Jun 23, 2026 Special City Council

AND I GUESS A FOLLOW-UP, AND THIS IS FOR KEVIN.

I FORGOT THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME HERE.

HE MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THIS WAS APPROVED, THE CHANGES WERE AMENDED, AND STAFF SIGNED OFF ON THOSE, WHICH THEY, BY ORDINANCE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.

NO, I'M SORRY.

IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY QUALIFY AS A CONTRACT CHANGE OF THEM NOT AGREEING TO THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT.

IF WE'VE MADE THOSE CHANGES BEHIND SCENES WITH STAFF, RIGHT? WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, LET ME KIND OF REPHRASE THE QUESTION, OR AT LEAST SEE IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

FIRST OF ALL, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THERE'S NO BEEN SIGNED AMENDMENT THAT CHANGES THIS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.

SO WHETHER IT BE DONE AS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL OR SOMETHING THAT WAS SIGNED BY STAFF AT CITY MANAGER LEVEL, WHICH IS WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, NEITHER OF THOSE AMENDMENTS HAVE HAPPENED.

SO, TO GET THE AGREEMENT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING IF THIS OPEN SPACE IS NOW GOING TO BE MORE OF AN HOA MAINTAINED SPACE, OPEN SPACE, COMMON AREA, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REFERS TO IT AS A DEDICATED.

YOU KNOW, CITY PROPERTY, CITY OVER SPACE, AND TECHNICALLY YOU'VE GOT TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHO ACTUALLY SIGNS THE AMENDMENT, IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING ON PAPER TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT.

SO I, CAN YOU JUST...

TELL ME HOW, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHICH I HAVE THE ORDINANCE PULLED UP AND I'M READING IT.

HOW DO YOU INTERPRET THAT THIS MEETS THAT CRITERIA? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT.

TRAIL SYSTEMS AND OPEN SPACE MEETS THE DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR USABLE PARK SPACE.

IT IS OPEN TO PUBLIC AND NOT PRIVATE WITHIN THAT AMENITY OR THAT DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY.

SO THE LAND DEDICATION DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FROM A DEVELOPER OR ORDINANCE.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT AN OPEN PUBLIC PARK, BUT IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS NEEDED FOR, LIKE I SAID, OPEN SPACE TRAILS.

YOU KNOW IT.

AND AMENITIES WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY.

BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED, BECAUSE MAINTAINING BY THE CITY...

REALLY, IT'S MORE OF AN HOA OPEN SPACE AND NOT USABLE FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON.

YES, THEY GET TO USE THE OPEN SPACE, THE TRAILS, WHATEVER, FROM NORTH EASTRIDGE ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO WINCHESTER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY WITH CONNECTIVITY AND SO FORTH, HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED TO OFFSET THE MAINTENANCE.

VERSUS CITY MAINTAIN TO AN HOA MAINTAIN.

I GUESS FOR THAT AMENDMENT, I WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T HOLD UP THE PROCESS IF THIS MEETS OUR ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING.

THAT AMENDMENT, HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT MAKING THAT CHANGE.

ARE YOU AMENABLE TO THAT CHANGE

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AS WELL? I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION, AND THIS GOES TO PUBLIC WORKS.

CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT...

A PUBLIC STREET IS CONSIDERED...

OKAY, LET'S GO INTO...

BECAUSE IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION REAL QUICK, AND THEN I'LL LET YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

AND YOU CAN TURN ON THE RIGHT BUTTON.

YES, ALEX JOHNSON WITH LENAR.

GOOD EVENING.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

I WASN'T PRESENT FOR THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED THAT THE OPEN SPACE MAINTENANCE IS AN ITEM THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO AMEND IN WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.

LENNAR HAS BEEN OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION.

WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED.

SO THAT IS WHERE THAT STANDS TODAY.

OKAY, SO THAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER THE FACT, KEVIN.

OH, I SAID CAN THE AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT HAPPEN AFTER THE FACT, AFTER A FINAL PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WE AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT.

I MEAN, I GUESS WE CAN.

WE'VE AMENDED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AFTER THE FACT.

CERTAINLY YOU CAN.

I MEAN, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THE YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME EXPECTATIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT LAND AFTER IT GETS PLATTED, BECAUSE EVEN THE DEDICATION ULTIMATELY WOULD HAVE TO BE CONVEYED TO THE CITY, AND WE COULD COMPEL THAT.

BUT IF WE DON'T WANT IT, THEN WE PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE THE AGREEMENT.

WE WON'T WANT IT FOR THE REASONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS HAVING PUBLIC MAINTENANCE ON IT, THE ISSUES REGARDING PUBLIC TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO GO AHEAD AND START WORKING UP A LITTLE AMENDMENT TO GET THAT DONE AND HAVE IT APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT, MR. TODD.

HERE YOU GO, MAN.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ON THE SAME PAGE.

THIS FINAL PLAT IS FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THREE PHASES, I BELIEVE, IN THIS PROJECT.

AND THIS FINAL PLAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE LAW, WHICH REQUIRES US TO APPROVE IT.

WITH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS TRAIL SYSTEM IS PART OF THE OVERALL...

TRAIL SYSTEM PLAN OF THE CITY TO CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, THE LANDOWNER TO THE SOUTH IDEALLY WILL CONNECT TO IT, MUCH LIKE THE TRAILS AT RIVERSTONE WHERE I LIVE IS A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT'S OPEN TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC, BUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD HOMEOWNERS PAY FOR IT BECAUSE WE'RE THE DIRECT BENEFIT OF IT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE AMENDMENT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO...

MAKE SURE THE HOA, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE DIRECT BENEFICIARIES OF IT BECAUSE THEY LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

THERE'S NO PARKING, SO PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK TO IT.

IN THE FUTURE, WHEN OTHER TRAILS CONNECT TO IT, HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY I'LL BE ABLE TO RIDE MY BIKE NORTH TO SOUTH IN THIS CITY ON THAT TRAIL.

AND SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS TRAIL IS ALL ABOUT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE JUST NEED TO GET THIS FINAL PLOT APPROVED.

OH, THERE'S, SORRY.

CAN I ADD ON TO THAT? THERE'S ANOTHER PART TO THAT.

SO OUR ORDINANCE 3544, IT'S FOR THE HOA DOCUMENTS.

WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED HERE FOR THIS FIRST ROUND OF A DEVELOPMENT IS WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE HOA DOCUMENTS SHOWING THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IT USED TO BE THAT WE HAD TO, AS COUNSEL, REVIEW THEM AND APPROVE THEM UP HERE.

WE CHANGED THAT ORDINANCE SO THAT NOW ALL HOA DOCUMENTS HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY OUR ATTORNEY AND APPROVED.

AND THEN REALLY WE SHOULD BE ALSO SEEING THAT ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA TO SHOW THAT IT'S BEEN DONE.

BUT WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE THAT IMPACTS THE HOA, WHICH IMPACTS THE HOA DOCUMENTS.

HAVE YOU SEEN AND APPROVED THE NEW HOA DOCUMENTS TO SHOW THAT THIS CHANGE THAT WE WOULD BE CONDITIONALLY APPROVING IS SHOWN IN THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T APPROVE PLATS UNTIL THE HOA DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE? I HAVE NOT BEEN PRESENTED A SET OF HOA, YOU KNOW, DCC AND R'S WITH RESPECT TO THIS SUBDIVISION.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF GRANT WOULD HAVE DONE IT PRIOR TO ME IF THAT HAD BEEN DONE SOME TIME AGO, BUT I KNOW I HAVE NOT.

SO WE DON'T KNOW IF WE EVEN HAVE APPROVED HOA DOCUMENTS AT THIS TIME? WE KNOW THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HASN'T SEEN THEM AND APPROVED THEM.

IS REQUIRED TO DO PLATTING IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR ORDINANCES.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION THERE.

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AND THEN I GUESS THE PUBLIC STREETS QUESTION.

I'M GOING TO BE KIND OF SHOOTING OFF THE CUFF FOR PUBLIC STREETS.

MY OPEN DEFINITION OF PUBLIC STREETS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS A MAINTAINING AUTHORITY THAT IS NOT OF PRIVATE FUNDING, REGARDLESS OF COLLIN COUNTY, PRINCETON, TEXNOD, ETC., AND ALSO IS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS MAINTAINED, GATED, ETC.

THAT'S MY DEFINITION OF A PUBLIC STREET.

SO THE STREETS WITHIN A COMMUNITY WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED PUBLIC? YES.

JUST MAKING SURE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.

YES, MA'AM.

THEY WOULD STILL BE PUBLIC STREETS.

WELL, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THIS.

IF I COULD JUST ADD, WE HAVE WRITTEN THOSE CC&RS.

I CAN'T SAY AGAIN IF THOSE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

HE SAYS THEY HAVE NOT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE VERY EASILY.

ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE PERMIT PACKET AND MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE SHOWING THAT THOSE DOCUMENTS HAVE TO GET SUBMITTED TO THE ATTORNEY BECAUSE THAT'S ORDINANCE.

I GUESS.

SO THERE'S THAT.

IF WE CAN GET A COPY OF THOSE SENT OVER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THESE CHANGES ARE, IN FACT, REFLECTED WITHIN THAT.

BECAUSE WHO'S MANAGING 27.5 ACRES OF LAND IS KIND OF A BIG DEAL.

YEAH, WE CAN GET THAT SENT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE REVISING OUR CHECKLIST SUBMITTAL PROCESSES, WHICH HAVE BEEN GREATLY OUT OF DATE.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'LL ADD ON PART OF THE SUBMITTAL INTAKE TO MAKE SURE IT'S THERE.

I WILL MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE HOA DOCUMENTS ARE SENT OVER TO OUR ATTORNEY WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

AND FROM THERE, IF YOU CAN SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO ALL OF COUNCIL TO LET US KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED AND THAT THEY HAVE THAT CHANGE INCLUDED IN THERE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT LAND.

WE'LL TAKE IT TO ITEM H3.

MR. WASHINGTON, SECOND.

MISSING ONE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES 4-1.

[H3. 2026-147 Consider a request from Princeton Crossroads PFC to replat a project called Harvard Flats Addition, being a 15-acre tract of land located 596 N Beauchamp Boulevard, Princeton, Texas; and take appropriate action.]

MS. FALLON? ITEM H3, 2026-147, CONSIDERING REQUESTS FROM PRINCETON CROSSROADS PFC TO REPLANT A PROJECT CALLED HARVARD FLATS EDITION, BEING A 15-ACRE TRACK OF LAND LOCATED 596 NORTH BEECHAM BOULEVARD PRINCETON, TEXAS, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE WAS A CLERICAL ERROR IN THE DESCRIPTION, AND THIS IS LOCATED WEST OF BEECHER BOULEVARD, NORTH OF 380, CONSISTING OF 15 ACRES WITH HARVARD FLATS, ADDITION SUBDIVISION.

OTHER THAN THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THIS FOR APPROVAL.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT CORRECTED.

AND MY QUESTION WAS, CAN YOU REMIND US OF WHY THE REPLATTING WAS NECESSARY, PLEASE? I BELIEVE THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE UNDER THE PREVIOUS DIRECTION OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO COME FIRST WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS BEFORE PLATING WAS FINISHED.

AND SO NOW WE'RE CLEANING ALL THAT UP AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAT REFLECTS EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

DID WE HAVE TO DO A, OR NOT WE, BUT WITH THE REPLATTING OF THIS, DID THEY HAVE TO DO A NEW REPUBLICATION OF THE REPLAT THAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE? YEAH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES THAT REQUIRE NOTIFICATION FOR THIS FLAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE HARVARD FLATS, THOSE COME UP TO THE AREA, LIKE THERE'S...

THE TOWN CENTER PART, AND SO THE DRAINAGE OVER THERE.

YEAH, IT'S THE ONE THAT'S LOCATED, A GOOD CHUNK OF IT IS BEHIND THE OTHER PROPERTY, BUT THEY DO HAVE ACCESS.

AND CAN YOU PLEASE REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION? SO WITH ALL THE HARDSHIPS THE

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TOWN CENTER HAS HAD IN REGARDS TO THEIR DRAINAGE SITUATION OVER THERE, HOW HAS HARVARD FLAT...

RESPONDED WITH THEIR STUFF IN REGARDS TO ALL THAT WATER BEING TAKEN CARE OF OVER THERE.

BECAUSE WITH WHAT TOWN CENTERS HAD TO DO, AND IF I'M SEEING IT RIGHT, REMEMBERING IT RIGHT, THE WAY THAT HARVARD FLATS COMES UP TO IT, THEY WOULD BE IMPACTED A BIT, DEPENDING ON HOW TOWN CENTERS ARE ADDRESSING THEIR DRAINAGE AND THAT.

LOVELY 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN THAT'S OVER THERE.

SO HAS HARVARD FLATS LOOKED AT THAT, TAKEN ANY OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION? YEAH, BASED ON THE APPROVED CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS OR THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE, IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR THIRD-PARTY ENGINEERS.

WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THOSE ISSUES, OR IF THEY DIDN'T COME UP, THEY WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT AWARE OF ENGINEERING REQUIRING THEM TO DO ANY CHANGES RIGHT NOW.

WHICH FIRM WAS IT THAT WE USED FOR THAT? WAS IT KIMLEY HORN? WE USED KIMLEY HORN.

ALL RIGHT, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.

I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM H3.

I SECOND.

MY MOTION PASSES 5-0.

[K1. ORD-2026-06-23 Consider Ordinance No. 2026-06-23, canvassing the returns and declaring the results of the June 13, 2026 Runoff Election for the purpose of electing a Council Member Seat 4 to fill a vacancy for an unexpired term, and take appropriate action.]

THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, STARTING WITH ITEM K-1.

MS. FALLON? ITEM K-1, ORDINANCE 2026-06-23.

CONSIDER ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-06-23, CANVASSING THE RETURNS AND DECLARING THE RESULTS OF THE JUNE 13, 2026 RUNOFF ELECTION.

FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A COUNCIL MEMBER, SEAT FOUR, TO FILL A VACANCY FOR AN UNEXPIRED TERM AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

YEAH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K-1.

SECOND.

I'M IN FAVOR OF A SECOND.

ITEM PASSES 5-0.

[K2. 2026-06-23-R01 Consider Resolution 2026-06-23-R01 to ratify and renegotiate a professional services agreement with Bureau Veritas North America, Inc., for plan review and inspection services, and take appropriate action.]

ITEM K2, 2026-06-23-R01, CONSIDER RESOLUTION 2026-06-23-R01 TO RATIFY AND RENEGOTIATE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH VERO VERITAS NORTH AMERICA, INC.

FOR PLAN REVIEW AND INSPECTION SERVICES AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

TODAY BEFORE YOU IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A RATIFICATION AND ALSO A RENEGOTIATION.

BUREAU OF VERITAS NORTH AMERICA, INC.

HAS UNDERGONE A COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION PROCESS THAT IS COMPLIANT WITH TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 252.

THEY ARE ALSO AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR COOPERATIVE PARTNER, OMNIA PARTNERS CONTRACT NO.

222849-02, WITH TERM THAT EXPIRES DECEMBER 31, 2027.

THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE IN THE FEES BETWEEN THE 2020 AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED AND THE PROPOSED 2026 AGREEMENT THAT IS PENDING ACTION.

THE REQUEST IS BASICALLY A PROCEDURAL ACTION FOR PROPER AND ACCOUNTABLE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.

THE PROPOSED CONTRACT RATIFIES TO SEEK THE CUTS BEFORE YOU BECAUSE WE WANT BUDGET STABILITY.

WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CONTINUED CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW AND HEALTH INSPECTIONS FOR SPECIALIZED AND CRITICAL TIME-SENSITIVE SERVICE THAT'S NOT PERFORMED IN-HOUSE.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL WOULD ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND CONTINUITY.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

THIS IS THE COMPANY THAT DOES OUR HEALTH INSPECTIONS, CORRECT? YES.

AND YOU SAID WE WENT THROUGH, DID WE RE-BID THIS AS FAR AS THE COMPETITIVE BID? I KNOW WE SKIPPED OVER THAT SLIDE, BUT DID WE RE-BID THIS RECENTLY? WE DIDN'T NEED TO RE-BID IT BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY COOPERATIVELY, IT WAS ALREADY COMPETITIVELY BID WITH ONE OF OUR COOPERATIVE PARTNERS.

SO IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENT.

THERE WAS AN RFP THAT WAS ISSUED THROUGH OMNIA

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PARTNERS.

IT WAS COMPETITIVELY SOLICITED.

THERE WERE MULTIPLE PROPOSALS.

AND IT'S TO RATIFY THE CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED BY CITY MANAGER BORG AT THE TIME.

WELL, WE HAVE JUST GROWN SO EXPONENTIALLY THAT WE NEED TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE OF THE VALUES AND ALSO TO EXTEND IT AND KEEP GOING WITH THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED.

AND WHAT ARE THE VALUES? BECAUSE I KNOW AT ONE POINT COLLIN COUNTY WAS DOING OUR HEALTH INSPECTION, AND THEN WE MOVED TO THIS SERVICE FROM 2020 UNTIL NOW.

WHAT IS THERE? I GUESS, WHAT ARE WE GETTING? FROM 2020 TO NOW, WE'VE SPENT $226,637.

AND WHAT ARE THE, I GUESS, THE, SORRY, YOU SAID IT WAS $200,000? YEAH, IT WAS $200,000.

HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY? I'M SORRY.

YES, WE HAVE, FROM THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT TO NOW, WE HAVE SPENT $226,000.

$226,637.

IT'S EXCEEDED OUR ORIGINAL $50,000 FROM THAT TIME, BUT THEN THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN STAFF, DIFFERENT PERSONNEL, TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE CONTRACT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FOUND.

WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK FOR RATIFICATION, GET YOUR APPROVAL, AND IT IS A CURRENTLY COMPETITIVELY BID CONTRACT.

THEY DO HAVE VIABILITY, BUT WE JUST NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.

HERE'S THE PART THAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU PUT IT OUT THERE AND YOU GOT BIDS.

BIDS CAME IN.

BUT WHEN YOU ONLY BRING ONE OF THOSE BIDS IN FRONT OF US, WE DON'T GET TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER BIDS SAID.

WE'RE NOT GETTING TO COMPARE THEM OR LOOK AT SOMETHING TO SEE THE PROS, THE CONS, WHO GIVES WHAT.

WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY OF THAT.

SO IT JUST LOOKS LIKE ONE COMPANY IS AN OPTION.

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S THE SAME COMPANY WE ALREADY WERE USING, IT JUST KIND OF GIVES THAT VIBE OF WE'RE JUST LIKE PULLING IT FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THEM.

DID WE, LIKE IT BEGS THE QUESTION, DID WE REALLY LOOK AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS? AND AS YOU'RE SAYING, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE ONES THAT WERE ALREADY PRE-APPROVED WITHIN CITY CONTRACTS, NOT OPENING IT UP TO OTHER PEOPLE WHERE WE COULD MAYBE POTENTIALLY GET A BETTER OFFER.

SO AT THIS TIME, WE, THE CITY OF PRINCETON, DID NOT ISSUE A BID.

WE DID NOT PUBLISH IN THE PAPER, SEEK ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS.

ONE OF THE TIME-SAVING AVENUES FOR COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS IS TO PIGGYBACK AND TAIL OFF OF A COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY ISSUED A BID.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

WE ARE PARTNERING WITH OMNIA PARTNERS.

THEY HAVE EXECUTED A CONTRACT.

THEY HAVE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, THE PROPOSALS.

AND WE ARE WRITING, PIGGYBACKING OFF THEIR CONTRACT, AND IT'S PART OF THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO USE THEM.

AND IT'S ALSO ENCOURAGED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS TO TAKE OUT THE REDUNDANCY OF COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS ALL ACROSS TEXAS AND THE COUNTRY.

IF ONE DOES IT, GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE CAN USE AND MIRROR THEM.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY ARE.

THAT'S WHAT'S OCCURRED.

BUT WE'RE TO START INDIVIDUALLY BIDDING.

MAJORITY OF ALL OUR SERVICES WHILE IT IS A GOOD IDEA WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF THE MANPOWER THE MONEY THE TIME TO WE WOULD IT WOULD BE A HORRIBLE FUNNEL FOR ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT THE CITY NEEDS AND WE WERE TRYING TO CATCH UP TO WITH THE REVOLVING DOOR OF DIFFERENT PERSONNEL THAT'S COME IN AND OUT WE REALLY DO NEED IT WHERE WE CAN'T STREAMLINE AND WHAT WORKS AND WHAT HAS BEEN BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I HAVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HERE, FOLKS, THAT THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH BUREAU VERITAS INC., WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

THEY'VE BEEN PROFESSIONAL, AND THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN ACCEPTABLE AND ACCOUNTABLE.

AND BECAUSE WE DON'T DIRECTLY JUST HAVE THEM ON RETAINER AND PAY, THEY ACTUALLY PAY BY THE INSPECTION DONE.

I MEAN, MY CONCERN IS, SO WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S, OR ANOTHER PARTNER THAT'S SELECTING THESE BIDS FOR US AND TELLING US THIS IS THE BEST BID.

I'VE BEEN A PART OF A FEW CONTRACT RENEWALS OR RENEGOTIATING CONTRACTS WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SAVE BY LOOKING INTO IT.

AND THIS IS WHERE THE CITY, ON THE CITY SIDE, I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS THIRD-PARTY COMPANY IS, BUT I KNOW THAT...

I GUESS I DON'T LIKE ANOTHER ENTITY PICKING FOR US VERSUS US KIND OF HAVING THE CHOICE, KIND OF WHAT WE'RE KIND OF USED TO SEEING UP HERE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF MY ONLY TAKE ON THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS COMPETITIVE AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I GUESS MY FEAR IS THAT THIS COMPANY COULD BE, THEY

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COULD BE FRIENDS AND THEY JUST GOING TO.

PASS EVERY CITY TO THEM.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S LAWS AND STUFF AROUND THAT.

I'M NOT SAYING, I'M JUST TRYING TO AVOID CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE'RE KIND OF STUCK IN A CONTRACT BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS THIS IS THE BEST AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLUE IF THAT'S TRUE.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY HAVING GONE THROUGH, LIKE, LAST YEAR WAS MY FIRST TIME DOING BUDGET.

I WENT BACK TO 2017 AND WAS FOLLOWING, LIKE, ALL THE BUDGETS AND THE MONEY AND THE QUESTION MARKS.

AND I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH...

THING TO SAY, HEY, LET'S START LOOKING AT THESE COMPANIES AND LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS AND EVERYTHING.

BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE.

AND THAT'S WHERE, AGAIN, THAT HESITATION COMES IN WHERE WE'RE ONLY SEEING THE ONE OPTION AND NOT BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER OPTIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

BECAUSE IT COULD VERY WELL BE THAT WE WOULD SEE THIS AND BE LIKE, YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS THE PERFECT COMPANY.

