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WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A QUICK ROLL CALL.
ROBERT RODRIGUEZ, PRESENT CRYSTAL JACKSON, PRESENT ANTHONY LYNCH, PRESENT STEPHANIE PARKER, PRESENT TONYA JONES, PRESENT MAXINE ELLIS.
AND MYSELF, DARIAN MCCOY, IS PRESENT.
THE INVOCATION, CAN WE BOW OUR HEADS, PLEASE? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WISDOM, AND SUPPORT AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING.
HELP US TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION.
ALLOW US TO GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP AND NURTURE THE BONDS THAT BRING US TOGETHER.
FILL US WITH YOUR GRACE AS WE MAKE DECISIONS AND REMIND US THAT ALL WE ACCOMPLISH IS FOR THE GREATER GLORY.
AND WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S NAME.
OKAY, THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING FOR ANY PUBLIC APPEARANCES.
ANYBODY HERE? NO ONE HERE? OKAY, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
[G. CONSENT AGENDA]
OUR CONSENT AGENDA, G1 2026-2024, APPROVING APRIL 7TH BOARD MINUTES, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ITEM G.1-2026-024, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MEETING MINUTES FROM APRIL 7TH.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE PAST THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND MOVE ON
[J. REGULAR AGENDA]
TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.J.1, 2026-025, UPDATE ON PRINCETON PLAYS.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AS FAR AS THE PRINCETON BRANDING, OUR MISSION STATEMENT, AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE AS A DEPARTMENT IN A WHOLE OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.
WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WAS THE BRANDING LOGO FOR PRINCETON PLAYS, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
AS WE ALL KNOW, PRINCETON WAS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE COUNTRY.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, WE NEEDED AN IDENTITY, ESPECIALLY WITH A LOT OF THE NEW PARKS AND REC ACTIVITIES COMING ONLINE, WHICH WILL FEED INTO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
BUT TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE, WHERE WE WANT TO BE, AND SOMETHING THAT'S BOLD AND STANDS OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY THE NEXT DECADE FOR PRINCETON.
WHAT WE HAVE IS PRINCETON PLAYS.
YOU SEE SOME PICTURES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THE MISSION FOR THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IS THE CITY OF PRINCETON PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IS DEDICATED TO BUILDING A VIBRANT, WELCOMING COMMUNITY THROUGH PLAYS.
PARKS AND REC PROMOTES PLAYS THROUGH CREATIVE PROGRAMMING, SAFE AND BEAUTIFUL SPACES, AND A COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE.
TOGETHER, WE MAKE EVERY DAY AN ADVENTURE AND EVERY PARK A PLACE TO GROW, PLAY, AND THRIVE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT IS THE IMPORTANCE TO PARKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WHETHER IT'S PASSIVE OR ACTIVE SPORTS FIELDS, TRAILS, THEY ALL PROVIDE A SPACE WHICH ENHANCES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYBODY.
NO MATTER THE AGE, WHAT YOUR ABILITIES ARE, PARKS ARE A VITAL PORTION TO GROWING PROPERLY AS A CITY.
YES, WE KNOW WE'RE GAINING ROOFTOPS, COMMERCIAL IS COMING,
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AND ON THE SAME TOKEN, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GROWING PROPERLY WITH PARKS AND AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS, AND NOT JUST COMMUNITY PARKS WITHIN YOUR DEVELOPMENTS, PUBLIC PARKS FOR EVERYBODY TO ENJOY.AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS WHAT IS PRINCETON PLACE? SO WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING OUR BRAND, WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT'S BOLD, NEW, CLEAN.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE FOCUS POINTS THAT WE HAD, BUT ALSO ENJOYABLE AND ACTIVE, FUN.
AND WHAT DO YOU GET WITH THAT IS PLAYS.
SO LOOKING AT IT, IT'S AN ACRONYM FOR PROMOTE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, LEAD WITH CREATIVITY AND ACCESSIBILITY.
ACTIVATE SPACES AND RECREATION SPACES FOR WELLNESS.
USE FOCUSED AND FAMILY-FRIENDLY PROGRAMS AND SUPPORT SAFETY IN ALL ACTIVITIES AND SPACES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE BUILDING THESE NEW PARKS, THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.
THEY'RE SAFE, THEY'RE FAMILY-FOCUSED, AND SOMETHING NEW AND INNOVATIVE.
BOOK, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO REFER BACK TO IT BECAUSE IT'S THE NEWEST ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THAT PARK IS BEING BUILT WITH NEW IDEAS, LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS BECAUSE SOME PLAYGROUNDS, THEY GET OUTDATED, RIGHT? I HATE TO SAY IT.
YOU PUT A PLAYGROUND IN TODAY IN 10 YEARS, IT MAY BE OUTDATED AND NEED REMODELING, MAY NEED SOME NEW SURFACING, JUST AS WE HAVE SOME PARKS AROUND THE CITY THAT WE LOOK AT.
BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THESE NEW, WHEN I'M GOING TO SAY FUTURE PARKS, THAT WE ARE BEING TIME SENSITIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GROW WITH THE COMMUNITY IN ITSELF.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PRINTS AND PLAYS, I'M HAPPY TO.
YOU DID BRING UP, WELL, SO TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE IS REGARDING JJ BOOK, BECAUSE YOU DID BRING THAT.
YOU BROUGHT UP JJ BOOK, AND THAT IS ACTUALLY DIVIDED INTO TWO PARKS, RIGHT, WHERE THE SKATE PARKS CAN BE, AND THEN WHERE THE POND IS WITH THE BEAUTIFUL FOUNTAIN AND THAT.
ARE WE GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'LL BE PUTTING FISH BACK IN THERE AND FILLING IT TO ITS FULL, YOU KNOW, LEVEL FOR THE FISH TO BE ABLE TO BE IN THERE AND PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THAT FISHING? AND ARE THERE ANY FUTURE PLANS WITH THE JJ BOOK, THAT PART WHERE THE FOUNTAIN IS? SO THAT'S QUESTION ONE WITH AN A AND B.
OKAY, SO I'LL ANSWER QUESTION ONE.
THE ANSWER IS AS FAR AS THE FISH GOES, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
THE COMPLETION AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CROSS MILL, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT PARK.
SO IF ANYBODY IS SAYING THE ROADS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN INSTALLED BY THE DEVELOPER, THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER POND THAT FEEDS IN NOW TO...
MAXINE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE WALKED THAT AREA OR SEEN THOSE OTHER PARKS AND GAZEBOS.
SO THAT ACTUALLY, THAT AREA FEEDS INTO IT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT IS THE DEVELOPER, FOUR CROSS MILL HORTON, WHAT THEY'VE HAD TO DO IS ACTUALLY DRAIN DOWN THE POND AT JJ BOOK TO INSTALL, LET'S SAY INTERCEPTORS, THEIR STORM WATER FROM THEIR POND THAT FEEDS INTO THAT ONE.
WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, STOCK IT WITH FISH, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER HAVE TO COME IN, DRAIN THE POND DOWN, AND NOW WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DEAD FISH, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST NOT A GOOD LOOK, AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE ECOSYSTEM.
NOW THAT ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, THE POND WILL BE STOCKED THIS YEAR.
AND AS FAR AS FUTURE EXPANSION TO THAT PARK, WE'VE GOT TWO SIDES TO IT.
YOU KNOW, MENTION ACTIVE AND PASSIVE PLAY.
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BECAUSE IT IS SPLIT INTO TWO PARCELS, THAT WILL ACTUALLY REMAIN VERY SIMILAR.NOW WE'LL HAVE SOME FUTURE EXPANSION.
IT WILL JUST BE SEATING AREAS, PROBABLY SOME MORE PAVILIONS AROUND IT.
THAT WILL BE BASICALLY THE EXTENT AROUND JJ BOOK.
MORE OF HIKING, WALKING, FISHING, RECREATIONAL USE IN THE EVENINGS.
BUT ALSO ON THE ADJACENT SIDE, YOU HAVE THE ACTIVE PLAY, WHICH WILL HAVE SOME ARTIFICIAL TURF SURFACING FOR, YOU KNOW, THROWING THE FOOTBALL AROUND, SKATE PARK, BASKETBALL COURT, LARGE PLAYGROUND, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT RESTROOM FACILITY.
SO THAT WILL BE THE ACTIVE SIDE AS WELL.
AND YOU MENTIONED THE WALKING TRAIL.
IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS IN EXPANDING? THE WALKING TRAIL, YOU KNOW, IN ONE DIRECTION, CONNECTING IT MAYBE WITH THE NEW COMMUNITY OR TAKING IT, A WALKING TRAIL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOWN TOWARDS MYRICK WHERE WINCHESTER IS, OR IS IT WHERE IT'S AT? YES, SO SOME OF THAT IS DEFINITELY IN THE LOOKS AS NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME ONLINE.
THESE ARE KEY POINTS THAT I HIT ON IS CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER PURCHASES A PROPERTY, THESE ARE THE TALKS THAT WE HAVE ON THE FRONT END WITH THAT DEVELOPER WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE DESIGN AND THEIR LAYOUTS.
SO THESE ARE KEY TALKING POINTS BETWEEN PARKS AND REC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE CITY WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER OR THE DEVELOPER, SHALL I SAY.
SO THAT WAY WE GET THOSE CONNECTIONS.
CONNECTION POINTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT'S JUST REGARDING THE AGENDA.
I'M THINKING THAT ALL THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THERE'S NO ACTION TO TAKE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY ANY SPECIFIC ACTION FOR THEM.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SO MOST OF THE ITEMS TONIGHT ARE MORE UPDATES, SO THERE ARE NO ACTION.
ITEMS TO BE TAKEN AT THIS TIME.
WE DID HAVE A FEW LAST AS NEXT MONTH.
THERE WILL BE ACTUALLY ACTION ITEMS TO TAKE NEXT MONTH BUT THIS ONE'S THIS MONTH'S AGENDA REALLY IS MORE UPDATES.
I JUST WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SAY CONSIDER DISCUSSION.
SO I'M SPOILED WITH YOUR LAST ONE THANK YOU.
YEAH, SO LIKE THE PRINCETON PLAYS THAT WAS KIND OF THE HISTORY HOW WE DEVELOPED WHAT WE WHERE WE ARE AS A WHOLE FROM A PRINCETON PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
GOING BACK TO THE SECOND POND THAT YOU MENTIONED, WILL THE CITY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MAINTENANCE OR ANYTHING THAT'S SOLELY ON THAT HOA? THAT'S ALL THAT HOA.
EVEN WITH THE CONNECTIVITY TO IT? YES.
SO IT FEEDS DOWNHILL, BASICALLY, AND THAT IS A MUD.
FROM CROSS MILL AS THEY HAVE, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE PONDS LOCATED WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION.
ONE'S ALMOST THE SIZE OF A LAKE.
ONE'S PRETTY BIG BY THEIR REC CENTER, I SAY REC CENTER, THE AMENITY CENTER THAT THEY HAVE, BUT I WILL SAY IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
IT'LL BE A VERY NICE COMMUNITY AND FIT IN.
VERY NICELY WITH ARCADIA, WINCHESTER, AND BROOKSIDE.
YEAH, AND THAT'S LOCATED DIRECTLY WITH THE TWO NEW SCHOOLS THAT WILL BE COMING ONLINE FROM THE ISD NEXT YEAR, BUDS PARK, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK THE OTHER ONE.
GREEN IS, YEAH, IT'S ONE OF THEM.
OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM J.2, 2026-026, UPDATE ON YOUTH SPORTS.
SO, IT WAS BROUGHT UP, WANTED AN UPDATE AS FAR AS ONE OF THE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER WITHIN PARKS AND REC.
THIS WAS A REQUESTED ITEM FOR YOUTH SPORTS, BUILDING COMMUNITY THROUGH PLAY.
SO WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WITHIN THE CITY OF PRINCETON, THE RECREATION COORDINATOR, AND THIS IS HER, JESSICA, FOR
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ALL YOUTH SPORTS AND ALL THE ACTIVITIES.AND AS I GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THAT IS A LOT OF WORK IN ITSELF AND THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD OVER THE FEW YEARS.
SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PROGRAM PLANNING, MANAGEMENT, ALL REGISTRATIONS AND ADMINISTRATIONS FOR THOSE, THE SCHEDULING, THE FACILITY CONDITIONS.
THE VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT AND THE COMMUNICATIONS.
PLAN, ORGANIZE, AND OVERSEE ALL THE LEAGUES.
WE ACTUALLY, WHEN WE STARTED OUT AS A YOUTH ORGANIZATION, WE PIGGYBACKED AND WE ACTUALLY HAD MULTIPLE OTHER CITIES PLAY WITH US.
WE STILL DO, WE STILL CARRY SOME OF THOSE CITIES ALONG.
FARMERSVILLE, BLUE RIDGE, MELISSA, AND PRINCETON IN OUR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL ORGANIZATIONS, BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO FOOTBALL WE ACTUALLY KIND OF PIGGYBACK WITH SIMILAR SIZED SCHOOLS LIKE THE ISD.
SO WE HAVE WHICH IS TYFL, TEXOMA YOUTH FOOTBALL LEAGUE, AND THAT'S MCKINNEY, MELISSA, ANNA, SHERMAN, DENISON, PARIS.
ALL OF THE SCHOOLS THAT THE ISD CURRENTLY PLAYS ONCE THEY GET INTO SEVENTH, EIGHTH, ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, WE SEE THOSE SAME SCHOOLS IN OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS EARLY ON FROM SECOND GRADE ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH SIXTH.
BENEFITS OF YOUTH SPORTS, BUILDS TEAMWORK AND COMPETENCE, ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, DEVELOPS LEADERSHIP.
CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR FRIENDSHIPS AND SOCIAL CONNECTIONS, TEACHES DISCIPLINE, RESPONSIBILITY, AND TIME MANAGEMENT.
I'LL HIT ON THE FOURTH BULLET POINT HERE, YOU KNOW, CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR FRIENDSHIPS AND SOCIAL CONNECTIONS.
