>> THIS WILL TAKE US INTO OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
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THE TIME IS 6:57.I CALL IT TO ORDER. MISS DAVID GRAVES.
>> THIS WILL TAKE US ON VACATION BY STANFY.
>> DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND FOR ALL YOU'VE GIVEN US.
YOU ARE A GOOD AND GRACIOUS GOD, AND WE THANK YOU, ESPECIALLY ALWAYS, FOR BEING ABLE TO LIVE IN A FREE NATION WHERE WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND DISCUSS OUR CITY AND HOW TO HELP EACH OTHER.
LORD, ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, WHEN WE CELEBRATE PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL TOWARD MEN, WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL BRING PEACE IN THIS CITY.
THAT YOU WILL PROTECT THOSE WHO PROTECT US, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE, AND OUR FIRE AND EMTS.
LORD, YOU WILL BE WATCHFUL OVER OUR CHILDREN AS THEY GO TO SCHOOL, AS THEY SEEK TO GROW UP IN A COMMUNITY THAT THEY CAN BE PROUD OF.
LORD, I THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNCIL, FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON, AND FOR THEIR DILIGENCE TO SEEK WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I JUST PRAY YOUR DIVINE WISDOM FOR THEM.
IT'S IN JESUS' NAME THAT I PRAY. AMEN.
>> THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR PUBLIC APPEARANCE, MS. COOK.
>> THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS SET ASIDE FOR
[F. PUBLIC APPEARANCE]
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT IS NOT FORMALLY SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA AS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC MEETING APPEARANCE CARD PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO OR DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS PORTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS ON SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTLY, NOT CITY STAFF, OR OTHERWISE BE COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL, AND CORDIAL, AND REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL, DEMEANING, INSULTING, THREATENING, OR DISPARAGING REMARKS TO MAINTAIN DECORUM AND SUPPORT THE EFFICIENT AND ORDERLY FLOW OF THE MEETING.
>> FIRST, IT WILL BE KEN SGMAN.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE WARE QUARTER AVERAGING ISSUE THAT MARIS ABBAR HAS BROUGHT FORWARD.
I HOPE THAT TONIGHT, YOU GUYS WILL DO THE RIGHT THING, AND EXACTLY AS HE SAID, IT WAS REMOVED PROPERLY OR LEGALLY, AND I HOPE YOU'LL DO THE RIGHT THING AND REMOVE IT, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SO BE DONE.
I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT IS FURTHER EVIDENCE OF THE CITY TRYING TO COVER UP THIS ISSUE.
DURING THE BUDGET RETREAT, YOU WERE PRESENTED WITH THIS ISSUE, AND IT WAS TRIED TO PASS.
YOU WERE PRESENTED WITH THE IDEA THAT YOU SHOULD OFFER RESIDENTS THE CHOICE OF WHETHER THEY SHOULD REQUEST A REFUND OR NOT, AND THAT A SUMMARY REVIEW OF A HANDFUL OF ACCOUNTS RESULTED IN VERY NOMINAL REFUNDS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED.
WE KNOW NOW THAT THAT WAS UNTRUE.
I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I'VE HEARD MANY TIMES FROM THIS COUNCIL, TRUST THE EXPERT.
WE NEED YOU GUYS TO BE THE EXPERTS.
WE NEED YOU GUYS TO DO THE HARD WORK AND LOOK INTO THINGS, AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT TILL RESIDENTS EXPLODE YOUR EMAIL BOXES. THANK YOU.
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>> THANK YOU. THERESA MCGUINNES.
>> THERESA MCGUINNES. I LIVE IN ARCADIA FARMS. STEVE DEFFIBAUGH, I LOVE YOUR SHIRT.
MAYOR ESCOBAR, OVERALL, I HAVE TO SAY I THINK YOU'RE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB.
I WANT TO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S STUFF THAT HAS TO BE PUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT, AT LEAST, WE ALL KNOW A LITTLE BIT WHAT'S GOING ON.
SORRY. BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT I WAS AT THE HOME RULE CHARTER COMMISSION MEETING WHEN YOU HAD DOWNPLAYED YOUR NEED FOR A VOTE.
I TRULY BELIEVE YOU NEED A VOTE BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT SO MUCH, AND YOU'RE OUT THERE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE YOU STAND, BUT THE TRUTH IS, WE HAVE TO SEE A VOTE FOR IT.
I THINK THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU GO BACK AND YOU MAY HAVE, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION, GO BACK AND FIGHT FOR A VOTE AND SAY, HEY, I BELIEVE YOU NEED A VOTE.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD HELP NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL IN GENERAL, BUT IT WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THE MAYOR DEFINITELY NEEDS A VOTE.
THEN, WHILE I'M ON THE TOPIC OF THAT, I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE CITY SECRETARY SHOULD BE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY COUNCIL, JUST LIKE THE MANAGER AND THE ATTORNEY, AND THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE ABLE TO REMOVE ANY EMPLOYEE FROM THE CITY WITH A MAJORITY VOTE.
I'M ASKING YOU NOT TO WASTE THE OPPORTUNITY.
THERE IS A WHOLE COMMITTEE THAT IS DEDICATED TO UPDATING AND STRENGTHENING OUR CITY CHARTER.
AS THE MAYOR, I'M SURE THEY WILL SERIOUSLY DEBATE ANY RECOMMENDATION YOU MAKE.
AGAIN, I HAVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN [INAUDIBLE] IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED.
THE CITY HAD INTENTIONALLY NOT INITIATED IT IN 2023.
THE CHOICE TO INTENTIONALLY DISREGARD IT DOESN'T JUST VIOLATE RESIDENTS' TRUST; BUT IT WAS INTENTIONAL FRAUD.
THE COUNCIL HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE ACTION.
THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO CHOICES HERE.
THE FIRST CHOICE IS TO COMPLETELY VOID THAT WHOLE ORDINANCE, AND THAT IS THE PREFERRED CHOICE.
OR TWO, IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO STEP UP, HIRE AN OUTSIDE LAW FIRM, AND START A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AM ALL FOR NUMBER 1.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU UP THERE IS TO REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS AND NOT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION.
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY HAS TRUSTWORTHY AND KNOWLEDGEABLE LEADERSHIP.
JUST TO REITERATE, THE DISCUSSION TO INITIATE WATER WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING WAS ALREADY DONE IN 2023.YOU CANNOT GO BACK IN TIME AND TRY AND REDBATE IT.
TODAY, THE COUNCIL CAN FINALLY PUT IT TO REST BY VOTING ON OPTION 1.
PLEASE MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY.
>> MAYOR. COUNCIL, DAN ELLIS, ARCADIA FARM, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MAXINE ELLIS.
HOPEFULLY, BY NOW, ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE WATCHED THE LAST HOME RULES CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.
AT THE LAST HOME RULES CHARTER MEETING, SHE RECOMMENDED THAT ADDING AN ITEM TO THE CITY MANAGER WOULD PROVIDE A QUARTERLY KPI METRIC REVIEW FROM EACH DEPARTMENT.
IT WAS VERY UPSETTING THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CAROLYN DAVID GRACE STATED THAT THE COUNCIL IS JUST THERE FOR CEREMONIAL AND STATED A FEW OTHER UPSETTING ITEMS. PROPRIETARY IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT SHE MEANT BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD NOT BE IN RECEIPT OF CONFIDENTIAL OR PROPRIETARY INFORMATION ON BEHALF OF OTHER ENTITIES.
THEY CAN, HOWEVER, MAINTAIN NEGOTIATIONS CONFIDENTIAL.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE INFORMATION IS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.
THEN IT COULD GET IT COULD GO TO THE PARTY THAT IS NEGOTIATING AGAINST, AND THEY COULD USE IT AGAINST THE CITY.
ALSO, SHE IS WRONG AS SECTION 2.01 OF OUR CHARTER STATES THAT WE ARE A COUNCIL-MANAGED GOVERNMENT.
HOME RULES JUST MEANS THAT THE CITY HAS A CHARTER THAT GOVERNS ITSELF RATHER THAN RELYING SOLELY ON STATE LAW.
ALSO, UNDER SECTION 3.01, IT STATES THAT THE MAYOR IS THE GOVERNMENTAL AND CEREMONIAL HEAD OF THE CITY.
BUT THE SECTION DOES NOT SAY HIS ROLE IS ONLY CEREMONIAL, NOR DOES THAT SECTION OR ANY OTHER SECTION SAY THAT THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR SERVE IN A CEREMONIAL CAPACITY.
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FURTHER IN SECTION 4.01, IT SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR HIRES AND FIRES THE CITY MANAGER WHO RUNS THE CITY, BUT THE CITY MANAGER SERVES AT THE WILL OF THE CITY COUNCIL.THE CHARTER LATER STATES THAT THE COUNCIL CAN ASK QUESTIONS OR INVESTIGATE MATTERS DIRECTLY WITH THE STAFF OR GIVE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER.
ALL THESE SECTIONS CLEARLY SHOW THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR ARE NOT THERE JUST TO BE CEREMONIAL AND RUBBER-STAMP OR TO LET IT.
THE EMPLOYEES RUN THE CITIES AS THEY SEE FIT.
WHAT IS THE POINT IF EACH OF YOU ARE SITTING UP THERE OR ALL JUST CEREMONIAL, AS WELL AS WHY THE HRC REVIEW COMMITTEE IS CONSIDERING ADDING COUNCIL AND MAYOR COMPENSATION? EACH OF YOU SHOULD CONSIDER READING THE HANDBOOK OF THE MAYOR'S COUNCIL MEMBERS CREATED BY THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE.
I BELIEVE SHE HAS A COPY FOR YOU GUYS, IF YOU NEED IT.
SHE DID WANT ME TO READ A PARAGRAPH FROM PAGE 24, OFFICE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE CITY LEGISLATIONS.
THEIR PRIMARY DUTY IS POLICY MAKING, WHICH INCLUDES IDENTIFYING THE NEEDS OF LOCAL RESIDENTS, FORMULATING PROGRAMS TO MEET CHANGING REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND MEASURING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF ONGOING MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
MAXINE FEELS THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU CANNOT SERVE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND WANT TO BE JUST CEREMONIAL, YOU SHOULD JUST STAND UP AND WALK AWAY.
CAN I GET ABOUT ANOTHER [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, I GUESS 30 MORE SECONDS.
>> YOU HAVE TO TEND TO BY GOING.
>> THERE NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE CITY WAS AWARE OF THIS LAW REGARDING THE TIMELINE FOR POSTING AGENDAS DUE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING BEING CANCELED.
THERE ARE THREE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE CONSTANT AGENDA, WHICH MEANS THAT IF THE CITY COUNCIL IS, AS MENTIONED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST THERE FOR CEREMONIAL, THE ITEMS WILL GET NO REVIEW AND JUST APPROVED.
I HOPE OUR COUNCIL DOES THE RIGHT THING AND PULLS THE THREE ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND REVIEWS EACH ITEM SINCE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WAS NOT ABLE TO REVIEW.
CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR, REMEMBER, WE ARE A HOME RULES CHARTER CITY, WHICH MEANS YOU WILL REPRESENT US.
YOU ARE NOT CEREMONIAL, AND THE CITY STAFF DOES NOT MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE CITY.
>> SAME THING. THANK YOU. SWARD.
JUST 26 DAYS AGO, ON NOVEMBER 12, I SENT AN EMAIL TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, MISS GRAVES, MR. WASHINGTON, MR LONG, REGARDING THE UNACCEPTABLE PROCEDURAL BREACH IN THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 2024-0-9-16-02.
THAT EMAIL DETAILS HOW CRITICALLY LEGALLY ADOPTED LANGUAGE PERTAINING TO WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING WTA WAS STRUCK FROM A CITY ORDINANCE ON SEPTEMBER 16, 2024, WITHOUT A COUNCIL VOTE OR PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
THE EMAIL POSES THESE TWO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, MISS GRAVES, MR. LONG, AND MR. WASHINGTON.
WERE YOU CONCERNED THAT YOU VOTED FOR AN ORDINANCE WHERE STAFF FAILED TO PRESENT THE CRITICAL ACTION OF STRIKING THE WA LANGUAGE? TWO, DO YOU PUBLICLY SUPPORT A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THIS ERROR AND COMMIT TO A PROCESS TO ENSURE SUCH NON-TRANSPARENT ACTIONS NEVER OCCUR AGAIN? COUNCIL MEMBERS, MISS GRAVES, MR. LONG, AND MR. WASHINGTON, I STAND HERE TONIGHT, 26 DAYS LATER.
THE ANSWER I HAVE RECEIVED IS NOTHING BUT SILENCE.
YOUR SILENCE, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS NOT A NEUTRAL ACT.
IT IS A PROFOUND FAILURE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT COME WITH YOUR OFFICE.
WHEN A RESIDENT FORMALLY DEMANDS ANSWERS REGARDING THE INTEGRITY OF OUR LAWMAKING, AND INTEGRITY ALREADY DEEMED QUESTIONABLE ENOUGH FOR THE MAYOR TO SEEK LEGAL CLARIFICATION ON NOVEMBER 10, YOUR DUTY IS TO RESPOND.
THE SILENCE WE HAVE WITNESSED IS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT YOU ALL EITHER DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INTERESTS OF THE TAXPAYING RESIDENTS WHO ELECTED YOU OR THAT YOU LACK THE BACKBONE TO CHALLENGE THE CITY ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY COMMIT A GROSS PROCEDURAL ERROR.
THIS DISMISSAL OF A SERIOUS PROCEDURAL INQUIRY IS A SLAP IN THE FACE OF EVERY RESIDENT WHO TRUSTS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO PROTECT THE SANCTITY OF OUR ORDINANCES.
YOU WERE ELECTED TO PROTECT OUR INTERESTS, NOT TO IGNORE BREACHES OF PROTOCOL THAT AFFECT EVERY UTILITY BILL IN THIS CITY.
YOUR CONTINUED REFUSAL TO RESPOND PUTS YOU ALL CLEARLY ON RECORD AS UNWILLING TO STAND UP FOR TRANSPARENCY OR CHALLENGE ADMINISTRATIVE FAILURES.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, MISS GRAVES, MR. LONG,
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AND MR. WASHINGTON, IF YOU ALL CONTINUE TO REMAIN SILENT ON THIS DOCUMENTED ADMINISTRATIVE FAILURE, THEN THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY WILL HAVE THEIR ANSWER THAT YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DELIVER THE STRONG, ACCOUNTABLE LEADERSHIP WE ELECTED YOU TO PROVIDE. THANK YOU.MY GRIEVANCE TODAY IS WITH MISS DAVID GRAVES.
I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY TO YOU.
YOU'RE A WELL EDUCATED WOMAN, AND AS ONE MYSELF, I'M REALLY BAFFLED THAT YOU THINK THAT THIS IS A CEREMONIAL POSITION.
CEREMONIAL POSITION IS ONE THAT'S ENTITLED ONLY, AND IT'S VIA APPOINTMENT.
YOU GUYS ARE ALL THE FINAL FAIL SAFE BEFORE THINGS GET ENACTED IN THIS CITY.
IT GOES EVERYWHERE FROM WATER TO THE BUSINESSES THAT COME HERE.
THAT'S A JOB, AND THAT TELLS ME WHAT YOU REALLY THINK OF THIS JOB.
ALSO, YOUR TAKE ON THE FLOOD STUDY WAS EQUALLY ALARMING.
THE CITY'S LIABILITY, THE STATE OF BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY BY LAW IS TO PROTECT ITS CONSTITUENTS, WHICH YOU SHOULD KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE A CLINICAL RESEARCH, QUALITY AND REGULATORY SPECIALIST, WHO SPECIALIZE IN ASSURING THE ETHICAL CONDUCT OF CLINICAL RESEARCH AND SAFEGUARDING THE RIGHTS AND WELFARE OF RESEARCH PARTICIPANTS.
YOU NEED TO USE THAT SKILL SET HERE.
IT'S YOUR JOB TO ENSURE THAT OUR RIGHTS AND WELFARE ARE PROTECTED. THAT'S YOUR JOB.
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT DOESN'T OCCUR, THAT BOOK THAT I SUBMITTED.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. IT'S CALLED AMERICA'S NIGHTMARE.
IT'S MY STORY ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE OF THE BUILDER THAT YOU ALL ALLOWED TO BUILD HERE, AND WHO IS BUILDING HERE STILL, SELLING MOLDY HOMES WITHOUT CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY.
I'M TEACHING PEOPLE THE TRUTH BECAUSE OF THE NEGLIGENCE THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE ACTIONS THAT OCCURRED HERE HISTORICALLY ON THIS COUNCIL.
IT'S YOUR STATEMENTS THAT MAKE IT PRETTY EVIDENT AS TO WHY THESE FAILURES OCCURRED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I KNOW THAT YOU'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE A WOMAN OF FAITH.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT JESUS ASKED WHAT HIS LIABILITY WAS BEFORE HE DID ANYTHING FOR THE POOR AND THE SICK.
HE JUST DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
WE ALL START THESE MEETINGS OFF WITH A PRAYER EVERY TIME.
THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PORTION OF THE COUNCIL AND OF MOST OF AMERICA.
NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER VERY OFTEN THAT WE NEED TO BE FOLLOWING THOSE THINGS THAT THE BIBLE TELLS US TO FOLLOW.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF EVERYBODY TOOK IT SERIOUSLY BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME GET AFFECTED.
MY FAMILY IS SICK STILL, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS THAT HAPPENED HERE.
THIS IS NOT A CEREMONIAL POSITION.
THIS IS NOT A THING THAT YOU DO SOMETIMES.
IT IS A REAL JOB, AND WE NEED YOU TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.
FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I GET STARTED, COULD SOMEONE CHANGE THE CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS SO THAT WE COULD SEE MORE THAN JUST YOUR FOREHEADS? IT'S ANNOYING.
FIRSTI WANT TO THANK SHANNON STEVENS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR INCLUDING THE TRAILS OF RIVERSTONE AS PART OF THE SLEIGH BELLS AND SIRENS EVENT THAT WILL BE HAPPENING HERE AS PART OF A CHRISTMAS EVENT HERE IN TOWN.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN BEN LONG, WHO HAS BEEN HELPING US ALONG WITH TOMMY MAPP AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE BEEN HELPING US WITH TAKING ON
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A RESPONSIBILITY OF CLEANING UP OUR CREEK IN THE TRAILS AT RIVERSTONE.UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH, WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT IN THAT PROCESS, THE PRICE HAS MORE THAN QUADRUPLED, AND WE WILL BE ACTUALLY CREATING A PROBLEM, WHICH WE'LL BE MEETING WITH TOMMY AT, AND BASICALLY, YOU WILL LET YOU KNOW UP FRONT, WE WILL BE CLEARING UP THE CREEK BED AT THE TOP AND CLEARING UP THE CREEK BED AT THE BOTTOM.
BUT IN THE MIDDLE, OUR PROPERTY ONLY NARROWS TO OUR SIDEWALK, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST POINT.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY WHERE THE CREEK IS.
WE WILL BE CREATING POSSIBLY MORE PROBLEM THAN WE'RE ACTUALLY RESOLVING, AND WE'LL NEED THE COOPERATION OF THOSE PROPERTY MEMBERS AS WELL.
ALONG WITH THAT, SO BASICALLY, THERE'S 32 ACRES WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
IT'S NOW GOING TO COST US ABOUT 98,000 TO HAVE THAT WHOLE CREEK BED CLEARED UP.
ALL THE SHOPPING BASKETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TAKEN OUT OF IT.
NOW, LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON IS, FIRST OF ALL, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT CHANGES THAT YOU ARE MAKING IN THE WATER SEWER BILLS.
AS I PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY BEFORE, WE HAVE 12 METERS, AND ONLY ONE OF THEM IS ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO SOMETHING THAT HAS SEWER IN IT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING $900 A MONTH FOR SEWER SERVICE FOR TWO TOILETS THAT ARE ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN DURING THE WINTER AND NOT BEING USED AT ALL.
WE'RE STILL IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF OUR BILL PAYING $900 A MONTH FOR SERVICE WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING.
I'M WONDERING, WILL THE CITY BE CONSIDERING, AND I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT THEY PROVIDE SOME RECOURSE TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PAYING THESE HIGH FEES FOR RESPECTFULLY NO SERVICE.
WHETHER IT'S A CREDIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD GIVE THAT A CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS, ABOUT $900 A MONTH.
I CAN GIVE YOU 10 MORE SECONDS.
>> SORRY. WE'RE USING ABOUT $17 WORTH OF WATER AND PAYING $900 FOR SEWER SERVICES.
HOPEFULLY SOMETHING CAN BE ADDRESSED TO A RECOURSE BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S NOT HAPPENING JUST TO US, AND THAT'S IT.
[G. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
TAKE US TO ITEM G, MS. COOK.>> ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
>> I'M SORRY. THAT'S MISS DAVID. I APOLOGIZE.
>> THAT'S OKAY. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST FOR TODAY, DECEMBER 8.
STOP BY JIM CALDWELL SENIOR COMMUNITY PARK AND DECEMBER 16, FROM 4:00-7:30 PM FOR A VERY MERRY CHILLY CHRISTMAS.
BUNDLE UP AND JOIN US FOR A HOLY JOLLY EVENING FILLED WITH WARM MERRY CRAFTS AND COMMUNITY FUN.
SANTA'S MAILBOX HAS OFFICIALLY ARRIVED IN PRINCETON.
VISIT ANY OF THE PARTICIPATING LOCATIONS TO WRITE YOUR LETTER AND SEND IT OFF TO THE NORTH POLE BY DECEMBER 16TH.
MAKE SURE YOUR ADDRESS IS ON IT TO RECEIVE A SPECIAL REPLY FROM SANTA.
DROP OFF LOCATIONS INCLUDE PARKS AND REC OFFICE, LOUIS NELSON PUBLIC LIBRARY, PRINCETON MUNICIPAL CENTER.
SANTA CLAUS IS TRADING IN HIS SLEIGH FOR A FIRE TRUCK.
THE PRINCETON FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL ESCORT SANTA THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, AS HE SPREADS HOLIDAY CHEER, WAVES TO FAMILIES, AND RINGS IN THE SEASON.
LEARN MORE AT THE CITY'S WEBSITE, SLEIGH BELLS AND SIRENS ON THE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. THANK YOU.
>> I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE VETERANS OF FEIGN WARS POST FOR THIS PAST WEEKEND, THEIR EVENT THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY OPERATION FRONTLINE WARRIORS AND FRESH POINT.
THIS WAS THE FOURTH ANNUAL FOOD BOX DISTRIBUTION THAT WAS HELD AT SOUTHERD MIDDLE SCHOOL.
VETERANS OF FEIGN WAR POST 9167 PUT ON A GREAT COMMUNITY SERVICE THIS PAST WEEKEND.
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I WANT TO SAY THEY CALCULATED ABOUT 600 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OF VOLUNTEERS WERE THERE.MOST OF WHICH WERE THE YOUTH FROM OUR SCHOOLS, WHICH WAS AN AMAZING THING.
AN ENTIRE SCOUT TROOP SHOWED UP.
BUNCH OF STUDENTS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL SHOWED UP AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF VFW MEMBERS ALSO WERE PRESENT.
IT WAS REALLY NEAT TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 1,600 OR SO BOXES OF FOOD WERE DISTRIBUTED OVER ABOUT A THREE HOUR PERIOD OUT THERE IN THE COLD.
EVERYBODY WAS IN JACKETS AND BENIES, AND IT WAS A VERY GOOD EVENT.
IT SHOWED A LOT OF COMMUNITY SPIRIT, AND I APPRECIATE ALSO AARON FOR SUPPORTING THE MARKETING ON THAT AND HELPED SPREAD THE WORD FOR THE VETERANS AT THE VFW TO HELP MAKE THIS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS THE BIGGEST DISTRIBUTION YET.
ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, AND I BELIEVE I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF THE COMMUNITY HERE, WE THANK THE OPERATION FRONTLINE WARRIORS FOUNDATION.
WE THANK THE VFW LOCAL POST 9167 AND FRESH POINT.
THEY'RE THE PROVIDERS OF THE FOOD AND ALL THE BOXES.
