[A. CALL TO ORDER-MAYOR] [00:00:02] ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED. THE TIME IS 6:05. AND THIS WILL START OFF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING. I'LL CALL TO ORDER. MR. DAVID-GRAVES IS NOT HERE. MISS TODD IS NOT HERE. MR. JOHNSON. HERE. MR. WASHINGTON IS NOT HERE. MR. RUTLEDGE. HERE. MR. DEFFIBAUGH. HERE. MR. LONG. HERE. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE QUORUM. THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA. [C. WORK SESSION AGENDA] 2026-198. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY OF PRINCETON 2026 WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE, INCLUDING PROJECTED WATER DEMANDS AND WASTEWATER FLOWS, EXISTING SYSTEM CONDITIONS AND CAPACITY IDENTIFIED INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND NEAR-TERM PRIORITIES TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S CONTINUED GROWTH AND LONG TERM WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM RELIABILITY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS IS RIFAT ALAM, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. TONIGHT WE ARE PRESENTING THE FUTURE OF PRINCETON, OUR UPDATE FOR THE 2026 WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN. THIS IS AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE PRINCETON'S INFRASTRUCTURE IS LOOKING AHEAD. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MAJOR PROJECTS IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THIS MASTER PLAN EFFORT, WHICH WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT WATER CAPACITY AND TO ENSURE THAT WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SUPPLY AND DISTRIBUTE THAT WATER THROUGHOUT OUR SYSTEM WHILE MAINTAINING THE STORAGE IN OUR MID TERM AND AS WELL AS BUILD OUT. WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM. HOW THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THE POTENTIAL OF I&I WOULD IMPACT IN THE FUTURE. THE PRESENTATION AND ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL INFO WILL BE COVERED BY KIMLEY-HORN. I AM GOING TO INVITE WILLIAM STEWART IN THE DAIS, AND THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM ONLY. AFTER THE PRESENTATION, THIS WOULD BE AN OPEN ITEM FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND QUERIES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ON. AGAIN, SO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. MY NAME IS STEWART WILLIAMS AND I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE THAT WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED FOR THE CITY OF PRINCETON. SO YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKET BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. SO THIS IS THE DETAILED REPORT. I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERY ITEM ON THIS TONIGHT, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO WALK THROUGH AND HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR BOTH THE WATER MASTER PLAN AND THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN. SO THE FIRST THING WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WAS THE WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE. SO THIS PICTURE THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE IS A PICTURE OF A COUPLE OF YOUR EXISTING AND BRAND NEW PUMPS AND THE DOGWOOD PUMP STATION. SO THESE PUMPS ARE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE UPGRADES OF SIMILAR TYPE PROJECTS THAT WE'LL BE IDENTIFYING IN THIS WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE. SO THE FIRST SLIDE I'VE PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU TONIGHT IS A PROJECTIONS OF YOUR GROWTH AND YOUR BUILD OUT GROWTH. SO AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF PRINCETON PROVIDES WATER TO ONE WHOLESALE CUSTOMER. AND THAT'S THE CITY OF. OR THAT'S THE CULLEOKA WATER SUPPLY. AND SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT AND EVALUATING YOUR WATER MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY TO BOTH STORE, PUMP AND PROVIDE WATER DOWN TO THEIR TAKE POINT. SO THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT INCLUDE BOTH THE CULLEOKA AND THE PRINCETON WATER COUNTS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING COMBINED SYSTEMS GOT APPROXIMATELY 22,000 CONNECTIONS. AND OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE'RE PROJECTING A LITTLE MORE THAN 24,000 CONNECTIONS COMING INTO THE SYSTEM. SO MORE THAN DOUBLING BETWEEN BOTH OF THOSE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE CORRESPONDING WATER INFORMATION. I MEAN THE CORRESPONDING DEMAND SIMILARLY DOUBLES AS WELL. AND SO THESE PROJECTIONS FOR THE TEN YEAR PLAN. SO THIS TEN YEAR GROWTH WAS IDENTIFIED UTILIZING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY KNOW ARE COMING THAT ARE IN SOME STAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THOSE ARE BUILT OUT HERE IN. I MEAN, THEY'RE EXPLAINED IN THE ACTUAL REPORT, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN GOING FROM THE TEN YEAR TO THE BUILD OUT, THAT WAS DEVELOPED UTILIZING THE ONGOING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND UTILIZING THOSE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS TO PROJECT THAT FUTURE GROWTH. AND SO UTILIZING THOSE SYSTEM GROWTH NUMBERS, WE CAME UP WITH A MASTER PLAN FOR THE REQUIRED SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO UPGRADE YOUR SYSTEM. SO WE DIVIDED THOSE INTO FOUR MAJOR AREAS, THE FIRST BEING PUMP STATIONS, SECOND BEING ELEVATED