IT GETS KIDS OFF OUTSIDE, OUTDOORS, OFF THE COMPUTER.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THOSE AREN'T GREAT THINGS, LIKE AI TECHNOLOGY TODAY, WONDERFUL, BUT ALSO KIDS NEED SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT, SOCIAL SKILLS THAT THEY DEVELOP THROUGH SOME OF OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS. THIS IS THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND KIND OF THE DATES AND TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT WE OFFER SPRING AND FALL.
WE HAVE SOCCER, T-BALL, BASEBALL, AND SOFTBALL.
IN THE FALL SEASON, WHICH IS ACTUALLY REGISTRATION, IS OPEN UP.
WE HAVE FLAG FOOTBALL, TACKLE FOOTBALL, CHEERLEADING, AND VOLLEYBALL.
VOLLEYBALL REGISTRATION, I BELIEVE, OPENS UP IN THE SUMMER FOR THE FALL SEASON.
AND THEN WE WINTER BASKETBALL.
SO AS SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN YOUR BOARD PACKET, THIS IS THE GROWTH OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
NOT INCLUDING WHAT WE HAD EVEN BEFORE THEN.
02,300, ROUGHLY, WE ACTUALLY, DURING COVID TIMES, WE HAD A DECREASE IN NUMBERS.
BUT SINCE 2022, IT'S REALLY JUMPED UP OVER THE LAST FIVE.
BEING ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE COUNTRY, NATURALLY THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
IN PARTICIPATION OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS ALONE AND IT'S ALL MANAGED THROUGH ONE ONE INDIVIDUAL SO WHAT YOU SEE AT 3650 KIDS ALMOST YOU KNOW THAT'S 7200 PARENTS FACILITY AND FIELDS THIS IS WHERE WE STRUGGLE IF ANYBODY'S SEEN CALDWELL PHASE TWO, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT CALDWELL PARK RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS GOING TO ASSIST AND HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE STRESS ON THE SOCCER FIELDS AND THE MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITIES, BUT FIELD SPACES WHERE WE ARE IN DIRE NEED AS A WHOLE AND AS A CITY.
AND WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THE BOND AND WITH PHASE TWO, ARTIFICIAL TURF ON THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS.
THOUGH THAT DOES NOT CREATE MORE SPACE, IT ALLEVIATES THE RAIN OUTS.
SO IF IT WAS TO RAIN TODAY, A YEAR AGO.
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WE WOULD BE OUT OF COMMISSION FOR TWO TO THREE DAYS BASED ON THE WEATHER BECAUSE IT'S CLAY, IT TURNS TO MUD.NOW IF IT RAINS, AS SOON AS IT STOPS RAINING, WE'RE PLAYING.
BUT THESE ARE THE FIELDS AND THE SPACES THAT WE HAVE.
PROGRAM OPERATIONS AND SCHEDULING, THE ONLINE REGISTRATION IS THROUGH CIVIC PLUS.
ACCESSIBLE THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, THE CITY OF PRINCETON.
YOU GO ON THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, CLICK ONLINE REGISTRATIONS AND IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THIS PAGE, CREATE AN ACCOUNT, GET YOUR KIDS REGISTERED.
WHAT WE HAVE WEEKLY PRACTICES, WE'D LOVE TO OFFER TWO.
SOMETIMES IT IS LIMITED TO ONE BASED ON AVAILABILITY AND THE NUMBER OF KIDS.
I MEAN WE HAVE ROUGHLY 1,500 KIDS IN SOCCER FOR THE SPRING OR SO, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 1,500 KIDS ON TWO FIELDS.
GAME SCHEDULING, WEEKLY SCHEDULES, COORDINATED ACROSS MULTIPLE DIVISIONS, AND THEN WEATHER ADJUSTMENTS.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, MARCH AND APRIL ARE VERY RAINY SEASONS FOR TEXAS.
LUCKILY, HAVING THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, WE'RE REALLY NOT RESCHEDULING TOO MANY GAMES ON THE TURF UNLESS, OF COURSE, THERE'S LIGHTNING OR IT IS RAINING, YOU KNOW, POUR DOWN RAIN AT THE MOMENT OF THE GAME.
BUT AS MENTIONED, ONCE IT'S FINISHED RAINING OR IT CLEARS OUT, WE RESUME PLAY IMMEDIATELY.
AND THINKING LONG TERM FOR PRINCETON, AS WE'RE CONSTRUCTING AND MIGRATING INTO NEW FIELDS.
NEW FACILITIES AND THE FUTURE GROWTH, ARTIFICIAL TURF WILL BE THE ONLY THING THAT'S ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR THOSE PLAYING SURFACES BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY THE PLAYABILITY, IT'S ALSO THE MAINTENANCE AND, SHALL I SAY, THE COST SAVINGS FROM LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT ASPECT.
AVERAGE SOCCER GAMES PER SEASON, WE HAVE 425.
T-BALL AND SOFTBALLS, BASEBALL, THERE'S 700.
355 GAMES OF BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, 50.
VOLLEYBALL IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THE GIRLS THAT PLAYED THE VOLLEYBALL, THEY PRACTICE IN PRINCETON, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT A LARGE ENOUGH GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS TO PLAY, SO WE PLAY THEM THROUGH.
PLANO SPORTS AUTHORITY IN MCKINNEY.
SO THEY'LL PRACTICE IN PRINCETON, UTILIZE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GYMS AND FACILITIES, BUT WE JUST TRANSFER THEIR REGISTRATION OVER TO PSA IN MCKINNEY.
AND ROUGHLY THE SAME WITH FLAG FOOTBALL.
MR. LYNCH, I BELIEVE YOU COACH A TEAM.
FIRST SEASON COACHING, BUT BEEN INVOLVED FOR YEARS.
SO WE NEED COACHES, WE NEED OFFICIALS, REFEREES, UMPIRES.
THERE'S A SHORTAGE THROUGHOUT NORTH TEXAS AND TEXAS IN A WHOLE.
AS MENTIONED, TEXAS AND COLLIN COUNTY DIRECTLY IS, YOU KNOW, RAPIDLY GROWING.
WHICH MEANS THERE IS MORE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, WHICH MEANS THOSE NEEDS FOR COACHES AND OFFICIALS ARE AT AN ALL-TIME NEED AT THE MOMENT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, BUILD CONFIDENCE IN TEAMWORK, BE A POSITIVE ROLE MODEL.
EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT COACHING, YOU'RE NOT ASSISTING, THERE'S WAYS TO STILL GET INVOLVED, WHETHER IT'S JUST BEING A TEAM MANAGER, SOMEBODY THAT HELPS.
WITH THE LINE OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE COACH AND THE PARENTS.
THESE ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S VOLUNTEER COACHES THAT THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET INVOLVED AS FAR AS THE COMMUNICATION, BUT THEY KNOW THE SKILL ON THE FIELD.
THEY CAN ASSIST ON THE FIELD WHILE SOMEBODY ELSE COULD ALSO HELP ASSIST WITH THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE PARENTS AND THE COACH ITSELF.
CURRENT CHALLENGES AND FUTURE GOALS CURRENT CHALLENGES WE FACE, WEATHER-RELATED
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CANCELLATIONS, NOBODY LIKES RESCHEDULES.RESCHEDULES, I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE, WE'VE ALL HAD SOMETHING THAT'S HAD TO BE AT WHATEVER ACTIVITY IS.
WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDAR, WE'RE ALL BUSY, RIGHT? EVERYBODY IN HERE HAS A SET SCHEDULE, AND WHEN YOU DISRUPT THAT BASED ON JUST WEATHER EVENTS, NOW YOU'RE HAVING TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK TOGETHER AT A DIFFERENT DATE WHEN ALL THEIR...
SCHEDULES ARE BOOKED UP SO RESCHEDULES ARE A NIGHTMARE AND THEN WHAT YOU SEE OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT IS THE CURRENT SOCCER FIELD NOW THAT'S NOT IN TODAY'S SITUATION BUT THAT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN TWO WEEKS AGO SO ONCE AGAIN YOU SEE THE WATER ON THE FIELD YOU SEE YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT A PLAYABLE SURFACE AT THAT TIME AND THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WHY I SAID YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE MOVING LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTABILITY AND LONG-TERM INVESTMENTS FOR THE CITY, ARTIFICIAL TURF IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE WILL BE MIGRATING TO FOR FUTURE NEEDS.
UMPIRE REFEREE SHORTAGES AND THEN RAPID GROWTH IN PROGRAMS. FUTURE GOALS, EXPAND FIELD AND FACILITY ACCESS.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS WITH CALDWELL PHASE 2, ALL OF THAT UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THAT CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN AUGUST.
SO SYMMETRY SPORTS WILL TURN OVER THE KEYS TO THE NEW SOCCER MULTI-USE FIELDS IN AUGUST.
SO FOR THE FALL SEASON, THAT'S GOING TO ASSIST TREMENDOUSLY THROUGH OUR YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAM.
GROW VOLUNTEER AND COACHING PARTICIPATION.
AS MENTIONED JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO, THERE MAY BE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WILLING TO HELP, THEY JUST DON'T TAKE THAT INITIAL STEP.
BUT IF THERE'S A WAY, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT COACHING, YOU'RE ASSISTING IN A MANAGEMENT ROLE, MANAGER, TEAM MANAGER ROLE, THOSE ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED AS WELL.
AND THEN SOME OF THE, I'LL HIT ON THE LAST BULLET POINT, INTRODUCE NEW PROGRAMS AND SPORTS OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING OVERALL, THIS IS.
SO THIS IS, I SAY, WEIGHED HEAVILY ON ME FOR YEARS, LOOKING AT THE RIGHT TIME AS WE GROW THE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT IS PLAYABLE KIDS.
YOU KNOW, SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND YOU SEE THE LOGO, IT FITS WITH OUR BRANDING.
IT ALIGNS WITH THE IMAGE AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRODUCE FROM A RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
AND OUR MISSION FOR THE PARKS IS TO REMOVE BARRIERS FOR PARTICIPATION BY OFFERING ACCESSIBLE, INCLUSIVE SPORTS EXPERIENCES THAT WILL ALLOW EVERY CHILD TO THRIVE, BUILD FRIENDSHIPS, ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF ACTIVE PLAY AND THE OUTDOORS.
OUR PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT CHILDREN WITH WIDE RANGES.
OF ABILITIES INCLUDING THOSE WITH DEVELOPMENT, PHYSICAL, SENSORY, AND ANY OTHER DIFFERENCES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING NOT ONLY JUST TO THE YOUTH SPORTS BUT TO ALL ACCESSIBLE PROGRAMS FOR THOSE OTHER KIDS WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES LIKE A DECATHLON.
STILL HAVE WEEKLY ACTIVITIES FOR ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE PARTICIPANTS.
FISHING, WE'LL TEE BALL, SOCCER, BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL.
WHEN THE SKATE PARK GETS COMPLETED, WE'LL USE THE SKATE PARK.
SO WE'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT ACTIVITY EACH WEEK FOR THOSE CHILDREN AND PARENTS, ALONG WITH THE PARKS AND REC TEAM.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GIVE BACK AND WE WANT TO GET THE INVOLVEMENT.
AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT THAT PROGRAM WILL PROBABLY GROW NOT ONLY IN PRINCETON, BUT IN SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES SUCH AS FARMERSVILLE, THE BLUE RIDGES, YOU KNOW, NORTH IN THE COUNTY.
BECAUSE LOOKING AT THAT, EVERY KID DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE.
NOW THAT I GOT THROUGH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW, SO BEAR WITH ME.
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ABSOLUTELY.OKAY, GOING BACK TO TYFL, THE FOOTBALL, DO WE GENERATE ANY REVENUE FROM PARTICIPATING IN THAT OURSELVES? FROM WHAT NOW? FROM THE TYFL.
DOES PRINCETON GENERATE ANY REVENUE? YES, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE OFFER AS A RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS A LOW.
ALL OF OUR REGISTRATION FEES AT A LOW COST.
I WOULD ADVISE IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES MCKINNEY'S, PLANO'S, ALLEN'S, FRISCO'S, PROSPER'S, LOOK AT THEIR REGISTRATION FEES AND THEY'RE FAR, OF COURSE, A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN PRINCETON'S.
WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OURS AT MORE SO A NET NEUTRAL.
IT'S NOT, I'M GOING TO SAY, TAXPAYERS' RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR TIMMY TO PLAY T-BALL, BUT WE WANT TIMMY TO HAVE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE, SO WE KEEP THOSE COSTS LOW SO EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IT IS POSSIBLE FOR EVERYBODY TO GET INVOLVED.
THAT KIND OF GOES ON TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
JUST LOOKING AT THE TREND OF THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS THAT WE HAVE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE ISD, WE HAVE ROUGHLY, WHAT, ABOUT 11,000 STUDENTS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 3,600 JUST IN SPORTS ALONE, SO A THIRD OF OUR KIDS ARE PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS.
IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE? BECAUSE WHAT I SEE IS THAT WE WOULD NO LONGER NEED TO GO TO THE PSA.
WE WILL NO LONGER NEED TO UTILIZE THE MCKINNEY SPORTS CONNECTION WHERE WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN SPORTS AS THE NUMBERS GROW.
SO IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR NOT WAITING UNTIL WHEN THAT HAPPENS TO ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR WHEN THOSE NUMBERS DO REACH? THERE IS, AND WE ACTUALLY PLAY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR OWN LEAGUES INTERNALLY.
BASKETBALL AND A LOT OF OUR DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE 10 TEAMS, JUST SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, T-BALL, A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, ONLY IN PRINCETON.
WHERE WE COME INTO THAT IS SPACE AVAILABLE.
BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE THE TEAMS AND WE MAY HAVE THE NUMBER COUNTS, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE AVAILABLE AT THIS MOMENT TO SUFFICE.
FOR 50 BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL TEAMS. SO IT IS GREAT HAVING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES SUCH AS FARMERSVILLE, THE BLUE RIDGE, MELISSA.