IT STARTED WITH A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS IN ADDISON, STARTING WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, PACKAGING UP ALL THAT FRESH FOOD, AND THEN A GROUP OF LOCAL VOLUNTEERS ON SATURDAY TO HAND IT OUT TO A WHOLE CHAIN OF OTHER VOLUNTEERS THAT TOOK IT ALL OVER OUR COMMUNITY AND LOCAL AREA TO VARIOUS GROUPS TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT FOOD GOT SPREAD OUT THERE TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT THE MOST. THANK YOU.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ALSO A COMMENT ABOUT THE PRINCETON FIRE DEPARTMENT FIRE ASSOCIATION DOING THE TOYS FOR TOTS FILL THE TRUCK EVENT THIS LAST FRIDAY.
TOYS FOR TOTS IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
THROUGHOUT COLLIN COUNTY, WE ARE IN A CHALLENGE WITH ROCKWALL COUNTY FROM COLLIN COUNTY.
BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL PICKUP OR DROP OFF LOCATIONS HERE WITHIN THE CITY, AND I'D ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO DO THAT.
ALSO, IT'S GETTING COLD OUTSIDE.
WE HAVE LOTS OF CHILDREN THAT DON'T HAVE COATS.
THERE'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS HAVING A COAT DRIVE.
I BELIEVE IT'S ON, IT CAN'T GET THINK THAT DATE TO THE DUTCH BROTHERS.
BUT IT'S ON THE WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE TO BRING A NEW COAT AND DROP IT OFF THERE.
JUST REMINDER OF THE TOYS FOR TOTS, ALL THE TOYS COLLECTED HERE IN COLLIN COUNTY STAY IN COLLIN COUNTY.
>> I HAVE SOMETHING. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE MY FAMILY USUALLY COMPETES OVER WHO CAN GET ME THE BEST BOOK FOR CHRISTMAS, AND I THINK THE ORDINANCES IS GOING TO BE LIKE THE WINNER THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GETTING THIS FOR ME.
>> I'LL SAY ONE LAST THING BEFORE.
I JUST WANT TO THANK STEVE FOR HIM VOLUNTEERING BECAUSE THIS IS MR. SANTA CLAUS.
THIS IS PRINCETON SANTA CLAUS.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME FOR ALWAYS BEING THAT PERSON.
WHEN TO COME DOWN TO THE TOYS FOR TOTS, AND TO COME DOWN TO OUR PICTURE WITH EVE WITH SANTA CLAUS THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS VOLT VOLUNTEER FOR THAT.
I ALSO WANTED TO JUST GIVE A THANK YOU TO OUR EVENT STAFF, PARKS AND REC, PUBLIC WORKS, EVERYONE FOR OUR EVENT THIS PAST SATURDAY, THE NORTH POLE CHRISTMAS.
IT WAS CHILI, AND COAL, NOT CHILI. THAT'S NEXT WEEK.
I SAW QUITE A FEW FOLKS OUT THERE HAVING SOME FUN, INCLUDING MISS TODD HERE.
SHE HAD QUITE THE BLAST AND THE SILENT DISCO THERE.
BUT ALSO, STEVE WAS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, GREETING KIDS AND SO FORTH.
OF COURSE, THE DRONE SHOW AND FIRE WORK SHOW WAS AWESOME AS WELL.
JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, AND ALSO TO AARON AND THE MARKETING TEAM, THE MARIA POST.
KUDOS FOR THE MARIA POST. IT WAS CLASSIC.
>> NEXT IS TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, MS. COOK.
[H. CONSENT AGENDA]
>> ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS THE COUNCIL MEMBER SO REQUEST.
IN WHICH EVENT, THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA.
>> I WOULD MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEMS H4 AND H11.
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WE'LL BE MOVING A EXECUTIVE SESSION TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM K, PUBLIC HEARING.
>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC MEETING APPEARANCE CARD PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
UPON BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR, THE PERSON MAY SPEAK OR PRESENT EVIDENCE RELEVANT TO THE MATTER BEING HEARD.
THE PERSON MAY SPEAK WITHOUT FIRST BEING RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR.
SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
ANYONE WISHING AT A PUBLIC HEARING SHALL ONLY SPEAK ABOUT MATTERS OR PRESENT EVIDENCE THAT'S RELEVANT TO THE ITEM UNDER CONSIDERATION.
ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTLY, NOT CITY STAFF OR OTHERWISE, BE COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL, AND CORDIAL, AND REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL, DEMEANING, INSULTING, THREATENING, OR DISPARAGING REMARKS AS TO MAINTAIN DECORUM AND SUPPORT THE EFFICIENT AND ORDERLY FLOW OF THE MEETING. K1.
>> GRANT, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO JUST TO HELP FOR ITEM L19.
I THINK I'M GOING TO GO OUT OF ORDER.
>> SORRY. ALSO, DO THE ACTIONS PERTAIN INTO EXECUTIVE AS WELL BEFORE WE GO INTO THE REST OF THE MEETING AS WELL?
>> YOU TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK INTO EXECUTIVE?
>> NO. JUST THE ACTIONS PERTAINING INTO EXECUTIVE.
>> WE CAN DO THE ACTION. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO THE ACTIONS ONCE WE COME BACK OUT OF THE ACTION.
>> THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR ACTUAL REGULAR AGENDA,
[L1. 2025-313 Consider approval for land proposal for the Princeton Public Safety project and take appropriate action. Presented by Princeton Police Department]
STARTING WITH L1, MS. COOK.>> CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR LAND PROPOSAL FOR THE PRINCETON PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION PRESENTED BY THE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT?
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. AND COUNSEL, TIFFANY WEST, PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HIT ON TWO THINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LAND, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE ACTUAL PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX.
>> ORIGINALLY, WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX, WE WERE LOOKING AT THREE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.
CORPORATE DRIVE AT MYRICK, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE EDC, THE 300 BLOCK OF HIGHWAY 380, ALSO KNOWN AS OUR CURRENT TRAINING FACILITY IN GUN RANGE AND THEN LAND THAT THE CITY HAD AT BEACHAM AND MONTE CARLO NEAR FIRE STATION II.
ONCE WE PLAYED AROUND WITH THE LAND TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BEST FIT WITH THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX.
WE STARTED OUT AT MYRICK, WENT BACK TO THE OTHER TWO, AND WE'VE COME BACK TO MYRICK AGAIN, SO WE'VE MADE FULL CIRCLE.
BUT WITH THE WAY THAT THAT LAYOUT WORKS, AND THEN ALSO GOING WITH THE NEXT GEN CENTER, IT LOOKED LIKE THAT WAS OUR BEST OPTION.
IT ALLOWS US TO SHARE SOME COST SAVINGS AS FAR AS EFFICIENCY, UTILITIES, TRAFFIC STUDIES, PLANNING, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND IT PUTS US IN A HUB.
WHERE THE CITY'S AT AS A MAIN ENTRANCE.
RECENTLY, WE WORKED WITH JIM AND THE EDC AND HAVE COME UP WITH A LAND PROPOSAL, WHICH WAS ANYA'S PACKETS FOR TONIGHT FOR A 30 YEAR CONTRACT WITH A YEARLY LEASE ON THAT PROPERTY.
THIS WOULD BE THE NEW LOCATION FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX.
WE'RE LOOKING TONIGHT FOR YOU ALL'S APPROVAL ON THAT PROPOSAL AND FOR THE LOCATION OF THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX FOR BOTH POLICE AND FIRE ADMIN.
Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOCATIONS OR ANYTHING OF THAT?
>> YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO GO TO THE CORPORATE DRIVE ON CORPORATE DRIVE. CORRECT.
UP ON THE SCREEN NOW, IT SHOWS IN THE IMAGE THE RIGHT.
THAT'S JUST A CONCEPT DRAWING, BUT IT SHOWS THE MAIN DRIVE COMING IN.
WE WOULD BE OFF TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE REC CENTER AND THEN YOU WOULD GO STRAIGHT IN TO THE NEW REC CENTER.
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>> Y'ALL WOULD HAVE STILL THE SECURED PARKING FOR THE OFFICERS?
>> IT'S GOING TO FACE ON THE BACK SIDE OF THAT BUILDING AND GO UP TO THE NEXT PROPERTY LINE THAT'S JUST NORTH OF IT.
>> WITH THAT THAT SECURE PARKING, WOULD IT BE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SIZE OR DOES THAT GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE MORE SPACE BACK THERE?
>> IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT LARGER.
WE'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION NOT ONLY THE CITY FLEET THAT WE HAVE FOR THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE PERSONAL VEHICLES THAT BELONG TO THOSE OFFICERS THAT ARE TRADING OFF SHIFTS.
IT ALLOWS FOR THE SHIFT CHANGE TO BE ACCOMMODATED AND EVERYTHING, PLUS CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES.
>> WHAT ABOUT THAT MONSTER TRUCK? DO WE HAVE SPACE THERE FOR THAT?
>> YES. THERE WILL BE AN EXTRA WIDE SPACE FOR THAT.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS EVEN HAS BEEN CONSIDERED OR NOT, BUT IN THAT AREA, SINCE YOU GUYS ARE BUILDING THE FACILITY, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE, LIKE, A LITTLE SPACE FOR YOUR DOG TO HAVE EXERCISE AND SOME TIME? THEY DESERVE THEIR OWN SPACE, TOO, YOU KNOW?
>> YES. HE DOES HAVE A KENNEL HERE.
IT VERY MUCH WAS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, BUT WE'VE MADE IT WORK.
BUT YES, THERE WILL BE AN OUTSIDE AREA FOR HIM AND ALSO AN AREA FOR HIM TO BE BATHED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
HE'S CARED FOR BETTER THAN SOME OF US, BUT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE STILL HAS ALL THAT ABILITY, PLUS A KENNEL, FOR IF NEAR HOOD IS IN TRAINING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT HE'S GOT SOMEWHERE THAT HE CAN GO OTHER THAN THE CAR OR THE KENNEL OUTSIDE? HE'LL HAVE AN INDOOR SPACE AS WELL.
>> I THINK IT'S A GREAT LOCATION, AND JUST THE WAY THAT WE'RE PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY SPECTACULAR ONCE IT'S ALL DONE.
NO ONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH THE LAND USE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L1.
>> WE HAVE A SECOND. MOTION PASSES 7-0.
THIS WILL TAKE US TO L19, MS. COOK.
[L19. 2025-12-08-R10 Consider approving Resolution No. 2025-12-08-R10, awarding a contract to Brinkley Sargent Wiginton Architects, Inc. for professional architecture and design services for the City’s public safety building and allocating funds in the not-to-exceed amount of $4,243,022.00 for the project; and take appropriate action.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-1208, AWARDING A CONTRACT TO BRINKLEY SERGEANT WINTON ARCHITECTS, BSW, FOR PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE CITY'S PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS AND NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT $4,243,022.
FOR THE PROJECT, TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION PRESENTED BY THE PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND BRINKLEY SERGEANT MR. PRO T
>> MAYOR, COUNSEL, AGAIN, TIFFANY WEST PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
NOW THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING, IT'S WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BUILD? WE DID AN RFQ.
WE RECEIVED NINE PACKETS BACK.
WE BROUGHT IN ABOUT SEVEN OF THOSE AND ACTUALLY DID ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS WITH THEM.
WENT AND LOOKED AT SOME PROPERTIES, TALKED TO SOME OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE RECENTLY WORKED WITH SOME OF THESE TOP ARCHITECT FIRMS, AND WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THREE.
WE CAME OUT WITH BW ARCHITECTS, BSW ARCHITECTS AND GENSER ARCHITECTS.
THEN WE DUG A LITTLE FURTHER, DID SOME MORE HOMEWORK, INTERVIEWED THEM IN AGAIN.
WENT LOOKED AT SOME MORE FACILITIES, TALKED TO SOME MORE AGENCIES THAT HAVE RECENTLY USED THEM AND WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH BSW ARCHITECTS, WHICH IS BRINKLEY SERGEANT AND WIGINGTON.
TONIGHT, WE HAVE WITH US JIMMY PURDU AND GREG REID WITH BSW.
THEY'VE BEEN WITH US SINCE THEY TURNED IN THE RFQ.
THEY'VE GRACIOUSLY ANSWERED ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH US JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION ON OUR PART.
WITH THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY LEANED US TOWARDS THEM IS THE FACT THAT THEY PRIMARILY BUILD PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHEREAS THE OTHER TWO GO OUT IN OTHER AREAS AS WELL,
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WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT WITH THIS BUILDING.THERE ARE THINGS THAT JUST DO NOT ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE HAVE LAWS AND REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS TO DAILY, YEARLY, AND IT'S EVERYTHING IN THE BUILDING.
IT HAS TO DO WITH WHERE ROOMS ARE, INTERVIEW ROOMS, STORAGE LOCATIONS, HOW THEY'RE LOCKED DOWN, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WHEN WE TALKED TO SOME OF THESE OTHER COMPANIES, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND OF THAT DATA THAT WE NEEDED UNTIL WE GOT TO BRINKLEY SERGEANT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LISTED UP THERE THAT STOOD OUT TO US WITH THEM, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SGS AND THE TECH FORWARD SECURITY PART FOR THE ICC 500, WHICH IS THE SECURITY FEATURES OF THE BUILDING AND EVERYTHING INSIDE THAT HELP US MEET ALL OF OUR CGIS REQUIREMENTS.
WE ARE ALSO A RECOGNIZED DEPARTMENT.
WE GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT SOME OF THESE REGULATIONS ARE, AND THEY ARE ALSO A BEST PRACTICES RECOGNIZED ARCHITECT FIRM.
SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE TAKE THAT HIGHER LEVEL, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE THINGS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASES AND THE BUILDING OF THIS BUILDING, THAT WE MEET AND EXCEED THOSE REQUIREMENTS, NOT JUST FOR NOW, BUT FOR OUR GROWTH.
THIS ISN'T A BUILDING THAT WE JUST WANT TO MOVE INTO AND HOPE THAT IT WORKS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
THEY'VE WORKED WITH US ON IT, AND THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING WE NEED IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS ARE GOING TO BE ACCOMMODATED IN THIS BUILDING.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED HERE IN DALLAS.
IT'S NICE TO LITERALLY JUST HAVE THEM NEXT DOOR AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROJECT WITH THEM.
LIKE I SAID, THEIR TRACK RECORD WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE STATIONS, FIRE ADMIN, JUST SPOKE VOLUMES TO US.
THEY HAVE COME INTO AN AIA AGREEMENT WITH US THAT GOES OVER OUR PERCENTAGES, WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO MEET ALL OF OUR EXPECTATIONS ON THIS PROJECT.
THE NUMBERS FIT INTO OUR BUDGET.
WITH ALL THAT, WE HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM.
IN YOUR PACKETS, YOU HAD A COUPLE OF CONCEPT DRAWINGS SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE FIT THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
THEN EVEN ON THE SECOND SLIDE, THE VERY BOTTOM PICTURE WAS THEIR ORIGINAL CONCEPT FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.
WE FELT LIKE THEY COULD WORK WITH SOME OF THE DESIGN FEATURES FOR THE REC CENTER, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A UNIFIED FRONT OVER ON THAT AREA AS A HUB.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S AN AFTERTHOUGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION OR MAYBE A COMMENT.
I KNOW MCKINNEY, THEY DID THE SAME THING COMBINING A PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE AND THAT'S BEEN MANY YEARS AGO, AND I JUST WONDERED HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE THAT WOULDN'T END UP HAVING TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING SEPARATING.
>> WITH THAT, THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT THE FIRE ADMIN ONLY MAYBE BEING THERE TEMPORARY SEVERAL YEARS, OF COURSE, BUT MAYBE MOVING INTO A CENTRAL ADMIN OR WHERE THE TRAINING FACILITY IS OR A CENTRAL FIRE STATION OF SOME SORT, AT SOME POINT WHEN THEY CONTINUE TO GROW.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX WILL HAVE PHASES.
SO AT SOME POINT, WE'VE DESIGNED IT TO WHERE WHERE THE FIRE ADMIN IS COULD THEN POTENTIALLY BE AN EXPANSION TO CID, TO POLICE ADMIN, TO THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THEY DECIDE TO EVER MOVE ON TO A CENTRAL STATION OR A FIRE ADMIN FACILITY THAT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED AS WELL.
>> WILL IT BE DESIGNED THAT MAYBE IT CAN BE ELEVATED OR GO UP IN STORIES.
>> I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AT NAUSEUM WITH EACH OTHER AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE FOUND WHICH I THOUGHT WAS IMPRESSIVE WITH BSW WAS THAT THE LITTLE INTRICACIES, LIKE HOW DOORS ARE OPEN IN CERTAIN SPACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I WOULD HAVE NEVER ASSUMED HAD TO, YOU KNOW, BE SOMETHING AND TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE WENT THROUGH THIS.
I COMPLETELY TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT AS FAR AS USING THIS PARTICULAR NOT DEVELOPER ENGINEER FIRM.
THE AMOUNT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY, THIS IS THE COST TO DESIGN THE BUILDING.
>> YES. THAT IS YOUR DESIGN CONCEPT DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION DOCKS, BIDDING, AND ALL OF THEIR ADMIN DURING CONSTRUCTION.
>> WOW. YEAH, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SIT BACK AND NOT REALLY SAY ANYTHING.
I THINK TIFFANY IS ABSOLUTELY JUST DOING AN ABSOLUTE PHENOMENAL JOB.
SHE WAS ABLE TO HOLD THE PD DOWN.
AS YOU'LL KNOW, I'VE BEEN OFF FOR THE LAST BEST THREE WEEKS, BUT JUST MENTIONED ANOTHER AGENCY.
THEY WERE ALSO THE ONES THAT BUILT SELINA, POLICE DEPARTMENT, TOO, AND THEY ARE GETTING NATIONAL RECOGNITION NETS ALL THE WAY AROUND.
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SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE INTERESTS AND ALL THIS STUFF WHILE SO WHILE I WAS TALKING WITH CHIEF COLSON.HE WAS LOOKING AT THEY REDID THE CEILING.
WITHIN SELINA AS WELL TO MAKE IT SOME OF THE NATURAL OAK THAT WAS AROUND THAT AREA AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO SOME LITTLE TOUCHES AND TIDBITS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
WHILE WE WERE DOING THIS COMPARISON, SOME OF OUR NEEDS ACTUALLY CHANGED.
WE LEARNED THAT WE NEEDED TO PUT OUR DISPATCH CENTER WITHIN PHASE ONE.
THE REASON WHY I'M BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THIS MAN BACK BEHIND ME TO MY RIGHT, THAT IS MR. JIMMY PURDU.
HE'S BEEN A CHIEF FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS BEST PRACTICE ASSOCIATION TOO AS WELL.
HE KNOWS THE INS AND OUTS ON HOW TO BUILD THESE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, HOW TO BUILD THE DISPATCH CENTERS WITH INSIDE OF THERE.
HE'S BEEN AROUND CHIEF THE LONGER THAN NOT BEEN A COP.
HE JUST GOES TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT EXPERTISE AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT WE WILL HAVE IN HOUSE WORKING WITH AS HAND IN HAND.
I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION TO AS WELL.
>> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE MAKING IT SO YOU CAN BUILD BOTH UP AND OUT.
I THINK THAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF THE SPACE THAT YOU HAVE AND WITH THE MINDSET OF FUTURE GROWTH, SO THAT WE'RE NOT, FIVE, SIX YEARS FROM NOW LOOKING AT HAVING TO BUILD ANOTHER STATION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT ABILITY TO GROW.
I APPRECIATE THAT FORWARD THINKING MINDSET WHEN DESIGNING THIS.
>> THANK YOU. WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
THEY'VE WORKED WITH US TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT PHASES AND THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND ONE OF THOSE WAS DISPATCH, POTENTIALLY GOING INTO TWO, BUT WE'VE BROUGHT THAT INTO ONE BECAUSE IT'S A DIRE NEED THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
WE HAD TO READJUST A FEW THINGS, BUT POTENTIALLY GOING INTO TWO AND THREE, TAKING A JAIL ON, LIKE, A TEMPORARY HOLDING FACILITY, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY GO OUTWARDS JUST BECAUSE OF THE SECURITY OF IT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT ANY GROWTH THAT WE NEEDED TO GO UP FOR INTERNAL OFFICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE WILL HAVE THAT OPTION OR AN ABILITY TO.
CAN YOU, I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I WOULD LIKE THIS FOR THE PUBLIC ELABORATE ON THE DIFFERENCE IT'S GOING TO BE FOR WHEN WE HAVE MINORS COMING IN BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I KNOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT BIG DIFFERENCE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
>> THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE MANY OF THINGS THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH IN THE BACK AREA HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW HAD WE HAD SOMEONE WITH THE EXPERTISE OF DEALING WITH THESE THINGS, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP, OR WE JUST WENT WITH THE FLOW.
BUT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL WHEN WE BRING JUVENILES TO INTERVIEW THEM IN BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TWO INTERVIEW ROOMS IN THE BACK, AND THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
IF WE HAVE ADULTS IN ONE, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY PUT THE JUVENILES RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE POTENTIALLY USE OFFICES FOR THE ADULTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE A JUVENILE INTERVIEW ROOM HAS TO BE CERTIFIED THROUGH OUR COUNTY JUDGES.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE BY DOORS.
LUCKILY, OUR EXIT DOOR GOES INTO A SECURED PARKING LOT, SO THAT'S WHAT'S GIVEN BUT WE WILL TAKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO THE CONSIDERATION IN THIS NEW FACILITY THAT ONCE WE GET INTO THAT CID AREA, WHERE THE INTERVIEW ROOMS ARE, THEY WILL BE SEPARATED BY HALLWAYS, DOORWAYS, VESTIBULES.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THE ISSUES THAT WE CURRENTLY FACE EVERY DAY.
>> I HAD A NUMBER QUESTIONS. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> WITHOUT HATES OR DELAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L19.
>> ITEM MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.
>> WE'RE GOING TO JUMP ONE MORE INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA,
[L14. 2025-320 Consider approving a request for a fee waiver from Jeff Baker property owner at 229 Teakwood Drive; and take appropriate action.]
L14, MS. COOK.>> L14, CONSIDER APPROVING YOUR REQUEST FOR A FEE WAIVER FROM JEFF BAKER, PROPERTY OWNER AT 229 DRIVE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A FEE WAIVER FOR A ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CASE.
THE APPLICANT'S HOUSE IS BUILT IN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AND THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO ALLOW IT TO REDUCE THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT OR ALLOW THE HOUSE TO BE BUILT IN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT REQUEST WILL BE WORDED, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WHATEVER IS DONE WILL BE DONE THROUGH THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
FOR THAT REASON, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE COUNCIL WAIVE THE FEE FOR $350.
THE APPLICANT'S HERE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'D GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 2025 320 AS TO WAIVE THAT.
>> WE HAVE A SECOND. MOTION PASSES 7-0.
NOW WE CAN JUMP INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING, MS. COOK.
BEFORE WE GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING, I MIGHT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT LEAST ON TWO ITEMS TO DISCUSS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
>> THE FIRST TWO BULLET POINTS UNDER CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY.
>> THE TIME IS 7:49, AND THIS WILL TAKE US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION,
[I. EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]
AND THE TERMS OF CHAPTER 551 OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO A CLOSED SESION OR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING SECTION 551.071, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY.
AND WE'LL BE GOING TO EXECUTIVE FOR EAST RIDE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WHITE WING TRAIL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE TIME IS 8:30, AND THIS WILL TAKE US OUT OF EXECUTIVE.
WE WILL MOVE INTO ITEM K PUBLIC HEARINGS MS. COOK.
