[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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OKAY, IT IS NOW 6:30. WE WANT TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
QUICK ROLL CALL. MR. ROBERT RODRIGUEZ, IS IT? CRYSTAL JACKSON IS NOT PRESENT. ANTHONY LYNCH.
PRESENT. STEFFANIE PARKER IS NOT PRESENT. TONYA JONES.
PRESENT. MAXINE ELLIS. HERE. AND MYSELF, DARION MCCOY, PRESENT.
WE WILL HAVE THE INVOCATION IF WE CAN ALL STAND, PLEASE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WISDOM AND SUPPORT AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING. HELP US ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION.
ALLOW US TO GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP, AND TO NURTURE THE BONDS THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER.
WE ASK THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS FOR PUBLIC APPEARANCE. THIS IS SET ASIDE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT IS NOT FORMALLY SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA. AS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC MEETING APPEARANCE CARD PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PRESENT IT TO CITY STAFF.
SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THE BOARD IS UNABLE TO RESPOND OR DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THE PORTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL ADDRESS THE BOARD DIRECTLY, NOT CITY STAFF OR OTHERWISE.
BE COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL AND CORDIAL AND REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL, DEMEANING, INSULTING, THREATENING OR DISPLAYING REMARKS AS TO MAINTAIN DECORUM AND SUPPORT THE EFFICIENT AND ORDERLY FLOW OF THE MEETING.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE PRESENT TONIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM G.
[G. CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM G.1. 2026-049. CONSIDER APPROVING JUNE MEETING MINUTES WITH THE ADJUSTMENT TO TONYA JONES, CORRECT SPELLING AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM G.1.
2026-049. SECOND. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THAT. G.1 AND G.2. OH OKAY. ITEM G.2, WHICH IS 2026-050, IS CONSIDER APPROVING JULY MEETING MINUTES TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THAT AS WELL.
I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH G.1. AND G.2.
HOWEVER, WITH G.2, A FEW OF THE LINKS ARE STILL NOT WORKING, SO IF WE COULD CORRECT THAT.
BUT OTHERWISE, I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM G.1.
AND G.2. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND.
MOTION APPROVED 6-0. AND LET'S PLEASE MAKE NOTE THAT MISS CRYSTAL JACKSON IS PRESENT.
[H. REGULAR AGENDA]
MOVING ON TO ITEM H. REGULAR AGENDA. H.1. 2026-051.REVIEW CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION 2026-06-08-R05 FOR EPT COMMERCIAL.
I HAVE MR. NATHAN BECKY HERE WITH EPT. THIS IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER ON ALL PARK PROJECTS FOR THE 2023 GO BONDS, ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC POLICE TRAINING FACILITY.
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HE ALSO IS A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THAT PROJECT AS WELL.THIS IS THE CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY FOR MR. BECKY KIND OF WHAT HIS SCOPE IS, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM, I'M SURE HE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST HAVE A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT ON WHAT THEY DO FOR US, HOW THEY. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ENTAILED.
YES. SO, MR. BECKY IS KIND OF THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CONTRACTORS.
HE ACTUALLY PUTS OUT, DEVELOPS A LOT OF OUR RFPS, NOW WE HAVE A PURCHASING POLICY IN FINANCE, BUT MR. BECKY ACTUALLY WORKS WITH CONTRACTORS AND THE CITY.
SCHEDULING MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, WORKING AS THE LIAISON FOR THE CITY, NEGOTIATING, YOU KNOW, AND DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDS THINGS THAT THE CITY STAFF DOES NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TIME, YOU KNOW, TO MANAGE THESE PROJECTS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MR. BECKY IN THOSE PLACES. I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT ON A COUPLE OF THESE LAST PROJECTS, WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE OVER ACTUALLY AROUND $1 MILLION SO FAR IN SAVINGS BECAUSE HE'S ABLE TO WORK AND IDENTIFY SOME OF THE SCOPE.
CUT OUT SOME OF THE OVERHEAD. PICK IT UP UNDER HIMSELF.
LOOK OUT FOR DIFFERENT RFPS AND, YOU KNOW, SOLIDIFY THOSE CONTRACTS AS A CITY AND A WHOLE VERSUS HAVING UNDER GC WHERE YOU'RE PAYING MARKUP AND PERCENTAGE WISE. SO I'LL LET HIM SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT REGARD.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, BOARD, BOARD CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS NATHAN BECKY, EPT COMMERCIAL. AS CHASE SAYS, BEEN WORKING OUT HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ACTUALLY DATING PROBABLY BACK TO 2022, FOR A VARIETY OF PROJECTS. THE MISSION IN ALL THIS IS REALLY TO ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON, ESSENTIALLY A THIRD PARTY. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN VENDORS SEE THE CITY, THEY THINK DEEP POCKETS.
SO HAVING A GOALIE AS YOUR ADVOCATE AND ESSENTIALLY YOUR DEFENSE AND REALLY CHALLENGE EACH OF THE VENDORS ON THEIR INVOICES, THEIR PRICING, THEIR PROPOSALS, AND REALLY PUT PRESSURE ON THEM.
THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL VENDORS WHERE WE'VE PUSHED BACK ON CALDWELL PARK AND THEY'VE GIVEN US A NUMBER AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OTHER VENDORS, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO USE YOU GUYS, BUT. AND THEY'VE COME BACK WITH VERY AGGRESSIVE NUMBERS.
LIKE, WE REALLY WANT TO WORK. WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? AND SOME NUMBERS HAVE COME DOWN. SOME OF THE INVOICING PROTOCOLS ON HOW THEY CHARGE TIME AND HOW CHANGE ORDERS ARE PROCESSED THROUGH. IT'S JUST HAVING A SORT OF A NEUTRAL PARTY TO REALLY CHALLENGE GOES A LONG WAY.
THE MORE YOU SAVE, THE MORE YOU GET ON ALL THESE PROJECTS.
LIKE CHASE MENTIONED, CALDWELL PARK, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF BREAK UP SOME OF THOSE CONTRACTS AND DO ONE FOR TURF AND ONE FOR LIGHTING AND JUST TRYING TO DO THE BEST VALUE, NOT NECESSARILY THE CHEAPEST VENDOR, BUT HIGH QUALITY VENDORS AND JUST GET THE BEST VALUE FOR THE CITY.
SO THAT'S BEEN THE APPROACH IN ALL OF IT. J.J.
SO IT'S JUST REALLY LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE THING FROM MONUMENT SIGNS TO SCHEDULE.
SO IT'S HOLDING CONTRACTORS ACCOUNTABLE TO SCHEDULE THE DESIGN TEAM, HELPING THEM GET OFF HIGH CENTER, AND THEN ADVOCATING FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY, FROM PUBLIC WORKS, TO IT, TO PARKS AND REC, TO MARKETING. AND MAKING SURE THE CITY'S NEEDS ARE ALSO MET BECAUSE CONTRACTOR JUST GOES AND GOES.
AND A LOT OF TIMES LIKE, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, THAT'S NOT THE CITY STANDARD AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING WHAT YOU DESERVE AND WHAT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY NEED. SO I'M HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO JUST GET THE BEST PRODUCT POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I APPRECIATE. I JUST WANT TO DO A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT DETAIL ON IT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING FOR US.
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YOU'RE WELCOME. IT'S FUN BEING HERE. THANK YOU.I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. WHENEVER YOU COME TO THE SAVINGS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE SAVINGS? WHERE DO THEY GET ALLOCATED? DO THEY GET PUT INTO ADDITIONAL UPGRADES OR HOW IS THAT MONEY USED? YEAH. SO AS IT RELATES TO THE ENTIRE BOND OR PARKS AND REC BOND, THERE'S KIND OF A CAPITAL ALLOCATION WHERE EACH PROJECT IS ESSENTIALLY BUDGETED.
SO, YOU KNOW, ANY SAVINGS ISN'T COMING TO ME.
IT'S THE CITY'S DOLLARS AND IT JUST SITS WITHIN THE PARKS AND REC BOND.
SOME PROJECTS, AS PROJECTS GET FURTHER ALONG, THAT SAVINGS IS ESSENTIALLY RECOGNIZED LIKE, HEY, WE'VE GOT A BUFFER IN HERE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT NOW. IT SORT OF SITS BACK IN THE 109 AND THEN JUST CREATES A SURPLUS TO APPLY TOWARDS DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO EVERY PENNY SAVED IS GOING INTO ANOTHER PROJECT.
IS THERE A DASHBOARD OR ANY TYPE OF REPORT THAT REFLECTS THOSE NUMBERS? YEAH. SO ANY NUMBER YOU NEED FOR ANY PROJECT, WE HAVE THROUGH FINANCE ACCOUNTING IN TERMS OF REAL TIME OR JUST PROJECTIONS.
WHENEVER YOU NEGOTIATE WITH THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES, ARE THERE REPORTS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SEE AS WELL? LIKE THAT REFLECT THOSE COMPARISONS? YEAH, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT.
SO WHAT THIS BOARD LOOKS AT AND WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WHAT THE CITIZENS AND THE RESIDENTS VOTED FOR WAS DOLLAR ALLOCATIONS ASSOCIATED TO OPINIONS OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, OPCCS BASED ON EACH INDIVIDUAL PARK.
THESE ARE ENGINEERED NUMBERS THAT WE LOOK AT FOR DOLLAR AMOUNTS ALLOCATED TO HEY, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO BUILD A REC CENTER? THE MULTI GENERATIONAL FACILITY, WE HAVE THAT SLATED IN THE OVERALL 109.
SO SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GET IN DESIGN, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AS WELL.
SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT MAY BE 2 OR 3 YEARS OUT, WILL INFLATION GOES UP, TARIFFS AND SO FORTH.
BUT MAYBE WE JUST RUN TO A DIFFERENT VENDOR THAT'S PROVIDING US A SIMILAR STYLE PRODUCT.
THE DOLLARS THAT ARE SAVED JUST ROLL BACK IN.
SO WE STILL HIT THAT NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT IDENTIFIED FOR EACH PROJECT.
AND IF WE ARE OVER, WHICH HAPPENS, IT DOES RIGHT IN A DESIGN, THEN WE HAVE TO START SCALING BACK AND PRIORITIZING ONE, TWO AND THREE, AS WE'VE TAKEN SOME OPTIONS IN THIS PREVIOUS YEAR TO COUNCIL AS WE HAVE OPTIONS ONE TWO AND THREE.
THREE BEING THE ALL IN. DOES COUNCIL WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT ENSURE THAT, HEY, WE GET EVERYTHING THAT THIS PARK WAS DESIGNED FOR, OR DO WE WANT TO SCALE IT BACK THAT PROJECT DIRECTLY, WHICH IS J.J. BOOK. COUNCIL CHOSE OPTION THREE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILD THIS SKATE PARK FOR THE FUTURE.
BUT WE STILL HAVE TO PUT A CAP ON EACH PROJECT.
QUESTION THAT MIGHT BE SILLY, BUT THE FEES FOR MR. BECKY, DO THEY COME OUT OF THE BOND? ARE THEY PART OF THE BOND OR ARE THEY A SEPARATE BUDGET ITEM? THOSE ARE SEPARATE BUDGET ITEMS, ALL OF SOFT COSTS.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER WAY TO STRETCH THAT 109.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE 109 IS BASICALLY ALL IDENTIFIED FOR HARD COSTS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
YOU KNOW, FOR PARKS THAT WE CAN. SO ALL OF OUR SOFT COSTS COME OUT OF PARK DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, WHICH IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE, ENSURING THAT THE RESIDENTS GET THE MOST PARKS INSTEAD OF FEES ASSOCIATED TO ENGINEERING
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AND DESIGNS OUT OF THAT 109. NO. PARKS ABSORBS THOSE FROM DEVELOPMENTS.THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I BELIEVE THAT IS IT, SIR.
THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU BET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING TONIGHT.
YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM H.2.
2026-052. UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ON ARCADIA FARMS HOA FIELD USAGE AGREEMENT AND NOT EXTEND FOR FUTURE YEARS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. CHAIR AND BOARD, BEFORE WE START THIS AGENDA ITEM, I HAVE TO PERSONALLY RECUSE MYSELF, AS I AM THE ARCADIA FARMS HOA PRESIDENT AND SIGNED THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING OR COMMENTING ON THIS ITEM.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
ORIGINALLY, WHEN THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE MANY YEARS AGO.
NOW THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR THIS FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WAS EXECUTED THIS PAST OCTOBER, BUT IT WAS REALLY MORE OF A HANDSHAKE DEAL BETWEEN PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION AND THE DEVELOPER WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT FIRST ORIGINALLY CAME ONLINE. AT THAT TIME, THE CITY OF PRINCETON NEEDED FACILITIES FOR YOUTH SPORTS AND OPEN GREEN SPACE FOR KIDS TO PLAY AND PRACTICE. SO WHEN THE DEVELOPER ESTABLISHED AND BUILT THE COMPLEX, THE NEED FOR PRINCETON WAS, HEY, YOU BUILD US SOME FIELDS FOR US TO UTILIZE BECAUSE THAT'S OUR NEED.
AND IN LIEU OF YES, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, WHICH HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY EIGHT YEARS.
I BELIEVE EIGHT YEARS. SO OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, OF COURSE, WE'VE GROWN AS A CITY.
1ST OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS THREE LARGE MULTI-USE ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS.
SO BASED ON THAT, THE COST OF MAINTENANCE TO OPERATE AND TO MANAGE THIS FACILITY.
WELL, MOST OF OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO BE MIGRATED ALL BACK TO OUR OWN PARK AT CALDWELL.
BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW FROM A FINANCIAL ASPECT, WE PUT MONEY INTO MAINTAINING, OPERATING LIGHT TOWERS, PORTABLE RESTROOM FACILITIES ON SITE, WHICH ARE UNAPPEALING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND PLUS THE CONSTRAINTS OF PARKING AT THIS SITE.
LUCKILY, WE DO HAVE USAGE FOR PARKING FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
MR. MCINTYRE HAS BEEN SO KIND TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOW US TO USE THE SCHOOL PARKING, BUT NOW THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE FACILITIES AS A CITY OWNED PART FROM AN ASPECT, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT PARKS WOULD RECOMMEND NOT ENTERING INTO THIS CONTRACT FOR FUTURE YEARS TO COME AND PROVIDING THE SPACE BACK TO THE ARCADIA HOA.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.
WILL THIS IMPACT THE ABILITY TO BRING BACK THE ADULT SOFTBALL LEAGUE THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED? THE ADULT SOFTBALL LEAGUE HAS. AND I SPOKE TO COUNCIL ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING.
THIS DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY MORE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR ADULT LEAGUES.
THE ARCADIA FARMS HOA PARK. I MEAN, THE FIELD IS ONLY A TEE BALL FIELD.
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300 FOOT, YOU KNOW, FULL SIZE BASEBALL, SOFTBALL FIELD.NOW I WILL EXPAND BECAUSE IT DOES STILL HIT ON THIS TOPIC.
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH GTLC, WHICH IS A NEW BASEBALL COMPLEX, AS WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF EXECUTING A DESIGN CONTRACT WITH OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TEAM THAT WILL PROVIDE MORE FULL SIZE FIELDS AND FACILITIES SO WE CAN BRING ON ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS SUCH AS SOME ADULT SPORTS.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED TO COUNCIL LAST MONDAY, JUST BECAUSE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, CONVERTED THE FIELDS AT CALDWELL TO ARTIFICIAL GRASS ON THE INFIELD, THAT STILL DOESN'T PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPACES.
WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT ELIMINATES THE RAIN OUTS THROUGH THE SEASON.
THANK YOU. WITH LIMITED SPACE ALREADY AS WE KNOW, BEING DIFFICULT FOR TEAMS TO SHARE FIELDS.
DO YOU THINK THE TURF WILL PROVIDE ADEQUATE SPACE FOR TEAMS TO SHARE NOW THAT YOU'RE REMOVING THE ARCADIA FIELDS? YES. SO WE STILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF FIELDS THAT WE HAD, WHICH WAS THE TWO FULL SIZE FIELDS AT CALDWELL.
BUT NOW WE'VE ADDED THREE ADDITIONAL. SO WE'VE ADDED.
IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FIELDS FOR PRACTICE ONLY AND AVOID ANY GAMES? JUST BEING A VOLUNTEER COACH MYSELF AND HAVING TO BATTLE IT OUT SOMETIMES FOR FIELDS, I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO ACCESS THEM SOMETIMES.
AND EVEN WITH ADULTS USING THOSE FIELDS, IT'S HARD FOR US TO USE THEM.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO HAVE ACCESS FOR PRACTICE OR ADJUST A CONTRACT FOR PRACTICE ONLY INSTEAD OF GAMES? ARE WE TALKING AT CALDWELL OR ARE YOU TALKING LIKE.
THE ARCADIA ONE TO STILL HAVE ACCESS FOR PRACTICE? I KNOW A LOT OF COACHES WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING EXTRA SPACE.
SO WITH THIS AND IF WE NO LONGER MOVE FORWARD WITH EXECUTING THE CONTRACT FOR THE ADDITIONAL YEARS, THAT SPACE WOULD BELONG BACK TO THEIR HOA AS IT STILL BELONGS TO THE HOA.
WE JUST HAVE BASICALLY, WE UTILIZE THE FACILITIES FOR A SCHEDULE FROM THE SPRING AND THE FALL.
WHAT THIS WOULD ALSO DO, THIS COULD ALLOW THE HOA TO SET UP FACILITY USAGE FOR RESIDENTS AS FAR AS CHARGING RENTING THAT SPACE TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE INTO THE HOA.
HOWEVER, THE EIGHT. HOWEVER, ARCADIA WANTED TO SET THAT UP.
THAT WOULD BE AT THEIR DISCRETION. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE HOA WOULD DO, BUT AS FAR AS PRACTICES GO, WE WOULD NO LONGER SCHEDULE OR, YOU KNOW, PLACE ANYBODY ON THOSE FIELDS SPECIFIC BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE OUR POSITION TO SCHEDULE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY FOR OUR USAGE. RIGHT.
MY QUESTION WAS, IS IS THERE ANY WAY TO RESTRUCTURE THAT CONTRACT OR GO BACK AND AMEND IT SOMEHOW TO WHERE WE DO STILL HAVE ACCESS FOR PRACTICE ONLY? WELL, SO THEN ONCE AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE ENTERING BACK INTO THE SAME INTO THE CONTRACT FOR USAGE.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SCHEDULING PRACTICES THAT WOULD, YOU MAY STILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT FACILITY, BUT IT WOULD BE BETWEEN YOU AND THE HOA. NOT YOU IN THE CITY AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
IN TERMS OF CALDWELL GOES, WE HAVE FACILITY USAGE FOR RENT WHICH ARE OUT OF SEASON NOW.
WE SCHEDULE PRACTICES THROUGH OUR YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAM WHERE EVERYBODY IS GUARANTEED A PRACTICE.
BUT AFTER SEASONS AND SO FORTH, IF ANY INDIVIDUALS OR ANY RESIDENTS WANT TO UTILIZE THE FACILITIES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RENT IT. JUST AS WHETHER IT'S AND WE DO HAVE SEPARATE RATES, RESIDENT AND NONRESIDENT RATES, BUT YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO RENT THEM LIKE ANY OTHER.
AS FAR AS THIS CONTRACT GOES, IT'S NOT. CAN WE PICK AND CHOOSE HOW WE WANT TO STRUCTURE.
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DO WE WANT TO SCHEDULE SOME PRACTICES OR NOT? IT'S WE ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT IN THE FUTURE, OR WE SAVE THOSE EXPENDITURES FROM OUR OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET, FROM THE PARKS, PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.AND I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I HAVE A QUESTION. WITH REGARD MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE AGREEMENT IS THAT WHAT WE DO IN EXCHANGE FOR USING THAT THEIR FACILITIES IS THAT WE DO THE MAINTENANCE, BASICALLY THAT WE KEEP UP THE LAWNS.
DO WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? YES. WE WE SPEND ALMOST $25,000 A YEAR IN OPERATION COSTS.
NOW, A LOT OF THAT COST, I WILL SAY NOT A LOT OF IT, BUT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED TO RENTING THE LIGHT TOWERS TO BE OUT THERE ON SITE. PLUS, WHEN YOU'RE RENTING THE LIGHT TOWERS, YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO HAVE ON CALL SERVICES AND PARKS MAINTENANCE, ENSURING THAT THEY'RE SHUT OFF. SOMETIMES THEY ARE.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT ON PRACTICES THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE ON THOSE SITES.
THE PORTABLE RESTROOM FACILITIES. SO PLUS OUR OPERATION COSTS FOR THE SURFACES, WHICH IS THE GRASS AND THE CLAY, THE INFIELD. AND WE HAVE THAT ESTIMATED COST A LITTLE OVER 25000 ANNUALLY FOR, FOR ALL IN.
THE YOU SAID THE, THE, IT WAS THE SIZE OF THE FIELD IS A TEE BALL, CORRECT? SO THAT'S BEEN REPLACED AT CALDWELL. DID YOU SAY THAT'S REPLACED AT CALDWELL.
YEAH. THE TEE BALL FIELD. YES. YES WE WE UTILIZE TEE BALL AT CALDWELL.
AS WE DO HAVE WHITE WING, WHICH WE HAVE AN OPEN FIELD SPACE.
ALSO, WHAT I WILL NOTE WHEN IT COMES TO FACILITIES, OUR NEW COMPLEX AT CALDWELL, WHICH IS A THREE LARGE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS IN ALL CORNERS, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE BASS PLUGS.
SO IF WE WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL SPORTS LATER ON, WHETHER IT'S TEE BALL, KICKBALL OTHER PROGRAMING THAT WE CAN DO, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO UTILIZE THOSE SAME FIELDS FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES.
SO THIS ITEM IS THAT WE TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS PLEASE. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE H.22026-052. I SECOND THE MOTION. AND CAN WE BE MORE CLEAR AS FAR AS WHAT THAT MOTION WOULD BE.
THE MOTION WOULD BE TO NOT GO INTO THE AGREEMENT FOR FURTHER YEARS.
MOTION PASS 6-0. SORRY. OKAY. MOVING TO ITEM H.32026-053. CONSIDERING. DISCUSS MARKETING EFFORTS WITH PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
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SO IN THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED AS FAR AS SOME MARKETING INITIATIVES AND WHAT WE DO AS FAR AS THE CITY.SO I WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THIS RIGHT HERE WAS IS SENT OUT AND I'M GOING TO SAY MAY, MAY, JUNE. BUT WE RUN A QUARTERLY ACTIVITY GUIDE FOR SPRING, SUMMER, FALL AND WINTER.
AND IT LISTS ALL THE ACTIVITIES COMING UP. WE POST ON SOCIAL MEDIAS ON FACEBOOK THE MAIN PAGE, ALL OF OUR PARKS AND REC PAGES THE LIBRARY, INSTAGRAM.
AND AS FAR AS SOCIALS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SOCIALS GO THAT I THINK THAT MAY COVER IT.
SOME OF IT THROUGH THE MAIN CORRIDORS, LOOKING AT BEECHAM, MONTE CARLO, AND MYRICK, WHICH IF YOU'RE COMING INTO PRINCETON, TYPICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO TRAVEL ONE OF THOSE ROUTES ON PRETTY MUCH ANY GIVEN DAY.