THEY HAVE ARTIFICIAL IN MELISSA.
SO WE CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF OUR TEAM COUNTS AND OUR STRESS AND COLLABORATE WITH OTHER CITIES AS FAR AS GAME PLAY AND UTILIZING THEIR FACILITIES AS THEY GET TO UTILIZE OURS AS WELL.
SO IT BUILDS THOSE PARTNERSHIPS, BUT IT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR SPACE AVAILABLE BECAUSE IF I'M JUST SPEAKING ON BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, FOR INSTANCE, WE'VE GOT FOUR FIELDS, FOUR OR FIVE FIELDS IN PRINCETON.
YOU'VE GOT THREE IN FARMERSVILLE, THREE IN BLUE RIDGE, AND THEN A FEW.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 10 TO 15 FIELDS FOR PRINCETON YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAM TO PLAY AT VERSUS.
HINDERING EVERYBODY ALL 500 PLUS ENROLLED STUDENTS ON FOUR.
IT JUST GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY OVERALL.
MY NEXT QUESTION, AND I KNOW OUR REC COORDINATOR HAS A LOT ON HER PLATE, SO I'M SORRY FOR ASKING.
IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR AN ADD? I KNOW WE DO SPRING AND FALL, BUT...
IS THERE ANY CHANCE OR ANY PLANS TO ADDING SUMMER LEAGUES AS WELL DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS? ADDING WHAT NOW? I'M SORRY.
SUMMER LEAGUES INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ADDING SUMMER LEAGUES INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING SPRING AND FALL IN SOME SPORTS.
AND WHEN WE START GETTING INTO, YOU KNOW, SUMMER LEAGUES, THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE AND MORE HELP.
WE, YOU KNOW, AS EVEN OUR NUMBERS AND OUR PARTICIPATION JUST IN ONE DIVISION UNDER PARKS AND REC.
CONTINUING TO COME TO CLIMB BUT WE ALSO WANT TO EXPAND OUR PROGRAM AND NOT JUST
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INTO YOUTH SPORTS LOOKING AT A REC SPECIALIST IN THE FUTURE THAT CAN TAKE ON FOR INSTANCE SOME OF THESE EVEN YOU KNOW THE WHETHER IT'S THE PLAYABLE KIDS OR ADULT PROGRAMS ADULT LEAGUES SOMEBODY ELSE THAT CAN PICK THAT UP AND WE CAN OFFER YEAR-ROUND SPORTS AND ACTIVITIES NOT NECESSARILY, LIKE I MENTIONED, JUST SPORTS, BUT DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OVERALL FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.SO YOU SAID THAT TODAY THE PROGRAM IS SELF-FUNDED? IT'S NOT BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE CITY? NO, SO WE HAVE LINE ITEMS FOR YOUTH SPORTS.
THERE'S ALSO REVENUE GENERATED BASED ON YOUR REGISTRATION COST.
BUT THAT MONEY BASICALLY JUST TURNS AND GOES TO OFFICIALS, FACILITY USAGE, MAINTENANCE, EQUIPMENT, THOSE THINGS.
SO IT'S REALLY MORE SO JUST A PASS-THROUGH.
BUT WHEN WE BREAK DOWN COST ASSESSMENTS ASSOCIATED TO EACH SPORT AND EACH KID, YOU KNOW, A REGISTRATION FEE FOR...
BASEBALL, I BELIEVE, IS $1,000, $105,000, $120,000.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK INTO MCKINNEY, IT'S $150,000 UP TO $175,000.
SAME AMOUNT OF GAMES, SAME AMOUNT OF PLAY, BUT WE ACTUALLY ARE OFFERING UNIFORMS AS OTHER PLACES ARE NOT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE OFFERING UNIFORMS OUT OF THOSE FEES, YOU'VE GOT UNIFORMS, YOU'VE GOT FIELD SPACE, YOU'VE GOT OFFICIALS, WHICH, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THOSE ARE IN DIRE NEED.
IF YOU KNOW ANY OFFICIALS, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THEM.
BUT ALL IT IS IS MORE SO JUST A TRANSFER.
I GUESS ON THAT, I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S I KNOW IN OTHER CITIES I'VE BEEN IN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES.
SO AS COMMERCIAL STARTS TO GROW IN PRINCETON, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS ABLE TO PARTNER IN, OR AS A MUNICIPALITY, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN'T DO? SO WE REALLY GET INTO THE WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO SPONSORSHIP, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE MORE ON A FACILITY AND NOT MORE DIRECTED AT A SPORTS LEAGUE OR SO.
I WILL MENTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO SCOREBOARDS WITH SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS A COST-REVENUE SHARE.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN LED SCOREBOARD NOW, YES, THERE'S ADVERTISEMENTS PLAYING IN THE INTERIM, BUT DURING THE GAME...
IT'S A SCOREBOARD JUST AS NORMAL, BUT IN BETWEEN INNINGS AND THEN AFTER THE GAME, THERE'LL BE ADS THAT ARE JUST PLAYING UP ON A DIGITAL SCREEN.
THAT'S A REVENUE GENERATOR FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO ADVERTISE AND THE CITY TO GENERATE FUNDS FROM THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL.
IS THERE A COST FOR CIVIC PLUS? THERE'S A COST FOR ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS. YEAH, THE RAIN OUTLINE, CIVIC PLUS.
CIVIC PLUS IS ACTUALLY THE PROGRAM, THE WEBSITE USAGE THROUGH THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THAT'S CIVIC PLUS.
WE USE CIVIC REC, WHICH IS JUST THE RECREATION DIVISION UNDER CIVIC PLUS.
THE SPORTS PILOT IS OUR SCHEDULER.
MY REC COORDINATOR DOESN'T LIKE LOOKING AT IT, BUT SHE IS AMAZING.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 75 TO 100 TEAMS IN A VERY COMPLEX SCHEDULE, IT'S VERY DETAILED.
SO WE USE CIVIC OR SPORTSPILOT FOR THE SCHEDULER AND THEN THE RAINOUTLINE.
THAT'S JUST A DOWNLOADABLE APP THAT WE PAY ANNUAL FEES TO.
WHICH KEEPS THE PARENTS AND THE FIELDS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PLAYING ON UP TO DATE WITH REAL LIFETIME.
SO IF A FIELD WAS RAINED OUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU GET TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY IT IMMEDIATELY VERSUS CALLING THE CITY ON A RAIN OUTLINE OR TRYING TO WAIT FOR UPDATES ON A WEBSITE.
ONE, HAVE WE LOOKED AT ALL INTO MAYBE EXPANDING THE VOLLEYBALL? A LOT OF PARENTS COME UP TO ME.
IN ARCADIA, YOU KNOW, SEVENTH, EIGHTH, NINTH GRADERS,
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THEY'RE PLAYING VOLLEYBALL IN SCHOOL AND WOULD LOVE, AND I SEND THEM TO PSA BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MY NIECE PLAYS.SHE LIVES IN MURPHY, SO THAT'S WHERE SHE PLAYS, BUT THEY'D REALLY LIKE SOMETHING HERE IN PRINCETON.
AND I THINK JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM JUST MY COMMUNITY, I THINK THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING.
POTENTIALLY MAYBE FOR US TO LOOK INTO EXPANDING OUR VOLLEYBALL.
I DO AGREE WE REALLY NEED SOMETHING FOR THE SUMMER.
THESE KIDS NEED SOMETHING TO DO DURING THE SUMMER, AND RIDING THEIR ELECTRIC SCOOTERS AND GETTING HIT BY CARS IN THE COMMUNITIES ISN'T THE BEST IDEA.
WHEN THE REC CENTER IS BUILT, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK INTO MAYBE OFFERING, LIKE, SWIMMING AS A SPORT? FOR, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE SWIM COMPETITIONS, PARTNERING WITH PRINCETON ISD POSSIBLY.
SO WE'LL BREAK THIS DOWN INTO THE FIRST ONE.
AS FAR AS THE VOLLEYBALL GOES, BECAUSE I'LL BREAK IT DOWN INTO QUESTION EIGHT AT A TIME.
VOLLEYBALL, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE MORE LOCAL.
BASKETBALL AS AN EXAMPLE, AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING VOLLEYBALL, BUT I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERSTANDING.
WHEN WE PLAYED THROUGH PSA WITH OUR BASKETBALL PROGRAMS FIVE YEARS, FOUR YEARS AGO, SAME AS WHAT VOLLEYBALL WAS.
WHEN WE PRACTICED IN PRINCETON, BUT WE SENT ALL OF OUR TEAMS OVER TO PSA, OUR REGISTRATION COUNT WAS 150.
NOW WE'RE OVER 500 JUST THREE YEARS LATER.
YES, GROWTH IN PRINCETON IS, BUT NOT TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE THE AMOUNT.
THE REASON WE'VE GROWN SO MUCH IS WE'VE TAKEN BASKETBALL AND WE ONLY PLAY IN PRINCETON NOW.
SO WE'VE DEVELOPED THAT PROGRAM WITH THE ISD'S ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SAME STUDENTS THAT ARE ALL IN PISD.
THE SAME STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGH RU SPORTS.
SO WE'VE TAKEN A PROGRAM THAT WE USED TO TRANSFER OVER TO PSA.
WE KEPT IT WHAT I CALL IN-HOUSE IN PRINCETON, AND NOW WE'VE QUADRUPLED THAT NUMBER, AND IT CONTINUES TO GROW.
VOLLEYBALL IS A LITTLE MORE PRECISE.
THE TEAM COUNTS ARE VERY MINIMAL.
SO YOU REALLY NEED AT LEAST FIVE TEAMS IN A DIVISION TO MAKE THAT DIVISION WORTH PLAYING.
NOW AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND WE'LL HAVE A REC CENTER THAT CREATES THAT OPPORTUNITY SO THAT WAY WE'RE PLAYING IN PRINCETON SO OTHER INDIVIDUALS BE YOU KNOW MORE APT TO SIGNING UP AND REGISTERING KNOWING THAT THEY WILL BE PLAYING IN PRINCETON BUT IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT, HEY, WE WANT TO MIGRATE AND WE WANT TO HOST ONLY IN PRINCETON WHEN YOU'VE GOT ONE TEAM.
YOU NEED THOSE NUMBERS TO BE UPWARDS OF 50 TO 50-PLUS GIRLS IN EACH AGE GROUP TO HOST THE DIVISION.
WE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE CLASSES OFFERED.
I CAN'T SAY WHAT THOSE WILL BE AS FAR AS ONCE THE REC CENTER COMES ONLINE, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO OFFER CLASSES.
AND AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE MIGRATION AND THE CONSTRUCTION, LOOKING AT WHAT THAT COULD BE, WE DO HAVE A FOUR-LANE LAP POOL, BUT IT IS A RECREATIONAL USE.
SO TIMES AND SLOTS OF WHAT WE LOOK AT.
ANYTHING IS A POSSIBILITY AT THIS TIME.
AND IN REGARDS TO THE SPONSORSHIP QUESTION, I KNOW FROM OTHER CITIES, FROM FLORIDA, MURPHY, I MEAN, THEY GET, LIKE, CHICK-FIL-A, LIKE, THE LOCAL DENTIST, THE LOCAL, YOU KNOW, ORTHODONTIST.
THAT WILL ACTUALLY SPONSOR A TEAM AND IT'S GREAT BECAUSE LIKE YOU CAN WALK INTO LIKE WINGS PLUS AND YOU SEE THEIR JERSEYS AND SO THAT WOULD HELP OUR...
INCOME BECAUSE THAT SPONSORSHIP, THEY WOULD BE PAYING FOR THOSE UNIFORMS. SO IS THAT SOMETHING, I KNOW
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THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND YOU MENTIONED THE SCOREBOARDS, BUT IF WE EXPAND IT TO THE UNIFORMS, THEN ONE, THEY'RE GETTING THE ADVERTISEMENT WHILE PLAYING, BUT THEN THEY'RE ALSO, WE'RE GETTING THE REVENUE BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE UNIFORM.OR WE'RE SAVING THE REVENUE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THE UNIFORMS. SO I LOVE THAT IDEA.
IT'S WHEN I GET INTO SPONSORSHIPS, IT NEEDS TO BE EVERYTHING OR I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ALL OR NONE.
SPONSORSHIPS ON THE FIELDS, BANNERS, SCHOOL BOARDS, WHATEVER WE HAVE, EVERYBODY CAN SEE THOSE.
BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO A SPECIFIC TEAM.
AND YOU'RE REALLY BREAKING DOWN, HEY, THEY'RE SPONSORING UNIFORMS FOR THIS TEAM.
THIS TEAM MAY HAVE BETTER-LOOKING UNIFORMS THIS YEAR, SO WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THE OTHER TEAM? WELL, WHY DIDN'T WE GET A SPONSORSHIP FROM SO-AND-SO? AND WE ACTUALLY, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THOSE TYPE SITUATIONS.
SO AS A CITY, WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIFICALLY ANY SPONSORSHIP TOWARDS YOUTH TEAMS, WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN.
IF YOU AS A BUSINESS OWNER OR YOU AS A COACH OR YOU AS A PARENT WANT TO SPONSOR YOUR TEAM AND HAVE WHATEVER UNIFORMS YOU WANT, THAT'S THOSE SPECIFIC PLAYERS AND THOSE COACHES AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT DO THAT, BUT NOT THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
WHAT WE DO FOR ONE, WE KEEP IT THE SAME AND CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE DO FOR ALL.
SO EVERYBODY THAT REGISTERS THROUGH PRINCETON, THEY ALL GET A UNIFORM.
WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, IT'LL BE A SHIRT.
IT MAY HAVE A TEAM NAME ON IT WITH A NUMBER, WHICH IS SUFFICIENT FOR 10 GAMES.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING TWO MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR FOR EACH SPORT.
AND EVERY REGISTRATION, THOSE FEES ARE BUILT INTO THAT REGISTRATION COST, WHICH IS, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUS, THAT IS LOW COST AND COMPARABLE TO ALL OTHER CITIES AROUND US.