HOW DO WE KNOW? WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT IF YOU DON'T? YES, SO EVEN COUNCIL, PAUL FERRIS, I'M THE INTERIM BUILDING OFFICIAL.

THE VALUE TO US AND OUR DEPARTMENT IS THE CONTINUITY OF HAVING, BECAUSE WE'VE USED BARRETT-FERRIS TOSS FOR HEALTH INSPECTIONS FOR, I'M NOT SURE WHEN, I GUESS THE COLLIN COUNTY CONTRACT WENT UP LIKE TWO YEARS AGO MAYBE.

BUT THEY KNOW THE CITY, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY, THEY KNOW ALL THE BUSINESSES.

THEY'RE EASY TO CONTACT, EASY TO GET A HOLD OF, AND TO GO AND FIND SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD PUT US BEHIND.

THEY'RE DOING OUR POOLS RIGHT NOW.

EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO GET THEIR POOLS OPEN FOR THE SUMMER.

SO IF WE STOPPED DOING THAT, THAT WOULD PUT ALL THAT, WOULD BE A BIG DELAY.

COULD WE NOT CONTINUE USING THEM FOR NOW AND THEN GET OTHER BIDS? I MEAN, IS THAT NOT AN OPTION? YES, WE COULD CONTINUE TO USE THEM, AND WE COULD ISSUE OUR OWN SOLICITATION UNTIL WE GET OTHER OPTIONS.

WE COULD DO THAT.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

I'VE SEEN THE MEMO THAT YOU PRESENTED.

YOU SHOWED THAT THE CONTRACT WITH BUREAU VERITAS EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.

HOWEVER, THE CURRENT CONTRACT HAS NO TERMINATION DATE.

SO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED BY THEN CITY MANAGER BORG WAS AN EVERGREEN CONTRACT.

AND SO THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT TO RENEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT.

ADD IN THE HEALTH INSPECTIONS, WHICH WE HAD BEEN DOING, BUT THAT WAS NOT COVERED UNDER THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, AND ALSO LINE IT UP WITH A TERM THAT WOULD END IN 27.

OKAY, SO THIS WILL THEN BE NEGOTIATED TO END WITH THE DECEMBER DATE, AND AFTER THEN WE WOULD DO LIKE A COMPETITIVE MARKET ANALYSIS ON RFP AND SOLICIT.

WELL, WE COULD DO EITHER.

I'M SORRY, MA'AM, I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

WE GO.

COULD ISSUE A SOLICITATION NOW AND CONTINUE TO APPROVE THIS TO USE THEM AND THEN GO AHEAD AND PUT OUT AN RFP FOR THESE SERVICES AND THEN THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE TO.

SO WHEN THE OTHER ONE TURNS OUT OR WE DECIDE TO NOT USE THEM ANYMORE AND JUST EXCLUSIVELY USE THE ONE CONTRACT, THE FRESH NEW CONTRACT UNDER A NEW SOLICITATION THAT THE CITY OF PRINCETON COULD ISSUE, THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION.

SO WHAT WOULD, IN YOUR ESTIMATION, BE THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE AND BENEFICIAL ROUTE FOR THE CITY? WELL, AT THE MOMENT, WE DO NEED, I THINK, A STOPGAP MEASURE BECAUSE THE CURRENT CONTRACT WE HAVE, AGAIN, WE HAVE GONE WELL.

IT'S ADMINISTRATIVELY HAVE GONE PAST THE ORIGINAL $50,000 IN EXPENSES.

THE CURRENT CONTRACT DOES NOT HAVE HEALTH INSPECTIONS.

WE DO NEED SOME SORT OF STOPGAP MEASURE.

THAT WOULD HAVE ALL OF THAT WRAPPED INTO ONE AND AT LEAST GET US THROUGH UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE.

HAVING AN RFP THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE CITY OF PRINCETON WOULD GIVE FRESH EYES OF FRESH PROPOSALS FROM A NUMBER OF COMPANIES, WHOEVER WOULD BE INTERESTED, TO DO THESE SERVICES FOR US AND STAFF CANNOT PERFORM THEM IN-HOUSE.

THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE CONFIRMATION OF WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION.

WE HAVE, AGAIN, EVERGREEN CONTRACT.

NO, TECHNICALLY, NO HEALTH INSPECTIONS ARE INCLUDED, AND WE DO NEED SOMETHING.

THIS IS LIKE A CLEANUP PROCEDURAL.

IT'S THE WAY I WAS LOOKING AT THIS INITIATIVE, CLEANUP PROCEDURES.

AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, THAT.

PROBABLY FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS WITH THE CHANGE OF PERSONNEL.

ALL RIGHT, MR. LONG.

YOU MENTIONED ABOUT, LIKE, IF WE DID THE ROUTE OF RUNNING THE PROCESS OURSELVES, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT TIME IT TAKES FOR A STAFF TO DO THAT.

CAN YOU ELABORATE

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ON WHAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE WITH OUR ALREADY STRAINED DEPARTMENT? WELL, MY POSITION WAS FRESHLY CREATED, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I DO WANT TO TACKLE, AND THIS CAN BE ONE OF THEM.

YOUR PRIORITY IS MY PRIORITY.

SO IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL, WE WOULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.

BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO TACKLE AND GET ON BOARD FOR 27.

BUT AGAIN, YOUR PRIORITY IS MY PRIORITY.

BUT YES, BECAUSE I AM NEW, I AM TRYING TO GET THE CONTRACTS IN ORDER.

WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN TERMS OF ON-CALL CONTRACTS AND MAKE IT EASIER AND QUICKER FOR STAFF TO DO THEIR JOBS.

I JUST NEED A PRIORITY OF WHAT WE NEED TO GO IN TERMS OF.

I THINK I'LL ALLUDE TO WHAT MAYOR ESCOBAR STATED EARLIER.

AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH AS HOW WE'RE DOING OUR PROCESS.

THAT AS COUNCIL, WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF PERCEPTION IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE WITH OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, LIKE EVEN IF YOU SAID THE COMPANY WAS OMNIA PARTNERS, SO IN THAT PROCESS WHERE THEY DO, WHERE YOU GUYS ARE PIGGYBACKING AND LOOKING AT THE METRICS THAT ARE COMPARED AND MAKING THAT SELECTION, PERHAPS IN THE PRESENTATION PROVIDING WHAT SOME OF THOSE METRICS WERE AND WERE NOT, AND WHY WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THEM OVER THE COMPANIES IN THERE.

SO IT'S MORE SO WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO THE RESIDENTS TO SHOW THEM, HEY, THIS IS HOW OUR STAFF WORK DILIGENTLY TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE THIS INFORMATION.

IT JUST KIND OF HELPS MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE DIGESTIBLE WHEN WE'RE GIVING A RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE WE ALSO SEE WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT COMPARISON.

AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GO WITH THE PROPOSAL SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE ONE CONTRACT TERMING.

IN 2027, THAT WE DO THE RENEGOTIATION TO ALIGN WITH OUR CURRENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, AND AT THE PROPER TIME, WE THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SOLICITATION.

MR. LONG, I APOLOGIZE.

I MAY NOT HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION PROPERLY.

IT TAKES MAYBE ABOUT THREE WEEKS TO THOROUGHLY CRAFT, GO BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF.

DOES THE SCOPE OF WORK MEET? THEN WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT WITH THE PAPER, A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS.

THEN WE POST IT ONLINE TO OUR BID NET, WHICH IS SOFT-ROLLED OUT.

IT'S STILL A NEW PROCESS, OUR ONLINE BID PORTAL, WORKING THROUGH THAT.

SO THAT'S A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND THEN DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PROPOSALS WE GET, SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE TO EXTEND A BID.

AND THEN THAT'S...

STAFF TO EVALUATE, RECEIVE, REVIEW, AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S ACCURATE, AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW STAFF TIME TO EVALUATE, DEVELOP A SCORE, BRING IT TO COUNCIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IF I RUSHED, I WOULD PROBABLY GET YOU IN 60 DAYS, BUT THE REALITY IS SOMETIMES IT COULD TAKE LONGER BECAUSE OF THE OTHER ITEMS IN THE WORK QUEUE, SO IT CAN BE SOMETIMES FOUR MONTHS.

SO IF, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE JOB.

TO ME TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING EVERYTHING OUT AND WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY.

SO, I MEAN, ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE CAN, VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT OR NOT, WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING WITH THIS COMPANY UNTIL WE GET THERE.

SO, IF IT TAKES THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, WE CAN ALWAYS BRING THIS ITEM BACK.

AND IF THAT'S THE TIME THAT WE SIGN A CONTRACT, I THINK THAT'S IT.

I DON'T WANT TO SIGN A CONTRACT NOW JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT.

IF WE DON'T HAVE TO, SERVICES ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.

YOU GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO BE...

YOU KNOW, IN A BIND, I THINK THAT THIS IS ADDED TO THE LIST.

IT SHOULD MEET MY OPINION ON THIS.

AS A PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE, AND THEN TO MOVE IN THE WAY THAT WE HAVE ALIGNED OUR PROCESSES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S RENEGOTIATED TO ALIGN WITH OUR CURRENT PROCESSES, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE TO DOING...

THE SOLICITATION AND WHATEVER ELSE MIGHT COME ALONG WITH IT.

YEAH, I AGREE.

I THINK SHE GAVE...

EXPLANATION.

IT WASN'T SO THAT IT WASN'T AS IF THIS ONE WAS JUST PICKED OUT BECAUSE THAT'S WHO HE CURRENTLY HAS.

THERE'S A SYSTEM THAT IS USED THAT DOES THOSE METRICS FOR US.

THE ONLY THING IS THAT WE WERE NOT PROVIDED THE VISUALS OF WHY THOSE OR THE METRICS AS TO WHY THOSE WERE SELECTED.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE WAS NOT A COMPETITIVE BIDDING THAT HAPPENED IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS SELECTION.

IT'S JUST THE PRESENTATION WAS NOT PRESENTED TO PROVIDE US THOSE COMPARISONS.

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I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMEMBER GRAVES IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS SO WE DON'T HINDER THAT.

YOU KNOW, THIS CONTRACT IS REQUESTED TO BE UNTIL DECEMBER 31, 2027.

I JUST THINK MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT BE RETROACTIVE IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE DOING THIS.

JUST MOVING FORWARD WHEN THESE ARE PRESENTED AND WE'RE USING THAT OMNITRACK.

MAYBE YOU'LL GIVE US SOME MORE, FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, A PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS, HEY, WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

THIS IS WHAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN PLAYING USING THIS COMPANY VERSUS THIS COMPANY.

WE LOOKED AT THESE COMPARABLES.

YOU KNOW, YOU GO ON A WEBSITE, YOU'RE BUYING YOUR CAR, AND YOU GET TO SELECT THEM, COMPARE THEM, AND YOU GET THE SAME PROCESS HERE WHERE WE CAN JUST SEE, YEAH, THIS ONE IS BETTER.

AND THIS IS WHY WE SELECTED THIS ONE.

I THINK IT JUST HELPS WITH PUBLIC CONSUMPTION SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE WHY WE'RE MAKING THAT SELECTION.

AND THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL ADD IS NOT JUST THE DIFFERENCE IN COST, BUT ALSO THE DIFFERENCE IN SERVICE, RIGHT? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE FOR US, AND WITH OUR CURRENT BANDWIDTH, I KNOW THAT WE'RE PLEASED WITH THEIR SERVICE, CORRECT, AS FAR AS WHAT THEY DO FOR US.

SO I KNOW THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE DECISION AS WELL.

AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU.

I KNOW RECENTLY IN YOUR NEW ROLE HERE, NEW TO THE CITY, YOU'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET THINGS CLEANED UP AND MAKE SURE THAT...

ALL OF OUR POLICIES AND EVERYTHING ARE TIGHTENED UP AND FOLLOWED, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

KUDOS.

I ECHO THAT.

ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? YEP.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K-2.

I SECOND.

MS. DAVID GRAY SECOND.

[K12. 2026-161 Discuss and provide direction regarding potential U.S. Army Corps of Engineers land leases, including required five-year planning for leased parkland, recreational improvements, lake access, public amenities, and related opportunities, and discussion regarding the Harvest Point concept and potential coordination with surrounding development opportunities. ]

AND I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER ON THE NEXT ITEM.

MOTION PASSES 5-0.

WE'RE GOING TO JUMP TO K-12.

ITEM K-12-2026-161, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION REGARDING POTENTIAL U.S.

ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS LAND LEASES, INCLUDING REQUIRED FIVE-YEAR PLANNING FOR LEASED PARKLAND, RECREATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, LAKE ACCESS, PUBLIC AMENITIES AND RELATED OPPORTUNITIES, AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE HARVEST POINT CONCEPT AND POTENTIAL COORDINATION.

SORRY, POTENTIAL COORDINATION WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

ALL RIGHT, AND BEFORE THEY GET INTO THEIR PRESENTATION, I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A LITTLE CONTROVERSY WITHIN THE CITY ON HOW THIS PROJECT CAME TO US AND WHO'S BEHIND IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO ORIGINALLY THE CITY WAS LOOKING AT ACQUIRING THIS LAND.

THEY PUT OUT A BID FOR IT.

BUT IT TURNS OUT THERE WAS A FEW OTHER BIDS.

THERE WAS ABOUT THREE OTHER BIDS, AND THE CITY WAS NEVER CONTACTED BACK.

BUT WHEN I WAS INTRODUCED TO BLAKE ZHAO, WHO IS ON THIS PROJECT, HE BROUGHT THIS PROJECT TO ME AND ASKED BASICALLY, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HERE? AND THAT HE WAS PENDING ON THE CONTRACT.

WE INFORMED THE CITY, LIKE, HEY, THIS PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY TWO OTHER DEVELOPERS ON IT.

HE WANTED TO WORK WITH THE CITY.

THE CITY DECIDED NOT TO WORK WITH HIM.

OBVIOUSLY HE STILL HAD THIS SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT HERE UM JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THE EDC WAS LOOKING AT THIS LAND AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND AND IT WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSION ON ON HOW DID ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT GET HERE UM SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THE CITY AT THE BEGINNING DID NOT WORK WITH THIS DEVELOPER BECAUSE THEY WAS TRYING TO ACQUIRE THE LAND BUT UM WHAT I DID LIKE ABOUT THIS DEVELOPER COMPARED TO THE OTHERS THE OTHERS WANTED TO PUT MOSTLY HOMES ON THIS LAND AND PROBABLY ONLY HOMES IN THIS LAND.

AND THIS DEVELOPER, BLAKE ZHAO, ACTUALLY CAME TO ME AND SAID, HEY, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HERE? AND I MADE A COUPLE POSTS ABOUT WHAT ENTERTAINMENT AND WHAT BUSINESSES THE RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE, AND THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF CAME TO THIS PRESENTATION NOW.

SO WE MET IN DECEMBER, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE DECEMBER TO BRING IT HERE.

AND THIS IS A LITTLE OUT OF THE NORM.

WE USUALLY HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS BEHIND THE SCENES.

FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION AND JUST TO DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, I WANTED TO PUT YOU GUYS INVOLVED INTO THE BEGINNING PROCESS OF THIS SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WORKS FROM THE BEGINNING UNTIL NOW.

SO RIGHT NOW I'LL HAND THIS OVER TO MR. DELL.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

MY NAME IS BLAKE ZOLL, DEVELOPER OF HARVEST POINT, AND THERE'S AN ADJACENT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT MY TEAM WILL BE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.

I WAS ABLE TO PUT ON THE SCREEN A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS, JUST SO YOU'RE ALL AWARE.

IT'S WHEN YOU CROSS ON THE 380 BRIDGE COMING FROM FARMERSVILLE INTO PRINCETON.

IT'S THE VERY FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY AS YOU COME INTO

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THE CITY.

A VERY SPECIAL PIECE, I THINK, THAT REALLY REFLECTS A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE DONE FROM OUR STUDIES FOLLOWING THE CITIES, WHETHER IT BE THE CENSUS FROM 2024, WHETHER IT BE THE MASTER PLAN FROM 2018, WHETHER IT BE, QUITE FRANKLY, COMMON SENSE OF WHAT WOULD BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF, I GREW UP IN PLANO.

I MOVED TO MCKINNEY IN EARLY, LIKE LATE 1999, 2000.

121 WAS A TWO-WAY FARM ROAD, SERIOUSLY.

I GRADUATED FROM MCKINNEY HIGH SCHOOL.

SO I SHARE ALL OF THAT BECAUSE I WATCHED MY WHOLE LIFE THESE AREAS, PLANO, ALLEN, FRISCO, MCKINNEY, AND BEYOND, GROW.

AND THINGS THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

WITH THAT SAID, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE PRIORITIES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT, AND I SAY WE, REALLY, IF YOU LOOK UP, IT'S REALLY REFLECTING BACK TO THE CITY SURVEY OF THE RESIDENTS AND, LIKE WAS JUST MENTIONED, JUST KIND OF WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR GROWTH, SUSTAINED FUTURE OF A CITY THE SIZE OF PRINCETON AND THE GROWTH RATE THAT IT'S CURRENTLY SEEING.

SO I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE LISTENING TO A LOT OF THE COUNCIL MEETING AND IRONICALLY ENOUGH, A LOT OF THE BIKE RIDING, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY DISCUSSED, WE WILL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT OF WHAT THIS COULD BE, AND JUST A PREFACE COULD BE, BECAUSE THIS, LIKE WAS SAID, THIS IS A PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE NORM, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE COMMUNITY-BASED, PARKLAND-BASED, TRAIL-BASED, LAKE-BASED.

I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE POSITION THAT WE BELIEVE THE CITY OF PRINCETON IS IN, AND THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY, AND I'LL MOVE ON, IS THIS LAKE LAVON IS THE ONLY CITY, LAKE THAT'S IN COLLIN COUNTY THAT THE WHOLE CITY IS ON.

I MEAN THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

YES LAKE LOUISVILLE HAS A SMALL PIECE FOR COLLIN COUNTY BUT THIS IS IT.

SO IT'S A PRETTY INTERESTING POSSIBILITY TO BE AN EPICENTER AND REALLY THAT'S A KEY WORD OF REFLECTION OF THE CITY AN EPICENTER AND SO WHAT WE SEEK THROUGH TONIGHT IS NOT SILLY I MEAN FEEL FREE BUT IS ULTIMATELY INPUT SO THAT THIS IS MORE OR LESS A COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY BECAUSE WE DON'T WE WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS COMMUNITY-BASED CITY-BASED AND YES THERE IS ADDITIONAL BENEFITS TO THE CITY TO THE RESIDENTS BUT WE'LL START THERE SO I'VE GOT MY TEAM HERE THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE THUS FAR AND A LOT OF THIS INCLUDES PIECES THAT INCLUDE THE ARMY CORPS AND SOME OF THE PARKS, ESPECIALLY TWIN GROVES, SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

SO I HAVE LEE RADLEY, THE SEG ENGINEERING, IAN CHAVEZ, AND THEN WE HAVE T.

WILSON, AND THEY'LL GET UP AND KIND OF SHARE A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN I'LL COME AT THE END IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I FEEL I MAY HAVE MISSED OR IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING UP.

SO JUST TO KIND OF ONE LAST SLIDE HERE IS MY TEAM HAS BEEN A PART OF SOME MAJOR PROJECTS ACROSS NORTH TEXAS, AND WE CAN GET INTO A LOT OF THAT ON AN THEIR BASIS BUT WE WE FEEL THAT WE'VE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING A STRONG TEAM TO THE CITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND COLLABORATE WITH SO LAST THING IS THE VISION AND ACTION WILL ENTAIL A LOT OF THINGS AGAIN THAT IT'S A LOT OF COOL STUFF YOU KNOW AND WE LOOKED AT THE AMENITIES REFLECTING THE PRINCETON'S YOU KNOW THE PRIORITIES AND THE LONG-TERM VISION AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SHOW QUITE A BIT OF THINGS AND THE LAST I'LL JUST REPREFACE IT AGAIN WHERE THIS IS NOT A A PROMISE.

THIS IS MORE JUST THIS IS WHAT IT COULD BE, AND OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL STEPS TO GET THERE, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SHOW YOU ALL TONIGHT.

SO THIS TIME I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LEE.

AND REAL QUICK BEFORE LEE STARTS, I JUST WANT TO JUST SPIT IT OUT AGAIN.

THIS IS A CONCEPT.

THIS IS BASICALLY THEM COMING TO THE CITY AND ASKING IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO IN, IF YOU GUYS LIKE THE AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO GO WITH.

AND I'LL PUT THIS OUT THERE TOO.

THEY ARE A DEVELOPER ON AN ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE CORELAND.

SO WHEN THEY CAME TO ME AND I SEEN WHERE THEY ARE AND I SEEN THE CORELAND AND TWIN GROWS PARK, IT MADE SENSE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IN THE PAST WE GAVE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY EVERY DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COME TO THE CITY FOR SOME TYPE OF DEAL.

SO FOR ME, IT'S LIKE, WHY, LET'S PLAN THIS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE ASKING WHAT DO WE WANT, IN A WAY TO WHERE WE CAN ESSENTIALLY GAIN SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST.

ENTERTAINMENT, JUST RESTAURANTS, WE CAN ACTUALLY GAIN COMMUNITY SPACE, WE CAN ACTUALLY GAIN MORE PARKS, WE CAN ACTUALLY GAIN MORE

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THINGS FOR THE KIDS TO DO, MORE THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO DO.

I THINK THAT THAT'S STUFF THAT WE'RE MISSING HERE IN PRINCETON.

SO THIS IS A TWO-PART THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF ON 150 ACRES WILL COME AT A LATER TIME.

THIS IS FOCUSED MORE ON THE CORE LAND TO SEE IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IF WE CAN GET BOTH DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME AND IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE CITY, THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE SHOULD WE SHOULD GO GO ABOUT IT SO I JUST WANT TO JUST, THE FOCUS IS NOT REALLY ON THEIR PIECE, IT'S THE CORE LAND.

WELL, JUST A QUICK THING.

THIS PRESENTATION WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

WILL THIS BE MADE? IT WILL.

ADDED? WE CAN ADD IT TO THE AGENDA? YEAH, IT JUST WASN'T DONE BY THE DEADLINE, AND IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE IT.

WE HAD TO GET THE AGENDA OUT, SO THIS WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE, TOO.

YEP.

ELITE.

ALRIGHT, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

LEE RADLEY, I'M WITH SEG ENGINEERING.

WE DID THE LAND PLANNING ON THIS AND ARE WORKING ON THE DUE DILIGENCE AND WORKING WITH BLAKE'S TEAM TO TRY AND MEET THE GOALS OF THE CITY.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE MOMENT IT'S COMPLETELY UNDEVELOPED LAND OTHER THAN THAT EXISTING PARK, TWIN GROVES PARK.

AND SO REALLY WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE AMENITIZE THIS FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.