[K1. ORD-2025-12-08-02 Conduct a public hearing and consider approving Ordinance No. 2025-12-08-02 levying assessments for the costs of certain improvements in the Whitewing Trails Public Improvement District No. 2 Phase 3A and Phase 3B; fixing a charge and lien against all properties within Phase 3A and Phase 3B of the district, and the owners thereof; providing for the manner and method of collection of such assessments; making a finding of special benefit to property in Phase 3A and Phase 3B of the district; approving a service and assessment plan; providing a severability clause; and providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
>> CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE 2025 1208 02, LEVING ASSESSMENTS FOR THE COST OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS, IN THE WHITE WING TRAILS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2, PHASE 3A, AND 3B, FIXING A CHARGE AND LIEN AGAINST ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN PHASE 3A AND 3B OF THE DISTRICT, AND THE OWNERS THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR THE MANNER AND METHOD OF COLLECTION OF SUCH ASSESSMENTS, MAKING A FINDING OF SPECIAL BENEFIT TO PROPERTY PHASE 3A, 3B OF THE DISTRICT.
APPROVING A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, PROVIDING A SERVABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION BY MR JEFF GULBIS, BY HIS REPRESENTATIVE.
>> COUNSEL COOPER ANDERSON WITH THE LAW FIRM OF MCCALL PARKHURST AND HORTON, CITY'S BOND COUNCIL.
BACK IN I BELIEVE OCTOBER, COUNSEL APPROVED A COST DETERMINATION RESOLUTION, WHICH INCLUDED A PSAP, A PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, AND AUTHORIZED CITY STAFF TO GIVE AND PUBLISH NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED LATER.
ON JUNE 10TH 2019, CITY COUNCIL PASSED AND APPROVED A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE CREATION OF WHITE WING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 TO FINANCE THE COST OF CERTAIN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF PROPERTY IN THE PID, ALL OF WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF PRINCETON.
ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN LEVIED ON PHASES 1-2, AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF 3-6 OF THE DISTRICT AND BONDS WERE ISSUED TO FINANCE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE ATTACHED ASSESSMENT LEVEES ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE SECURITY FOR THE BOND SALE FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3A AND 3B TO FINANCE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THOSE PHASES.
THAT BOND IS NOT BEING SOLD TODAY, BUT WILL BE SOLD IN THE SPRING OF 2026.
I DON'T KNOW. HAS THE PUBLIC HEARING BEEN OPENED YET? GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
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>> ONCE YOUR PRESENTATION IS CONCLUDED, WE CAN.
>> THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE THAT'LL BE CONSIDERED COMPLETES THE PROCESS TO LEVY ASSESSMENTS ON IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3A AND IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3B.
IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3A CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 72.282 ACRES AND IS PROJECTED TO CONSIST OF 264 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3B CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 96.113 ACRES AND IS PROJECTED TO CONSIST OF 331 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.
THE ASSESSMENTS ARE DESCRIBED IN THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN THAT ACCOMPANIES THE ORDINANCE AND WHICH HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO COUNCIL.
NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PRINCETON HERALD AND ALSO MAILED TO THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE PID.
THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE APPROVES THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AS THE SERVICE PLAN FOR THE DISTRICT WHICH IS REQUIRED BY SECTION 372.013 OF THE PID ACT.
THE ASSESSMENT PLAN FOR THE DISTRICT IS REQUIRED BY SECTION 372.014 OF THE PID ACT, AND THE ASSESSMENT ROLE, WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE SAP FOR THE DISTRICT IS REQUIRED BY SECTION 372.016 OF THE PID ACT.
IMPROVEMENT AREA 3A CONSISTS OF 264 50 FOOT LOTS WITH THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT PER LOT BEING $2,045.93.
THE ESTIMATED FINISHED LOT VALUES AND BUILDOUT VALUES FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3A ARE $85,000 AND $425,000 RESPECTIVELY.
THE TOTAL BUILDOUT VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT AREA 3A IS ESTIMATED TO BE $112 MILLION.
IMPROVEMENT AREA 3B CONSISTS OF 205 50 FOOT LOTS AND 126 60 FOOT LOTS.
THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT PER 50 FOOT LOT IS $2,046 AND PER 60 FOOT LOT IS $2,407.06.
THE ESTIMATED FINISHED LOT VALUES AND BUILDOUT VALUES FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA 3B, 50 FOOT LOTS ARE $85,000 AND $425,000 RESPECTIVELY.
THE ESTIMATED FINISHED LOT VALUES AND BUILDOUT VALUES FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA 3B, 60 FOOT LOTS ARE $100,000 AND $500,000, RESPECTIVELY.
THE TOTAL BUILDOUT VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT AREA 3B IS ESTIMATED TO BE APPROXIMATELY $150 MILLION.
THESE TABLES IN THE PRESENTATION SHOW THE ASSESSMENT PER UNIT FOR 3A AND THE ESTIMATED TAX RATE EQUIVALENT PER UNIT FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA 3A FOR THE 50 FOOT LOTS.
THESE TABLES SHOW THE ASSESSMENT PER UNIT FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA 3B AND THE ESTIMATED TAX RATE EQUIVALENT PER UNIT FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA 3B FOR 60 FOOT AND 50 FOOT LOTS IN THIS PORTION.
IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ALL TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS I WILL OPEN UP.
THE TIME IS 8:36, AND THIS WILL OPEN UP OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
I BELIEVE, KEVIN HISS, ARE YOU SPEAKING ON ALL OF THEM? IF YOU WANT TO.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, MAYOR.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
AS I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, FIRST OF, HOW MANY OF ALL HAVE ACTUALLY WALKED AROUND THESE DEVELOPMENTS? I ACTUALLY I GOT THREE OF YOU, THREE WHO I WOULD, BEN, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT.
I WONDER HOW MUCH YOU HAVE SEEN THAT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT BY ME, AND I'M CURIOUS.
I KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY, COUNCILWOMAN TODD HAS PUSHED A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THAT I DID WHENEVER I WAS ON P&Z.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT NOT JUST ME, BUT RESIDENTS HAVE COME TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT AND BASICALLY BEG FOR Y'ALL TO ADDRESS WITH THESE PROPERTIES HAS BEEN IGNORED.
THE FENCES THAT BLEW DOWN STILL HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETELY FIXED.
THOSE RETAINING WALLS STILL HAVE JAG AND METAL STICKING OUT OF THEM.
THE FENCES THAT WERE BUILT ORIGINALLY ARE OUT OF CODE.
I BROUGHT THAT UP, NOBODY CARED.
NOBODY CARED THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE STILL SENT THE LAST I HEARD ABOUT IT WAS JUST BEFORE I RESIGNED FROM THE COMMISSION.
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THEY'RE STILL PISSED OFF ABOUT THIS.BOTH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, ESPECIALLY 3A, WATER COMING FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT IS TO A DIFFERENT WHITE WING DEVELOPMENT, DESTROYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IS SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN COMPLAINING TO YOU ALL FOR A DECADE ABOUT THIS.
A DECADE. GO WALK AROUND THAT HOUSE.
I'VE TALKED WITH SOME OF ALL ABOUT THAT HOUSE, AND I HEARD THINGS LIKE SHE GOT A SETTLEMENT, WHICH IS NOT THE FULL STORY.
IT'S IGNORING THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING SCREWED.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING SCREWED BY THE WATER COMING FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS? NOW, I'M TELLING YOU THAT OF THROUGHOUT, AM I SPEAKING ON ALL OF THEM? THIS ISSUE, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS IS GOING TO SHOW ITSELF A LOT MORE THAN WHAT I SAW.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE RETAINING WALLS AND HOMES THAT ARE BUILT ON GIANT SLOPES THAT ARE GOING TO FAIL, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START TO LOSE THEIR HOMES, THEIR PROPERTIES TO THE CREEK.
IT'S GOING TO RODE. IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
THE HOUSES HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN BUILT YET, OR THEY'RE JUST STARTING TO BE BUILT.
WHAT ABOUT A FEW YEARS FROM NOW? IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
GO LOOK AT IT TODAY, BEN. GO LOOK AT IT.
I'M TELLING YOU, THEY'RE FALLING APART.
THOSE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE LOST TO THE CREEK. A PORTIONS OF THEM.
>> I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER 30 SECONDS TO FINISH UP.
>> WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT'S RAPIDLY EVOLVING, AND I THINK A LOT OF THESE ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.
BUT A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT NOW. OR VERY LITTLE.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND BECAUSE Y'ALL THINK Y'ALL GET ENOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE COMPLAINING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT NOW AND THEIR HOUSE HAS FALLEN APART, DRAINAGE ISSUES.
WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE.
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A RAPIDLY EVOLVING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT'S DOING THINGS RIGHT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH MORE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.
IT IS ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT TACKLING THIS.
THINK ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT SPECIFIC TO THE PITS, BUT WE ARE THEY SHOULD BE FIXING THE HOMES, NOT JUST FOCUSING ON OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE HOMES THAT THEY'RE BUILDING THAT ARE NOT UP TO PAR.
IS ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? THE TIME IS 8:41.
THIS WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 1208 02.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND.
THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM Q2. MS. COOK.
[K2. ORD-2025-12-08-05 Conduct a public hearing and consider approving an ordinance approving a Fourth Amended And Restated Project Plan And Financing Plan For Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number Three; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
>> CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A FOURTH AMENDED AND RESTATED PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCING PLAN FOR TAX INCREMENT AND REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 3 AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
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BEFORE YOU IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AMENDED AND RESTATED PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN FOR TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 3, RELATED TO THE EAST RIDGE PID IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5.THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN EARLIER THIS EVENING BY THE [INAUDIBLE] BOARD.
INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE WAS CREATED TO OVERLAY THE DISTRICT IN ORDER TO KEEP THE ASSESSMENTS AS NEAR AS POSSIBLE TO COMPARABLE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY.
AS THE TAX BASE VALUE IN THE DISTRICT AND THE TURRIS GROWS, THE INCREMENTAL VALUE GENERATES INCREMENTAL TAX REVENUE, WHICH IS USED TO REDUCE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF ANNUAL PID ASSESSMENTS, WHICH IS TO BUY DOWN THE PID ASSESSMENTS AGAIN, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 45% OF THE TURRIS INCREMENT WHICH IS RESERVED TO DO THAT WITH.
THE REMAINING 55% IS TO BE USED BY THE CITY FOR ANY PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT THE TURRIS.
AS EACH PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT BEGINS, THE TURRIS PROJECT AND FINANCE PLANS, WHICH ARE THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS FOR THE TURRIS ADMINISTRATION ARE AMENDED AND UPDATED TO ESTABLISH A NEW SUB ZONE OVER THE UPCOMING PHASE BEING CONSTRUCTED.
IN THIS PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, TURRIS SUB ZONE 35 IS ESTABLISHED OVER EAST RIDGE PID IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5.
>> HAVE A TIMER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT OUR CITY GETS ZERO MONEY FOR THIS TO PUT TOWARDS PUBLIC SAFETY AND OTHER NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS.
WHEN WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, WE ARE LITERALLY WALKING AWAY WITH NOTHING AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP GROWING, AND THAT DEFICIT IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY IS GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER.
WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO BE MAKING DEALS LIKE THIS.
IT LOOKS GOOD. IT SOUNDS GOOD.
IT SOUNDS LIKE, OH, COOL, WE'RE BENEFITING THESE PEOPLE MOVING IN HERE, PAYING DOWN THESE PIDS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT IT IS AT THE COST OF THE REST OF THE CITY.
IT IS AT THE COST OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR RESIDENTS WHEN WE MAKE DEALS LIKE THIS.
THAT IS NOT OKAY. THAT IS NOT WHY WE'RE HERE.
WE'RE HERE TO PUT THE RESIDENTS FIRST, RESIDENTS AS A WHOLE CITY.
>> I WANT TO SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT AS COUNCILWOMAN TODD.
THESE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE FROM THE PAST THAT ARE NOT BENEFITING THE CITY VERY WELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR RAPID GROWTH IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
I CERTAINLY HOPE I'M CONFIDENT IN THE FUTURE THAT AGREEMENTS WILL COME TO THE TABLE THAT BENEFIT PUBLIC SAFETY THAT BRING EQUAL BENEFIT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND DEVELOPERS NEED TO BENEFIT TOO, BUT THEY ALSO NEED TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITIES THEY'RE ENTERING AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY'RE SEEKING AMENDMENTS TO.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL SEE BETTER AGREEMENTS, BETTER AMENDMENTS.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT DEVELOPERS WILL MEET US IN THE MIDDLE A LITTLE BIT BETTER GOING FORWARD. I DON'T LIKE IT.
AS MUCH AS YOU DON'T LIKE IT, BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH THINGS FROM THE PAST, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY WEREN'T VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT BACK THEN ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
BUT MOVING FORWARD, IT DEFINITELY WILL HAVE A LOT MORE FOCUS ON BENEFITING THE CITY.
ALSO WHY WE BENEFIT DEVELOPERS BECAUSE IT IS A MUTUAL AGREEMENT, AND WE BOTH HAVE TO BENEFIT.
>> YOUR HONOR, IF I'D LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT, ALSO I MADE A MOTION EARLIER ON THAT OTHER ORDINANCE, AND I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A THING WE HAVE TO DO, ALTHOUGH IT LEAVES A BAD TASTE IN YOUR MOUTH BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BENEFIT THE CITY IN THE WAY IT SHOULD.
I DO AND I'M HOPEFUL IN THE FUTURE,
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THAT OUR TIRZS AND OUR PIDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WILL BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS.I BELIEVE THAT WOULD OCCUR, BUT IT'S LIKE I SAID, WE'RE BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD SPOT ON SOME OF THESE AS DISCUSSED EARLIER.
>> WHAT'S THE CURRENT EVALUATION OF THIS PROPERTY? I THINK IF YOU GO BACK A FEW SLIDES WANT TO SEE THAT.
>> SORRY. THESE ARE THE VALUE OF IT RIGHT NOW, THE 82,000?
>> I BELIEVE YES. I BELIEVE THE ESTIMATED LOT VALUES ARE CURRENTLY SHOWN.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RECEIVING THE TAXES FOR THE 82,000, NOT THE $400 SOMETHING THOUSAND THAT ARE GOING TO BE VALUED AT AFTER THE HOUSE OF THE BUILD.
100% OF THE TAX INCREMENT IS GOING BACK TOWARD THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> IT SAYS 45, AND THEN THE 55 IS TO BE USED WITHIN THAT TIRZS.
I THINK 45 WAS PAYING ON [OVERLAPPING]
>> DON'T THE TIRZS GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPER TO BE?
>> IT DOES END UP GOING BACK TO THE DEVELOPER.
>> IT'S AN INCREMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE BASE YEAH WAS ESTABLISHED FOR THIS [OVERLAPPING].
>> BECAUSE WHY I ASKING WHAT IT WOULD BE BASE?
>> I DON'T KNOW. CITY STAFF MIGHT KNOW.
>> THE VALUE BASE WHEN THE REMOTE ASSIGNED OR THE VALUE BASE RIGHT NOW OR?
>> IT'S THE VALUE BASE I BELIEVE IN WHICH THE TIRZS IS ESTABLISHED. THAT'S THE BASE YEAR.
>> I THINK IT'S YEAR 2022, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
>> BUT I THINK YOUR POINT IS THAT IT'S LOW, AND SO THE INCREMENT IS GREAT.
>> THE INCREMENT IS ALMOST 10 TIMES HIGH.
>> THE CURRENT VALUATION IS 5,096,628, THAT'S IN THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN.
THE INCREMENT WILL BE CALCULATED BASED ON THAT 5,096,000 AND 45% OF THOSE INCREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE PLACED TOWARDS THE PID, AND 55% WILL BE FLOWING BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.
>> THAT CAN BE USED THROUGHOUT THE CITY?
>> THE WORDING ON THE SLIDE OF THE READING [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S WHAT IT WAS 55 HAS TO BE USED WITHIN THE TIRZS?
>> NO. THE 55% IS THE CITY'S MONEY. FREE RETOUCHED.
>> IT SAYS ONLY IS FOR THE TIRZS.
>> REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT SAYS, 311 SAYS THAT THE ONLY AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE PLEDGING IS THAT 45% AND THE 55% STAYS WITH THE FUND.
>> I'M SAYING I'M RE-READING THIS, 55 TO BE USED BY THE CITY FOR ANY PROJECT BENEFIT AND DETERS.
I JUST MAKE SURE THAT 55 THAT'S NOT THE CASE, SO THE SLIDE IS WRONG.
>> THAT'S. THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING LIKE THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. THAT LOOKS LIKE A WORSE DEAL.
>> 55% GOES BACK TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUNDS.
>> WHERE CAN WE FIND THAT IN WRITING? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN WRITING, IT SAYS IT GOES BACK TO THE TIRZS LIKE THAT.
WHERE WE FIND IT CORRECTLY WRITTEN.
>> THE LAW ITSELF, IS THERE [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED IN THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN ITSELF.
>> BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE LAW WOULD SAY THAT, BUT IF WE WROTE IT DIFFERENTLY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IF WE WROTE IT IN ANOTHER MANNER, ALLOWING IT TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THAT CHANGES THINGS.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WE HAVE IN WRITING.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
IT'S SO IT SHOULD BE IN THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN THAT'S BEING AMENDED TONIGHT.
>> POTENTIALLY AMENDED TONIGHT.
>> LAY OUT. IF YOU APPROVE IT.
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>> THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
SORRY. I HAVE TO OPEN IT SORRY.
THE TIME IS 8:53, AND THIS WILL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.
TIME IS 8:54, AND THIS WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, CAN OUR LAWYER MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT FROM WHAT WAS DISCUSSED? BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG WAIT INTO HOW THIS DECISION AND VOTE SHOULD BE GOING.
I THINK WE AS COUNSEL SHOULD KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE AGREEING TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED OR NOT BECAUSE THAT CHANGES WHERE THE MONEY GOES.
>> I WOULD JUST DOUBLE CHECK TO VERIFY.
GRANT, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT ANOTHER MISTAKE, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE VOTING ON THIS.
>> HAPPY TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER, AND WE'LL GET OUR WHOLE PID TEAM TOGETHER AND MEET AND CONFIRM EVERYTHING.
>> BUT WE CAN'T VOTE ON THIS UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THAT AGREEMENT IS BECAUSE THAT AGREEMENT CHANGES [OVERLAPPING].
>> I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER MAY BE HERE PRESENT AND MIGHT BE TO ANSWER THAT.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME SPEAKING, KELLY JUST PULLED UP THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN.
IT'S NOT REALLY AN AGREEMENT, IT'S LIKE A TIRZS PLAN THAT YOU APPROVE.
IT'S SILENT AS TO WHAT THE CITY DOES FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL, BUT THE CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO 45%.
ASSUMING THAT IT'S SILENT ON WHAT THE CITY DOES WITH THE 55%, IT FLOWS BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR YOU TO USE AS YOU.
>> BASED ON WHAT WE WERE TOLD IN EXECUTIVE REGARDING OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A DEAL IS A BIG PLAY ON THIS.
I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF THEY COULD FINALIZE THAT DECISION BEFORE WE MAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM.
CAN WE TABLE THIS TOWARDS LATER IN THE MEETING SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS AND WE CAN KNOW WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON?
>> SURE. I THINK THE CONFUSION IS ON THE INCREMENT.
THE 45% INCREMENT GOES BACK TO COVER THE PID ASSESSMENTS AND ANY AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE 55% COMES THE GENERAL FUNDS.
>> I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ON THE TERMS. I THINK THIS IS ALL MEMORIALIZED IN CURRENT DEALS.
I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE COME UP AND CONFIRM FROM THEIR SIDE, BUT THAT'S.
>> I GUESS I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT. JUST CONFIRM IT.
>> THANK YOU. SARAH LANDAK, COUNSEL FOR THE DEVELOPER.
THANKS FOR LETTING US SPEAK TONIGHT.
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION THERE BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ITS FIRST AMENDMENT, IT'S ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THE TIRZ IS ONLY A 45% TIRZS.
SO IT'S NOT THAT 55% COMES BACK TO THE CITY.
IT'S THAT 55% WAS NEVER PART OF THE TIRZS TO BEGIN WITH.
THAT 55% IS NOT RESTRICTED IN ANY WAY.
IT'S JUST CITY GENERAL FUNDS FOR YOU ALL TO USE THE WAY YOU WOULD USE ANY OTHER TAX DOLLARS.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN MEMORIALIZED IN AN AGREEMENT.
THAT IS WRITTEN AND SIGNED WITH THE DEVELOPER GROUP AT 45% FOR JUST THE TIRZ.
THE OTHER 55%, THIS ISN'T A CITY GETS ZERO DEAL.
THE CITY RETAINS 55%, AND THE 45% GOES TO HELP BY DOWN THOSE PIDS ASSESSMENTS TO BENEFIT THE HOMEOWNERS.
THAT'S ALREADY MEMORIALIZED IN WRITING SIGNED BY THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY.
>> I SAID, WE JUST WANT TO JUST TO CONFIRM JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER STUFF THAT THE MISTAKES WE MADE IN THE PAST.
WE JUST JUST LIKE TO DO CHECK BECAUSE THE WORDING ON THIS SLIDE WAS WRONG, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
>> AT THIS TIME, UNLESS YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> BRAD WILLIAMS WITH THE DEVELOPER.
I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO COUNCILWOMAN TODD.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO CONFER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY THIS EVENING TO TRY TO GET THE CLARITY THAT I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
I WOULD LIKE THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THE DISCUSSION AND WHERE WE STAND.
NOW WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, SO WE CAN TRY TO GET THIS ALL HANDLED TONIGHT WOULD BE THE GOAL.
WE'D APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
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>> DO YOU WANT TO TABLE IT TO THE END OF THE MEETING?
>> I DON'T THINK, CAN WE EVEN TABLE IT OR?
>> WELL, SINCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN MEMORIALIZED IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHICH WAY WE SHOULD GO.
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO SATISFY THE CONCERNS.
IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY, THEN WE CAN TAKE A VOTE NOW, SO.
BUT IF MRS. TODD, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE EXPLANATION, I'M CONFIRMING THAT THAT'S THE CASE, AND PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS, IT ALSO STATES IT AS WELL.
>> AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K-2.
[BACKGROUND] A MOTION PASSES? IT WAS STEVE.
[K3. ORD-2025-12-08-06 Conduct a public hearing and consider approving an ordinance levying assessments in the Eastridge Public Improvement District Improvement Area No. 5 project; fixing a charge and lien against all properties within Improvement Area No. 5 of the district, and the owners thereof; providing for the manner and method of collection of such assessments; making a finding of special benefit to property in Improvement Area No. 5 of the district; approving a service and assessment plan; providing a severability clause; and providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
US TO ITEM K-3, MRS. COOK.>> CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDINANCE LEVYING ASSESSMENTS IN THE EAST RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5 PROJECT, FIXING A CHARGE AND LIEN AGAINST ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5 OF THE DISTRICT, AND THE OWNERS THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR THE MANNER AND METHOD OF COLLECTION OF SUCH ASSESSMENTS, MAKING A FINDING OF SPECIAL BENEFIT TO PROPERTY IN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5 OF THE DISTRICT, APPROVING A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> SIMILAR TO THE WHITE WING ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE DISCUSSED A FEW MINUTES AGO.
PREVIOUSLY, COUNSEL WAS PRESENTED WITH AN APPROVED A COST DETERMINATION RESOLUTION APPROVING A PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND AUTHORIZING CITY STAFF TO GIVE NOTICE OF THIS ASSESSMENT HEARING THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO UNDERTAKE IN THE PROPOSED LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS.
NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED AND MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS.
THIS IS FOR THE EAST RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH WAS CREATED BY THE COUNCIL BACK IN 2021 IS A 568 ACRE RESIDENTIAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN LEVIED ON IMPROVEMENT AREAS NUMBERS ONE THROUGH FOUR, AND BONDS WERE ISSUED TO FINANCE IMPROVEMENTS IN THOSE PHASES.
THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED LATER LEVIES ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE A SECURITY FOR THE BOND SALE FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5 TO FINANCE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT PHASE.
THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE COMPLETES THE PROCESS TO LEVY ASSESSMENTS ON IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5.
THE ASSESSMENTS ARE DESCRIBED IN THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE.
THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN IS PREPARED BY MUNICAP, THE CITY'S PID ADMINISTRATOR.
THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN DESCRIBES THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENT AMOUNTS FOR EACH LOT SIZE AND IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5 OF THE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE BUDGETED COSTS OF DEVELOPER IMPROVEMENTS AND BOND FINANCED IMPROVEMENTS.
