Aug 19, 2026 Community Development Corporation

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ALL RIGHTY,

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

MR. THORNTON? PRESENT. MS. MARYLOU PETTIS IS NOT HERE.

MS. HENDERSON? HERE. AND MS. GUERRERO? PRESENT. ALL RIGHTY, IF WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY DO OUR INVOCATION. LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL DAY AS WE GET READY TO START THIS CDC MEETING, GOD. GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU'LL HELP US TO BE ON ONE CORE, ONE MIND, IN THE SAME MINDSET FOR THE CITY, FOR THE COMMUNITY, GOD. GOD, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU TOUCH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US TO HELP US TO DO OUR PART FOR THIS CITY, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR LOVE.

IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. ALL RIGHTY. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ALL RIGHTY, PUBLIC APPEARANCE.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND OR TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS SECTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY.

[F. PUBLIC REPORT ITEMS]

STAFF REPORT ITEMS. WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM JIM. MR. CHAIR, DID YOU SKIP OVER? THERE WAS NOBODY WANTING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU READ IT, BUT I DIDN'T. OH, I APOLOGIZE. SORRY, MOVING FAST.

LET ME GO BACK. PUBLIC APPEARANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND OR TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS SECTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO AN INQUIRY.

MS. CAREY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC APPEARANCE? ALL RIGHT. NOBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC APPEARANCE? NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC REPORT ITEMS. I'VE ALREADY READ THAT ONE, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON

[G. STAFF REPORT ITEMS]

LEAVE IT TO ME TO MESS UP YOUR WHOLE CADENCE.

WHEN I DID ALL THAT, NOBODY WANTED TO SPEAK. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. JUST IN CASE YOU HAD SOMEBODY IN HERE, I GOT IT.

BEFORE WE GET INTO MY REPORT, I JUST WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT ON REGULAR AGENDAS, ITEM J4, I'M GOING TO ASK THE BOARD TO TABLE THAT THIS MONTH UNTIL NEXT MONTH. IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. THEY DID A PRESENTATION LAST MONTH.

FOR THE MOST PART, I SUPPORT THE REQUEST, BUT I WANT TO DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK ON IT AND BRING YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO PARKS AND ALSO POLICE. IT'S NOTHING URGENT, SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, THAT'D BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT, OPERATIONAL REPORT.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS, AND I THINK IT WAS MY FIRST WEEK BACK WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL GRADUATION.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BOARD AND THANKS AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO WORKED SO HARD TO PUT IT ON. THE MAYOR'S APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, A BIG SUCCESS THE FIRST YEAR, HAD SOME INCREDIBLE STUDENTS.

SOME OF THEM MIGHT HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, PARENTS IN THE ROOM, BUT HAD A GREAT YEAR AND A LOT OF, IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR THE COMPANIES, THE BUSINESS IS BRAGGING ON.

THESE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN TO SEE.

EVEN HAD ONE OF THEM, I THINK, THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD COLLEGE PARALEGALS, AND MY HIGH SCHOOL APPRENTICE DID A BETTER JOB THAN COLLEGE-EDUCATED PARALEGALS I'VE HAD, AND THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S PRETTY NEAT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE WRITTEN REPORT. I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A WEBSITE RENOVATION.

CORPORATION DOESN'T HAVE A FULL WEBSITE. IT HAS A PAGE ON THE CITY SITE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE. THAT SHOULD BE LAUNCHED AND OPERATIONAL WITHIN 60 DAYS. THAT WAS SLOWED DOWN A BIT BY MY ABSENCE.

ALSO, WE HAVE RESTARTED. OUR CORPS OF ENGINEERS CONVERSATIONS, THEY'VE HAD A CHANGE IN SOME OF THEIR LEADERSHIP. WE'VE HAD

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MYSELF, THE CITY MANAGER, THE MAYOR, AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ARE MEETING WITH THE CORPS NEXT WEEK JUST TO GET AN UPDATE. THERE'S A PROCESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET A LEASE FROM THEM. WE'VE GOT TO PUT TOGETHER A FIVE-YEAR PLAN ON WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING AS FAR AS ANY IMPROVEMENTS, ANY ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST THE STANDARD, ANY THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. AND IN THAT FIVE-YEAR PLAN, WE'RE NOT COMMITTING TO DO ANYTHING. WE'RE JUST SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING, AND A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS, I THINK THE FIRST THING WE WILL PROBABLY DO, SINCE THE BOARD HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVED DOING IT, PENDING THE LEASES, IS TWIN GROVES PARK IS ALMOST IMPASSABLE UNLESS YOU'RE IN A JACKED-UP PICKUP TRUCK BECAUSE OF THE POTHOLES AND THE PARKING IS POOR, IS TO GO IN AND THE CITY HAS THE CAPACITY TO INTERNALLY GRIND THOSE STREETS AND PARKING OUT AND RE-BLACKTOP IT AND MAKE IT PASSABLE, MAKE IT A USABLE PARK.

BUT IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT THEY WANT IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN. AND THEN WE ALSO NEED TO GIVE THEM, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THEM TO PROVIDE US WITH, WE NEED LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS OF THE ACTUAL PARCELS THAT WILL BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. INSTEAD OF JUST USING THE GIS COORDINATES, OUR ATTORNEY WANTS ACTUAL LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS.

WELL, THE CORPS HAS THOSE, BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF FISHING TO FIND, NO PUN INTENDED, TO FIND THOSE RECORDS. AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR GIS MAPPING AND DROPPING PINS AND SECTIONS SO THEY CAN KIND OF EAT THE ELEPHANT ONE BITE AT A TIME. THEY'LL DO THE FIRST SECTION, THEY'LL FIND THOSE.

WE CAN DO THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN THEY CAN KIND OF TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF US. I THINK WE'LL DO THE ANNEXATION PROBABLY OVER FIVE YEARS, SPLIT IT UP INTO FIVE SEGMENTS. AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT, WE'LL HAVE THE ENTIRETY FROM THE 380 BRIDGE ALL THE WAY TO THE WILEY BRIDGE AROUND THE TWO PENINSULAS WILL BE IN THE CITY LIMITS. NOT ALL THE LAND BETWEEN WHERE CITY LIMITS ARE NOW AND WHERE THEY WILL BE WILL COME IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT IT WILL BRING THEM IN THE ETJ. SO WE'LL ADD ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF SQUARE MILES INTO THE ETJ, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT.

SIGN ORDINANCE.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

OF NOW HAVING TO DO A, AND YOU HEARD THIS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT BUDGET, BECAUSE THEY ASKED THE BOARD TO CHIP IN, AND THIS BOARD WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO CHIP IN, AS WAS THE EDC, ON OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE SIGNED ORDINANCE IS PART OF THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO GET SHIA TO PULL THAT OUT AND DO IT SEPARATELY. SHE HAD BEEN WORKING ON IT, AND WE'RE JUST VERY UNDERSTAFFED.

WHEN THE UDO CAME UP HAVING TO DO THOSE THINGS AND I WAS OUT OF THE OFFICE, IT KIND OF SLID OFF THE DESK. SO THE HOPE IS, AGAIN, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS IN ORDER TO PUT A MESSAGE BOARD SIGN AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. ONE OF WHICH IS TO GO THROUGH AN ENTIRE REZONING PROCESS FOR THE BUILDING THAT PUTS IT IN A ZONE THAT ALLOWS THEM.

THERE IS SOME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF WORK. BUT WHAT MYSELF AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR HAD DECIDED TO DO WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE CLEANER BECAUSE WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR SIGN ORDINANCE ANYWAYS. GO AHEAD AND GET THE SIGN ORDINANCE UPDATED, THEN IT'LL APPLY TO US AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO ALLOW THAT TYPE OF A SIGN IN MORE DISTRICTS. SO I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER ON DATE. I DID PUT IT BACK ON THEIR RADAR WHEN I GOT BACK IN TOWN. THEY MENTIONED THAT IT'S REALLY PART OF THE UDO OR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. AND I SAID, THAT'S GREAT.

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PEEL IT OUT, DO IT SEPARATE, AND THEN JUST FOLD IT IN SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD? AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

CARRIE, IF YOU COULD PUT THE SALES TAX UP. THERE WE GO. HAD ANOTHER GOOD MONTH, 13% AHEAD OF THE SAME MONTH PREVIOUS YEAR. BRINGS THIS YEAR TO DATE UP FROM 6% AHEAD TO 7% AHEAD. ONCE WE GET TO THE LAST QUARTER NOW. NEXT MONTH IS THE LAST MONTH IN OUR FISCAL YEAR, BUT TO REMIND THE BOARD. YOUR SALES TAX SHEET LOOKS LIKE THIS BECAUSE SALES TAX COME IN TWO MONTHS IN ARREARS. SO WHAT WE GOT THIS MONTH APPLIED TO JUNE. AND SO

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WE ARE WELL AHEAD, BUT ONCE WE GET TO THE LAST QUARTER, I PUT A LITTLE RUNNING TALLY ON THE BOTTOM OF IT TO JUST GIVE THE BOARD AN IDEA, OKAY, IF WE END UP 5% OVER, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, 6%, 7%. MY GUESS IS WE'LL END UP ABOUT WHERE WE ARE NOW.

SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT PERCENT, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. IT'S STILL A VERY STRONG YEAR, SIGNIFICANTLY AHEAD OF LAST YEAR AND AHEAD OF BUDGET. AND AGAIN, THE SALES TAX UNTIL SOME OF THE LARGER COMMERCIAL RETAIL THINGS OPEN THAT ARE NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THAT WILL SOMEWHAT FOLLOW OUR POPULATION GROWTH. WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE SPENDING MONEY, BUT THEY'RE SPENDING THEM AT THE YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY THE SAME PLACES AND SO BUT THAT LOOKS GOOD WE ARE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF OUR OF OUR GROWTH PERCENTAGE ANY QUESTIONS ON SALES TAX ALL RIGHT IF WE COULD JUST GO TO THE PRINCETON PAGE OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY PERMITS THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WE ARE WE WE'RE COMING OFF OF THREE DOWN MONTHS IN A ROW, AND FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY, 35%, 49%, 30%, COMPARED TO PREVIOUS, OR SAME MONTH PREVIOUS YEAR, EXCUSE ME.

THE LARGEST REASON FOR THOSE THREE DOWN MONTHS IS JUST STAFFING, TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP ON A BACKLOG OF PERMITS. THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST, WE HAD ABOUT 500 BACKLOGGED RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS.

THE GOAL IS TO GET THOSE CAUGHT UP TO WHERE IT'S WITHIN ABOUT A 10-DAY TURNAROUND THIS MONTH.

SO I SAY THAT TO SAY WE'RE UP BY THREE PERMITS THIS MONTH, UP 2%.

NEXT MONTH, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AS WE CATCH UP ON THOSE. AND WE'VE EVEN MOVED SOME STAFF AROUND SO WE CAN FLUSH THOSE OUT. AND WE'VE ALSO HIRED A CONSULTANT.

BY WE, I MEAN SHY. RUTH AND HER GROUP IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HIRED A CONSULTANT TO HELP PUSH THOSE THROUGH THE FUNNEL SO WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP ON THAT. SO I THINK AT THE END OF THE YEAR, LAST YEAR WE DID 1603. MY GUESS IS WE'LL END UP BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE, BETWEEN 1603 AND 1900, PROBABLY A LITTLE CLOSER TO 16. BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE 500 IN ARREARS, THAT MAKES UP A LOT OF GROUND IF YOU JUST GET CAUGHT UP ON THAT ONE MONTH. WE'D BE ALMOST, WE'D BE WELL AHEAD OF LAST YEAR.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT REPORT? AGAIN, IT'S STRONG, AND I'LL TELL YOU, THE NATIONAL HOUSING MARKET IS SOFTENING.

FINALLY, IT HAS HIT NORTH TEXAS, AND NORTH TEXAS HOUSING MARKET IS SOFTENING.

BUT IT HASN'T HIT US AS HARD AS THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. IT'S NOT GOING TO HIT US AS HARD AS THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. WE'VE GOT SOME BUILT-IN DEFENSES ON BUBBLE BURST, WHAT THEY SAY, THE MARKET. BUBBLE BURST, THE BIGGEST OF WHICH IS TEXAS IS THE NUMBER ONE IN-MIGRATION STATE IN AMERICA, SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 1,100 PEOPLE MOVING TO TEXAS EVERY DAY FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE, BUT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, SO THAT DOES HELP PROP THAT UP.

NOW, WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE RAPID, RAPID GROWTH MAY SLOW DOWN, WHERE THE BUILDERS MAY START SEEING, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOWDOWN IN TURN. INSTEAD OF SELLING A HOUSE BEFORE IT'S FINISHED, WHEN DO WE GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S ON THE MARKET? 30, 45, 60 DAYS. AND IF YOU SEE THAT, THEN YOU'LL START SEEING SOME OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING PERMITS SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. BUT I'M NOT SURE WE'RE THERE YET.

ANY QUESTIONS? ON TO THE FINANCIALS. AGAIN, THE COLUMN TO PAY CLOSEST ATTENTION TO IS THE PERIOD ACTIVITY.

INCOME. $213,667 TOTAL EXPENSES OF $15,000. OVER $6,000 OF THAT IS JUST OUR TRANSFER INTO THE CITY FOR OUR CONTRACT, FOR OFFICES, OFFICE EQUIPMENT, ACCESS TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO A VERY SMALL EXPENSE MONTH.

AND THEN ON THE BALANCE SHEET, WE'VE GOT JUST OVER $5.2 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE OR RETAINED EARNINGS. DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU LIKE TO CALL IT.

AND SO WE ARE IN A GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION.

AND WITH THAT, DID I FORGET ANYTHING, CARRIE? OKAY.

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, IF NO QUESTIONS,

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BOARD REPORT ITEMS. CDC BOARD OF DIRECTORS REPORTED BY ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST ON WHICH NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WITH ANY BOARD REPORT ITEMS TO REPORT? ALL RIGHT. CONSENT AGENDA. ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE

[I. CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION PASSES 5-0.

[J.1. Facade Improvement Grant Program]

THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE TO OUR FACADE GRANT PROGRAM.

THERE ARE JUST A, THERE ARE THREE MAJOR CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM FOR THOSE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE NEW. SOME OF THE GRADING IN THE PREVIOUS.

PROGRAM WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBJECTIVE. IN OTHER WORDS, IF I GRADED IT AND YOU GRADED IT, WE COULD LIKELY COME UP WITH TWO DIFFERENT GRADES. WE TRIED TO MAKE IT MORE OBJECTIVE TO WHERE IT'S A PASS OR FAIL.

YOU EITHER MEET THIS REQUIREMENT OR YOU DON'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. THAT WAY, IT'S MORE EQUITABLE ACROSS THE BOARD TO EVERYBODY. ONE THING THAT WE ARE, THE CITY IS NOT DOING ANYMORE IS JUST PERMIT FEE WAIVERS. THOSE ARE SMALL WITH THE FACADE GRANT. IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MONEY, BUT WHAT WE DID DO IS WE RAISED THE CAP OF THE GRANT FROM $17,500 TO $25,000. THAT WILL HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, MAKE UP FOR THE PERMIT FEES.

AND IT IS 70% REIMBURSEMENT UP TO A MAXIMUM OF $25,000.

THOSE THREE, THE CDC HAS PREVIOUSLY ALREADY BUDGETED $100,000 FOR THIS PROGRAM FOR THE YEAR. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ATTACHED THE ACTUAL GRANT PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE ALREADY READ THROUGH THIS. IT IS PRETTY WELL DETAILED OUT AND INCLUDES THE APPLICATION FOR THE GRANT AS WELL AS THE APPLICATION FOR PAYMENT AFTER THE GRANT.

AND I BELIEVE UNLESS THERE ARE CHANGES TO BE MADE, WHICH WE CAN DO TONIGHT, IT IS READY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL TO GET THIS GRANT PROGRAM BACK ACTIVE. IT IS NOT ONLY FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. IT IS FOR ANYWHERE IN PRINCETON.

IF THERE'S A BUILDING ON 380 THAT'S DILAPIDATED, THAT'S OUR FRONT DOOR AS WELL.

AND SO THEY WOULD ALL BE QUALIFIED. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE ONE SECTION ON PAGE 21 OF 53.

IT STILL SAYS 20,000.

SHOULDN'T THAT SAY 25? YOU SAID PAGE 21, I'M SORRY? UH-HUH.

DOWN THE BOTTOM ON THE PAGE, IT SAYS 21 OF 53 UNDER GENERAL INFORMATION.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, AND I KNOW THAT I SAW IT AS 20. I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY UPDATED IT AFTER WE HAD ALL MET. AND I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD DECIDED 25 WAS THE LIMIT WE WANTED TO GO UP TO. IS THAT CORRECT? SO DID I SAY, DID I SPEAK WRONG OR IS THE DOCUMENT WRONG? IF THE DOCUMENT'S WRONG, WE'LL CORRECT THAT. YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION WITH THAT CORRECTION. NO, THE 25 IS FINE. I'M SORRY? THE 25 IS FINE. 25 IS CORRECT. OKAY, PERFECT. I HAVE SOME MORE CORRECTIONS.

SO SECTION TWO, THE FIRST DOT.

20,000, WHICH SHE ALREADY NOTED. YEP. THEN LET'S SEE, UH,

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SECTION 5 PROGRAM GUIDELINES NUMBER 11 THE WORD SAYS 20,000 AND THEN PARENTHESES 25,000.

THEN THE THIRD AND LAST CORRECTION IS ON SECTION THE VERY LAST SECTION THE DISCLAIMER IT SAYS 20,000.

YEAH, THE VERY LAST PAGE WHERE IT'S THE APPLICANT SIGNATURE.

AND THEN I READ THROUGH IT THINKING IT WAS JUST DOWNTOWN, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN HERE THAT MENTIONS THAT IT'S JUST FOR DOWNTOWN, BUT I COULD BE INCORRECT.

YES, IT'S UNDER THE PROGRAM OBJECTIVE.

IT SAYS DOWNTOWN PRINCETON.

THAT'S ON PAGE 21.

AND I HAD MORE CORRECTIONS, BUT I THINK THAT WAS IT. JUST A SIDE NOTE WHILE WE GO THROUGH THOSE CORRECTIONS. YOU CAN TELL THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO DID THEIR HOMEWORK IN SCHOOL.

