOTS OF THINGS THAT I'VE FOUND THAT THERE. WHY I RAN, I FOUND THEM AS A RESIDENT. BUT IT IS KIND OF CONCERNING THAT IT'S ALWAYS PEOPLE COMING AT ME AND BEING LIKE, WHAT DID YOU RESEARCH? WHY AM I THE ONE WHO HAS TO DO ALL THE RESEARCH? WHY AM I THE ONE UP HERE WHO HAS TO LOOK INTO ALL THE THINGS? I MEAN, TRULY, THERE'S 8 OF US UP HERE. WELL, LET ME JUST SAY, MISS TODD, YOU'RE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE ONLY 1 AND I WILL. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, BUT I'VE DONE PLENTY OF RESEARCH SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL. RIGHT? IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES WITH THE SEAT, RIGHT? SO I DON'T I'M CERTAINLY NOT COMING AT YOU OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK WE JUST WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY, OR AT LEAST MS. DAVID-GRAVES DID. BUT WHAT WHERE WHERE ARE WE ON THE PRESENTATION AT THIS POINT? WHERE ARE WE? YEAH, THIS. IS THE LAST SLIDE. OBVIOUSLY WE WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST 2 AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. WE'RE MAKING SOME GOOD HEADWAY WITH THE MASTER DRAINAGE STUDY. WE PLAN ON BRINGING KIND OF A, I WOULD THINK, LIKE A, A MENU LIST TO SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST USE AN ANALOGY. BRONZE, SILVER, GOLD PACKAGE, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO KIND OF SEE WHERE THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO AND HOW DEEP THEY WANT TO GET INTO THE MASTER DRAINAGE STUDY. AND THEN THE CEAAC COMMITTEE, OBVIOUSLY, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THE LAST MEETING WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT RECRUITING FOR THAT BOARD AS WELL TO BE PREPARED FOR THE IMPACT FEE UPDATE. SO THOSE ARE THE THOSE THAT IS THE LAST ITEM. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY JUST WANT TO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO FACILITATE THESE OR WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO USE OUR EXPERTISE TO HELP FACILITATE THESE ORDINANCES FOR THE FOR THE COUNCIL. THIS IS OF EVERYBODY'S IMPORTANCE. SO WE JUST REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONES TO START CHECKING OFF SO WE CAN START THE P&Z COUNCIL PROCESS AND BRING BRING BACK SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO, TO COMMENT ON AND MASSAGE. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT THAT I THOUGHT OF AFTER OUR LAST MEETING THAT'S RELATED TO THIS. YOU MENTIONED THE DRAINAGE WITH THE STORMWATER THING BEING DONE IN 2017. AND ACCORDING TO OUR LAST CITY PLAN, OUR POPULATION IS 25 YEARS IN ADVANCE, MAKING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE 25 YEARS BEHIND SCHEDULE, WHICH THEN EQUATES OUR STORMWATER STUDIES ABOUT 33 YEARS OLD, TECHNICALLY, AND IN THAT SENSE, FROM HOW OLD IT IS FROM 2017 TO NOW, AND YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. OUR POPULATION IS RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WAS PROJECTED FOR 25 YEARS FROM NOW. THAT MAKES IT ABOUT 33 YEARS OLD. IN REGARDS TO ITS USAGE. SO IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE THINGS. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING WE ALL WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON. AND I WHEN IT CLICKED THAT THAT'S TECHNICALLY WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, I FELT THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE REALLY CONSIDER THAT. AND DON'T WE HAVE A DO WE HAVE RFQ COMING FOR THAT AS WELL? YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE DRAINAGE ENGINEERS FOR US TO ENGAGE WITH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE WE'RE BASICALLY WITH OUR DRAINAGE ENGINEER SAYING, HEY, GIVE US A PROPOSAL WITH A MENU LIST TO SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, ON WHICH ONE OF THESE ITEMS, LIKE HOW DEEP WE WANT TO GET WITH IT, THAT WE WILL BRING BEFORE COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU WANT TO DO THE, YOU KNOW, THE I'M JUST LIKE, USE AN ANALOGY. BRONZE, SILVER, GOLD PACKAGE. WHICH ONE? YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GET THAT BACK. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT PROBABLY IN ABOUT 30 DAYS, GIVE OR TAKE. OKAY. AND SO THIS LAST SLIDE, THESE 3, WELL, THIS WORKSHOP THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THE ORDINANCES. CORRECT. DO WE NEED SO. YEAH, WE'RE. YEAH. REALLY? REALLY ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST NEED SOME MARCHING ORDERS ON, YOU KNOW, THE BULLET POINTS THAT YOU KNOW UP HERE. [00:35:02] FOR THIS FIRST 4R, OR IS IT ALSO FOR WHAT'S BECAUSE WE ALREADY AGREED ON THE RENTAL AND THE SHORT TERM RENTAL WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET RETREAT. THOSE SHOULD ALREADY BE GOING. I KNOW CRAIG SAID THAT THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE. ALMOST READY. I THINK THOSE CAN BE PRESENTED AS AS THEY THEY COME. I DON'T THINK THAT. SO EVERYTHING ON THIS PAGE SHOULD BE ALREADY IN THE WORKS. SO WE'RE ONLY GIVING YOU DIRECTION ON THE FIRST 4. YEAH. THE THERE'S SOMETHING DONE ON EVERY ONE OF THESE. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHICHEVER ONES Y'ALL WANT TO SEE FIRST, THEN WE'LL FOCUS IN ON BECAUSE WE'VE GOT DRAFTS OF THESE. WE'RE WORKING DRAFTS. IF A WORKING DRAFT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL, THAT'S THE ONES WE WANT TO BRING. I KNOW THE RETAINING WALL IS IS WILL BE MY NUMBER 1. BUT WE ALREADY YOU SAID YOU WERE ALMOST DONE WITH THAT. SO THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN. WE CAN WE CAN PROBABLY GET THAT ONE. YEAH. FAIRLY SOON. YES. OKAY. AND THEN DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A STORMWATER STUDY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE UPDATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO 2ND BULLET POINT, 4TH BULLET POINT THAT THOSE ARE PROBABLY. AND THEN THE LAND USE. AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MY ORDER. I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCIL HAS ANYTHING. I CONCUR. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE. I ACTUALLY HAVE THEM LISTED THAT WAY AS WELL. BUT THESE, TO BE CLEAR, ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS BECAUSE WE ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT A PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND THEY WERE ALREADY TOLD TO TO GET THIS STUFF DONE. CORRECT. YEAH. THE ONLY ONE THAT WE HAVE NOT STARTED OUT OF THIS GROUP IS THE RENTAL REGULATIONS. THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH THAN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. SO WE JUST OBVIOUSLY INTERNALLY WE WANT THE PRIORITY. THE SHORT TERM WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO. PLUS WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ENFORCE. SO THAT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A FRIVOLOUS ORDINANCE THAT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ENFORCE IT BECAUSE THAT TAKES CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WE'RE DOWN ONE STAFF MEMBER TO THAT. SO. AND DO YOU AGREE WITH ALL OF THE THE ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT'S RECOMMENDED RIGHT NOW? ARE YOU ARE YOU IN AGREEANCE WITH EVERY ONE OF THEM? YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK IF THE RETAINING WALLS, THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT, WE'VE HEARD THE COMMUNITY TALK ABOUT THAT. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO TO HIT. YEAH, WE CAN DO IT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S HONESTLY, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. I MEAN, MY OPINION OF MATTERS IN A DIFFERENT LEVEL, BUT IN THIS CASE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL, LET'S LET'S GET THEM DONE AND START KNOCKING THESE OUT. THERE'S 1 MORE THAT'S ON HERE. BUT IT WAS LISTED IN OUR FEES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING THE FEE SCHEDULE. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A 2 FOR 1 SPECIAL. THE TREE ORDINANCES AND THE TREE STUDY. THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST. I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING OUR FEES ON THAT. AND I JUST WHILE YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ALREADY DOING THAT RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO BACK AND DO THE WORK TWICE, JUST AS YOU'RE PREPARING THAT KIND OF ALSO GLANCE AT THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THEY'RE CUTTING DOWN TREES, THEY'RE NOT CUTTING DOWN THE ONES THEY SHOULDN'T BE. AND IF YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE CUTTING DOWN TREES, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? SURE. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A FEW PROPERTIES. I WANT TO SAY IT'S WHITE WING, I THINK IS WHITE WING WHERE THEY CUT DOWN A LOT OF TREES. THE WINDBREAK IS NOT THERE, AND IT'S CAUSING A LOT TO HAPPEN ONTO A PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER HAVE THE WINDBREAK OF THOSE TREES. SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND WHILE YOU'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THAT ONE AND TWEAKING IT. WELL. I WAS GOING TO ASK HOW FAR OUT OF SCOPE IS THAT ONE IN TERMS OF THE ONES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? WHICH ONE? THE RENTAL. THE TREE ONES. THE TREE ONE? HONESTLY, WE HAVEN'T STARTED THAT EXERCISE YET. BUT I CAN TELL YOU INTERNALLY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A LIST. I HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO START TACKLING. YOU KNOW, THESE ORDINANCES, UPDATES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE BRINGING ON A NEW DIRECTOR IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LIST OF ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TO, TO SHORE UP ORDINANCES TO MAKE THEM SOLID TO HELP WITH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND PROCESSES. THE TREE ONE IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT UPDATING AS PART OF THAT. IT'S AGAIN, IT JUST I KEEP MAKING EXCUSES. IT JUST TAKES THE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT THE 1ST TIME. AND AND JUST FOR THE RECORD HERE, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE SO FAR FOR IT? ALMOST 7 MONTHS. I'M NOT EVEN. I'M. I'M STILL ON PROBATION, MR. JOHNSON. YEAH, EXACTLY. AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF I KNOW THAT YOUR EXPERTISE IS THE EXACT FIELD THAT YOU'RE IN, AND YOU CAME ON AND YOU KNOW, AGREED TO HELP US WITH THESE ISSUES THAT WE KNEW WERE THERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THE TASK AND DOING SO. AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME OF THE UPDATES THAT YOU'LL BE BRINGING. SURE, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I'M NOT SAYING LIKE JUMP THE TREES TO THE BEGINNING. I'M JUST SAYING I KNOW YOU'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT AND JUST SAYING, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO THE WORK TWICE. [00:40:01] RIGHT, RIGHT. JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. WHEN YOU GET TO THE FEE SCHEDULE PART, THAT'S. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THE TREES CAN GET COMPLICATED. THEIR SPECIES, THEIR SIZE, THEIR I MEAN IT CAN GET REALLY BIG DEAL. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO BE TRAILBLAZING TOO MANY THINGS I GUESS, IN NO PUN INTENDED. SO ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE DIRECTION ON, ON THIS ITEM. AND JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT 1. DO YOU MIND? OH, I'M SORRY, I SEE, I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. SO I'LL JUST KEEP THIS EASY. AND THE COUPLE THAT I DISAGREE WITH AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW, IS THIS THE 6TH ONE FOR REGARDING RENTALS? PROPERTIES REGISTRATION PROGRAM POTENTIALLY. SEEMS LIKE A A LOT OF EXTRA WORK THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AT THIS POINT. KEEP THAT ON THE BACK BURNER FOR THE FUTURE. NUMBER 11. THIS IS ASKING FOR A TOWN HALL TYPE ENVIRONMENT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO PEOPLE FOR STUFF THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE ONLINE. SO I GET THE THE DESIRE OF HAVING UPDATED INFORMATION ON THAT. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT SUBMITS ALL THAT RELEVANT INFORMATION PROPERLY ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE. SO THOSE ARE THE 2 THAT I REALLY DON'T SEE ISSUE WITH PUTTING ON THE BACK BURNER FOR RIGHT NOW. EVERYTHING ELSE, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS WERE ALREADY IN PROCESS ON. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS WERE ALREADY WORKING TOWARDS A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL IS HOPING TO SEE. SINCE A LOT OF US ARE EXPRESSING THAT THE OTHER THING THAT MAKES ME SO I LIKE REGULATION. I LIKE PROCEDURES AND POLICIES. BECAUSE IN MY WORK THAT KEEPS PEOPLE ALIVE, RIGHT? WHAT I DO DAILY. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE'S LAND, THE CONSERVATIVE IN ME SAYS, DON'T OVER REGULATE AND DON'T OVERBURDEN LANDOWNERS. WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. I GET IT. WE WANT TO STICK IT TO THE THE BIG GIANT DEVELOPER THAT HAS DEEP POCKET BOOKS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. BUT WE ALSO GOT TO THINK OF THE INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS THAT ARE THAT CAN BE AFFECTED BY THESE ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT ARE GEARED TO PROTECT US FROM THE LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT. SO I REALLY URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE SMALL GUY OR THE SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS IN THESE UPDATES AND CONSIDER THAT AND DO OUR BEST TO STAY OUT OF PEOPLE'S BUSINESS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. SO LET'S TRY TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES AND THEN WORK ON ALL THESE AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU ALL COME UP WITH. AND THEN I ALSO APPRECIATE THE THE MUNICODE NUMBER 8. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A HIGH PRIORITY ONE, BECAUSE THAT IS A PROFESSIONAL EVALUATION OF JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE CURRENT WITH ALL THE LEGISLATION AND WE'RE NOT CITING OLD THINGS. SO DEFINITELY THAT SEEMS LIKE ONE THAT SHOULD BE PUSHED THROUGH AS SPEEDILY. THANK YOU. FRED, JUST CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR ME THOSE THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAINS THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT? THEY'RE NOT ON FILE. CORRECT. WE DON'T MAKE A MAP SHOWING THOSE. WE'D HAVE TO FIND. YOU'D HAVE TO KNOW TO GO LOOK FOR IT. IT ISN'T JUST READILY AVAILABLE UNLESS YOU KNOW TO GO ASK FOR IT. YEAH. MY MY UNDERSTAND IF UNDERSTANDING IS IF IT'S KIND OF KIND OF. TO EXPLAIN THIS EFFECTIVELY. SO YOU HAVE THE FEMA 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, WHICH IS READILY AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY, AND THEN YOU HAVE. CITY ONES. THEN YOU HAVE WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES IN, THEY DO A DRAINAGE STUDY. THEY THEN HAVE THEY DESIGN TO THE 100 YEAR STORM. OKAY. NOW THAT 100 YEAR STORM IS TYPICALLY MORE DETAILED THAN WHAT THE FEMA MAP HAS. IF YOU'RE ASKING IF THOSE 100 YEAR STORM DRAINAGE PLANS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE, THE CORRECT. THE ANSWER IS NO. THEY'RE NOT. UNLESS IT HAS BEEN IN THE MASTER DRAINAGE STUDY OR IF THEY HAVE TO. IF THEY'VE DONE WORK IN A FLOODPLAIN AT THAT POINT, THEY HAVE TO THEN SUBMIT IT TO FEMA. FEMA TAKES 6 MONTHS OR SO. THEY ISSUE A LOMR OF MAP REVISION. THEN THAT IS UPLOADED ON FEMA'S WEBSITE, WHICH THEN HAS THE ACCURATE ONE. SO SO WHY IS IT THAT ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND I MEAN, I HAVE TO GO BACK, I THINK 3 MEETINGS TO PULL IT UP. IT SAYS POST DEVELOPMENT HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN. IT SAYS IT IS A FLOODPLAIN POST DEVELOPMENT BY THE DEVELOPER. [00:45:03] SO IT'S NOT JUST A DRAINAGE THING. IT IS A FLOODPLAIN. IT IS IDENTIFIED AS ONE. IT IS A FLOODPLAIN. WE ARE NOT DOCUMENTING IT IN A WAY