STORAGE, [00:05:08] THE NEXT BEING GROUND STORAGE, AND THEN THE FINAL COMPONENT BEING ACTUAL WATER LINES. SO FROM A PUMP STATION STANDPOINT, THE MAJOR TAKEAWAY FROM THE REPORT IS THAT WE ARE NOT PROJECTING THAT THE CITY OF PRINCETON NEEDS ADDITIONAL PUMP STATIONS. SO CURRENTLY YOU GUYS ARE SERVED BY TWO PUMP STATIONS. SO THAT'S YOUR DOGWOOD PUMP STATION AND YOUR RICHARD SHEEHAN PUMP STATION. SO THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS REPORT IS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN WE CAN UPGRADE BOTH OF THOSE STATIONS. THERE'S ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL GROWTH IN TERMS OF BOTH THE PUMPS AND THE GROUND STORAGE TANKS AT BOTH OF THOSE SITES TO SERVE THE CITY THROUGH BUILD OUT. AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE BUILD OUT PLAN AND THE TEN YEAR PLAN. SO FROM THE ELEVATED STORAGE STANDPOINT, WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL TANKS. SO THAT'S YOUR WATER TOWERS LIKE YOU SAW ON THE TITLE SLIDE THERE. WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S BEING YOUR NORTH ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN AND SCHEDULED FOR DESIGN COMPLETION AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. AND SO THAT'S JUST ON THE WEST SIDE OF YOUR WHITE WING TRAILS DEVELOPMENT. AND WE IDENTIFIED ONE FINAL TANK IN THE BUILD OUT DOWN IN THE SOUTH OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 452. THEN FROM A STORAGE STANDPOINT, WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL TANK IDENTIFIED AT THE DOGWOOD PUMP STATION AND THEN ONE ADDITIONAL TANK AT THE RICHARD SHEEHAN STATION. AND THEN FROM A WATER LINE STANDPOINT, WE'VE DEVELOPED PRIMARILY JUST THE. OVERALL, YOUR WATER SYSTEM IS IN GOOD SHAPE. THERE'S A FEW LINES THAT ARE NECESSARY IN THE TEN YEAR TO SERVE THE FUTURE 2 MILLION ELEVATED TANK THAT I IDENTIFIED FOR COUNTY ROAD 452. BUT PRIMARILY IT'S REPLACING LINES THAT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT ARE TOWARDS THE END OF THEIR LIVES ARE EITHER UNDERSIZED AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING LINES THAT ARE BASICALLY DEVELOPER FUNDED WATER LINES THAT SERVE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE MORE TOWARDS THE PERIPHERY OF THE SYSTEM. SO THE MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 34 DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. AND WE TOOK THOSE AND WE BROKE THEM DOWN INTO THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. SO THE FIRST BEING CAPACITY DRIVEN THAT ARE MORE LIKE CITY FUND AND CITY LED PROJECTS. SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED SEVEN PROJECTS THAT WE PUT INTO THAT CATEGORY. AND THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE THERE BESIDE THEM. SO THAT IS AN AGGREGATE TOTAL OF THE ESTIMATED OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COST WITH AN ENGINEERING FACTOR IN THERE AS WELL, FOR THE COMBINED AMOUNT OF THOSE PROJECTS. SO THOSE SUMMED UP TO APPROXIMATELY $46 MILLION, AGAIN, OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. ALSO IN THIS BUCKET, WE HAD DEVELOPER DRIVEN PROJECTS. THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT, THESE SUPPORT FUTURE SUBDIVISIONS AND MORE SPECIFIC SUBDIVISIONS RATHER THAN THE WHOLE SYSTEM. AND SO THERE'S ABOUT TEN OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT TOTAL TO SOME OF APPROXIMATELY $17 MILLION. AND THEN FINALLY, CONDITION BASED REPLACEMENTS. SO THESE ARE PROJECTS PRIMARILY IN YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA, IN THE OLD PART OF THE CITY THAT ARE TOWARDS THE END OF THEIR LIFE, AND THAT WE'RE REPLACING AGING AND UNDERSIZED WATER MAINS. AND THAT SUMS TO APPROXIMATELY 17 PROJECTS FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT $7 MILLION FOR ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS. AND THEN FINALLY, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SEVEN PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE BUILD OUT THAT WE DIDN'T PUT COST ESTIMATES TO, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE MORE THAN TEN YEARS OUT ON THE HORIZON. AND SO, A COUPLE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE NORTH ELEVATED NORTH ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. THIS IS A 3 MILLION GALLON STORAGE TANK THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN AGAIN. THE DESIGN COMPLETION IS SCHEDULED FOR THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE HOPING TO MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION SOON AFTER THAT. SO THE TOTAL FOR THAT PROJECT, THE ESTIMATED COST IS APPROXIMATELY $19.4 MILLION. AND THEN THE SECOND HIGHEST RECOMMENDED PROJECT IS THE DOGWOOD PUMP STATION GROUND STORAGE TANK. THE ESTIMATED COST ON THAT IS APPROXIMATELY $4.4 MILLION. AND THIS ONE IS NOT CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN, BUT IT'S RECOMMENDED TO START DESIGN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ON THIS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF PRINCETON IS AT APPROXIMATELY 50% OF THEIR MAX DAY DEMAND IN GROUND STORAGE. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE FACTOR THAT WE LOOK AT BEFORE WHEN WE START RECOMMENDING MORE GROUND STORAGE. AND THAT'S JUST TO GIVE THE CITY TIME TO REPAIR ANY THAT'S. NOT NECESSARILY THE CITY, BUT NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, TIME TO REPAIR ANY MAIN BREAKS OR ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN TO DISRUPT SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF PRINCETON. SORRY, I GOT A QUESTION. YES. SO ON THIS SLIDE HERE, IT SHOWS THE NORTH ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS $19.4 MILLION. BUT IN THE MAIN MASTER PLAN, IT HAS THAT NORTH ELEVATED STORAGE TANK LISTED AS $21.6 MILLION. SO IT'S A $2 MILLION DIFFERENCE. YES, SIR. AND SO THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT/ THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT PARTICULAR ONE, [00:10:04] THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE ENGINEERING. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ACTUAL THAT COST ESTIMATE, THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE ENGINEERING. AND SO AS WE LOOKED AT THIS AND WE PUT IT TOGETHER, IT WAS THAT WE JUST APPLIED. BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AGAIN, SINCE WE'RE UNDER DESIGN AND WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT OUR ENGINEERING FEES ARE AND ALL THAT, WE'VE TAKEN THAT OUT OF THERE. SO I TRY TO PROVIDE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE NUMBER OF WHAT THAT WOULD COST. THE THING IS, THE TOTAL COST STILL CAME OUT TO $46 MILLION JUST DESPITE IT BEING LISTED AS $21 MILLION ON THE MAY MASTER PLAN. AND THEN IT'S STILL $46 MILLION. THERE'S NO VARIANCE, NO DIFFERENCE IN THE TOTAL. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE. OR AS I PREPARED THIS, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO JUST MAKE THIS MATCH WITHIN THIS REPORT. BUT AGAIN, WITH THE NUMBER THAT I PUT UP RIGHT THERE FOR YOU NOW, I TRY TO JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE. IT'S THE 19 MILLION? YES, SIR. AND AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT PROJECT IS ALREADY UNDER DESIGN. AND WE'RE MORE CONFIDENT IN THE ESTIMATE ON THAT PROJECT. SO THAT ONE'S, AGAIN, AT A DIFFERENT PLANNING STAGE THAN THE REST OF THE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED HERE IN THE MASTER PLAN. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY. MR. JOHNSON, IF I MAY, REAL QUICK. ALSO, WE KIND OF RUN INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DESIGN ISSUES WITHIN THAT WHITE WING. SO WE ARE GOING OVER A LITTLE BIT OF THE FLOODWAY ISSUE. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT A LITTLE BIT OF THE ROAD, MAYBE LOOK AT SOME BRIDGES TOO AS WELL. AND SO SOME OF THOSE FIGURES WERE KIND OF ROUNDED UP TO KIND OF HELP ALLOCATE THOSE COSTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. YEAH. AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO, AGAIN, RESTATE THAT THE COST THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, THOSE ARE AS, YOU KNOW, STUART SAID, THOSE ARE PLANNING LEVEL COST. ENGINEER'S OPINION OF PROBABLE COST. SO THEY HAVE PUT SOME FACTOR AS A CONTINGENCY. AND OUR EXPECTATION WOULD BE BY THE TIME WE ARE IMPLEMENTING EACH OF THOSE PROJECT, THE COST SHOULD NOT EXCEED ON WHAT IS ALREADY THERE IN THE MASTER PLAN BASED ON DESIGN. IF THE ENGINEERING TEAM, WHOEVER WOULD BE THE INDIVIDUAL DESIGNER FOR EACH OF THOSE PROJECT, BASED ON EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS. IF POSSIBLE, THE COST SHOULD BE EQUAL OR LESS. NOW, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY CHAIN AND LOGISTICS, UNKNOWNS CAN HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD, AS AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT FINAL DESIGN. THE COST ARE AGAIN PLANNING LEVEL COST. BUT ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD BE THE TARGET. SO THE COST THAT YOU ARE SEEING IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS GIVES THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY RANK THE PROJECT AND GIVES US AN OPINION OF PROBABLE COST. THE FINAL COST FOR CONSTRUCTION WOULD ALWAYS DEPEND ON AFTER THE DESIGN. AND ONCE WE DO THE OPEN BIDDING. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I GET THAT PORTION OF IT AS FAR AS THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME. I THINK MY CONCERN WAS BECAUSE IT'S ON BOTH OF THESE GIFTS, TOTAL COST. SO IF TWO PLUS TWO EQUALS FOUR ON ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS, AND THEN THE TOTAL IS STILL THE SAME, AND THEN THIS ONE SAYS THREE PLUS THREE EQUALS FOUR, THE TOTAL SHOULD MATCH THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE GIVING IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. SO I'M SAYING THE $19.4 MILLION ON THIS PRESENTATION STILL COMES OUT TO $46 MILLION IN TOTAL, VERSUS THE $21 MILLION BEING PLACED ON THE ACTUAL MASTER PLAN. AND THE TOTAL STILL COMES OUT AS 46. AND THERE'S NO OTHER DIFFERENCES IN THE NUMBER. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DOCUMENTS. I KNOW THAT THEY'LL CHANGE, BUT THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TO US IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE MATCHING UP. YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. AND WE STILL HAVE SOME TIME. WE CAN CHANGE THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE. AGAIN, THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS ONE HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN FURTHER ALONG IN DESIGN. AND AS RIFAT MENTIONED, AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN DESIGN, WE CAN REFINE THESE OPINIONS OF COST BETTER. AND HOPEFULLY THEY COME DOWN. BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THERE. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE WATER BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE WASTEWATER? OKAY. SO NEXT, THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE. SO AGAIN, SIMILARLY IN THE IN THE WASTEWATER IN THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, WE'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY 22,000 SEWER CONNECTIONS FOR THIS. IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 45,000 CONNECTIONS TOTAL. SO AGAIN, APPROXIMATELY DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS AND COMING TO A BUILD OUT CONNECTION COUNT OF APPROXIMATELY 57,000 CONNECTIONS FOR THE COMBINED PRINCETON SEWER CCN. ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL MENTION, SO WE'VE MENTIONED. [00:15:04] OR WE SHOWED THE FLOWS ON THERE, BUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPHS THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE PEAKING FACTOR. SO AGAIN, IN SANITARY SEWER DESIGN, THE PEAKING FACTOR IS THE RATIO OF THE INSTANTANEOUS PEAK FLOW TO THE AVERAGE FLOW. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT EXISTING NUMBER IS APPROXIMATELY 5.2. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WE'VE PROJECTED THAT NUMBER TO ACTUALLY GROW AS THE CITY GETS LARGER. TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS IN CITIES AS THEY GET BIGGER. GENERALLY, AS CITIES GET BIGGER, THE PEAKING FACTOR GETS SMALLER BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BIGGER AREA TO GO THROUGH THERE. BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE REASONS FOR WHY THAT IS AND WHY WE'VE MADE THOSE PROJECTIONS AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN THIS PRESENTATION. AND SO THE MAIN REASON WHY WE'VE MADE THOSE CHANGES IS FROM SANITARY SEWER FLOW MONITORING. SO AS A PART OF THIS MASTER PLAN, WE PUT 17 FLOW METERS OUT IN SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM FROM APRIL THROUGH JUNE OF LAST YEAR TO MONITOR WHAT THE FLOW ACTUALLY WAS IN THEM. SO WE'RE NOT GUESSING WHAT THE FLOW IS IN YOUR SYSTEM. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. AND SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF SITES THAT CAME IN REALLY HIGH, MUCH HIGHER THAN TYPICAL. SO A TYPICAL SANITARY SEWER PEAKING FACTOR IS AROUND FOUR. AND SO YOU CAN SEE IN A COUPLE OF THESE SITES, WE'VE HAD PEAKING FACTORS OF APPROXIMATELY ALMOST 16 AND EVEN UP TO AS HIGH AS 25. SO THE ONES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA ARE PRETTY EASILY IDENTIFIABLE. THEY'RE FROM OLD MAINS THAT HAVE REACHED THE END OF THEIR LIFE. THE ONE THAT'S NOT AS EASILY EXPLAINABLE IS THE ONE FROM THE EAST RIDGE SUBDIVISION. SO THIS IS BASICALLY A BRAND NEW INTERCEPTOR UP ON THE FAR NORTHERN END OF YOUR SYSTEM THAT SHOWED A PEAKING FACTOR OF ALMOST 16. AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY THE REASON WHY WE'VE SHOWN OR WHY WE'VE PROJECTED OUT NUMBERS THAT ARE AS HIGH AS THEY ARE IN PEAKING FACTORS THAT ARE AS HIGH AS THEY ARE BECAUSE OF THIS PEAKING FACTOR THAT WE'RE SEEING AGAIN, IN A BRAND NEW AREA. SO WE'LL GET TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE THAT. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WAS BASICALLY THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION OF THIS REPORT IS THAT THE CITY OF PRINCETON NEEDS TO FIND WAYS TO MITIGATE THIS INFILTRATION AND INFLOW INTO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM BECAUSE IT AFFECTS YOUR SIZING, AND IT AFFECTS THE COST FOR TREATMENT AND PUMPING AND EVERYTHING TO NORTH TEXAS. SO WE IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 24 PROJECTS IN THREE CATEGORIES FOR THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. SO SIMILARLY TO THE WATER SIDE, WE BROKE IT DOWN INTO CAPACITY DRIVEN PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE CITY FUNDED. THAT INCLUDED UPSIZING MAIN GRAVITY SANITARY SEWER TRUNK LINES AND ADDING GRAVITY CAPACITY TO YOUR SYSTEM. THEN WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED THAT WERE TRIGGERED BY NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO THESE ARE OUT IN THE PERIPHERY OF THE SYSTEM. AND THOSE ARE PRIMARILY DEVELOPER DRIVEN. AND THEN, AGAIN, CONDITION BASED ASSESSMENTS. 17 PROJECTS IN YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA THAT INCLUDE REPLACING PROJECTS THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE HIGH INFLOW AND INFILTRATION THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN YOUR SYSTEM. AND THEN 15 PROJECTS ESTIMATED IN THE BUILD OUT. SO PROJECT NUMBER ONE, AS I KIND OF MENTIONED, THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE IDENTIFIED AS YOUR FIRST PRIORITY FOR THE CITY. SO THIS IS INFLOW AND INFILTRATION CONTROL, STUDY AND MITIGATION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN CAUSE THIS, INCLUDING POOR MANHOLES THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE. CRACKED PIPES, JOINTS THAT ARE LEAKING, THINGS OF THIS NATURE. BUT ESSENTIALLY GROUNDWATER GETS IN. SO THE RECOMMENDED STUDY AREA FOR THIS AGAIN IS EAST RIDGE. SO THIS IS YOUR MAIN TRUNK LINE THAT'S ON THE FAR NORTH END OF YOUR SYSTEM SERVING EAST RIDGE, SOUTH RIDGE, SICILY AND MONTICELLO. AND THEN FINALLY THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS NOT AS MUCH OF AN UNKNOWN. WE KNOW WHERE THE BAD LINES ARE DOWNTOWN. WE JUST GOT TO GET OUT AND FIX THEM. WHEREAS THE EAST RIDGE AND THE NORTHERN INTERCEPTOR IS MORE OF A. WE'VE GOT TO GO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S A RELATIVELY NEW SYSTEM, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE SEEING PEAKING FACTORS THAT HIGH IN IT. AND IT PAYS RIGHT THERE IN THE KIND OF THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF THE SLIDE HERE. WHY DO WE WANT TO DO THAT? BECAUSE IF WE CAN BRING THE PEAKING FACTORS DOWN IN THERE, THERE ARE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THIS WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN THAT COULD BE COMPLETELY ELIMINATED OR POTENTIALLY REDUCED IN SIZE, IF WE CAN GET THAT I&I UNDER CONTROL. SO IT SAVES EVERYONE A LOT OF MONEY IF WE'RE NOT TRANSPORTING RAINWATER AND WE'RE JUST TRANSPORTING SEWAGE DOWN OUR PIPES. SO THE HIGHEST PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR THIS. THE FIRST ONE IS AN UPSIZE OF THE TICKEY CREEK TRUNK LINE. YES. OKAY. SO YOU WERE OUR ENGINEERS. THOSE NEW PROJECTS THAT CAME THROUGH WENT THROUGH YOUR OFFICES FOR REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE MET THE STANDARDS AND THE NECESSARY NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. [00:20:07] SO AS OUR ENGINEERS, YOU APPROVE THOSE, AS YOU SAID, NEW AND RECENT PROJECTS STATING THAT THEY DID IN FACT, MEET THE CRITERIA. AND YOU ARE HERE TODAY TELLING US THAT THEY DO NOT AND WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING ISSUES WITH THE VERY INFRASTRUCTURE YOUR OFFICES APPROVED, FOR US TO THEN APPROVE FOR THEM TO BUILD. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? SURE. SO THE POTENTIAL CAUSES OF THAT. I MEAN, AGAIN, AS THE CITY OF PRINCETON REVIEW ENGINEERS, WE ARE REVIEWING FOR. WE ARE REVIEWING FOR HOW THE DESIGN MEETS THE CITY STANDARDS, AS YOU MENTIONED, BUT WE CANNOT CONTROL INSTALLATION OF THAT. SO IN THE FIELD, IF IT'S INSTALLED IMPROPERLY, THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MAIN CULPRIT. AGAIN, I CANNOT SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THIS COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS SOMEONE LEAVING A MANHOLE LID OFF. IF THERE'S A MANHOLE LID OFF IN A CREEK BED SOMEWHERE AND STORMWATER IS SIMPLY FLOWING DIRECTLY INTO IT. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A TYPE OF SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IS OUTSIDE THE CONTROL OF ENGINEERING. IT'S SIMPLY INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE SYSTEM. DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW? I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE OUR DIRECTOR FOR THIS. OH, YEAH. WE DO. OUR MAINTENANCE BONDS. IT WOULD BE BETWEEN YOU AND KELLY. THE MAINTENANCE BONDS FOR THESE NEW AREAS BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDER BIDS. SO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT UPGRADE. SO THERE'S TWO YEARS. SO WHEN DID THOSE GET INITIATED, ARE WE STILL UNDER A MAINTENANCE BOND? AND IF SO WHY HAVEN'T WE IMMEDIATELY ACTIVATED THE MAINTENANCE BOND TO HAVE THAT LOOKED INTO AND FIXED? COUNCIL MEMBER, SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE THE EXACT DATE, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY GATHER SOME MORE INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, GET SOME ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP IN FRONT OF YOU, IF YOU ALLOW US. I MEAN, YES, IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING THAT WE'RE HERE HEARING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE JUST APPROVED FAILING AND WE'RE NOT ALSO COMING IN WITH, HEY, WE LOOKED AT OUR MAINTENANCE BOND AND HERE'S THE INFORMATION AND HERE'S WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH INITIATING THAT TO GET IT INSPECTED. BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THE MAINTENANCE BOND ENDS, OUR TAXPAYERS WILL BE THE ONES PAYING TO EXPAND IT OR DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY OVER THERE. AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND. SO WHENEVER WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE OR SOMETHING FAILING AND WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE BOND, WE NEED TO BE ON THAT AND GET THAT INSPECTED IMMEDIATELY. WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTERNALLY AND WE WILL GET BRING A WORK SESSION ITEM TO HAVE OUR FINDINGS TO MAKE SURE THE WORKFLOW THAT WE HAVE FOR MAINTENANCE BOND AND WE'LL WORK WITH FINANCING TO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO CONTINUING. SO THE FIRST PROJECT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN IS AN UPSIZE OF THE TICKEY CREEK TRUNK LINE FROM A 24 INCH TO A 48 INCH. SO THIS IS YOUR MAIN GRAVITY SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT GOES FROM HIGHWAY 380 DOWN SOUTH TO THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT LIFT STATION. SO THIS IS YOUR MAIN TRUNK LINE. THE PICTURE YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE IS FROM THE EASTERN ONE THAT WAS DONE ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. AND NOW IT'S TIME TO UPSIZE THE WESTERN ONE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING INTERCEPTORS. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 95% UTILIZED. SO IT'S TIME TO START DESIGN ON THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THAT IS ABOUT $5.4 MILLION. AND THEN THE NEXT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED HERE ARE THE DOWNTOWN REHABILITATION PROJECTS. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'VE NOTED THAT THERE'S HIGH INFLOW AND INFILTRATION. SO THE FASTER THE CITY CAN FUND AND COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS, THE MORE WE CAN KNOCK DOWN THAT INFLOW AND INFILTRATION COMING FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO I JUST IDENTIFIED THE FIRST TWO, THE HIGHEST PRIORITY ONES ON THERE. IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO DO MORE, THAT WOULD BE BETTER. AND SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THEM AT THIS TIME. CAN I? YES. SO WEREN'T SOME OF THESE THINGS IDENTIFIED ALREADY IN THE 2017 MASTER DRAINAGE STUDY THAT WAS DONE AS PROJECTED THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO BE NECESSARY FOR THE CITY AS WE GREW AND WE ARE JUST NOW AGAIN HEARING FROM Y'ALL ABOUT IT? IS THAT NORMAL? OR WOULD IT? I GUESS I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT IF AN ENGINEERING COMPANY WORKED WITH THE CITY AND MADE A PLAN AND SAID LIKE, [00:25:08] HEY, HERE ARE ALL THESE WARNING FLAGS AND WE'RE COMING UP ON TEN YEARS ON THIS THING. TEN YEARS AGO WAS DONE, AT SOME POINT IN THOSE TEN YEARS BE LIKE, HEY, FLAGS, REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION? WE'RE HERE APPROVING ALL OF THIS. THESE THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN DONE YET. IS THAT JUST NOT A CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS WITH CITIES AND THEIR ENGINEERS? OR WHERE DOES THIS FALL? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF STAFF CHANGE OVER. AND SO I'M GETTING KIND OF TIRED OF EXPLAINING TO THE RESIDENTS THAT THAT'S THE EXCUSE FOR ALL THE THINGS FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS. BUT THAT WAS A VERY DETAILED MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN FROM 2017. AND AGAIN, YOUR COMPANY WENT BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING ON OCTOBER 21ST OF 2024 AND IDENTIFIED MAJOR AREAS OF CONCERN FOR THE CITY. AND THEN WHERE DID THAT CONVERSATION GO? SO IT'S JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING AND KNOWING THAT, LIKE WHEN YOU READ THE REPORTS, WE KNEW IT WAS COMING, SO. WELL, AGAIN. SO THIS IS. SO I GUESS JUST TO CLARIFY. SO WE DID A MASTER PLAN OR. SO YOU MENTIONED KIND OF A MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN AND THEN A SANITARY SEWER MASTER PLAN. SO THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS WAS IN 2017. AGAIN, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS UPDATE THOUGH IS TO GET THE LATEST AND GREATEST FLOW MONITORING IN THERE, DEVELOP A WASTEWATER MODEL AND PROJECT THOSE OUT. SO THE IMPROVEMENTS IDENTIFIED TONIGHT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OBVIOUSLY OF THE I&I ISSUES THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THERE. THESE UPDATES ARE PART OF. THESE ARE JUST PART OF THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. BUT ALSO, DIDN'T COUNCIL JUST APPROVE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ISH FOR THESE STUDIES TO HAPPEN ALREADY? DID WE NOT HAVE A. BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE ALL ABOUT THE SEWER AND ALL OF THAT. AND I HAD TO PUSH TO GET STORMWATER LOOKED AT. AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY SOMEWHERE. HAVE WE BEGUN ANYTHING WITH THAT COMPANY, TO START LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS FOR THE CITY AND REDOING THE MAPPING OF OUR NEEDS? YES, MA'AM. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT IS BEING LOOKED AT AND BEING CHANGED. Y'ALL DID ASK FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER TO END UP COMING BACK BEFORE COUNCIL. THIS WAS A PRIORITY THAT WE PUT BACK BEFORE COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY LIST OUT THE NEEDS THAT'S GOING TO BE HERE. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. SO OUR NEW DIRECTOR, MR. ALAM, HE IS LOOKING AT EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE DIFFERENT PHASES THAT'S THERE TO TRY TO TRIAGE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE THAT'S OUT THERE. AS FAR AS THE STUFF THAT WENT BEFORE COUNCIL IN 2017. I'M SORRY, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLEAR CUT EXPLANATION AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO TRIAGE THESE ISSUES AS THEY'RE APPROACHING. COULD YOU GO TO THE OH. I'M SORRY. I CAN ADVANCE THE SLIDES BACK AND FORTH. I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE SLIDE NUMBER 6 OR THE PAGE 6 ON IT. I'M SORRY. THIS GUY? THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN GO BACK ONE MORE. IT HAD THE CONNECTIONS ON IT. OKAY. FOR THE SEWER? THE ONE WITH THE CHART? YEAH. IT HAD A. THERE YOU GO. SO THE BUILD OUT IS $57,571. BUT ON THE PAGE WHERE IT HAD THE INTRODUCTION AND THE MASTER PLAN, IT HAD THE CONNECTIONS AS $57,804. SO IT'S A 233 DIFFERENCE IN THE CONNECTION. JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS A REASON AS TO WHY THE CHART SAID IT WAS, YOU KNOW, GAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER VERSUS THE APPROXIMATE BUILD OUT IN THE INTRODUCTION. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE ACTUAL REPORT? YES. SO WHEN IT PROVIDES THE. IN TABLE 1.1? IT SHOULD BE ON PAGE. WHAT IS IT? PAGE. SO PAGE 6? IT'S RIGHT IN THE INTRODUCTION OF THE BUILD OUT. IT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO CORRELATE WITH THOSE OR LIKE THE PRESENTATION IS SUPPOSED TO CORRELATE WITH THE MASTER PLAN OR NOT? OKAY. YES. I MEAN, IT IS SUPPOSED TO CORRELATE. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M LOOKING AT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF IT. IF THERE'S A PLACE IN THERE THAT'S. AND I MEAN, THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY MATCHES WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN. BUT IF WE'VE GOT. WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK THE REPORT ITSELF AND MAKE SURE. [00:30:06] IF IT'S A COUPLE HUNDRED. OKAY. 233 IS THE DIFFERENCE OF THE NUMBER. OKAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT, AND I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE LISTED HERE FOR RECOMMENDED STUDY AREA THAT THEY'RE SUBDIVISIONS. SOME OF THEM ARE FAIRLY NEW EXCEPT FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHENEVER IT RAINS AND THE STORM WATER AND GROUNDWATER GOES INTO TO OUR SEWER SYSTEM. IF THERE'S SOME MALFUNCTION OR LIKE YOU SAID, A MANHOLE COVER OFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A STORM WATER AREA DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR IT TO GO ANYWHERE EXCEPT DOWN THE ROAD AND ACROSS THE ROAD AND INTO A CREEK. BUT THESE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS, DO THEY HAVE STORMWATER DRAINS? PLUS WE HAVE THE WASTEWATER. AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT DID WE. WHENEVER THESE WERE DESIGNED, WERE THEY JUST DESIGNED UNDERSIZED WHAT THEY SHOULD BE NOT KNOWING THAT. I MEAN, WE KNEW THE GROWTH WAS COMING. SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S, YOU KNOW. WHY IT'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH, WHY IT'S NOT TAKING CARE OF THE WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE FLOW AND THE. WELL, LIKE I SAID. SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THAT IF WE CAN GET THIS INFO, I MEAN, YOU'RE KIND OF ASKING TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. SO THE FIRST IS HOW THEY WERE INITIALLY DESIGNED AND WE KNEW THE FLOW WAS COMING. YES. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE THAT'S WHAT I SAID BACK WITH THE PART THAT IF WE CAN GET THAT UNDER CONTROL, THEN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AREN'T EVEN NEEDED, RIGHT? IF WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT. AND THEN TO THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, AGAIN, PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION OF THIS STUDY IS WE NEED TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK OF MUCH CLOSER LOOK AT THAT AREA AND FIND OUT WHAT'S WRONG. AGAIN, IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS WE'VE GOT A LID AND A MANHOLE OFF AND THE CREEK IS DUMPING STRAIGHT INTO THE STREET. I MEAN, THE CREEK WOULD BE POTENTIALLY BE DUMPING STRAIGHT INTO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE. BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO INVESTIGATE AND RULE OUT SO THAT IF THERE IS AND IF WE CAN RULE THAT OUT AND THERE IS A MAINTENANCE PROBLEM OR AN ISSUE WITH SOME OF THESE LINES THAT'S CAUSING THAT INFLOW AND INFILTRATION, WE CAN GET ON TOP OF THAT AND FIX IT. AND ALSO, WHAT IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA? WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER THAT? THE DOWNTOWN AREA WE'RE CONSIDERING SOUTH OF MONTE CARLO AND NORTH OF 380, EAST OF YORKSHIRE GENERALLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SO WHEN YOU IDENTIFY THESE PROBLEMS, DO YOU ROUGHLY LIKE A WINDOW OF WHICH MONTHS IN WHICH YOU LOOKED AT IT? BECAUSE I DO KNOW THERE WAS A SEWER CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN. I MEAN, IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN BY THE PARK OFF TEAKWOOD THAT WAS DAMAGED. AND THE RESIDENT TRIED MANY TIMES FOR THE CITY TO COME FIX IT. AND THEN I HAD TO GET INVOLVED AND THEY WENT OUT THERE AND FIXED IT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO KNOW THAT. IT WAS IT BETWEEN APRIL AND JUNE IS WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT IT? YES, MA'AM. SO IT WAS BETWEEN APRIL AND JUNE OF 2025 IS WHEN THE FLOW METERS WERE ACTUALLY IN THE GROUND COLLECTING DATA THAT THIS IS BASED OFF OF. OKAY. SO THAT MAY HAVE SOME IMPACT IN SOME OF THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE IT WAS DEFINITELY DAMAGED. AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN REPAIRED. SO I WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. I'VE ALSO NOTICED A LOT OF CRACKING AROUND THE MANHOLES FOR SOME OF THOSE. LOOKS LIKE, EVEN LIKE CRUMBLING, LIKE WHERE THE TOP IS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE DOING INSPECTIONS TO ENSURE LIKE THE QUALITY OF WHEN THEY INSTALL THE STUFF? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE RELY ON THEIR ENGINEERS FOR SIGNING OFF ON? LIKE WHERE DOES THAT RESPONSIBILITY LIE ON ENSURING THAT KIND OF STRUCTURE IS DONE UP TO PAR TO PREVENT THAT KIND OF CRUMBLING AND CRACKING? SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S BOTH, YOU KNOW, ON THE CITY'S INSPECTOR AND, YOU KNOW. AGAIN, WE DO A FINAL. WE KIND OF DO A FINAL WALK THROUGH WITH THE CITY'S INSPECTOR. [00:35:04] SO I WOULD SAY THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DETERMINING THAT, AND AT LEAST THE INITIAL QUALITY LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WOULD FALL ON BOTH THE CITY AND WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. SIR, WOULD YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF THE SCHEDULE OF REVIEW? HOW OFTEN WOULD WE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM? AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT WOULD PRECIPITATE THAT REVIEW? AND THEN WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU WILL FIND THAT NEED TO BE REMEDIED JUST TO GIVE OUR RESIDENTS AN IDEA OF HOW THIS WORKS? YES, WE HAVE MADE APPROVALS. YES, WE HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS CODE, BUT I THINK JUST HAVING A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE WASTE WATER SYSTEM