THESE I'M SORRY, THESE ASSESSMENTS ARE BEING LEVIED IN CONNECTION WITH THE BOND SALE.
IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5 INCLUDES 131 40 FOOT LOTS, 202 50 FOOT LOTS, 78 60 FOOT LOTS.
THE 40 FOOT LOTS HAVE AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE FINISHED LOT VALUE OF $68,320, AND AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE COMPLETED HOME VALUE OF $341.
THE 50 FOOT LOTS HAVE AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE FINISHED LOT VALUE OF $82,000 AND AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE COMPLETED HOME VALUE OF $410,000.
THE 60 FOOT LOTS HAVE AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE FINISH LOT VALUE OF $87,500, AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE COMPLETED HOME VALUE OF $437,500.
THE TOTAL BUILD OUT VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5 IS ESTIMATED TO BE APPROXIMATELY $161 MILLION.
THIS TABLE SHOWS THE ALLOCATION OF BUDGETED COSTS IN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5 ASSESSMENTS AND THE ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS FOR EACH LOT TYPE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ESTIMATED SINGLE FAMILY LOT AND HOME VALUES WITH AN IMPROVEMENT AREA IN NUMBER 5 OF THE DISTRICT.
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THAT'S IT WITH RESPECT TO THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE.LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I WILL OPEN UP THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THE TIME IS 9:04, AND THIS WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THE TIME I STAINED A MOTION.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT YES, YOU'RE SAYING, WE STILL GET THAT PERCENTAGE AND ALL OF THAT.
ABOUT 15 OR 50% CLOSE TO 18 OUT OF THE 44 OR ALMOST AT THAT 50%.
AS I SAID BEFORE, TAX MONEY GOES TO DEBT, ALMOST HALF OF IT.
THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE MONEY FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT PAYS THE DEVELOPER, IT PAYS THE DEBT.
WE DON'T HAVE OUR SAFETY. WE ARE NOT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR FUTURE AGREEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE BETTER.
I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE AGREEMENT AND STUFF, IT CAN BE THAT WE CAN WALK AWAY WITH SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE, AND IT'S NOT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING CHANGES TONIGHT, AND WE NEED TO START PUTTING THE WHOLE CITY FIRST.
WE HAVE SO MANY OF THESE TONIGHT.
>> AT THIS TIME, I ENTERTAINED A MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K 3. YOU HAVE A MOTION.
MS. COOK I'M MS. COOK, MS. ALLISON, CAN YOU RESET THE VOTES
[K4. ORD-2025-12-08-08 Conduct a public hearing and consider approving an ordinance approving a Third Amended And Restated Project Plan And Financing Plan For Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number Six; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
I TAKE ITEM K 4. MS. COOK.>> CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A THIRD AMENDED AND RESTATED PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCING PLAN FOR TAX INCREMENT AND REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 6 AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
THIS ITEM IS SIMILAR TO THE EAST RIDGE ITEM AMENDING THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN FOR THAT TIRZ.
THIS ORDINANCE AMENDS APPROVES THE THIRD AMENDED AND RESTATED PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCING PLAN FOR TIRZ NUMBER 6 WITH RESPECT TO THE SOUTH RIDGE PID AREA NUMBER 4.
THIS SLIDE HAS THE SAME I'D CALL IT, I GUESS A TYPO HERE.
THE 45% IS USED TO PAY DOWN THE TOURS.
I'M SORRY, THE ASSESSMENTS, AND THE REMAINING 55% OF THE LEVY IS NOT PART OF THE TIRZ AND IS RESERVED TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CITY TO USE AS IT WISHES.
[01:30:03]
>> ANY QUESTIONS? THE TIME IS 9:08, AND THIS WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
THE TIME IS 9:09, AND THIS WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THIS TIME I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE K 4.
>> MR. LONG, SECOND. THE MOTION PASSES.
[K5. ORD-2025-12-08-09 Conduct a public hearing and consider approving an ordinance levying assessments in the Southridge Public Improvement District Improvement Area No. 4 project; fixing a charge and lien against all properties within Improvement Area No. 4 of the district, and the owners thereof; providing for the manner and method of collection of such assessments; making a finding of special benefit to property in Improvement Area No. 4 of the district; approving a service and assessment plan; providing a severability clause; and providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
THIS TAKE US TO ITEM K 5, MS. COOK.CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDINANCE, LETTING ASSESSMENTS IN THE SOUTH RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 PROJECT.
FIXING A CHARGE AND LIEN AGAINST ALL PROPERTIES.
IN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 OF THE DISTRICT AND THE OWNERS THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR THE MANNER AND METHOD OF COLLECTION OF SUCH ASSESSMENTS, MAKING A FINDING OF SPECIAL BENEFIT TO PROPERTY IN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 OF THE DISTRICT, APPROVING A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, PROVIDING A SERVABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
SOUTH RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WAS CREATED BACK IN 2022 AS A 245 ACRE RESIDENTIAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN LEVIED ON PHASES 1 THROUGH 3 OF THE DISTRICT, AND BONDS WERE ISSUED TO FINANCE PHASE 1 THROUGH 3 IMPROVEMENTS.
THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE LEVIES ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE SECURITY FOR THE BOND SALE FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 TO FINANCE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT PHASE.
THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE COMPLETES THE PROCESS TO LEVY ASSESSMENTS ON IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 IN THE DISTRICT.
THE ASSESSMENTS ARE DESCRIBED IN THE THIRD AMENDED AND RESTATED SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN THAT ACCOMPANIES THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE.
THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PREPARED BY MUNICAP, THE CITY'S PID ADMINISTRATOR.
THE SAP DESCRIBES THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENT AMOUNTS FOR EACH LOT SIZE AND IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 OF THE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE BUDGETED COSTS OF THE DEVELOPER IMPROVEMENTS AND THE BOND FINANCED IMPROVEMENTS.
NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PRINCETON HERALD AND ALSO MAILED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH AN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER FOUR OF THE DISTRICT.
IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 IS COMPRISED OF PHASE 4 AND IS 51.276 ACRES AND INCLUDES 176 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT PER LOT FOR IA NUMBER FOUR IS $2,532 FOR 40 FOOT LOTS AND $3,059 FOR 50 FOOT LOTS.
THE ESTIMATED FINISHED LOT VALUES AND BUILD OUTT VALUES ARE SHOWN ON PAGE 37 OF THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.
IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 INCLUDES 130 40-FOOT LOTS AND 46 50-FOOT LOTS.
THE 40-FOOT LOTS HAVE AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE FINISHED LOT VALUE OF $63,400, AND AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE COMPLETED HOME VALUE OF $317,000.
THE 50-FOOT LOTS HAVE AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE FINISHED LOT VALUE OF $76,600 AND ESTIMATED AVERAGE COMPLETED HOME VALUE OF $383,300.
THE TOTAL BUILDOUT VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 IS ESTIMATED TO BE $58,876,800.
THIS TABLE SHOWS THE ALLOCATION OF ASSESSMENTS AND IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 BASED ON LOT TYPE.
THIS TABLE SHOWS THE ALLOCATION OF BUDGETED COSTS, IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 ASSESSMENTS, AND THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS BY LOT TYPE.
>> IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS. I WILL OPEN UP THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
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THE TIME IS 9:14, AND THIS WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME I ENTERTAINED THE MOTION.I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K 5. WE HAVE A MOTION?
>> ITEM PASSES. TAKE IT TO ITEM K 6, MS. COOK.
[K6. ORD-2025-12-08-11 Conduct a public hearing and consider approving an ordinance levying assessments in the Windmore Public Improvement District Improvement Area No. 3 project; fixing a charge and lien against all properties within Improvement Area No. 3 of the district, and the owners thereof; providing for the manner and method of collection of such assessments; making a finding of special benefit to property in Improvement Area No. 3 of the district; approving a service and assessment plan; providing a severability clause; and providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
>> CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDINANCE LEVING ASSESSMENT IN WIN MORE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 PROJECT, FIXING A CHARGE AND LIEN AGAINST ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 OF THE DISTRICT, AND THE OWNERS THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR THE MANNER AND METHOD OF COLLECTION OF SUCH ASSESSMENTS, MAKING A FINDING OF SPECIAL BENEFIT TO PROPERTY AND IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 OF THE DISTRICT, APPROVING A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, PROVIDING A SERVABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
THIS ITEM IS ANALOGOUS WITH RESPECT TO THE WIN MORE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 FINANCING.
THE WIN MORE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WAS CREATED BY COUNCIL BACK IN 2022, AGAIN, AS A 427 ACRE RESIDENTIAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN LEVIED ON PHASES ONE AND TWO OF THE DISTRICT, AND BONDS WERE ISSUED TO FINANCE PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 IMPROVEMENTS.
THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE LEVIES ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE SECURITY FOR THE BOND SALE FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 TO FINANCE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT PHASE.
THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE ORDINANCE COMPLETES THE PROCESS TO LEVY ASSESSMENTS.
THE ASSESSMENTS ARE DESCRIBED IN THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN THAT ACCOMPANIES THE ORDINANCE.
THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PREPARED AGAIN BY MUNICAP.
THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN DESCRIBES THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENT AMOUNTS FOR EACH LOT SIZE AND IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 OF THE WIN PID, AS WELL AS THE BUDGETED COSTS OF DEVELOPER IMPROVEMENTS AND BOND FINANCED IMPROVEMENTS.
NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PRINCETON HERALD AND ALSO MAILED TO OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY IN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PID ACT.
THE IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF PHASE 3, IS 65.851 ACRES, AND INCLUDES 314 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND FOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION LOTS.
THE PROJECTED ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS ARE SHOWN ON PAGE 29 OF THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.
IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 INCLUDES 225, 50-FOOT LOTS AND 89 60 FOOT LOTS.
THE 50-FOOT LOTS HAVE AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE FINISHED LOT VALUE OF 80,200 AND AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE COMPLETED HOME VALUE OF $401,000.
THE 60-FOOT LOTS HAVE AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE FINISHED LOT VALUE OF $87,000, AND AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE COMPLETED HOME VALUE OF $435,000.
THE TOTAL BUILDOUT VALUE OF IA 3 IS ESTIMATED TO BE APPROXIMATELY $128 MILLION.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ESTIMATED SINGLE FAMILY LOT AND HOME VALUES FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 BY LOT TYPE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ALLOCATION OF BUDGETED COSTS, IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 ASSESSMENTS, AND THE ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS BY LOT TYPE.
AND UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'LL LET YOU BEGIN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS WILL OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THE TIME A 9:18, THIS WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, I ENTERTAINED EIGHT MOTION.
>> I'M MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6, ORDINANCE 202-512-0811. WE HAVE A MOTION.
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[H4. 2025-12-08-R02 Consider approving Resolution No. 2025-12-08-R02 adopting a City of Princeton Public Improvement District (PID) policy; and take appropriate action.]
TAKE US TO OUR ITEMS THAT WAS PULLED FROM CASSIN AGENDA.I BELIEVE IT WAS H 4. MS. COOK.
>> CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION 202-512-0802, ADOPTING A CITY OF PRINCETON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PID POLICY AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNSEL, KELLY WILSON, CFO.
WE HAD PRESENTED THE PID POLICY BACK IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING, TOOK AWAY FROM SOME FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT WE DID IN SECTION 2, SO THAT WE OUTLINED EXPRESSLY THAT THIS INCLUDES THE TYPE OF A DEVELOPMENT.
I HEARD FROM COUNSEL THAT WE WANTED TO CLEARLY DEFINE WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS ELIGIBLE TO BE CONSIDERED IN A PID.
WE MADE SURE THAT WE EXPRESSED THAT IT'S RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALSO HEARD FROM COUNSEL REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS AND THAT IT EXCEEDS CITY'S REQUIREMENTS, IN PARTICULAR, ENHANCED ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
THIS REQUIREMENT IS OUTLINED IN SECTION 8F, WHICH WE HAVE BOLD AND UNDERLINED TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS EMPHASIZED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS PID POLICY.
>> I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR YOU PUTTING TOGETHER A NEW POLICY FOR US GOING FORWARD TO HELP ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE PUT FIRST WHEN WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS AND MAKING THESE AGREEMENTS.
I'M SURE THE MANY FUTURE RESIDENTS WILL BE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF HAVING SOME SAFEGUARD LIKE THIS IN PLACE.
>> I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK MCA FOR ASSISTING WITH THAT POLICY, AS WELL AS SOME STAFF MEMBERS, MAKING SURE THAT WE BUILT THAT POLICY TO DEFINITELY HELP IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.
>> DIP AND I AGREE WITH THAT AS FAR AS THE ADDITION OF THE I THINK THE COMMERCIAL ADDITION IN THERE IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR US PUSHING FORWARD, BUT AGAIN, I ECHO COUNCILWOMAN TODD SIDIMENT THERE. THANK YOU.
>> WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 4.
[H11. 2025-319 Consider approving a final plat for the expansion of Jackie Hendricks Stadium, Lot 1R, Block 1 being a 24.2306 acre tract of land located in the Hardin Wright Survey, Abstract No. 957, City of Princeton, Collin County, Texas; and take appropriate action.]
I SO TAKE US TO H 11, MS. COOK.>> CONSIDER APPROVING A FINAL PLAT FOR THE EXPANSION OF JACKIE HENDRICK STADIUM, LOT 1 OR BLOCK 1, BEING 24.2 306 ACRE TRACT OF LAND, LOCATED IN THE HARDEN WRIGHT SURVEY ABSTRACT 957 CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, MISSES ROOS.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, SHAYS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
THIS FINAL PLOT IS FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE STADIUM AT THE PISD TO ACCOMMODATE A NEW FIELD HOUSE, UPDATED GRAND STANDS, AND NEW REST ROOMS AND CONCESSION STAINS AND ALSO A MODERN PRESS BOX AND SO STAFF LOOKED AT IT.
AS WE GROW, WE NEED MORE FACILITIES TO HELP ACCOMMODATE THE NEW RESIDENTS, KIDS AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REALLY GOOD DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE WANT HAPPENING WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IT'S MEETING ALL OUR REGULATIONS, BASICALLY SO SINCE THEY WERE PLAYING GAME LIKE IN THE STADIUM ALREADY PRIOR TO THE FINAL PLAT.
I JUST DID THEY HAVE LIKE A TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE ALLOWING THEM TO USE THE FACILITIES PRIOR TO THE FINAL PLAT APPROVAL? HOW DID THAT WORK OUT?
>> YES. THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE PROCESS IS THAT WE'VE BEEN LETTING PEOPLE HAVE BUILDING PERMIT AND START USING THE PROPERTIES BEFORE WE DO A FINAL PLAT? WE WILL BE CHANGING THAT.
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>> THE STADIUM ADDITIONS ARE BEAUTIFUL.
I JUST THOUGHT I'D ADD THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM H.1.
>> YOU CAN STATE WHY YOU'RE SAYING.
>> I ABSTAIN BECAUSE THIS INVOLVES MY EMPLOYER.
BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE A MENTION ABOUT THE STADIUM ITSELF.
MY ELDEST SON, AS A SECOND YEAR APPRENTICE WAS ABLE TO WORK ON THIS AS A GRADUATE FROM PRINCETON.
IT WAS A BIG SUMMER FOR MY FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO SEE HIM AND ACTUALLY GO VISIT HIM ON THAT JOB SITE.
HE WENT TO SCHOOL THERE AND HE WAS ABLE TO WORK AS APPRENTICE PLUMBER ON THAT PROJECT SO IT WAS REALLY NEAT TO SEE IT ALL COME TOGETHER AND NEED TO SEE THE KIDS PLAY BALL ON IT NOW.
>> MOTION PASSES. THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM L.2 IN OUR REGULAR AGENDA. MS. COOK?
[L2. ORD-2025-12-08-03 Consider approving Ordinance No. 2025-12-08-03 amending the City of Princeton's FY 2024-25 Operating Budget; and take appropriate action. Presented by CFO Kelly Wilson.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 202-512-0803, AMENDING THE CITY OF PRINCETON'S FISCAL YEAR 2024 25 OPERATING BUDGET AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION, MISS WILSON.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL, KELLY WILSON, CFO.
TONIGHT BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE A ROUTINE.
YEAR END BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 25.
AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT IS TO ALIGN THE BUDGET WITH ACTUAL REVENUE EARNED, AS WELL AS EXPENSES INCURRED.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS ROUTINE.
IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN OCTOBER, I DID SEND A COUNCIL MEMO OUT ABOUT MY CADENCE GOING FORWARD AS TO REGARDS FOR BUDGET AMENDMENTS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEAN UP THE BUDGET AT THE END OF THE YEAR SO THAT WE'RE TRUING UP ACCOUNTS BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR, CLOSE OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
IT ALSO ENSURES COMPLIANCE WITH GAP AND OUR AUDIT ACCURACY.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS RECOGNIZING ANY ACCRUED REVENUE OR EXPENDITURES OR ADJUSTMENT OF ITEMS EARNED AND INCURRED BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30, BUT NOT PAID OR RECEIVED AFTERWARDS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING A YEAR AND CLOSE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THE ONLY FUND THAT IS IMPACTED FOR THE YEAR CLOSE THAT WE NEED TO ADJUST IS THE GENERAL FUND.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID RECEIVE AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE TEN PATROL VEHICLES THROUGH A RESOLUTION 202-410-1508 VIA ALONE, TOTALING $825,312.02 FOR A THREE YEAR TERM NOTE.
THOSE APPROPRIATIONS HAVE BEEN SET ALSO IN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET FOR THAT NEXT PAYMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID.
WE ARE ASKING FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE LOAN PROCEEDS AND THE ACQUISITION COST OF THE VEHICLES.
THIS WAS NOT IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET, NOR DID WE PRESENT THIS IN THE MID YEAR BECAUSE AT THE TIME, WE DID NOT HAVE THE ACQUISITION COSTS.
IT DOES TAKE QUITE A WHILE TO GET THOSE PATROL VEHICLES.
THIS JUST CLEANS UP THE FULL IMPACT OF THAT AND AGAIN, THIS IS A BUDGET IMPACT OF $4,254, WHICH WILL BE COVERED BY THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH HAS SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO COVER THIS.
AGAIN, AS I NOTED, THIS IS A NET CHANGE TO THE GENERAL FUND OF $4,254, AND THIS WILL BE INCORPORATED WITH YOUR APPROVAL IN THE FINAL 24 25 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
STACK RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2025-12-0803 AMENDING THE 24/25 OPERATING BUDGET AS PRESENTED AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER.
>> IF THERE'S NO QUESTION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025-208-03 AMENDING THE CITY OF PRINCETON'S FY 2024/25 OPERATING BUDGET.
>> MR. WASHINGTON, SECOND. I'M MISSING ONE VOTE ITEM PASSES.
[L3. ORD-2025-12-08-04 Consider approving Ordinance No. 2025-12-08-04 amending the City of Princeton's FY 2025-2026 Operating Budget; and take appropriate action. Presented by CFO Kelly Wilson]
I TICKETS AT L.3, MS. COOK.>> CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 202-512-0804, AMENDING THE CITY OF PRINCETON'S FISCAL YEAR 25/
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26 OPERATING BUDGET AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. MISS WILSON.>> THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, KELLY WILSON CFO.
AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS TO REFLECT THE 25 26 OPERATING BUDGETS NECESSARY WHEN IT COMES TO REVENUE ESTIMATES, ALLOCATING ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IDENTIFIED NEEDS, AS WELL AS THE ROLLOVER OF OUTSTANDING PURCHASE ORDERS FROM THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.
THIS HAS BEEN OUTLINED IN YOUR MEMO, AGAIN, THAT I HAD SPOKE ABOUT IN THE OTHER ITEM IN OCTOBER, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT GOING FORWARD, WE WILL BE PRESENTING PURCHASE ORDERS TO BE AUTHORIZED FOR THEIR REAPPROPRIATION IN THE NEW BUDGET.
SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE CITY DOES REVIEW THE OPERATING BUDGET TO AGAIN, ENSURE THAT THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES ACCURATELY REFLECT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, ADJUSTMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY UPDATED REVENUE PROJECTIONS, AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING NEEDS, OR CONTINUATION OF PRIOR COMMITMENTS.
THIS AMENDMENT IS PROVIDING THOSE NECESSARY AUTHORITY FROM COUNCIL.
SOME OF THE KEY BUDGET IMPACTS, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER IN DETAIL A LITTLE BIT MORE, THAT'S IN MY MEMO WITH THE UPDATED REVENUE ESTIMATES.
THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS REFLECTING THE AGREEMENT THAT CDC AND EDC PRESENTED TO COUNCIL THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE NOVEMBER 12 MEETING FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE REVENUE THAT THE GENERAL FUND WILL RECEIVE, AS WELL AS THE TRANSFER OUT OF EDC AND CDC FOR THEIR EXPENSE OF THIS.
WE ALSO RECEIVED FROM THE GREATER TEXOMA UTILITY AUTHORITY A REFUND OF $457,501, AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE SOUTH ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
THEY ARE REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR ENGINEERING FEES THAT WE HAD ALREADY PAID FOR THIS PROJECT.
NOW THAT THE PROJECT IS CLOSED, THEY ARE REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR THIS.
THOSE FUNDS WERE RECEIVED AROUND AUGUST THE 15TH.
OCTOBER. I WAS ON TO ROLL FOR A LITTLE BIT THERE AND THEN WITH REGARD TO A QUINT THAT WAS FINANCED AND IS IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR FUTURE DEBT OBLIGATIONS.
LOOKING OVER THOSE PID FEES, WE SAW THAT WE HAD SOME PID FEES FROM WHITE WING TRAILS THAT IS TO BE USED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THAT PID.
THE FIREHOUSE STATION NUMBER 2 IS LOCATED WITHIN THAT PID AND FINANCE IS RECOMMENDING PAYING OFF THAT DEBT INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT OUT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
YOU'LL SEE THAT'S THE REVENUE SIDE THAT WE'RE SHOWING.
WE'RE TRANSFERRING THE PID FEES, WHICH HAVE BEEN SITTING IN THE BUILDING FUND IS RESTRICTED ASSETS THERE, AND WE'RE MOVING THAT INTO THE GENERAL FUND SO THAT WE CAN PAY OFF THAT LOAN.
THIS WILL BE A LOAN SAVINGS TO THE CITY OF FUTURE INTEREST COST OF 3000607, AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PAY THAT ALL OFF, WHICH IS $444,985.65.
THAT IS IN MY MEMO THAT OUTLINES THAT SO YOU'RE SEEING THE REVENUE AS WELL AS THE EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE PURCHASE ORDER ROLLOVERS, I WILL GO IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL OF ANOTHER SLIDE ON THAT AND THEN SOME OTHER INVESTMENTS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL FUNDING NEEDS.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT WE KNEW THAT DISPATCH WAS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL COST, AND WE'RE REFLECTING THAT AS WELL IN THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, SO THAT WE ARE INCLUDING THE DISPATCH INCREASE OF $215,028 IS NEEDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICES FROM COLLIN COUNTY.
WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
THIS IS NOW BEING REFLECTED IN THAT.
THE MCKINNEY URBAN TRANSIT DISTRICT.
THEIR CONTRACT CAME IN HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED AND ESTIMATED IN THE BUDGET.
WE ARE NEEDING AN ADDITIONAL $11,219 THAT IS REFLECTED DUE TO DATA THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED AS WELL AS THEIR OPERATING COST.
IN THE PAST, THEY HAD RECEIVED COVID FUNDS.
THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING THOSE ANYMORE.
THEREFORE, THE COST IS NOW BEING SPREAD OUT TO THOSE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT CONTRACT SO THAT IS THAT REQUEST.
I ALSO KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED IN DETAIL ABOUT THE POSITION THAT WE REQUESTED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
WE ARE CLEANING UP THE BUDGET BY REMOVING THAT COST FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS BUDGET FOR THAT PART TIME POSITION, AS WELL AS REMOVING THE RENOVATION OF THE CITY MAYOR'S OFFICE OF 25,000.