SO, AND THEN THE, WE HAVE OUR EMAIL FOOTPRINT TRYING TO THINK THE. YES. SO AS FAR AS IT GOES, THIS IS KIND OF SCROLLING THROUGH WHAT OUR SUMMER ACTIVITY GUIDE LOOK LOOKS LIKE. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE.
THAT'S A GOOD ONE RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR OUR CITY PAGE.
DOWNLOAD THE APP. THIS GIVES ALL UPDATED INFORMATION.
AND A LOT OF THIS STUFF I UNDERSTAND IS SOCIAL MEDIA BASED, WEB BASED.
WHEN YOU START LOOKING INTO FLIERS AND YOU'RE RUNNING, YOU KNOW, A ROUGH POPULATION OF 50,000, THAT GETS VERY COSTLY. AND A LOT OF THE FLIERS THAT ARE PUT OUT IN, YOU KNOW, WATER BILLS AND SO FORTH, IT'S A IT'S A TIME AND MANAGEMENT PROCESS THAT STAFF IS REALLY LIMITED IN PRINCETON BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THOSE FLIERS TOGETHER AND SENDING THEM OUT.
SO THESE RIGHT HERE, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE POST AND HOW WE POST.
I KNOW, MISS ELLIS, YOU DO A GREAT JOB FOLLOWING ALONG AND SHARING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN RECOMMEND THAT ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE COMING FROM THE CITY AS A BOARD, IF YOU WANTED TO SHARE THAT ACROSS ALL YOUR PAGES AND YOUR PAGES AND WHAT YOU HAVE THAT HELPS GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL WE TRY TO ASSIST THE BEST AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT? I'M NOT THE MARKETING GURU. BUT I DO SEE, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA IF WE GET, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT A POSTER BOX AS A, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S TECHNICALLY CALLED. IT'S PROBABLY THE SIZE OF THE TWO WAY MIRROR OVER THERE WHERE AND PUT IT AT CALDWELL IN A FEW DIFFERENT AREAS.
PUT IT AT THE SKATE PARK, PUT IT AT ALL OF OUR PARKS WHERE WE CAN, AND MAYBE MAKE IT ELECTRONIC.
MAYBE JUST PRINT A POSTER OUT WITH THESE ITEMS SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE GO TO THESE LOCATIONS, PUT ONE AT THE DOG PARK, CALDWELL SKATE PARK, THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SCAN THAT QR CODE TO READ THE POSTER. YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE THE NATIONAL PARKS AND REC MONTH JULY SOMEWHERE.
BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU I'M ON SOCIAL MEDIA, RIGHT? AND I DO EVERY SINGLE POST THAT THE CITY HAS.
I SHARE MY ARCADIA GROUP EVERY SINGLE POST. BUT I WILL ALSO TELL YOU, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT AYE ARE NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR B JUST DON'T READ IT BECAUSE IT'S SOMEONE TODAY IN MY GROUP CLEARLY ASKED ME WHEN THE BACK TO SCHOOL BASH WAS TO GET BACKPACKS. WELL, THAT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I SHARED IT? SO IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUT IN THE PARKS WOULD BE FANTASTIC. THAT. THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. MISS ELLIS.
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SO I WILL NOTE THE APP STANDS. THOSE ARE DIGITAL MESSAGING BOARDS.I KNOW WE MENTIONED THIS AND WE'RE NOT ON THAT SAME TOPIC, BUT WE ARE ON A MARKETING TOPIC.
AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR THOSE THOSE PROGRAMS, THESE ACTIVITY GUIDES ARE RUNNING 24/7 THROUGH THOSE DIGITAL MESSAGING BOARDS. SO IF YOU'RE AT ONE OF THE PARKS AND YOU SEE THIS INFORMATION, THIS IS CONSTANTLY SCROLLING, KEEPING RESIDENTS THAT VISIT THESE PARKS UP TO DATE ON MOST CURRENT INFORMATION.
AS FAR AS PUTTING FLIERS IN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THAT AT CALDWELL BEFORE.
NOBODY PICKS THEM, NOBODY GOES OVER TO THOSE AND TAKES THEM, TAKES OUT A HARD COPY.
BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S VISUAL, YOU KNOW, UPON ENTRANCE AND YOU'RE SEEING ALL THE TIME AND IT'S CONSTANTLY FLOWING THROUGH YOUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. THAT CATCHES YOUR EYE AND YOU KNOW YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG THAT WAY.
HAVE WE LOOKED AT AN ALTERNATIVE? I KNOW AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, THIS APP STANDS.
WE, YOU KNOW, THE DIGITAL MESSAGING BOARD THAT CAME ALONG WITH THEM.
BUT HAVE WE LOOKED AT ANY ALTERNATIVE DIGITAL MESSAGING BOARD SINCE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ZAP STANDS AT THIS TIME? YES WE HAVE. AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP TO THE CDC AS IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE CDC.
SO SOME OF THE MESSAGING BOARDS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THE PREVIOUS CDC MEETING THAT WAS TABLED UNTIL THE NEXT THOSE ACT AS THOSE ARE PORTABLE. SO NOT ONLY WILL THEY BE ABLE TO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, TRANSFER COMMUNITY INTEREST GUIDES, BUT IT ALSO ACTS AS TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.
YOU KNOW, PD POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEM FOR FOR THEIR NEEDS.
SO THEY WILL ACT AS MULTIFUNCTIONAL AND NOT JUST FOR US PROGRAM GUIDES.
HOWEVER, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THIS THAT'S WHAT THIS THE PURPOSE THAT THEY WOULD SERVE.
WOULDN'T THEY BE USED STRICTLY DURING EVENTS OR ARE WE GOING TO LIKE RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO EVENTS. ARE YOU GOING TO PER SE HAVE A MESSAGE BOARD OUT THERE JUST RANDOMLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SHOWING MAYBE THE QR CODE, SHOWING SOMETHING? BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED UNTIL THERE'S AN EVENT, THEN THAT'S KIND OF DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A MESSAGING BOARD. AGAIN, GOING ZAPS FANS ARE GREAT.
BUT AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE IDEA WITH THE POSTER BOX.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT HAVING THE SIGN OUT THERE, IF IT'S ONLY FOR AN EVENT.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE MARKETING TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
YES. ALONG WITH THAT MARKETING INITIATIVE. I MEAN, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT WAS LOOKING AT RUNNING ADS ON THE DIGITAL THREE BILLBOARDS. TRYING TO GET CONSTANTLY GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE FOR RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE. I'LL GO BACK TO THIS. THERE'S PROBABLY A MILLION WAYS WE CAN HANDLE THE MARKETING INITIATIVE AND HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT INFORMATION. BUT AS I ALWAYS DO SAY TO.
IT IS UPON THE RESIDENT TO WANT TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ON A, IF YOU'RE ON SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND YOU JUST SCROLL RIGHT PAST IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT OF YOUR INTEREST, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT OF YOUR INTEREST, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO WANT TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION OR SEEK IT TO RECEIVE IT.
WE CAN PUT IT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT IF IT'S OUT IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU DON'T READ IT.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN THERE'S NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO READ A FLIER THAT WE'RE SENDING TO YOU DIGITALLY, WHO'S TO SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO READ IT IF I SEND IT TO YOU IN A HARD COPY? I HAVE A STATEMENT. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR US TO DO THINGS DIGITALLY, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S ONLY ESTABLISHED RESIDENTS WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR CITY FACEBOOK PAGES AND OUR PARKS PAGES BECAUSE THEY DON'T.
NEW RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW TO JOIN THAT STUFF UNTIL THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
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SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE, FOR ME PERSONALLY. THAT WOULD BE THE NEED FOR PAPER COPIES.SO IF WE COULD SEND OUT SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MAILER, IS THERE A WAY WHERE WE COULD MAYBE PARTNER WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES SO THAT THEY COULD PUT THEIR MARKETING IN THERE ALSO TO SAVE SOME COST? BECAUSE HAVING PAPER STUFF IS, IF NOT NOW, IN THE FUTURE, ONCE WE GET BIGGER AND WE HAVE MORE THINGS, I THINK THAT'S ESSENTIAL. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE WHO NEVER WILL GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR SCAN A QR CODE OR DO ANY OF THAT, AND THEY PREFER TO HAVE THAT STUFF IN THE MAIL.
LIKE, I KNOW I USED TO LIVE IN MCKINNEY AND THEY STILL SEND ME MCKINNEY MAGAZINES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT BUSINESSES ARE IN THEIR AREA, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR PARKS, WHAT EVENTS THEY'RE HAVING, ALL OF THAT. AND IT'S NICE TO SEE. AND THIS WHAT YOU POSTED WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO GET IN THE MAIL JUST TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED, LIKE PUT IT ON YOUR COFFEE TABLE OR ON YOUR TABLE AND THE KIDS SEE IT OR FAMILY MEMBERS SEE IT.
YEAH. EVEN AS A, A ONE PAGER THAT CAN GO IN, LIKE WHEN A NEW RESIDENT PURCHASED THEIR HOME IN LIKE A WELCOME PACKAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I KNOW THAT'S COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT THAT'S AN IDEA OF WE DO THAT.
WE HAVE TWO PAGES OF ADVERTISING EVERY SINGLE YEAR THAT I WORK WITH OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
WE ARE CURRENTLY AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS.
MARKETING ALL OF OUR NEW PROJECTS, ALL OF OUR SPORTS, OUR SEASONS.
AND WHAT IS UP TO DATE WITH THE PROJECT AND OUR BOND PAGES IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PAGES.
SO WE'RE GIVING OUT HARD COPIES AS WELL THROUGH ALL NEW HOME HOME BUYERS.
AND REALLY THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE SKY'S THE LIMIT, BUT SOME, AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DRAW A CAP ON HOW MUCH YOU'RE SPENDING ON MARKETING AND HOW YOU PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.
BUT YES, CURRENTLY ALL OF THE NEW HOME BUILDS AND EVERYTHING.
IF YOU WERE TO GO GET A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THE NEWSLETTER, THE BOOKLET, YOU WILL SEE PARKS AND REC HAS TWO FULL PAGES INSIDE THAT, AS YOU KNOW, ANNUALLY. QUICK QUESTION DO HAVE WE OR DO WE PUT ANYTHING IN THE WATER BILL BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING EVERY PRINCETON RESIDENT WOULD GET AND WOULD OPEN IF IT'S COMING IN THE WATER BILL.
I DON'T, I DON'T I DON'T THINK I GET A WATER BILL, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING WE'VE DONE BEFORE? I MEAN, I GET A WATER BILL, BUT I DON'T THINK I OPEN IT.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T. IT'S ALL A LOT OF THAT STUFF.
AND THERE ARE SOME. BUT THAT'S WHERE I'VE, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO REITERATE THE COST ASSOCIATED TO PUTTING FLIERS AND THE PERSONNEL THAT IT REALLY TAKES TO PRINT THESE FLIERS, FOLD THEM AND PUT THEM INTO WATER BILLS WHEN I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO THROW OUT A NUMBER, BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS, IT'S ALL BY EMAIL AND DIGITAL.
SO WHETHER IT'S. AND I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A QUICK TALLY.
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOURS IS ALL DIGITAL UP HERE ON THE DAIS.
SO WHO OPENS THEIR WATER BILLS MONTHLY? SO WE GOT A COUPLE, RIGHT? THE A LOT OF IT IS IT'S ALL DIGITAL THESE DAYS.
AND WE CAN GO INTO MARKETING A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED. BUT WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT OUR RESOURCES ARE, WHAT OUR FUNDING SOURCES IS AND HOW WE CAN PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE. AND I THINK OUR MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT DOES A FANTASTIC JOB BY PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, RESIDENTS HAVE TO WANT TO RECEIVE IT AND GET INVOLVED.