WE WANTED TO START WITH THAT EXISTING PARKLAND, AND WE KNOW THE CITY'S ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH THE ARMY CORPS TAKING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF SOME OF THE CORE PARKS.

SO WE THOUGHT, ALL RIGHT, LET'S START THERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

OH, DO I? GOOD DEAL.

SO WITH THAT EXISTING PARKLAND, IT'S CURRENTLY ONLY REALLY A PARKING LOT AND BOAT LAUNCH.

AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF ADDITIONAL AREA THAT'S...

ZONED ESSENTIALLY BY THE CORPS FOR PARKLAND THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED.

SO WE LOOKED AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SOME CAMPING, POTENTIALLY GLAMPING, RV, AND THEN SOME PUBLIC FISHING OPPORTUNITY AND, OF COURSE, IMPROVE THAT EXISTING PARKING AREA AND BOAT LAUNCH BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT THEY'RE NOT IN GREAT SHAPE.

SO BY IMPROVING THIS AREA, DEVELOPING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IT, WE'RE ABLE TO ALSO IMPROVE THAT EXISTING SERVICE.

THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 380, CLOSE TO 380, WE ANTICIPATE EXTENDING TWIN GROVES ESSENTIALLY DOWN THAT ENTIRE PENINSULA, RIGHT? AND SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TAKE THAT PARKLAND AND TURN IT INTO A REGIONAL BENEFIT FOR THE CITY, FOR THIS AREA.

AND REALLY PROVIDE SOME UNIQUE AMENITIES, RIGHT? UNIQUE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

EVERYTHING FROM AN AMPHITHEATER TO ROPES COURSE TO, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, BOARDWALK, KAYAK, RENTAL.

REALLY TRY AND TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING THAT WE IMAGINED, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO A DAY-USE SUMMER CAMP ALMOST IN THIS AREA.

IT'S HIGHER DENSITY, BUT USING...

THE LAKE TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL.

SO WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, LAKE LEVON AS THIS UNTAPPED RESOURCE FOR THE CITY.

WE THINK THIS COULD BE A FANTASTIC OPTION.

AS YOU MOVE FURTHER SOUTH ALONG THE PENINSULA, WE LOOKED AT LEAVING THAT VERY TIP OF THE PENINSULA RELATIVELY UNTOUCHED, A LOW-DENSITY AREA.

THAT WAY YOU'VE GOT SOME PROTECTION OF THAT EXISTING TREAT AREA.

WE'D STILL HAVE CONNECTIVITY VIA THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND POTENTIALLY COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE DISC GOLF, SOMETHING THAT'S LOW IMPACT ON THAT WHOLE AREA.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL USERS ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, SO HOW WE CAN DEVELOP THAT PROPERLY WITH THEM IN MIND AS WELL.

THEN WE MOVE AROUND TO THE SOUTH KIND OF COVE AREA.

AND FOR THIS, WE REALLY LOOKED AT, OKAY, WHAT ELSE IS THE CITY LOOKING FOR? WHAT WAS IN THE CHECKLIST? WHAT WAS IN THE...

PARKS DEPARTMENT REPORTS AND CAME UP WITH, WELL, SPORTS FIELDS ARE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY REALLY IS NEEDING.

AND CAN WE PLACE THEM DOWN HERE? CAN WE EFFICIENTLY LOCATE IT? AND IT TURNS OUT WE WERE ABLE TO.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT ARE SOME AMENITIES AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE IN THIS REGION OF COLLIN COUNTY? AND TWO THINGS STOOD OUT TO US.

ONE WAS ANY KIND OF GOLFING OPPORTUNITY.

YOU'VE REALLY GOT TO GET TO MCKINNEY-ALLEN.

YEAH, FIND THE GOLF COURSE AND MARINA.

I MEAN, I MAPPED IT

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FROM RIGHT HERE.

THE NEAREST MARINA IS 28 MINUTES AWAY.

SO FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON, THERE'S NOT A GOOD OPTION TO ACCESS AND UTILIZE LAKE LAVON, IN OUR OPINION, NOT A GOOD ENOUGH ACCESS.

SO WE THINK THAT THIS IS A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTS AMENITY FOR THEM.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO IAN.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

EXCUSE ME.

MY NAME IS IAN CHAVITZ.

I'M A LAWYER WITH THE LAW FIRM OF LIPPUS MATTHIAS.

I HEAD OUR FIRM'S ENVIRONMENTAL AND ENERGY GROUP, AND I'VE SPENT PROBABLY ABOUT THE LAST 15 TO 20 YEARS WORKING WITH THE CITY OF DENISON AND A PRIVATE DEVELOPER ON LAKE TEXOMA TO REALLY RECOGNIZE THE POTENTIAL AND THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT I THINK BLAKE AND LEE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND MARY, YOU MENTIONED IT AS WELL, OF HAVING A CORPS OF ENGINEERS LAKE WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY AND WITHIN YOUR CITY.

THE REASON IT IS UNIQUE AND IT COULD REALLY BE A, IT IS A, AS BLAKE MENTIONED, MAYOR MENTIONED, IT IS IN FACT A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC LAND, THE PUBLIC LAND BEING OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

AND SO THERE REALLY ARE THREE ULTIMATE PARTNERS TO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO REALLY REALIZE THE FULL RECREATIONAL BENEFITS OF THIS AREA.

IT'S THE CITY, IT'S A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, AND IT'S THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF...

BACKGROUND ON THE LAKE.

SO IT'S A CORPS OF ENGINEERS OWNED LAKE.

THE CORPS OWNS THE LAND AROUND IT.

THE CORPS OWNS THE LAKE BOTTOM.

THE PRIMARY PURPOSE FOR THE LAKE IS, AND THESE ARE ALL CORPS LAKES, IS FOR FLOOD CONTROL.

SECONDARY PURPOSE IS RECREATION.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD CONTROL PURPOSE, YOU CANNOT BUILD HABITABLE STRUCTURES, PERMANENT STRUCTURES IN THE LAND AROUND THESE LAKES.

WHICH REALLY MAKES IT A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR RECREATION AND THAT IS THE SECONDARY PURPOSE BEHIND THESE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PROJECTS AND WHEN I SAY IT'S A SECONDARY PURPOSE UNDER FEDERAL LAW IT'S THE SECONDARY PURPOSE AND SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS BECAUSE IT IS CORPS OF ENGINEERS LAND THE YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY COULD COME UP WITH ITS DESIRES A PRIVATE DEVELOPER COULD LOOK TO HELP FACILITATE THAT WITH UPLAND DEVELOPMENT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT ROLE.

THAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS TO PLAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I SPENT A LONG TIME WITH LAKE TEXOMA DOING AND SUCCESSFULLY BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THERE.

SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF JUST QUICK BACKGROUND.

THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS IS GOING TO BE A PLAYER HERE.

THEY HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT ROLES.

AND YOU LOOK UP THERE, THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.

THE MASTER PLAN AROUND THE LAKE, THINK OF IT AS ZONING, RIGHT? IT'S THE DIFFERENT USES AROUND THE LAKE.

WHAT ARE THEY ZONED AS? WHAT CAN THOSE AREAS BE USED FOR? THE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, FROM THE EXISTING PARK TO WHAT COULD BE A PARK GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND, ARE RIGHT NOW.

MIX OF LOW DENSITY RECREATION AND HIGH DENSITY RECREATION WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WOULD BE TO AMEND THAT MASTER PLAN TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE APPORTION SORRY NOW IT'S LOW DENSITY TO HAVE A PORTION OF IT BE HIGH DENSITY TO ALLOW FOR THE HIGHER DENSITY USES THAT THAT LEE SPOKE ABOUT THE NEXT AUTHORIZATION WOULD BE WHAT WE CALL A SHORELINE USE PROGRAM SO YOU HAVE THE ALLOWABLE TYPES OF USES AND THEN SPECIFIC USES.

A ROPES COURSE, AN AMPHITHEATER, THE FLOATING OBJECTS, A MARINA, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THE CORPS HAS TO APPROVE.

THE NEXT THING THAT THE CORPS HAS TO APPROVE WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY PROVIDING A REAL ESTATE GRANT, RIGHT? A LEASE, AND THAT LEASE HAS TO BE WITH A PUBLIC ENTITY.

SO YOU CANNOT HAVE A PRIVATE DEVELOPER COME IN AND LEASE LAND BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE PURPOSE IS RECREATION AND PUBLIC RECREATION.

YOU CAN'T EXCLUDE THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN'T HAVE PRIVATE USES THERE.

SO A LEASE, AND THIS IS ALONG THE LINES OF THE LEASE THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DISCUSSING OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THE EXISTING PARKS.

AND WHENEVER THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS OR REALLY ANY FEDERAL AGENCY TAKES AN ACTION LIKE THIS, THERE IS A LAW CALLED THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT, OR NEPA.

THAT LAW REQUIRES AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.

OF ALL ASPECTS OF ALL

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OF THESE AUTHORIZATIONS.

THE LEASING OF THE LAND, THE REZONING, THE SHORELINE USE.

AND SO THAT'S A PUBLIC PROCESS.

THERE'S EITHER AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT OR AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.

THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS RUNS THAT PROCESS, GENERALLY WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S OPEN.

THE CITY CAN COMMENT.

THE PUBLIC CAN COMMENT.

THE FULL REPORT IS PUBLIC AND THE ULTIMATE DECISION IS PUBLIC.

SO, YOU KNOW, BLAKE HAS BROUGHT ME ON TO REALLY ASSIST WITH THE CORPS, HELP GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT REALLY THE DRIVER IS GOING TO BE THE CITY BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE THE APPLICANT, YOU WOULD BE DICTATING AND DETERMINING THE TYPES OF USES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HERE.

SO THAT'S THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS PIECE.

AS I SAID, THEY REALLY ARE THE THIRD PARTNER TO THIS PUBLIC-PRIVATE.

PARTNERSHIP.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU BEFORE YOU GO.

THAT'S TERRENCE HERE.

SO THAT PORTION WHERE THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WHERE YOU STATED THAT THE LEASE OF THE LAND WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A PUBLIC ENTITY, IS THAT THE INTENT OF THE CITY GOING INTO A P3 POTENTIALLY? WOULD THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS BE CONTINGENT UPON THE CITY OF PRINCETON ENTERING A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ON THIS? AS A MATTER OF LAW, NO.

YOU KNOW, AS A MATTER OF LAW, NO.

NOW, HOW THE CITY DECIDES TO ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER TO HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DECISION THAT THE CITY WOULD MAKE.

BUT, NO, IT'S NOT CONTINGENT UPON THAT IN ANY WAY.

WHAT THE CORPS DOES WANT TO SEE AND ACTUALLY REQUIRES, THOUGH, IS THEY, BEFORE THEY GO AHEAD AND LEASE LAND, THEY DO REQUIRE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT IF THEY'RE LEASING OUT THEIR LAND, THAT THERE'S A PLAN FOR IT, THAT THERE'S FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO REALIZE THE USES THAT THEY ARE LEASING THE LAND OUT FOR, AND THAT IT CAN BE MAINTAINED AND OPERATED.

SO WHILE A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP CAN FACILITATE THAT, IT'S NOT REQUIRED AS A MATTER OF LAW.

IT'S NOT A CONTINGENCY FOR THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

THERE'S PERFECT.

SO WILL YOUR PROJECT TAKE ON THE...

FULL FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO REOPEN THE PARK.

BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE $23 MILLION FOR ALL OF THE PARKS THAT THE CORPS CLOSED OVER HERE, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY ACQUIRING A COUPLE OF THEM.

BUT THE ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE SOME OF THE ONES WITH THE MOST DAMAGE WITH THE EROSION AND ALL OF THAT.

AND SO...

IN ORDER TO EVEN MAKE THEM ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, A LOT OF MONEY IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO INTO THE REPAIRS AND THE RESTORATION OF THAT AREA.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND WE'RE SAYING, LIKE, THE PERKS OF HAVING THAT LAND AND USING THAT LAND, WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COST TO EVEN GET IT UP TO PAR TO USE IT.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOUR PROJECT IS TAKING ON THAT FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OR IS THE EXPECTATION ON OUR TAXPAYERS? I WOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SO WHAT THIS IS, THAT'S A PART OF THE PART TWO, IS IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL, LET'S JUST SAY THAT YOU GUYS LIKE IT, WE WILL COME BACK WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION ON WHAT THAT IS.

AND THEN...

KEEP IN MIND, THE CORPS REQUIRES A FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR EACH PARK THAT WE LEASE OUT.

THIS WILL BE STARTING THE FIRST PARK.

THIS WOULDN'T BE GOING INTO THE OTHER THREE RIGHT NOW.

BUT FOR US, I KNOW THE CORPS, WHEN WE SPOKE WITH THE CORPS, THEY ARE WILLING TO MOVE AS FAST AS WE ARE.

SO THIS COULD HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY THAT WE DON'T, LET'S JUST SAY WE DON'T DO IT A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THESE PARKS MIGHT NOT EVER, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO REDEVELOP EACH ONE.

SO I THINK THAT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A DEAL, AND THIS IS MY THOUGHTS, IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A DEAL, LET'S GIVE A DEAL FOR THEM TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A DEAL ANYWAY, BECAUSE WE GIVE DEALS FOR HOMES FOR LESS.

SO IT WOULD BE A SITUATION OF IF IT MAKES SENSE, IT MAKES SENSE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEED A PART TWO.

IT'S HARD TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT NUMBERS RIGHT NOW WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF US.

BUT WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK AT THE PART TWO.

LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST TO GO OVER THE CONCEPT ITSELF, AND THEN WHAT THE EXPENSES WILL BE WILL BE WHAT WE WILL SEE THE NEXT MEETING.

SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD ON A PROJECT THAT WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS ON? IT'S NOT AGREEING.

THIS IS GIVING YOUR COMMENTS ON IT SO THEY CAN COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AT THAT TIME.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST TO INTRODUCE THIS PROJECT.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT AT LEAST WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

I REMEMBER WHEN OUR PREVIOUS DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, TOMMY MAPP, INTRODUCED THIS IDEA AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AS

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COUNCIL, I THINK IT WAS BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2024.

PRINCETON IS IN A UNIQUE POSITION WHERE WE ARE UNLIKE THE OTHER CITIES, WE ARE LANDLOCKED, AND WE MAY NOT THINK ABOUT IT, BUT TOURISM IS GOING TO FEATURE VERY HEAVILY IN TERMS OF OUR ECONOMIC EXPANSION AND IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING DOLLARS INTO PRINCETON.

SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY PIVOTAL TIME TO BE DISCUSSED IN THIS PROJECT AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHERE IT WOULD GO AND I HOPE AS A CITY WE HAVE BEEN UH...

TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND I'M GLAD MISTER UH...

OR MAY OR MISTER MAYOR TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO BRING YOU HERE TODAY TO AT LEAST START THE DISCUSSION.

TO WET THE APPETITE OF OUR RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN START THINKING ABOUT THE EXCITING THINGS THAT ARE PLANNED AND HOPEFULLY, I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THIS REALIZED. SO, THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY AND I'M SO GLAD THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND I DO WANT TO UNDERSCORE ON THE TRANSPARENCY PART THAT REALLY, IS THE I MEAN, SOME WOULD SAY THE BEAUTY, SOME WOULD SAY THE CURSE OF NEPA WHICH IS THAT, IT'S A COMPLETE OPEN PROCESS WHERE EVERYONE AGENCIES ARE, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC IS OF. IT IS COMMENT AND ALL THOSE COMMENTS ARE MADE PUBLIC AND RESPONDED TO BY THE FEDERAL AGENCY.

ALL RIGHT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE COST TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK BOTH THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SIDES THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.

AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT BUT I'VE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED HUNDREDS OF ACRES, THOUSANDS OF LOTS IN PRINCETON.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE CITY PRETTY WELL, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT EXTENSIONS ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED.

SO WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED WATER MAINS.

THEY'RE ALREADY PART OF THE MASTER WATER PLAN FOR THE CITY TO GET WATER TO THE SITES.

WE KNOW WE'VE GOT THE TXDOT CORRIDOR THAT'S PLANNED.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO COORDINATE WITH TXDOT ON MAKING SURE THAT WE PLAN OUR PRIVATE SIDE, PLAN THE PARKS ACCORDINGLY WITH WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO BRING UPGRADES TO 380.

WE KNOW THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS ARE IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S MASTER TRAIL PLAN, ALTHOUGH THIS AREA REALLY ISN'T ENVISIONED IN THE CURRENT TRAIL PLAN.

WE THINK THIS UNLOCKS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A WATERFRONT TRAIL.

YEAH, SYSTEM STARTED REALLY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INCREDIBLE PART OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO WE KNOW OUR THOROUGHFARE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WITHIN THE PRIVATE SECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ACCESS THROUGHOUT.

IT'S ALL PART OF THE CITY'S MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S BEING UPDATED NOW, SO WE WANT TO COORDINATE WITH YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN BRINGING A REGIONAL LIFT STATION IS ALSO PART OF THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN, SO WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE SITE IT'S PLANNED FOR, AND IT'S DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT SUPPORTS REALLY IMPROVING THIS WHOLE AREA OF PRINCETON RATHER THAN JUST THIS SITE.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL THAT, AND THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T SAY RIGHT THIS SECOND WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THAT SHARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITHIN THIS AREA, AND THAT DECIDES WHAT SOME OF THESE ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE TIMING LOOKS LIKE.

SO IT'S ALL PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT WE'RE JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE TO CHAT WITH YOU ALL AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON IF YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD...

CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH IN THIS WAY.

YOU TOUCHED ON, BASED ON THREE THINGS, WHICH BRINGS ME TO STAFF.

PRESTON, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED WITH THEM THE LIFT STATION NEEDED? CHASE, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL TRAILS THAT COULD HAPPEN THERE? AND THEN I AM NOW DRAWING A BLANK.

I AM SO SORRY FOR DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE THOROUGHFARE, ORDINANCES HAVE ESCROW RULES IN WHICH THE MONEY PUT FOR THOROUGHFARE ROADS AND THEN PUT INTO THE ESCROW, THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY THEM BACK OUT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

SO THAT HITS ALL THREE OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS.

WHAT ALL CONVERSATIONS HAVE HAPPENED WITH YOU?

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AND I WILL MAKE COMMENT BEFORE YOU SPEAK, MR. PRESTON, THAT A LOT OF THIS.

WE PROBABLY, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE ANSWERS TO A LOT OF THIS.

I KNOW CHASE HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT INTO THAT.

I THINK HE WAS IN ONE MEETING, BUT THE PREVIOUS MANAGEMENT WOULDN'T WORK WITH THIS DEVELOPER TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF DONE.

THIS IS WHY IT KIND OF CAME IN THIS WAY.

SO I KNOW THAT IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, THESE CONVERSATIONS WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN AS FAR AS ORDINANCES.

BUT I THINK YOU GUYS ALREADY REVIEWED ALL THE CITY ORDINANCES, AND YOU GUYS ARE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL.

BUT PRESTON, I GUESS YOU CAN ANSWER HER QUESTION.

WELL, SO THEN I GUESS MY QUESTION NOW IS THEN, I UNDERSTAND PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP PROBLEMS, BUT WE HAVE THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP.

ARE YOU SAYING THEN THAT OUR STAFF HERE WHOSE DEPARTMENTS ARE IMPACTED BY THIS WERE NOT INFORMED OR BRIEFED OR ANYTHING ABOUT, LIKE, THIS CONVERSATION PRIOR TO COMING IN HERE TODAY TO HAVE ANY ABILITY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? IN REGARDS TO THE CITY SIDE OF THINGS? NO.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD GET IT TO STAFF IF MANAGEMENT WOULD NOT SPEAK ON IT.

SO THIS IS KIND OF WHY IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, WE CAN GIVE THAT DIRECTION NEXT TIME.

SO CHIEF WATERS WASN'T LETTING IT BE SHARED TO THEM? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WE DID HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH CHASE TO MAKE SURE, LIKE, THESE KIND OF HIT.

SOME OF THE TARGETS OF WHAT AMENITIES WE'D LIKE TO SEE FOR PRINCETON PARKS.

WE MET WITH SHAI TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

I DON'T THINK WE MET WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME.

THERE WASN'T AN ENGINEER ON STAFF YET.

SO WE HAVE HAD A FEW OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

BUT PRIMARILY WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON WHAT CAN WE DO ON SITE? WHAT THOSE DEMANDS LOOK LIKE SO THEN WE CAN SHARE ALL THAT DATA AND MAKE SURE THAT THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO HAVE CAPACITY BUT WITH UNTIL WE KNOW KIND OF FOR SURE THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO WITH THE ON-SITE IMPROVEMENTS IT IMPACTS WHAT OUR YOU KNOW IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE SORRY AND IT'S OKAY IF YOUR ANSWER IS I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF THIS IT'S TOTALLY FINE THAT'S AN HONEST ANSWER NO, THAT'S FINE.

SO THERE ARE PLANS TO EVENTUALLY IN THAT AREA DEVELOP REGIONAL LIFT STATIONS, ETC.

THE EXACT LOCATION OF THOSE HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED BECAUSE OF ALL THE TALKS WITH THE SHORELINE AND THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE WANTING TO GO IN.

ALL THESE AREAS HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT, AND THEY ARE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE UPCOMING WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN.

IT'S JUST THE EXACT LOCATIONS OF THESE FACILITIES HAVE NOT BEEN DETERMINED.

I WILL SPEAK FROM A...

PARKSIDE AND SOME DIRECT CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

THERE ARE MANY LIMITATIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH CORPS LAND.

THEY DO OWN THE LAKE.

WHAT YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS LAKE LAVON WILL BE 14 TO 17 FOOT LOW UP TO 14 TO 17 FOOT HIGH.

IT IS FLOOD MANAGEMENT.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT CONVERSATIONS OR DESIGNS HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS DIRECTLY.

BUT WHAT I WILL NOTE IS TRAIL SYSTEMS, SOME OF THE PLANNING, GLAMPING, THOSE ARE GREAT RECREATION ACTIVITIES.

RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR PRINCETON.

AT SOME POINT IT WILL BE WHETHER IT'S A LONG-TERM MASTER PLAN OR A DEVELOPER PARTNERING WITH THE CITY FOR SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS IT I'M NOT SAYING THAT I MEAN THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I'VE REALLY SEEN A PREVIEW OF ANY TYPE OF PLAN ASSOCIATED.

THERE ARE THERE ARE ALWAYS HURDLES.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WILL AND WON'T ALLOW, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THAT AREA OF THE LAKE IS HEAVILY WOODED AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE LAKE NEAR THE DAM THAT AN OPEN MARINA IS OR IS NOT AN OPTION.

ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S JUST BEING TRANSPARENT.

THAT'S DRIVING ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

YOU LOOK OUT TO THE RIGHT, AND ALL YOU SEE IS TREES.

SO IN THAT LAND, THE WATER DOES.

RECEDE DOWN TO BASE LEVEL CREEK AND IT DOES RISE TO BRIDGE LEVEL.