WHAT'S THAT? I SAID YOU CAN TELL THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO DID THEIR HOMEWORK IN SCHOOL. THEY TOOK THEIR HOMEWORK HOME AND THEY ACTUALLY DID IT, OKAY? LIKE SOME OF US, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKED ON PEOPLE'S PAPER IN SCHOOL.

I WAS JUST JOKING. I WAS JUST JOKING. I WAS JUST JOKING.

SO, JIM, DO WE NEED A MOTION WITH THOSE CORRECTIONS IN IT? YES. OKAY. SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS WITH THE CORRECTIONS AND WITH THE ERRORS THAT WERE CAUGHT THAT NEED TO BE CORRECTED. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IF YOU COULD READ OUT THOSE AS WE GO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T MISS ANY OF THEM. OKAY. SO TAKE YOUR TIME. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. I NOTATED ALL MINE, INCLUDING HERS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT SAYS DOWNTOWN ONLY.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS. DO YOU WANT TO CORRECT THAT OR STRIKE IT AND MAKE IT CITYWIDE? BECAUSE IT COULD APPLY TO 380.

WE'VE GOT ISSUES ON 380. ON OUR GATEWAYS AS WELL.

I ACTUALLY LIKE STRIKING IT AND MAKING IT CITYWIDE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY? EVERYBODY GOOD? OKAY, SO WE CAN STRIKE THAT ONE IN. STRIKE DOWNTOWN ONLY, GARY. AND APOLOGIES ON THE ERRORS.

I MOTION TO APPROVE J1 FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

UNDER 2, GENERAL INFO, THE FIRST ITEM, PARENTHESES, FROM 20 TO.

25,000. FIVE SECTION 5, PROGRAM GUIDELINES, NUMBER 11, CHANGING THE WORDING.

20,000 TO 25,000. DISCLAIMER 8 TO 25,000 FROM 20,000. AND THEN THE LAST PAGE, 21, PROGRAM OBJECTIVES TO STRIKE THAT TO, SAY, CITYWIDE.

ALL RIGHT, MS. GUERRERO, CHAIRMAN IS SECONDED BY MR. THORNTON. WE WILL TAKE YOUR ROLL CALL. ALL RIGHT,

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ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ITEM,

[J.2. Origin Chiropractic, LLC Facade Grant Project Completion and Reimbursement]

MR. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE BACKUP INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET.

THIS IS ORIGIN CHIROPRACTIC DOWNTOWN. MR. RILEY RENFRO.

HE HAS COMPLETED HIS GRANT UNDER THE OLD PROGRAM.

HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DRIVE BY AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE BUILDINGS, BUT IT IS SIGNIFICANT FOR A RELATIVELY SMALL INVESTMENT.

THERE ARE PICTURES THAT WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH.

HE IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE $17,500 MAXIMUM AWARD UNDER THE OLD PROGRAM.

WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST NEED CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. TO CLOSE OUT THE GRANT PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO MAKE FINAL PAYMENT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY MOTION THAT THE FINAL PAYMENT BE PROCEED AS IS? MOTION MADE BY MR. THORNTON.

SECOND. AND SECOND BY MS. SAMUEL, WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES 5-0.

ALL RIGHT, DISCUSSING POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING

[J.3. Selection of an EDC/CDC Attorney]

THIS WILL BE JUST AN UPDATE TONIGHT. IF THE BOARD REMEMBERS, WE DECIDED TO HAVE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF EACH BOARD. GRADE THE RFPS FROM THE ATTORNEY FIRMS AS WELL AS MYSELF. I KNOW THAT SOME HAVE AND SOME HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE SOFTWARE GETTING THOSE DONE. SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT WE'LL GET THOSE DONE IN VERY SHORT ORDER. I THINK WE HAVE TWO LEFT. ONCE THAT IS OVER AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE THIS WEEK BEFORE IT CLOSES OUT, BUT IT'S NOT SLOWING US DOWN BECAUSE IF THE BOARD REMEMBERS, WE'RE ALSO WAITING.

TO SEE WHAT THE CITY DECIDES TO DO ON THEIR ATTORNEY, IT HAS BEEN THE GENERAL FEELING OF THE BOARD THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST CONSIDER USING A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY FROM THE CITY. AND AGAIN, TO REMIND YOU, THERE ARE BASICALLY THREE OPTIONS.

CHOOSE THE SAME ATTORNEY FOR BOTH CORPORATIONS IN THE CITY. CHOOSE A DIFFERENT FIRM FOR THE CITY AND BOTH OF THE CORPORATIONS.

THE CORPORATIONS WILL SHARE AN ATTORNEY HOWEVER WE DO IT. AND THEN THE THIRD IS A HYBRID.

AND WE MAY END UP USING THE SAME FIRM, BUT WE WILL REQUIRE A SEPARATE ATTORNEY. SO WE HAVE ONE FOCUSED ON OUR WORK FOR THE TWO CORPORATIONS, ONE FOCUSED ON CITY WORK. AND THAT WAY, IF THERE IS ANY CONFLICT THAT COMES UP, WE WON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES. THEY KEEP THOSE THINGS SEPARATE INTERNALLY WITH THE FIRM. WE HAD FIVE RESPONDENTS. I HAD SEVERAL GOOD RESPONSES, INCLUDING OUR CURRENT INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY FIRM. NICHOLS JACKSON. AS A MATTER OF FACT, OUR CURRENT INTERIM EDC AND CDC ATTORNEY WOULD BE THE ATTORNEY THAT THEY WOULD PROPOSE USING IF WE CHOSE THEM. SO ONCE WE GET ALL THE GRADING DONE, THE PLAN IS TO INTERVIEW TWO FIRMS AND THEN AND JUST TO KIND OF SEE HOW WHAT THEIR APPROACH IS, SEE HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK BEST TOGETHER. AND THEN ONCE THE CITY MAKES THEIR DECISION, WE CAN MORE CLEARLY MAKE OURS.

WITHOUT ACCIDENTALLY CHOOSING THE SAME ATTORNEY OR SAME FIRM.

SO WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD.

WE WILL STILL HAVE AN ATTORNEY WHILE WE WAIT. THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE COVERING US UNTIL WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION.

AND WITH THAT, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. IT'S UP TO US, RIGHT, HOW WE DECIDE TO USE IT. ISN'T IT STILL SOME TYPE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST IF WE USE THE SAME? SAME FIRM BUT DIFFERENT ATTORNEYS. NO, AND I'LL ACTUALLY LET COURTNEY SPEAK TO THAT, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN WITHIN THESE LAW FIRMS, AND THEY WILL SEGREGATE IT OUT TO WHERE WE WILL NEVER USE THE SAME ATTORNEY, WE'LL NEVER CROSS OVER. AND ALTHOUGH THEY WORK OUT OF THE SAME FIRM, FOR INSTANCE, COURTNEY WORKS OUT OF HER HOUSE MOST OF THE TIME. SHE'S NOT EVEN IN THE OFFICE WITH THE OTHER ATTORNEYS.

BUT THERE IS A FORM THAT, IF THERE IS A CONFLICT, THAT YOU FILL OUT. YES. SO WE HAVE. WE REPRESENT SEVERAL

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WE PUT UP WHAT WE CALL A FIREWALL, BASICALLY. I DON'T LOOK AT THE WORK THE OTHER ATTORNEY DOES FOR THE OTHER ENTITY, AND THE OTHER ATTORNEY DOESN'T LOOK AT MY WORK. AND WE MAKE SURE THAT BOTH BODIES ARE, BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT EACH BODY, WE MAKE SURE OUR CLIENT IS AWARE THAT WE ARE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER ATTORNEY. THAT WAY EVERYTHING STAYS COMPLETELY ABOVE BOARD, COMPLETELY SILOED, IF YOU WILL. IT'S KIND OF WEIRD TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THEM. I'M GOING TO STAND UP IF THAT'S OKAY.

WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO CONFLICT. AND IF WE FELT LIKE THERE WAS A CONFLICT, WE WOULD LET YOU KNOW AND WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO NOT HANDLE THIS, YOU NEED SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR THIS OR SOMETHING ELSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO CONFLICT.

BUT IF WE USE SEPARATE ATTORNEYS, TO BE VERY CLEAR, WHATEVER ATTORNEY THAT THIS BOARD AND THE EDC BOARD HIRES, THEY WILL WORK FOR YOU. THEY WILL NOT WORK FOR THE CITY AND VICE VERSA.