SIGN UP FOR THE NEWSLETTERS, SIGN UP FOR THE QUARTERLY REPORTS AND GUIDES US OPEN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE'S, YOU KNOW, GET INVOLVED WITH THEM TO SEE THAT INFORMATION.
AND IF SOME OF THESE OTHER MARKETING INITIATIVES DO GO THROUGH WHERE WE'RE ADVERTISING ON BILLBOARDS, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER SOURCE OF PUTTING THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENTS.
AND AT THAT POINT, REALLY, THAT'S THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.
WHEN YOU PUT THESE GUYS TOGETHER, IS IT PER QUARTER? IS THAT HOW YOU HOW WE DO IT? FALL, SPRING AND SUMMER.
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I'M SORRY. WHEN YOU PUT THE GUYS TO THE GUIDES TOGETHER, IS IT BASED ON THE QUARTER OR SEASON? OKAY. YES. NOW THERE'S A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER AS WELL.THE POLLS. SO WE'VE GOT MONTHLY AND WE HAVE SEASONAL.
SO THAT'S SO ALL THAT SOME OF IT OF COURSE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IS REDUNDANT INFORMATION.
YOU GET THE SAME INFORMATION FROM ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THAT SEASON.
BUT THE YOUR MONTHLY NEWSLETTER I MEAN IS EVERYTHING.
THAT'S ALL THE ACTIVITIES AND SO FORTH FOR THAT MONTH SPECIFIC VERSUS THAT SEASON OF THAT SUMMER, SPRING, FALL, WINTER. DO WE EVER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MESSAGING BOARD RIGHT HERE ON CITY PROPERTY THAT SO THAT MESSAGING BOARD THE THAT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BUT IT IS SPECIFIC.
IT'S IT'S NOT CAPABLE OF PRINTING LIKE DIGITAL COPIES AND STUFF LIKE THIS.
IT'S, IT'S ONLY JUST SIMPLE LETTERS. THAT'S ALL IT CAN BE.
AND TO EXPAND ON THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A SIGNAGE ORDINANCE ON WHAT IS ON EVEN ON 380 THAT TEX DOT OWNS THE 380. AND WE CAN'T HAVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SPECIAL PERMITTING AND SO FORTH OF WHAT CAN BE AND CAN'T BE PUT ON.
THAT'S THE REASON IT'S STATIONARY OUT THERE, JUST AS PRINCETON TEXAS.
SO WE CAN'T CHANGE THE MESSAGE THAT'S ON IT. CORRECT.
NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. DID WE HAVE A CERTAIN BUDGET TOWARDS SOCIAL MEDIA ADS FOR THIS QUARTER? THAT'S THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE I'M NOT SURE WHAT MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS HANDLE THEY HANDLE ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOW THEY RUN THEIR ADS.
THEY HAVE A BUDGET, BUT I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS OR WHAT IT ISN'T.
ARE WE ABLE TO GET A REPORT ON HOW MUCH WAS ALLOCATED TOWARDS PARKS AND REC IN ADS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA? JUST I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA IS ADS ARE MORE VALUABLE NOWADAYS.
LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, DIGITAL IS THE WAY TO GO.
AND I THINK IF IT'S ALLOCATED CORRECTLY TOWARDS THAT AD, I THINK MORE PEOPLE WOULD SEE THESE DIGITAL ADVERTISEMENTS THAT THEY'RE POSSIBLY MISSING. I CAN SAY THAT THEY RUN ADS AND SO FORTH.
IT'S ALL ACTIVITIES FOR THE CITY. SO WHATEVER ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE COMING UP, MARKETING COMMUNICATION PUSHES THAT OUT THERE TO ALL AVENUES ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY, OH, WE'RE ALLOCATING X AMOUNT TO PARKS AND REC.
NO, IT'S CITY WIDE NO MATTER WHAT DEPARTMENT IT IS.
IT'S JUST ONE OVERALL BUDGET. AND THEY SPECIFY HOW MUCH THEY HAVE IN IN, YOU KNOW, THEIR LINE ITEMS. BUT IT'S, IT'S CITY WIDE, NOT JUST SPECIFIC TO EACH WHO DECIDES WHERE THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED FOR WHAT DEPARTMENT.
ERIN MOODY IS OUR PARKS OR OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING DIRECTOR.
DO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL RECORD OF THE BOOST OR THE IMPROVEMENT BY USING THIS GUIDE, THE QR CODE RATINGS, DO WE HAVE A LIST OF HOW MUCH THE NUMBERS IMPROVED, MAYBE ATTENDANCE WISE, ETC..
WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, FOR INSTANCE, IF IF WE WANT TO START TALKING, HOW ARE WE REACHING OUR RESIDENTS? MR. RODRIGUEZ A YEAR AGO WE HAD 8000 PEOPLE AT FREEDOM AND FIREWORKS.
SOMEHOW THAT WAS OUR LARGEST EVENT EVER. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
AT 8500, WE ALMOST DOUBLED THAT THIS LAST FREEDOM AND FIREWORKS.
AND IF ANYBODY WAS THERE, I THINK YOU CAN VOUCH WITH HOW BUSY THAT WAS, HOW BUSY CALDWELL WAS.
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SO ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH, BUT THE INFORMATION IS GETTING OUT THERE THAT THE GROWTH IS THERE.WE'RE SHOWING DOUBLE, YOU KNOW, 100% GROWTH FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR.
AND THAT'S JUST ON A SPECIAL EVENT SIDE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ON ALL MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION SIDE, BUT THE INFORMATION IS CLEARLY REACHING SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE WANTED TO.
AT SOME POINT, WE JUST HAVE TO DRAW A CAP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
THIS IS WHAT OUR BUDGET IS, AND THIS IS WHERE WE WHERE WE LEAVE IT.
AND JUST IN THIS, JUST MY THOUGHT AND I'M THINKING I'M SHARING THE BOARD'S THOUGHT.
OUR THOUGHT IS, HEY, GREAT. WE INCREASED IT BY 50.
BUT OUR I THINK I KNOW MY THOUGHT IS. AND SOCIAL MEDIA IS GREAT.
AND I HAVE TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE PRINCETON PAGES.
SO SOCIAL MEDIA IS GREAT. PUTTING UP A MESSAGING BOARD FOR EVENTS IS GREAT, BUT I GUESS.
JUST TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER WAYS OF GETTING MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED, MORE PEOPLE KNOWING ABOUT IT, MORE PEOPLE COMING. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT BUDGET AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO PAPER, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO. PARTNERING WITH BUSINESSES, PARTNERING WITH APARTMENT COMPLEXES, PUTTING ANNOUNCEMENTS WITH THEM.
AND, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.
PEOPLE SEE IT IF THEY WANT TO SEE IT, BUT DOESN'T ALWAYS APPEAR.
I MEAN, THAT IS THEIR DEPARTMENT. BUT WHAT I ALSO WOULD, YOU KNOW, WRITE DOWN THE QUESTIONS ON HOW EACH INDIVIDUAL FEELS LIKE THIS BOARD MEMBER, IF YOU BELIEVE OR IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE AND HOW WE CAN REACH, YOU KNOW, MORE RESIDENTS. BECAUSE FROM THE POLLS AND LOOKING AT THE DATA, WE'VE GOT MORE FOLLOWERS THAN EVER. AND I KNOW THAT'S A SOCIAL MEDIA THING, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S NOT ON THE EMAIL LIST.
SO THAT MONTHLY EMAIL THAT'S BEING SENT OUT, THAT'S HONESTLY ONE IN THE SAME, WHETHER YOU'RE SCROLLING ON FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM OR YOU RECEIVE AN EMAIL WITH ALL OF THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION.
I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT HER SCHEDULE IF IT WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE.
BUT I WILL BRING HER A MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS UPDATE TO THIS BOARD.
AND LET HER GIVE THE STATS ON THE INCREASE IN HOW WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THOSE RESIDENTS BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEAK TO HER DEPARTMENT, BUT I CAN SAY THAT YES, OVERALL WE ARE GROWING AND WE ARE REACHING MORE RESIDENTS IN PRINCETON.
AND THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS I CAN REALLY TAKE IT.
SO I WOULD I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF ERIN COULD COME IN, BECAUSE MAYBE WE COULD TALK TO HER ABOUT HAVING JUST A CITY OF PRINCETON GUIDE AND THEN HAVING PARKS AND RECS JUST BE A PORTION OF THAT AND THEN SHE COULD ADVERTISE MAYBE THE REST OF THE STUFF THAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY, LIKE CITY COUNCIL VOTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT STUFF.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT OUR REALM, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST HOW WE FEEL AS BOARD MEMBERS.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, AS MORE OF A COMMUNITY FEEL SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AND EVERYBODY CAN TAKE PART IN IT BEFORE IT HAPPENS. YOU KNOW, BEING INFORMED IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT.
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SO MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP WITH MARKETING COSTS AS FAR AS PARKS AND REC BOARD GOES.SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CARRY THE WHOLE COST. JUST AN IDEA.
AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THE BEST TO CLEAR UP ANY MISCONCEPTIONS THAT ANYBODY MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU. AND THIS DOES SAY CONSIDER. SO DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM? THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING TO ITEM H.4.
2026-054, STRATEGIC BUDGET RETREAT UPDATE REGARDING PARKS AND RECS.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE PARKS BOND UPDATE.
THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL AND MR. RODRIGUEZ, YOU KNOW, YOU SPOKE EARLIER REGARDING THIS IN TERMS OF, HEY, WHERE WE ARE AND LOOKING AT DOLLAR AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED TO THIS KIND OF IDENTIFIES WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR FIRST AND SECOND TRANCHE AND BOND SALE. THIS IDENTIFIES THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSOCIATED TO THE PROJECT AND THE TIMELINE FOR WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. WHAT YOU SEE TODAY.
SO IMAGINE TODAY'S DATE ROUGHLY AS THAT ORANGE LINE IN THE MIDDLE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
CALDWELL PARK PHASE I, WHICH YOU SEE DOWN THERE IN THE PICTURE THAT IS THE FOUR BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, ARTIFICIAL TURF, INFIELD CONVERSIONS. THAT WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED LAST NOVEMBER.
SO THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. CALDWELL PARK PHASE II, THIS IS I'M GOING TO SAY IS NOT AN OUTDATED PICTURE. I MEAN, THEY HAVE THAT NORTH FIELD FULLY COMPLETE WITH TURF NOW.
BUT WHERE THAT LINE IS, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SEPTEMBER COMPLETION FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT $5.3 MILLION. WITH AP TIC COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE JUST ALONE, YOU KNOW, NEARLY THREE, FOUR OR HALF $1 MILLION ON THIS PROJECT WHICH BROKE OUT THE LIGHTS AND THE SYMMETRY ARTIFICIAL TURF VERSUS ALL BEING ROLLED INTO ONE LARGE CONTRACT.
AND THEN THAT SUB, THAT CONTRACTOR FOR THE GC SUBBING OUT TO A LIGHT CONTRACTOR, ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR TO BRING TOGETHER PLUS THEIR MARKUP AND THEIR SAVINGS, WE WERE ABLE TO GO DIRECT AND SPLIT THAT INTO TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS AND TWO DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS.
THE PARKS AND REC ADMIN/MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
SO, GTLC THIS WAS ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO AS FAR AS THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.
HEY, MOVING FORWARD, LOOKING AT. THE DESIGN AND EXECUTING MORE FACILITIES BASEBALL/SOFTBALL FACILITIES FOR THE CITY. THIS PROVIDES THE SPACES NEEDED FOR PARKS AND REC, THE RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S ALSO REVENUE GENERATING BACK INTO THE CITY AND THE DEPARTMENT.
WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING TOURNAMENTS ON WEEKENDS, YOU GET FIELD RENTAL SPACE, PLUS YOU ALSO HAVE ECONOMIC GROWTH FROM SALES TAX, WHICH BRINGS OUTSIDE DOLLARS INTO THE CITY AND HELPS BOOST OUR ECONOMY WITHIN PRINCETON. SO THIS ONE IS A PROJECT THAT NOT ONLY BENEFITS THE RESIDENTS OF PRINCETON, BUT ALSO FINANCIALLY OVERALL FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
OF COURSE PARC, EVERYBODY'S SEEN THIS PROJECT MULTIPLE TIMES.
WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY STARTING THE GROUNDWORK IN Q1, Q1, Q2 OF
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2027. VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, THIS IS KIND OF ACTIVATING THAT DOWNTOWN SPACE REVITALIZING WHAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN.THERE'S ALWAYS DOLLARS SLATED TO THAT PARK. BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOW IS WHERE YOU SEE THAT LINE START DESIGNING THIS PARK. SO THAT WAY WHEN THE SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FROM THE SECOND TRANCHE OF THE 2023 GO BONDS, WE'RE ABLE TO WELL, THE DESIGN WILL BE COMPLETE, THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WILL BE READY FOR PERMITTING.
AND THEN ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS EXECUTE CONSTRUCTION.
J.J "BOOK" WILSON PARK, THIS ONE'S HALFWAY THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE SLATED TO COMPLETE THIS ROUGHLY Q4 OF THIS YEAR.
SO IT'S EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED IN DECEMBER.
NOW, THIS PROJECT ISN'T FUNDED OUT OF OUR GO BONDS.
OKAY. SO THIS IS 5.1 D.R. HORTON CONTRIBUTION.
AND THEN THE 1.4 PARK DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. AND THEN WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN.
ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S ME. YEP. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
SO HAVE YOU. I HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO PROSPER TO GET ONE OF MY PRESCRIPTIONS.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE BALL FIELDS OUT THERE AND THE COVERS? AND JUST, ONE OF THESE DAYS, IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A.
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT FOR GLC BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST AWESOME.
THEY ARE TURF, BUT THE WAY THEY HAVE THINGS COVERED, THE WAY THEY HAVE IT SET OUT AND THINGS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT USE IT WITH THE STANDS AND THE COVER.
JUST A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. REGARDING THE COSTS, AND THIS GOES BACK TO A QUESTION, ROBERT, YOU WERE ASKING EARLIER WITH THE EPT. IS IT POSSIBLE? I MEAN, I LOVE HOW MUCH I LOVE YOUR DESIGN, SHOWING YOUR POWERPOINT, SHOWING HOW MUCH EACH PROJECT IS ALLOCATED.
BUT CAN YOU SHOW US SOMETHING THAT HAS A TIMELINE, HAS THE FUNDS FOR LIKE THE FIRST QUARTER, HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY WAS FIRST QUARTER AND WHAT WAS IT ALLOCATED TO THEN SECOND QUARTER? I THINK THAT'S, ROBERT, YOU CAN CORRECT ME, BUT I JUST MADE A NOTE ABOUT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU WERE.
YES, MA'AM. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR. KIND OF AN ITEMIZED LIST OF WHERE THE MONEY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK FOR IT AS A NEGOTIATION PRICE WITH THE LIGHTS. WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR SEPARATING THAT? WHERE WAS THE ACTUAL SAVINGS COME, COMING FROM? THINGS LIKE THAT CAN SHOW THAT WHERE THE NUMBER WAS GOING TO BE.
BUT I CAN'T REALLY GET ALL INTO THE WEEDS OF HOW MUCH EVERYTHING COSTS.
SPECIFICALLY ON BREAKING DOWN INTO QUARTERS. WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS IF I WAS TO PULL UP GTLC AND IT'S SLATED FOR $18 MILLION, I CAN'T SAY HOW MUCH THAT'S COSTING PER QUARTER BECAUSE WHEN IT GOES OUT FOR RFP, WE'RE GETTING PROGRESSIVE BIDS FROM MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BREAK OUT THEIR COST.
THEY GIVE US AN OVERALL WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION.
IF IT'S WITHIN THAT SCOPE OF WHAT THE WHAT WE HAVE SLATED, AND THEY'RE ONE OF US GOING TO SAY THE LOW BIDS AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, CHECKS OUT WITH ALL OF THEIR REFERENCES AND THEIR PREVIOUS HISTORY.
THAT'S WHO WE GO WITH, THEIR BILLING AND HOW THEY OPERATE.
THAT'S NOT FOR US TO DECIDE TO BREAK OUT EACH INDIVIDUAL COST BETWEEN THE TWO.
LOOKING AT IT OVERALL BASED ON QUARTERS. NOW WHAT WE CAN DO IS WHEN WE SAY, HEY, IT'S SLATED FOR $18 MILLION, WE HAVE THE BASIS OF DESIGN. SO AS A CITY AND THEN EPT COMMERCIAL, IF WE START RUNNING INTO OUR
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ENGINEERING, LOOKING AT THESE UP TO DATE VALUED COSTS AND WE START EXCEEDING THAT 18 MILLION, THEN WE GO BACK TO OUR DESIGN TEAM TO SAY, HEY, WHERE ARE AREAS TO REDUCE THE COST OVERALL VALUE, ENGINEER THESE TO GET THAT DOWN WITHIN OUR SCOPE.BUT AS FAR AS EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM, WE REALLY GET INTO THE WEEDS ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
IT'S THE OVERALL BECAUSE EVEN COUNCIL, COUNCIL BLESSES THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, NOT WHAT IS THIS PLAYGROUND OR WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT WITH THIS? IT'S THE OVERALL. AND THAT THAT'S ABOUT AS, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY AS DETAILED AS I CAN REALLY TAKE IT, BUT GETTING DOWN INTO THE WEEDS REALLY GETS MESSY IF YOU WANT TO START LOOKING INTO EVERYTHING AND THAT'S ON THE, THAT'S ON THE GCS. CHASE, I WOULD IT WOULD THIS.
BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, TELL US WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR WHATEVER THE PROJECT IS, AND THEN MAYBE QUARTERLY, TELL US HOW MUCH YOU'VE ALREADY SPENT AND HOW YOU SPENT IT.
DO WE TRACK QUARTERLY HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE SPENDING PER PROJECT? I MEAN, IS THERE AN ACCOUNTING WHERE IF YOU HAVE $5 MILLION TO SPEND ON, JUST SAY TWO PROJECTS WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY SAYING, THIS QUARTER, WE SPENT THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THIS IS WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE OR COMPLETE OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE PURCHASED THIS EQUIPMENT AND WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF IT BEING INSTALLED BY THIS DATE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS THINK MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AT LEAST GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE SPENT EACH QUARTER. SO IF I MAY ASK, ONCE THESE CONTRACTS ARE EXECUTED BY COUNCIL.
AS FAR AS THE DOLLARS IN THE COMPLETION. WHERE, WHAT WOULD THE BOARD WANT THAT INFORMATION BASED ON EACH QUARTERLY COST ASSOCIATED TO THE PROJECTS? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN WE START GETTING, AND THIS IS JUST TO GIVE SOME DEEPER INFORMATION, A LOT OF YOUR MAJORITY OF YOUR EXPENSE EARLY ON PROCUREMENTS ARE HUGE, WHICH MEANS IF WE'RE BUILDING THIS BUILDING AND I'M GOING TO USE THIS SITE AS A PRIME EXAMPLE, ALL OF THE STEEL AND EARLY ON, CIVIL HAS TO BE PROCURED ON THE FRONT END, WHICH MEANS YOU MAY RUN 25% OF YOUR OVERALL EXPENDITURES IN YOUR FIRST QUARTER, BUT IT'S A TWO YEAR PROCESS BECAUSE THOSE ALL OF THE STEEL AND ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE PROCURED ON THE FRONT END INSTEAD OF THE BACK END. WHAT I THINK IT DOES AS A TAXPAYER IS IT LETS ME KNOW IF YOU ARE STILL WITHIN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS, OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL BOND FOR SOMETHING.
SO I DO THINK IT PROVIDES INSIGHT TO THE TAXPAYER.
IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT THE COST HAS GONE OVER FOR WHATEVER REASON, INFLATION, YOU KNOW, TARIFFS, WHATEVER THE REASON IS, THEN THAT TELLS ME THAT I SHOULD BE EXPECTING ANOTHER BOND TO COME THROUGH SO THAT WE CAN HAVE PROPER FUNDING TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
NOW, THAT'S, TO ME, I'M SURE WE HAVE THE NUMBERS, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE DOING ANYTHING NECESSARILY WITH IT AS A BOARD, BUT IF THE INFORMATION IS PUT OUT THERE ON THE AGENDA AND PEOPLE CAN CLICK ON IT, MAYBE THAT WOULD. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I SEE ONLINE THAT MAKE COMMENTS ON POSTS.
AND YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT PEOPLE BECOMING ACTIVE.
I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTIVE, AS YOU KNOW, ONLINE, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SHOW UP AT ANY OF THE MEETINGS OR ANY OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON. SO I THINK WHEN PEOPLE START, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT, WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING, AND THAT WILL GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND VOICE THEIR SUPPORT OR THEIR CONCERNS.
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AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP ALL OF THE NEGATIVE NELLIES, OF COURSE.SO AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, BECAUSE NO ONE WHO'S PAYING TAXES CAN SAY, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN HOW THE CITY SPENDS THE MONEY. SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THESE TIMELINES, AND I'M GOING TO PULL THIS ONE UP AS A PRIME EXAMPLE, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING EVEN WITH OUR MARKETING COMMUNICATION IS ACTUALLY TRACKING THE FUNDING SOURCE ON THESE TIMELINES THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO GOOGLE DOCS OR GOOGLE SHEETS, WHATEVER.
BUT WHAT I ALSO TO HIT ON THAT POINT, AND THAT IS A VERY GREAT AND VALID POINT.
EVERY, ALL OF THESE CONTRACTORS, WHEN THEY GET INTO THIS, THEY ARE.
SEYMOUR. WHICH MEANS THEY ASSUME ALL RISK. THAT'S THE, THE CONSTRUCTION.
UM. CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. YES. CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT RISK, WHICH MEANS WHEN THEY GIVE THEIR FINAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS IN QUOTES AND MR. BECKY CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO IT, THEY CANNOT EXCEED THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
OR THOSE PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE BONDS ARE PURSUED BY THE CITY.
SO THEY MUST MEET THOSE CONTRACT DOLLAR AMOUNTS, AND THEY HAVE FUNDING AND BACKING BY THEIR BANKS TO ENSURE THAT WE, AS A CITY, GET THE PROJECT IN A HOLE. AND MR. LONG'S RIGHT HERE. I MEAN, HE'S FULLY CAPABLE AND AWARE TO SPEAK OF IT AS WELL FROM A CONSTRUCTION SIDE.
BUT THEY HAVE TO SIGN ALL OF THESE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
THEY GIVE DOLLARS AND THEY MUST MEET THOSE WITHIN THOSE CONTRACTS.
THERE'S TWO CATEGORIES. USUALLY IT'S A COMMITMENT LIKE YOU'VE COMMITTED TO SPEND X ON CONTRACTS.
SO YOU'VE GOT A CONTRACT FOR A MILLION TO A CONTRACTOR AND THEN MONTHLY PROGRESS BILLINGS COME THROUGH, WHETHER ITEMIZING MASONRY AND CONCRETE AND UTILITIES.
AND IT'S LIKE USUALLY 30 LINE ITEMS BY CONSTRUCTION DIVISION.
THE CSI CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICATION, IT'S A VERY STANDARDIZED AI PAY APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO WE HAVE ALL THAT ITEMIZED BILLING. THERE'S TWO CATEGORIES WITHIN THAT PAY APPLICATION.