YEAH, I'VE BEEN ON TEAMS THAT HAVE IT, AND FOR ME THAT QUESTION WAS MORE OF TRYING TO KEEP COSTS CONTINUALLY LOW FOR FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, BECAUSE WHILE THEY ARE LOW COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, THERE STILL ARE FAMILIES THAT AREN'T ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
SO I JUST IDEALLY WOULD LIKE IN THE FUTURE TO SEE SOME SORT OF SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM AVAILABLE THAT FAMILIES COULD APPLY TO FOR LOW INCOME.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING WITH, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET LIKE WINGS PLUS TO SPONSOR A TEAM, THEN SAY WE HAVE 50 TEAMS, WE GET 50 BETWEEN THE DENTIST, THE CHIROPRACTOR, THIS, THEN THAT COULD REDUCE THAT COST TO REGISTER, LIKE YOU SAID.
I THINK WHAT CHASE IS SAYING IS LIKE FOR IT ALL TO GO IN ONE POT.
INSTEAD OF MAKING IT FOR INDIVIDUAL TEAM TO WHERE ANYONE COULD APPLY FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO MAKING IT TO WHERE EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO IT INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUALIZING THE TEAMS. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO SAY THE SAME THING TO WHERE LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT AS, YOU KNOW, LOW AS POSSIBLE.
AND I LIKE WHERE OUR FEES ARE, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME THAT.
SO HAVING A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL.
WE DO HAVE ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FOR ANY AND ALL PARENTS.
WE WANT EVERY KID TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLAY.
AND THEN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SPONSORSHIPS AND HOW WE DO WITH OUTSIDE BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH, ALSO THOSE THINGS STILL HAVE TO BE ACCEPTED THROUGH COUNCIL.
SO COUNCIL HAS TO ACCEPT THE DONATIONS OF WHATEVER THOSE MAY BE.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LARGER SPONSORSHIPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU REALLY START TO GET INTO THE WEEDS.
SO OVERALL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME SPONSORSHIP AND LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY FOR SCHOLARSHIPS.
ASSISTANCE FOR SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS AS WELL.
AND AS FAR AS THE REFEREES, I KNOW WE KNOW NEEDING THE REFEREES AND UMPIRES.
IS THERE ANY TYPE OF TRAINING FOR SOMEONE WHO MAY BE, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO REFEREE, BUT THEY'RE NOT CERTIFIED?
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SO DOES THE CITY OFFER ANY TYPE OF TRAINING FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BECOME AN UMPIRE REFEREE? WE DO.IN THE SPRING, BEFORE THE SEASON, IT'S FOR, LET'S SAY, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A THREE.
IT IS AN INVESTMENT, AND WHEN I SAY INVESTMENT, A TIME INVESTMENT.
YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING, AND ROUGHLY THAT'S THREE DAYS, NOT TWO HOURS EACH NIGHT FOR A COUPLE NIGHTS OF RULES HERE AT CITY HALL, AND THEN TWO DAYS OF FIELD TRAINING, WHICH IS JUST A FEW HOURS.
ON THE FIELD, TECHNIQUES, POSITIONS, SAME FOR SOCCER.
WE HAVE REFEREE TRAINING, AND WE POST ALL THAT INFORMATION ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES WHEN THOSE ARE COMING UP.
SO IF ANYBODY YOU KNOW IS INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT BEING AN OFFICIAL, THEY ARE PAID POSITIONS.
WHAT IS THE PAY STRUCTURE? I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE PACE STRUCTURE? IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL OF PLAY AND THE LEVEL OF GAMES.
YOU KNOW, A T-BALL GAME IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN A 14-U BASEBALL GAME.
THE SAME WITH THE TINY TOTS OR A MINIS SOCCER GAME WOULD BE LESS THAN THE U-14S.
BUT THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, IS PUT OUT TO SOME OF THOSE.
BUT ON AN AVERAGE, FOR A BASEBALL GAME, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT $45 A BASEBALL GAME.
ON AVERAGE, BETWEEN THEM ALL, AND THEN PROBABLY 30, 35 FOR SOCCER.
AND THE TRAININGS ARE ONLY IN THE SPRING? I'M SORRY? ARE THOSE TRAININGS ONLY IN THE SPRING? SPRING AND SUMMER.
SO IF SEASON STARTS, ROUGHLY OUR SEASON STARTS THE SATURDAY AFTER LABOR DAY.
WE USUALLY WE LIKE TO HAVE A MID-AUGUST TRAINING OKAY I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION I'M ACTUALLY A LEVEL TWO CERTIFIED SILVER BOWLING COACH UM SO WITH THAT I HAD TO GO THROUGH A VERY EXTENSIVE LIKE REGISTERED VOLUNTEER PROGRAM THEY HAD TO CHECK YOU KNOW BASICALLY YOU YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO REGISTER AND THEY CHECK YOUR BACKGROUND.
DO WE DO THAT WITH OUR COACHES AND UMPIRES AND REFEREES AND THAT TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE? YES, WE BACKGROUND CHECK ALL OF OUR COACHES.
OUR OFFICIALS, WE ACTUALLY HIRE OUT THROUGH THIRD PARTY.
WE THIRD PARTY THE OFFICIALS FOR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.
I WILL SAY THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR BACKGROUNDS ON THEIR END.
I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALS THAT IN-HOUSE THAT HAVE OR HAVE NOT BEEN BACKGROUND CHECKED.
I CAN'T TELL YOU ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT.
THIRD PARTIES, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OFFICIALS, WHATEVER THOSE MAY BE.
OKAY, SO ALL OF OUR COACHES THAT COACH EITHER BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, T-BALL, SOFTBALL, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, ANY OF OUR CITY SPORTS, ALL OF THEM ARE BACKGROUND CHECKED? YES.
YEAH, SO WHEN YOU REGISTER, MR. LYNCH CAN VERIFY AS A COACH THAT HE HAS TO PUT IN ALL OF HIS INFORMATION AS A COACH THAT WE DO GET THOSE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON.
AND WE DON'T USE A THIRD PARTY FOR THAT? NO.
YEAH, IT'S JUST A SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHECK.
SUPER INTENSE, LIKE YOU'RE JUST PUTTING YOUR BASIC INFORMATION IN SO THEY CAN DO THE BACKGROUND CHECK, BUT IT'S ALL BACKGROUND CHECK.
AND THEN IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN THROUGH THE SEASON, THERE'S A VERY STRICT CODE OF CONDUCT POLICY, LIKE THERE HAS BEEN.
FOLKS REMOVED FROM PARTICIPATION BECAUSE OF CONDUCT ISSUES.
I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, OH, IT'S JUST BOWLING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A THIRD PARTY THAT DID AN ACTUAL BACKGROUND CHECK.
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AND I WILL NOTE, I MEAN, AND THIS IS THE REASON I SAY THIS AS FAR AS SOME OF THE OFFICIALS, WHEN YOU THIRD PARTY, I CAN'T SAY WHETHER THEY ARE OR NOT.HOWEVER, THE COACHES ARE THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH THE STUDENTS ON A, WHEN I SAY ONE-ON-ONE LEVEL, YOU DROP YOUR KID OFF FOR PRACTICE, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE.
I'M NOT SAYING THE PARENTS ARE OR NOT GOING TO ALWAYS BE THERE, BUT THERE ARE SOME PARENTS THAT MAY GO WALK THE TRAIL WHILE THEIR KIDS ARE LEFT WITH THE COACHES AT PRACTICE.
WHEN IT COMES TO OFFICIALS, YOU'VE GOT A HUNDRED EYES ON A GAME.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN TELL YOU A NATIONAL BOWLING TOURNAMENT WITH 1,000 KIDS, AND I CAN TELL YOU SOME EXPERIENCES THAT HAPPENED IN A BATHROOM.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH AND SEEN.
AND THIS IS IN AN ENCLOSED BUILDING, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OUTDOOR PLAY SITUATION IN MOST CASES.
FIRST, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE WORKING WITH THE NEW BUSINESSES OR THE EXISTING AND NEW BUSINESSES AS FAR AS, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THE MARKETING WITH PUTTING UP THE BANNERS OR PUTTING THEIR MARKETING MATERIALS ON THE SCOREBOARDS? YES, SO THE SCOREBOARD, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE RELEASED OUT.
I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE OUT MORE DETAILS AFTER WE HAVE AN RFQ, RFP PROCESS THAT'S PUT OUT FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
IT'S ACTUALLY POSTED RIGHT NOW.
SO BUSINESSES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY ARE INTO THE ADVERTISING MARKETING SYSTEM.
TO SUBMIT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THOSE.
I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS WITH THE ADVERTISING AND MARKETING UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET THE LIST BACK FROM THOSE CANDIDATES WHO SUBMIT FOR THOSE QUALIFICATIONS AND THEN WE'LL I'LL BRING IT TO THIS BOARD AT A LATER DATE FOR APPROVAL.
BUT WE HAVE SOMEONE LIKE REACHING OUT TO THEM LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE SOMETIMES BUSINESSES DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN MARKET SO YOU YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE MARKETER FOR EACH BUSINESSES.
SO DO WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S DOING THAT, MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S AN AVAILABILITY? NO, WE DON'T DO THAT IN-HOUSE.
THAT'S A THIRD PARTY, THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
SO IT'S A SEPARATE COMPANY, AND THAT'S HOW THEY ACTUALLY GENERATE REVENUE FOR THEMSELVES.
THE MORE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT THEY HAVE, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO MARKET SOMETHING THAT'S A NORTHERN BUSINESS.
RIGHT HERE IN PRINCETON, TEXAS.
THEY WANT SMALL, OR I SAY SMALL, THEY WANT LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE REVENUES SO THAT WAY WHOEVER'S AT CALDWELL PARK, HEY, THEY SEE ONE OF THE LOCAL RESTAURANTS HERE IN PRINCETON, HEY, OKAY, LET'S GO THERE AFTER THE GAME.
SO IT GENERATES REVENUE FOR THOSE BUSINESSES, AND THEN IN TURN IT COMES BACK TO PRINCETON AND THE MARKETING TEAM ITSELF THAT HANDLES THE ADVERTISEMENT.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT THERE WILL BE A COMPANY THAT THAT'S HOW THEIR REVENUES ARE GENERATED SPECIFIC.
JUST EXCITED BECAUSE CHICK-FIL-A IS COMING, AND I'M SURE HAVING A NICE CHICK-FIL-A BANNER AT THE FOOTBALL STADIUM WILL GENERATE IT'LL BE A WIN-WIN FOR US AND CHICK-FIL-A, NOT THAT THEY NEED ANY MORE HELP.
AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT A QUESTION AND A STATEMENT ABOUT THE UNIFORMS BECAUSE MY CHILDREN PLAYED FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, SOCCER, CHEERLEADING, AND WE'RE GOING TO SIGN UP FOR VOLLEYBALL.
BUT WHEN WE PLAYED CHEER AND FOOTBALL, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS FROM THE COACHES AND THE PARENTS ABOUT THE UNIFORMS AND THE QUALITY OF THE UNIFORMS. ARE WE MARRIED TO THE VENDOR FOR THOSE PARTICULAR UNIFORMS? OR IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO MAYBE FIND ANOTHER VENDOR? I KNOW FOR THE CHEER TEAM, THE CHEER COACHES WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE QUALITY AND THE STYLES.
THE UNIFORMS FOR FOOTBALL, THE PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING BECAUSE THE KIDS DIDN'T HAVE NAMES, FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL, NAMES ON THE BACK OF THEIR JERSEYS.
BUT WHEN THEY WOULD PLAY OTHER
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TEAMS, THEY WOULD SEE, OH, THEIR NAMES ARE THERE, AND THEIR UNIFORMS WERE VERY BASIC, NO, YOU KNOW, RAZZLE-DAZZLE.BUT IS THERE A WAY TO MAYBE FIND OTHER VENDORS, OR MAYBE IF THAT VENDOR HAS OTHER OPTIONS TO MAKE THEIR UNIFORMS A LITTLE MORE BETTER? IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? SO I'M GOING TO DISSECT YOUR STATEMENT AND QUESTIONS.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT UNIFORMS, WE'RE DOING THESE OVER AND OVER AND DIFFERENT STYLES, DIFFERENT UNIFORMS EACH YEAR.
SOME, IF YOU'VE GOT, AND I USE THIS EXAMPLE, 100 KIDS, THAT'S 200 PARENTS.
WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE ARE GOING TO PLEASE 200 PARENTS? IF 20 PARENTS DID NOT AGREE, OKAY, THAT MEANS WE ARE 90%.
NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, AS FAR AS THE UNIFORMS GO, WE'VE LOOKED AT MULTIPLE VENDORS.
EVEN THIS YEAR, I WILL TELL YOU, WE'VE USED BASKETBALL AS AN EXAMPLE.
WE WENT WITH A DIFFERENT VENDOR THIS YEAR.
YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING PURCHASING POLICIES, GETTING OTHER SOURCES, LOOKING AT OTHER VENDORS, WENT WITH A DIFFERENT VENDOR.
AND FOR OUR LEAGUE, WE DIDN'T GET OUR UNIFORMS IN UNTIL THE THIRD WEEK.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE USED A NEW VENDOR THIS YEAR, TRYING TO EXPAND, AND WE GO THREE WEEKS OF GAMES WITHOUT UNIFORMS. FOOTBALL AND CHEER.
I UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT QUALITY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT ON THE FIELD, BUT ALSO IF WE WANT A TOP-NOTCH PRODUCT, THERE'S CITIES AROUND US THAT ARE CHARGING $400 TO $500 PER CHEER REGISTRATION.
WE KEEP OURS AT THE $250, I BELIEVE.
SO OUR REGISTRATION IS $250, WHICH MOST OF THAT IS GOING INTO A CHEERLEADING UNIFORM BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET INTO SEVENTH GRADE ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, WE'RE TALKING INTO THE THOUSANDS.