AND WE WILL HOLD THEM TO THAT.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANKS FOR THE UPDATE. SO, NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON THIS JIM, WE JUST NEED TO FINISH THE REPORT ITEMS. CORRECT. THE GRADING SCALES, GOTCHA. ALRIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG, DISCUSSING THE POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, J4,

[J.4. Marketing and Communications Initiatives]

INITIATIVES AND I THINK WE ARE LOOKING TO TABLE THIS UNTIL NEXT MONTH YES SIR OKAY SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO TABLE THIS AND IT'LL BE BROUGHT BACK UP NEXT MONTH WITH MORE DETAILS AND INFORMATION UM TO PRESENT TO US A MOTION TO TABLE J4 MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS INITIATIVES UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING IN SEPTEMBER ALL RIGHT I GOT A MOTION MADE BY MISS HANDERSON I SECOND AND SECOND BY MR GIRL MS. GUERRERO, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES 5-0.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION

[J.5. Staffing Study]

THIS IS NOT A NEW SUBJECT. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS OFF AND ON, ACTUALLY SINCE I WAS BROUGHT IN, ABOUT EVENTUAL ADDITION OF STAFF. I THINK. BOTH BOARDS ARE OF THE SAME ACCORD, AS WELL AS SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL, THAT IT'S TIME TO START LOOKING AT POSSIBLY EXPANDING STAFF OF BOTH THE EDC AND CDC, OR POSSIBLY BOTH THE EDC AND CDC.

WE SPOKE ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT AT THE EDC MEETING.

THEIR DIRECTION WAS TO CONTINUE MOVING DOWN THAT ROAD. I NEED TO BETTER IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT THOSE ROLES WOULD BE, AS WELL AS WHATEVER THE FISCAL IMPACT WOULD BE OF EACH ONE, KIND OF WHAT THE WAGE RANGES WOULD BE, BECAUSE IF WE DO THIS, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO PAY THEIR EMPLOYMENT COSTS.

I ALSO BROUGHT UP TO THE BOARD LAST NIGHT THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW IN THIS CITY HALL, WE LITERALLY DON'T HAVE AN EMPTY DESK. AND SO, BUT WE ARE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE PARKS AND RECREATION IS ABOUT TO MOVE INTO THEIR NEW BUILDING WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS. I BELIEVE FIRE ADMIN IS GOING TO MOVE OVER INTO THAT BUILDING. AND THEN THERE COULD BE SOME NUMBER OF SPOTS OPEN UP WHERE WE COULD HAVE ROOM FOR MORE STAFF.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BUSINESS RETENTION.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BUSINESS EXPANSION OR RECRUITMENT AS TWO OF THE FUNCTIONS. WE ALSO DISCUSSED POSSIBLE CDC COORDINATOR THAT WOULD OVERSEE THE GRANT PROGRAMS, FOCUS ON THOSE, BE LIAISON ON THE COMMUNITY CENTER. IF THE EDC'S COTTON GIN. WE ENDED UP

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AND SO I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR THIS BOARD'S THOUGHTS ON WHAT YOU THINK YOU SEE THE NEEDS BEING INPUT. IT'S REALLY NOT AN ACTION ITEM. YOU DON'T NEED ACTION TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME KIND OF CONSENT AND SOME DIRECTION ON KIND OF.

YEAH, I THINK WE NEED ONE.

YEAH, I THINK WE MAY NEED TWO.

OR, I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY FEELS THAT WAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU FEEL, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT AS WELL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COORDINATOR AND THEN ALSO, I'M NOT SURE OF THE TITLE, BUT LIKE THE ASSISTANT TO YOU. SO SOMEONE THAT IS DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH YOU, THAT KNOWS EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING.

JUST IN CASE YOU DECIDE TO GET UP AND RUN AWAY TO ARGENTINA, THEY CAN TAKE OVER AND KNOW WHAT TO DO.

YES, YOU, JIM. ANYBODY OUT THERE BELIEVE I'M GOING TO GET UP AND RUN AWAY TO ARGENTINA? I DON'T KNOW. YOU MIGHT, BUT. WELL TAKEN. AND IF WE DID THAT, THAT PERSON.

WOULD FILL A COUPLE OF THESE ROLES PROBABLY, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU. THEY WOULD DO BUSINESS RECRUITMENT, AND THEY'D ALSO DO A LITTLE BIT OF BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION. OR BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION. WE DON'T, A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES WE HAVE IN PRINCETON TODAY, YOUR FAST FOOD, YOUR SMALL RETAIL, I KEEP IN GOOD TOUCH WITH OUR MAJOR EMPLOYERS. OUR BIGGEST EMPLOYERS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAW MAC TODAY.

YOU KNOW, WALMART IS OUR SECOND. THEY'RE GOING NOWHERE.

THE CITY'S NUMBER THREE. WE'RE GOING NOWHERE. BUT A LOT OF THE SMALL RETAIL IS MORE OF A CHAMBER FUNCTION THAN AN EDC FUNCTION, BUT THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING ON NOW THAT WE'LL START SPENDING MORE TIME ON A REGULAR BASIS WORKING WITH, AND I'VE DONE BUSINESS RETENTION MY ENTIRE CAREER. AND IT'S NOT TO SAY WE WON'T SPEND TIME AT OUR RETAILERS. WE DO, AND I DO PEEK IN.

BUT THIS PERSON WILL DO THAT.

AND THEN WOULD ALSO PROBABLY DO SOME RECRUITMENT AS WELL.

IN MY OPINION, GOING FROM TWO TO FIVE MIGHT BE A BIG JUMP STAFFING-WISE, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S NOT THAT I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT, BUT I THINK I NEED SOME BACKUP AT THIS POINT SO I CAN CONTINUE FOCUSING ON THE THINGS THAT I DO AND HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE RECRUITING AS WELL.

I WENT TO THE OPEN HOUSE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I KNOW THEY SAID THAT THEY WORKED WITH YOU A LOT ON IT AND SO I TALKED TO THEM A LOT BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A HUGE TURNOUT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOWN HALL SO I GOT ACTUALLY TO GET SOME ONE-ON-ONE TIME WITH THEM AND WE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT WHERE THEY THOUGHT WE SHOULD GO AS A BOARD JUST SOME YOU KNOW THOUGHTS BUILDING UP A CITY WHERE WE'VE BEEN BECAUSE THEY YOU KNOW GOT TO TALK TO EVERYBODY.

THEY SAID, JUST THEIR PERSONAL ADVICE, THAT US HAVING A MINIMUM OF A STAFF OF FOUR WOULD BE THEIR RECOMMENDATION. AND THEM THINKING THAT, HIS JUST SAYING THAT LIKE A CITY THAT WAS, I FORGET WHO, SOUTH OF US, ADDING, THEY HAD A STAFF OF ONE, AND HE SAID HIS EXAMPLE WAS ADDING JUST ONE PERSON, THEIR VOLUME INCREASED BY 60%.

OF JUST THEIR BEING ABLE TO HAVE SO THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE HE GAVE AND HIM JUST SAYING THAT YOU KNOW WE COULD HAVE A STAFF OF FOUR PEOPLE HE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF A SIZE OF A CITY THAT HE'S SEEN SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP US DRAMATICALLY WITH OUR GROWTH AND SO I DID WATCH THE MEETING YESTERDAY FOR THE EDC AND I THINK KNOWING THAT YEAH WE DON'T HAVE ROOM NOW BUT SEEING HOW PHIL CARRIES POSITION AND KNOWING THAT IT'S. YOU KNOW, A TWO-MONTH PROCESS AND SAYING THAT WE WANT TO GET THE BALL GOING NOW TO START FILLING THOSE POSITIONS, I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS FOR US TO GET A JOINT MEETING WITH THE EDC AND CDC ON THE BOOKS NOW SO THAT WE CAN START TALKING BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY AT LEAST LEVERAGE ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS AND SHARE THE COST AND MAYBE WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN POSITION AS WELL.

BUT I THINK THEY MENTIONED IT LAST NIGHT AS WELL AS HAVING A MEETING WITH BOTH OF US TOGETHER. TO AT LEAST TALK ABOUT WHAT POSITIONS WE NEED BECAUSE I THINK US HAVING A MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEN THEM HAVING A MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEN US WAITING UNTIL NEXT MONTH AND THEM TALKING ABOUT IT.

AND THEN US TALKING ABOUT IT

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I WAS ALSO WONDERING ABOUT THAT AS WELL. THEY SAID THAT THE EDC AND CDC AT SOME POINT WAS GOING TO MEET TOGETHER BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY BEING SHARED OR UNDERSTOOD. BUT ALSO A SPECIAL PROJECT MANAGER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD FIT AS FAR AS WHEN YOU'RE OUT, SOMEONE THAT CAN HOP IN.

BUT I THINK I LIKE WHAT CHENEDA SAID, WHERE YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL ASSISTANT THAT CAN ACTUALLY DIRECTLY WORK WITH US IF THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON.

BUT.

I LIKE THE FOUR. AND SO HAVING AN ANALYSIS, BECAUSE WE ARE GROWING REALLY FAST, AND IT'S HARD TO EVEN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING OR NOT HAPPENING. AND SO WE NEED SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY KEEP EYES ON WHAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS, LIKE, THE WHOLE BOARD. SURE.

FOR US, EDC, THE CITY, AND SO I THINK SOMEONE THAT CAN ACTUALLY OBJECTIVELY TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BIG PICTURE WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

AND I NEGLECTED TO POINT OUT, AND YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ON YOUR SCREEN, AND THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN, WE DID POLL A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR IN A SIMILAR AREA. THE NEXT PAGE TALKS ABOUT WHAT THEIR ACTUAL TITLES ARE. AND THE INTERESTING THING WE FOUND ABOUT THIS IS THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH RHYME OR REASON. IT'S NOT LIKE THE LARGEST POPULATION IS DRAMATICALLY LARGER IN STAFFING. WE DO HAVE CELINA WITH SIX, WILEY WITH FIVE.