IT'S COMPLETE AND STORED TO DATE. AND THERE'S STORED MATERIALS.
SO IF IT'S IN A BONDED WAREHOUSE AND LIKE CHASE SAID, THEY'VE ORDERED MATERIALS THAT ARE LONG LEAD, THEY'RE IN A WAREHOUSE, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE AND THEY CAN LEGALLY BILL FOR THOSE MATERIALS AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT YOUR LIGHT FIXTURES. THEY'RE OVER HERE.
HERE'S PICTURES OF THEM. THAT'S YOUR HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN LIGHT FIXTURES. WE'VE GOT THEM.
THEY'RE SITTING HERE. WE'RE GOING TO BILL FOR THOSE. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE READY TO INSTALL.
THEY'LL SAY 54% COMPLETE TO DATE. WITH, LIKE CHASE SAID, THERE'S A VARIETY OF CONTRACTS, SO THE DESIGN MIGHT BE 99% COMPLETE ON THEIR LINE. AND THEN THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, 54% COMPLETE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A VARIETY OF SUBCONTRACTORS.
SO DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF GRANULARITY, LIKE CHASE SAYS, WE CAN KIND OF KEEP A LITTLE HIGH LEVEL AS IT RELATES TO THE RESIDENTS OF LIKE, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO GET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LIKE EVERY SINGLE BRICK INSTALLED, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO COMMUNICATE, HEY, THIS PROJECT IS $5 MILLION. WE'VE COMMITTED 4.5 MILLION.
AND WE'VE, TO DATE, WE'VE SPENT, SPENT TO DATE LIKE DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR, WE'VE SPENT 25% PROJECTS, 35% COMPLETE. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME HIGH LEVEL METRICS THAT I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY DEVELOP THAT DON'T CREATE ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD.
I THINK TO DO LIKE A QUARTERLY SPEND OF LIKE, HOW MUCH DID YOU SPEND ON MASONRY IN QUARTER ONE VERSUS QUARTER THREE? THAT GETS KIND OF CUMBERSOME, BUT THERE'S A MONTHLY BILLING AND WHETHER THAT'S UPDATED MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY, WE CAN, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A NUMBER THAT CREATES A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBILITY THAT DOESN'T ENCUMBER EVERYBODY WITH SO MUCH DETAIL PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHAT ARE WE EVEN LOOKING AT? JERRY, GO AHEAD AND THEN I'LL.
YEAH. WELL MY QUESTION WAS FOR CHASE AND EVEN MR. LONG, YOU CAN ANSWER AS WELL. SO AS A BOARD, WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE ANY TYPE OF BUDGET, THAT'S COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZATION AS WELL. WHAT, COUNCIL APPROVES THE BUDGET, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. BUT THIS IS ASSOCIATED TO BUDGETARY EXPENSES.
BUT ALL BUDGET ITEMS AND EXPENDITURES DO GO THROUGH COUNCIL.
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THEY NECESSARILY DO NOT HAVE TO COME THROUGH THIS BOARD BUT IN LIEU OF TRANSPARENCY, I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE BOARD, HEY, WHAT THESE CONTRACTS ARE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A WHOLE.BUT WHEN WE START REALLY DIVING DOWN AND START GETTING INTO DETAILED SPECIFICS, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IT'S AS MR. BECKY SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE TOO DIFFICULT AND TIME CONSUMING TO BREAK EVERYTHING DOWN.
BUT TO SHOW THE TIMELINE AND KIND OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR EXPENDITURES VERSUS PERCENTAGE, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. IT'LL BE AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND NOT INTO THE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BE A MORE OF A MACRO, NOT INTO THE MICRO, BUT I BELIEVE 100% WE CAN SHOW YOU SOMETHING.
IT'S JUST AS HE MENTIONED, HEY, HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND ON BRICK AND HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND ON MASONRY THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE, THAT'S GOING TO BE TOO DETAILED, THAT IS REALLY NOT FEASIBLE.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE INTO THE WEEDS THAT MUCH, JUST A LITTLE OVERSIGHT.
THIS MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HOW MUCH YOU PAID THE, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEE STANDING OUT THERE DIGGING THE HOLE.
NO, WE DON'T NEED THAT. BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'VE GOT $2.5 MILLION TO SPEND, HOW ELSE MIGHT $2.5 MILLION BEING SPENT? IS. WHAT WOULD THE BOARD THINK, LET'S JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THIS CHART.
AND I KNOW THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE ONE. WHAT WOULD THE BOARD THINK. SO, AND LET ME SEE, PROBABLY MAYBE A LITTLE BIT EASIER WHEN I'M GOING TO OKAY, LET'S USE THIS ONE. WE'RE HERE. WE PUSHED THROUGH FOR THE YELLOW IS THE DESIGN PHASE.
SO WE'RE TALKING SIX OR YEAR LONG TO DESIGN. BUT ONCE WE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION, $4 MILLION IS A BASIS OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO START Q1 OF 2028.
THAT'S JUST THE A DART THROWN ON A MAP. BUT THEORETICALLY WE COULD START JANUARY OF 2028, OKAY.
IF WE'RE SAYING $4 MILLION. I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS START SHOWING, LIKE IN Q2, HOW MUCH WE SPENT AND JUST PUT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WITH THE BILLING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN OVERALL FOR THOSE FIRST THREE MONTHS.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON THAT TIMELINE, HEY, WE'VE SPENT $1.6 MILLION FROM Q1.
WELL, A LOT OF THAT, AS WE JUST MENTIONED, MAYBE SOME OF THOSE EARLY ON LEADS THOSE PROCUREMENTS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH MEANS Q2 AND Q3 MAY NOT EXCEED, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT 50%.
AND WHAT WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO, WOULD THAT BE, WOULD THAT SUFFICE AS FAR AS KIND OF IDENTIFYING THIS MAP AND JUST SHOWING IT IN THAT TIMELINE. YES, AND I THINK JUST LIKE MR. BECKY SAID, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS THE TIMELINE, WHAT IT WAS AND THIS MUCH COMPLETED. THAT'S PERFECT. YEAH.
MR.. BECKY, HOW OFTEN DOES EPT RECEIVE REPORTS, FINANCIAL REPORTS ON WHAT'S BEING SPENT? IS IT WEEKLY? BI WEEKLY? MONTHLY. SO ANYBODY WITH A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, USUALLY INVOICES MONTHLY MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE THE FIRST OF THE MONTH, BUT USUALLY IT'S THE FIRST WEEK OF THE FOLLOWING MONTH FOR, YOU KNOW, SAY, SEPTEMBER.
AN INVOICE YOU RECEIVE IN SEPTEMBER IS FOR LIKE AUGUST 1ST THROUGH AUGUST 31ST.
AND IN THAT MONTHLY INVOICE, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SPENT, WHAT WAS CURRENTLY SPENT, AND WHAT'S REMAINING TO BE SPENT ON EACH CONTRACT.
LIKE THEY OR MAKING SURE THEY'RE NOT INVOICING AT 100% FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY 50%.
AND THEN ON THE COMMITTED SIDE, IT MAY OR MAY NOT MAKE SENSE THAT YOU'VE GOT $1 MILLION CONTRACT, BUT YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, SPENT X TOWARDS IT. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THERE'S PROBABLY VALUE IN SAYING, HEY, WE'VE GOT A $4 MILLION PARK AND WE'VE SPENT 150,000 IN DESIGN THAT SHOWCASES THAT YOU'VE MADE PROGRESS.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE ALL, ALL THE RESIDENTS VOTED ON THAT MONEY.
AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY IT'S MY MONEY YOU'RE SPENDING BECAUSE I VOTED TO GIVE YOU THAT MONEY.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE MY MONEY IS GOING. FOR SURE, YEAH.
I THINK YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY ON THE ANTICIPATED CASH FLOW.
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LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND IT ALL THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. I THINK THERE'S A GOOD THERE'S AN EASY WAY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS. AND MAYBE THAT'S A.YOU SAID THE KEY WORD TRANSPARENCY. YEAH, THAT'S THE GOAL.
JUST ONE OF MY LAST ONE LAST THING. JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN NEGOTIATIONS HAPPEN, IT GOES THROUGH EPT ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED THROUGH THERE IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL TO GET APPROVED. COUNCIL HAS NO SAY IN NEGOTIATIONS OR WHAT'S BEING NEGOTIATED.
WHAT ITEMS ARE BEING ON THAT BUDGET FOR THAT PARTICULAR MONTH OR QUARTER, ETC..
SO IT'S REALLY A JOINT WE'LL CALL IT ACQUISITION PROCESS.
PURCHASING RUNS IT THROUGH ALL THE MANDATED PROTOCOLS TO BE FULLY COMPLIANT.
WE'RE ON OUR END IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT SCOPE IS FULLY DEVELOPED.
SO THERE'S NO SCOPE GAPS, BUT AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC ADVERTISEMENTS AND ALL THAT, IT'S GOING THROUGH THE CITY OF PRINCETON, THOSE BIDS ARE RECEIVED, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE HAVING A MATRIX THAT OUT AND REALLY INTERPOLATE, IF YOU WILL, THE BEST VALUE, AND THEN MAKE THE SUGGESTION TO PARKS AND ULTIMATELY TO COUNCIL IF THIS IS THE BEST VALUE BASED ON TEAM EXPERIENCE, PRICE, PROJECT PROFILE AND MAKING THAT SELECTION WITH THAT, IT'S USUALLY A MATRIX AND ALWAYS IS A KIND OF A RANKING OF CATEGORIES. SO IT'LL SHOW THAT HEY, MAYBE THIS VENDOR IS NUMBER TWO IN PRICING, BUT THEIR TEAM AND THEIR APPROACH AND THEIR SCHEDULE IS THE MOST REALISTIC. SO IN THAT HIERARCHY, MAYBE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, .6, YOU KNOW, IT, IT HIERARCHIES ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE SCORED NUMBER ONE PER SE.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A PROCESS THAT IS CONSISTENT FOR ALL THOSE AWARDS.
THAT COULD BE SOME GREAT INFORMATION ADDED ON TO THAT REPORT TO JUST SOLIDIFY, HEY, THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY WE CHOSE THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR, WHY WE DECIDED TO SPLIT THIS NEGOTIATION WITH THE LIGHTING COMPANY AND THEN THE FIELDS, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENCY TOWARDS EVERYTHING.
JUST IT'S NOT JUST $4 MILLION IS HERE. SURE, YEAH.
I MEAN, WE CAN GET SUPER SPECIFIC, HEY, WE SAY X 350,000 ON LIGHTING AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE A LONG LIST OF LIKE, HEY, HERE'S THE DOLLARS WE'VE SAVED. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS TOO MUCH INFORMATION AND HOW MUCH IS NOT ENOUGH.
SO IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE. YEAH, I THINK RECENTLY WE RECEIVED 158 PAGES OF A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE WERE KIND OF LEFT SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS AS WELL. YEAH. SO I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, NOT ABOUT THE BUDGET, BUT, UM, THE QUARTERS, ARE THEY, DO THEY START IN JANUARY, LIKE QUARTER ONE STARTS IN JANUARY.
WHEN, WHEN ARE THE QUARTERS? BECAUSE I KNOW AT MY JOB QUARTER ONE STARTS IN JULY.
I'M SORRY. CAN YOU LIKE I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION ON.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THIS OUT THERE FOR THE BOARD.
I'M ACTUALLY DEAF. AND I KNOW YOU'RE, I AM. AND I WEAR A HEARING ASSIST, BUT I CAN'T HEAR BECAUSE OF THAT RIGHT THERE AND EVERYTHING MUFFLED AND ECHO.