WE'RE DOING A LITTLE CLEANUP AS WELL IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THAT IS REFLECTED IN THIS REQUEST.
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I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDING NEEDS, AND THEN I'LL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PO ROLE.YOU CAN STOP HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. I'LL WAIT TILL THE END.
HERE IS THE IMPACT YOU WILL SEE TO THE FUND BALANCES SO WITH THE REVENUE COMING INTO THE GENERAL FUND FROM THOSE PID FEES, THAT'S REFLECTED HERE, LESS THE EXPENSES OF PAYING OFF THAT NOTE AND A LITTLE BIT OF SOME PO ROLLS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A NET ADJUSTMENT OF $13,526.
THE UTILITY FUND HAS SOME POS AS WELL THAT WE'RE ASKING TO ROLL OVER, AND THAT'S $10,334.
THE CDC IS THE 75,000 PLUS THERE IS A PO FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN MORE DETAIL.
THE REST OF THAT IS ALL CIP PROJECTS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THE PO TO ROLL FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN KEEP UP THAT CONTINUOUS PO FOR ONE PROJECT.
AS I SAID, I WOULD GO OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE PURCHASE ORDERS.
THE GENERAL FUND IS SEEING 82,000 FOR A PURCHASE ORDER, WHICH IS DETAILED OUT IN MY MEMO AS WELL.
HAPPY TO GO OVER DETAIL OF THOSE POS, OR IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO KEEP IT AT A HIGHER LEVEL, I'LL FOLLOW YOUR LEAD ON THAT.
BUT WE DO HAVE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND A REQUEST FIND MY PAPER.
FOR THE POS, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE COMP PLAN PARKS AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN.
WE HAVE A PO FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A GAS ORDER, A FLOCK, LPR, AS WELL AS RESCUE BAGS FOR THE FIRE APPARATUS, AND THOSE ARE ALL THE POS ITSELF WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.
WE HAVE ONE PO IN THE UTILITY FUND, WHICH IS THE IMPELLER.
AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE REPAIR OF THE LIST STATION.
THAT IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION BALANCE LEFT ON THAT PO AND THEN THE PROJECTS ITSELF, THERE'S THE BORMAN LANE PROJECT.
IN THE BUILDING FUND, WE'VE GOT THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND THE PARKS BUILDING, AS WELL AS A PO THAT WAS LEFT OPEN THAT WE ARE CLOSING, IF YOU'RE AUTHORIZING THAT FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
THEN WE HAVE WITHIN THE IMPACT FEE, THERE'S VARIOUS PROJECTS SUCH AS THE DOGWOOD, THE MASTER PLAN FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER, AND THE UTILITY RELOCATION, AS WELL AS SOME 380 WATER LINE REPLACEMENTS.
THEN IN PARKS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MULTI GEN, THE JJ BOOK PROJECT, THE CALDWELL PARK PROJECT, AND THE GEORGIA TEXAS LAND.
I FIND THAT KEEPING THE POS CONSISTENT KEEPS THE CONTINUOUS TRANSACTIONS, AS WELL AS TRANSPARENCY ON THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, AMENDING THE 2025 26 BUDGET, AND I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I'LL START WITH THE PARKS QUESTION.
THE MONEY YOU JUST MENTIONED FOR THE PARKS, IS THAT COMING OUT OF BOND MONEY OR IS THAT COMING OUT OF THEIR MONEY?
>> FOR THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, WE ARE SPENDING OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES.
THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THESE PROJECTS ARE COMING FROM THE GO BONDS.
>> ON THE OTHER PART, IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO SAVE SOME MONEY.
ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS 30,607 THAT WE'RE SAVING A YEAR.
>> WHAT I WOULD WANT TO PUT OUT TO THE REST OF COUNSEL HERE IS SOMETHING THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE BROUGHT UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS THAT THEY WANT OUR LIBRARY OPEN ON SATURDAYS.
I LOOKED INTO IT. THEY HAVE TWO FULL TIMERS, TWO PART TIMERS.
IF WE GAVE THEM 16 MORE HOURS A WEEK TO MAKE ONE OF THEIR PART TIMERS WHO ALREADY GETS BENEFITS PAID FOR SO IT'S NOT AN ADDED EXPENDITURE ON THAT PART, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO OPEN ON WEEKENDS, HAVE AN 8 HOURS ON WEEKEND AND HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 8 HOURS DURING THE WEEK.
IT WOULD ONLY COST US $14,976 A YEAR.
>> CAN YOU BREAK DOWN WHERE YOU FOUND THE FUNDING FOR?
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>> THIS IS WHERE I'M ASKING BECAUSE IF WE'RE SAVING THE $30,607 A YEAR BY PAYING OFF THE DEBT EARLY, THAT'S SHOWING THEN WE HAVE THE 30,000 THERE.
THIS IS LESS THAN HALF OF THAT, AND IT GETS US A THIRD FULL TIME EMPLOYEE FOR THE LIBRARY AND GIVES THE RESIDENTS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR SO LONG IS THE LIBRARY OPEN ON SATURDAYS.
IT DOESN'T COST THAT MUCH MONEY.
IT BREAKS DOWN TO $312 A WEEK IS WHAT IT WOULD COST TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IF WE'RE FINDING WAYS TO SAVE MONEY AND WE CAN CARVE THIS OUT.
I THINK THAT IS A BIG WIN FOR OUR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN LIMBO REGARDING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE LIBRARY.
I THINK THAT AT LEAST A GESTURE LIKE THAT SAYS A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY SHOWING HOW MUCH WE DO VALUE OUR LIBRARY.
I KNOW PEOPLE WORK DURING THE WEEK.
IT'S HARD TO GET TO THE LIBRARY, I'M SURE.
WE WOULD FIND MORE PEOPLE USING IT IF IT WAS AVAILABLE ON SATURDAYS.
WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHILE ADJUSTING THE BUDGET.
WE CAN CONSIDER THIS AS COUNSEL, MOVING THE MONEY TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE LIBRARY TO MAKE THAT THIRD FULL TIME EMPLOYEE.
>> I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT IDEA, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR BENEFIT TO THE CITY BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS THAT WE'RE NOT OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS.
A LOT OF PARENTS CAN'T MAKE IT DURING THE WEEK, AND THEY'LL BE CLOSED EARLY DURING THE WEEK, AS WELL.
IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF US BEING ABLE TO OPEN ON SATURDAY FOR THE LIBRARY, I THINK WE SHOULD EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS.
>> I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT AS WELL.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'M A COMMOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 2025120804 MINUTE FI 2025, 2026 OPERATING BUDGET.
>> WITH OR WITHOUT THE AMENDMENT TO ADD.
>> I THINK THEY'D BE FOR A FUTURE GITTA ITEM.
>> BUT THAT WOULD MEAN REDOING A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS THE TIME WE CAN DO IT.
OTHERWISE, SHE HAS TO REDO THE BUDGET AGAIN.
THIS IS TRYING TO BE COURTESY TO KELLY.
I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW THIS WILD CARD OUT THERE.
COURTESY TO KELLY SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO REDO THE WHOLE BUDGET THING.
THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
>> I CAN TAKE THE LEAD ON ANYTHING THAT COUNSEL DIRECTS ME TO DO.
I CAN BRING IT BACK WITH THE LIBRARY MODIFICATION.
I DO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS AMENDMENT SO THAT I CAN SEND THE BUDGET TO THE AUDITORS AT THIS TIME.
THEY'VE BEEN ASKING ABOUT IT AND I CAN BRING IT IN JANUARY FOR JUST THE LIBRARY.
I DON'T MIND, OR WE CAN MODIFY YOUR MOTION.
>> IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT DOING A SECOND TIME, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST WAS TRYING TO CONDENSE IT FOR YOU.
IF IT'S BETTER FOR YOU SEPARATED, THEN YES.
>> I CAN DO IT SEPARATE BECAUSE THEN I CAN CRUNCH THE NUMBERS AND PUT IT IN THE RIGHT LINE ITEMS BECAUSE I'M PRETTY PARTICULAR ABOUT THAT.
>> THANK YOU. TAKE THIS ITEM L4. MS. COOK.
[L4. ORD-2025-12-08-07 Consider approving an ordinance authorizing the issuance of the "City of Princeton, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025 (Eastridge Public Improvement District Improvement Area No. 5 Project)"; approving and authorizing an indenture of trust, a bond purchase agreement, a continuing disclosure agreement and other agreements and documents in connection therewith; making findings with respect to the issuance of such bonds; and providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
>> L4. CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2025, EAST RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AREA NUMBER 5, APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING AN INDENTURE OF TRUST, A BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT, A CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, AND OTHER AGREEMENTS AND DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION THEREOF, MAKING FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, JIM SABONIS WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES, A CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR.
I'VE PREPARED A SUMMARY OF THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF THE FINAL PRICING THAT I'LL COVER, AND YOUR BOND COUNSEL CAN GO OVER ANY LEGAL ASPECTS OF THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ISSUANCE.
ON YOUR BEHALF TODAY, WE ACTUALLY MANAGE THE FINAL PRICING OF THE EAST RIDGE PID IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 5, SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS, $16,897,000 OF BONDS WERE PRICED AT YIELDS RANGED FROM 4.7-5.625%.
THE TRANSACTION WAS VERY WELL PRICED.
IT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT BOND ISSUE WE HAVE DONE HERE IN THE CITY OF PRINCETON.
WE HAD $29 MILLION ORDERS FOR THE TRANSACTION.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE FAR RIGHT, WE'VE HAD A LIST OF THE LEADING HIGH YIELD FUNDS PURCHASE PUT IN ORDERS,
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GOLDMAN SACHS, NAVIN, FRANKLIN FUND, PIMCO, FIRST EAGLE INVESTMENTS, AND BLACK ROCK.WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, IN ONE WAY WE DECIDE HOW PRICING IS WE LOOK AT OTHER TRANSACTIONS, AND THE UNDERWRITER FMS BONDS PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT SOME RECENT PRICINGS, INCLUDING A RECENT PRICE RECENTLY BY GREEN VICTOR DEVELOPED FOR THIS PROJECT.
AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THE THREE MOST RECENT PRICINGS IN TIMING RANGE FROM A SPREAD OF 142 BASIS POINTS TO 145 BASIS POINTS, WHERE OUR TRIM BOND ISSUE WAS PRICED AT 140 BASE POINTS.
JUST TALK A LITTLE ABOUT PRICING.
WHAT WE LOOK AT IS AN MMD, WHICH IS A RISK FREE INDEX, AND WE ADD AN INTEREST RATE TO IT BASED ON THE LEVEL OF RISK.
THE 140 BASE POINTS IS THE LOWEST RISK, THE LOWEST INDEX WE'VE USED HERE IN THE CITY, AND IT'S THE LOWEST WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IN SOME TIME.
IT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE FACE THE BOND BUYERS HAVE IN THIS TRANSACTION.
IN FACT, THE BOND BUYERS THAT PUT IN ORDERS, THEY'VE ALL PURCHASED BONDS PREVIOUSLY ON THE CITY'S PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THAT THE 16,897,000 BONDS HAVE AN ORIGINAL DISCOUNT OF 47,000, UNDERWRITER'S DISCOUNT OF 506,000, COST OF ISSUANCE, CAPITALIZED INTEREST, AND A DEPOSIT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACCOUNT FOR THE ASSESSMENTS FOR SHEAR ADMINISTRATION.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY GENERATE $13,559,000 OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE ELIGIBLE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE INDICATED IN THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN, THAT WOULD ONLY BE REIMBURSED AFTER THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED, APPROVED, AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.
THIRTY YEAR AMORTIZATION ON THIS TRANSACTION AT A NET INTEREST COST OF 5.6%, TOTAL PNI OF ABOUT 34.8 MILLION, AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 1.2 MILLION PNI PER PARCEL IS $2,834.
IF YOU APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT, YOUR BOND COUNSEL WILL SUBMIT IT AND WE ANTICIPATE THE CLOSING DATE WILL BE DECEMBER 30.
IN SUMMARY, PURCHASING IS WELL THOUGHT OF IN THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY.
INVESTORS HAD PURCHASED PREVIOUS PIT BONDS.
THOSE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
AS A RESULT, ALL THOSE MAJOR LIST OF INVESTORS SIGNED UP TO ASK FOR PARTIAL THESE BONDS.
AS A RESULT, THEY WERE ABLE TO PRICE THE BONDS DOWNWARD TO VERY EFFICIENT PRICING.
THE PRICING COMPARES VERY FAVORABLE AND IT'S CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE HAD ACTUALLY ESTIMATED WHEN WE PUT THE OFFERING DOCUMENTS TOGETHER IN THE INITIAL SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN.
THESE NUMBERS THOUGH HAVE BEEN EMBEDDED INTO DOCUMENTS YOU ACTUALLY APPROVED EARLIER, THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT PLAN AND THE TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE UPDATE.
AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, I WANT TO THANK YOUR STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS.
DURING THE PRICES PROCESS TODAY, WE WERE IN CONTACT WITH KELLY.
SHE REVIEWED THE PRICING WHEN WE HAD THE FINAL BID TO UNDERWRITE AND AUTHORIZED US TO DOCUMENT AND PRESENT IT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS ON THE FINANCIALS, BY COUNSELS HERE, AND CAN ANSWER ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
>> IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025-12-0807, AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2025.
>> IF THERE IS, GRAVES SECOND.
ITEM PASSES. THIS WILL TAKE US L5, MS. COOK.
[L5. ORD-2025-12-08-10 Consider approving an ordinance authorizing the issuance of the "City of Princeton, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025 (Southridge Public Improvement District Improvement Area No. 4 Project)"; approving and authorizing an indenture of trust, a bond purchase agreement, a continuing disclosure agreement and other agreements and documents in connection therewith; making findings with respect to the issuance of such bonds; and providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2025, SOUTH RIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 4 PROJECT.
APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING AN INDENTURE OF TRUST, A BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT, A CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, AND OTHER AGREEMENTS AND DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION THERE WITH, MAKING FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION PRESENTED BY MR. SABONIS.
>> JIM SABONIS WITH HILLTOP FOR THE RECORD, CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE PRICING OF THE EAST RIDGE AND THE WINMORE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT,
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THE SOUTHBRIDGE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WAS PRICED.ACTUALLY ALL THREE PROJECTS ARE THE DEVELOPERS GREEN BRICK.
ALL THREE PROJECTS' PRICE IS THE EXACT SAME 140 BASIS POINTS PRICING, WHICH WAS REALLY GOOD.
THE REASON BEING THAT THIS IS A SMALLER BOND ISSUE.
FROM A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AT 5.6 MILLION.
GENERALLY, THE VERY LARGE FUNDS LIKE GOLDMAN, NAVIN, OR FRANKLIN, THEY LIKE TO SEE BIGGER PAR AMOUNT FOR THEM TO DO THEIR INVESTMENT.
BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THEIR SUCCESS PREVIOUSLY IN PURCHASING, PID PROJECTS AND WITH GREEN BOCK HERE IN PRINCETON, THEY ALSO PUT IN ORDERS.
WE HAD A 1.5 TIMES OVER SUBSCRIPTION.
WE COMPARE THE PRICING AGAIN TO THE RECENT TRANSACTIONS, AND WE ARE 3-5 BASIS POINTS LOWER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PRICED RECENTLY.
FINALLY, ON THE SOURCES AND USES, AGAIN, THE 5,620,000 HOUR BONDS WILL NET OUT A PROJECT FUND OF 4,323,030 YEAR AMORTIZATION.
AGAIN, THE INTEREST RATE OF 5.63%.
TOTAL PNI OF 11.6 MILLION WITH ANNUAL PNI OF 387,000 WITH THE ANNUAL PNI PER PARCEL OF ABOUT $2,204.
AGAIN, AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, WE HAVE THREE GOALS AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
ONE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BONDS MEET ALL THE CONSTRAINTS AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, TWO, THAT IT'S A CREDIT WORTHY TRANSACTION, THEN ULTIMATELY TO MAKE SURE WHEN ITS PRICE IS PRICED EFFICIENTLY, AND AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR.
AGAIN, IT MEETS THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IT'S CONSTRUCTED ON OUR BEST PRACTICE OF HOW TO DO A PIT BOND ISSUE, AND IT'S PRICED VERY EFFICIENTLY.
I ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.
>> IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025-12-0810, AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF PRINCETON SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2025.
>> I'LL SECOND. MR. WASHINGTON SECOND.
[L6. ORD-2025-12-08-12 Consider approving an ordinance authorizing the issuance of the "City of Princeton, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2025 (Windmore Public Improvement District Improvement Area No. 3 Project)"; approving and authorizing an indenture of trust, a bond purchase agreement, a continuing disclosure agreement and other agreements and documents in connection therewith; making findings with respect to the issuance of such bonds; and providing an effective date; and take appropriate action. Presented by Jeff Gulbas.]
TAKE US ITEM L6, MS. COOK.>> CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF PRINCETON, TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2025, WIN MORE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 PROJECT, APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING AN INDENTURE OF TRUST, A BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT, A CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, AND OTHER AGREEMENTS AND DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH, MAKING FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF SUCH BONDS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND TAKING APPROPRIATE ACTION PRESENTED BY JIM SABONIS.
>> THIS ORDINANCE ACTUALLY INDICATES THE ISSUANCE OF 8,538,000 OF A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS FOR THE WIND MORE PID IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3.
AGAIN, ANOTHER GREEN BOCK PROJECT, THE THIRD OF THE THREE PROJECTS WE'VE DONE, PRICED AT 140 BASIS POINTS OVER MMD.
UNIQUELY IN THIS PROCESS, THERE'S FOUR FIRMS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN PUTTING ORDERS 1.4 TIMES THE POWER AMOUNT.
UNIQUELY ON OUR LARGE TRANSACTION, WE HAD SIX FIRMS PUT IN ORDERS ON THE TWO SMALLER TRANSACTIONS [INAUDIBLE] UNDERWRITER SPLIT THE ORDERS.
ALL THE FIRMS PUT IN ORDERS, BUT THEY SPLIT THE ORDERS BETWEEN THE SIX FIRMS. IT'S UNIQUE. I MENTIONED THIS TO YOUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
WE THINK IT'S EFFECTIVELY PRICED FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE IS, WELL, WE HAD SIX FIRMS ALL PUT IN ORDERS IN EXCESS OF THE BONDS INDICATED.
THEY ALSO INDICATED THEY HAD SEVEN MAJOR HIGH YIELD FUNDS APPROVE IT FROM A CREDIT PERSPECTIVE, BUT DECLINED BECAUSE OF THE PRICING LEVEL.
SOMETHING WE LOOK FORWARD IS AS I INDICATED TO HER, THAT THERE ARE SOME THAT THIS PRICING WAS JUST TOO LOW INTEREST RATE SO WE KNEW THAT WE WERE AT THE MARGIN THAT WE WANTED TO BE ON THE TRANSACTION.
THE $8,538,000 OF BONDS WILL GENERATE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OF $6,730,000.
TOTAL PNI FOR THIS WILL BE 6,588,000 ANNUAL PI AND 73,000 ON THE AVERAGE ANNUAL PI PER PARCEL.
THIS WOULD, AS YOU CAN SEE, HAS A LOWER ACTUAL PAYMENT PER PARCEL BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T HAVE A TARIFF'S OFFSET IN IT.
THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TOURS IS THAT THREE TO $400 EXTRA PER PARCEL AMOUNT
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THAT THE HOMEOWNER WOULD PAY THAT YOU ACTUALLY.BECAUSE OF YOUR TARIFF'S AGREEMENT, YOU OFFSET IT TO BRING IT ALL DOWN TO ABOUT THE $1,800 RANGE.
THIS ONE DOESN'T THE TARIFFS SO I WANT TO MENTION THAT.
THEN THE OTHER ITEM I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT, YOU DO GET TO RECOVER SOME COST.
EACH OF THESE TRANSACTIONS HAS $50,000 OF ADMINISTRATIVE COST RECOVERY BY THE CITY THAT'D BE FUNDED TO THE CITY AND RETURNED TO IT FOR THE STAFF TIME AND EFFORT PUT IN PLACE OF ACTUALLY FACILITY IN THE PROCESS.
IN SUMMARY, AGAIN, I WANT TO CREDIT YOUR STAFF FOR GOING THROUGH THESE TRANSACTIONS, AS YOU DID TONIGHT, THERE IS A LOT OF LEGAL AND FINANCIAL WORK, BUT IT WAS RESULTED IN A SUCCESSFUL TRANSACTION THAT'S VERY EFFICIENT.
AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, AGAIN, WE'D RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> THERE'S NO QUESTIONS I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L6 ORDINANCE 2025-120812, AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF PRINCETON.
TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND 2025.
>> ITEM PASSES. TAKE US TO L7, MS. COOK.
[L7. 2025-311 Consider approving Jason Ash's voluntary resignation from his appointed office on the Community Development Corporation Board of Directors; and take appropriate action. ]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING JASON ASH'S VOLUNTARY RESIGNATION FROM HIS APPOINTED OFFICE ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> I JUST WANT TO THANK MR. ASH FOR HIS VOLUNTEERING IN OUR CITY AND ALSO THE VFW.
HE'S A GREAT COMMUNITY ASSET IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I WISH HIM THE BEST IN HIS FUTURE VOLUNTEERING, AND I APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L7.
>> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION ALSO, I'D LIKE TO GIVE MY THANKS TO JASON FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE CDC, ALSO FOR HIS COUNTRY, FOR THE SERVICE IN THE NAVY.
HE'S ALSO PART OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE GOLD FAMILY MEMORIAL THAT WE PLAN ON PUTTING HERE IN PRINCETON, AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
[L8. 2025-12-08-R05 Consider approving Resolution No. 2025-12-08-R05, authorizing the City Manager or designee to execute a contract with Rudick Construction Group for the construction of improvements at JJ Book Wilson Memorial Park; and take appropriate action.]
THIS MOVES TO ITEM L8, MS. COOK.>> CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-12-08 R05, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR A DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH RUDICK CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS AT JJ BOOK WILSON MEMORIAL PARK AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. MR. BRYANT.
>> THERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.
CHASE BRYANT, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR JJ BOOK WILSON MEMORIAL PARK.
GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACK HISTORY ON THE EVENT AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WE PUT OUT FOR AN RFQ BACK IN JUNE.
WE HAD SIX DIFFERENT BIDDERS, CONTRACTORS.
WE WENT WITH THE COMPANY, RUDICK.
I ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONTRACTOR HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO NOTE IS WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND OUR DESIGN TEAM, WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SAVE AROUND 700,000 ON THE OVERALL PROJECT.
[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
WHEN YOU GET THE CONTRACTOR AND YOUR DESIGN TEAM WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE CITY, YOU'RE ABLE TO VALUE ENGINEER, COME UP WITH DIFFERENT SPECS.
MR. LONG, SURE, BEING IN THE CONSTRUCTION REALM, YOU UNDERSTAND WITH PO CONSTRUCTION, WORKING WITH DIFFERENT VENDORS AND ARCHITECTS, HOW TO SAVE OVERALL COST.
WHAT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT WAS WAS 5.3 MILLION, AND AS I JUST MENTIONED, NOW WE'RE AT 4,602, WHICH GETS US DOWN WITHIN THAT 65 BUDGET, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE THE SKATE PARK.
HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF OVERALL RENDERING.
THE SKATE PARK IS ADJUSTED A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE WILL HAVE SOME UPDATED PHOTOS.
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WE'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING MORE SO ON THE CONTRACTS AND THE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN VERSUS THE SCHEMATIC, AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.>> WITH THESE GREAT COST SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE HAD GONE WITH THE OPTION THAT WAS LESS EXPENSIVE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY.
WITH THAT IN MIND, KNOWING THAT WE ARE SAVING THIS MONEY, ARE WE ABLE TO ADD TO THE PARK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TAKEN OUT WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO SLIM OUR BUDGET DOWN.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT? OR WE'RE JUST RE ALLOCATING IT TO ANOTHER PROJECT.
>> I THINK WE WENT WITH THE BIGGEST BID.
>> THIS MONEY GETS TO GO TO ONE OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS?
>> THE MONEY SAVING FROM THE BOND, IT'S SITTING THERE FOR ANOTHER PROJECT?
>> THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY BEING FUNDED WITH DR HORTON.
>> THAT QUESTION IS, IF THE DR HORTON MONEY THAT'S LEFT OVER UNUSED, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY?
>> THERE'S STILL ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE FROM DR HORTON TO THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION COSTS ON THIS.
DR HORTON HAS CONTRIBUTED 5.1 MILLION.
THE TOTAL ON THIS PROJECT WITH SKATE PARK IS 6.5.
THERE IS ROUGHLY 1.5 MILLION ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT THE CITY WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING INTO THIS PARK.
>> FROM THE PARK'S BOND, OR IS IT FROM THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT WAS FROM YOUR ACCOUNT DIRECTLY?
>> NOW, WHAT I WILL NOTE IS WHAT BASICALLY THAT $700,000 SAVINGS, WORKING FROM THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTED AMOUNT.
WHEN WE PUT IT OUT FOR BIDS EARLY ON, LIKE I SAID, BACK IN ROUGHLY JULY, AND WHEN WE DESIGNED THE PARK, BY BRINGING THE CONTRACTOR IN AT EARLY STAGES, WE WERE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING THAT WE WANTED.
WE MAY HAVE GONE WITH A DIFFERENT FIXTURE, DIFFERENT OPTION, BUT STILL JUST THE SAME QUALITY, JUST A DIFFERENT MANUFACTURER, OVERALL, THROUGHOUT THE PARK, WHETHER IT'S FOR INSTANCE, I'M GOING TO USE THE PLAY EQUIPMENT AND ALL ACCESSIBILITY PLAY EQUIPMENT THAT IS AT THIS PARK.
WE FOUND A NEW VENDOR AT NRPA THIS YEAR, AND WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE SEVERAL $100,000 JUST ON THE PLATE EQUIPMENT ALONE BY USING A DIFFERENT VENDOR.
WHEN YOU START SPECKING THESE THINGS OVERALL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PARK, EACH COST SAVINGS REALLY ADDS UP.
WE DID NOT LOSE ANY INTEGRITY OF THE PARK.
STILL WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE EVERY AMENITY.
BUT GET THAT DOWN AS A COST SAVINGS, AND A LOT OF THAT IS WORKING WITH NATHAN BECKEY AND EPT.
HE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS THROUGH THE CITY AS WELL AS WILL BE WITH THE POLICE TRAINING FACILITY.
BUT BY HIM WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT TEAMS, THE MANUFACTURERS, THE CONTRACTORS THAT REALLY DRIVES THE COSTS DOWN AND GETS THOSE COST SAVINGS OVERALL.
>> THERE'S GOING TO BE A FENCE AROUND THIS PARK?
>> THERE GOING TO BE A FENCE AROUND THIS PARK?
>> YEAH, THIS HAS BEEN LIKE THE SECOND TIME YOU'VE PRESENTED IN SAVE MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW, YOU GOT THE MIND IS TOUCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT'S VERY APPRECIATED THAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT ARE BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND FINDING WAYS TO NOT CUT DOWN ON QUALITY, BUT TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF THE SPENDING.
I JUST CAN'T GIVE YOU ENOUGH KUDOS FOR THAT EFFORT PUTTING INTO THESE PARTS THAT YOU'RE DOING.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L8-2025, THERE'S 12, THERE'S 08, THERE'S R05.
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MOTION PASSES. MOVE TO L9, MS. COOK.[L9. 2025-12-08-R06 Consider approving Resolution No. 2025-12-08-R06, authorizing the City Manager or designee to execute a contract with Groves Electrical Service, Inc. for the installation of sports field lighting at JM Caldwell Community Park; and take appropriate action.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-12-08 R06, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH GROVES ELECTRICAL SERVICE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SPORT FIELD LIGHTING AT JM CALDWELL COMMUNITY PARK, TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION, MR. BRYANT.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN. SINCE YOU LOVE COST SAVINGS, THEN I WILL LEAD OFF WITH THIS.
[LAUGHTER] THE SOCCER FIELDS, MULTI USE PURPOSE FIELDS AT CALDWELL PARK, THAT CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING.
I DID MENTION THAT I'VE SEPARATED THE LIGHTING PACKAGE.
THAT ALLOWS US TO GET AN ADDITIONAL COST SAVINGS FROM THE GC AND BID OUT THE LIGHTS DIRECT.
GROVES ELECTRIC IS ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT INSTALLS MUSCO LIGHTS, WHICH IS IF YOU'VE BEEN TO CALDWELL PARK, AND YOU SEE THE NEW SOCCER FIELDS OR THE MOST RECENT SOCCER FIELDS THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED DOWN BY THE DOG PARK, THOSE HAVE THE DIRECTIONAL MUSCO LED LIGHTS.
WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDES DIRECT LIGHT ON THE FIELD AND NOT WHAT'S CALLED LIGHT NOISE.
IT'S NOT THE NOISE, IT'S JUST THE PERIMETER AROUND.
IF YOU'RE PULLING UP TO CALDWELL PARK AND THOSE LIGHTS ARE ON, THE FIELD IS LIT UP, BUT EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS STILL DARK.
THAT'S GREAT FOR HOUSING ADDITIONS AND SO FORTH.
THAT'S NOT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND YOU GOT LIGHTS BLARING DOWN IN YOUR WINDOWS.
HOWEVER, GROVES ELECTRIC WAS ONE OF THE ONLY CONTRACTORS THAT ACTUALLY INSTALLS MUSCO.
THE ENTIRE CALDWELL PARK IS MUSCO LIGHTING, SO IT MAKES SENSE TO OBVIOUSLY KEEP THE SAME LIGHTS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE PARK.
WORKING WITH GROVES ELECTRIC BY CUTTING THAT OUT, THE ORIGINAL COST ON THAT CONTRACT WAS 1.3 MILLION.
WORKING WITH THE MANUFACTURER GROVES ELECTRIC.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DOWN TO RIGHT AT A MILLION.
THAT'S ANOTHER ADDITIONAL 300,000 IN COST SAVINGS.
IF WE LIKE COST SAVINGS, [OVERLAPPING].
>> MR. BRYANT, COULD YOU SPEAK TO CHIEF WATERS ON HOW YOU DO THIS? [LAUGHTER]
>> I WILL TELL YOU THAT CHIEF WATERS IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, HE DOES HAVE EPT WORKING WITH THEM, SO HE WILL WORK WITH MANUFACTURERS AND EVERYTHING ON THAT FACILITY AS WELL.
>> THE LIGHTS THAT ARE GOING IN, THAT ROAD COLLAGE GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN WHEN IT GOES TO THE CURVE THAT LONG NECK.
WILL WE BE INCLUDING LIGHTING DOWN THAT AREA? I KNOW WE HAVE THE LIGHTS THAT ARE AUTOMATIC ON THE WALKING PARK, BUT WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS IN CALDWELL AND RESIDENTS WHO LIVE OVER THERE, FIRST, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK, TOMMY.
EVEN WHEN KIDS ARE TRYING TO GO TO SCHOOL, THIS TIME OF YEAR, IT'S AM I GOING TO HIT A KID TODAY BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS AND THERE'S NO LIGHTING, AND YOU CAN'T SEE VERY WELL OVER THERE.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE HAVE PLANS TO PUT LIGHTS OVER THERE OR NOT.
>> THAT WOULD BE A TOMMY QUESTION.
THAT SECTION OF COLLEGE WOULD BE FOR DESIGN.
THAT WOULD BE A NOTE THAT CAN DEFINITELY BE TAKEN, AND TOMMY'S RIGHT HERE, SO I KNOW HE HEARD AS WELL.
BUT ONCE THEY GET INTO A DESIGN ON THAT ROAD, I THINK THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK INTO.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THE DESIGN FOR COLLEGE STREET AND THE ENTRANCE PARK. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I HOPE THAT LIGHT NOISE BLEEDS OVER THERE.
>> I JUST HOPE OF SOME LIGHTING OVER THERE AT LEAST.
>> [BACKGROUND] THE ONLY WAY THAT LIGHTS COULD BE PROVIDED IN REMOTE AREAS WITHOUT POWER IS GOING TO BE SOLAR, WHICH IS BASICALLY LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE WALKING TRAIL, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BE APPROVED, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DESIGN THAT GOES INTO THE PHOTO METRICS WITH LIGHTING UP ROADWAYS AND PATHWAYS AND SO FORTH.
BUT YES, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
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>> WE TOSS THE BALL OVER TO CHIEF WATERS JUST TO CONSIDER.
I KNOW DURING SOMETIMES YOU HAVE LIKE THOSE TEMPORARY LIGHTS THAT CAN GO UP FOR EMERGENCY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WITH IT BEING WINTER, IT'S SO DARK.
I ALMOST HIT A KID. THEY JUST WALK STRAIGHT ACROSS.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO GET SOME LIGHTING OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR, SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE CHILDREN WHILE THEY'RE WALKING TO AND FROM SCHOOL BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY DARK AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO ACTUALLY HIT THE KID.
>> TOMMY IS STEPPING UP HERE TO ANSWER AS WELL FROM [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THINK THAT IS A WONDERFUL TIME.
AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO PUT UP LIGHTS AND ALL THIS STUFF.
UNLESS I POST THE SQUAD CAR OUT THERE'S. [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE HAVE ENGAGED SOME CONSULTANTS TO RECONSTRUCT OR TO BEGIN THE DESIGN WORK FOR COLLEGE STREET.
THAT PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
IT'S CHANGED IN SCOPE A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS, BUT YES, IT INCLUDES SHARED USE PATH, LIGHTING, SIDEWALKS, EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED, AND TEMPORARY IN THE INTERIM, WE'LL EXPLORE THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL AND WE'LL ALSO ENGAGE THE POWER COMPANY TO SEE IF THEY CAN ASSIST US WITH THE INITIALS[OVERLAPPING].
>> I KNOW LIKE CONSTRUCTION SITES.
THEY HAVE THOSE LITTLE TEMPORARY ONES THAT CAN GO UP.
MAYBE THERE'S A DEVELOPER WHO'S REALLY NICE WHO WANTS TO LEND US ONE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
>> I'LL REACH OUT TO MY CONTEXTS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS THAT WE CAN PUT OUT THERE TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY IN THAT AREA.
>> I'M SURE SOCIAL MEDIA ROAST ME, BUT I'M SURE WE CAN PUT SOME CHRISTMAS LIGHTS UP AS WELL.
>> HEY, THAT'S A GREAT TEMPORARY SOLUTION RIGHT NOW.
>> YEAH, I'LL READ ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK TOMORROW.
>> THIS GOOD STUFF, MAN. THIS IS HUGE FOR JUST A LOT OF OUR THE BOARDS WITH PRACTICES IN THE FALL, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR WHEN IT GETS DARK AT LIKE 3:30 P.M. OR WHATEVER.
THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L9.
>> THANK YOU. MOVES TO ITEM L10.
>> COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO THANK CHASE AND HIS TEAM.
NATE BECKY IS OUR SECRET WEAPON.
HE'S WALKING AWAY WITH THE BLUE SUIT.
BUT ANYWAY, SO WITH THE COST SAVINGS, HE'S WORKED HARD.
HE'S OUR CONSTRUCTION REPRESENTATIVE, AND HE HELPS FIND THOSE, SO THANK YOU, NATE.
[L10. 2025-12-08-R08 Consider approving Resolution No. 2025-12-08-R08, and take appropriate action.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-12-08 R08 AND TAKE ACTION, MR. TOMMY MAPP.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, TOMMY MAPP, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
AT OUR LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER, WE HAD BROUGHT FORWARD A THREE OPTION PROPOSAL FOR UPDATING THE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN FOR THE CITY.
DURING THAT MEETING, YOU'RE ELECTED TO GO WITH OPTION 1 AND 2, WHICH WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT.
BUT THEN AT THE END OF THAT MEETING, WE WERE ASKED TO BRING IT BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND GET SOME DIRECTION SO WE CAN GET THIS UNDERWAY.
>> PICKING THE PERSON OR THE COMPANY TO DO THIS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS THE MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED GROUP FOR IT.
I UNDERSTAND WE CAN ENGAGE INTO PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENTS WITH ORGANIZATION, THE COMPANIES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY CONTRACTS WITH THEM FOR $1 AMOUNT OR ANYTHING.
SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT IS THIS SPECIALIZED, THIS UNIQUE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN RFQ, WHICH IS WHAT I PUSHED FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN I BROUGHT UP DOING THE CITYWIDE DRAINAGE STUDY.
WE NEEDED TO SEE WHO ALL WOULD COME FORWARD, OFFER SERVICES, WHAT KIND OF STUDIES, HOW IT WOULD LOOK.
WE NEEDED TO SEE ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS AND COMPARE THEM TO FIND THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR OUR CITY.
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WE DIDN'T DO THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THIS COMPANY WOULDN'T WIN THAT, BUT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DO AN RFQ AND LOOK ACROSS THE BOARD AND FIND OUT, ARE WE TRULY PICKING THE MOST QUALIFIED COMPANY TO DO SOMETHING SO SPECIALIZED FOR US BECAUSE DRAINAGE IS A BIG THING FOR OUR CITY.BIG THING. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE HEARING FROM ONE GROUP AND SAYING, YOU'RE IT ON SOMETHING SO VITAL TO OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
IT TRULY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN RFQ FROM THE BEGINNING.
>> WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR OUR RQ FOR THE LIST OF PRE-QUALIFIED CANDIDATES, WE LISTED OFF THE INDIVIDUAL SPECIALIZED TASKS THAT WE WANTED EACH INDIVIDUAL FIRM TO PERFORM FOR US.
IEA I DON'T HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF ME.
I CAN GET IT. IT'S ON MY LAPTOP.
TWO OTHER FIRMS SUBMITTED WITH SAMPLE DRAINAGE PLANS THAT THEY'D PREPARED.
THOSE WERE REVIEWED INTERNALLY AS A SPECIALIZED TASK FOR SOMETHING THAT WE KNEW WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
FOR OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER DRAINAGE PLANS, FOR EVERY ENGINEERING TASK THAT HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN ASSIGNED TO SOMEBODY, WE REQUESTED THOSE PLANS, WE REQUESTED SAMPLES OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO REFERENCES, WE CHECKED THEIR REFERENCES.
WE FEEL THAT SELECTING FROM OUR PRE-QUALIFIED LIST, WE ARE SELECTING THE MOST QUALIFIED BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CAME FORWARD AND SAID, WE WANT TO DO DRAINAGE STUDIES FOR YOU.
WE WANT TO UPDATE YOUR DRAINAGE MANUAL, YOUR DRAINAGE CRITERIA, YOUR ORDINANCES, AND THEY PROVIDED US THAT DOCUMENTATION FOR REVIEW.
>> WHICH IN YOUR ORIGINAL MASTER DRAINAGE VISION DID NOT INCLUDE THE CITYWIDE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT.
IF ANYTHING, THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT THEN SHOULD BE SEPARATED, AND THAT IS WHAT NEEDS THE RFQ, BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER A PART OF THE CITY'S PLANS UNTIL I PUSHED AND PUSHED AND PUSHED FOR IT.
IF I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM FOR THE DRAINAGE PLAN AND THE BOOK AND ALL THE THINGS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE CITY WAS LOOKING AT THE BEGINNING UNTIL I PUSHED IN FOR THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS, THEN WE NEED TO SEPARATE THAT OUT IN RFQ FOR THE STORM WATER ASSESSMENT, RATHER THAN JUST PICK AN OPTION THAT JUST IGNORES THAT.
THAT'S THE PART THAT'S SPECIALIZED.
THAT'S THE PART THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING INTO REAL CONSIDERATION HERE.
WE WERE TOLD WE HAD OPTION ONE, TWO AND THREE.
BUT OPTION FOUR IS TO SAY NO AND TO ASK FOR THE RFQ TO SEE WHAT, THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT ONLY DO STUFF LIKE STORMWATER ASSESSMENTS.
ARE WE GETTING THAT? IS THE QUESTION B AND LOOKING AT IT, YES, FOR ALL THE OTHER PARTS OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, YES, I CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEM.
BUT THAT STORMWATER ASSESSMENT WAS AN ADD ON.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO THE RESIDENTS BY JUST CLUMPING IT IN THERE AND JUST GOING AT IT WHEN IT WAS NEVER ORIGINALLY PART OF THE VISION OF WHAT THE CITY WAS DOING.
I DON'T THINK WE LOOKED AT IT THE WAY WE SHOULD HAVE.
>> HAPPY TO TAKE COUNSEL DIRECTION AND GO FORWARD WITH WHATEVER YOUR PROPOSALS ARE OR THE DIRECTION THAT IS THE HANDED DOWN.
DO WE KNOW HOW MANY NEIGHBOR-HOODS ARE SUFFERING WITH SOME TYPE OF DRAINAGE ISSUES EARLIER.
WE WENT BACK THROUGH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.
>> EARLIER THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM REQUEST THINGS WAS FOR A SPECIFIC FORM TO HAVE BEEN CREATED SO RESIDENTS COULD FILL IT OUT SO WE COULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND PUT ONTO GIS MAP.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE, SHOULD HAVE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE PROPERTIES I VISITED, IT IS VERY SPREAD OUT.
THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND VERY TIGHTLY PACKED ALONG TIKI CREEK, WHICH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL PARKS AND REC PLAN FROM 2017, LITERALLY SAID DON'T BUILD THERE.
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AND WE BUILT THERE.NOW WE'RE HAVING DRAINAGE PROBLEMS, WHICH THE PARKS AND REC PLAN SAID WOULD HAPPEN.
WE BUILT WHERE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE BUILDING.
WE'RE SEEING THE DRAINAGE THAT WAS PREDICTED TO BE A PROBLEM, AND WE'RE SITTING HERE SAYING, IT'S COOL.
LET'S NOT DO A CITY WIDE DRAINAGE THING.
WE HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS. THAT'S CONCERNING.
>> TELL ME WHAT WERE YOU GO TO SAY?
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WE DO HAVE A SPECIALIZED AREA ONLINE ON OUR WEBSITE, ON OUR CITY PHONE APPS.
WE HAVE SPECIALIZED FORMS IN INTERNAL TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR RECORDING AND DOCUMENTING ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE CITY STAFF.
WE ARE AWARE OF FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS, AND THERE ARE SPORADIC ONES AROUND THE CITY THAT HAVE ACTUALLY REPORTED THEM DIRECTLY TO CITY STAFF.
THAT WAS PART OF THE OUTREACH OF THE DRAINAGE PLAN PROPOSAL WAS TO ACTUALLY HOST OPEN TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO WHERE RESIDENTS COULD COME AND WE COULD DOCUMENT AND MAP EVERYTHING OUT ON OUR GIS OR WHATEVER, WHERE THESE ISSUES ARE SO THAT WE COULD THEN GO BACK AND STUDY THOSE [INAUDIBLE]
>>THAT SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE WE APPROVE A CONTRACT.
THAT TOWN HALL SHOULD HAPPEN FIRST SO WE CAN SEE THE DATA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IMPACTED.
>> WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT ON HAND TO DOCUMENT THIS STUFF AND TO START GETTING A PLAN TOGETHER FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.
BECAUSE JUST RECEIVING ONE OR TWO PHONE CALLS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE NEED THE ACTUAL PEOPLE TO COME TO US AND DOCUMENT.
WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DOCUMENT WHAT'S GOING ON SO THAT WE CAN GET A PLAN TOGETHER, AND TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT DIRECTION FOR THE CONSULTANTS AS A PLACE TO START.
FOR THEM TO BE HEARING AT FIRST-HAND TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY ARE SPECIALIZED ENGINEERS FOR DRAINAGE ENGINEERING.
HAVING THAT FORUM TO WHERE WE COULD GET THE RESIDENTS TO COME TO US AND ACTUALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH LICENSED PROFESSIONALS IN DRAINAGE TO START TO DOCUMENT AND TO GET A GAUGE OF WHERE THE MAIN TROUBLE AREAS ARE.
THAT SIX NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT WE COULD HAVE A NUMBER FOUR QUOTE.
IF WE NEED TO GO INTO MORE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ALWAYS ADD ON.
I FEEL THAT DUE DILIGENCE WAS DONE IN THE SELECTION OF THIS CONSULTANT.
BUT IF THE COUNSEL DOES NOT AGREE WITH THAT, WE CAN GO BACK OUT FOR A SPECIALIZED RQ.
>> BECAUSE THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE RESIDENTS TALKING TO THE EXPERTS.
WE COULD PROBABLY RECORD WHERE THE TRUE ISSUES WERE?
>> TO OUTLINE WHERE THOSE SIX TARGET AREAS WOULD BE.
NOW CAN WE DO A SEPARATE CONTRACT FOR THE CONSULTATION VERSUS THE ACTUAL WORK SO WE CAN GET ACTUAL WHAT IT COSTS FOR THE DRAINAGE ITSELF.
LET'S SAY YOU COME UP IN IT'S ONLY TWO NEIGHBORHOODS OR YOU COME UP IN THIS TENT.
THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY CREATE A PLAN FROM THERE INSTEAD OF AGREEING TO, I GUESS, IT'S BIG NUMBER OR IS THE NUMBER TO NOT EXCEED OR IS THE NUMBER THAT THE CONTRACT?
>> THAT WAS MORE OF A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER.
>> IF THERE WAS ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE FOUND, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND THEN AMEND THAT AGREEMENT TO THOSE AREAS.
I'M NOT WANTING TO EXPLODE ANYONE.
>> BUT IT'S LIKE A BLANK CHECK AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE DRAINAGE IS AN ISSUE.
WE GO INTO THE SIX, WE HAVE A MEETING, AND NOW YOU FIND IT'S 30.
I THINK THE MAYOR'S IDEA OF A CONSULTATION FIRST, LET US DO THE TOWN HALL.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THEM AS WELL TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HEAR, LIKE, HEY, HERE'S THE WORK YOU'RE WALKING INTO.
YOU SHOULD SEE THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT BECAUSE THEY'RE WALKING INTO SOMETHING BLIND AS WELL.
WE'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT SAY, WE DID SOMETHING, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.
JEFF, WHO WAS JUST HERE TO GET THE ZONING AMENDMENT, THE DEVELOPERS MOVED THE SEWER ON THE PLAN FROM WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND NOW HIS HOUSE IS IN THE EASEMENT, AND THEY DIDN'T TELL ANYONE.
WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPENING THAT ARE IMPACTING STUFF THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE RESIDENTS.
I THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE COMPANY THAT WE USE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE WALKING INTO TOGETHER BEFORE WE'RE SIGNING SOME CONTRACT WITHIN $1 AMOUNT.
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I WOULD LOVE TO DO THE HIRING THEM AS A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE TOWN HALL AND SEE THE ASSESSMENT AND REALLY TRULY HAVE THE DATA IN THEIR PRESENTATION TO US OF WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK HERE, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNSEL OR LIKE, HEY, WE NEED, TWO MORE MILLION DOLLARS.THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY THAT WE'RE NOW SUDDENLY ADDING ON TO THE CONTRACT LIKE THAT.
IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT UPFRONT.
>> BUT THAT WOULD ONLY HAPPEN IF WE DISCOVERED THAT WE HAD MORE PROBLEM AREAS THAN SIX AREAS, IF WE LOOK UP IN ITS 10 AREAS AND WE COME BACK AND HAVE TO AMEND THE CONTRACT TO ADDRESS THE OTHER FOUR AREAS, THEN THAT WOULD BE US DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH THAT.
I DON'T SEE WHY PEOPLE WOULD BE UPSET IF WE HAD TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS MORE AREAS BECAUSE WE FOUND MORE AREAS.
>> OUR DRAINAGE PLAN WAS DONE, 2017, 2018.
THE PROJECTIONS WITH ALL OF THAT FOR THE POPULATION PUTS OUR POPULATION 25 YEARS AHEAD OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
25 YEARS. OUR DRAINAGE PLAN IS 25-YEARS-OLD.
IT DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT IS WHY DOING THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT IS SO VITAL.
WE ARE 25 YEARS BEHIND ALREADY.
IT'S A BIG THING TO BE TAKING ON.