WE HAVE ANNA WITH FIVE, BUT WE HAVE MELISSA WITH ZERO. THEY HAVE THEIR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND CITY MANAGER DOING IT. SACHSE WITH TWO. AND SO IT'S NOT DIRECTLY IN CORRELATION WITH WHAT THEIR ANNUAL INCOME IS AND WHAT THEIR POPULATION IS, BUT AND THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING. I THOUGHT THERE'D BE MORE CORRELATION TO INCOME AND IF NOTHING ELSE, IF NOT THE POPULATION, THE RATE OF GROWTH, AND NONE OF THOSE ARE REALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT TRUE ON THIS MATRIX.

SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY USE YOUR BEST JUDGMENT. IT'S OUR COMMUNITY. WE SHOULD USE OUR BEST JUDGMENT ON WHAT WE NEED IN OUR CITY.

AND JUST TO ADD THAT MELISSA ALSO DOES HAVE AN ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION THAT HELPS OUT. I BELIEVE IN WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, NO MORE THAN FOUR, NO MORE LESS THAN THREE.

FOR THE SIMPLE FACT FOR THE BULK OF THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE IN THE CITY AND THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, US BEING NUMBER THREE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER ALL BASES FROM GRANTS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH OUR CITIZENS, TO EVEN THE BIGGER PROJECTS THAT WE HELP OUT WHEN WE'RE PARTNERING UP WITH EDC. AND SO WITH THAT BEING, I'M MORE THAN.

ON BOARD WITH HAVING FOUR BUT LET'S NOT MAKE A LESS THAN THREE OKAY OKAY UH I WAS ON BOARD UM WITH MORE STAFF HONESTLY UNTIL I SAW THIS REPORT I'M GONNA BE HONEST UH WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES WHEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CITY BEING SHORT STAFF AND I I THINK I HEARD THERE ABOUT 65 OR 70 PERCENT AT CAPACITY STAFF, SO ABOUT 30 PERCENT, 25, 30 PERCENT SHORT ON STAFF.

DO WE WANT TO MAKE THE CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO NOT BE OVERSTAFFED? I KNOW WE'RE PLANNING FOR GROWTH. WE CAN ALWAYS STAIR-STEP STAFF AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S SEE WHAT NEXT YEAR LOOKS LIKE. ADD ONE, LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE, AND THEN LET'S SEE WHAT THE WORKLOAD LOOKS LIKE. I WOULD WANT TO SEE BEFORE WE JUST ACTUALLY GIVE A NUMBER. GIVE ME JOB DESCRIPTIONS. TELL ME WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DOING ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS BEFORE I JUST GIVE OUT. I THINK THE RESPONSIBLE THING FOR ME IS BEFORE I JUST GIVE OUT A NUMBER, OH, I NEED TWO MORE STAFF, WOULD BE, OKAY, STAFF, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK YOU NEED. BRING BACK TO ME JOB DESCRIPTIONS, WHAT THEY'LL BE DOING, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE LOOK AND GO, OKAY, YOU GIVE ME A JOB DESCRIPTION, AND WHAT IS THIS PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING IN? BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CHART, TO BE HONEST. THE NUMBERS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THERE IS NO RHYME OR REASON.

SO IT MAKES ME THINK IF WILEY CAN FUNCTION WITH A CITY WITH ALMOST 63,000 PEOPLE HANDLING 21 PLUS MILLION IN SALES TAX.

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OVER DOUBLE IN THE SALES TAX.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. I MEAN, I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU, ACTUALLY, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY DISAGREEMENT. I THINK WE DO NEED STAFF. I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA FOR ME TO COME BACK AND TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE I SEE THE NEED.

THIS IS WHAT THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS IN THIS ESSENCE WOULD BE. AND IN THE BYLAWS, I BRING THIS TYPE OF THING, I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BROUGHT IT TO THE BOARD.

IN THE BYLAWS, WHETHER WE HIRE AND WHO WE HIRE IS TOTALLY AT MY DISCRETION. NOW, I HAVE TO COME TO YOU AND ASK YOU TO FINANCE IT. I HAVE TO ASK YOU FOR THE MONEY.

I DON'T SAY THAT TO SAY THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD STAFF. I THINK WE DO.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS, BUT.

I REALLY WANTED TO GET FROM BOTH BOARDS, JUST KIND OF A REACTION. I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE FROM EVERYBODY. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT IT NARROWED DOWN TO ONE OR TWO PEOPLE. AND IF WE ADD A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS AND A YEAR FROM NOW ADD THE OTHER ONE, I DO NOT LIKE BEING OVERSTAFFED. IT'S JUST NOT THE WAY I FUNCTION.

NOW, PART OF THE REASON I THINK THESE NUMBERS ARE ALL OVER THE BOARD IS I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ENJOY MANAGING PEOPLE MORE THAN THEY ENJOY DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU. AND SO THEY BUILD KINGDOMS. I'M NOT A KINGDOM BUILDER. I DON'T TRY TO BUILD A HUGE STAFF.

I'M MORE FOCUSED ON THE END RESULT. SO I DO THINK WE NEED SOME. I WOULD EITHER HAVE ONE. WELL, I DEFINITELY HAVE ONE SPECIFIC TO THE EDC, AND THE OTHER ONE, QUITE HONESTLY, WOULD PROBABLY BE A SHARED POSITION BETWEEN EDC AND CDC, AND IT COULD BE A COORDINATOR THAT COULD FILL A COUPLE SLOTS.

ALTHOUGH I DO HEAR, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MERIT TO THE FACT OF BRINGING SOMEBODY IN THAT HAS ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO WHERE IF I STEP OFF A CURB AND GET HIT BY A BUS, I CAN STEP IN AND KEEP THINGS GOING AND MOVE THINGS FORWARD. I MEAN, THERE NEEDS TO BE I MEAN, I'VE ALREADY BEEN OUT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND YOU KIND OF WERE JUST WAITING FOR ME TO GET BACK, SO I GET IT.

SO LET ME PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT INTO THAT. I'LL PUT A COUPLE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND TRYING TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, EVEN IF IT'S A ONE-ITEM AGENDA, TO JUST SIT AROUND A TABLE AND DISCUSS THIS, GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE'LL ALL COME TO A DECISION TOGETHER.

IS THAT FAIR? YEAH, THAT'S FAIR. TWO QUESTIONS. IS THE NUMBER CORRECT FOR OUR SALES TAX FOR PRINCETON FOR 2025? NO, THAT WAS OUR TOTAL INCOME, SO THAT INCLUDED A LAND SALE, AND THAT'S FOR BOTH CORPORATIONS TOGETHER, NOT EACH CORPORATION. EACH CORPORATION LAST YEAR DID $2.2 MILLION. THIS YEAR WE'LL DO $2.4 MILLION. LAST YEAR WE SOLD A PIECE OF LAND TO THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, AND WE FINANCED A PIECE OF LAND FOR 99 VISION THAT THEY PAY US ANNUALLY. ALL OF THAT PLUS THE INTEREST IS GROUPED INTO THAT NUMBER.

SO IT'S THE LAND SALE, THE SALES TAX. YES, MA'AM.

WE'LL BRING IN, AND HERE'S ANOTHER THING JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THERE HAS BEEN TALK OF CREATING A PUBLIC SAFETY DISTRICT AND TAKING SOME OF THE INCOME FROM EACH OF THE BOARDS OR ABOLISHING ONE OF THE BOARDS AND ONLY KEEPING ONE AND PUTTING THAT SALES TAX TOWARDS THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISTRICT.

WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A DECISION. ON THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SET IN STONE BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT YOU GUYS AT LEAST KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN TALK.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS. YEAH WE COULDN'T DECIDE THAT THE CHARTER IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON IN NOVEMBER IF IT GOES TO EVEN GETS TO THE BACK. YEAH, THE VOTERS BROUGHT IN BOTH

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AND MY LAST STATEMENT IS ABOUT THIS. IT'S JUST MY OPINION. WITHOUT A DOUBT, WE NEED SOMEONE IN A POSITION THAT CAN STAND IN YOUR PLACE, WHETHER YOU'RE ABSENT, WHETHER YOU LEAVE, WHATEVER, WHAT, BECAUSE WE CAN'T STOP EVERYTHING LIKE THINGS HAPPEN IN THE PRESS, SO IF ANYTHING, BOARD, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, THE FIRST POSITION THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR. SOMEBODY WITH VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE. AND I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THAT PROCESS, IS HAVING SOMEBODY COME IN WITH THAT EXECUTIVE LEVEL EXPERIENCE, AND THEN WE KIND OF CAVEAT FROM THERE. NOW, THAT PERSON WILL HAVE TO DIVVY AND THEN DO MULTIPLE THINGS AS WELL. BUT I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CITY'S BUDGET AND WE SEE THEIR STRAPS, FOR US TO EXPAND LIKE THAT WITH ALL THE HELP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET, I JUST THINK IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD REALLY, REALLY LOOK AT BECAUSE JUST DEPENDING, LIKE, SEEING WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT WE HAVE, LIKE BRINGING, IN MY OPINION, BRINGING TWO PEOPLE ON RIGHT NOW, NOW WE DON'T KNOW THE FINANCIAL COST OF THAT EITHER AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING WHERE WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.