SO WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE REGISTRATION FEES GO IS INTO A UNIFORM.
WHEN WE START ITEMIZING, GETTING SPECIFICS, WHEN I CHANGED FROM GOING TO THE NAMES ON THE BACK, I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL BE STRAIGHT UP HONEST, I WAS NEVER A FAN OF IT.
IT MEANS YOU'RE IDENTIFIED AS ONE AND NOT A TEAM.
OUR VARSITY FOOTBALL TEAM DOES NOT HAVE NAMES ON THE BACKS OF THEIR JERSEYS.
WHY? BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE A HASHTAG, WHATEVER THEIR MOTTO IS FOR THAT YEAR, BECAUSE THEY'RE A TEAM.
WHEN YOU GET INTO THE NAMES, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I DON'T MIND HAVING A NAME, BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET A MISTAKE ON A UNIFORM? NOW, THESE ARE SUBLIMATED, SO...
THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE FOUR TO SIX WEEKS TO MAKE A NEW ONE AND TO GET IT SHIPPED OUT.
PLUS, YOU HAVE TO DO MASS ORDERS ON UNIFORMS TO GET THEM ALL THE SAME WITH THE SUBLIMATION NAME ON THE BACK.
SO IF THEY MISSPELL YOUR NAME, SAY MS. PARKER, RIGHT, THEY MISSPELL YOUR LAST NAME, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO TAKE WEEKS FOR US TO GET A NEW ONE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT MULTIPLE VENDORS.
TIME IS A HUGE KEY BECAUSE THE TURNAROUND FROM THE TIME THAT REGISTRATION ENDS TO THE TIME THAT WE START GAMES, AND THIS IS AT THE RECREATION LEVEL.
IF YOU'RE A YOUTH, IF YOU'RE A SELECT SPORTS AND YOU'RE PLAYING THESE THINGS YEAR-ROUND, YOU'RE RECRUITING YOUR KIDS, YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY AS AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING...
WE HAVE 1,500 KIDS, 2,000 KIDS IN YOUTH SPORTS FOR THE SPRING WITH MULTIPLE SETS OF UNIFORMS. THAT'S TOUGH TO TURN AROUND AS A WHOLE FOR ANY VENDOR, ESPECIALLY IF YOU START GETTING ONLINE.
YEAH, YOU CAN GO AND YOU CAN DESIGN SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, AND THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY TO HEAR.
YOU CAN DESIGN SOMETHING REALLY COOL, LOOKS GREAT.
WHEN YOU GET IT IN, THE QUALITY IS NOT QUITE WHAT YOU EXPECTED.
LIKE YOU ORDERED FROM TEMU OR, YOU KNOW, ALIBABA, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE GET.
SO THE VENDORS THAT WE'VE HAD, THE TURNAROUND'S BEEN GOOD.
I CAN'T SAY THE QUALITY IS TOP-NOTCH, BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO THAT AFFORDABILITY.
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AND IF WE WANT TO KEEP COSTS AT A LOW COST, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO, NOT SAYING CHEAP ON THE QUALITY, BUT YOU CAN'T GO WITH THE HIGHEST OF THE BRANDS, WHATEVER THOSE MAY BE, TO KEEP THAT COST LOW.THOSE CHANGE YEARLY, THE SAME AS THE HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS, WHETHER IT'S FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, THEY GO THROUGH A ROUND OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT DESIGNS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO SOME, SOME YOU MAY AGREE WITH, SOME YOU MAY REALLY LIKE, AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, MAYBE SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, CRAP, YOU KNOW, I REALLY LIKED IT LAST YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, NOT THE SAME LOOK.
IT'S THE SAME WITH WHAT WE DO.
WE JUST TRY TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP A DIFFERENT FLOW AND A DIFFERENT LOOK.
EACH YEAR AND WE SOMEHOW TYPICALLY TRY TO MIMIC WHAT THE ISD IS DOING.
JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, ARE WE SENDING OUT LIKE POST-SEASON SURVEYS TO THE PARENTS? POST-SEASON SURVEYS JUST TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON HOW THE SEASON WENT, THINGS LIKE REGISTRATION, HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THE GAMES, ORGANIZATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST TO GET THE PEOPLE WHO ARE YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATING? ARE WE GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK? I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.
I MEAN, HAVING A SURVEY, WE HAVE HAD ONE IN THE PAST.
IT'S KIND OF BEEN MORE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, BUT I AGREE WITH BEING MORE SEASON SPECIFIC BECAUSE SAY IF YOUR KID ONLY PARTICIPATES IN CHEERLEADING AND FOOTBALL AND YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, BASEBALL, SOCCER, WHATEVER THOSE OTHER SPORTS ARE.
YOU KNOW, YOUR INPUT SPECIFIC TO FOOTBALL AND CHEER WOULD BE MORE VALUED THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST THE OVERALL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC TO SOME OF THE OTHER SPORTS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK AT.
OKAY, I JUST HAD TWO MORE THINGS REAL QUICK.
WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SOCCER FIELDS, AND I DON'T PLAY SOCCER, SO I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW, BUT IS THERE A WAY FOR, LIKE, WHEN THE NEW SCHOOLS ARE BUILT? TO WORK WITH THE ISDS, TO HAVE LIKE A SOCCER FIELD NEXT TO THEM THAT COULD FACILITATE SOME MORE SPACE FOR THE SOCCER TEAMS? IS THAT POSSIBLE? WE'RE ON IT.
FIGURED AS MUCH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
THE SMIRK IS, AND THE LAUGH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SMILES IS, YES, WE HAVE THAT.
I MEAN, SINCE WE'RE BUILDING, WE MIGHT AS WELL.
AND THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS, YOU KNOW, FROM A PARKS AND REC STANDPOINT, IT HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
THEY'VE BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH.
AND OVERALL, I'M NOT SAYING IT BENEFITS THE SCHOOL, BUT THESE ARE ALL OF OUR KIDS.
THEY'RE PRINCETON ISD STUDENTS.
SO THE MORE WE CAN GET THEM INVOLVED, WHETHER IT IS BASKETBALL, WHETHER IT IS BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, FOOTBALL, GET THEM INVOLVED EARLY ON.
THE HIGHER QUALITY, YOU KNOW, ATHLETES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TURN AROUND BY THE TIME THEY'RE IN 10TH, 11TH, YOU KNOW, GRADE, WHICH BENEFITS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, IN THE END.
WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE SOME STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS.
WE START THEM EARLY, GET THEM READY.
I HAVEN'T HEARD STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IN PRINCETON IN THE SAME SENTENCE IN A WHILE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL TAKE IT.
AND THEN I JUST, THIS ISN'T WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, BUT I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE REC CENTER.
AND ARE WE GOING TO HAVE, I MEAN, YOU BROUGHT UP HAVING EXTRA PROGRAMS WHEN WE OPEN UP THE REC CENTER, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FACILITIES ALSO FOR GAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ALSO.
AND WILL WE HAVE LIKE, I KNOW THE OTHER CITIES AROUND US PUT OUT LIKE A PARKS AND RECS MAGAZINE WITH ALL OF THE OFFERINGS, BUT WE HAVE CLASSES, ADULT CLASSES, SENIOR CLASSES, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE CAN THAT WE CAN SEND OUT SEASONALLY IN A MAGAZINE THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT PARKS AND RECS IS OFFERING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PARKS AT THE REC CENTER.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LIKE SENIOR AQUATICS LIKE THAT WOULD BE.
I GET THEM IN THOSE THINGS WE WILL ADD.
I GET THEM IN SPIN CLASSES, ALL OF THESE THINGS IS WHAT I'M...
AND EVEN CLASSES FOR KIDS, LIKE I KNOW MCKINNEY PARKS HAS.
SPORTS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY SEASONAL SPORTS, BUT IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY OUT SOCCER, T-BALL, ALL KIND OF IN THE SAME PROGRAM, LIKE A SPORTS, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME, EXPLORATORY, YEAH, EXPLORING PROGRAM, WHERE MAYBE
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THEY COME ONCE A WEEK AND THEY DON'T PLAY ANY, YOU KNOW, GAMES, BUT THEY JUST COME TO THE REC CENTER ONCE A WEEK TO, THIS WEEK WE TRY OUT SOCCER, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING WITH THE PLAYABLE.SO I KNOW THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY WORKING ON THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT MY VOICE OUT THERE TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IT WAS MY IDEA.
NO, AND, YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I WILL NOTE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH AS FAR AS SPORTS, YOUTH SPORTS, AND SO FORTH BEING PLAYED THROUGH THE REC CENTER BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY MORE OPEN FOR EVERYBODY.
I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE LEAGUES AND OPERATE SOME DIFFERENT THINGS OUT OF IT, BUT WE WANT THAT FACILITY TO BE OPEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON FOR WHATEVER TIME SLOTS AND WHATEVER GAMES AND PROGRAMS WE HAVE AND NOT FILTRATED JUST WITH, YOU KNOW, YOUTH BASKETBALL OR WHATEVER ELSE TAKING UP THE TIME IN THE GYM.
THAT'S WHERE THE PSAS AND, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW.
THEY'RE A THIRD-PARTY ORGANIZATION THAT RUNS JUST BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, THOSE INDOOR-STYLE GYMS AND SPACES.
AND THOUGH WE HAVE A REC CENTER, WE WILL OFFER TIME SLOTS FOR PLAY, FOR PROGRAMMING, AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
WHEN YOU START RUNNING LEAGUES, IT TAKES UP SO MUCH MORE TIME FROM THE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF, YOU KNOW, PARK IS GOING TO BE.
IT'S GOING TO BE MORE SO OPEN NOW.
YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE AEROBICS.
WE WILL HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS ASSOCIATED TO WHAT A REC AND AQUATIC CENTER WILL HAVE.
JUST I DO WANT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOLELY MIGRATED TOWARDS YOUTH SPORTS BECAUSE I WANT IT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON AND NOT JUST.
TIME TAKEN UP FOR TIMMY'S BASKETBALL TEAM.
OKAY, JUSTIN, PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, SINCE WE CAN'T, THE REC CENTER PRETTY MUCH BE FOR PROGRAMS AND NOT SO MUCH FOR LEAGUES.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT? SO HAVE WE EXPLORED THE IDEA OF PITCHING TO PSA MAYBE? THEM BRING IN A FACILITY TO PRINCETON SO WE ARE GROWING AS FAST AS WE ARE? PSA LIKES A LARGE NUMBER OF POPULATION.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DEALING IN POPULATIONS OF UPWARDS OF HALF A MILLION PEOPLE WITHIN THOSE CITIES AND THE SURROUNDING CITIES.
THEY'RE IN PLANO, MCKINNEY, AND MURPHY, WHICH IS ON THE THE BORDER OF PLANO EAST, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT PLANO EAST ALMOST ACROSS THE STREET.
SO, YES, IT IS MURPHY, BUT IT'S KIND OF ON THAT BORDERLINE.
LONG TERM, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, YOU KNOW, PRINCETON'S POPULATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE 100 TO 120 PLUS THOUSAND OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 15, 20 YEARS.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT MIGRATING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THE NUMBERS GAIN.
IT JUST ISN'T QUITE HERE FOR PSA.
YOU SAY THE FIELD HOUSE? JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE PISD.
BUT DO WE ALSO PARTNER AND GET OUT TO THE...
I MEAN I USED TO BE INVOLVED IN FLORIDA WITH HOMESCHOOLERS BUT TEXAS IS ENORMOUS WITH HOMESCHOOLERS AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN AVENUE BECAUSE THEY ALSO NEED A SPORTS AND THAT TO GET INVOLVED AND THEY MAY NOT ALWAYS KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO TO THE ACTUAL PISD SCHOOL.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE VOLUNTEER COACHES AND A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN OUR PROGRAMS ARE HOMESCHOOLED.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNICATION IS OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE ADVERTISE SOCIAL MEDIA.
YOU KNOW WITH EACH OF THESE REGISTRATIONS SO WE ARE TARGETING UH WHEN I SAY THAT MARKET YOU KNOW THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HOMESCHOOLED AS WELL GREAT THANK YOU AND I DO NEED
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TO EXCUSE MYSELF FOR JUST A FEW MOMENTS THANK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE'RE ON TO ITEM J3 2026-027 PARK UPDATE SO WE BRIEFLY SPOKE ON PARC, JUST GIVEN ANOTHER UPDATE.MOST EVERYBODY HAS SEEN THIS, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO ELABORATE AND EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WILL GO TO COUNCIL ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA FOR OUR ARCHITECT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
BUT BREAKING DOWN COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IN OCTOBER WAS SCALED DOWN FROM $80 MILLION.
WE'RE PUSHING THAT 75 TO 80 MILLION RANGE, AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET THAT 60 MILLION ALL IN.
THAT INCLUDES FF&E AND DESIGN.
AND WE'VE HIT THAT TARGET PRICE AND THOSE SAVINGS.
NOW, WHAT YOU SEE, LIKE CUTTING DOWN THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT FROM 84,000 TO 64,000.
AQUATICS WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR BEING INDOORS.
NOW WE'VE MOVED TO AQUATICS OUTDOOR AND EXPANDED THAT SPACE SO YOU ACTUALLY GET MORE INVOLVEMENT.
PLUS I LOVE WHAT THE OUTDOOR AQUATICS WILL BE VERSUS THE CONFINED SPACE THAT YOU HAVE ON INDOOR AQUATICS.
YES THERE'S ALWAYS GIVE AND TAKE AND THERE'S BENEFITS TO BOTH.
BENEFITS FOR INDOOR AQUATICS IT'S YEAR-ROUND BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS MISS PARKER YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING SWIMMING ON JANUARY THE 7TH WHEN IT'S 22 DEGREES OUTSIDE EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE AVAILABILITY AND YOU KNOW IT IS AN OPTION PROBABLY NOT HIGH ON YOUR PRIORITY LIST FOR THAT DAY BUT BREAKING DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERLAY.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF EACH.