>> WHAT ARE YOU ASKING JUST SO WE CAN BE CLEAR? COUNSEL UNDERSTANDS.
>> I WANT TO CONSULTATION FIRST SO THAT WE CAN GET THE TRUE ASSESSMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
I WOULD HAPPILY TAKE THEM TO ALL THE PLACES I VISITED SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
THEN THEY'LL HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF IT, BECAUSE I'VE EVEN, WITH OUR DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT, ON THE FIELD TRIP AND SHE SAW THINGS THAT WERE MIND BLOWING THAT SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
YOU THINK IT'S ONE THING, AND I PROMISE YOU, IT IS NOT.
>> CAN WE SPEAK, IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE WITH YOUR COMPANY?
>> THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT IS YOU HAVE THE RIVERINE FLOODING, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LOCALIZED FLOODING.
IN THAT LOCALIZED FLOODING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE SIX LOCATIONS.
BUT FOR THE RIVERINE FLOODING, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED AS MUCH PUBLIC INPUT IN THE UPFRONT ON THAT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST COLLECTING THE DATA ON WHAT DOES OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS LOOK LIKE TODAY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDOUT.
WE'RE GOING TO REDO THOSE FLOODPLAINS BASED OFF OF THAT.
THEN THAT DATA IS GOING TO GET PRESENTED TO EVERYBODY THAT'S AFFECTED BY IT.
IF MY FLOODPLAIN EXTENDS FURTHER, WE WANT THOSE MAPS IN OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HOLD SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GO BY AND SHOW PEOPLE HOW THINGS ARE CHANGING AS WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE THE MODELING.
>> WHICH WOULD BE GREAT IF WE MAPPED ALL OF OUR FLOODPLAINS.
BUT IF IT'S A FLOODPLAIN THAT GOT CREATED BY A DEVELOPER POST DEVELOPMENT, IT'S ON A FMA FLOODPLAIN.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY KEEP RECORDS OF THAT.
YOU'D HAVE TO KNOW TO GO ASK FOR THE PLATE TO GO GET THE THING TO FIND IT.
WE DON'T EVEN NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS AROUND IT THAT IT'S HAPPENING.
UNLESS IT'S A FMA FLOODPLAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIG THROUGH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE DONE TO FIND ANY HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAINS THAT GOT CREATED BECAUSE WE DON'T MAP THEM.
THERE ARE FLOODPLAINS OUT THERE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT REALIZE ARE A FLOODPLAIN.
>> ARE YOU SPEAKING, LIKE, THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES HAVE FLOODPLAINS INSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE 100 YEARS?
>> ARE THEY CONNECTED TO THE RIVER THEMSELVES?
>> THERE'S ONE AREA WHERE IT'S QUESTIONABLE IF THERE ARE HOUSES CURRENTLY INSIDE A FLOODPLAIN RIGHT NOW.
>> LIKE I SAID, I WOULD HAPPILY TAKE YOU ON A TOUR TO SEE THE WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS.
I JUST THINK THAT BEFORE WE ASSIGN A CONTRACT, I THINK WE NEED TO GO INTO IT EYES WIDE OPEN TO WHAT'S REALLY HERE.
I TRULY BELIEVE IF YOU SAW THE STUFF THAT I HAVE SEEN, YOU WOULD THINK, MAYBE I HAVE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION OF SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT MIGHT NEED DONE.
TRULY, THERE ARE THINGS YOU WOULD NOT EXPECT TO SEE THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE OR HAVE HAPPENED BECAUSE OF PAST DECISIONS, AND WE ARE ANSWERING FOR IT TODAY.
>> I WOULD BE EXCITED TO GO WITH YOU ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AND INVESTIGATE THE ISSUES.
I STILL THINK THAT THE RIVER IN FLOODPLAINS THEMSELVES, THEY NEED TO BE REDONE, AND THAT'S AN OUTSIDE THING FROM THE LOCALIZED FLOODING.
THAT LOCALIZED FLOODING GETS DRIVEN BY PEOPLE TELLING US ON MAPS THAT WE PRODUCE ON COMPUTERS THAT WE BRING INTO THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT SHOWS US EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE.
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WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT UNTIL WE DO THE PUBLIC MEETING BUT BEFORE THAT PUBLIC MEETING, I CAN START ON OUR RIVERING UPDATES AND HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR THAT PUBLIC MEETING TOO, SO YOU CAN START TO SEE HOW THAT FLOODPLAIN IS EVOLVING AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE STUDY.WE'RE PROPOSING TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL.
>> QUICK QUESTION. OPTION 1 AND 2, THESE ARE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THESE UPDATES?
>> IN THOSE TWO OPTION COSTS ARE THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS, OR YOU'LL BRING OUT THE COMPUTERS AND THE SCREENS AND EVERYBODY CAN HIGHLIGHT ALL THEIR ISSUES.
ALL THE MANY CITY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE PROBLEMS, THEY CAN COME AND POINT TO A MAP.
AT THAT POINT, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT?
>> AFTER WE UNDERSTAND ALL THE ISSUES, WE'LL CATEGORIZE THEM WHETHER THEY'RE A FEMA RELATED FLOODPLAIN ISSUE OR IF THEY'RE A LOCALIZED FLOODPLAIN ISSUE.
THEN WE NEED TO GET THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BETWEEN TWO LOTS OF A HOUSE, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.
IF THIS IS SOMETHING HAPPENING WITHIN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THERE'S OTHER AVENUES THAT WE CAN GO ABOUT FIXING THAT.
I USUALLY CALL THESE HOT SPOT MAPS.
IF I SEE A CLUSTER OF CIRCLES IN ONE SPECIFIC AREA, I KNOW THAT AREA HAS GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS GOING ON.
THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD MOVE INTO DEVELOPING AN ACTUAL DETAILED HYDRAULIC MODEL.
THAT TYPE OF MODELING IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO ON THE FEMA FLOODPLAINS.
WE'RE USING HEC-RAS, HEC-HMS, ON FEMA FLOODPLAINS.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE XP STORM ON THESE LOCALIZED NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS, WHICH ALLOWS THE WATER TO RUN OFF ON THE SURFACE IN THE 2D MODEL, AND THEN ALSO BE CAPTURED INTO ANY STORM SEWER SYSTEMS UNDERGROUND.
SOME OF THE MOST ADVANCED MODEL THAT YOU CAN DO TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S CAUSING THE FLOODING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEN RELATE THAT BACK TO THE EVIDENCE WE GOT FROM OUR PUBLIC MEETING.
>> ALL THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS BUILT INTO THESE TWO COSTS, OPTION 1&2?
>> IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION 1&2, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE UPDATED MODELS OF THE ACTUAL WATERWAYS THROUGH THE CITY, THE TIKI CREEK, STIFF CREEK, AND SISTER GROVE CREEK.
WE'RE GOING TO GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMMUNITY INPUT TWO TIMES OR AS MUCH AS WE CAN MUSTER BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY SHOWS UP, NO MATTER HOW WELL WE ADVERTISE.
BUT THE PEOPLE THAT DO, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO POINT OUT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP WHAT'S CAUSING IT, AND THEN SOLUTIONS.
>> WE ALSO PROPOSE AN EROSION CONTROL PROGRAM, WHICH WE HEARD ABOUT EARLIER.
THERE'S A LOT OF EROSION ISSUES HAPPENING.
WE'RE GETTING BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO GO OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE EVERY SINGLE RIVER THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CITY, DOCUMENT THE LOCATIONS USING GPS EQUIPMENT, AND THEN MAKE THAT PLAN WHERE YOU CAN CONTINUOUSLY MONITOR THIS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
YOU CAN GET AHEAD OF EROSION THAT MIGHT BE CUTTING INTO PROPERTIES.
YOU CAN GET AHEAD OF THAT TODAY.
>> BUT AGAIN, WE'RE STILL WALKING INTO A BLIND.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO GET THE OTHERS PART STARTED.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
WE'RE SAYING THAT HERE'S THIS PLAN WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS.
I'M TELLING YOU WHEN YOU GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS, THEY ALL DON'T GO OUT TO THESE HOUSES, AND YOU REALLY SHOULD.
THEY COME UP HERE, LINE UP, AND THEY BEG FOR HELP.
YOU SHOULD GO LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTIES.
WE HAVE A VERY BIG PROBLEM OUT THERE.
AFTER WE GET A CONTRACT, WE'RE GOING TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO IT.
WE KNOW THAT, AND WE'RE STILL LIKE, COOL.
WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
>> JUST FOR ME AND JUST FOR THE EXTREME DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY FROM WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN TO GET THIS PROJECT ON BECAUSE TRYING TO SEND IT OUT AGAIN.
WE'RE DELAYING IT ANOTHER THREE MONTHS BEFORE PROBABLY WE GET EVERYTHING IN AND THEN HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND THEN WE'RE STILL DELAYING THIS PROCESS.
WE HAD IT COME BACK AND I DON'T THINK THAT I'VE BEEN TO MULTIPLE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE HAVING DRAINAGE ISSUES.
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I HAVEN'T SEEN SIX MAJOR NEIGHBORHOODS.I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE HOUSES IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HAVEN'T SEEN SIX NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD HIT THERE, BUT IF WE DO HIT THERE, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD ONE, TWO, THREE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THIS MODEL.
IF YOU GET, PEOPLE WHO DO COME INTO YOUR STUDY, AND YOU FIND OUT IT'S 10 NEIGHBORHOODS, AND YOU JUST BASIC QUOTAS FOR THOSE 10.
BUT THERE'S STILL WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE BEFOREHAND.
IT'S NORMAL IN YOUR INDUSTRY, WITH ANY FIRM THAT WILL COME HERE, WILL THEY HAVE TO STILL DO THESE PRELIMINARY TESTS, BETWEEN THE RIVER BEDS, THAT BEFORE THEY HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
>> CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION?
>> THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS GO ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST NORMAL IN YOUR INDUSTRY.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT ANY FIRM WOULD DO? BASICALLY, THEY WOULD GET A CONTRACT FIRST, THEN GO OUT AND DO THEIR STUDIES, AND THEN HOLD THOSE STUDIES OR BRING THE MAPS TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN DISCUSS.
>> CORRECT. I MEAN, JUST ANY NORMAL JOB I'M WORKING ON, BY THE TIME YOU GET TO ABOUT 30%, YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT FIRST PUBLIC MEETING, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PHYSICAL INFORMATION TO SHOW THE PUBLIC SO THAT YOU CAN CONVEY A GOOD MESSAGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ALL MY WORK UP FRONT TO GET THE FLOOD PLANS UPDATED.
MAKE NICE EXHIBITS TO SHOW THAT.
I'M GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN FOR THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE HOW DO WE ACTUALLY GET THE MESSAGE OUT? WHAT'S THE VENUE WE'RE GOING TO USE, WHAT THE TIMES ARE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN ONCE YOU GET ALL THAT FEEDBACK, THAT DRIVES ON HOW WE ACTUALLY DO THAT SECOND PART.
ONCE WE HAVE THAT, I CAN MAKE A BETTER PLAN INTERNALLY, OF HERE ARE THE ACTUAL LOCATIONS.
MAYBE ONE LOCATION TAKES TWO WEEKS TO DO.
WHEN I ESTIMATE IT TAKES FOUR IN MY COST.
IF ONE ONLY TAKES TWO, THEN I CAN DO TWO WITHIN THAT SAME AMOUNT OF FOUR WEEK ESTIMATE.
AS SOON AS I KNOW THE PROBLEMS, I CAN GET A BETTER IDEA ON HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE ON EACH ONE, AND THAT WILL HELP US.
>> THAT'S CALLED THE SCOPE OF WORK.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK TO MAKE THE PROPOSAL.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK TO BE GIVING US AN ACCURATE PROPOSAL OF WHAT WE'RE SIGNING UP FOR AND WHAT NEEDS DONE.
SCOPE OF WORK IS FIRST STEP, AND SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES GETTING THE DATA FROM THE RESIDENTS.
I MEAN, WE COULD DO A HEAT MAP ON THE GIS, REALLY PUSH IT OUT THERE BECAUSE I BET YOU RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW TO GO WHEREVER IT IS ON THE CITY PAGE TO GO REPORT THAT.
IT WASN'T LIKE THERE WAS A SPECIFIC POST PUT OUT THERE.
HEY, IF YOU HAVE DRAINAGE CONCERNS, FILL THIS OUT SO WE CAN MAP IT, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
OF COURSE, THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
WE NEED TO KNOW THE SCOPE OF WORK BEFORE WE'RE SIGNING A CONTRACT ON ANYTHING.
THAT STARTS WITH GETTING THE INFORMATION FROM THE RESIDENTS AND GOING FROM THERE.
LET'S SAY YOU WENT TO THE PUBLIC FIRST, YOU WOULD BE GOING WITH, LIKE OLD INFORMATION THAT IS JUST WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO GRAB?
>> YEAH. WELL, I HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME FROM THE LAST STUDY BASICALLY.
>> WE PRESENTING AN OLD STUDY THAT'S MOST LIKELY CHANGED, AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE AGREES IT'S CHANGED SINCE THAT OLD STUDY.
>> I FULLY SEE A SCOPE OF WORK IN OPTION 1&2 THAT SEEMS COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROCESS.
I THINK WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
I THINK WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY THIS WAY.
COULD WE DO MORE, PROBABLY, BUT OPTION 1&2 JUST SEEMS LIKE A GOOD WAY TO START.
I THINK YOUR PROPOSAL HERE IS APPROPRIATE, AND TO ME, IF THERE'S A MORE DISCUSSION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L10 OPTION 1&2.
>> YEAH. I BASICALLY VOTED NO BECAUSE, AS A PROJECT MANAGER, I GET IT DIFFERENT PRODUCT, DIFFERENT PROCESS, BUT A SCOPE OF WORK PRIOR TO GIVING THE PROPOSAL IS GENERALLY THE WAY, I WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THAT. THAT'S WHY I VOTED NO.
>> MOTION PASSES FOR TWO AND MISS DAVID GRAVES'S LEFT AT 10:00 I BELIEVE 10:34.
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>> THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM L11, MS. COOK?
[L11. ORD-2025-12-08-13 Consider approving Ordinance No. 2025-12-08-12, amending Appendix A, Section 3, and Section 78-131 of the Princeton Municipal Code and implementing winter quarter averaging; and take appropriate action.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE 2025-12-08-12, AMENDING APPENDIX A, SECTION 3 SECTION 78131 OF THE PRINCETON MUNICIPAL CODE, AND IMPLEMENTING WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION, MR. TOMMY MAPP.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, TOMMY MAPP DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BACK WITH YOU AGAIN TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING A WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING ORDINANCE; THIS IS THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, NOTHING NEW, TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT IS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS, AND REALLY JUST SEEKING DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE.
DO WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT A WINTER QUARTER AVERAGE ORDINANCE? DO WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER A RATE STUDY IS DONE.
DO WE WANT TO DO IT NOW AND THEN HAVE THE RATE STUDY REFLECT THAT? WHATEVER THE DESIRE OF COUNSEL IS HERE IS WHAT STAFF WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME DEBATE OVER THE HISTORY OF THIS.
I'M NOT PRIVY TO ALL THE DECISIONS OR WHAT WAS SAID OR WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN OR WHY CERTAIN THINGS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE, BUT ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS IF YOU PASS IT, I'LL ENACT IT, WE'LL GET IT GOING AS SOON AS THE ORDINANCE BECOMES LIVE.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER RATE STUDIES DONE, WHICH IS TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S MY OPINION.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GO WITH.
BUT REALLY, WE'RE JUST SEEKING COUNSEL INPUT IN DIRECTION.
>> THANK YOU, TOMMY. I THINK THAT WE DON'T NEED A NEW ORDINANCE.
I THINK WE NEED TO AVOID THE ORDINANCE THAT REMOVED WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING, JUST DUE TO THE FACT OF HOW IT WAS PRESENTED. WE DID THIS.
>> FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A ROLL CALL OR SOMETHING FROM COUNSEL.
DID THEY OR DID THEY KNOW OR GET [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THINK WE WENT INTO THAT PEOPLE ANSWERED, DIDN'T ANSWER.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS THAT WE DON'T NEED A NEW ORDINANCE.
I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO AVOID THAT SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT REMOVED WHEN WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING FROM THE SEPTEMBER 16, 2024 MEETING THAT I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT COUNSEL DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS BEING REMOVED.
THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS IN 2023, WE DID A RATE STUDY.
THAT RECOMMENDED THAT WE IMPLEMENT WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING.
THEN IN 24, THERE WAS ANOTHER RATE STUDY THAT NEVER MENTIONED WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING BUT JUST A RATE INCREASE.
THIS IS THE SAME COMPANY THAT DID BOTH STUDIES.
TO ME, THEY WOULD KNOW THAT WE HAVE WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING.
DID THE COMPANY KNOW THAT WE WAS REMOVING IT WHEN THEY DID THEIR RATE STUDY OR WOULD THEIR RATE STUDY BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
IT WAS AROUND APRIL THAT UTILITY BILLING CAME UNDER MY PURVIEW.
BEFORE THAT, WHATEVER DECISIONS WERE MADE, WHATEVER WAS STATED, WHAT HAPPENED.
>> YEAH. I THINK THAT THIS DISCUSSION AND PROBABLY WISH STAFF WAS MORE WITH GRANT, COUNCIL.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO VOID THAT ORDINANCE?
>> YEAH. CAN YOU GUYS WILL TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. WE CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE COME BACK WITH A FORMAL ORDINANCE THAT DOES THAT, BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW IS RE IMPLEMENTING IT.
BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE VOIDING THE FORMAL ORDINANCE, THAT WE GET A CHANCE TO DRAFT THAT AND BRING THAT TO COUNCIL?
>> THAT'S FINE. THE REASON WHY I FEEL LIKE AVOIDING A NEW ORDINANCE IS JUST BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING WAS REMOVED, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ILLEGALLY OR LEGALLY, BUT IT WAS UNETHICAL THE WAY THAT IT WAS REMOVED.
I BELIEVE THAT IF COUNCIL WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT YOU GUYS WERE REMOVING WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING THEY MIGHT HAVE VOTED A DIFFERENT WAY.
I THINK PUBLIC WOULD HAVE CAME OUT AND SPOKE AGAINST IT.
I THINK THAT THE DECISION TO REMOVE IT IN THE WAY THAT IT WAS REMOVED WAS NOT DUE TO THE CITY NOT ABLE TO AFFORD IT OR OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE THERE WAS NO STUDY DONE TO DETERMINE THAT WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING IS NEGATIVELY AFFECTING THE CITY.
I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO THE RESIDENTS, TO DO WHAT RIGHT AND AVOID THE ORDINANCE, AND ALSO IT MIGHT END UP WITH US HAVING TO REFUND ANOTHER YEAR, LIKE WE HAD TO DO FOR 24.
BUT I THINK THAT THE PROPER WAY IF WE DO NEED TO BRING IT BACK WOULD BE TO BRING THE ORDINANCE BACK, AVOIDING IT.
I FORGOT THE TERM HOW WE WILL AVOID IT, BUT IT WILL AVOID IT AS IT NEVER HAPPENED, WHICH WILL MAKE IT SO WHEN WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING WAS NEVER REMOVED AND MAKING
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IT SO WE WILL PROBABLY OWE FOR 25 AS WELL.I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT TERM IS CALLED, BUT IS A CERTAIN WAY YOU HAVE TO AVOID THAT ORDINANCE?
>> LIKE I SAID, WITH THE DIRECTION OF COUNSEL, I CAN PREPARE THAT ORDINANCE.
STAFF WILL HAVE SOME TIME BETWEEN NOW AND POSSIBLY THE NEXT MEETING TO MAYBE PRESENT SOME FIGURES ON WHAT SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS IN THE LOGISTICS.
I KNOW UTILITY BILLING AND WILL AND HIS DEPARTMENT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS ONCE BEFORE, SO WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THAT INFORMATION IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL ON HOW TO PROCEED.
>> JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION OR JUST MY OPINION, I THINK THAT WHENEVER THAT IS PASSED, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PRESENT A POLICY FOR HOW WINTER QUARTER AVERAGING IS GOING TO WORK.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I KEEP HEARING THE TERM FROM CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS THAT WQA IS AN EQUITABLE SOLUTION WHEN THERE IS NEGATIVE IMPACT POTENTIAL.
SOME OF THESE NEGATIVE IMPACT, SUCH AS MYSELF, WHEN I CLOSED ON MY NEW HOME IN OCTOBER, I HAD TO WATER MY TWO TREES 30 PLUS GALLONS A WEEK EACH ALL WINTER LONG ALL THE WAY INTO THE NEXT SPRING TO MAKE SURE THOSE TREES SURVIVED AND GOT GOOD ROOT SYSTEMS. I WOULD HAVE A VERY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY WINTERLY QUARTERLY AVERAGE AS A NEW HOME OWNER MOVING IN WITH NEW LANDSCAPING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BEGINNING OF WINTER, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE A NEW HOMEOWNER AND YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR LANDSCAPING, YOU WATER IT THROUGH THE WINTER TO MAKE SURE IT ROOTS PROPERLY.
A LOT OF POOL AND SPA BUILDERS IN NEW HOMES JUMP IN RIGHT AFTER THE HOME CLOSES DURING THE WINTER SEASON TO BUILD, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO FILL UP THEIR POOLS AND NOT HAVE A WINTERLY QUARTERLY AVERAGE BASED ON FILLING THOSE POOLS UP.
THEN ALSO JUST YEAR ROUND GARDENERS AND IRRIGATORS WITH THE RISE OF MORE RESIDENTIAL LOT GARDENS, FOOD GARDENS GROWING.
MYSELF, WE GROW IN OUR PROPERTY.
I IRRIGATE YEAR ROUND, VERY RESPONSIBLY, BUT I DO.
AND SO WQA HAS NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PEOPLE.
AS SPEAKING ON YOUR POLICY, I'M TOTALLY FOR WQA, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, I THINK IT SHOULD BE AMENDED TO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THERE TO HELP PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT IT WOULDN'T BE NEGATIVE IMPACT.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK AVOIDING IT IT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP TO TAKING RESPONSIBILITY, AND IF WE NEED TO THEN ALSO IMPLEMENT A POLICY AFTER THAT.
I'M FINE WITH THAT, TOO, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THE POINT BEFORE WE LIKE I SAID, WE UNETHICALLY REMOVED IT. LET'S GET TO THAT POINT.
THEN IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES MOVE FORWARD, LET'S CHANGE IT THE RIGHT WAY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH WINTER QUARTELY AVERAGING, SNEAKING IT OUT WAS NOT THE ANSWER.
IF IT WAS A POLICY WAS A SOLUTION, AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED IN '24, NOT SNEAKING IT INTO AN ORDINANCE.
I'M FOR WHAT'S RIGHT, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT'S A TOMA VIOLATION THAT EVERY ONE OF US, NOT WHEN I WASN'T HERE, BUT THAT THE CITY DID, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS VOTED IN PUBLIC, BUT IT WAS NOT VOTED OUT IN PUBLIC.
I THINK THAT JUST GETTING BACK TO THAT POINT, AND IF ANY ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE AFTER THAT, I'M OPEN TO IT, BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO AVOID THAT ORDINANCE, GET US BACK TO THAT POINT, AND THEN START OVER.
>> I WOULD HAVE A QUESTION IF WE VOID THE ORDINANCE AND GO BACK TO THE WQA, WOULD IT IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENT AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT FILLED UP THEIR SPOOL OR THEIR POOL OR HAVE BEEN WATERING THEIR TREES ALL WINTER, WE GOING TO HAVE PROTECTIONS FOR THEM IN PLACE, OR CAN WE HAVE SOMETHING?
>> I THINK IT'LL BE THE SAME AS IT WAS WHEN WE DID THE LAST TIME WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BACK BILL ANYBODY WHO WE DIDN'T BILL.
I THINK IT WILL BE THE EXACT SAME.
>> I THINK LAST TIME IT WASN'T RETROACTIVELY.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE PAY THAT SHOULD PAY, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OVERCHARGED, THEY SHOULD GET REFUNDED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THE CITY, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A HIT THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS TAKE THE HITS ALL THE TIME.