SO, BUT I MEAN, OVERALL LOOKING AT THE PLAN, YES, THERE WILL BE A TIME WHERE THE CITY LOOKS AT REVITALIZING THESE AREAS AND LONG-TERM AGREEMENT WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

WE HAVE SPOKE ON THE THREE

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PROPERTIES, TIKI CREEK PARK, CLEAR LAKE PARK.

AND TWIN GROVES PARK.

BUT SPEAKING WITH THE CORPS, THOSE ARE LONG-TERM LEASE AGREEMENTS AS WELL, AS IN 25 TO 50-YEAR, THE MINIMUM, AND MASTER PLANS FOR THOSE.

SO THAT'S ALL I CAN SPEAK ON AS FAR AS THE WORK.

I'LL SAY ONE THING, THAT THE CORPS HAS...

SEEN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU AS WELL.

AND THE FEEDBACK, ONCE AGAIN, NOBODY'S PROMISED ANYTHING.

THE COURT HASN'T PROMISED APPROVAL OF ANYTHING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT CAN'T BE DONE OR HASN'T ALREADY BEEN DONE ON COURT LAND IN SOME OTHER CITY.

SO EVERYTHING HERE IS SOMETHING THAT THE COURT HAS DEALT WITH BEFORE.

AND WHEN WE DID HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE COURT AND THEY SEEN THE PLANS AND THE CONCEPT, THEY HAD NO YOU NOTHING, NO FEEDBACK AS FAR AS THIS CAN'T BE DONE.

SORRY, PARKER, IT TOOK LIKE DELAYED TO REMEMBER.

NO WORRIES.

AGAIN, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THAT DEVELOPMENT, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT CONVERSATION SHIZE HAS HAD, BUT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WOULD BE A PART OF THAT ONCE THEY ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

ONCE YOU DO HAVE THAT CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US AND GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS TO BRING STUFF LIKE PLATTS BLACK BACK TO THIS BODY.

AND FOR THE DEVELOPERS, YOU PROBABLY AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF THIS.

SO THE DIFFERENT ISDS AROUND HERE USED TO GO TO A PARK OR TO A CAMPSITE IN ANNA, AND THAT CLOSED DOWN.

SO HAVE YOU CONSIDERED HAVING IN THAT CAMPING AREA THOSE SAME KINDS OF TEAM-BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT OUR ISD COULD UTILIZE THAT FOR THE ANNUAL FIFTH-GRADE CAMPING AND POTENTIALLY OTHER CITIES? SO I WOULD TELL YOU THIS, THE ISD IS ALSO AWARE OF THIS PROJECT AND WE HAVE SPOKE ABOUT THAT AS WELL IN COLLIN COUNTY AS WELL.

BUT I'LL LET BLAKE KIND OF TAKE IT.

SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THIS AS WELL.

I'M REALLY GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

BOTH OF MY KIDS, I WAS PART OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT I TOOK BOTH OF THEM THERE FROM KINDERGARTEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE COLLIN ADVENTURE CAMP.

AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT EARLY ON.

WE FEEL THAT THERE'S A REALLY SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, TO GO AND WORK WITH THE ISD AND DO THE FIFTH GRADE CAMP.

I WAS ONE OF THE, I WAS THE DAD, LIKE, YOU KNOW, CABIN LEADER OF A BUNCH OF FIFTH GRADE BOYS.

IT WAS RAMBUNCTIOUS.

AND SO, YEAH, THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THIS COULD BECOME, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT PIECE AND OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

NOT GONNA LIE, IT'D BE REAL NICE TO HAVE IT CLOSE TO HOME, BECAUSE I ALWAYS GET SENT WITH THE BEHAVIORAL STUDENTS TO CAMP.

AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO, LIKE, SHOOT HOME AND SLEEP IN MY BED INSTEAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, SELFISH LITTLE POINT THERE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT HERE.

AWESOME.

OKAY, SO JUST TO COVER, I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS.

WE KIND OF TALKED ON THIS, AND THIS WAS LEE'S OLD SLIDE HERE.

SORRY, LEE.

BUT I SAW THIS THUNDER.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE STUDIES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS JUST AN INTRO.

WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU ALL TO VOTE OR APPROVE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

IT'S JUST SIMPLY HERE'S WHAT SOME OF THE CONCEPTS ARE.

MULTIPLE STUDIES ARE NEEDED.

ARMY CORPS PIECE IS NEEDED.

THERE'S TWO PARALLELS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE PRIVATE LAND, YOU'VE GOT THE...

THE CORE LAND, THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND ALL THOSE MEETINGS CAN HAPPEN SIMULTANEOUS ALONG THE WAY.

AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO T.

WILSON FOR A SECOND BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT, A MINUTE OR TWO ABOUT SOME OF THEIR EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE TEAM AND I THINK THEY BRING A LOT.

IN FACT, I BELIEVE THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES IN VARIOUS COUNTIES TONIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THEM TO SPEAK.

UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS, WE'LL PROBABLY CLOSE THE PRESENTATION OUT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, DWAYNE BRIGNAC WITH T.

WILSON.

I'M EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT, EXCITED WHEN BLAKE REACHED OUT TO US.

I THINK WE CAN BE OF A LOT OF VALUE TO THIS PROJECT.

WE HAVE MORE THAN 20 YEARS' EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC-PRIVATE FINANCING, SECURING OVER $2 BILLION IN BONDS TO FINANCE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

I THINK JUST AS IMPORTANT IS OUR TRACK RECORD HERE IN PRINCETON.

WE REPRESENTED MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS SINCE 2019 OVER ACROSS MULTIPLE PHASES SO WE WELL FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF YOUR PROFESSIONALS.

WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE PREMATURE AS FAR AS GIVING YOU ALL NUMBERS UNTIL WE GET THE LAND PLAN BUT JUST KNOW THAT OUR TEAM WERE IN THE BACKGROUND AND AS SOON AS WE HAD A LAND PLAN WE'LL COME FORTH TO YOU ALL WITH A FINANCING STRATEGY THAT'S HOPEFULLY A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY AND WORK ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVING WITH YOUR SUPPORT.

AND I'LL JUST, WHEN BLAKE ORIGINALLY APPROACHED ME

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WITH THIS PROJECT, WHAT I ASKED HIM TO DO IS PROVIDE TO COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC HOW DID THIS BENEFIT US, NOT JUST WITH AMENITIES, BUT HOW IT CAN FINANCIALLY BENEFIT THE CITY.

SO THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE IS WHERE HE CONTACTED T.

WILSON TO PROVIDE THOSE MODELS TO THE CITY.

SO WHEN THEY DO COME BACK WITH THIS PROJECT TO US, WE WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS.

FINANCIAL BENEFIT FROM THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND FROM YOU KNOW THE HOMES ON THIS ON THIS LAND AND HOW DOES IT BENEFIT THE CITY IN THE LONG IN THE LONG TERM AND I THINK THAT YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THEM I WANT TO SAY I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT EARLY MEETING WHEN BLAKE CAME AND INITIALLY PRESENTED THIS PROJECT AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSISTENCE I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TO COME ACROSS THIS PIECE OF LAND I KNOW THERE WERE SEVERAL BIDS AND SEVERAL PEOPLE GOING FORWARD BUT IT WAS YOUR VISION THAT YOU PRESENTED THAT ULTIMATELY LANDED TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS LAND AND BRING IT TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE DISCUSSING IT NOW FROM A RESIDENT STANDPOINT IT'S ALSO A COUNCIL MEMBER IS THAT WE ARE EXCITED FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF A LITTLE PIECE THAT YOU KNOW GIVES US THAT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO ENVISION IT ANYWHERE ELSE RIGHT BUT HERE IS A FOCAL PIECE OF THE OUR CITY, WHERE YOU COME IN OR YOU COME OUT RIGHT THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT IT.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE THIS TO CONTINUE.

I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION TO MOVE TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN START LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE METRICS AND WHAT THOSE AGREEMENTS ARE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP IN ANY WAY WE CAN TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.

IS THERE THE THOUGHT, OR MAYBE AS YOU GO FORWARD WITH PLANNING, THAT YOU INCLUDE PROVISIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW FUNDING OR PULL FUNDING FROM MAYBE CONGRESS APPROPRIATIONS FOR NASHVILLE PARKS OR JUST FROM THE STATE SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY THAT'S FUNDING OR THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT WE CAN PULL IN FUNDS THAT COMES FROM CONGRESS, BASICALLY? YES, SO THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT IN OUR SPECIALIST, T.

WILSON, AND OTHERS.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND, LIKE WAS SAID, FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS.

SO WE'RE WORKING DOWN ALL AVENUES.

WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO START WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY FIRST VERSUS, HEY, HERE'S THIS GREAT MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT WE FELT LIKE MEETING THE CRITERIA OF THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS FIRST.

LIKE WAS MENTIONED BY MS. TODD, THE ISD AND THE STUDENTS AND THINGS THAT ARE MISSING.

I MEAN, I COACH MY KIDS.

I'VE GOT AN EIGHTH GOING INTO NINTH GRADE, AND A LOT OF OUR KIDS THAT COME AND PLAY AT PSA IN PLANO, THEY'RE FROM PRINCETON.

IN FACT, I JUST HAD ONE KID, A REALLY GOOD BASKETBALL PLAYER, THAT MOVED OUT HERE, AND THERE'S NOT AS MUCH FOR THEM TO DO.

AND SO WE STARTED THERE.

WITH THAT SAID, ALL THE FUNDING MECHANISMS, I'M CONFIDENT IN OUR TEAM THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH WITH YOU ALL, COLLABORATING ON ALL THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AT OUR DISPOSAL AND AT THE CITY'S DISPOSAL.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY POINTS HERE.

SO FIRST, THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR TAKING THIS APPROACH.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT FIRST STEP, INTRODUCING THIS TO THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL.

SO I'M VERY GOOD ON THAT.

I THINK THE GREATEST VALUE INTO THE FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS LAKE.

EVER SINCE WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE ARMY CORPS GIVING IT UP, BECAUSE I ATTENDED THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS, THE GREATEST VALUE IS THE NATURE ACCESS.

IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK TO THOSE MEETINGS, TO THAT MEETING THAT HAPPENED RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM, IT WAS IN PERSON, SO THE ARMY CORPS PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE A VIDEO OF IT, BUT THEY DEFINITELY HAVE TRANSCRIPTS OF THAT MEETING.

THE BIGGEST OF CONCERN WAS LOSING ACCESS TO THE BODY OF WATER.

FOR THE FOR THE AVID FISHERMEN AND BOATERS SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO IF YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT MEETING AND LOOKED AT THE PUBLIC INPUT ABOUT THEIR DESIRE FOR THE LAKE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST US HERE IN THE CITY AND LIKE YOU REPRESENTED THE COLLIN COUNTY YEAH YOU KNOW EVEN OUTSIDE THE COUNTY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TO THIS PLACE SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY FOCUS ON NATURAL ACCESS I LIKE THE ISD PARTNERSHIP, THE CAMP.

ANYTHING THAT WE CAN INCLUDE, KIDS GETTING INTO NATURE AND THEN FAMILIES GETTING INTO NATURE, I CAN'T ENCOURAGE THAT ENOUGH.

WHEN I SEE THE AMOUNT OF SHORELINE THAT PRINCETON IS CONSIDERING INTO THIS FUTURE, I CAN'T HELP BUT LOOK AT

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FLOWER MOUND.

AND THE GYM THAT THEY HAVE, I MEAN, THAT'S A NORTH TEXAS GYM AND THAT'S THE NORTH SHORE PARK.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S SUCH A GREAT ASSET TO THIS ENTIRE REGION.

I TRAVEL DOWN THERE A FEW TIMES A YEAR JUST SPECIFICALLY TO GO TO THAT TRAIL BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A WONDERFUL TRAIL ALONG THAT BODY OF WATER.

SO PROTECT THAT NATURE AS BEST YOU CAN.

I LIKE THE MIXED USE, OBVIOUSLY.

THROW A GOLF COURSE IN THERE FOR THE GOLFERS, GREAT.

BUT DEFINITELY KEEP AS MUCH OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING ALL THESE THINGS.

I APPRECIATE SEEING A LOCAL COME FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN.

THAT'S, I THINK, THE MOST REASSURING THING I'VE HEARD FROM THIS ENTIRE PRESENTATION.

IS YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN IT BECAUSE YOU LIVE HERE AND YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO I CAN'T, THAT'S A GREAT VALUE IN MY OPINION, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT VALUE IN A LOT OF THE PEOPLE'S OPINION.

BECAUSE WHEN WE THINK OF DEVELOPERS, WE THINK OF STRANGERS COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND DOING WHAT THEY FEEL IS RIGHT FOR THEIR FINANCIAL POCKETBOOKS.

YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT FOR YOUR FINANCIAL POCKETBOOK.

BUT YOU ALSO LIVE HERE SO IT REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHAT PEOPLE THINK.

THIS IS WHAT WE ALL THINK WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE DISCUSSING HOW OUR CITY'S GROWING.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

MY LAST POINT WAS THE GRANTS.

I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE FINANCIAL GUIDANCE.

UTILIZE ALL FINANCIAL RESOURCES POSSIBLE TO LIMIT THE BURDEN ON THE CITY.

TO THE GREATEST EXTENT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING INTO FUTURE BONDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC AGREEMENT ON THAT.

SO IT'S GOT TO MAKE SENSE.

SO THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT, WE REALLY GOT TO DIAL THAT IN AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU CAN COME UP WITH, HAVE THOSE ANSWERED INTO THE FUTURE.

I KNOW YOU WILL.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP THAT LAKE AS ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE TO EVERYONE, WHETHER YOU'RE A BOATER, HIKER, CAMPER, THE BEST YOU CAN.

THANK YOU, MS. GRACE.

YOU WANT IT? OH, BLAKE.

NO, I JUST HAVE AN OVERALL COMMENT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

I MEAN, I, LIKE.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE CAMP AND EVERYTHING, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT THERE, I'M NOT ENTIRELY COMFORTABLE WITH HOW...

THIS ALL CAME BEFORE COUNCIL WITHOUT HAVING THE REAL INVOLVEMENT OF THE CITY STAFF AND EVERYTHING.

AND I KNOW PAST LEADERSHIP PUT SOME DIFFICULTIES THERE.

I JUST FEEL LIKE I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THAT, THAT I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RIGHT PROCESS ON SOME STUFF AND HAVE OUR STAFF INVOLVED A LITTLE BIT MORE.

[K7. 2026-153 Discussion and approval to begin the RFP process for the renovation and expansion of the Lois Nelson Public Library; and take appropriate action.]

ALL RIGHT, THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM K-7.

I'M GOING TO SKIP TO K-7 AS WELL.

ITEM K-7, 2026-153, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL TO BEGIN AN RFP PROCESS FOR THE RENOVATION AND EXPANSION OF THE LOIS NELSON PUBLIC LIBRARY AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

ALL RIGHT, AND BEFORE SHE DOES, SHE GIVES HER PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANT TO JUST DO A POINT OF CLARITY.

THIS IS REGARDING THE CURRENT LIBRARY, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROPOSED NEW LIBRARY FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

IT'S GOING TO BE AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING THE $1 MILLION IS BECAUSE THE $1 MILLION, WE FOUND OUT LAST MEETING THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY PULLED FROM THE BOND.

SO NOW WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CONCEPTS OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT MONEY.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT IS SEPARATE FROM THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND WITH THE LIBRARY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS GLENDA PUCKETT.

I AM THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR OF THE SMALL LIBRARY WITH A BIG HEART, AS YOU ALL RECEIVED A LITTLE SMALL TOKEN FROM US.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WHEN THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL BEFORE WAS WE WANTED

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TO HEAR WHAT STAFF WANTS.

SO I'M STAFF.

I'M REPRESENTING SOME OF OUR OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ARE HERE AS WELL.

BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS JUST REALLY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE ARE NOT WANTING THIS TO BE AN END-ALL BE-ALL.

WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE AND I REALLY...

I REALLY APPRECIATED WHAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT TO US A COUPLE MONTHS AGO BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A REALLY GREAT IDEA TO MERGE THE TWO AND REALLY GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH A GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNER AS WELL AS STILL HAVE THE LIBRARY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF JUST INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL, THE LIBRARY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE FIVE YEARS, SO.

WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE GROWN BY ABOUT 5,000 PATRONS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND OUR CIRCULATION IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS IS OVER 107,000 ITEMS HAVE CIRCULATED THROUGH OUR LIBRARY, THE SMALL LIBRARY WITH THE BIG HEARTS.

I KNOW PEOPLE PASS BY SOMETIMES.

YOU MIGHT NOT SEE THEM.

SEE THAT MANY CARS THERE, BUT A LOT GOES ON THERE.

AND WHEN I SEE THESE NUMBERS, IT IS JUST A TESTAMENT OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THIS CITY.

WE ARE GROWING AT A BREATHTAKING PACE.

I MEAN, WE CANNOT KEEP UP HERE AT THE LIBRARY.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING WE'RE, EVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE IS SEEING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE'RE SEEING AS WELL.

SO I JUST REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS BOND MONEY TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY SOMETHING BACK, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY FOR US.

THE CAPACITY IS ALREADY ONLY 75 IN THAT SPACE.

RENOVATING THIS SPACE IS STILL GOING TO KEEP IT AT 75.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES IF WE, SORRY, I DIDN'T EVEN USE MY LITTLE THING.

IF WE...

EXPAND THE OUTSIDE SPACE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THAT SPACE FOR OUR OUTDOOR STORY TIMES.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING THE COMMUNITY CENTER TO HAVE STORY TIMES AWAY FROM OUR LIBRARY, BUT AT LEAST WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THAT SPACE FOR OTHER THINGS.

OKAY, Y'ALL, YOU CAN TELL I DON'T, OKAY, THERE WE GO.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS JUST REALLY OPENING UP THE SPACE.

EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY GIVE US MORE CAPACITY, IT WILL GIVE US MORE SPACE TO HOUSE OUR BOOKS BECAUSE WE DO NEED MORE MATERIALS.

AS WE GROW, THE STATE REQUIRES US TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MATERIALS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, OPENING UP THE SPACE WILL ALLOW...

US TO GO UP AND REALLY USE THE SPACE WISELY INSTEAD OF HAVING EVERYTHING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLOOR, TAKING UP SPACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THIS SPACE.

WE NEED THE FLOOR SPACE, EVEN FOR INDOOR STORY TIME.

AND JUST MAKING IT MORE LIGHT AND BRIGHT AND MORE ATTRACTIVE AND JUST FEELS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

IT FEELS VERY DRAB AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, SAD TO SAY, SAD.

BUT THIS WILL MAKE ANYTHING THAT WE DO NOW WILL AT LEAST ENHANCE WHAT WE HAVE.

THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BE HAD SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE THIS BUILDING FOR FUTURE USE INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING SOMETHING WE WORK ON THIS BUILDING, WE RENOVATE IT, AND IT'S A GREAT SPACE FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS, WE CAN LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO USE IT FOR OTHER USES.

I KNOW THE MAYOR AND I HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EVEN POSSIBLY HAVING A DEDICATED SENIOR CENTER FOR THE RESIDENTS HERE IN PRINCETON BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE KEEP HEARING IS THAT THERE IS NO SPACE FOR THEM.

TO JUST HAVE THEIR ACTIVITIES AND THINGS.

SO WE COULD HAVE THIS REALLY NICE RENOVATED BUILDING, AND THIS IS ONLY CONCEPTUAL.

LET ME PREFACE THIS.

THIS IS ONLY CONCEPTUAL, BUT IF YOU SEE WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STILL USE THIS SPACE LATER ON FOR OTHER EVENTS OR MAYBE EVEN, LIKE I SAID, A DEDICATED SENIOR SPACE.

WE HAVE ON THIS CONCEPT, WE HAVE THE OUTDOOR SPACE THAT THEY'RE SHOWING HERE AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, PARTNER

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WITH OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND DO ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION, MAYBE EVEN WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY GROUPS TO DO COMMUNITY GARDEN, SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT PEOPLE, OUR RESIDENTS CAN COME IN AND TEND TO GARDENS AND HAVE THAT SPACE WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE THIS IS ALSO THEIR SPACE, NOT JUST OURS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS THEIR SPACE.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND ENGAGE NOT ONLY OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE.

ALSO, AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD, WE RECENTLY ACQUIRED THE SPACE BEHIND US WITH THE HELP OF FINANCE KELLY AND ALLISON BEFORE SHE LEFT.

SO THAT SPACE IS WHERE WE WOULD BE EXPANDING OUR OUTSIDE AREA AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SPACES FOR PLAY SPACE.

HAVE A SPACE POSSIBLY FOR EVENTS THAT WE COULD HAVE OR OUTDOOR EVENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND IT ALSO HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO EVEN DO THE DEMO.

WE'VE TALKED WITH CHIEF WATERS AND HE BROUGHT UP A SUGGESTION OF USING THE FDPD AND PUBLIC WORKS TO DO THE DEMO OF THAT BUILDING BEHIND US FOR TRAINING PURPOSES.

SO WE CAN KEEP THESE THINGS COST EFFECTIVE BY USING OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

HOWEVER THE PROBLEM IS OR THE QUESTION WILL BE HOW MUCH WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY LEAVE.

DO THIS WORK FOR WITHIN THE MILLION DOLLARS WHAT WE CAN GET FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS? BUT WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION UNTIL WE HAVE APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RFP AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE FORWARD AND JUST REALLY USE THAT SPACE FOR YEARS TO COME.

FOR OTHER PURPOSES OUTSIDE OF THE LIBRARY, BUT AT LEAST FOR NOW JUST GIVING OUR COMMUNITY RESIDENTS SOMETHING BACK AND SOMETHING THAT IS MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE.

I KNOW IT'S NOT THE PERFECT SOLUTION FOR NOW, BUT AT LEAST WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING IF POSSIBLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND START THE PROCESS OF LOOKING INTO BUILDING SOMETHING OR AT LEAST ADDING ON TO THIS AND EXPANDING AND RENOVATING THIS SPACE.

SO, I LOVE THE IDEA, HOWEVER, WITH $1 MILLION, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS WHEN WE HAVE, THAT WAS DONE AN INSPECTION OF A LIBRARY, A COMPLETE ROOF FAILURE, ACTIVE ROOF PONDING, CORRODING GAS LINES, BROKEN EXTERNAL SEWER LINES, AGED CRITICAL UTILITY.

FAILING EXTERIOR SALIENCE, THE FLUORESCENT GRID AND SWITCHES HAVE PROBLEMS. WHEN THE LIST GOES ON, THE AS-BUILT AND EVERYTHING SHOW THAT WE WERE IN 2012 PUTTING IN THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

HOWEVER, THE REPORT SHOWS THAT NO FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM WAS EVER PUT INTO THE LIBRARY.