BUT IF, IF YOU'RE AWAY, I CAN'T HEAR. SO I APOLOGIZE.
IT'S OKAY. BUT I'M, I'M TRYING. THAT'S WHY I'M ALWAYS LOOKING UP, TRYING TO READ LIPS, SO.
I READJUSTED THE MIC, IT WAS FURTHER AWAY FROM ME.
SO QUARTERS IS JUST SOMETHING I WANTED THE CLARIFICATION ON WHEN THE QUARTERS FOR THE YEAR.
I THAT'S ALL I NEED. SO BASED ON TIMELINES, WHAT WE DO WITH THESE Q1 IS ACTUALLY CALENDAR YEAR.
NOW OUR BUDGET YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE NOT WHEN WE'RE TALKING THESE FUNDS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT BUDGET YEAR, WHICH IS OCTOBER THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH.
WE'RE LOOKING AT JANUARY TO DECEMBER 31ST. OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS THROWING ME OFF BECAUSE I'M USED TO BUDGET YEAR QUARTERS.
AND JUST ANOTHER RANDOM QUESTION FOR THE PARKS AND THE OTHER PLACES THAT YOU PUT ON HERE.
I KNOW YOU SAID, I THINK BEFORE YOU SAID JIM CALDWELL, THERE WILL BE SPACES FOR FOOD TRUCKS.
IS THAT THE SAME WITH THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK AND ALL THESE OTHER PARKS GTLC AND EVERYTHING.
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MAIN STREET MARKET LOOKING AT A, I'M GOING TO SAY, AN INITIATIVE WORKING WITH THE EDC ON THE COTTON OLD COTTON GIN, CREATING OPEN SPACE FOR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK SO WE CAN RUN, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS DOWNTOWN, KIND OF REVITALIZING THOSE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING A DOWNTOWN SPACE.JJ BOOK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PARK AN AREA FOR FOOD TRUCKS THAT IS DESIGNATED.
IT'S ALSO ACTS AS A DROP OFF AND PICK UP, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE TURNAROUND.
IF I COULD POINT TO IT, I WOULD. BUT YOU KNOW, KIND OF BY THAT BASKETBALL COURT.
SO WHEN WE'RE RUNNING ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS, WE CAN HAVE FOOD TRUCKS PARKED IN THAT LOCATION.
THE SAME WITH CALDWELL PARK. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING THESE NEW SPACES AND BUILDING THESE NEW PARKS, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY IDEAS THAT WE ALWAYS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WHAT BETTER THAN BETTER WAY THAN WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING ACTIVITIES OR RUNNING SPECIAL EVENTS AT IT THAN HAVING SOME FOOD VENDORS. YOU KNOW, AT THOSE EVENTS, THEY ONLY HELP, YOU KNOW, ACTIVATE THE SPACE AND THE SAME, EVEN JUST FOR ON A LOCAL DAY, YOU KNOW, A HOT DAY WHEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WANT TO BE AT THE PARK, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ICE CREAM TRUCK OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE SNOW CONES, YOU KNOW, THE POSSIBILITIES ARE LITERALLY UNLIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. THANK YOU.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF THE SUBJECT, BUT I'VE SEEN THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN REALLY ANY UPDATES ON LIKE A SENIOR FACILITY.
CAN WE LOOK BRING THAT BACK AND LOOK AT SOMETHING REGARDING, YOU KNOW, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A SENIOR FACILITY? I'LL BRING THAT BACK. IT KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE DIRECTION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO COUNCIL.
WHEN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS GOING INTO DESIGN, IS THE CITY GOING TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO CHIME IN? THE PUBLIC GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE SUGGEST A FEW THINGS OR, OR HOW IS THE DESIGN GOING TO GO ABOUT? ALL RIGHT, MR. RODRIGUEZ. SO I BRING THESE TO THIS BOARD MONTHLY AND GET THE BOARD'S FEEDBACK ON THE BASIS OF DESIGN. SO THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PUSHING THROUGH AND I'M GOING TO SAY CALDWELL PHASE TWO OR PHASE THREE, THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE BOARD SEVERAL TIMES, AND IT'S CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND, YOU KNOW, MIGRATING INTO WHAT THAT PARK IS NOW, WE HAVE A BASIS OF DESIGN AND WE'RE RUNNING INTO THE CONTRACTOR, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION SETS. AND THEN WE GIVE AN OVERALL, I'LL GIVE A, YOU KNOW, UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF IN THE BLACK AND WHITES, THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET THE CONCEPT AND THEN YOU RUN INTO THE SCHEMATIC, ONCE YOU GET INTO THAT, THEN YOU START RUNNING.
YOU KNOW, THE NEXT PHASE IS YOUR ENGINEERING SETS.
BUT AS FAR AS BASIS OF DESIGN, I'VE BEEN BRINGING THESE, THIS INFORMATION BACK TO THIS BOARD, GETTING THAT FEEDBACK. THAT WAY IT'S INCORPORATED AND RELAYED TO OUR ARCHITECT TEAM, MAKING THESE CHANGES AS WE GO.
AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE COME TO OUR FINAL PRODUCT, WHICH CALDWELL PHASE III WE HAVE LANDED.
I THINK EVERYBODY ON THIS ON THE BOARD HAS SEEN PHASE III IN THE PAST.
YOU WILL SEE THE MOST UPDATED RENDERINGS, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHERE WE WERE.
BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AND THAT'S HOW THE WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN.
JUST ONE, ONE OTHER THING REGARDING VETERANS, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND CHASE, I KNOW YOU WERE AT THE MEETING, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, LISTEN TO THE LAST CDC MEETING WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT CHIEF WATERS, ACTING CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND HIS
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IDEA, SO. THANK YOU, MISS ELLIS, BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY WOULD CLEAR UP SOME DIRECTION.SO JUST IF YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, TAKE A, YOU DON'T NEED TO LISTEN TO THE WHOLE MEETING.
JUST GO TO WHERE HE DID HIS PRESENTATION AND YOU'LL BE VERY PLEASED.
THANK YOU. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE FOR VETERANS PARK? I JUST. SO THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT. OKAY, SO PLEASE DON'T.
WHAT YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS WE HAVE. ONCE WE START GETTING INTO AN ACTUAL DETAILED CONCEPT, THIS IS JUST HEY, THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT CAN BE.
THERE WAS THE IDEA OF BRINGING THE WATER TOWER FROM CALDWELL PARK, BECAUSE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK IS THE HISTORY OF PRINCETON, BUT KIND OF MIGRATING IT. WE LOOKED AT A VETERANS MEMORIAL TRAIL COMING UP YORKSHIRE AND ENDING INTO WHAT IS THE COTTON GIN, REVITALIZING THE COTTON GIN INTO AN OPEN MARKET PLACE, AND THEN BUILDING THIS PARK AROUND IT TO TIE EVERYTHING TOGETHER. SO YOU CREATE AN OPEN SPACE, COMMON GREEN, SO YOU WE CAN HAVE WEEKLY MARKETS OR MONTHLY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THOSE MAY LOOK LIKE ACTIVITIES, EVENTS DOWNTOWN TO, YOU KNOW, RE-ENERGIZE THAT DOWNTOWN SPACE AND THOSE BUSINESSES.
BUT WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, TOOK INTO AND STILL TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION IF IT'S FEASIBLE TO MOVE THE WATER TOWER DOWN THERE, BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC VALUE TO PRINCETON.
BUT INSTEAD OF JUST LEAVING IT UP AT CALDWELL AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, BITS AND PIECES OF THE HISTORY, BRINGING IT ALL DOWNTOWN WITH THE WOODY WILSON MEMORIAL INCORPORATED IN IT.
WE HAVE THE MONUMENTS THAT ARE DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE OLD HISTORIC WALL THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE KIND OF USING THOSE SAME BRICKS AND STONES, YOU KNOW, TO REPURPOSE THEM AND BUILD THEM INTO A NEW MONUMENT.
SO ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE DESIGN PHASE OF THIS PARK DIRECTLY, KIND OF CREATING IT MORE OF A HISTORIC PARK AND NOT JUST A PLAY AND ACTIVE AND PLAYGROUND AND EVERYTHING ELSE, MAKING IT MORE OF A MONUMENT AND OPEN SPACE THAT INCORPORATES THAT MAIN STREET DOWNTOWN SPACE.
AND THIS BOARD WILL HAVE FULL INPUT ONCE WE START GETTING INTO DESIGN.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. SO THE DESIGN STUFF SHOULD BE COMING TO US SOON BECAUSE IT SAYS.
YEAH, SO SHORTLY. THANK YOU. YES, THIS BOARD WILL.
AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, YOU KIND OF SEE OPEN PAVILION.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY. AN AMPHITHEATER OF SOME SORT.
AND WHEN WE SAY AMPHITHEATER, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A LARGE PAVILION WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A SMALL BAND OR SOMETHING TO COME OUT AND PLAY ON A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND STILL ACTIVATE THAT SPACE. WE'RE CREATING A PARKS AND REC BAND.
ARE YOU THE LEAD SINGER? NO, I'M. I'M ON. HECK YEAH, I MEAN.
I THINK THIS CONCEPT IS GREAT. MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE I CAN SEE THIS GROWING TO SOMETHING BIG.
AND SO MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD WILL BE PARKING.
AND BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TRANSITION TO AND FROM THIS LOCATION.
BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T BEGAN TO DESIGN PHASE AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THAT.
IT'S JUST, I JUST WANT JUST LOOKING AT THIS, THAT MY ONLY CONCERN RIGHT NOW.
AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE START LOOKING INTO WHEN WE GET INTO THE DESIGN AND THE ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S SHOWING THE ROAD ON BOTH SIDES, BUT YOU KNOW, WOODY DRIVE MAY, YOU KNOW, RUN INTO SOME HORIZONTAL OR THE SLANTED PARKING TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE, ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING.
PLUS WHAT IS THE FOOTPRINT AND WHERE CAN WE PULL FROM INCORPORATING THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY? OKAY. MOVING TO ITEM H.5. 2026-055 THE PARK BOND TOUR UPDATE.
I'LL LET HER SPEAK. I'LL TURN OVER THE MIC AND LET HER AND, YOU KNOW, MR. LONG YOU KNOW, VISITED THESE SITES, AND I'LL LET HER SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE THOUGHT AND WHAT SHE SAW ON THE PROGRESS.
IT WAS A GREAT TOUR. AND AGAIN, CHASE, MEGAN, YOUR TEAM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TAKE US,
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MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER LONG WE GOT THERE WAS ONLY ONE PART OF IT THAT I DIDN'T GET TO GO TO BECAUSE I HAD TO GET BACK FOR WORK, BUT THAT WAS THEIR LITTLE STORAGE, MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE AREA THAT THEY USE NOW, RIGHT? SO I THINK BEN, BUT THE SKATE PARK, THE JM CALDWELL THEY'RE BUILDING AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THEIR BUILDING.I'M ASSUMING THE BOARD WILL GET TO USE THE EXERCISE EQUIPMENT.
JUST KIDDING. NO, THANK YOU TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR TAKING US ON THIS TOUR.
BUT MY FAVORITE PART IS, IS THE MAINTENANCE, THE NEW BUILDING, RIGHT, FOR PARKS DEPARTMENT TO HAVE IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR OFFICE AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE MAINTENANCE. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I LEARNED WHERE THE MAINTENANCE IS CURRENTLY AND IT'S IN THAT STEEL BUILDING IN THE BACK CORNER OF CALDWELL AND THERE'S NO AIR CONDITIONING, THERE'S NO BATHROOM.
THEY HAVE TO USE THE PUBLIC RESTROOM AT THE PARK.