THIS IS ONE THING THAT UNFORTUNATELY IT IS A MISTAKE THAT THE CITY MADE, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE THAT WAY.
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I SAID, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD HAVE VOTED THE WAY THAT THEY VOTED IF THIS WAS DONE RIGHT, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, THE CITY IS GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER LOSS.A RESIDENT SHOULDN'T TAKE THE LOSS BECAUSE THEY PAID THAT MONEY THAT'S I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT THE CITY OBSERVED TO TAKE.
>> AS LONG AS WE HAVE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE MOVING INTO THE FUTURE FOR FOLKS THAT CAN PUT IN FOR A VARIANCE OR SOMETHING WITH AN APPLICATION SAYING I'VE FILLING UP A POOL, SO DON'T WQA ME THIS TIME AROUND OR SOMETHING.
SOME WAY, SOME PROTECTION IN THE FUTURE FOR PEOPLE.
>> WE'LL TRY TO TACKLE AS MANY OF THOSE ANOMALIES IN USE CASE SCENARIOS THAT ARE OUT THERE WHEN WE TRY TO WRITE A POLICY FOR THIS.
I WANT TO BE SURE THAT THERE IS THAT POLICY THAT'S IN PLACE SO THAT IT IS FAIR AND EQUITABLE FOR ANY PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK AND WHAT THE ACTUAL PROCESS IS FOR IF THEY HAD A WATER LEAK OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> I AGREE, AND I THINK THAT ONE LINE ITEM COULD BE TO REMOVE IT.
TO AVOID IT THE NEXT LINE ITEM COULD BE THE POLICY THAT WE ADOPT WITH IT.
I THINK THAT IT'S SIMPLE, EASY.
WE CAN DO ALL THAT AT ONE TIME.
>> THE POLICY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BENEFIT EVERYBODY.
AS WE SAW, BECAUSE THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE THAT OWED.
I THINK JUST HAVING A CLEAR POLICY WOULD BE GOOD.
>> I'M IN AGREEMENT. I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT IT DOESN'T BENEFIT EITHER, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAYOR, IN TERMS OF JUST LEVEL SETTING, LET'S START FROM SCRATCH AND GO FROM THERE AND GET IT DONE THE RIGHT WAY IN TERMS OF IN THE OPEN.
EVERYBODY IS IN THE KNOW IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
HAVING IT ON THE AGENDA ITEMS WHERE WE VOID IT FIRST, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO, I GUESS, THE DETAILS OF LOGISTICS OF THE POLICY IDEAS.
>> WELL, I WILL BEGIN WORKING ON A DRAFT POLICY AND WORK WITH GRANT TO COME UP WITH THAT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE.
>> I GUESS WE DO SUPPOSED TO TAKE ACTION.
WITH A MOTION, LET'S JUST SAY COUNCIL DOES WANT TO AVOID THAT, WOULD WE JUST MAKE A MOTION TO AVOID OR DO YOU WANT TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK OR TABLE IT.
BUT THIS NEW ORDINANCE, 2025, WE'RE GOING TO AVOID WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS NEW ORDINANCE. WE DON'T.
>> YOU GUYS COULD VOTE DOWN OR DENY THIS CURRENT ORDINANCE.
I THINK WE HAVE STAFF DIRECTION TO PREPARE A FUTURE ORDINANCE AND PRESENT THAT AND ALSO A POLICY AND MAYBE SOME POTENTIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
BUT IF YOU GUYS DON'T WANT TO RE IMPLEMENT IT, YOU COULD CERTAINLY VOTE IT DOWN OR YOU ALL COULD TABLE AND, AGAIN, STILL CONSIDER BOTH OPTIONS AT THE NEXT MEETING OR WHENEVER IT'S TABLE TO.
>> I THINK FOR ME, I WOULD RECOMMEND TO VOTE IT DOWN, AND THEN WE WOULD JUST BRING THE ORDINANCE TO VOID THE ORDINANCE FROM 2024.
THEN ALSO BRING THE POLICY TO PUT IN PLACE TO CLARIFY WHAT WINTER QUARTERLY AVERAGING IS.
>> MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO VOID THE ORDINANCE 2025-12-'08.
>> TO DENY ORDINANCE 2025-12-'08, '13 FOR THE WATER OR WINTER QUARTER AVERAGE AND TO BRING IT BACK IN A FUTURE TIME WITH A NEW ORDINANCE ALONG WITH A POLICY.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
>> SHE'S GOING SORRY. SORRY. MOTION PASSES 6-0.
THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM L13.
[L13. 2025-309 Consider approving the election of a Mayor Pro Tempore; and take appropriate action.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING ELECTION OF A MAYOR PRO TEM AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> YOUR HONOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ELECT RYAN WASHINGTON AS MAYOR PRO TEM.
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MOTION PASSES. CONGRATULATE, MR. WASHINGTON.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, STEVE FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU.
>> THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM L15.
[L15. 2025-321 Consider approving a request from GRBK Edgewood LLC for final plat approval for a property being a 51.875 acre tract of land situated in the Thomas A Rhodes Survey, Abstract No. 741, City of Princeton, Collin County, Texas; and take appropriate action.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FROM GREENBROOK EDGEWOOD, LLC FOR FINAL APPLIED APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING 51 ACRES.
TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE THOMAS ROAD SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 741, CITY OF PRINCETON AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION, MS. ROOS.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, SHI ROS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
THIS IS A PLAT FOR PHASE 6 IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
COUNCIL HAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FIVE PHASES OF THIS PROJECT, FINAL PLAT AND INFRASTRUCTURE ACCEPTANCE.
TODAY, WE'RE BRINGING PHASE 6 TO YOU ALL.
IT IS 185 LOTS, NINE HOA LOTS AND ONE LIFT STATION LOT.
ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY'S ENGINEER.
FOR THIS PHASE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED AND THE APPLICANT HAS DONE IS PROVIDED A NOTE ON THE PLAT THAT SAYS THAT THE SWALE ON IN THE SIDE YARD OF THESE LOTS IS A PART OF THE OVERALL DRAINAGE PLAN AND MUST BE MAINTAINED TO FULFILL THIS PURPOSE.
THIS IS TO INFORM FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT MAINTAINING OR NOT MAINTAINING OR BLOCKING THIS SWALE COULD CAUSE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
RIGHT NOW, WE CANNOT CHANGE THE DRAINAGE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S A FULL PRELIMINARY PLAT DRAINAGE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.
BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS AT LEAST KNOW THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THESE SWALES.
SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ARE HAPPENING BECAUSE PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY FIRST TIME PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THOSE SWALES IN THEIR SIDE YARD ARE FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSE AND NEED TO BE KEPT MAINTAINED.
WE'VE STARTED PUTTING THAT NOTE SO THE TITLE COMPANIES WILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT SOMEWHERE ON THE SURVEY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY.
>> GOING FORWARD, WOULDN'T THE DRAINAGE PASSAGE WAY THEN BETWEEN THE HOMES LIKE THAT, WOULDN'T THAT BE THEN CONSIDERED AN EASEMENT?
>> WE WOULD USUALLY REQUIRE ONE, BUT OUR ORDINANCE DOES NOT SPECIFY THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT.
WHEN WE APPROVED THE DRAINAGE PLAN WAY BACK, THAT IS WHEN WAS THE TIME TO SAY, WE NEED ALL THE DRAINAGE IN DRAINAGE EASEMENT?
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FINAL PLAT IS UNDER THE SHOT CLOCK RIGHT NOW FOR 30 DAYS.
WE ARE ABLE TO SEPARATE THE FINAL PLAT FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND APPROVE JUST THE FINAL PLAT TODAY?
>> BY THE WAY, THE FINAL PLAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO P&Z ON DECEMBER 1ST AND WAS APPROVED BY OPERATION OF LAW.
THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF COUNSEL DID NOT TAKE AN ACTION ON THE PLAT.
>> IF YOU'RE ENTERTAINING A MOTION, I WOULD MOTION TO SEPARATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND FINAL PLAT AND ONLY APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT TODAY.
A HUGE PART OF OUR PROBLEM IS WE ARE DOING INFRASTRUCTURE AND FINAL PLATS AT THE SAME TIME, AND WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
WE NEED TO SEPARATE THE TWO AND DO THE BUILDING PROCESS THE WAY THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
>> THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS IT WOULD BE GREAT IF COUNSEL IN YOUR MOTION WOULD ALSO SAY WHAT MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BECAUSE ACCORDING TO OUR ORDINANCES, THEY'VE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS, ACCORDING TO OUR ENGINEERS, BUILT TO THE PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED.
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>> THE SUGGESTION COUNCILWOMAN TODD'S MAKING RIGHT NOW, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN HAVE LIKE A PRESENTATION ON HOW THAT CAN LOOK JUST TO SEE WHAT THAT ENCOMPASSES INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION TO NIGHT ON IT, LIKE ACTUALLY GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING?
>> FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YES, SIR WE CAN BRING.
>> IF IT IMPROVES OVERALL APPROVALS OF THESE THINGS AND WHY NOT DO IT, BUT TO HAVE A BETTER FULL SCOPE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE CAN BRING YOU A PRESENTATION ON ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT IN THIS PHASE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND WHAT REVIEW WAS DONE.
>> MY THING IS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED, GO THROUGH ALL THE STUFF, THEN WE ACCEPT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE FOR MONTHS, IS THAT WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE PROPER STRUCTURE FOR BUILDING APPROVALS.
IF WE CONTINUE TO DO FINAL PLATS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ARE PUTTING OURSELVES IN A TIGHT SITUATION.
APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT GIVES THEM THEIR FINAL PLAT, BUT THEY CANNOT GET A BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL EVERYTHING IS RIGHT.
SEPARATING THE INFRASTRUCTURE MEANS THAT THEIR PAST INFRASTRUCTURE CAN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN WITH THE QUALITY AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE, SHOULD WE BE APPROVING IT? IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT STUFF LIKE THE WALL THAT THEY STOOD HERE AND TOLD ME WAS FIXED, AND I JUST WENT WEEKS AGO TO LOOK AT IT AND IT WAS NOT FIXED.
WE SPRAY PAINTED IT TOGETHER DURING MY WALK THROUGH.
WE GAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO HAVE THAT WALL DONE.
THEY CAME BACK, I ASKED, THEY SAID IT WAS DONE.
SEPARATING THE INFRASTRUCTURE GIVES US THE ABILITY TO BE CHECKING THAT BETTER AND TO HOLD THAT AND PUSH IT BACK UNTIL IT GETS DONE RIGHT.
>> I THINK THE APPLICANT WANTS TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
>> HELLO, BRIAN HONEYCUTT WITH THE DEVELOPER.
MS. TODD, I WAS UP HERE, TOLD YOU THAT WALL WAS FIXED.
I WAS JUST MADE AWARE A FEW DAYS AGO THAT YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING WAS NOT COMPLETED.
I'D LIKE TO GO WALK IT WITH YOU IF YOU COULD SHOW ME.
>> I HAVE A PICTURE I CAN SHOW YOU JUST IN CASE SOMEONE WENT AND TRIED TO FIX IT SINCE I WAS THERE.
I HAVE A PICTURE, AND IT'S TIME STAMPED FROM THE MONDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, THAT WALL THAT WE WERE TOGETHER WAS SPRAY PAINTED WAS NOT DONE.
SINCE OUR LAST MEETING WHEN YOU ASKED SHAI AND TEAM TO COME WALK THE WALLS AT SOUTHBRIDGE 4, WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES AND WALKED THIS WITH HER FOR SIX AND SEVEN IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING JUST SO THAT WE COULD STAND HERE AND SAY, WE WALKED THE WALLS.
WE HAD THE ENGINEERING LETTERS TO SUPPORT THAT.
ALL THE FIELD WORK HAS BEEN WALKED NUMEROUS TIMES WITH THE CITY.
SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S LEFT TO BE INSPECTED ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE LAST TIME I WAS TOLD THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS INSPECTED AND WAS GOOD, IT WASN'T.
>> I NEED TO KNOW THAT IT'S BEING DONE RIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE HER TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW FULLY.
>> I DID WALK IT, AND AFTER WE WENT, THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN FIXED, AND I DO HAVE THE PICTURES FROM THIS MORNING.
>> AND THE DIRT WORK FOR THE ONE WITH THE WALL, I MEAN, THE WALL ISN'T FULLY CONSTRUCTED.
I UNDERSTAND, LIKE THE STRUCTURAL PART IN THE CENTER, AND IT'S THE MORE DECORATIVE PART, I GUESS, ON THE EXTERIOR IS GOING ON THERE.
YOU BUILD A WALL, AND THE DIRT WORK IS A SEPARATE THING.
YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WALL, AND THE DIRT WORK IS A PILED HIGHER THAN SAID WALL, AND YOU'RE STILL COMPACTING IT.
BECAUSE AS YOU'RE COMPACTING IT, YOU ARE NOW PUTTING PRESSURE ON THAT WALL.
>> IS THIS DURING A HOME BEING CONSTRUCTED?
>> NO. RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT NO HOUSES ARE AT.
THE WALL IS PARTIALLY BEING BUILT. PARTIAL.
>> WHICH PHASE ARE YOU REFERRING TO?
>> WAS THAT A BIG WALL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
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>> YEAH, AND IT HAD LIKE A BIG OF DIRT AND THEY HAVE TO FLATTEN IT STILL AND THE WALL ISN'T EVEN COMPLETED.
AS YOU ARE DOING THAT, YOU ARE PUTTING PRESSURE ONTO THE GROUND.
IT PUSHES PRESSURE TO A WALL THAT ISN'T COMPLETED.
THAT'S NOT PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE SAYING YES TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND A FINAL PLAT WHEN THINGS LIKE THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
>> THIS IS BEING REVIEWED AND MONITORED BY A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
>> I'VE HAD A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER TELL ME THAT THE WALL WAS GREAT AND YOU PUT YOUR HAND IN IT IN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT.
>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I KNOW WHICH DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU CAN NOT COMPARE EVERYBODY TO ONE EXPERIENCE.
>> OKAY. YOUR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER SAID YOUR WALLS WERE DONE AND THEY WEREN'T.
THE ONE FOR THE DETENTION POND AREA.
IT WAS THAT YOU ALL SAID IT WAS DONE, IT WASN'T.
>> I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, ARE YOU SAYING YOU NEED TO GO WALK PHASE 6 AND 7 TO DEEM IT COMPLETE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? BECAUSE CITY IS SAYING THEY'VE WALKED IT.
THERE'S ALL THE ACCEPTANCE LETTERS NEEDED TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT.
SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU NEED TO GO WALK THIS IN ORDER ACCEPT IT?
>> I'M HAPPY TO APPROVE THIS FINAL PLAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE OF A CONVERSATION WITH OUR DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENTS.
>> YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE DELAYING THIS.
YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION. WHAT DO YOU NOT HAVE?
>> HOW ARE YOU SAYING THAT BY DOING THE DIRT WORK RIGHT NOW ON THOSE WALLS?
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PHASE THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT? PHASE 8 IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS PHASE 8.
THAT WALL IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, YES.
THE WALLS IN PHASE 6 AND THE WALLS IN PHASE 7 ARE COMPLETE AND HAVE BEEN SIGNED OFF BY THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
THEY HAVE BEEN WALKED WITH THE CITY?
>> I THINK AT THIS TIME IT WILL BE BEST TO ENTERTAIN THE MOTION ON THIS.
>> WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE STAFF REPORT AND THE ASSURANCES PROVIDED WITH ALL THE DETAILS THAT ARE IN ALL EXHIBITS A THROUGH G. I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE ASSURANCES WE NEED THAT THIS IS READY FOR APPROVAL.
SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L 15 2021-321.
>> I MISSED THAT MARKS, SECOND.
>> ALRIGHT MOTION PASSES. THIS AND TAKE US TO ITEM L 16, MS. COOK.
[L16. 2025-322 Consider approving a request from GRBK Edgewood LLC for final plat approval for a property being a 66.052 acre tract of land situated in the Thomas A Rhodes Survey, Abstract No. 741, City of Princeton, Collin County, Texas; and take appropriate action.]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FROM GREENBROOK EDGEWOOD, LLC FOR FINAL PLAT APPROVAL FOR A PROPERTY BEING 66 ACRE TRACK OF LAND SITUATED, THOMAS ROAD SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 741, CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION, MRS. ROOS.
>> GOOD EVENING, SHAI ROOS AGAIN.
THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S GOT 226 LOTS IN SIX HOA LOTS.
AGAIN, THE FINAL PLAT MEETS THE CODE, AS IT IS TODAY.
THEY MEET THE DRAINAGE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED DURING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THERE IS NO DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THE APPLICANT HAS PUT A NOTE ON THERE SIMILAR TO THE PHASE 6 THAT MAKE SURE THE FUTURE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE SWALES ARE A PART OF DRAINAGE PLAN, AND IF THEY WERE NOT MAINTAINED, IT WOULD CAUSE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
OTHER THAN THAT, AGAIN, OUR THIRD PARTY ENGINEERS HAVE APPROVED THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE APPLICANTS ENGINEER HAS SIGNED OFF ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHEN I WALKED THROUGH IT THIS MORNING AND LAST WEEK, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE NOT CLEAN HAD ALREADY BEEN CLEANED UP BECAUSE OF THE RAINS, A LOT OF THINGS THAT GOTTEN ON THE STREETS, BUT ALL THE STORM WATER WAS FIXED, THE WALLS WERE FIXED.
THERE ARE A FEW PLACES THAT THEY EXPLAINED HOW THE OUTER WALL IS JUST COSMETIC AND WILL BE FIXED WHEN THE HOMEBUILDER FINISHES BUILDING.
WHEN SOME OF THE PLACES WHERE THE HOMEBUILDERS ARE DOING WORK, THE CAPS COME OFF AND SO THEY SAID THEY WOULD FINISH IT UP IF WE WANTED,
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BUT IT WOULD AGAIN COME OFF AND WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE.OVER THE YEARS, ALSO, PLEASE KNOW THAT THESE CRACKS CAN SHOW UP IN THE OUTER LAYER, AND THAT WOULD BE THE HOA'S RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THEM LOOKING GOOD.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY STRUCTURAL IMPACT.
>> ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM L 162025-322.
>> I WILL SECOND, THIS IS TERRANCE.
>> WE HAVE A SECOND. MR. JOHNSON.
MOTION PASSES. THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM L 17, MS. COOK.
[L17. 2025-317 Consider approving a Non-Standard Wastewater Service Agreement with D.L. Caldwell; and take appropriate action. Presented by Shai Roos, Director of Development Services. ]
>> CONSIDER APPROVING A NONSTANDARD WASTEWATER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH DO CALDWELL AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION PRESENTED BY MS. ROOS.
THIS IS AN NSSA AGREEMENT FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT JUST OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS FM 982 AND MYRICK JUST NORTH OF IT.
THEY'RE NOT IN OUR CITY LIMITS.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE IN OUR CCN, SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE WASTEWATER SERVICE, AND THEY WILL BE PAYING THE CONNECTION FEE, AND WE'RE PROVIDING IT.
THIS IS JUST AN AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL BUILD ALL THE WASTEWATER FACILITIES REQUIRED TO SERVE THEM AND DEDICATE IT TO THE CITY.
THEY'LL BUILD IT AND DEDICATE IT TO US.
MAKE SURE THEY'RE BUILDING IT TO OUR STANDARDS.
>> OKAY. AND THEN, I KNOW ETJ ARE OUR IN CITY LIMITS, BUT ARE WE INSPECTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY BUILT?
>> WE WILL BE BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE TO OUR STANDARDS.
>> YES. IT'LL BE BUILT TO OUR STANDARDS.
IT'S FOR ONE EXISTING FACILITY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON SEPTIC, AND FOR THEIR BUSINESS PURPOSES, THEY NEED A SANITARY SEWER TAP.
IT'S NOT REALLY ADDING ANYTHING OTHER THAN ONE SEWER TAP FOR CHILDREN WITH A RESTROOM.
AT THE TIME IS THERE ANY MOTION.
>> YEAH, I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM L 17, MY APOLOGIES.
>> I'M MISSING A VOTE. MOTION PASSES.
>> I HAD JUST ONE THING TO ADD FOR OUR PLATS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
MS. TODD WAS RIGHT ON HOW TO DO THE PROCESS CORRECTLY TO AVOID ANY OF THESE THINGS HAPPENING AT COUNCIL.
AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE INSTITUTED A PROCESS WHICH WILL HAVE EVERYTHING IN LINE.
WE WILL DO PRELIMINARY PLAT, THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS, YOU WILL LOOK AT THE PLANS, YOU'LL APPROVE THE PLANS, YOU'LL ACCEPT THE PLANS, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE FINAL PLAT.
THEN WE'LL DO THE FULL SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, AND THEN WE WILL GIVE THE BUILDING PERMIT.
NO BUILDING WILL BE STARTED OR ALLOWED TO HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL FINAL PLAT HAS BEEN RECORDED, AND A SITE PLAN REVIEW HAS BEEN DONE.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAD COMING FROM THE PAST, BUT STARTING TODAY'S CYCLE, WE WILL BE DOING IT IN THIS PROCESS.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> AND AT THIS TIME, TIME IS 11:12, AND WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE.
[I. EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]
AND THIS WILL TAKE US INTO EXECUTIVE.UNDER TERMS OF CHAPTER 551 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CITY COUNCIL MAY ENTER INTO A CLOSED SESSION OR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING SECTION 551.071.
THIS WILL BE IN REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT AND PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT WITH SYKES GROUP, TAXATION OF PREVIOUS NX PROPERTIES, SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT REGARDING JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES AND WATER AND SEWER SERVICE TERRITORY WITH CITY OF MCKINNEY.
[03:35:04]
THEN WE'LL ALSO BE GOING INTO SECTION 551.704 PERSONNEL MATTERS FOR CITY MANAGER.[J. ACTION PERTAINING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
AND THIS WOULD TAKE US OUT OF EXECUTIVE.THERE WAS ACTIONS PRESENTED TO EXECUTIVES, SO AT THIS TIME, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION. YEAH.
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MICHAEL MASHBURN'S VOLUNTARY RESIGNATION AS CITY MANAGER, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. MASHBURN, AND I BELIEVE HE IS A GOOD MAN, AND I WISH HIM THE BEST IN HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
>> I'D LIKE TO SECOND THE MOTION AND ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS ALSO.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND. MR. DEFFIBAUGH.
>> AND I'LL ECHO THAT AS WELL TO MR. MASHBURN AS WE VOTE HERE.
THERE'S ONE MORE ITEM TO MOTION.
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR ESCOBAR TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT TO RETAIN MR. JEFF JONES AS ALTERNATE CITY MANAGER OF THE CITY.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO I SECOND?
>> MS. TODD SECOND. MOTION PASSES 6-0.
[L18. 2025-310 Consider approving a request for items to be placed on a future agenda and NOT for discussion of these requests.]
THIS WILL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM L 18, CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THESE REQUESTS.DOES ANYBODY HAVE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS?
>> JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE LIBRARY ITEM SHOWS UP IN ONE OF OUR JANUARY MEETINGS.
[M. REPORT AGENDA]
>> ALL RIGHT. AND THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM M, REPORT AGENDA, NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MONDAY, JANUARY 12, 2026, AT 6:30 PM.
NEXT REGULAR EDC MEETING, TUESDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2025 AT 6:00 PM.
NEXT REGULAR CDC MEETING, WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2025, AT 6:00 PM.
NEXT AD HOC COMMITTEE MEETING, TO BE DATED.
NEXT HRC REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING TO BE DATED.
NEXT REGULAR P&Z MEETING, MONDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2025 AT 6:30 PM.
NEXT LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2026 AT 6:30 PM. I'M SORRY?
>> OH, SORRY. FEBRUARY 19, 2026, AT 6:30 PM.
NEXT REGULAR PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD MEETING TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 2026 AT 6:00 PM.
AT THIS TIME, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> YEAH, AND I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> MR. TERRANCE, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
>> ANY NAYS? ALL RIGHT, THE TIME IS 11:42.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.