I THINK WE'RE GIVING OUT NUMBERS AND SAYING TO STAFF MEMBERS, OKAY.

WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS THAT EVEN IF WE SPLIT IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I JUST KNOW EVERYTHING IS TIGHT RIGHT NOW ON A LOT OF CITIES GOING ACROSS THE BOARD. SO I THINK US HAVING TO FILL IN SOME OF THOSE GAPS WITH THE CITY AND HELPING ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

WE SHOULD, NOT AGAINST IT, I DO AGREE WITH MS. SAMUEL THAT WE NEED SOMEBODY WITH THAT EXECUTIVE LEVEL EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO BEFORE I WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY YES ON ANYTHING, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THE COST ANALYSIS ON WHAT IT WOULD COST US, TWO JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND WORKLOADS, AND WHAT ALL THOSE LOOK LIKE.

AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS IN THE NEXT 12 TO 15 MONTHS, OKAY, WHAT ARE SOME CAVEATS? WHAT ARE THOSE PEOPLE GOING TO DO? AND THEN WHAT EXPECTATIONS ARE WE LOOKING FOR THEM DURING THAT TIME FRAME? NOT JUST ANSWERING THE PHONES, NOT JUST WAITING ON US TO COME UP WITH PROGRAMS FOR THEM TO OPERATE, BECAUSE BOARD MEMBERS COME AND GO. AND THEN SOMETIMES YOU GET BOARD MEMBERS THAT COME UP WITH A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS AND PUSH A LOT OF PROJECTS OUT, AND THAT'S GOOD. SOMETIMES YOU GET BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT AS INVOLVED, AND THEY DON'T PUMP OUT AS MANY PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THAT MEANTIME? SO I AGREE, BUT I THINK THAT AND THEY SAID LAST NIGHT IS THAT WE NEED TO BUILD OUT A PLAN, AND JIM WAS SAYING THAT TOO. AND SO I THINK THAT US MEETING TOGETHER, THE EDC AND THE CDC, AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT POSITIONS WE WOULD POTENTIALLY WANT, WHAT POSITIONS WE COULD LEVERAGE TOGETHER, WHAT POSITIONS WE MIGHT NEED SEPARATELY, US THINKING ABOUT THAT TOGETHER, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO DO IT SEPARATELY. AND THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP IS HAVING A MEETING TOGETHER, TALKING ABOUT WHAT POSITIONS WE WOULD WANT AND WE WOULD NEED.

AND I MEAN, IT COULD BE A ONE-YEAR PLAN, IT COULD BE A SIX-MONTH PLAN, IT COULD BE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

BUT HAVING THOSE POSITIONS AND KIND OF HAVING THAT STRUCTURE, AND THEN FROM THERE, OF COURSE, WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW JOB DESCRIPTIONS, SALARIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, SEE WHERE WE COULD AFFORD THEM AND AT WHAT POINT, AND THEN WE WOULD PLAN IT OUT. I DON'T THINK, YES, SAYING WE WANT FOUR PEOPLE, SAYING WE WANT THREE PEOPLE, SAYING WE WANT TWO PEOPLE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT FEASIBLE FOR US TO JUST SIT HERE AND SAY THAT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT POSITIONS, AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE OTHER BOARDS ABOUT IT.

BUT THE FIRST STEP, I THINK, IS US TALKING TO THE OTHER BOARD ABOUT IT AND US DECIDING WHAT TOGETHER WE THINK WE WOULD NEED AND WHERE THE GAPS ARE, AND THEN FROM THERE GOING AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE AND HAVING JIM FILL THOSE IN AND THEN LOOKING AT WHAT THE PRICE LIKE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE WHAT THE SALARIES WOULD BE AND GOING FROM THERE BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS NOW BECAUSE US JUST TALKING ABOUT IT AND US JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WHILE JIM WAS OUT WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT BUT THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ADMIN TO DO ANYTHING SO WE WAITED AND THEN WHEN SHE CAME THAT WE HAD TO GET ALL THE ANALYSIS FOR EVERYTHING AND THEN WE WAITED AND LIKE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT ISN'T DOING ANYTHING.

WE NEED TO START MOVING ON IT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS HAVING A JOINT MEETING AND STARTING TO PLAN IT OUT.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE AT CITY, LIKE JUST ACROSS THE BOARD, OR IS IT KIND OF JUST US? WHEN WE ACTUALLY MEET TOGETHER, SHOULD WE ALL BE PRETTY MUCH

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AND WITH THE CITY BECAUSE PROFESSIONALLY I THINK SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE A MORE AERIAL VIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO LIKE SHE SAID WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ALL DAY, BUT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING IN PROJECTED GROWTH? TO ME, I THINK THAT'S AN ANALYSIS THAT NEEDS TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY TELL US TO HELP US, GUIDE US THROUGH THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO DO WE HAVE ANYONE LIKE THAT ALREADY? AND MAYBE I'M MISSING THE MARK. YOU MEAN LOOKING AT THE GLOBAL STAFFING CITY VERSUS THE TWO BOARDS AS WELL? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE, THE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING, WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BE DOING IN THE FUTURE. AND SO.

RIGHT, SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT IT'S ALL US DOING IT, BUT I DON'T HAVE BACKGROUND. I'LL BE VERY FRANK, I DON'T HAVE BACKGROUND ON THAT. I CAN RESEARCH MY BUTT OFF, DON'T GET ME WRONG ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO GET AN OBJECTIVE VIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OR NOT HAPPENING, WE NEED SOMEONE THAT'S REMOVED FROM ALL THE BOARDS AND EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE US A VIEW OF WHAT THEY SEE IS HAPPENING AND WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE LIKE A CONTRACTOR THAT COULD COME IN. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION FOR US TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ACROSS THE BOARD TO KIND OF FORWARD ALL OF US. SURE.

AND SO I'M NOT SURE, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY. AS FAR AS THE OVERALL WHAT DIRECTION IS THE CITY GOING, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT DO WE NEED TO HAPPEN THAT WE CAN'T MAKE HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE SHORT ON STAFF, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THERE ARE A TEAM OF INTERNAL EXECUTIVES THAT WE TALK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME.

CITY MANAGER, MYSELF, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, FINANCE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AS INVOLVED ON OUR SIDE, BUT THEY'RE VERY, VERY INVOLVED ON THE CITY SIDE. THE CITY'S BASICALLY LOOKING AT A HIRING FREEZE. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ADDING STAFF IN THE UPCOMING YEAR FOR THE MOST PART WITH THE CITY, I DON'T BELIEVE. IF WE DO, IT'LL BE VERY SMALL NUMBERS.

BUT YES, AND THERE'S BEEN TALK OF AN EFFICIENCY STUDY. AND DURING THE BUDGET, AND I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE NUMBERS. BUT THEY SHOWED A SLIDE THAT HAVE HOW MANY CITIZENS DOES EACH STAFF MEMBER SERVE.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU MULTIPLY OR YOU DIVIDE THE NUMBER OF CITIZENS BY STAFF MEMBERS AND HOW MANY DOES EACH STAFF MEMBER REPRESENT, AND OUT OF, I THINK, EIGHT CITIES, IT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE.

PRINCETON, EACH STAFF MEMBER REPRESENTED, IT WAS EITHER 213 OR 216 CITIZENS. AND THE NEXT CLOSEST WAS UNDER 200, WAY UNDER 200. AND SO WE ARE UNDERSTAFFED. WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.

FINANCIALLY, WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IMMEDIATELY. THAT DEPENDS ON A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.

BUT WE DO HAVE CONTROL OVER OUR HOUSE AND WHAT WE DO.

IF WE WERE TO ADD FIVE OR SIX STAFF MEMBERS, IT WOULD BE A REALLY BAD LOOK.

BECAUSE THERE ARE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE 500 SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS ON A DESK THAT WE CAN'T EVEN GET TO TO PROCESS AND BACKLOG IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS. BUT I THINK EVEN THERE ARE SEVERAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE EVEN MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS COULD USE SOME HELP. YOU GUYS NEED TO.

WE NEED SOME REDUNDANCY. WE NEED TO ADD SOME ASSISTANCE BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME THAT I SPEND IS EITHER DOING DEALS OR UP HERE TRYING TO CREATE A STRATEGY OF WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO. AND WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S MORE TACTICAL ON STAFF AS WELL. AND I PUSHED BACK ON IT MY FIRST YEAR BECAUSE MY FIRST YEAR I DIDN'T WANT TO ADD ANY STAFF. I NEED TO GET MY FEET ON THE GROUND, FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, MAKE SOME CHANGES WITH JUST HOW WE WERE DOING THINGS.

BUT NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE I TOTALLY AGREE, AND I WOULDN'T FIGHT IT AT ALL. BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SIT TOGETHER, TO YOUR POINT, ALLISON, AND WE TALK THROUGH, DO MORE THAN JUST TALK, BUT I WILL SHOW YOU A PLAN OF WHAT I THINK THE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS ARE, AND QUITE HONESTLY, IT WILL BE VERY, VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND A REALLY SENIOR EXECUTIVE TO COME IN AND SLOT UNDER ME, PARTICULARLY IN A TOWN THIS SIZE. BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO FIND A YOUNG DIRECTOR LEVEL, AND I SAY YOUNG, I MEAN COMPARED TO ME, I'M OLD.