BUT I CAN'T FIND A CHANGE ORDER TO SHOW THAT WE DIDN'T PAY FOR IT.

OR WHERE THE MONEY WENT AND THAT CHANGE.

YEAH, POINT OF ORDER.

BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE COSTS THAT ARE NOW GOING TO COME OUT OF THE MILLION DOLLARS, AND THE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IS VERY EXPENSIVE.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THE GENERAL FUND GOING TO COME IN? I MEAN, THE GENERAL FUND SHOULD HAVE PUT A NEW ROOF ON THERE A WHILE AGO, BUT WHAT MONEY IS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO ADDRESS...

THIS LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN GETTING TAKEN CARE OF OVER THE YEARS VERSUS THE MILLION DOLLARS.

AND AS COUNCIL, WE CAN DECIDE AT THAT POINT IN TIME IF WE WANT TO INVEST MORE INTO IT OR NOT.

WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT.

I THINK WE'RE TOO EARLY TO DETERMINE.

IF GENERAL FUND MONEY IS GOING TO BE GOING INTO THIS AND THAT'S NOT A PART OF THE TOPIC, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS ITEM.

THIS WAS DONE APRIL 1ST OF 2025.

WE'VE HAD IT FOR OVER A YEAR, KNOWING WHAT THE LIBRARY HAS NEEDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND, AND NOTHING WAS DONE.

THE CITY.

YEAH, I DIDN'T HAVE IT.

I ASKED FOR THIS TO BE GIVEN TO ALL OF COUNCIL, AND IT WAS NEVER DONE.

THAT'S FINE.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WE NEED TO, I THINK THAT WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS LATER, BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE NUMBERS NOW.

SO, WE CAN MOVE ON.

GOING TO SAY IT WOULD WE WON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THAT IF UNLESS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFP PROCESS RIGHT WE HAVE

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TO SEE WHERE WE STAND I THINK THAT THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO NEED TO DO THIS SEEING AS HOW THE MILLION CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON THIS CURRENT BUILDING WE KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT OUR LIBRARY THE FUTURE THE MAYOR BROUGHT FORTH A PROJECT A WHILE BACK AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT BUT THE LEAST WE COULD DO IS MAKE THIS BUILDING AS BEAUTIFUL AS WE CAN AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE USABLE.

THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE LIBRARY IS THAT IT SITS DOWNTOWN, AND I THINK THAT ONCE WE START MOVING ON SOMETHING DOWNTOWN AS A CITY, THAT THAT WILL SPARK OTHER INTEREST IN THAT AREA AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN BRYAN.

WASHINGTON.

AND I REALLY LIKE THE MODERN MINIMALIST LOOK.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD LOOK.

THE INVOLVEMENT OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO NOT HAVE A SPACE FOR MEETING.

THE POSSIBILITY OF A COMMUNITY GARDEN AND ALL THAT YOU INTRODUCE.

I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD WAY FORWARD.

THERE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT WE HAVE, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ME ENOUGH NOW, I AM A PROPONENT OF SPENDING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO BUILD A PROJECT, SO WE NEED TO LOOK FOR GRANTS.

AND I KNOW WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE'LL CROSS IT.

BUT THANK YOU.

MR. LONG? YEAH, I LOVE THE IDEAS.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, AND I FULLY SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH AN RFP.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE LEARN WHAT NEEDS TO ACTUALLY BE DONE TO THE BUILDING.

BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE REPORT.

IT'S TAUGHT I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT BUILDINGS NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE WHEN THEY GET REMODELED.

AND SO WE HAVE TO FULLY EXPECT THAT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT THE SKIN OF THE BUILDING AND DESIRE WHATEVER WE WANT.

BUT UNTIL WE DO THE RFP, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS NEEDED.

ON THE INTERNAL, THE WORKING COMPONENTS, THE LIFE SAFETY COMPONENTS OF THE BUILDING.

SO THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP TO MOVE INTO GETTING THIS LIBRARY RENOVATED AND MAKE IT A MORE USABLE SPACE.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF WHAT THE BUILDING CAN BECOME IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS WE BUILD HERE IN PRINCETON THAT WE THINK AS FAR FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AS WE CAN.

FOR BUILDING, REPURPOSING, FUTURE EXPANSION, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHT PROCESS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT PROPOSALS COME FORWARD ON WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS ITEM.

YEAH, AND I JUST WANT TO PAINT THE PICTURE HERE, RIGHT? THE BOND FOR THIS LIBRARY WAS SOLD, SO WE ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE LIBRARY.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE HISTORY AND ALL THE COMPONENTS ARE INVOLVED WITH THIS, BUT AS WE STAND RIGHT NOW ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, THERE ARE NO OTHER AVENUE TO GO BUT.

SPEND THE MONEY ON THIS LIBRARY BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SOLD THE BOND.

AND ALL THOSE THINGS IN THE LIST THAT WE RECEIVED WILL BE UNCOVERED ONCE THE GE GOES IN THERE AND TELLS US, HEY, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

AND AT THAT POINT, WE CAN DECIDE WHAT CONTINGENCIES OR GENERAL FUND OR MONEY NEEDS TO BE MOVING AROUND TO RESOLVE THOSE THINGS, AND WE CAN COME TO THAT POINT.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN LONG, COUNCILMAN GRAVES.

I SUPPORT THIS.

I LOVE THE IDEAS THAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD, MS. BUCKETT, AND I THINK IN THE INTERIM, UNTIL THE MAYOR GETS THAT OTHER PROJECT MOVING, THIS WILL BE A GOOD INTERIM UNTIL THAT TIME.

I AGREE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE THE MONEY.

WE HAVE TO SPEND IT.

I'M NOT SAYING NO TO THIS.

I'M SIMPLY SAYING THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'VE GOT TO STOP TREATING THE LIBRARY LIKE THE UGLY STEP SIBLINGS.

LIKE, Y'ALL NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND CLEARLY YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THESE YEARS.

CLEARLY THERE'S SOME GENERAL FUND STUFF THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE.

AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE RESIDENTS AND SAY THESE THINGS ARE NEEDING DONE AND THEY SHOULD BE COMING FROM HERE AND HERE.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS BE TRANSPARENT.

I THINK THAT WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR GOING OUT AND GETTING THE LIBRARY ANOTHER BUILDING, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

SO, YEAH, YOUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW TO GET THAT

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DONE.

I THINK THIS IS THE STEP TOWARD TAKING CARE OF THE LIBRARY.

NOBODY'S FORGETTING ABOUT THE LIBRARY.

ALL RIGHT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, AT THIS TIME I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

YOUR HONOR, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K-7.

I'LL MISS A LONG SECOND.

MOTION PASSES 5-0.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

AND, YES.

CHIEF GAMMONS, YOUR GUYS ARE HERE FOR WHICH ITEM? OKAY, WE CAN JUMP INTO K-8.

[K8. 2026-156 Consider and discuss staff's recommendation regarding Fire Station 4's operational and facility needs, and take appropriate action.]

ITEM K-8, 2026-156, CONSIDER AND DISCUSS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION REGARDING FIRE STATION FLOORS.

OPERATIONAL AND FACILITY NEEDS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO US TONIGHT.

TONIGHT I'M BRINGING FORTH FIRE STATION 4, CONDITIONING OF THAT STATION.

I'VE GOT THE THING HERE.

I'M SORRY.

SO WE WANT TO REVIEW THE...

CONDITIONED TO STATION 4 AND RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH STATION 4.

SOME BACKGROUND ON STATION 4.

THIS STATION WAS BUILT IN 1987 BY THE BRANCH VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SINCE THEN, THE ONLY REMODEL OR ANY KIND OF THING THAT'S BEEN DONE TO THIS STATION WAS DONE BEFORE WE ACQUIRED THAT STATION BY BRANCH FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY'RE A VOLUNTEER.

THEY'VE SPENT ABOUT $300,000 PUTTING AN INTERIOR LIVING AREA TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR THE GUYS TO SLEEP IN.

THEY DIDN'T TOUCH ANY OF THE EXTERIOR ROOF, ELECTRICAL, ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

ONCE THIS, WHEN THIS WAS BEING DONE, IT WAS DONE UNDER THE COUNTY.

IT WASN'T OWNED BY THE CITY OF PRINCETON YET, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT LAND.

SO ALL THE CODES AND EVERYTHING THAT IT WAS DONE UNDER WAS THE COUNTY.

IT WAS NOT DONE BY THE CITY OF PRINCETON.

THE STATION RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY STAFFED BY 24 HOURS A DAY, TWO PERSONNEL.

PRINCETON FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDS TO ALL TYPES OF ACCIDENTS, FIRE ACCIDENTS.

HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, EMERGENCY INCIDENTS, THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY UNDERFUNDING THE OPERATION STAFFING MAINTENANCE WHICH WE KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

RECENT DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ESD FUNDING FACILITY CONDITIONS AND LONG-TERM OPERATIONAL STABILITY JUST DOESN'T HAVE IT DOESN'T SUSTAIN US TO STAY OUT THERE IN THAT STATION TO BE ABLE TO FIX THAT STATION UP FOR OUR GUYS TO BE THERE.

WE'VE DONE A COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION ON THAT STATION.

MYSELF, PREVIOUS CHIEF STEVENS, ADMIN, OUR FIRE MARSHAL WENT OUT THERE.

WE DID A SAFETY WALK AT THAT FIRE STATION, NUMEROUS VIOLATIONS, NUMEROUS THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

STARTING FROM THE ROOF ALL THE WAY TO A STORM SHELTER THAT THIS STATION DOESN'T HAVE OR NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

MATT SQUIRE, THE CITY'S ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR WENT OUT AND DID A FULL INSPECTION ON THAT STATION.

WITH HIS INSPECTION ALONE, WITHOUT GETTING A FULL ESTIMATE, WE'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE FROM $200,000 TO $300,000 JUST TO REPLACE THE ELECTRICAL.

IN THAT STATION THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

A NUMBER OF SAFETY ISSUES WERE FOUND WITH OVERLOADED CIRCUIT BREAKERS, OVERLOADED...

JUST LIGHT FIXTURES NOT BEING RIGHT, ANYTHING THAT'S SHOCK HAZARD AND FIRE HAZARDS.

WITH THE STUFF REMODELED, WITH THE ROOF NEEDING TO BE REDONE, COMMERCIAL SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WORKING OFF A RESIDENTIAL SEPTIC SYSTEM, WHICH ABOUT EVERY TWO TO THREE MONTHS WE HAVE TO HAVE A SEPTIC COMPANY COME OUT AND DO AN EMERGENCY PUMPING BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PIPING'S RAN.

THINGS AROUND.

THE, LIKE I SAID, THE ROOF.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A VESTIBULE IN BETWEEN THE BAY AND THE LIVING AREA FOR IT TO ACTUALLY BE APPROVED BY THE NFPA.

THOSE REPAIRS BY THEMSELVES AVERAGE ARE COME OUT TO ABOUT $400,000.

SO WITH THE ELECTRICAL AND WITH OTHER REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO THIS STATION TO BRING IT UP TO CODE TO WHERE IT'S LIVABLE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FIRE GUYS TO BE THERE IS ALMOST $1 MILLION.

SO WE COME TO YOU ALL TODAY TO ASK DIRECTION ON.

WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE US TO DO.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PULL THE GUYS OUT OF THAT STATION, MOVE THEM TO STATION THREE.

THEY WOULD RESPOND FROM STATION THREE TO ALL THE STATION DISTRICT FORCE CALLS.

OUR RESPONSE TIMES WOULD GO UP FROM FOUR TO FIVE MINUTES TO ANYWHERE FROM EIGHT TO TEN MINUTES.

BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE VOLUNTEER SIDE TO GET A VOLUNTEER FIRE IF IT WAS STILL A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT TAKES ALMOST 10 MINUTES FOR A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER TO GET FROM THEIR HOUSE JUST TO THE FIRE STATION TO GET THE APPARATUS TO RESPOND TO THE CALL.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15 MINUTES TO GET A VOLUNTEER OUT THERE.

SO AS IT CURRENTLY SITS NOW, IT'S UNSAFE FOR OUR PERSONNEL

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TO BE IN THAT BUILDING THE WAY THAT IT IS NOW? IT IS A, THERE ARE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.

THERE ARE NOT IMMEDIATE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES, BUT THERE ARE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.

AND WITH US CURRENTLY KNOWING THESE ISSUES NOW, WE NOW HOLD THE LIABILITY IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN WITH THE GUYS BEING THERE.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS WITH, AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH, THE COUNTY ON FUNDING FIRE SERVICES IN THE ETJ.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO TAKE ON, OR IS IT TOO EARLY FOR THIS DISCUSSION? THIS IS SOMETHING THE COUNTY IS NOT WILLING TO TAKE ON.

SO THIS BECOMES PRINCETON'S RESPONSIBILITY AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE ETJ? YES.

THAT PIECE OF LAND IN THAT FIRE STATION IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF PRINCETON.

IT'S NOT IN THE COUNTY ETJ OR THE COUNTY UNINCORPORATED AREA.

AND NOT EVEN CONSIDERATION OF SERVICING THE ETJ THAT THE COUNTY IS DECIDING TO EVEN? NO.

ARE THERE ANY STATE FUNDING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAP INTO TO SUBSIDIZE THIS RENOVATION? NO.

NO NATIONAL FUNDING EITHER? NO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE FISH FRIES AND CHICKEN DINNERS? FISH FRIES, CHICKEN DINNERS, AND PANCAKES.

OH, MY.

MAXINE, WE NEED ARCADIA FARMS HOA SPACE.

RIGHT.

WOW.

JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, TOO, SOMETHING ELSE I WANT TO BRING UP.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK IN THE PAST ABOUT DID PRINCETON TAKE OVER, ACQUIRE? THIS WAS WHEN THIS TOOK PLACE.

THE FIRE CHIEF FROM THE BAIRNS FIRE DEPARTMENT CAME TO US AND ASKED US IF WE WOULD DO THIS.

THEY WERE GIVING IT UP.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTED TO RUN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS ABLE TO RUN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO HAD WE NOT AGREED TO THAT, IT WOULD HAVE CLOSED DOWN AT THAT POINT? IT WOULD HAVE CLOSED DOWN, THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TAKEN IT OVER, AND WE WOULD HAVE ENDED UP TAKING, NOT TAKING OVER, BUT WE WOULD HAVE ENDED UP RUNNING THAT COUNTY AREA ANYWAYS.

SO IT WAS AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT WAS A WIN-WIN FOR US TO HELP OUT A PARTNER TO START RUNNING THAT AREA.

KEVIN, I'M KIND OF HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND THIS.

AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS PROBABLY GETTING INJURED, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE CITY FUNDING THIS PROJECT, HOW DO WE...

PROCEED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS? WELL, I CAN ANSWER, KEVIN.

YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO, BUT I'LL JUST SAY, I MEAN, THIS IS A TOTAL POLICY CALL OF THE COUNCIL.

YEAH, IT'S, I MEAN, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS WHAT WE NEED TO GO WITH.

I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUS BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT'S PRESENTED.

IT'S NOT SAFE FOR OUR GUYS TO BE IN THERE, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE KNOW ABOUT IT.

THIS IS GOING TO HELP RIGHT-SIZE OUR STAFF IN A LITTLE BIT IN THE OTHER STATIONS.

AND SO I THINK OUR CALL IS TO CLOSE THE STATION.

YEAH, AND I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

SO WE'VE HAD A FEW MEETINGS WITH COUNTY, WITH THE ESD, EVEN WITH SOME OF THE MUDS ABOUT STATION 4 AND THE CONDITION.

AND I THINK WE'VE ALL KIND OF CAME TO THAT SAME REALIZATION OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH STATION 4.

AND JUST SOME OTHER INFORMATION AS WELL WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THIS IS THAT PART OF OUR BUDGET IS RELYING ON MUD CONTRACTS AND FUNDS FROM...

THE COUNTY BUT WE JUST HAD A MUD UM BASICALLY UH TERMINATE THEIR CONTRACT WHICH LEAVES US WITH A DEFICIT OF 1.4 MILLION SO WITH THAT AND THEN THE ADDED COST OF 400 000 WITH AND THEN WITH THE ESD STILL NOT UM SETTING THEIR TAX RATE AND EVEN AT THEIR MAX TAX RATE UM IT STILL WOULDN'T EVEN COVER THE COST WHERE WITH THE MUD CANCELLING THE CONTRACT AND EVEN WITH THE POTENTIAL 500,000 OR SO THAT YOU SEE IS WILLING TO GET WE'RE STILL UNDER 900,000 SO AND THEN TO SPEND ANOTHER 400,000 RIGHT NOW I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS HOW DOES THESE IMPACTS FROM COUNTY AFFECT US OUR BUDGET AND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A DIFFICULT TIME RIGHT NOW TRYING TO KEEP STAFF WITH THE MUD CANCELING AND EVERYBODY AND I'LL BE HONEST I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THINKS WE HAVE TO SERVE AND UM IN THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY CANCEL THAT CONTRACT OR NOT, WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND ANYWAY.

AND I THINK THAT THIS IS ME PERSONALLY, AND THIS ISN'T THE VIEW OF COUNCIL OR ANYBODY ELSE, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO STRONG-ARM US INTO STILL PROVIDING SERVICES FOR CHEAPER THAT COST THE TAXPAYERS.

WE'VE BEEN ALREADY SUBSIDIZING THEIR SERVICE SINCE 2012 OR SO.

AND THIS ACTUALLY PUTS US EVEN FURTHER INTO THAT CONTINUING THIS,

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WHICH THAT'S NOT THE CONVERSATION TOPIC RIGHT NOW.

THIS JUST RELATES TO IT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE COUNCIL A MIND WHEN THEY MAKE A VOTE TONIGHT THAT WHAT'S GOING ON IS WE'RE TRYING TO RENEGOTIATE THAT MUD CONTRACT BECAUSE THAT IS A MAJOR HIT TO OUR BUDGET, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE WERE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH FIRE SERVICES, WITH POLICE SERVICES, TO FUND OUR OWN STAFF, AND THEN WITH A MAJOR HIT FROM COUNTY WITH MUD 10 BACKING OUT THE CONTRACT, WE LOSE $1.4 MILLION.

SO EVEN US TRYING TO FRONT THE $400,000 TO REMODEL THIS, WE'RE STILL NEGATIVE $900,000 FOR THE YEAR.

IF WE CAN'T RENEGOTIATE THAT CONTRACT? THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SINCE 2012, ESJ, THEY'VE DEPENDED ON US TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THEM AND TO TAKE THIS AWAY.

IT WOULD APPEAR AS IF PRINCETON IS PLAYING HARDBALL, BUT WE'RE NOT.

WE ACTUALLY WANT TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE.

WE ACTUALLY WANT TO BE THERE, BUT IT'S PLACING A FINANCIAL STRAIN THAT WE...

ARE UNABLE TO SHOULDER RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER RESPONSE TIME.

AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO GET THE SAME SERVICE THEY WERE GETTING.

THAT IS SO GOOD TO HEAR.

SO IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY TO THINK THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SERVICE THE COUNTY.

YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET THE SERVICE.

THERE'S NOT ANOTHER FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OR IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS A STATION IN THE COUNTY THAT RUN THE COUNTY CALLS.

ALL THE OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN COLLIN COUNTY RUN THEIR COUNTY CALLS FROM A CITY FIRE STATION.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN FARMERSVILLE, NEVADA, JOSEPHINE, ANY OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING.

IT'S JUST THAT STATION WAS ALWAYS THERE, BUT IT WAS UNDER, YOU KNOW, BRANCH VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

BUT THEY DISBANDED.

WE TOOK OVER THE AREA, AND WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING THAT AREA.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP RESPONDING.

IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET THERE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SAME QUALITY OF SERVICES THAT WE'VE ALWAYS GIVEN THEM.

SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM AND KNOW WHEN TO FOLD THEM IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, AND I HATE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE LIKE I WAS TALKING TO MY GUYS, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN HERE 21 YEARS.

I'VE SERVICED THE COUNTY FOR 21 YEARS, AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT SINCE, YOU KNOW, CHIEF HAMMONDS COMES, HE'S, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF NOW, AND HE'S WANTING TO PULL OUT OF THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M DOING.

I'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF MY GUYS AND I'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY OF PRINCETON IS TAKEN CARE OF.

THAT'S MY FIRST PRIORITY.

AND THEN WE LOOK AT ALL THE EXTRA STUFF THAT WE CAN DO.

AND I GUESS FOR THE...

SO I AGREE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES.

I MEAN, I DO THIS FOR A LIVING.

MY FIRST GOAL OF MY DAY IS TAKING CARE OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF EMPLOYEES.

ABSOLUTELY.

KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW NOW ABOUT THIS STATION AND ITS CONDITION, TAKE CARE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE RELOCATION.

IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERY PENNY WE PUT INTO THIS BUILDING IS A SUNK COST, AND WE SHOULD JUST PLAN FOR A NEW ONE.

DON'T PUT ANY MORE MONEY INTO THIS BUILDING BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT WOULD MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL TO CONTINUE TO SINK MORE MONEY INTO IT.

SO WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT EVERY PENNY WE SPEND IS A SUNK COST AND THEN PLAN FOR A NEW GROUND-UP.

FACILITY DOWN THAT WAY IN THE FUTURE, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE CAN AFFORD IT.

BUT I DEFINITELY AGREE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR FIRE PERSONNEL AND PUT THEM IN A SAFER BUILDING.

YEAH, AND JUST SO THIS OTHER OUT THERE, WHAT MY VISION IS IS TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE MUDS AND THE ESD TO SEE IF EVERYBODY CAN PITCH IN TO FUND STATION 4 BECAUSE TO ASK THE TAXPAYERS TO BUILD AND...

$15 MILLION STATION WHEN WE NEED ANOTHER STATION IN CITY LIMITS UP NORTH BECAUSE UP NORTH IS THEY'RE COMING FROM DEEP AND DEEP DOWN DOWNTOWN TOO SO WE NEED TO BUILD A NEW STATION UP NORTH SO WE'RE BASICALLY TELLING THE RESIDENTS UP NORTH THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SERVICE YOU WE'RE NOT SERVICE YOU BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PITCH SOMETHING CLOSER TO YOU BUT BECAUSE WE'RE FUNDING MONEY TO THE UH COUNTY BUT UM I JUST WANTED TO TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT GO AHEAD UM I AGREE MOVING THEM OUT OF THERE LIKE PRIORITY.

YES MA'AM.

WHAT ARE WE DOING AT STATION THREE TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE ACCOMMODATED THERE? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE THE OVERNIGHT SHIFTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

ARE WE BRINGING IN COTS? WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE AT STATION THREE TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN MORE STAFF? THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE WHILE THEY'RE THERE.

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WE'VE GOT THE BEDROOMS FOR ALL.

EVERY FIREFIGHTER WILL HAVE THEIR OWN BEDROOM PLUS THE EMS CREW WILL HAVE THEIR OWN BEDROOM.

THAT STATION IS ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY...