SO AND THE BIGGEST EYE OPENER IS WE WENT INSIDE THE BUILDING AND THEY HAVE SO MANY PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO SHUFFLE THEM INTO THE BUILDING TO STORE THEM, AND THEN SOME ARE ACTUALLY STORED OUTSIDE.
SO HAVING THIS NEW BUILDING YOU KNOW, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE LIFE THAT MUCH EASIER FOR OUR TEAMS. AND IT'S GOING TO ALSO PROLONG THE EQUIPMENT TOO, BECAUSE IT'LL BE PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THEY CAN ONLY PROTECT SO MUCH IN THAT SMALL BUILDING.
SO IT'S A REALLY NEAT TOUR. I SAW THE SKATE PARK AND THE, THE.
HOW DEEP DID THEY DIG? 20 SOMETHING FEET DOWN TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE PROPER FOUNDATION.
AS WE ALL KNOW HERE IN PRINCETON, FOUNDATIONS ARE A TOUCHY SUBJECT.
SO A SKATE PARK IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND SO IS NATE SEEING THE FOUNDATION, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BELOW THE CONCRETE AND THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL THAT CONTRACTOR IS DOING THERE. SO AND ME, I'M MR. SAFETY MAN IN MY PROFESSION. AND SO IS NATE GOING AROUND SEEING, YOU KNOW, SAFE JOB SITES TO SO THE CONTRACTORS THEY'VE SELECTED THAT ARE DOING THE JOBS ARE TRUE PROFESSIONAL COMPANIES.
AND SO BREATH OF FRESH AIR TO SEE ALL THESE THINGS COME TO ACTUAL FRUITION, SO.
BEN AND I WERE OUT THERE WITH OUR HARD HATS AND OUR SAFETY VESTS BUT AT THE SKATE PARK AND I JUST SENT MY PHONE DOWN FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. IT WAS THE BIG DEEP BOWL THAT JUST THE WHOLE PARK IS AWESOME, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE THE COLORS THAT THEY'RE USING FOR IT. ARE IS GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, FOR THE KIDS, BUT IT'S NOT JUST FOR SKATEBOARDING.
THERE'S GOING TO BE LIKE CHASE SAID THE CIRCLE FOR THE FOOD TRUCK, THERE'S SOME PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND THERE'S BASKETBALL COURT, CORRECT ME THERE ALSO. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES TO GO AND ENJOY AT THAT PARK. AT CALDWELL, THE TURF THAT WAS LAID FOR THE BALL FIELDS.
I MEAN IT LOOKS GREAT. AND THEIR FACILITY. I MEAN, THERE'S A MOTHER'S ROOM AT THE FACILITY.
THE ROOMS FOR TORNADO SAFETY, THOSE ARE PRETTY LARGE.
I CAN'T, I DON'T RECALL HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD FIT IN IT, BUT IT'S LARGE ENOUGH FOR CITY STAFF, PLUS 200 PEOPLE IN EACH SIDE OR JUST ALTOGETHER.
IT'S REALLY OVERALL, IT'S ROUGHLY A LITTLE OVER, YOU KNOW, 200 PEOPLE CAN FIT IN THERE.
BUT IF A TORNADO IS COMING AND THERE'S 400 PEOPLE OUT THERE, THEN 400 PEOPLE ARE SCREAMING, YOU KNOW, COMING INSIDE OF THE STORM SHELTER.
AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO ALL BE VERY FRIENDLY WITH ONE ANOTHER.
BUT YES, THAT'S, YOU KNOW THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
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THEY EVEN HAVE NOW AND I DON'T AGAIN, I DIDN'T GET TO SEE YOUR OTHER MAINTENANCE AREA, BUT IN THE NEW FACILITY, THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY KEEP MORE THAN JUST A MONTH AT A TIME OF HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, BECAUSE FOR ONE THING, CHEMICALS AND THAT THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, PESTICIDE.INSTEAD OF JUST BUYING A MONTH AT A TIME, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BUY A FEW MONTHS AT A TIME.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, JUST GOING TO SAM'S OR COSTCO, RIGHT? YOU BUY LARGER IN BULK, YOU GET A BETTER PRICE.
SO EVERYTHING, I MEAN, IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND I HOPE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN A FEW MONTHS, WE CAN, ONCE WE GET FURTHER ALONG, WE CAN DO IT AGAIN.
YEAH, SO THE NEXT THING WILL PROBABLY BE A RIBBON CUTTING. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE AND A TOUR AT THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT, OR YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO SCHEDULE A, AN OPEN HOUSE ONCE THE FACILITY IS ESTABLISHED AND OPEN, BECAUSE THAT'S COMING UP WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
SO I THINK THAT'LL BE THE NEXT STEP FOR THAT, FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO ADD WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TOURS, WE'VE HAD A PARTNERSHIP WITH PRINCETON ISD.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE'VE GOT GOOD DIALOG GOING.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THOSE STUDENTS OVER HERE THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF UNDERSTANDING THE BASIC MECHANICALS AND STRUCTURE AND REALLY GET THEM OVER THERE AND LET THEM SEE IT IN THE FIELD. SO THAT'S BEEN OUR AGENDA. WE TRIED IT RIGHT BEFORE THE SPRING BROKE FOR SUMMER, BUT THEY WERE JUST TOO BUSY WITH ANOTHER PROJECT. SO THIS FALL, THAT'S REALLY A WITH THE EXCITEMENT, WITH THE ALL TOURING, THE STUDENTS ARE EQUALLY EXCITED.
WE'RE HAVING THAT. SO JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S AN ONGOING PARTNERSHIP.
AND THAT'S PART OF THIS PROGRAM AS WELL, THAT EVERYONE CREATES A WIN WIN.
I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. OKAY, GREAT. THAT'S GOOD.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND ONE OTHER THING, AND I RECOMMEND IT WAS JUST A RECOMMENDATION TO CHASE AT J.J BOOK, THERE'S A FEW BLANK WALLS AND A RECOMMENDATION SUGGESTION WAS MAYBE HAVE SOME OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL ART STUDENTS DO SOME MURALS ON IT. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST THREW IT OUT THERE.
BUT MORE TO GET INVOLVED, PEOPLE INVOLVED. OKAY.
AND JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKS ADMIN BUILDING.
THAT BUILDING IS BIG ENOUGH FOR GROWTH ONCE YOU GET MORE EMPLOYEES.
YEAH. YES, IT IS. SO WE HAVE AT THE CURRENT MOMENT THERE'S SIX OFFICE, BUT THERE'S MULTIPLE ROOMS THAT CAN EXPAND INTO MORE OFFICES AND CUBICLE SPACES.
ALSO, THIS IS REALLY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND OF COURSE, MAINTENANCE.
BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD MORE BUILDINGS AND MORE PARKS, AND I'M GOING TO USE GTLC AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MAINTENANCE BUILDING ON GTLC SITE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR ALL CITIES TO HAVE MAINTENANCE ON SITE FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PARKS. THE SAME WHEN WE GET INTO PARK, THE REC CENTER THAT HAS ITS OWN ADMINISTRATION AND OFFICE MANAGEMENT TEAM DESIGNATED TO THE REC CENTER. SO THAT WILL EXPAND FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK AT THE REC CENTER.
THIS IS REALLY JUST THE MORE SO THE ADMINISTRATION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MISS ELLIS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE FITNESS ROOM.
I THINK WE ALL SEEN THAT FITNESS ROOM ISN'T THAT LARGE, IS IT? SO BUT IT IT HOLDS AS EXPANSION WHEN YOU JUST RUN OUT OF SPACE AND YOU NEED TO EXPAND THAT INTO OFFICES.
THAT'S WHAT THAT AREA IS ACTUALLY WILL BE IDENTIFIED FOR.
SO YOU MOVE FROM THAT SMALL BUILDING INTO THIS ONE.
THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND MOVING TO ITEM H.6. 2026-056. CONSIDER APPROVING REQUEST FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND NOT FOR DISCUSSION OF THESE
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REQUESTS. I DO HAVE A REQUEST IF CAN WE GET COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AT THE NEXT OR MEETING AFTER WHENEVER HE'S AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK PROGRAM THAT WANTED IMPLEMENTED THROUGH US, SO WE CAN HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, ON HOW TO, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.SO I DO HAVE AN EMAIL FROM HIM REGARDING THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, I HAD REQUESTED THAT WE MIGHT ALSO WANT TO MAYBE ASK CHIEF WATERS TO JOIN WITH THAT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID OF HIS PRESENTATION, HIS PRESENTATION WASN'T JUST REGARDING THE COTTON GIN.
HIS PRESENTATION WAS ON AN ENTIRE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
OKAY. SO WE COULD MAYBE ASK FOR BOTH OF THAT.
YEAH. I'LL INCORPORATE AND BRING SOMETHING BACK.
COULD, AND THIS GOES WITH MR. RODRIGUEZ'S QUESTIONS EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT PARKS AND THAT COULD WE GET MORE INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT'S AT WHITE WING TRAILS AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE? BECAUSE TO BE HONEST, I NEVER KNEW THAT THE CITY USED WHITE WING TRAILS FOR ANYTHING.
SO IF WE COULD GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THANK YOU. AND FOR CLARIFICATION, WE OWN THE THOSE FACILITIES AT WHITE WING, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN AGENDA ITEM TO ESTABLISH A QUARTERLY PARKS BOND OPERATIONAL REPORT COVERING THE BUDGET, HELPING EVERYONE JUST UNDERSTAND THE COST, THE SCHEDULE, THE OPERATING PLAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD FOR THE NEXT MEETING IF WE COULD SPEAK ABOUT SURVEYS FOR POST POST SEASONAL SURVEYS FOR THE SPORTS PROGRAMS SO THAT WE CAN GET INPUT FROM THE PARENTS AND FAMILIES WHO HAVE PLAYED THE SPORTS JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN.
WELL, I HAVE BEEN SEEING SOME COMPLAINTS, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE COMPLAINTS, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE IF THESE COMPLAINTS ARE CONSISTENT AND WHAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON, AND ALSO WHAT HAS BEEN GOING GOOD AND WHAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE IN THE FUTURE.
CHASE, YOU ALREADY SAID THAT YOU WOULD BRING BACK AN UPDATE ON THE SENIOR FACILITY.
BUT I HAD A QUESTION WITH REGARD ALSO TO THE WHITE WING THAT YOU GUYS WERE JUST ASKING ABOUT.
I'LL BRING INFORMATION BACK. I CAN'T SPEAK ON IT IN THIS, BUT I WILL BRING BACK ALL THE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE WHITE WING PROPERTY WHICH IS A CITY PROPERTY. IF YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT.
[I. REPORT AGENDA]
AUGUST 10TH. THE NEXT P&Z MEETING, MONDAY, AUGUST 17TH.THE NEXT EDC MEETING IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 18TH.
AND OUR MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY PLANNED AFTER THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY, WHICH WOULD BE. NEXT MONTH'S MEETING WILL BE ON WEDNESDAY INSTEAD OF TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 9TH.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS A TYPO. THE LIBRARY BOARD AUGUST 20TH IS ACTUALLY A THURSDAY. OH. RIGHT. 20. MONDAY THE 24TH IS CORRECT, BUT THE LIBRARY BOARD MEETING MONDAY, IT SHOULD EITHER BE THURSDAY, AUGUST 20TH OR.
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OR THE 17TH OR ONE OF THE TWO. RIGHT. THANK YOU.SO THAT IS ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH FOR NEXT MONTH.
AND AGAIN, WE'VE ALL, WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON THIS DATE DUE TO THE HOLIDAYS IN SEPTEMBER, SO.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM. MEETING ADJOURNMENT. CAN I GET A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. I SECOND IT.
OKAY. SOMEBODY'S MISSING AGAIN. ALL RIGHT, MEETING'S ADJOURNED 8:21.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.