WE HAVE ADMIN, WHICH WILL BE STAFF THAT OPERATES THE BUILDING, LOBBY, CHILD CARE.
WE CUT DOWN THE INDOOR CHILD CARE SOME WITH THIS FOOTPRINT AND EXPANDED TO AN OUTDOOR SPACE AS WELL.
SO CHILD CARE NOW HAS INDOOR AND OUTDOOR.
LOCKER ROOM, NONE OF THAT'S CHANGED.
WE EXPANDED ON SOME OUTDOOR FITNESS, KIND OF PUSHED THAT OUT.
WE HAD A RUNNING OUTDOOR, I SAY STAIRS, BUT IT'S A HILL, BASICALLY, YES.
EXPANDED SOME OF THE OUTDOOR SPACE, BUT...
DIDN'T HAVE NOT LOSE ANY PROGRAMMING IN THE BUILDING.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT 15 20 MILLION DOLLAR IN SAVINGS WE HAVEN'T CUT ANY PROGRAMMING WHATSOEVER OUT OF THE OVERALL SCOPE.
THIS IS UPSTAIRS GOT THE ENDURO LOOP WHICH YOU KNOW, IT EXPANDS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN ONE OF THE NEXT PICTURES SPEED TRAP, SO WE'RE STILL HAVING SPRINTING 40-YARD DASH, FITNESS GROUPS, BLACK BOX FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTO CYCLING AND WHAT THAT SPACE IS, MULTI-PURPOSE AND COMMUNITY SPACES SO THERE WILL BE ACTIVITIES FOR SENIOR PROGRAMMING, AND THEN JUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
IF YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR LAPTOP AND GO WORK FOR THE DAY, HEY, THOSE SPACES ARE AVAILABLE, AND I'LL GET INTO THOSE DETAILS AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN THE SLIDES.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE OUTDOOR AQUATICS.
IT'S NOT FINALIZED, BUT IT'S IN A SENSE, I MEAN, THIS IS PRETTY CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FINAL PRODUCT WOULD BE.
A COUPLE LARGE SLIDES, A LARGE FAMILY SLIDE, A SHALLOW POOL WITH PLAY STRUCTURE, AND THEN A SEPARATE LITTLE KIDDIE POOL, AND THEN LAZY RIVER.
CROSSING AND WHAT YOU SEE WITH THE LAP PULL.
WILL WE HAVE LIKE A CONCESSION STAND OUT THERE? I'M SORRY?
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CONCESSION STAND? YES, SO LET ME, SO YOU SEE THE BUILDING BY THE KIDDIE POOL? THAT WILL, THAT'LL BE A ENTRY, ENTRANCE AND SNACK BAR.RESTROOMS ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED.
THE BUILDING THAT KIND OF STICKS OUT FROM THE OTHER BUILDING RIGHT THERE, THAT'LL BE THE RESTROOMS AND LOCKERS.
AND MAYBE IF I WAS TO, YEAH, I CAN GET IT FROM HERE FOR THAT.
FRONT ELEVATION, STILL THE SAME, YOU KNOW, AESTHETIC APPEAL.
SO THIS IS THAT NETWORKING AND CO-SPACE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'LL BE A GAME ROOM, BUT JUST GIVES INDIVIDUALS THE ABILITY AND FLEXIBILITY IF YOU WANT TO GO WORK FOR AN AFTERNOON, A MORNING, HIT A CLASS, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR EQUIPMENT, SIT DOWN.
THERE'LL BE SOME OFFICE SPACES SO YOU CAN TAKE A PHONE CALL IF YOU NEED A ZOOM MEETING AND THOSE TYPE THINGS.
THIS IS BASICALLY AN ELEVATED LOOK KIND OF BACK INTO THE LOBBY, ALMOST OFF THE TRACK SPACE, LOOKING BACK OVER THE WORKOUT FACILITY ITSELF.
I WILL SAY THAT IT'S NOT MODELED EXACT, BUT I WILL NOTE THAT WHEN WE'RE RUNNING SPACINGS AND OUR ARCHITECT IS DESIGNING THESE THINGS, THIS IS ACTUAL LIKE LIVE, ALMOST LIVE SIMULATION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON SPACING IS A PRETTY ACCURATE DEPICTION OF WHAT IT CAN BE.
THEY'RE NOT JUST THROWING A MILLION DIFFERENT WEIGHTS AND SO FORTH OUT THERE AND THAT NOT EVEN BE THE CASE THAT IT COULD FIT.
SO THIS WOULD BE BASICALLY COLOR PALETTE LOOKING INTO THE GYM SPACE AVAILABLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY.
SO YOU SEE MULTIPLE LINES, PICKLEBALL COURTS, BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, AND THEN FLEXIBILITY, WHETHER WE RUN SOME INDOOR SOCCER, WHATEVER WE HAVE, BUT MULTI-COURT.
SO I SAW A LITTLE BIT AGO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING ON THE BLACK BOX, YOU KNOW, SOME SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS.
CYCLING EXPERIENCE, WE'VE VISITED A FEW AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY COOL.
SO IN THE BACK THE BLACK BOX THERE'LL BE IMAGES AND SCREENS YOU KNOW AROUND DROP THE LIGHTS THROW LIGHTS YOU KNOW YEAH IT DOES.
I'M NOT GETTING ON ONE BUT I'LL YOU KNOW I'D DIE.
SO THIS IS THAT ENDURO LOOP THAT IT STANDS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING ON THE WALKING TRACK.
AND THEN THE OUTDOOR AQUATICS.
QUESTIONS? LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE.
COUNCIL, ADVISE, STAFF, AND OUR ARCHITECT TEAM BRING BACK, SHOW US SOME COST SAVINGS, WHAT CAN WE DO, AND WE WERE ABLE TO CUT THOSE COSTS.
BY ROUGHLY $20 MILLION ALL IN RIGHT NOW TO $60 MILLION WITHOUT CUTTING PROGRAMMING.
SO I THINK THAT WAS A HUGE WIN FOR PRINCETON IN ITSELF, RUNNING A FACILITY OF THIS MAGNITUDE ROUGHLY AROUND THAT $60 MILLION PRICE TAG.
I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE PARTY ROOMS IN THERE.
IS THAT GOING TO BE RENTED OUT, AND HAS THAT BEEN FACTORED INTO THE REVENUE? WHAT RENTED OUT? I'M SORRY? PARTY ROOMS. YES, ABSOLUTELY.
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REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE CITY, ESPECIALLY OFF OF, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT WE HAVE.AND THE SAME WITH SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, OUTDOOR GAZEBOS AND SPACES.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE, AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE LAYOUT, AND I'LL SHOW, IF YOU WANT, I'LL POINT TO IT UP HERE.
THESE RIGHT HERE ARE THE PARTY ROOMS. SO ON THIS FLOOR PLAN, IT OPENS UP DIRECTLY TO THE, YEAH, SO DIRECTLY TO THE SMALL KID ZONE.
THERE'LL BE SEVERAL PARTY ROOMS. YOU GET 30, 45 MINUTES, HOUR.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THE TIME FRAMES AND HOW THAT'S LAID OUT, BUT PIZZA, BIRTHDAY CAKE, WHATEVER YOU DO, AND THEN IT OPENS UP STRAIGHT INTO THE KIDS' PLAY SPACE.
THAT WAY YOU COME IN, HAVE YOUR PARTY, OPEN GIFTS, AND THEN RIGHT BACK OUT INTO THE FUN.
AND I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE COST.
I KNOW AT ONE POINT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE WERE GOING FOR PRINCETON RESIDENTS.
THE COST WOULD BE A REASONABLE COST TO THE RESIDENT FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW.
I GUESS HAVE A MEMBERSHIP AT IT COMPARED TO A NON-RESIDENT.
IS THAT STILL OUR PLAN OR DO WE HAVE AN IDEA WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT YET? PROBABLY NOT.
WE HAVEN'T BROKEN DOWN INTO THE EXACT COST FOR RESIDENTS.
I WILL TELL YOU, YES, PRINCETON RESIDENTS, TAXPAYERS, IT IS A LOWER COST THAN OUTSIDE NON-CITY RESIDENTS.
BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS AFFORDABLE FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY AND ALL.
THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO BE USED.
NOT PRICE IT OUT OF EVERYBODY'S RANGE THAT NOBODY, AND NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE GOAL OF THIS FACILITY IS.
SO WHEN WE'RE RUNNING MARKET ANALYSIS ALONG, YOU KNOW, PRINCETON, MCKINNEY, ALL THESE REC CENTERS AROUND.
THE AREA WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE IN MARKET BUT WE WANT TO BE BELOW THOSE COSTS OF OTHER FACILITIES RIGHT THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE RUMORS HAVE BEEN FLYING THAT WAS GOING TO BE THREE FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS TO YEAH I MEAN YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AND I KNOW NO A TENTH OF THAT ON MONTHLY FEES AND I ASSURE YOU THERE'S NO THREE, FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE ANNUAL.
OKAY, BECAUSE I MEAN, LIKE I KNOW I GOT A REC CENTER MEMBERSHIP IN MCKINNEY FOR THEIR REC CENTER, WHICH IS NOTHING LIKE OURS, BUT FOR A YEAR IT WAS A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST, THESE WERE PEOPLE THAT...
YES, AND WE'RE LOOKING, LIKE I SAID, THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF MARKET STUDIES DONE.
ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WILL BE TRANSPARENT TO EVERYBODY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS GET FULL ENJOYMENT OUT OF THE FACILITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
MEMBERSHIPS ARE HONESTLY GOING TO BE WHAT PAYS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS FACILITY AS A COST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET INTO THAT COST RECOVERY SCENARIO, WHETHER IT STARTS OUT.
OVER A FIVE-YEAR PLAN AT 80%, 75%, 80%.
YOU KNOW, OVER FIVE YEARS, YOU WANT TO BE COST RECOVERY IF POSSIBLE.
MEMBERSHIPS ARE WHAT KEEPS THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, EVEN LIKE THE AQUATIC CENTER, THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MORE SO ASSOCIATED.
WE'LL LOOK AT MEMBERSHIPS, LIKE A SUMMER MEMBERSHIP, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY A MEMORIAL DAY THROUGH LABOR DAY TIME SPAN.
IN TEXAS, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO OPEN IT UP BEFORE, AND YOU MAY BE ABLE TO LEAVE IT OPEN ON WEEKENDS OR SOMETHING UP THROUGH OCTOBER.
THERE'LL BE TIMES WHERE IT CAN BE EXPANDED TO SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS IT AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR THAT, OR IS IT GOING TO BE DAY PASS ONLY? BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE
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THE RIGHT FACILITY FOR THE RESIDENTS AT A VERY AFFORDABLE COST.AND WE'LL GET ALL OF THAT, THE NUMBERS LIKE THE COST ANALYSIS AND THE BREAK-EVEN ANALYSIS AND THE PROJECTED ROI AND ALL THAT, WE'LL RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION? WHEN WILL WE PROJECT THAT? I'M JUST ASKING IF WE WILL, NOT WHEN.
WE'LL REALLY START DIVING INTO THAT ONCE WE START DEVELOPING SOME OF OUR SOPS AND THE PROJECT IS FULLY COMPLETE AND STARTS GETTING UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
I MEAN, WE HAVE PRELIMINARIES ALREADY.
THAT'S THE REASON I SAY, I MEAN, IT WON'T BE THAT, IT'S NOWHERE NEAR THAT $300 OR $400 RANGE, MAYBE THE ANNUAL FEES, YOU KNOW, UPWARDS AROUND THAT, ANNUAL FEES, BUT NOT MONTHLY FEES.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10% OF THAT.
WHAT'S THE CURRENT TIMELINE FOR BREAKING GROUND? IFCS SHOULD BE COMPLETED INTO THE SUMMER AND THEN THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND AS SOON AS THAT'S...
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE 23 BOND, SO COUNCIL WILL APPROVE AND THEN AFTER THE IFCS, WHICH IS THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, IT GOES FROM ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING INTO...
ENGINEERING SPECIFIC ON YOUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND THEN INTO PERMITTING.
PERMITTING TAKES ROUGHLY 90 DAYS MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING OF THIS SIZE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER SO BEST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE LOOKING AT BREAKING GROUND EARLY NEXT YEAR POTENTIALLY LATE THIS YEAR BUT MOST LIKELY EARLY NEXT YEAR AND THAT'S A ROUGHLY A 20 TO A 24 MONTH TIME PROCESS FOR COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION.
WILL THERE BE WALKING TRAILS THAT CONNECT TO THIS AREA? WALKING TRAILS? YES, SO THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE ADJACENT TO GTLC, WHICH IS ONE OF THE OTHER NEW PARKS.
IT'S PART OF THE BOND PROCESS.
THERE IS MONEY TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT GTLC.
SO TRAIL CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO IS 100%.
NOW, CAN I SAY THAT ALL OF THE TRAILS TO THAT PARK WILL BE COMPLETED? I CAN'T SAY THAT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT IDEALLY WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN PUT DOWN ON PAPER AND THEN AFFORD WHEN WE GET INTO.
FURTHER INTO COST BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR GTLC.
WOULD GTLC BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE PARK? COMPLETED OR STARTED? SEE, IT'S BECAUSE WHAT, AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES.
THIS BUILDING IS ROUGHLY A TWO-YEAR BUILD WHEN GTLC IS A NINE.
THOUGH THIS WILL START BEFORE GTLC, GTLC WILL START DIRECTLY AFTER, BUT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE TIME LAPSE MAY BE ROUGHLY OPENING AROUND THE SAME TIME.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S, THANK YOU, CHASE.