DONE OUR PRE-PLAN ON HOW THIS WOULD WORK AND STATION THREE HAS THE SPACE FOR THAT FOR ALL OF THEM TO BE THERE.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IN ARMY COPS OR ANYTHING FOR LIKE THAT FOR THEM.

I MEAN WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THEM TO BE AT THREE.

GREAT.

THEN WE HAVE A RESPONSE I'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON THE RESPONSE PLAN FOR THAT AND CHIEF CARROLL IS OVER OUR DISPATCHING AND HE'LL GET WITH DISPATCH WHENEVER WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION WITH DISPATCH TO SETTLE THAT TO SET THAT UP.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

THE MOTION WILL BE TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS.

I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM K-8. I'LL SECOND.

[K9. 2026-155 Consider authorizing the Princeton Fire Department to submit an application for the 2026 Firehouse Subs Public Safety Foundation Grant and take appropriate action.]

MR. WASHINGTON SECOND.

MOTION PASSES 5-0.

THIS WILL TAKE IT TO K-9.

MS. FELLER.

ITEM K-9, 2026-155.

CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE PRINCETON FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR THE 2026 FIREHOUSE SUBS PUBLIC SAFETY FOUNDATION GRANT AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, STEVE GAMMONS, FIRE CHIEF, PRINCETON FIRE DEPARTMENT.

TONIGHT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOU THE FIREHOUSE SUB PUBLIC SAFETY GRANT.

THIS IS A VERY POPULAR GRANT.

THAT'S BEEN OUT FOR A LONG TIME THAT FIREHOUSE SUBS PROVIDES TO ALL OF THEIR FIRST RESPONDERS.

IF ANY OF YOU ALL GO TO FIREHOUSE SUBS AND EAT AND THEY ALWAYS SAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO ROUND UP, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE ROUNDING UP FOR.

THIS IS THE FIREHOUSE SUBS GRANT THAT THEY, IT'S UP TO $40,000. IT'S A 100% MATCH GRANT SO THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY OF THIS GRANT.

WE HAVE NOT FILED THIS GRANT YET.

WE ARE COMING TO YOU TODAY TO GET THE APPROVAL TO FILE THE GRANT.

SO WE HAVEN'T OBTAINED THIS GRANT.

WE JUST WANT TO GET Y'ALL'S APPROVAL BEFORE WE GO FORTH TO SUBMIT THE GRANT.

BUT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

SO WE'RE REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR A FIREHOUSE SUB PUBLIC SAFETY GRANT TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL RESCUE ROPE RESCUE EQUIPMENT.

THE PRINCETON FIRE RESPOND, WE RESPOND TO A VARIETY OF INCIDENTS WHICH ROPE RESCUE EQUIPMENT MAY BE REQUIRED.

WITH THE WAY THE CITY IS GROWING, WITH THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S COMING IN, WITH PUMP STATIONS, LARGER BUILDINGS, TWO, THREE STOREY BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OF A MINDSET OF TECHNICAL RESCUE WITH TRENCH RESCUES.

SPACE RESCUES AND ANY KIND OF HIGH.

OUR CURRENT ROPE RESCUE EQUIPMENT IS LIMITED AND IT DOES NOT PROVIDE THE SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES FOR MULTIPLE OR COMPLEX RESCUE OPERATIONS.

WE CAN DO SIMPLE RESCUES.

WE CAN TIE SIMPLE KNOTS.

WE CAN DO SIMPLE RIGGINGS WITH OUR TRUCK, TAKE SOMEBODY OFF A ROOF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AS FAR AS THE MORE COMPLEX RESCUES, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE GUYS LIKE LIEUTENANT PULSE WHO IS CERTIFIED IN HIGH ANGLE LOW ANGLE RESCUE THAT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB TRAINING MOST OF OUR GUYS WITH THIS.

CAPTAIN SOLANO AND CAPTAIN CALVERT THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT THEY'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB TOO IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE TRAININGS FOR THESE GUYS AND GET THEM THEIR RESCUE CERTIFICATIONS.

IT'S ACTUALLY A NEW CERTIFICATION THAT TCFP JUST BROUGHT OUT THAT'S THE GOVERNING AGENCY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND I THINK MAYBE EIGHT OF OUR GUYS ACTUALLY HAD THAT CERTIFICATION WHICH IS...

KIND OF A HARD CERTIFICATION TO GET, IT'S HARD TEST TO GET, AND IT'S A HARD PROCESS TO OBTAIN.

BUT THE LACK OF THESE CURRENT RESCUE EQUIPMENT HAS RESULTED IN DELAYS IN TECHNICAL RESCUES.

I'LL GO TO TWO OF THEM PARTICULARLY.

WHEN SOUTHERN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, OR MIDDLE SCHOOL, WAS BEING BUILT, WE HAD A GENTLEMAN THAT FELL DOWN A 60-FOOT PIER HOLE, 36 INCHES WIDE.

HE FELL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM.

WE HAD TO WAIT FOR FRISCO FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COME AND DO THE RESCUE.

THE GUY ENDED UP LIVING.

OUR GUYS WERE ONLY ABLE TO DO...

THAT.

BASIC OPERATION, PUT A COUPLE OF PIECES OF WOOD ON THE GROUND TO KEEP THE GROUND STABLE.

BUT THAT GUY HAD TO WAIT ON THE GROUND BEFORE MCKINNEY AND FRISCO FIRE DEPARTMENT GOT THERE AND WAS ABLE TO DO THE RESCUE.

SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT WE'RE ASKING FOR WILL ENABLE US TO DO THOSE KIND OF RESCUES.

SECOND ONE, THEY WERE DIGGING UNDERNEATH.

IT'S FUNNY, ALL THESE HAVE TO DO WITH SCHOOLS.

THEY WERE DIGGING UNDER, CLARK, THEY WERE DIGGING UNDER CLARK.

NOBODY KNEW THEY WERE DOING IT.

WE WEREN'T TOLD THEY WERE DOING DIGGING UNDERGROUND, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEY WERE ACTUALLY TUMBLING UNDERNEATH THE SCHOOL.

THEY HAD TO COLLAPSE.

THE WALLS COLLAPSED IN.

ONCE AGAIN, WE HAD TO WAIT FOR FRISCO AND ALLEN FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN TO ASSIST WITH THOSE RESCUES.

WHEN WE SAY TECHNICAL RESCUES, THEY'RE VERY TECHNICAL.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO SHORE THE WALLS AND MAKE SURE DIRT DOESN'T COME SLOUGHING OFF.

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MR. LONG, I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND WITH CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS IN FRONT OF THE WALMART WHEN THEY WERE DOING ALL THE RE-MOVING ALL THE POWER LINES AND ALL THE UNDERGROUND GAS LINES.

WE HAD GUYS DIGGING WITHOUT THEIR SHORING.

TWO GUYS WERE TRAPPED.

LUCKILY WE HAD TWO GUYS THAT GOT DOWN THERE WITH A LADDER AND PULLED THEM OUT, OUR GUYS, BEFORE IF NOT WE'D HAD TO WAIT FOR ALLEN TO COME WITH THEIR SHORING STUFF.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR DEPARTMENT MORE ADVANCED READY FOR THESE TYPES OF RESCUES SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.

15, 20, 30 MINUTES FOR MUTUAL AID DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AND DO THE WORK THAT WE CAN DO.

SO CURRENTLY WE MAINTAIN BASIC ROPE RESCUE EQUIPMENT, AND IT'S ONLY ASSIGNED TO TRUCK 3.

SO IF TRUCK 3 IS OUT ON A CALL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT STUFF ON ANY OF OUR OTHER TRUCKS.

QUINT 2 HAS TWO BAGS OF ROPE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE OTHER EQUIPMENT.

WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO BE ABLE TO DO IS BE ABLE TO PUT SOME OF THE BASIC STUFF ON QUINT 2 TO WHERE THEY CAN START THE RESCUE AND THEN TRUCK 3 CAN GET THERE AND COMPLETE THE RESCUE WITH ALL THE ADVANCED STUFF THAT WE HAVE.

THE DEPARTMENT IS TRAINED PERSONNEL CAPABLE OF UTILIZING THE ADVANCED ROPE RESCUE HOWEVER EQUIPMENT IS NOT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

SO IN CONCLUSION THE REQUEST FOR ROPE RESCUE EQUIPMENT WILL ENHANCE THE PRINCETON FIRE DEPARTMENT'S TECHNICAL RESCUE CAPABILITIES TO IMPROVE FIRE SAFETY.

WE'RE WANTING TO BE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, KIND OF LIKE PD.

PD DEVELOPED THEIR SWAT TEAM.

THEY'VE GOT THEIR SWAT TEAM A LOT BETTER, MORE EQUIPPED, WITH MORE FUNCTIONS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH OUR TECHNICAL RESCUE TEAM.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE HIGH-ANGLE RESCUES, THE LOW-ANGLE RESCUES, TRENCH RESCUES, WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME IN.

LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE 21 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN IT WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHEN THEY HAD A BARRICADED SUBJECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY'D HAVE TO WAIT FOR COLLIN COUNTY OR SOME OTHER.

LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY TO COME IN.

NOW THEY CAN DO THE JOB THEMSELVES.

THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO BUILD OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S WHY I'M THE CHIEF OF THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO MAKE THIS DEPARTMENT GROW AND BE THE BEST DEPARTMENT THAT WE CAN BE FOR THE CITY.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING TODAY IS THE APPROVAL TO REQUEST US TO SUBMIT THIS GRANT TO FIREHOUSE SUBS FOR THE GRANT.

IT'S 100% MATCHED, SO THERE'S NO MONEY THAT COMES FROM THE CITY.

AND WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FINDING THIS GRANT, BECAUSE I WANT US TO BE THE BEST THAT WE CAN BE.

I WANT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WANT THE WHOLE CITY TO BE THE BEST THAT WE CAN BE.

AND SINCE MY TIME, I THINK THOSE INCIDENTS, IT WAS THREE OF THEM THAT HAPPENED JUST IN A YEAR.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE NEED THEM.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST ONE.

SO I THINK THAT THIS IS KIND OF A NO-BRAINER THAT WE NEED THIS.

WE WANT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL, WELL, WE ARE A PROFESSIONAL FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE MORE LIFE-SAVING.

MEASURES TO THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A RESIDENT IN THERE THAT COULD BE ANYBODY SO I THINK THAT LIKE I SAID THIS IS A NO-BRAINER THAT WE NEED THIS AS A CITY TO TAKE US TO THAT TO THAT NEXT LEVEL AS WELL AND I DO WANT YOU GUYS TO BE JUST AS AS BAD AS SWAT IS I WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED LIKE I SAID IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT UM WHEN CHIEF UH STEVEN WAS HERE WE SPOKE ABOUT UM SOME OTHER TECH AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO I I WANT US TO BE ALL OF THAT I WANT US JUST HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST THAT WE CAN.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR FINDING IT.

MY THING IS I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE.

I WANT TO DO IT.

YOU KNOW, I AGREE.

AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE NEVER GET IT DONE.

I NOW WANT TO GET IT DONE.

I WANT US TO BE, WHEN SOMEBODY NEEDS HELP, THEY CALL US.

THEY DON'T CALL MCKINNEY, THEY DON'T CALL FRISCO, THEY CALL PRINCETON TO COME DO THE JOB FOR THEM.

LIEUTENANT PULSE, BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS GRANT.

HE'S THE ONE THAT THE GRANT SHEET THAT WE SEND IN TO FIREHOUSE SUBS, HE'S THE ONE THAT BUILT ALL THAT, DID ALL THE DATA, ALL THE WORK.

HE HAD HELP FROM THE OTHER OFFICE.

HE WAS THE ONE THAT BUILT BARRETT. SHE DID A GREAT JOB ASSISTING WITH GETTING THIS STUFF DONE, TOO.

SO I WON'T TAKE THE CREDIT.

YEAH, THIS IS RIGHT UP MY WHEELHOUSE.

MR. LONG.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND BECOME TRAINED.

ALL THE EXCEPTIONAL WORK Y'ALL DO OUT THERE TAKING ON THESE CHALLENGES BECAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY THOSE CASES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'VE STUDIED ALL OF THOSE VERY CLOSELY.

CURRENTLY OVERSEEING TWO PROJECTS THAT HAVE ACTIVE TUNNEL WORK HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WHERE WE PLANNED NOT NEED Y'ALL TO RESCUE PEOPLE, RIGHT? BUT NOT EVERYBODY DOES.

RIGHT.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LOOKING TO GET TO BE THE BEST AT DOING THESE THINGS.

IT TAKES A LOT OF DILIGENCE.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALSO FINDING OPTIONS FOR FUNDING.

THAT'S JUST PUTTING A CHERRY ON TOP OF THE WHOLE SITUATION.

SO GREAT JOB TO YOU AND TO YOUR TEAMS. THANK YOU.

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I REALLY HOPE Y'ALL CAN...

WE GET THIS GRANT, RIGHT? YEAH, ME TOO.

BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PRACTICE OFTEN.

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.

NOT TIME GOES AWAY IF YOU DON'T PRACTICE IT.

BUT I'VE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED WORKING WITH A FIRE DEPARTMENT IN A DIFFERENT STATE THAT WAS CERTIFIED IN MANY OF THESE TYPES OF DANGEROUS RESCUE OPERATIONS, AND THE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT IS INCREDIBLE.

AND YOU CAN'T JUST GO TO HARBOR FREIGHT AND BUY ROPE.

IT'S VERY ENGINEERED EQUIPMENT THAT TAKES A LOT OF CERTIFICATIONS, TAKES A LOT OF STAMPS OF APPROVAL FROM VARIOUS LABORATORIES AND TESTING AGENCIES.

I MEAN, BECAUSE LIVES ARE LITERALLY HANGING BY THESE ROPES.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE COSTS ARE DEFINITELY SIGNIFICANT.

SO GOOD JOB FINDING THIS GRANT, AND I HOPE YOU ALL...

SUCCESSFUL WITH IT.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

AND I THINK THAT UH, AND I'M GO AFTER THE GRANT GET IT MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS, BUT I THINK REGARDLESS OF THE GRANT OR NOT I THINK THAT WE STILL NEED NEED TO YOU SO IF THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO BRING IT BRING IT BACK TO US AS WELL.

YES, SIR THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER.

YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K9 SECOND I'M NOT SURE WHO SECONDED THAT, BUT, OH, MR. JOHNSON SECONDED.

[K3. 2026-06-23-R02 Consider Resolution 2026-06-23-R02 to authorize contract negotiations and execution with CPS HR Consulting for executive recruitment; and take appropriate action.]

ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES.

THIS WILL TAKE US TO BACK IN ORDER TO K, I BELIEVE IT'S K3. ITEM K3, 2026-06-23-R02.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

CONSIDER RESOLUTION 2026-06-23-R02 TO AUTHORIZE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND EXECUTION WITH CPSHR CONSULTING FOR EXECUTIVE RECRUITMENT AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

THE REQUESTED RESOLUTION IS FOR AN EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM.

IT'S A HIGH COMMUNITY INTEREST INITIATIVE, SO A COMPETITIVE PROCESS WAS USED.

A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS WAS ISSUED.

IT WAS OPEN FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS.

IT WAS PUBLICLY ADVERTISED IN THE PRINCETON HERALD AND ALSO ONLINE PER STATE LEGISLATURE REQUIREMENT.

WHAT MAKES THIS DIFFERENT THAN OUR OTHER INITIATIVES IS THAT THE RESPONDENTS WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A GUARANTEE THAT ANY CANDIDATE PLACED AND HIRED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS POSITION WOULD REMAIN IN THE POSITION FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS.

AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE PLACE CANDIDATE VOLUNTARILY TERMINATES OR IS TERMINATED WITHIN THE GUARANTEE PERIOD, THE CITY OF PRINCETON WOULD BE ENTITLED TO A REPLACEMENT SEARCH AT NO ADDITIONAL COST.

IN ADDITION TO THIS GUARANTEE, SOME OF THE SERVICES WOULD INCLUDE, AND JUST HIGH LEVEL, REFINE THE CURRENT POSITION DESCRIPTIONS, QUALIFICATION, AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEY WOULD ALSO DEVELOP KEY COMPETENCIES FOR EVALUATING THE CANDIDATES.

THEY WOULD DEVELOP AND PLACE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THE POSITION ON OUR BEHALF.

THEY WOULD ACTIVELY RECRUIT INDIVIDUALS WHO MET OR EXCEEDED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

THEY WOULD DESIGN INTERVIEW QUESTIONS AND GET CANDIDATE ASSESSMENT FORMATS PRE-SCREENED, SO WE WOULD JUST GET THE BEST OF THE BEST.

AND THEY WOULD CONDUCT THE PRE-INTERVIEWS AND ALSO CONDUCT EFFECTIVE BACKGROUND AND REFERENCE CHECKS BEFORE WE EVEN GOT THAT LIST.

AMEN.

THEY WOULD ALSO COMMUNICATE WITH ALL THE CANDIDATES AND ASSIST WITH THE OFFER AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE SELECTED CANDIDATES ON BEHALF.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS JUST THE PRE-STEP TO SELECT A FIRM, NOT SELECTING THE CITY MANAGER CANDIDATES.

IT WOULD BE A SHORT LIST.

IT WOULD BRING THE CANDIDATES TO US, AND IT WOULD BE THE CITY COUNCIL THAT, OF COURSE, MAKES THAT SELECTION IN INTERVIEWS, ET CETERA.

THE PUBLISHED CRITERIA WAS BROKEN OUT, AS YOU SEE HERE.

TOOK OFF 100 POINTS COMPENSATION AND FEES QUALIFICATIONS EXPERIENCE CAPABILITY THEIR PLANS FOR RECRUITMENT AND SCREENING WE DID OFFER IF THEY WERE A LOCAL VENDOR AND OF COURSE FOR THE STATE THE THAT HAD PROGRAM SO IN CONCLUSION THE CANDIDATES RECRUITED BY THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM FOR THE CITY MANAGER POSITION STATED WOULD BE SELECTED BY CITY COUNCIL SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THE RESOLUTION TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH CPSR CONSULTING FOR THE PROPOSED CONTRACT COST

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OF $30,000.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I MISSED THE PRESENTATION, BUT I REVIEWED THIS PREVIOUSLY, AND I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ALREADY PREPARED.

SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU PRESENTED THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS ALREADY.

SO.

THE MEMO STATED THAT IT HAD A SCORE TAB IN HERE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT IT WAS ATTACHED.

AS FAR AS THE SCORE TAB, WAS THAT BASED ON THE EVALUATION CRITERIA? YES, IT WAS EVALUATING BY REPRESENTATIVES FROM EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE, FINANCE, POLICE, AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS, AND THE SCORE TAB RANKED FOR THE CRITERIA THAT WAS LISTED.

OKAY, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD HERE.

I'M SORRY IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

OKAY, THE MEMO STATED THAT THE EVALUATION TEAM WOULD BE EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE, FINANCE, POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS.

I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS BASICALLY KIND OF SET IN STONE IN TERMS OF WHO WILL BE INVOLVED OR IF THAT CAN BE OPEN OR IF THERE WAS A REASON WHY, LET'S SAY, THE MAYOR OR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

OR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS OR ANYBODY LIKE THAT COULD BE INVOLVED IN THE TEAM AS WELL.

YES, SO THAT WAS JUST THE TEAM THAT EVALUATED THE PROPOSALS THAT CAME IN JUST TO HIRE THE FIRM.

THAT WAS IT.

SO THE REST IS NOT SET IN STONE.

IT'S WHATEVER COUNCIL DIRECTS.

ALL RIGHT, AND I HAD JUST ONE MORE.

I'M SORRY.

IN THE SECTION 2 OF THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT THERE, IT SAYS, FEE NOT TO EXCEED $30,000 AND EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT, IF ANY.

I WAS WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE, AND I THINK THIS IS MORE TO KEVIN, IF IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR US IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THAT TO FEE NOT TO EXCEED $30,000 PLUS REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES AS AUTHORIZED BY THE CONTRACT.

SO THAT WAY, IF WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE REIMBURSING, WE'RE PUTTING THAT IN THERE.

RIGHT, AND JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THE CONTRACT IS STILL SUBJECT TO FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS AND CHANGES.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON A PROPOSAL.

I MEAN, TRYING TO GET THE PROPOSAL.

WE CAN GET AUTHORIZED TO GO AHEAD AND NEGOTIATE.

AND, YEAH, TYPICALLY THE LANGUAGE I HAVE IS THERE'S GOT TO BE APPROVAL OF SOME OF THESE EXPENSES.

FOR EXAMPLE, TRAVEL REIMBURSEMENT IF YOU'RE HAVING TO BRING A CANDIDATE IN FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY'RE FRONTING THE PAYMENTS FOR FLIGHTS OR WHATEVER.

TYPICALLY THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO.

HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPROVE THAT IN ADVANCE AND GENERALLY THE LANGUAGE WILL BE REFLECTIVE OF THAT.

ALL RIGHT, PERFECT.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THIS IS MY MOST HATED ITEM FOR REVIEW ON THE AGENDA TODAY BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS IF IT WERE JUST HERE.

MS. DAVID GRAVES? YES.

AND IT'S SAD THAT WE ARE GOING FORWARD.

WE'RE DOING ANOTHER SEARCH WITHOUT DOING AN INVESTIGATION AS TO WHY SO MANY MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE STAFF IS LEAVING.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH, IN RECENT TIMES, A CITY MANAGER, A TEMPORARY CITY MANAGER, TWO DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS, AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, A FIRE CHIEF.

THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, THREE CFOS, PLUS A CITY ATTORNEY.

THAT IS A LOT OF TURNOVER.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S YOUR FAULT, I'M NOT BLAMING YOU, BUT I'M JUST SAYING AS A CITY WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF TURNOVER AND WE HAVE NOT DONE AN INVESTIGATION OR AN EVALUATION OF WHY THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE LEAVING, NOR HAVE WE PUT IN PLACE A CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN TO REMEDIATE OR PREVENT A REOCCURRENCE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS LEAVING.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS CRITERIA FROM? THERE IS NOT A CRITERIA.

WE HAVE NOT DONE A REVIEW OF WHY THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE LEFT SO THAT WE CAN PUT WHATEVER REMEDIARY ACTIONS IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN THIS NEW CITY MANAGER COMES ON BOARD THAT AT LEAST THERE'S SOME GUARANTEE THAT THERE WOULD BE A RETURN OF SOME LONGEVITY.

ON OUR INVESTMENT, WE JUST SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.

IS THIS THE SAME FIRM THAT WE USED FOR THE LAST SEARCH?

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AND IF SO, HOW MUCH DID WE PAY THAT FIRM TO DO THE SEARCH FOR THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER OR THE TEMPORARY CITY MANAGER THAT CAME IN? SO FOR OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER, THE PERMANENT HIRE THAT WE HAD, WE DID NOT USE THE SEARCH FIRM.