THAT IT'S READILY AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT FLOODPLAIN NOW EXISTS. YEAH. I THINK THE KEY JUST IS, IS IT A FEMA 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, OR IS IT JUST A DRAINAGE STUDY THAT HAS 100 YEAR STORM ASSOCIATED WITH WHICH, IN THAT CASE, THEY'RE CALLING IT A 100 YEAR BECAUSE WE DESIGN OUR PROJECTS BY 100 YEAR STORM EVENT. WE'RE BACK IN THE DAY. THINGS WERE DEVELOPED AT A 25 YEAR OR 50 YEAR STORM EVENT. SO OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES EVERYTHING TO BE DESIGNED TO 100 YEAR STORM EVENT. SO IF THOSE THOSE PLANS ARE ACTUALLY NOT UPLOADED ON THE ON THE WEBSITE OR NOT. NOW WHAT WE COULD DO IS WITH OUR 1 GIS GUY, WE CAN TRY TO UPLOAD THE CIVIL PLANS TO THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT COULD BE ACCESSED BY THE DEVELOPER, BY THE HOMEOWNER, OR WHATNOT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF UPLOADING THOSE PLANS ON THERE. SO AGAIN, I JUST IT IF IT'S A DRAINAGE THING, THEN WHY ARE WE HAVING IT CALLED A FLOODPLAIN IN WRITING? BECAUSE IT'S BEING STAMPED AND SIGNED OFF ON AS A FLOODPLAIN ALSO OUR CURRENT MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN IT'S NOT AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR ANYONE TO LOOK AT. IT'S A GIANT BINDER. YOU HAVE TO COME IN PERSON TO COME SEE IS IT A AN AMBITION FOR THE CITY THAT AS WE DO OUR NEW PLAN? BECAUSE I'M SURE LIKE, THAT'S GOT TO BE ANNOYING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR TOMMY OVER THERE TO HAVE TO, LIKE THIS BINDER AND FLIP THROUGH. IS IT AN AMBITION FOR US TO GET IT DIGITAL SO HE CAN, LIKE, DO THE CONTROL F AND SEARCH SO HE CAN FIND THINGS AND NOT BE FLIPPING THROUGH THAT MASSIVE BINDER ALL THE TIME WHEN HE HAS TO REFERENCE SOMETHING. CAN WE TRY AND MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR HIM AND HIS TEAM? YEAH, I THINK IF WE CAN DO IT TODAY, WE WILL. TYPICALLY WHEN THEY DO THOSE DRAINAGE STUDIES, IT DOES COME WITH THE DIGITAL SHAPE FILE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT IN AS A LAYER ON OUR GIS. IF NOT, WE CAN PUT THE WHOLE DOCUMENT ON OUR WEBSITE. THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL AT ALL. OR I THINK WHEN WE DO THE NEXT UPDATE, IF WE DECIDE TO DO IT, WE'LL BE SURE TO GET THE DIGITAL SIDE OF IT SO WE CAN PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE AS WE DO THE NEXT ONE. I'VE SEEN HOW BIG THAT BINDER IS. NO ONE NEEDS TO. SCANNING THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF TIME. I JUST KNOW THAT AS WE'RE UPDATING IT TO PLEASE KEEP TOMMY'S TEAM IN MIND AND GET IT DIGITAL FOR THEM. I JUST I SEEN THE BINDER A FEW TIMES AND IT JUST. WOW. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT TO GO REFERENCE SOMETHING. SO WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM. THAT'D BE GREAT. SURE. YEAH. I THINK MAKING IT DIGITAL IS BOTH BENEFICIAL FOR US AND EVERYBODY, SO WE WILL DEFINITELY ASPIRE TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO C2. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. C2 DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE COMPOSITION OF PARKS BOARD, INCLUDING WHETHER THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIST OF 5 OR 7 MEMBERS AND TO COMMUNICATE ANY ADDITIONAL EXPECTATIONS FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PARKS BOARD. THIS WOULD BE BY MR. GRANT. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SO I'LL TRY TO I THINK YOU READ IT OFF. THAT'S EXACTLY THE INTENT BEHIND THIS AGENDA ITEM. I THINK PREVIOUSLY, WE DISCUSSED THE NEED TO ESTABLISH OR FOR BETTER, I GUESS A BETTER TERM WOULD BE REESTABLISH THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. IN THE CURRENT CODE OF ORDINANCES, THERE'S SOME SOME LANGUAGE THAT DIFFERS IS INCONSISTENT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS. IN SOME AREAS IT MENTIONS 5 AND SOME 7. SO I THINK STAFF AND MYSELF ARE JUST SEEKING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, WHETHER WE WANT TO HAVE 5 MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OR 7. AND