FOR 2026-028 UPDATE ON ZAP STANDS SO I JUST WANTED MS JONES IT WAS MENTIONED TO BRING ZAP STANDS BACK I KIND OF WANT TO GIVE JUST AN OVERVIEW AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TOO MUCH IN YOU KNOW DOWN THE ROAD ZAP STANDS AND OTHER AED PROGRAMS OR SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING INTO AS A CITY BUT LIKE I WAS MENTIONING ON THE SCHOOL BOARDS EARLIER, WHEN YOU START PUTTING OUT RFPS AND RFQS FOR MULTIPLE VENDORS TO BID ON.
WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TAKE THE ONES THAT HAVE BID ON THOSE, OR I SAY BID, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTED QUALIFICATIONS, AND THEN AT THAT TIME I'M GOING TO LET THEM PRESENT TO THIS BOARD ITSELF.
SO I'LL LET THE, WHETHER IT'S ZAP STANDS OR WHOEVER, IMMEDIATE,
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BRING A PRESENTATION FOR THIS BOARD TO SEE.IN LOOKING AT, OKAY, IN LOOKING AT ZAPSTAN, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, THE ACTUAL AED MACHINE FUNCTIONS OFF OF AUSTRALIAN TECHNOLOGY.
AND THE INVENTOR OF THAT ACTUAL AED MACHINE IS ACTUALLY BASED ON THEIR PATENT IN TORAY HILLS, AUSTRALIA.
THEY ARE, THAT, HE'S LISTED AS THE INVENTOR AND THE PATENT FOR ZAPSTAN.
SO MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY CONCERNED, MY CONCERN AROUND THE AED MACHINE IS FROM THE INFORMATION SHARED, IT SEEMS LIKE ZAPSTAN IS A FAIRLY NEW COMPANY, AND THEY DON'T ACTUALLY MANUFACTURE THE AED MACHINE, AND THE PATENT I'M LOOKING AT, IT SHOWS RENO APRILE, MAYBE HOW IT'S PRONOUNCED, IT'S A-P-R-I-L-E, IS THE INVENTOR, AND HE MAINTAINS THAT PATENT.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE ALL THE GREAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE STAND, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL MACHINE THAT WOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE PERSON IF THEY'RE TRYING TO REVIVE THEM.
WHERE ARE THEY MANUFACTURED AT? IS THERE A WAIT LIST? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ZAPSTAND IS A FAIRLY NEW COMPANY, SO I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO KNOW.
DID THEY BUY A LOT OF THESE AED MACHINES AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH ONE? HOW DOES IT WORK WITH THE TECHNOLOGY BEING AUSTRALIAN TECHNOLOGY? DO THEY SEND THOSE MACHINES BACK FOR REPAIR? JUST SOME INFORMATION AROUND THE MACHINE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PATENTS AND THAT THE ORIGINAL INVENTOR STILL HOLDS THE PATENT FOR THE AED MACHINE.
SO HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN EASILY GET A NEW AED MACHINE OR THAT THEY ARE EQUIPPED TO FIX IT? AN AED MACHINE OR DO THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY SEND THAT MACHINE OFF? SO THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS AROUND WHEN I SAID I DIDN'T SEE A PATENT FOR THE ACTUAL AED MACHINE AND THAT THEY DON'T MANUFACTURE THEM.
OR IS IT A SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE A NEW COMPANY AND THEY HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER AND THEY'RE SELLING TO VARIOUS CITIES? WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE ACTUAL AED MACHINE.
SO I'LL THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS.
I WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, ZAPSTAN, YOU KNOW, GIVES A PRESENTATION TO ASK THEM.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT'S WHERE WE BENEFIT RUNNING INTO LONG-TERM LEASE AGREEMENTS BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF.
OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR FIRE CHIEF, CURRENT FIRE CHIEF, FULLY SUPPORTS AND BACKS ZAPSTAN.
THEY USE THEM IN THE COLONY, THEY USE THEM IN LOUISVILLE, THEY USE THEM IN FRISCO, THEY USE THEM IN OTHER LOCAL CITIES THAT ARE FAR SUPERIOR IN SIZE THAN PRINCETON.
THEY ARE A NEWER COMPANY, BUT AS FAR AS AN AED, THE SYSTEM ITSELF, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING LIKE SAFETY.
THE ZAPSTAND ITSELF IS MORE SO ADVERTISEMENT AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THEY COULD USE JUST ANY AED MACHINE BECAUSE OF THE WAY...
SOMEHOW, AND PATENT IS NOT MY AREA, BUT THERE'S SOME KIND OF WIRE THAT GOES THROUGH THAT ACTUALLY HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HEATING.
AND SO I THINK THAT THEY INCLUDED IT IN THEIR PATENT BECAUSE THAT'S THE MACHINE THEY INTEND TO USE.
BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, IF THAT RELATIONSHIP BREAKS, CAN THEY EASILY REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER VENDOR? THE AED SYSTEMS ARE PORTABLE.
JUST AS WE HAVE ONE ON THE WALL COMING THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR, THERE ARE, I'M GOING TO SAY, THOUSANDS OF MANUFACTURERS OF THE AED.
MY UNDERSTANDING, BASED ON WHAT I SAW, WAS THEY WERE SAYING THAT THE AUSTRALIAN TECHNOLOGY IS SUPERIOR.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.
YEAH, AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT QUESTION TO HAVE.
I CAN'T SAY AS FAR AS THE PRODUCT FROM AUSTRALIA. I CAN SAY THAT THE ZAP SANDS ARE MANUFACTURED.
...CONSTRUCTED IN ALLEN, SO THEY ARE A LOCAL, YOU KNOW, MORE SO LOCAL BUSINESS, BUT THAT'S THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND THE ADVERTISING SYSTEM.
WHEN YOU TAKE OUT, YOU IMMEDIATELY COME UP, THERE'S CAMERAS AND MONITORING SYSTEMS ON THE AEZ ZAP STAND, SO YOU PUSH, YOU KNOW, HEY, CALL THE POLICE, IT'S IMMEDIATELY GOING
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TO CONTACT THE PD, AND THE SCREEN IS GOING TO COME UP, AND IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW TO ADMINISTER THE AED, PLACING IT ON...YOU KNOW WHEN I SAY A PATRON OR SOMEBODY IN CARDIAC ARREST, AT THAT TIME THE AED SYSTEM IS GOING TO IDENTIFY WHETHER IT NEEDS TO DISTRIBUTE A SHOCK OR NOT.
THAT'S HANDS OFF FOR THE USER.
THAT'S ALL IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IDENTIFIES WHETHER A PERSON IS IN CARDIAC ARREST OR NOT.
SO THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS TO HAVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY FOR YOU TO BRING THEM UP TO ZAPSTAND THEMSELVES IF THEY PRESENT.
SO JUST FOR UNDERSTANDING, ZAPSTAND WAS JUST ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT WAS AN IDEA TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IF WE CHOOSE TO, BUT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE QUALIFICATION PROCESS AND COME AND PRESENT TO US.
ALONG WITH THE OTHER VENDORS THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE A VENDOR AS WELL.
SO WE'RE NOT SOLD ON ZAPSTAND AT ALL FOR WHATSOEVER.
IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
SO IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO US PRETTY MUCH? THAT'S JUST WHAT THAT IS? CORRECT.
AND PURCHASING POLICIES AS A CITY, WE ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW IN LINES WITH STATE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HUB AND OR CO-OP AS WELL.
SO EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES IN THE AREA BY LAW.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE, SOME BUSINESSES DO NOT QUALIFY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PART OF, YOU KNOW, THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES OVERALL.
SO HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES FOR THE HUBS.
THE MACHINES THAT WE CURRENTLY USE, WILL THAT VENDOR BE PRESENTING INFORMATION ALSO OR NOT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AED MACHINES IN THE CITY OF PRINCETON, CORRECT? NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOU.
THE AED MACHINE, DO WE HAVE THOSE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE THEM.
WHEN WE HAD THE LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE THE FIRE CHIEF SAID THERE WAS ONE AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT WE PROBABLY PASSED WHEN WE WALKED IN.
SO MY QUESTION IS, SINCE HE SAID THERE WOULD BE MULTIPLE VENDORS, WILL WE GET TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING ALSO? BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT THE FIRE CHIEF SAID WHEN HE WAS LAST HERE, HE SAID WE HAVE NOT USED THE MACHINES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HE SAID.
HE SAID THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FAILED REPORTS AND THAT THE MACHINE THAT WAS HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL OF PRINCETON CITY LOCATIONS OR JUST THIS ONE LOCATION THAT WE HADN'T HAD ANY FAILED REPORTS, WE HAD NOT USED THE MACHINE.
OUR FIRE CHIEF, CHIEF STEVENS, MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT OFFERING CLASSES ON HOW TO OPERATE THE AEDS.
THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT DURING HIS LAST PRESENTATION.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE A KEY POINT.
I KNOW A COUPLE JUST POINTED AT IT, BUT WHO HERE KNEW THAT WE HAD AN AED ON THE WALL RIGHT BEHIND US? I KNOW, RIGHT, MS. ELLIS? OUT OF THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, SIX INDIVIDUALS, THERE'S HALF OF YOU, AND YOU'RE LOOKING STRAIGHT AT IT.
IT'S A LARGE SCREEN, YOU KNOW, ADVERTISES LOCAL ENGAGEMENT, DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, UPCOMING EVENTS.
BUT IT'S ALSO, IT'S IDENTIFIABLE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CITY, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR PARKS.
YOU'VE GOT A LARGE, YOU KNOW, IF BARNEY IS SITTING IN THE ROOM RIGHT BEHIND YOU, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO SEE BARNEY SITTING IN THE ROOM, RIGHT? IT'S HUGE, AND I KNOW THAT'S...
WHEN I SAY THAT ANALOGY THERE, IT'S IDENTIFIABLE, AND THAT'S WHAT THE AED SYSTEM IS FOR.
THAT'S WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT.
BUT IDENTIFYING WHERE IT IS AND THAT IT'S HERE AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S FOR, THAT'S WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT OUT
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OF THAT ENTIRE SYSTEM.AND THE AED IS JUST, THAT'S JUST THE ZAP STAND.
THE ZAP STAND IS JUST THE SCREEN.
SCREEN AND THE MONITORS AND THE STROBES AND ALL THE LIGHTS AND BELLS AND WHISTLES, BUT IT'S IDENTIFIABLE TO ALL RESIDENTS.
BUT IT ALSO SHOWS YOU A HOW-TO VIDEO.
SO WHO KNOWS, YOU KNOW, HOW TO, WHO KNOWS HERE HOW TO OPERATE THAT AED SYSTEM.
IF YOU'VE GONE TO THE ACADEMIES OR A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL CLASSES, WHATEVER YOU'VE DONE, THOSE ARE KEY POINTS, JUST LIKE CPR, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT THE ZAP STAND.
THE ZAP STAND JUST HAPPENS TO BE A LARGE BARNEY IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARK THAT YOU CAN'T MISS WHENEVER YOU'RE WALKING UP TO IT.
BUT IT GIVES YOU LIVE VIDEOS AND LIVE INTERACTION WITH MEDICAL SERVICES IN THAT TIME OF NEED.
THE AED SYSTEM INSIDE OF IT IS STILL THE SAME WHETHER IT'S THIS MANUFACTURER OR THIS MANUFACTURER OR THIS MANUFACTURER THEY'RE ALL STILL THE SAME THEY JUST PROVIDE YOU HOW TO ADMINISTER THAT'S ALL THAT IS.
IT ALSO LIKE I SAID IS A LARGE DIGITAL SCREEN SO WE CAN ADVERTISE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND UPCOMING EVENTS BUT THE KEY TAKEAWAY FROM ALL OF THIS IS IT'S IT'S JUST A LANDMARKER.
BUT WE HAVE AN AED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS MARKED, BUT MOST OF US DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT WAS THERE.
JUST TO KIND OF ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I AM VERY MUCH SO FOR ZAPSTAND OR AN EQUIVALENT, BECAUSE ME PERSONALLY, I'M TRAINED CPR, ACLS.
I'VE WORKED IN THE ER FOR YEARS.
IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT AND I'VE BEEN TRAINED, BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON WILL NOT.
AND WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS LIKE THAT, PEOPLE WILL PANIC.
SO BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT BUTTON WHERE EMERGENCY SERVICES KNOWS YOUR LOCATION, WHERE EVEN IF SOMEONE'S ON THE PHONE WITH 911, THEN YOU HAVE TO DESCRIBE WHERE YOU ARE WHILE THE EMERGENCY SERVICES IS TRYING TO GIVE YOU INSTRUCTIONS, ALL OF THAT WILL BE ALLEVIATED IN MINUTES.
CAN BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAVING A LIFE AND LOSING A LIFE.
AND I KNOW THAT FROM EXPERIENCE.
BEING ABLE TO PUT THOSE PADDLES ON AND FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS WHAT'S HAPPENING, IF THIS PERSON IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK OR A HEART, ANY KIND OF ANYTHING, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT ASSESSED ON THE SYSTEM FOR WHEN EMERGENCY SERVICES SHOWS UP AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ALREADY HAVE EVERYTHING READY.
WHEN THERE'S EVENTS LIKE THIS, EMERGENCY SERVICES CALLS INTO THE NEAREST ER TO ALERT EVERYONE WHO IS IN THE ER OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THAT TIMING IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU COULD LITERALLY SAVE A LIFE IN THE MATTER OF MINUTES WITH KNOWING AND ASSESSING AND BEING ABLE TO GIVE THE EMERGENCY MEDS THAT THEY NEED OR THE CARE THAT THEY NEED IN THAT TIME FRAME.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT MACHINE IS NOT A GOOD PRODUCT.
SO I HOPE THAT NO ONE IS TAKING THAT AWAY FROM THE STATEMENTS THAT I'VE MADE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD PRODUCT.
I'M SAYING, WILL IT STILL BE A GOOD PRODUCT IN 25 YEARS? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
I'M NOT EVEN SAYING THAT I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THE OUTSTAND.