I DON'T MEAN A CHILD, BUT THAT IS SHARP, HAS GOT A LOT OF THEIR CAREER AHEAD

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AND SO, WE COULD AIM AT THAT, AND THAT PERSON WOULDN'T JUST SPEND THEIR TIME MANAGERIAL. THEY WOULD DO BUSINESS ATTRACTION. THEY WOULD DO SOME OF THOSE FUNCTIONS, BUT THEY'D BE NUMBER TWO ON STAFF, SO THEY'D DUAL FILL.

THE LAST THING ON THIS, BEFORE I FORGET, JUST TO UPDATE EVERYBODY ON OUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, AND WE COULD ADD SOME DUTIES TO THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT POSITION AS WELL. WE COULD HAVE THEM MANAGE THE GRANTS, AND WE CAN. YOU KNOW, REUSE SO WE CAN BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. WE DID HAVE THREE INTERVIEWS TODAY. WE'VE GOT ONE MORE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INTERVIEW. WE'RE GOING TO DO A SECOND INTERVIEW.

CARRIE HAS CREATED SOME EXERCISES FOR THEM TO DO THAT WILL KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR UNDERSTANDING. YOU CAN ASK PEOPLE IN AN INTERVIEW WHAT YOUR LEVEL OF DETAIL ORIENTATION IS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU IT'S VERY, VERY HIGH. WELL, THAT'S GREAT. SHOW ME HOW HIGH. SHOW ME HOW DETAIL-ORIENTED YOU ARE.

AND SHE PUT TOGETHER AN EXERCISE THAT I WOULD FAIL HORRIBLY, BUT WE WOULD PUT BEFORE THESE CANDIDATES TO HELP US MAKE A DECISION. I THINK WE'RE LITERALLY, WE COULD BE INTRODUCING YOU TO A NEW STAFF MEMBER AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. SO CARRIE WILL STAY ON, I'M HOPING, FOR A MONTH TO TRAIN THAT PERSON. AND TO ASSIST FOR A TRANSITION, AND THEN SHE WILL GO BACK TO THE HOME THAT SHE IS LOOKING AT. I TRIED TO GET HER TO MOVE HERE, Y'ALL. I MEAN, AHMAUD WAS IN MY OFFICE BOUNDING ON MY DESK SAYING, YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP HER HERE.

BUT IT'S A FOUR-AND-A-HALF-HOUR COMMUTE, AND SHE'S NOT SELLING THAT HOUSE. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING SHE'S DONE IN THE INTERIM.

SO, JIM, IS THERE ANY ACTION THAT YOU NEED FOR US? I GOT WHAT I NEED FOR NOW. OKAY, ALL RIGHT, JUST A DISCUSSION. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO SAY ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

WAS AN ACTUAL STUDY DONE OF THE CITY? I KNOW SHE'S MENTIONING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT WAS AN ACTUAL STUDY DONE TO PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THE INTERNAL LEADERSHIP THAT I DISCUSSED? NO, NO, THAT IS JUST WE'VE GOT KIND OF A CORE AND NOW WE'RE MORE FORMALIZING THAT CORE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK INSTEAD OF JUST AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY GOING TO BE ADJUSTING PARTICULARLY WITH THE TIGHT BUDGET YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADJUSTING CONSTANTLY AND SO MOVING THINGS AROUND AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COVERED UM BUT NOT AN OUTSIDE STUDY NO MA'AM OKAY BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO MAYBE THIS IS FOR WHEN WE HAVE THE COMBINED MEETING BUT THANK YOU. A SUGGESTION, MAYBE USING ONE OF THE LOCAL COLLEGES' RESEARCH TEAM TO COME IN AND SUPPORT US VERSUS HAVING TO HIRE SOMEONE, THAT MIGHT BE BECAUSE I THINK WE DO NEED MORE OF A STUDY DONE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING, BECAUSE I LOVE THE PLAN, BUT WE ALSO, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO HAVE SOMEONE ON THE OUTSIDE GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK, TOO. JUST MY SUGGESTION.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE? THE CITY AS A WHOLE. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO COME FROM COUNCIL. YEAH. YEAH.

WELL. YEAH. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO SPEAK AT COUNCIL.

UH-HUH. YEAH. LET THEM KNOW THAT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN HANDLE THAT BETWEEN THE BOARDS, BUT I THINK HAVING AN ACTUAL RESEARCH TEAM COME IN AND SUPPORT US THROUGH THAT MIGHT BE VERY BENEFICIAL.

AND EMPLOYMENT AND STAFFING STUDIES ARE VERY COMMON. YEAH.

I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU THAT I STILL CALL HIM CHIEF, BUT CITY MANAGER WATERS, WHO'S ALSO OUR POLICE CHIEF. HE MAY HAVE THAT IN THE OFFING. I DON'T KNOW.

MY GUESS IS RIGHT NOW HE PROBABLY DOESN'T BECAUSE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT SAYS, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. YEAH, HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. AND IT'S JUST MORE MONEY WE'D BE SPENDING.

BUT I AGREE, AND I'VE BEEN IN CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THOSE THINGS, AND I THINK THEY'RE VERY VALUABLE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, SO NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON THAT ITEM.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS.

[J.6. Chamber of Commerce Golf Tournament Sponsorship]

Y'ALL, WE HAVE, AND AS I THINK THIS BOARD KNOWS, IF NOT I WILL TELL YOU THAT AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH BETH I BELIEVE BETWEEN THE

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ARE WE LARGER THAN THE EDC? I THINK WE ARE. YOU KNOW, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT? I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. I THINK WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. I SEE A COUPLE OF EDC. I SEE AN EDC MEMBER OUT THERE IN THE AUDIENCE. I THINK WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. OKAY, WELL GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY.

SOMEONE'S ABOUT TO GET HIT. I SEE. I SEE BRUIN. THERE'S ABOUT TO BE AN ISSUE.

YOU DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE EDC, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS A BONE OF CONTENTION THIS YEAR AND THEY MAY HAVE UPPED ONE OF THEIRS.

ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE DONE THE HATS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE DID IT LAST YEAR. THEY WERE VERY, VERY POPULAR.

LIKE I MENTIONED, THE EDC BOARD, I'M A SWAG SNOB, AND INSTEAD OF JUST PAYING FOR A SPONSORSHIP TO SPONSOR THE HATS AND LET THEM ORDER THE HATS, I PAY THEM A SMALL SPONSORSHIP FEE OF $1,000, AND THEN WE DESIGN AND ORDER THE HATS. OURSELVES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE GET WHAT WE WANT.

I WOULD RECOMMEND CONTINUING THAT. SHE DID LET ME KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE AN OPENING ON THE GOLF TOWEL SPONSOR AS WELL.

YOU KNOW LAST YEAR I THINK WE SPLIT THE HEAD SPONSORSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO BOARDS. EACH BOARD BECAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF MEMBERSHIP AND SPONSORSHIP GETS A TEAM IN THE TOURNAMENT. AND THEN AS A HAT SPONSOR, WE GET A TEAM IN THE TOURNAMENT. WE DONATE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN WE FILLED LAST YEAR A TEAM FROM EACH BOARD TO PLAY IN THE TOURNAMENT.

I'M GOING TO BE ON THE DL THIS YEAR WITH SHOULDER REPLACEMENT. I AM NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY GOLF QUITE THAT QUICK. I CAN GO OUT AND PUTT.

WELL, I TAKE THAT BACK. I CAN GO OUT AND ACT LIKE I'M GOING TO PUTT. I NEVER COULD PUTT. I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUTT NOW.

BUT ANYWAY, I RECOMMEND CONTINUING AT THE HAT. WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR OUR CHAMBER, CONTINUED CHAMBER SUPPORT.

THE GOLF TOWEL SPONSORSHIP, IF THAT GOES AWAY AND THEY NEED A SPONSOR AS A SMALL SPONSORSHIP, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASY TO ADD THAT UNLESS THE BOARD HAS AN ISSUE WITH IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP THAT SWAG WITH THE TOURNAMENT. BUT, IT IS OCTOBER 23RD AT.

CAN YOU HEAR THE MICROPHONE? OUR GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MS. VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BETH WILHITE, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE PRINCETON-LOWRY CROSSING CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THIS YEAR OUR GOLF TOURNAMENT IS AT OCALA AGAIN FRIDAY OCTOBER 23RD REGISTRATIONS AT 730 WITH THE SHOTGUN START AT 9 WE DO PROVIDE BREAKFAST AND LUNCH AS WELL.

CAN YOU TELL ME YOU OR JIM ON THE DAY OF THE GOLF TOURNAMENT WHAT DOES THE CDC DO? DO WE HAVE A TABLE THERE? ARE WE PASSING OUT THE HATS THAT WE SPONSORED LAST YEAR? WHAT IS OUR PARTICIPATION THAT DAY? WE'VE GOT OUR ICON LOGO ON THE HAT. LAST YEAR IT HAD THE ICON LOGO ON THE CROWN AND IT HAD OUR ZIP CODE ON THE SIDE, 75407. NICE GOLF HAT, VERY POPULAR. WE HAVE MULTIPLE COLORS WE ALLOW GOLFERS TO PICK OUT. WHICH COLOR HAT THEY WANTED.