IF WE GO WITH 5, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE UPDATE THE QUORUM REQUIREMENT AS WELL, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE QUORUM IS 4. SO THAT'D BE THAT'D BE A CHALLENGING QUORUM TO MAKE WITH WITH 5 MEMBERS. SO JUST SEEKING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, I KNOW THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS OPENED UP APPLICATIONS FOR MEMBERS TO TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD. AND THEN PENDING, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER COUNCIL DIRECTS WILL COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT. 5 OR 7 MEMBERS. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM CHASE AND GET HIS INPUT, SINCE IT WOULD BE A PARKS AND REC BOARD. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MAYOR CHASE BRYANT, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. REALLY BETWEEN 5 AND 7 MEMBERS. WELL, IF WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE AT 4 MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVE 5 AND YOU HAVE THE QUORUM SET AT 4. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN SOMEBODY MISSES IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 1 MISS, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A, [00:50:04] YOU KNOW, A QUORUM TO FILL THAT MEETING. THIS MEETING WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT NECESSARILY HELD EVERY MONTH. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A, A MONTHLY BASIS WHETHER IT LOOKS AT EVERY COUPLE MONTHS OR QUARTERLY. SO IF YOU MISS A MEETING, THEN WE'RE RESCHEDULING AND, AND SO FORTH. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, BETWEEN 5 AND 7 MEMBERS, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE FOR THE COUNCIL DISCRETION. OKAY. SINCE IT'S I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL WITH IT BEING SOMETHING THAT ISN'T MONTHLY, IS THIS A BOARD THAT WE WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE ON ANOTHER BOARD TO ALSO PARTICIPATE ON SINCE IT'S SOMEWHAT PART TIME? OR IS ARE WE JUST IS WE HAVE A HARD TIME FILLING POSITIONS LIKE OUR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. WE KEEP HAVING PEOPLE ROTATE THROUGH BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET REGULARLY. SO I'M CONCERNED THAT WE MIGHT RUN INTO THAT HERE. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME PASSIONATE PEOPLE ON BOARDS THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES. SO I JUST A QUESTION OUT THERE FOR THE TEAM. I WOULD DEFER TO GRANT AS FAR AS THE AVAILABILITY TO SERVE ON MULTIPLE BOARDS. ONCE AGAIN, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ADVISORY BOARD. SO AS FAR AS VOTING YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE THINGS, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS, VOTING AND DIRECTIONS FOR YOU KNOW, COLOR PALETTES AND WHAT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PARK PLAY EQUIPMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS WOULD LIKE TO SEE. BUT AS FAR AS VOTING RIGHTS, THIS IS MORE OF AN ADVISORY BOARD, AND I'LL DEFER TO GRANT AS FAR AS. YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S EXACTLY IT. IT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN BOARD MEMBERS THAT LET'S JUST SAY ANYONE BESIDES COUNCIL COULD SERVE ON THIS BOARD, BUT THERE MAY BE AGENDA ITEMS THAT COME UP, THAT THERE MAY BE CONFLICTS INHERENT BETWEEN SERVING ON 2 BOARDS THAT WE MAY JUST THEY MAY HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM THAT. YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR UTEM. I KNOW MAYBE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, WE DISCUSSED THIS BRIEFLY. IT WAS DISCUSSED MAYBE HAVING ONE OR 2 OR 3 CDC MEMBERS ON THERE, POTENTIALLY. SO, I MEAN, YEAH, CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD OPEN UP IF YOU WANT TO GO, ESPECIALLY WITH 7 MEMBERS TO SOME YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY ACTIVE VOLUNTEERS IN THE CITY, BECAUSE I KNOW GOING OUT AND GETTING 7 IS A LOT MORE CHALLENGING THAN GETTING 5, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE ALREADY WE ALREADY HAVE VACANCIES ON P&Z, ETC. SO YEAH, JUST MAY COME DOWN TO FACT BASED INQUIRY IF IF CERTAIN BOARD MEMBERS NEED TO RECUSE BECAUSE THEY WEAR 2 HATS. WE HAVE 30 PEOPLE THAT HAVE STARTED APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. AND IF THE COUNCIL WAS TO RECOMMEND LEAVING AT 5 BOARD MEMBERS, I WOULD STAFF WOULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT CUTTING THE QUORUM DOWN TO A POTENTIAL 3. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT TOO. DO YOU KNOW WHY WE HAVE BOTH 5 AND 7 IN OUR ORDINANCES, WHICH IS THE NEWEST ONE. AND SO ORIGINALLY THERE WAS 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO IT KEPT IT CONSISTENT WITH THE DIFFERENT BOARDS OF THE SAME AMOUNT DURING OF EACH PLACE FOR COUNCIL. ALSO. I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND 5 , BUT SEEING THAT WE HAVE 30 PEOPLE WHO APPLIED FOR THIS POSITION, I THINK THAT WE CAN MATCH IT WITH COUNCIL AT 7 AND EVERY OTHER BOARD. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION JUST TO UPDATE IT TO 7. AND WE DON'T HAVE 30 COMPLETED APPLICATIONS, BUT 30 PEOPLE HAVE STARTED THE APPLICATION PROCESS. JUST TO CLARIFY. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE WAIT AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLY AND THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION. YEAH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 7. I WOULD AGREE THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 7. IT'S BEEN LONG ENOUGH THAT THIS BOARD HAS EXISTED IN OUR CODE AND HAS NOT BEEN FULFILLED. SO I THINK WE'VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH. LET'S START PUTTING THIS IN ORDER, AND IF I MAY IF WE COULD GET DIRECTION THIS MEETING ON THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING TO A A LATER COUNCIL MEETING. GRANT WILL BE WORKING ON THE ORDINANCES BEHIND THE SCENES. SO WHETHER IT'S 5 OR 7, WE CAN WORK ON THE PROPER ORDINANCE TO ADJUST THE LANGUAGE AND BRING THOSE APPLICANTS TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ALL IN 1 MEETING. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. JUST GET IT DONE ALL TOGETHER. [00:55:04] YES. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M IN AGREEANCE WITH THE 7 AS WELL. JUST BECAUSE GETTING MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND THEN WHAT YOU SPOKE TO EARLIER, IF YOU HAVE THE BIGGER NUMBER AND A FEW PEOPLE MISS YOU'RE STILL GOING TO, YOU KNOW, MEET QUORUM AND HAVE A DECENT GROUP THERE. IF THE NUMBER IS 5 AND A FEW PEOPLE MISS, THEN WE'VE GOT 3 PEOPLE MAKING A DECISION. AND SO I JUST THINK THE BIGGER NUMBER, THE BETTER. SO I'M ON BOARD WITH 7. GOOD WITH 7. I LIKE 7 SAME HERE 7. PERFECT. I THINK WE HAVE THE DIRECTION WE NEED, SO WE'LL MAKE THE NECESSARY AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU GUYS TO POTENTIALLY APPROVE AND THEN THEREAFTER APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE BOARD. SO THANK YOU FOR THE DIRECTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU JASON. THIS WILL BRING US TO ITEM D DISCUSSING AGENDA ITEMS. THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING OR DISCUSS ANY ITEMS LISTED ON THE MAIN MEETING AGENDA. NO FORMAL ACTION WILL BE TAKEN DURING THE PRE MEETING, AS ANY FORMAL ACTION SHALL ONLY OCCUR DURING THE MAIN MEETING. AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS? ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO ITEMS TO DISCUSS WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SKIP EXECUTIVE. WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE IN THE REGULAR MEETING. AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL SECOND. OH. ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 6:30. THIS COUNCIL NEED A BREAK OR RECESS. OR CAN WE JUST GO STRAIGHT? STRAIGHT INTO IT? WOULD YOU LIKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS, AND WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT 6:40. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.