MY QUESTION IS A 25-YEAR LEASE AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE OVER A 25-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
AND LIKE I SAID THE LAST TIME WE MET, I BELIEVE IF SOMEONE WERE TO GIVE BIRTH TO A CHILD TODAY, DO WE STILL EXPECT FOR THE TECHNOLOGY TO BE THE SAME 25 YEARS THAT CHILD COULD HAVE FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL, GONE TO COLLEGE, AND MIGHT EVEN HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE? SO I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE ZAPSTAND PRODUCT ITSELF.
MY QUESTION WAS REGARDING A 25-YEAR LEASE, AND I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES, OF COURSE.
WITH A 25-YEAR LEASE, YOU'RE LEASING THE STAND.
THE RATE ON THE STAND IS ABOUT 3%.
THERE ARE TWO FEES, SO IT'S GOING TO TOTAL 6% OF THE ORIGINAL COST.
AND THAT'S FOR THEIR CONTINUED SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE ON THE ACTUAL STAND ITSELF.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT WHY THEY CHOSE AUSTRALIAN TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE IN A VIDEO, ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ACTUALLY SAID THAT IT'S SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY.
SO IF IT'S SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY TO ALL OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S IN THE U.S., THE AUSTRALIAN TECHNOLOGY IS SUPERIOR, THEY MAY COME AND SAY, AND IF THEY
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DO, I UNDERSTAND THIS AS WELL, WELL, WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT.THEY MAY SAY THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE INVENTOR STILL HAS THE PATENT ON IT.
BUT IS IT WORTH A 25-YEAR LEASE? THAT'S BEEN MY QUESTION.
I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE PRODUCT OR THE STAND.
IT MAY SAVE A LIFE ONE DAY HERE.
BUT I STILL HAVE TO QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE TECHNOLOGY WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH 25 YEARS FROM NOW? YEAH, AND MS. JONES, TO BE CLEAR, ABSOLUTELY, I NEVER DOUBTED THE FACT THAT IF YOU WERE QUESTIONING, THAT ZAP STANDS ITSELF.
THAT IS THE REASON WHEN YOU GET INTO THESE LONG-TERM LEASES, AND WHEN I SAY LONG-TERM, I MEAN, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT COST FOR EACH PRODUCT, WHATEVER YOU INSTALL.
SO IT'S CHEAP ON THE FRONT END.
AND IT PAYS ITSELF BACK OVER THE BACK END, OVER A LONG-TERM LEASE.
THAT IS THE REASON WHY THEY GET INTO LONG-TERM LEASE AGREEMENTS.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT NEGOTIATING, YOU KNOW, THAT PERCENTAGE DOWN AND SO FORTH.
BUT THE BENEFIT IS THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.
AND WHEN THEIR TECHNOLOGY INCREASES, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, COULD ANYBODY IMAGINE WHAT A 25-YEAR-OLD CELL PHONE WOULD LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, EVERY INDIVIDUAL HERE HAS A $1200,000 COMPUTER AT THEIR FINGERTIPS, BUT 25 YEARS AGO, I MEAN, WE HAD A CORD ON THEM.
SO, THE TECHNOLOGY AS IT INCREASES, THAT HARDWARE AND THE SOFTWARE IS UPGRADED OVER THAT DURATION OF TIME.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON, JUST WORKING IN THE HOSPITAL AND WORKING WITH EQUIPMENT.
ONE, IT BEING AUSTRALIAN IS NOT SOMETHING TO REALLY BE SCARED OF.
A LOT OF OUR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT COMES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.
YEAH, BUT WHEN HE SAID IT'S SUPERIOR, THAT'S WHAT...
WELL, THAT'S WHY WE USE OTHER COUNTRIES BECAUSE SOME OF THEIR TECHNOLOGY IS, IN FACT, SUPERIOR TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
THEY ARE DOING MORE RESEARCH, THEY ARE MORE INNOVATIVE WITH CERTAIN THINGS, THEY SPECIALIZE, AND THEY MANUFACTURE CERTAIN PRODUCTS OVER THERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE HERE.
SO THEIR SCIENTISTS WILL DO DIFFERENT STUDIES, AND SOME OF THEIR WORK IS SUPERIOR.
A LOT OF OUR MRI SCANS, CT SCANS, EVERYTHING IN THE HOSPITAL, MOST OF THAT STUFF COMES FROM OVERSEAS BECAUSE IT IS SUPERIOR TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE CAPABILITIES TO DO.
SO IT BEING SUPERIOR, IT COULD VERY WELL BE THAT.
AND I, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEM BEING ABLE TO COME UP HERE AND GIVE US AND BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH US SO THAT WE CAN HAVE QUESTIONS.
AND WHEN THEY ARE HERE TO PRESENT, CAN WE HAVE OUR FIRE CHIEF HERE TO ALSO ENGAGE WITH THEM AND ASK QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING.
THAT THEY'RE OFFERING EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS ARE SAFE.
OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM J.5, 2026-029, ROSA RESPONSIBILITIES UPDATE.
SO IN FRONT OF YOU, I ACTUALLY PRINTED OUT A HANDOUT.
HAS ADOPTED THEIR COUNCIL POLICIES, RULE OF ORDER, AND CODE OF ETHICS.
THIS ACTUALLY APPLIES TO ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S CITY COUNCIL, THE RULES OF ORDER AND CODE OF ETHICS, EVERYTHING STILL APPLIES TO EACH BOARD.
BUT I'VE PROVIDED IT TO YOU AS WELL FOR EVERYBODY TO READ THROUGH, LOOK AT THE HANDOUT.
THIS IS OUR CODE OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON CODE OF ORDINANCE SPECIFIC TO THIS BOARD.
SO THESE ARE JUST A FEW MEMBERS REMOVAL TERMS OF OFFICE.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THIS BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
IF YOU LIKE, I CAN READ THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY HAS THEM.
I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME.
WHICH SEATS WILL BE UP FOR THE ODD NUMBERS AND WHICH SEATS WILL BE UP FOR THE EVEN NUMBERS?
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BECAUSE IT SAYS TWO-YEAR TERMS, CERTAIN SEATS ARE UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT IN ODD NUMBER YEARS, AND THEN CERTAIN SEATS ARE UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT OR APPOINTMENT IN EVEN NUMBER YEARS.THE THE TERMS FILLING 1, 3, 05, AND 7 WILL BE AUGUST 31ST OF, I BELIEVE, TWO YEARS.
EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A TWO PLUS YEAR TERM.
SOME WILL HAVE A TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEAR TERM ON THE FIRST TERM.
SO SEATS ONE, THREE, FIVE AND SEVEN WILL EXPIRE AUGUST 31ST ON EVEN.
YES, BECAUSE WHEN THIS BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED AND THE ROLES TO FALL IN LINE ON PLACINGS AND YEARS, IT'S GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.
BUT THE YEARS ARE TWO-YEAR TERMS, SO EVERYBODY AT LEAST IS ELIGIBLE FOR AUTOMATIC TWO-YEAR TERM FOLLOWING INTO THEIR...
AND HOW MANY TERMS? SO HOW MANY TERMS? I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT.
I BELIEVE YOU'RE OPEN FOR TERM LIMITS.
THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR AND THE SECRETARY ARE ONE TERM AND THEN SO LIKE NEXT YEAR, THE VICE CHAIR, THE CHAIR, AND THE SECRETARY HAVE TO BE REAPPOINTED.
YEAH, THERE'LL BE REAPPOINTMENTS, BUT NOT LIKE THE TERM LIMITS OF HOW LONG YOU CAN SERVE.
I DID NOTICE, AND MAYBE YOU CAN JUST CHECK INTO IT, ITEM E, F, AND G.
DUPLICATE SOME ITEMS IN SECTION A AS WELL AS ITEM F DATES THAT BOARD MEMBERS MAY APPLY AND SERVE MORE THAN ONE TERM THAT SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY TWO-YEAR TERM BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE BOARD FOR TWO YEARS.
YES SO THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AS WELL TO REFLECT THE CURRENT BUT THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY ALSO I DID PRINT THESE OUT WHICH THIS WAS ADOPTED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING SO EVERYBODY DOES HAVE THE NEW CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION PACKET THANK YOU BUT THIS IS WHAT IS SHOWING CURRENTLY ON OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE IN MUNICODE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ALL RIGHT THANK YOU THANK YOU CHASE UM ITEM J DOT SIX ONE TWENTY SIX ZERO THREE ZERO CD ISSUE EMAILS AND IPADS SO EACH BOARD MEMBER INSTEAD OF USING PERSONAL PHONES TO ACCESS EMAILS AND INFORMATION PERTAINING TO BOARD, EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BOARD WILL, AS SOON AS THE MEETING IS OVER, WE'RE GOING TO GET WITH CHRIS.
I KNOW A COUPLE MAY ALREADY HAVE, MAXINE YOU HAVE ONE, BUT WE'LL GET, PLEASE GET WITH CHRIS SO HE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS SET UP.
FROM THIS POINT FORTH WE WILL ONLY USE YOUR CITY EMAIL.
FOR AN IPAD FOR COMMUNICATION.
PLEASE STICK TO IT AND DON'T, YOU KNOW, TRY TO AVOID USING PERSONAL FOR ANY COMMUNICATIONS.
AND JUST TO COMMENT ON THAT, I WAS ACTUALLY AT LAST THURSDAY'S TRAINING THAT THE ACTING CITY ATTORNEY LEGAL FIRM PROVIDED, AND IF...
IF I WERE TO JUST EVEN OPEN THE AGENDA ON MY PHONE, YOU KNOW, THAT MY PHONE BECOMES SUBJECTED TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST, OKAY?
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AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN JOBS AND THAT, AND WE HAVE CONFIDENTIAL, BUT IT AND IT CAN GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, EVEN IF YOU WERE TO REFUSE TO GIVE IT TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY.HERE THEY IF THEY WANT IT, THEY CAN SUBPOENA YOU AND TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
SO I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR HAVING MY CITY EMAIL AS WELL AS HAVING THIS IPAD.
THANK YOU FOR REITERATING THAT, MS. ELLIS.
JUST TO ASK ABOUT THE TRAINING.
FOR THOSE OF US WHO WEREN'T THERE, WILL WE GET, LIKE, TRAINING NOTES? OR IS THERE A VIDEO? IT WAS RECORDED AND IT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
WHERE? I'M SORRY? WHERE IS IT AVAILABLE? THE CITY OF PRINCETON'S WEBSITE IF YOU GO TO AGENDAS AND AMENDMENTS.
IS IT THERE? BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE EMAILED TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I WILL GET IT SENT OUT TO THIS BOARD, WHETHER IT'S THE LINK TO THE SPECIFIC.
BUT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, IF THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING OR SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY CAN'T ATTEND, YOU SAID GO TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON'S WEBSITE AND GO WHERE? AGENDAS AND MINUTES.
YES, SO IF YOU LOOK UP, LIKE, WATCH LIVE MEETINGS, A LOT OF ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, THIS MEETING SPECIFIC, TOMORROW MORNING YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND WATCH THIS MEETING. IT WON'T BE LIVE.
OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT NOW IT'S LIVE.
FOR EVERYBODY, BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO WATCH THIS MEETING FOLLOWING AT ROUGHLY 7 A.M. THE NEXT DAY.
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OKAY, THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM K, REPORT AGENDA.THESE ARE THE FOLLOWING THE NEXT MEETINGS AND OUR PARKING RESTORATION BOARD MEETING WILL BE TUESDAY, JUNE 2ND, 2026 AT 6 30 P.M. AND EVERYONE OKAY
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WITH THAT, RIGHT? OKAY. MR. MCCOY? YEAH. FOLLOWING THIS, WILL ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA, IT'S NOT LISTED ON HERE, BUT IF WE CAN JUST BRING THAT UP.YES. ANY ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING AGENDA, PLEASE? SORRY, CHASE, I DO HAVE A FEW. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
ABSOLUTELY. I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD GET A FINANCIAL REPORT AFTER. SO THE LAST EVENT WE JUST HAD WAS THE FISHING FRENZY. SO IF WE COULD GET A FINANCIAL REPORT OF THAT, JUST, YOU KNOW, REVIEW. AND IF POSSIBLE, THE DEVELOPERS GIVE US DOLLARS AS WELL TO THE PARKS AND RECS. I KNOW IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE THEY, SO IF WE COULD JUST GET A QUARTERLY FINANCE REPORT FOR THAT. IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION, I KNOW EACH DEVELOPMENT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A DEDICATED PARK, LIKE LAND FOR A PARK. SO IF WE COULD HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT. WITH THE SKATE PARK VASTLY APPROACHING US. ARE THERE GOING TO BE MONITORING RULES AND DO WE HAVE LIKE AN EXAMPLE OR SOMETHING WE CAN REVIEW ON THAT? TWO MORE.
SORRY. WHEN IT COMES TO ROADS THAT ARE BEING WIDENED, AND THIS MAY NOT BE YOUR TEAM, BUT ARE THE DOLLARS PART OF ESCROW? INCLUDING LIKE IF A WALL NEEDS TO BE BUILT BECAUSE I KNOW IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF RESIDENT TAX DOLLARS I MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE THAT TO P&Z SO AND THEN IF WE COULD JUST GET A COPY OF WHAT THE PARKS AND REC BUDGET IS JUST SO WE CAN SEE THE LINE ITEMS FOR AS WE'RE REVIEWING THINGS FOR THAT THANK YOU ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. I THINK MAXINE HAD THEM ALL FOR US. I DID HAVE ONE. WHEN IS THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I KNOW I KEEP ASKING, AND YOU ALREADY
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ANSWERED, BUT I FORGOT. THE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT, WHEN IS THAT? IS THAT COMING UP IN JUNE? I THOUGHT IT WAS IN JUNE. SO, WE HAVE A BUDGET RETREAT THAT... TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN JUNE. OKAY, SO THAT'LL BE FOR JULY. SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. MR. LONG. OKAY. THAT ADJOURNS OUR MEETING. CAN I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? I MOTION WE ADJOURN. I SECOND. THANK YOU. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 836. THANK YOU ALL. Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.