IT WAS IN-HOUSE, MEANING THAT EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE DID POST THE JOB.

WITH THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR DURING THAT TIME? NO, NOT THE PERMANENT CITY MANAGER, THE TEMPORARY CITY MANAGER.

THE TEMPORARY CITY MANAGER WAS THROUGH STRATEGIC GOVERNMENT RESOURCES, SGR, AND WE HAVE USED THEM IN THE PAST FOR A COUPLE OF OUR INTERIM SERVICES.

AND THEN CONCERNING THE TURNOVER WITH STAFF, WE DO CONDUCT EXIT INTERVIEWS, ASKING THEM A PLETHORA OF QUESTIONS AS TO WHY THEY'RE LEAVING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE CURRENTLY HAS.

IF THEY MENTION ANYTHING THAT CONCERNS A POLICY VIOLATION OR ANYTHING THAT'S UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL, WE DO MOVE ON IT.

BUT IN REGARDS TO THOSE ANSWERS, IT'S VERY GENERIC, AND IT IS OUTLINED IN THEIR RESIGNATION NOTICES AS WELL.

HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE PAY THAT SEARCH FIRM? SO WE DIDN'T.

SO SGR, YOU PAY BY THE HOUR AND IT WAS ACTUALLY CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE WERE SPENDING WITH THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER.

SO I THINK IT WAS $250 AN HOUR, I BELIEVE WE WAS PAYING THE INTERIM WITH SGR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE.

IT WAS, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THAT WAS BY THE HOUR THAT WE DIDN'T PAY A SEARCH FEE LIKE WE'RE DOING NOW.

WE DIDN'T HIRE A FIRM TO FIND A TEMPORARY CITY MANAGER.

WE JUST HIRED A TEMP AGENCY TO PLACE A...

A CITY MANAGER FOR US.

AND IT WAS ACTUALLY, ONCE AGAIN, CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE WAS PAYING AT THE TIME.

THIS ONE IS AT LEAST $30,000 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING.

WE DO NEED A CITY MANAGER.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFUL IN HOW WE SELECT INDIVIDUALS AND MAYBE HOW WE TREAT THEM.

IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION, BUT JUST TO REITERATE AGAIN AND CLARIFY, THIS CONTRACT THAT WE'RE ENTERING INTO WITH, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED, CPSHR CONSULTING, IF WITHIN LESS THAN A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS, THE NEXT CITY MANAGER LEAVES, THEY WILL PROVIDE, THEY WILL CONDUCT A NEW SEARCH WITHOUT US.

AND THIS IS A NEW CONDITION.

THIS WAS NOT IN THE PREVIOUS ONE.

AND IN YOUR PRESENTATION, IT ALSO SAID THAT THE CANDIDATES RECRUITED BY THE SEARCH FIRM SHALL BE INTERVIEWED AND SELECTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO THE CANDIDATES WILL ALL COME THROUGH CITY COUNCIL TO BE VETTED AND NOT VETTED BY STAFF, AND THEN THE FINAL ONES COME TO THE COUNCIL.

THIS FIRM IS JUST GOING TO SHORTLIST INDIVIDUALS, AND ONLY THE BEST AND QUALIFIED THAT THEY FIND, THEY WILL GIVE YOU A SHORTLIST FOR YOU TO VET AND INTERVIEW.

AND DO WE HAVE A CRITERIA WE'RE GOING TO USE THEIRS? OR IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE CONTRACT? THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP...

SEE WHAT WE HAVE, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOTHING IS SET IN STONE.

THIS IS JUST HIRING A FIRM TO START THE WORK, START THE PROCESS.

JUST, IF I MIGHT JUST JUMP IN JUST A SECOND.

I'VE BEEN THROUGH A FEW OF THESE.

MY YEARS.

TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS, AND I THINK WILL HAPPEN IN THIS CASE, IS THE FIRM WILL SEND THEIR, WHOEVER THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE, WILL ACTUALLY COME AND MEET WITH THE COUNCIL ONE OR TWO TIMES IN HELPING YOU DEVELOP THAT SEARCH CRITERIA.

HELPING YOU LOOK FOR, NOT ONLY MAYBE GUIDE YOU IN SOME OF YOUR THOUGHT, MAYBE IN SOME OF THE PROCESS, BUT ALSO TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON DEVELOPING THE KIND OF PROFILE.

THAT WOULD BE GOING OUT AS PART OF THE SEARCH PROCESS.

SO IT'S NOT THAT STAFF'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPING THAT CRITERIA.

YOU GUYS, AS THE FOLKS WHO HIRE THE CITY MANAGER, WILL BE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP THAT CRITERIA, AND WE'LL ENSURE THAT THE SCOPE SAYS THAT AS MUCH.

YEAH, AND I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS TO YOUR QUESTION OF WHY PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AND WHY WE'RE NOT, I THINK THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE PROPER WAY WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THE SEARCH THE FIRST TIME SO WE CAN GET THE BEST OF THE BEST, AND IT WASN'T A STAFF-LED DECISION.

AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A WAY THAT WE CAN START TO FIND THE STAFF THAT WE NEED AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY

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QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION THAT WE'RE HIRING FOR.

SO THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS WEREN'T QUALIFIED? CAN YOU TELL ME HOW HE IS? PARDON ME? CAN YOU TELL ME HOW HE WAS? I JUST AM ASKING A QUESTION.

I'M ASKING ONE TOO.

NO, YOU SAID TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY QUALIFY.

I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION HERE.

MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE STILL HAVE THE DIRECTORS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS PUT TOGETHER SOME KEY POINTS OF THINGS TO ASK WHEN WE'RE INTERVIEWING THE CITY MANAGER, LIKE CERTAIN AREAS THAT...

WHEN THEY'RE COMING FORTH WITH A PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF THE CITY MANAGER WAS KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THIS BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THEIR MORE DIFFICULT AREAS.

JUST SOME KIND OF FEEDBACK THAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS CAN GIVE TO US AS COUNCIL WHEN WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER OUR CRITERIA I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL OVERALL.

WELL, I CAN I MEAN, JUST AS KEVIN POINTED OUT, THAT'S WHAT THE SEARCH FIRM IS GOING TO HELP US WITH.

THE MAIN THING IS WE'VE GOT TO GET MOVING WITH THE SEARCH, RIGHT? SO I'M I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD HERE.

I'M SORRY, BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD, THE HOURLY RATE FOR THE PRIOR CITY MANAGER THAT WE HAD THROUGH SGR WAS $155.

IT WAS NOT $250.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE ITEM K-3.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES.

THIS IS TERRENCE.

[K4. 2026-06-23-R04 Consider Resolution No. 2026-06-23-R04 authorizing submission of the FY27 Department of Justice COPS Hiring Program Grant application and authorizing the City Manager to execute all necessary grant-related documents associated with the application; and take appropriate action.]

MR. JOHNSON, SECOND.

THIS WILL TAKE US TO K-4.

ITEM K-4, CONSIDER, SORRY, 2026-06-23-R04.

CONSIDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026-06-23-R04, AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF THE FY27 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COPS HIRING GRANT PROGRAM.

APPLICATION AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY GRANT RELATED DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPLICATION AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, TIFFANY WEST, PRINCETON PD, ADMIN MANAGER.

SO TONIGHT AGAIN WE'RE KIND OF LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AS MUCH AS THEY WANT TO BE LIKE US TOO, BUT TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THE COPS GRANT.

I KNOW LAST COUNCIL MEETING Y'ALL HEARD ABOUT THE SAFER GRANT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE SIMILAR TO THAT, BUT THIS IS FOR OUR OFFICERS.

SO WE HAVEN'T APPLIED YET.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION BEFORE WE CAN MAKE THAT APPLICATION COMPLETE.

BUT AS LONG AS YOU ALL GO FOR IT, WE ARE READY AND HAVE ALL OF OUR DATA TO INPUT INTO THAT.

IT'S GOING TO BE DUE AT THE END OF JULY.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR POTENTIALLY DOING THE FUNDING FOR SIX OFFICERS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR.

IT IS A 25% MATCH UP TO A THREE-YEAR TERM.

AND THIS IS WHERE THEY COVER LIKE ONE YEAR 100%, SECOND YEAR 80% AND IT KIND OF GOES DOWN OR IT'S...

25% EACH OF THE THREE YEARS.

OH, REALLY? OKAY.

SO WE ONLY HAVE TO DO 25% FOR THE THREE YEARS.

GOTCHA, OKAY.

AND WE CAN EXTEND IT UP TO THREE YEARS.

WE CAN TERMINATE IT AT TWO IF WE HAVE TO OR HOWEVER WE WANT TO PROCEED, BUT IT'LL MAX OUT AT THREE YEARS.

BASED ON BUDGET AND NEEDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? CORRECT.

QUESTION ON THAT THREE-YEAR 25% AND ALSO...

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR A FOURTH YEAR AT 100%, AND THAT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO IT'S STRINGS ATTACHED.

YES, AND YOU CAN DO THAT AT THE THIRD YEAR AS WELL.

THE MAX OUT IS ON THE FOURTH YEAR.

OKAY, SO THIS IS A PART OF YOUR PLANNING? YES.

IS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT FOURTH YEAR OR THAT FINAL YEAR AT 100%? CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHY THE SIX NUMBER CAME IN.

I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE GONE OUT AND ASKED FOR A LOT MORE TO MATCH OUR STRATEGIC NEEDS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT SIX IS WHERE WE FELT FEASIBLE BASED ON OUR PREVIOUS LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HIRE AND BEING ABLE TO PREDICT THAT.

WE FELT LIKE SIX WAS A SAFE NUMBER.

AS WE CONTINUE TO WRAP UP THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, IF THINGS CHANGE, WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF JULY TO MAKE THE CHANGES, BUT AS WE SIT TODAY, IT IS GOING TO BE SIX.

AND THEN THE OTHER STRING ATTACHED I SAW WAS, CAN YOU CONFIRM WE DON'T HAVE ANY POLICIES THAT GO AGAINST THE FEDERAL STATUTE 8 U.S. CODE 1373? I DON'T KNOW THAT CODE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WE'RE NOT ON ANY FEDERAL TASK FORCE, AND AT THIS TIME WE ARE NOT.

I ALREADY KNOW FOR THE QUESTIONS THAT CONTAIN THE EMOTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

WHEN THE GRANT PERIOD EXPIRES,

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IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE TO ABSOLVE THESE POSITIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND? YES.

AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE ASKED FOR THE SIX.

IF WE GO ON A THREE-YEAR TERM, HERE ARE THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIRE TWO EACH YEAR.

SO IF WE KNOW THAT IS THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE FY28, 29, AND 30 BUDGETS, WE WOULD ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY ARE PLANNED FOR.

INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR THE TWO IN THE GRANT PLUS AN ADDITIONAL TWO OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AS TAX DOLLARS COME IN.

THEY WOULD BE ACCOUNTED FOR AT THAT POINT.

AND I GUESS FOR KELLY, THIS IS PART OF YOUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T TANK OURSELVES IN FOUR, CORRECT? THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT THE CITY OF PRINCETON NEEDS IS A MULTI-YEAR PLAN.

PLANS SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THESE DECISIONS TODAY FOR WHAT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.

OF COURSE, IT'S HARD TO PREDICT WHAT THE TAX ROLL IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, OUT IN THE OUTER YEARS, BUT WE ALWAYS HOPE AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, ESPECIALLY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IF WE COULD GET THAT AS WELL, THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO HELP.

YEAH, AND THEN ALSO THE NEXT LINE ITEM IS GOING TO GO INTO KIND OF FUNDING AS WELL.

SO, YEAH, OKAY.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TIME.

I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT ITEM K-4-2026-06-23-R-04 AS SUBMITTED.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES 5-0.

I'LL MISS A LONG SECOND.

MISSING ONE VOTE.

[K5. 2026-159 Discussion regarding the Public Safety Sustainability & Dedicated Funding Study, and for the council to provide direction.]

LET'S TAKE IT TO ITEM K-5.

ITEM K-5, 2026-159, DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY, SUSTAINABILITY, AND DEDICATED FUNDING STUDY AND FOR THE COUNCIL TO PROVIDE DIRECTION.

MAYOR, COUNCIL AGAIN, TIFFANY WEST, PRINCETON POLICE DEPARTMENT, ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO KIND OF ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ON THE LAST TOPIC.

WHERE DO WE GET THE FUNDING? WE HAVE AN IDEA.

SO, WITH THE GENERAL FUND AND BUDGET TIME, WE ARE TRYING TO THINK OF CREATIVE WAYS TO TO BRING PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE'RE GOING TO TEAM UP WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THIS TIME.

WE ARE FRIENDLY WITH EACH OTHER.

WE DO LOVE EACH OTHER.

BUT WE TRY TO COME OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND BRING TO Y'ALL WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP OURSELVES, KNOWING THAT THE GENERAL FUND HAS TO HELP EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE'VE HEARD FROM THE LIBRARY.

WE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE LEFT BEHIND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO KNOWING THAT THE TWO OF US MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET OF THE CITY, WE DO TRY TO THINK OF OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN KIND OF HELP OUT.

SO, TONIGHT WE ARE LOOKING AT A PUBLIC SAFETY SUSTAINABILITY AND DEDICATED FUNDING.

SOME KNOW IT AS AN EMERGENCY SERVICES PREVENTION DISTRICT, SOME KNOW IT AS THE CRIME PREVENTION DISTRICT.

WE ARE LOOKING AT JOINING FORCES AND IT KIND OF JUST HOUSING PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO AS WE PREPARE FOR THE GROWTH OF PRINCETON, CURRENTLY WE'RE SITTING ROUGHLY AT 50,000 IN POPULATION AND WE KNOW THAT BOTH PUBLIC SAFETY ENTITIES ARE LACKING IN SOME STAFF.

WE ALSO KNOW WHERE THE RESTRICTIONS ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF BUDGET YEARS, ESPECIALLY UNTIL WE SEE A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL THINGS COME IN.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN REDUCE THESE THINGS HITTING THE GENERAL FUND.

IF WE DON'T ALIGN THE FUNDING GROWTH WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH, RESPONSE TIMES WILL INCREASE, STAFFING RATIOS WILL FALL, AND THE RISK WILL CONTINUE TO RISE.

SO HOW DO WE COMBAT THAT? SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS BY LOOKING AT THIS FUNDING SOURCE IS DO WE LOOK AT WAYS THAT REVENUE DOES COME BACK INTO POTENTIALLY THE EDC AND THE CDC? SO CURRENTLY WE KNOW THAT THEY EACH GET A HALF A PERCENT OF THE SALES TAX.

SO WHAT THIS CRIME PREVENTION DISTRICT...

EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT DOES IS IT ALLOWS US TO TAP INTO THE TAX PERCENTAGE ESSENTIALLY AND CREATE ITS OWN DISTRICT FOR THAT.

SO IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE WAY THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY FUNDING FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE COMES DIRECTLY FROM THAT.

IT'S A GUARANTEED FUNDING SOURCE THAT WOULD HELP PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE'VE GONE OUT AND WE'VE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GET PATROL STAFFING.

FOR INSTANCE, THE COPS GRANTS, THE SAFER GRANT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, WE'VE BROUGHT ON THE CVE.

THE MORE THAT THEY GO OUT, THE MORE THEY START TO SELF-FUND THEMSELVES.

BUT THE BIGGER PICTURE IS WE CAN'T JUST KEEP FINDING ALL THESE LITTLE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TO CREATE THIS, SO WE TRY TO FIND A BIGGER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

KNOWING WHERE THE FUNDING SITS FOR BOTH THE EDC AND THE CDC AND KIND OF WHAT THEIR RUNNING BALANCES ARE IN THEIR GENERAL FUNDS.

WE KNOW THAT THEY'VE HELPED US OUT GENEROUSLY THIS YEAR AND MADE A BIG PURCHASE FOR US

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TO HELP OUR SWAT TEAM.

BUT IF THEY'RE SITTING ON THOSE KINDS OF FUNDS AND THEY'RE LIMITED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE TAKE SOME OF THAT AND IT APPLIES STRICTLY TO US? THAT WAY WE KNOW THE GROWTH OF THIS POPULATION IS SECURED WITH PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'VE GOT THOSE DEDICATED FUNDS COMING BACK TO US.

THE OTHER THING WITH THESE FUNDS IS IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO PEOPLE.

IT'S PEOPLE, IT'S VEHICLES, IT'S TRUCKS.

TRAINING, ITS STRUCTURES, SHUTTING DOWN STATION FOUR.

AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT FURTHER FIRE STATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO YOU'LL NOTICE UP ON THE CHART RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST SHOWING YOU WHERE WE SIT AT OUR 50,000 POPULATION AND WHERE WE POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE AT 110,000 POPULATION.

KELLY, SHE HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.

WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.

BUT SHE HAS TO WORRY ABOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY.

WHEREAS CHIEF GAMMONS AND CHIEF WATERS, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE RISK THAT IT DOES TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 51 OFFICERS TO 180 SWORN, THAT'S NO SUPPORT STAFF.

THAT'S JUST SWORN WHAT WE NEED AT THAT NUMBER.

HOW DO WE GET THERE BUT ALSO TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS? THAT'S WHERE THIS FUND WOULD COME IN.

IT HELPS US OBTAIN THE ABILITY TO GET THERE.

SAME THING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

CURRENTLY WE'RE SITTING AT THREE STATIONS NEEDING A FOURTH, BUT BY THE 110 NEEDING FIVE.

AND THEN THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE APPARATUSES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND THEN THE STAFFING TO STAFF THAT FIRE STATION.

SO PLANNING FOR 100,000 RESIDENTS, THE BEST WAY IS ALIGNING THIS FUNDING FOR THE POPULATION AND THE ECONOMIC GROWTH.

IT PROTECTS US, IT PROTECTS THE COMMUNITY.

AND ENHANCES A LONG-TERM PLANNING CAPABILITY THAT WE HAVE FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

SHOULD PRINCETON PURSUE THIS DEDICATED PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING STRATEGY THAT GROWS ALONGSIDE THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHERE WE ASK COUNCIL TO GIVE US DIRECTION TONIGHT.

IF THIS IS SOMETHING Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO RUN WITH THIS IDEA BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NEEDED TO GO ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

SO MEANING THAT WE HAVE ROUGHLY TWO MONTHS TO GET ALL OF OUR HOMEWORK DONE.

TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED ON BY THE PUBLIC.

BASED ON OUR OPTIONS, WE COULD BLEND THE EDC AND THE CDC INTO ONE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

WE COULD TAKE AS LITTLE AS AN EIGHTH OF A PERCENT FROM EACH AND THEY BOTH STAY THE WAY THAT THEY ARE.

AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION IS TO DISBAND ONE OF THEM ALL TOGETHER AND THEN THAT WE EACH TAKE A QUARTER OF THAT PERCENT THAT THEY HAVE WHICH IS A HALF A PERCENT.

THE OTHER THING WITH THIS IS IF WE CREATE IT AS A PUBLIC SAFETY IT WILL HAVE TO BE A BOARD THAT HELPS RUN IT AND MANAGE IT.

WE'VE LOOKED INTO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THE JOINT ONE AND THEIR COUNCIL ESSENTIALLY IS THE BOARD FOR IT.

SO TONIGHT WE ASK YOU WHAT YOUR DIRECTION IS, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS, DO YOU HAVE ANY AT THIS POINT? BUT WHERE WOULD YOU SEE US GOING WITH THIS? YEAH, I THINK THAT I KNOW MR. WASHINGTON BROUGHT THIS UP.

THE CHAIR, WE ALSO SPOKE ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR AS WELL, JUST CREATING THIS.

THIS MECHANISM, AND I HATE TO HAVE TO DISBAND ONE OF OUR CORPORATIONS OR THEY LOSE ANYTHING, BUT I THINK THAT AS FAR AS FOR THE CITY'S PROTECTION, AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE HEADING, AS FAR AS THE INCREASE IN CRIME THAT WE'VE SEEN IN JUST IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, THAT WE NEED TO FIND A PERMANENT FUNDING MECHANISM FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE I'M BRINGING UP THE MONEY CANCELING THEIR CONTRACTS.

WE'RE DEPENDING ON MONEY THAT IS NOT GUARANTEED.

AND THEN WHEN THAT STUFF HAPPENS, THAT'S WHEN LAYOFFS HAPPEN.

IF TAX RATES CHANGE, IF OUR INCOME FOR THE CITY CHANGES, THAT AFFECTS WHETHER WE HIRE THE NEXT POLICE OFFICER, THE NEXT FIREFIGHTER, OR COMMUNITY SERVICES.

SO I THINK THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT AMENITIES WE BRING TO THE CITY, IF WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY TAKEN CARE OF, THOSE AMENITIES GO DOWNHILL REAL FAST.

SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A STRATEGY.

ONCE AGAIN, I'M FOR A PERMANENT FUNDING MECHANISM.

I KNOW PROSPER, I BELIEVE, HAS DONE THIS IN THE PAST.

I THINK ANNA HAS DONE THIS IN THE PAST.

I THINK PROSPER DONE IT TEMPORARY.

THEN THEY GOT RID OF IT.

ARE THEY STILL IN THAT DISTRICT NOW? I THINK THAT THEIR DISTRICT IS CLOSED.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TEMPORARILY.

SO OUR GENERAL FUNDING GETS TO A BALANCE WHERE WE CAN PERMANENTLY FUND IT FROM THE TAX RATE OR FROM COMMERCIAL.

BUT I THINK AT A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.

BUT IF WE DO, ONCE AGAIN, IF WE GO INTO THIS AND THE VOTERS VOTE FOR THIS.

THEY'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND VOTE TO UNDO IT.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A,

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ONCE THEY VOTE FOR IT, THIS HAPPENS, AND IF ANY CHANGES, WE'LL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE VOTERS AT THAT TIME.

AND IT DOES GET REASSESSED EVERY FIVE TO TEN YEARS.

SO WHATEVER WE INITIALLY SET IT UP TO, WE CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE TO REVISIT IT IN FIVE YEARS, SEVEN YEARS, OR TEN YEARS TO SAY, DO WE WANT TO KEEP IT AND PROCEED, OR DO WE, WE'VE KIND OF GOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND WE'RE SUSTAINABLE WITH THE GENERAL FUND AT THAT POINT.

KIND OF DISBAND IT AGAIN.

SO I'LL SAY, I MEAN, I HAD A LIST OF QUESTIONS, CONCERNS THAT I PREPARED BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THIS, I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS AND WHAT IT WOULD PERTAIN TO.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO READ THOSE OFF BECAUSE I'M SOMEONE THAT WOULD NEVER GET IN THE WAY OF SOMETHING GOING TO A VOTE, RIGHT? REGARDLESS IF I AGREE WITH IT OR DISAGREE WITH IT, I THINK IT IS OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE RESONANCE.

AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES AS POSSIBLE TO LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD AND PUT A VOTE ON SOMETHING.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO LIST THOSE CONCERNS.