OUR LOGOS ARE ON EVERYTHING THEY HAND OUT, BASICALLY. WE'RE PART OF ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE DON'T HAVE A TABLE THERE. AT 7.30 IN THE MORNING, GOLFERS ARE THERE TO WARM UP AND GET ON THE COURSE SO THEY WOULDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME AT A TABLE, I DON'T THINK, ANYWAY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SET UP AT A TEE, YOU WOULD BE WELCOME TO DO THAT. LAST YEAR, OUR TITLE SPONSOR SET UP AT ONE OF THE TEES. THAT IS AN.

A SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY. WE HAD TWO, I BELIEVE, LAST YEAR THAT DID THAT, AND THAT IS ONE THING THAT OUR BOARD IS LOOKING TO DO MORE OF. IT ALLOWS YOU A LITTLE MORE INTERACTION WHEN EACH TEAM COMES TO THAT TEE, AND OF COURSE, WITH THE LEVEL MEMBER THAT YOU ARE, YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CHOOSE. IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD ALLOW YOU TO CHOOSE WHAT TEE YOU WOULD WANT TO SET UP, SO YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT. THAT IS CORRECT.

ONCE REGISTRATION HAPPENS AND THAT TIME STARTS, WE DON'T SEE GOLFERS UNTIL LUNCHTIME. YEAH, I FIGURED. I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. SO I THINK SINCE WE ARE

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BECAUSE IT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ARE DOING THE MEMBERSHIP, LET US DO SOMETHING ELSE. I DON'T MIND DOING THE HATS AGAIN, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY PAYING THIS HIGH LEVEL, AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE REPRESENTATION AT THESE EVENTS SINCE WE'RE AT THAT MEMBERSHIP LEVEL. AND TO YOUR POINT, WE CAN HAND OUT SWAG, WE CAN HAND OUT WATER, YOU CAN TAKE PICTURES OF THE FOURSOMES AS THEY COME THROUGH.

I MEAN, PEOPLE DO ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU WILL HAVE, BECAUSE OF YOUR MEMBERSHIP LEVEL, YOU DO ALREADY HAVE A LOGOED SIGN THAT WILL BE PLACED AT A TEE.

IF YOU WANT TO BE PRESENT AT A TEE, YOU WOULD BE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CHOOSE OR SIT WITH YOUR SIGN. WE ALSO, THROUGHOUT THE DAY, DRIVE AROUND BECAUSE WE USUALLY HAVE EXTRA BREAKFAST. AND SO ANY VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE THERE TAKE TURNS DRIVING AROUND AND TAKING THAT TO THE GOLFERS. BECAUSE AGAIN UNLESS THEY COME THROUGH TO THE RESTROOM, THEY DON'T COME BACK TO US.

WE ALSO TRY TO HAVE WATERS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE TAKE OUT THERE, MAKE SURE WE'RE DRINKING OTHER THINGS. SO THERE'S VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES, BUT DEFINITELY WANTING TO DO MORE KIND OF INTERACTIVE KIND OF THINGS AT THE T'S, SO YOU'D BE MORE THAN WELCOME TO THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

ALL RIGHT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS, BETH. WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS, RIGHT? BEFORE YOU DO THE MOTION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO VOTE SINCE I'M A CHAMBER AMBASSADOR. I DON'T WORK FOR THEM, BUT I'M THE AMBASSADOR, SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A CONFLICT. YOU'RE NOT ON THE BOARD OR AN EMPLOYEE.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GET A MOTION? A MOTION FOR J6 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE GOLF TOURNAMENT SPONSORSHIP FOR US TO APPROVE.

APPROVING THE SPONSORSHIP OF THE HET SPONSORSHIP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I GOT A MOTION MADE BY MS. HENDERSON.

I SECOND THAT MOTION. SECOND BY MR. THORNTON. AND WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE. HEY JIM, THAT MOTION WAS GOOD ENOUGH, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. NO, WE'RE GOOD. ALRIGHT, DISCUSSING POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS.

[J.7. Group Tour of Princeton with City Council, CDC, and EDC]

SO WE HAVE TIED DOWN THE STAR OF THE SHOW TODAY.

CHIEF WATERS HAS AGREED TO BE THE TOUR GUIDE, BORN AND RAISED HERE, AND I THINK I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE I'VE SAT THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH HIM WHERE HE GAVE A MINI HISTORY LESSON ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF PRINCETON THAT I HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD BEFORE. I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO REFINE.

KIND OF THE AGENDA FOR THE DAY, BUT WE'LL LEASE A MINIBUS THAT'LL HOLD ENOUGH PEOPLE. WE'LL DO A TOUR THAT'LL TAKE A COUPLE HOURS, AND IT'LL INCLUDE SOME OF THE PROJECT SITES, SOME OF OUR PARK IMPROVEMENTS, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH, KIND OF WHERE SOME OF THE CORE PARKS ARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LEASING. I HAVEN'T BEEN TO TWO OF THE THREE, SO IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT PARKS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO WE CAN ENVISION THOSE, AND WE CAN INCLUDE ANYTHING ELSE. JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT GOING FROM THE VERY NORTHERN TIP OF PRINCETON TO THE SOUTHERN TIP IS ALREADY A 32-MINUTE DRIVE IF YOU DON'T MAKE ANY STOPS.

SO IF WE WANT TO SPEND A COUPLE HOURS, WE'LL FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS, DO A LITTLE BIT DOWNTOWN, AND THEN END WITH A LUNCHEON.

NOW, ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS IS, WHEN DO WE WANT TO DO IT? YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WORK. CAN YOU GET OFF WORK AND DO IT DURING THE WEEK? DO WE NEED TO DO IT ON A SATURDAY? WHAT IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE? THE STAFF WILL SUPPORT WHATEVER WE NEED TO, BUT IF THERE'S ENOUGH ADVANCE NOTICE, CAN YOU DO IT DURING THE WEEKDAY? OR IS THERE A DAY DURING THE WEEK THAT YOU'RE MORE FLEXIBLE THAN OTHERS? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THOSE, SO WE NEED SOME FEEDBACK FROM

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ALL RIGHT, I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I CAN MAKE MOST ANY DAY WORK AS LONG AS I HAVE NOTICE.

SAME. I JUST NEED ADVANCE NOTICE AT LEAST A WEEK OR TWO.

THE TOUR, YOU'RE INCLUDING THE ETJ, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

YEAH. AND LIKE, I'M THE SAME.

JUST GIVE ME NOTICE AND I'M AVAILABLE. SAME HERE.

FOR ME, MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS ARE BETTER, BUT AS LONG AS I HAVE ENOUGH NOTICE, I CAN MAKE IT WORK, PROBABLY. WOULD YOU PREFER TO DO A WEEKDAY OR A WEEKEND DAY? IF WE CAN DO A FRIDAY MORNING OR WHATEVER, DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY? UNLESS WE GO FURTHER INTO THE FALL, IT'S GOING TO BE 105 EVERY DAY FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A BREAK. TWO WEEKS FROM NOW THE HIGH IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE 99, SO GOT A COLD FRONT COMING THROUGH.

BUT NO, WOULD YOU RATHER DO IT ON A.

THURSDAY OR FRIDAY MORNING? WOULD YOU RATHER DO IT ON A SATURDAY MORNING? I MEAN LIKE I CAN MAKE A FRIDAY LIKE I CAN MAKE A FRIDAY MORNING WORKS BETTER. I RATHER NOT GIVE UP MY SATURDAY MORNINGS. I MEAN I DO LIKE TO SLEEP IN SOMETIMES.

FRIDAYS. GOT TO GET UP ANYWAY FOR WORK, SO. OKAY. SATURDAY.

SO IF WE LOOK AT THURSDAYS AND FRIDAY MORNINGS, YOU SAID FRIDAY'S BETTER THAN THURSDAY FOR YOU? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S GOOD FEEDBACK.

[K. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION MAY ENTER INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODES, SECTIONS 55.071, CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY. OR ANY ELIGIBLE AGENDA ITEM, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 55.072, DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY AND OR TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.087, DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

JIM, DO I NEED TO NAME ALL THESE? PROJECT HOOK'EM? YEAH, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO NAME THE SECTION BEHIND IT. YOU CAN JUST SAY NAME THE PROJECT.

OKAY, SO JUST NAME ALL. SO PROJECT HOOK'EM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO INCLUDE 55108. GOTCHA.

OKAY. PROJECT HOOK'EM, PROJECT RED, PROJECT A'NDAL'E, PROJECT HOMETOWN, PROJECT SCHOLAR, PROJECT BHAG, PROJECT RED, PROJECT TIMBER, PROJECT BUFF.

AND WE ARE ENTERING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE TIME IS 724 P. M. WE'LL BE A WHILE.

ALL RIGHTY, WE ARE COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. TIME IS 844 P. M. WITH NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN. I WILL TAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.

THAT'S SECOND. MOTION MADE BY MR. THORNTON, SECOND BY MS. HENDERSON. ALL IN FAVOR, JUST LEAVE. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.