WHAT I DO, I GUESS AN OBSERVATION I HAVE WITH THE REQUEST HERE, AND I KNOW THE MAYOR SUPPORTS THIS, IS I FEEL LIKE IT'S A KIND OF KNEE-JERK REACTION TO A CURRENT ISSUE WE HAVE NOW.

AND I KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE.

ON US LONG TERM AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN PATIENT ENOUGH AS FAR AS WE JUST GOT AN EDC CEO IN PLACE REGARDLESS OF HOW THAT'S GOING IS THAT WE'RE DISTURBING THE NATURAL PROGRESSION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOW A CITY IS SUPPOSED TO GO AND HOW THESE THINGS MAINTAIN YOU KNOW OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS I THINK A BAND-AID TO A DEEPER ISSUE THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY FOR A SUSTAINABLE TAX BASE, WHICH IS, I THINK, COMMERCIAL IS THE WAY TO GO, WHICH WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH FURTHER DOWN BECAUSE PUTTING THIS IN IS KIND OF UNNATURAL FOR MOST CITIES IN OUR POSITION AND OUR GROWTH RATE TO MOVE TO SOMETHING LIKE AN EMERGENCY DISTRICT.

AND WE WEREN'T PROVIDED MANY METRICS IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT FOR US.

SO I'M ALL FOR MOVING FORWARD, GETTING THIS TO A BALLOT.

I WOULD LIKE TO DO A LITTLE MORE DUE DILIGENCE ON MY END TO MAKE SURE I GET THE RESIDENTS MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR US POTENTIALLY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO STAY IN THE WAY OF A VOTE FOR THIS GOING FORWARD.

AND I THINK THAT THIS ITEM IS TO GET US THOSE NUMBERS TO MAKE THE DECISION.

THIS ISN'T TO PUSH IT TO A BALLOT.

THIS IS JUST TO GET THOSE NUMBERS SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE BIG PICTURE IS.

I THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING TO A BALLOT ON THIS VOTE.

NO, THIS IS JUST TO GET US SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT Y'ALL THINK THIS LOOKS LIKE FOR US TO DO MORE HOMEWORK.

GRANTED, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT A MONTH OR SO, SO WE WOULD HAVE TWO MORE COUNCIL MEETINGS TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR FINDINGS AND HOW WE WANT TO NARROW THIS DOWN TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE TO GET IT TO BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.

PERFECT.

SO WE HAVE A DEADLINE OF TWO MONTHS.

WE'LL REVIEW IT, AND THEN THAT INFORMATION IS WHERE WE'LL KIND OF DISSECT THE NUMBERS AND THEN VOTE ON IF WE'RE GOING TO BALLOT.

CORRECT.

AS WE CONTINUE TO PRESENT TO THIS, WE WANT TO GROW IT.

SO THAT IT'S GOT MORE ANSWERS.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO DIVE INTO IT COMPLETELY AND IT NOT BE THE VISION THAT YOU HAVE OR DIDN'T HAVE.

AND THEN JUST FALL BACKWARDS ON EVERYTHING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL CITIES THAT HAVE GROWN FASTER THAN THEY PLANNED, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE DOING THIS AT THAT FIVE-YEAR PLAN JUST TO HELP BOOST PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO AREAS THAT WHEN THE POPULATION DOES INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY, WE LACK BECAUSE THE GENERAL FUND CAN'T JUST BOOST THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BOOST EVERYBODY.

BUT WE'RE OUT THERE DAY TO DAY BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE OUR NORMAL POPULATION, WE HAVE THE COMMUTER POPULATION.

AND WITH THESE SALES TAX DOLLARS, THEY'RE COMING TO TOWN AND EATING, THEY'RE SHOPPING AT WALMART, THEY'RE GOING TO THE STORES.

SO THAT TAX DOLLARS WILL ALSO HELP US WHERE WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE COMMUTER POPULATION DURING THE DAY.

OKAY, I'M SORRY, ONE QUESTION.

I WANT TO ASK KEVIN.

ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, WILL WE BE ABLE TO VOTE OR ADD TO THIS? MAYBE FORM A COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN GET COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL MEETING WITH CHIEF TO FURTHER DISCUSS SOME OF THE PLANS FOR THIS BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE? YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO FORM A COMMITTEE AT THIS MEETING.

YEAH, AT SOME POINT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO A COMMITTEE, BUT YOU

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CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION DOING THAT TONIGHT.

YEAH, AND THE CHARTER GIVES THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE COMMITTEES, ANY BIT.

YEAH, WE CAN CREATE WHATEVER COMMITTEE THAT WE WANT.

I THINK MR. WASHINGTON WANTED TO GO.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR BECAUSE JUST WITH OUR EXPONENTIAL GROWTH, RIGHT, WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT A PERMANENT, WELL, NOT A PERMANENT, BUT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE FUNDING SOURCE.

AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, MR. JOHNSON, IS...

THIS IS DIRECTION TO BRING BACK ALL THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE NEED TO SEE, BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ONE OF THE BOARDS HAS TO BE COMPLETELY DISSOLVED.

IT COULD BE THAT THEIR PORTION IS SMALLER AND THEN THE REST WOULD GO TO THIS NEW DISTRICT THAT WAS FORMED.

SO BEING ABLE TO SEE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND SEE WHAT THE IMPACT COULD BE WOULD BE HELPFUL WHEN YOU GUYS BRING IT BACK SO WE CAN MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION ON IT.

MS. TODD? SO, IT'S IN WRITING NOW THAT WE'RE AT THE 50,000 RESIDENT MARK THAT TRIGGERS A LOT OF THINGS FOR EACH ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS OF RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE NOW HAVE TO TAKE ON.

IN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, ARE YOU TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THE NEW ADDED RESPONSIBILITIES OUR MUNICIPALITY WILL HAVE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? NOW THAT WE'VE HIT THE 50,000 THRESHOLD? A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON IF Y'ALL ADOPT THE 50,000 POPULATION OR IF THE CENSUS, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL END AT 110,000 POPULATION EITHER.

THESE ARE JUST BASED ON WATER METERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE HAVE TO GIVE AN ESTIMATION OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE USED.

50,000 IS A SCARY NUMBER FOR US.

BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING ON.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE THE $50,000 CAME FROM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS YOU NEED WHEN WE HIT THE $50,000.

CORRECT.

SO, YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT TO BRING TO THE BALLOT.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME FUNDING FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN NOW.

AND I WOULD SAY THE OTHER OPTION IS WHAT? I THINK EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL PROBABLY WOULD NEVER GO FOR IT, BUT IT'S RAISING THE TAX RATE.

AND I THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND EVERY AVENUE TO NOT RAISE THE TAX RATE.

I THINK THAT WE, I MEAN, OUR TAX RATES ARE ALREADY LOW FOR A GROWING CITY COMPARED TO OTHER GROWING CITIES THAT HAVE, THAT DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THEY HAVE A HIGHER TAX RATE.

SO I THINK THAT CREATING THESE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO FUND OUR CITY WITHOUT RAISING THE RESIDENCE TAX RATE IS BENEFICIAL.

IT DOES, LIKE ONCE AGAIN, IT DOES SUCK TO.

RESTRICT ONE OF OUR CORPORATIONS, BUT IT'S KIND OF IF WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY THE CORPORATION CAN'T OPERATE ANYWAY AND I THINK THAT THAT IS THAT IS I MEAN JUST LIKE A MOTHERBOARD THIS PIECE IS ON A BOARD THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOR IT TO WORK AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO HAVE FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE SO I JUST THINK THAT I SAID THIS IS ONE OPTION ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE RAISING TAX RATE IS ANOTHER OPTION SO I THINK THAT ALL OF THOSE IS SOMETHING WE WILL PROBABLY DISCUSS AT THE STRATEGIC RETREAT, WEATHER RETREAT, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY DISCUSS.

AND WE NEED SOMETHING MORE RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE FUTURE OF THE CITY.

AT THIS TIME, I SEE ANY MOTION.

YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K-5-2026.

EXCUSE ME, MAYOR.

THERE'S NO MOTION TO BE HAD ON THIS TONIGHT.

YEAH, THERE'S NO MOTION.

IT WAS JUST FOR US TO GET GUIDED IN THE DIRECTION OF THE MOTION.

OH, DIRECTION.

I'M SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

YEAH, SO I GUESS IF COUNCIL AGREES, LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

LET'S GET THE NUMBERS, AND LET'S BRING THEM BACK, AND LET'S SEE WHETHER IT'S REMOVING ONE OF THE CORPORATIONS OR TAKING A SMALL PERCENTAGE AND HOW THAT AFFECTS US LONG-TERM.

I ALSO AM CONCERNED WITH KIND OF WHAT MR. JOHNSON BROUGHT UP WITH OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH AS WELL.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THIS STUFF LIKE WE HAVE THESE PRODUCTS COMING UP THAT THAT MONEY CAN GO TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, BUILDING LIFT STATIONS AND BRINGING SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ECONOMIC GROWTH TOO.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KIND OF BALANCING BOTH AS WELL.

CORRECT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO GET THE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS TOO AS WELL IS IF WE JUST TAKE A SMALL PERCENTAGE FROM BOTH OF THEM BUT LEAVE THEM UP AND FUNCTIONING.

LET'S JUST SAY FOR FIVE YEARS.

THEN WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE GOING BACK? WHERE DO THE BALANCES GO ON THESE ACCOUNTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? DOES IT GET DIVIDED AND GO BACK TO THEM? DOES THEIR PERCENTAGE THAT WE TOOK GO BACK TO THEM? IF WHENEVER WE UP AND CLOSE IT OUT AND THERE'S A BALANCE IN THE BOOKS, SO WE'RE WAITING ON SOME OF THAT INFORMATION BACK FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE,

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BUT WITH THIS GUIDANCE, WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT IN THE NEXT GO-AROUND.

THIS WILL TAKE US TO ITEM K-6.

ITEM K-6.

2026-157, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE RETENTION OF SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR CITY COUNCIL-RELATED MATTERS PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.7.03 OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON HOMEROOM CHARTER, INCLUDING INDEPENDENT LEGAL REVIEW RELATED TO COUNCIL GOVERNANCE, CHARTER INTERPRETATION, ORDINANCE-RELATED ISSUES, PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGES REQUESTED BY COUNCIL, INVESTIGATIONS, CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, AND OTHER MATTERS DEEMED APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

OKAY AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THIS ITEM TO BE TABLED.

THERE WAS SOME KIND OF CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AFTER ESPECIALLY FROM SOME RESIDENTS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THIS.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS TO POTENTIALLY A MONTH FROM NOW SO I CAN JUST GET ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND PRESENT SOMETHING MORE.

SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO TABLE ITEM K6.

FOR UM TWO MEETINGS FROM NOW UH SECOND THIS IS TERRENCE HI MR JOHNSON SECOND ALL RIGHT ITEM PASSES UH MOTION PASSES FIVE

[K10. 2026-158 Consider initiating a text amendment pursuant to Section 82-33(a) (2) of the City of Princeton Zoning Ordinance ordering the consideration of a city-initiated text amendment to the Zoning Ordinance amending the regulations relating to the development and use of Data Centers and related uses within the City; and take appropriate action.]

ZERO THIS WILL TAKE US TO K 10 ITEM K 10 2026-158 CONSIDER INITIATING A TEXT AMENDMENT PURSUANT TO SECTION 82-33A2 OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON ZONING ORDINANCE ORDER THE CONSIDERATION OF A CITY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDING THE REGULATIONS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE OF DATA CENTERS AND RELATED USES WITHIN THE CITY AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THIS TO BE TABLED AS WELL.

BECAUSE PNZ, DID PNZ NOT? NO, MAYOR, I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DON'T DO THAT.

OKAY, NO, I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD TO BE.

NO, ONLY ONE BODY HAS TO DO IT.

OH, OKAY, I'M SORRY.

DON'T MIND ME.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, PARK MCDOWELL, PLANNING MANAGER, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS BEFORE.

THIS IS JUST TAKING IT BACK TO GET A FORMAL ACTION SO WE CAN START LOOKING AT OUR LAND USE TABLES FOR DATA CENTERS AND ANY SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS.

IT IS HOW YOU WANT US TO APPROACH THIS TO CHANGE THAT IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES.

AND JUST TO ADD THAT ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE WILL NOTICE IT THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL GET A CHANCE TO PUT THEIR OWN INPUT.

AND MAYOR, IF I MIGHT ADD.

REALLY, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION.

WE HAD THAT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON KIND OF THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GIVE.

ALL WE REALLY NEED IS JUST YOU TO PASS THE MOTION THAT WE COULDN'T DO LAST MEETING SO WE CAN GET THE PROCESS FORMALLY STARTED.

BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED, THOUGH.

WE CANNOT JUST PASS TO SAY, OKAY, YOU JUST NEED AN SEP.

AN SEP WITH NO REQUIREMENTS IS A BLANK CHECK.

AND LAST TIME WE WERE ONLY TALKING ABOUT C2.

DATA CENTERS ARE ALLOWED IN C1, C2, M1, AND M2.

SO IT'S FOUR ZONING AREAS THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED, AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANY PARAMETERS AT ALL.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY, COOL, CHECK THE BOX FOR AN SUP.

BUT BY THE WAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HOLD YOU TO.

SO IF YOU ASK FOR AN SUP, WE CAN'T SAY THERE'S STANDARDS TO FOLLOW.

OKAY, CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION THEN? COVERAGE WHATEVER YOUR CONCERNS ARE WELL I WAS AS I LOOKED AT THE AGENDA ITEM I THOUGHT THAT IN CONSIDERING THEIR POLICIES OR THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING TO ADDRESS THE DATA SENT THE DATA CENTER ZONING ISSUE THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT THE CITY OF 40 RED OAK, THEY HAVE ADOPTED POLICIES THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND REFER TO.

THE STATE JUST PASSED STATE BILL 6 BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE RECOGNIZED THAT DATA CENTERS STRAIN THE GRID AND SHIFT COSTS TO RESIDENTIAL RATE PAYERS.

SO WE NEED TO REALLY CONSIDER AND INCLUDE THAT DYNAMIC AT THIS LEVEL.

AND ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, WE'VE HAD OVER 30 STATE LEGISLATURES IN THE FIRST SIX WEEKS OF 2026 ALONE MAKE DECISIVE SHIFTS FROM INCENTIVE-FOCUSED POLICIES TOWARDS REGULATORY OVERSIGHTS,

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AND AT LEAST 12 STATES HAVE FILED DATA CENTER MORATORIUM BILLS.

AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER, AS IN TEXAS, THE HILL COUNTY, THEY PASSED A DATA CENTER MORATORIUM IN MAY.

THEY DID RESCIND IT.

HOWEVER, I THINK THERE IS SOME VALUE IN LOOKING AT IT.

THE TEXAS TRIBUNE REPORTED THAT ALMOST HALF OF PLANNED DATA CENTERS IN TEXAS ARE NOW PROPOSED FOR UNINCORPORATED AREAS WHERE COUNTIES LACK ZONING AUTHORITY, AND WHICH IS PRECISELY WHY, WITH ZONING POWER, WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE.

IN ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

THE MAYOR HAD A TOWN HALL RECENTLY AND SEVERAL RESIDENTS GAVE SOME COMPELLING REASONS AND SOME COMPELLING CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY THE STUDENTS THAT PARTICIPATED, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT THEY EMAIL THEIR COMMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION AND I WOULD ALSO I ALSO REQUEST MR. MAYOR THAT YOU GIVE FORMAL RECOGNITION TO THOSE STUDENTS FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT.

AND I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL TAKE A BOLD STANCE WHERE DATA CENTERS ARE CONCERNED.

MS. MAXINE CAME FORWARD AND REMINDED US OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND SOME OF THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT WE FACE AS CITIES WITH ADOPTING DATA CENTER REGULATIONS AND ALLOWING THEM TO BE BUILT AND SO WITH THOSE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE INCLUDE ALL OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS IN WHAT WE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND JUST JUST I WANT TO JUST MAKE A COMMENT THAT CAME TO MIND WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR MOTION ANY THINGS LIKE THAT THAT YOU WANT IT NEEDS TO BE IN YOUR MOTION TOO BECAUSE WHAT I'VE FOUND AND THAT'S NOBODY'S FAULT HERE BUT IF WE DID WE HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE AGREED TO THINGS HERE ON COUNCIL BUT THEN WE DIDN'T MOTION FOR IT SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN SO WHATEVER WE'RE ASKING FOR IT MAKE SURE WE MOTION FOR IT PLEASE ALL RIGHT YEAH IT'S GONNA BE A LONG ONE ALL RIGHT SO THEN I WOULD MOTION TO APPROVE UM CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR C1 C2 M1 M2 WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO OUR ZONING.

REMOVE BY-RIGHT STATUS.

THE SUP WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWABLE IN M2 AND PROHIBITED FROM ALL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.

MINIMUM DISTANCE BUFFER AND NOISE LIMITS.

A MINIMUM OF 5,000 FOOT SETBACK FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY.

MAXIMUM CONTINUOUS NOISE, 35 DECIBELS AT THE PROPERTY LINE, 30 DECIBELS AT THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL.

I'LL ALSO SEND THIS IN WRITING TO THEM.

I JUST HAVE TO READ OUT LOUD.

NEAREST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BOUNDARY AND BE VERIFIED BY AN INDEPENDENT ACOUSTIC ENGINEER AT THE APPLICANT'S EXPENSE BEFORE OCCUPANCY.

THE MANDATORY INDEPENDENT IMPACT STUDIES NON-WAIVABLE SEP SUBMISSIONS REQUIRED WATER UTILITY IMPACT STUDY WITH THE CAPACITY IMPACT PROJECTED RESIDENTIAL RATE EFFECT AND POST CLOSURE RATE BURDEN SCENARIO EXTENDING AT LEAST 30 YEARS FROM OPENING.

THEN A NOISE STUDY, A TRAFFIC STUDY, STORM WATER PLAN, PHASE ONE AND TWO ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS, FIRE PROTECTION PLAN APPROVED BY OUR FIRE MARSHAL.

CLOSE THE DEFINITION, THE LOOPHOLE DEFINITION.

SO AMEND SECTION 8228.

REMOVE THE PRIMARY USE QUALIFIER ENTIRELY.

THE DATA CENTER CLASSIFICATION TRIGGERS IF ANY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING IS MET ANYWHERE ON THE PREMISES OR WITHIN A TENANT SPACE REGARDLESS OF TOTAL BUILDING SIZE, OWNERSHIP STRUCTURE, OR NUMBER OF TENANTS, A 5% OR MORE OF ANY INDIVIDUAL TENANTS LEASED OR OCCUPIED SPACE, 5,000 SQUARE FEET OR MORE OF DATA CENTER INFRASTRUCTURE ANYWHERE IN THE BUILDING, ANY PRESENCE OF...

SERVER RACK CLUSTERS WITH THE CRA-C AND CRA-H COOLING SYSTEMS OR THE UPS POWER SYSTEMS ABOVE DEFINED TECHNICAL THRESHOLDS, A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING WITH ONE DATA CENTER TENANT IS FULLY CAPTURED UNDER B, EVEN IF THE DATA CENTER IS A SMALL FRACTION OF THE BUILDING AREA.

AND FINALLY, THE CCN UTILITY ORDINANCE.

NO CCN EXTENSION TO ANY DATA CENTER OR LARGE-SCALE COMPUTING FACILITY INSIDE OR OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS WITHOUT PRIOR COUNCIL APPROVAL AT A PUBLIC HEARING AN INDEPENDENT RATE IMPACT STUDY INCLUDING A POST CLOSURE RATE BURDEN SCENARIO EXTENDING

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AT LEAST 30 YEARS AND A WRITTEN NTMWD CONFIRMATION OF CAPACITY ADEQUACY SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE UH SO YOU'RE SO YOU'RE SECONDING HER MOTION YOU'RE SPEAKING SO YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T ARE YOU MAKING A DIFFERENT MOTION THEN OKAY THAT THAT WAS HER MOTION ALL RIGHT BUT YOU SPOKE SO THAT'S SO THAT'S A SECOND SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE A VOTE MAYOR BEFORE YOU TAKE A VOTE, LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE NATURE OF THIS MOTION.

THERE IS A PROCESS UNDER STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES THAT ONCE THIS PROCESS BEGINS, IT GOES TO THE COASTAL COASTAL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, HAS A PUBLIC HEARING THERE, HAS TO COME HERE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING THERE.

OF COURSE, I'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO THIS MOTION AS FAR AS WHAT LEGALLY CAN BE APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED AS FAR AS THE ZONING REGULATION.

THE NATURE OF THIS MOTION WOULD EFFECTIVELY LOCK IN THE PROCESS AND FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES IS FORCING THAT LANGUAGE TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE TO ULTIMATELY GO THROUGH P&Z BACK TO YOU.

SO WHEN YOU GUYS PROPOSED THE CHANGES FOR THE THING FOR THE HOTEL FOR THE HEIGHT, IT CAME TO US WITH VERBIAGE.

YES.

AND WE COULD CHANGE THE VERBIAGE.

I'M JUST ASKING FOR THIS VERBIAGE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION.

IT CAN BE CHANGED WHEN P&V LOOKS AT IT.

I'M GOING TO ASK.

AND I CAN ADD THE TAGLINE AS LEGALLY ALLOWABLE.

WELL, EVEN THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY YOU'RE ALMOST LOCKING YOURSELF IN, YOU KNOW, AND SAYING YOU MAY END UP CHANGING IT.

YOU I JUST WANT TO CAUTION YOU.

I WON'T SAY YOU CAN'T DO IT.

I JUST WANT TO CAUTION YOU OF THE POTENTIAL EFFECT OF THAT PARTICULAR HIGHLY DETAILED, UNLEGALLY REVIEWED AND UNPLANNED REVIEWED MOTION.

IF THE MOTION WANTS TO INCLUDE THAT COUNCILMEMBER DODD'S REQUIREMENTS BE CONSIDERED, REVIEWED BY STAFF AS WE GO FORWARD I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT I ADD THAT TO THE END OF MY MOTION THANK YOU REREAD IT IF YOU FEEL ADDED TO THE EMOTION I'LL BE A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT DON'T KNOW NOT REREAD I'M NOT OKAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A NEW MOTION WE NEED TO ON WHERE IT'S NOT NEW WE'RE NOT FINISHED WITH MY MOTION I'M JUST ADDING THE LAST PART OF WE HAVE AS REVIEWED BY STAFF POINT OF INFORMATION YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO REDO THE HOPE MOTION.

MAYOR, HONESTLY, I THINK IF SHE ADDS THAT THE MOTION SHE JUST HAD, THE MATTERS BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE STAFF PRESENTATION AS THE APPLICATION PROCESS BEGINS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, IF SHE WOULD ADD THAT OR BASICALLY SAY WHAT KEVIN SAID, TAKE THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND THEN HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS...

EXCEPT THAT SECOND IS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

I THINK YOU'D BE FINE.