WORKS AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR YOU, AN ENGINEER DOING ONGOING MAINTENANCE, ONGOING REVIEW, ONGOING UPDATES BASED UPON POPULATION CHANGE USAGE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. JUST IF YOU WOULD GIVE THAT TO US, PLEASE. OKAY. SURE. SO TYPICALLY, IN THE PAST, WE'VE DONE SOME SMALLER SCALE FLOW MONITORING. SO FLOW FROM THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. FLOW MONITORING IS REALLY KIND OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT PIECE THAT WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT BECAUSE IT GIVES US A LOOK AT WHAT THE SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY DOING. AND SO WE'VE DONE THAT IN SMALLER BASINS AND ON A SMALLER SCALE TYPICALLY ON A MUCH MORE FREQUENT BASIS THAN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE LAST TIME THIS WAS LOOKED AT WAS TEN YEARS AGO. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE SHOULD BE DOING SOME SORT OF FLOW MONITORING ALMOST EVERY YEAR, MAYBE EVERY OTHER YEAR AT MOST TO WHERE WE KNOW WHAT THOSE FLOWS ACTUALLY ARE. AND WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING ARE HELPING US REDUCE THIS INFLOW AND INFILTRATION. BUT IN ANSWER TO THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD SAY LIKE, IN A RAPIDLY GROWING CITY LIKE THE CITY OF PRINCETON, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THIS MASTER PLAN BE UPDATED PROBABLY IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR SO. JUST AGAIN, BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS CHANGE, BECAUSE SO MUCH MORE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN. IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS. BECAUSE, AGAIN, THINGS CHANGE AND DENSITIES CHANGE, PLANS CHANGE. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THESE PEAKING FACTORS CHANGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO PRINCETON THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU TO SAY, WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT IT EVERY FIVE YEARS? AGAIN, REALLY JUST KIND OF THE RATE OF GROWTH. SO IF WE HAVE A SYSTEM AND WE HAVE A CITY WHERE THINGS ARE NOT CHANGING, THINGS ARE NOT GROWING QUICKLY, I WOULD SAY THAT COULD BE MOVED OUT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE GOING INTO THESE PLANS ARE NOT CHANGING AS QUICKLY AS A CITY THAT'S GROWING, AGAIN, AS QUICKLY AS THE CITY OF PRINCETON. SO I'D SAY IT'S REALLY THE RATE OF GROWTH THAT WOULD BE THE PRIMARY FACTOR AS TO HOW TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT AGAIN, THAT FINAL DECISION IS, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF. OKAY, GREAT. MISS TODD. SO I'M JUST HOPING THAT EVERYBODY UP HERE HEARD THAT FIVE YEARS IS THE NORMAL TIME TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS. BECAUSE FROM THE MOMENT I STARTED CAMPAIGNING, TO THIS DAY, FIGHTING TO GET THIS DONE HAS BEEN AN UPHILL BATTLE AND I HAVE BEEN PUSHED BACK ON BY THE MEMBERS UP HERE, TIME AND TIME AGAIN. WE ARE COMING UP ON TEN YEARS ON THIS PLAN. SO WHEN WE COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND IDENTIFY WHAT ELSE NEEDS DONE, I GUESS AS WE'RE REVIEWING IT AGAIN, I HOPE THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON UP HERE KEEPS THAT IN MIND, THAT OUR OWN ENGINEER HAS JUST SAID FIVE YEARS. OKAY. I FOUND THE. I'M SORRY, MAYOR. GO AHEAD. NO. YOU'RE GOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS RECOGNIZED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IN THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE DOCUMENT PAGE 3, RIGHT AFTER THE CHART, THE INTRODUCTION SAYS. AND I'M GOING TO SPEED THROUGH IT. SAYS THE CURRENT APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF CONNECTION OF THE CITY'S WASTEWATER SERVICE AREA IS 222,173 CONNECTIONS WITH A PROJECTED BUILD OUT OF ROUGHLY 57,804 CONNECTIONS. BUT THE PRESENTATION HAS IT AS 57,571. YES, SIR. [00:40:04] THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. THAT'S JUST AN ERROR IN THE NUMBER OF CALCULATIONS AND IN OTHER PLACES IN THE REPORT WE HAVE IT AT THAT 57571. YOU'RE CORRECT THAT. THE ADDITIONAL 804 IS JUST THE 571? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THAT'S AS SHOWN IN TABLE 1.1 THERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE CAN CONTINUE. IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I'VE GONE BACK THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN. I'M TRYING TO GO OFF SOME NOTES. THE FORMER CHAIR OF PLANNING AND ZONING HAD BROUGHT UP THE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I'M TRYING TO GO BACK ON NOTES THAT HE HAD MENTIONED DURING MEETINGS, AND I'M LOOKING AT PAGES 21, 31, AND 32, AND WE ARE LIKE. YOU ARE REPEATING TO THIS COUNCIL THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID TO THIS COUNCIL ABOUT NEEDS FOR THIS CITY. AND I FIND THAT DEEPLY CONCERNING THAT AT SOME POINT I NEED STAFF AND COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO IGNORE THIS PROBLEM AND LET THESE THINGS GET IGNORED AND CONTINUE AND TAKE ON MORE AND MORE, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT 6000 MORE HOMES COMING UP THERE WITH EAST RIDGE. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT WILL HAPPEN? WELL, SURE. SO IN THAT EAST RIDGE SUBDIVISION PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SO ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE LISTED, AND I CAN GO LOOK AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED IS AN UPSIZE OF THAT, WHAT'S ALREADY A 36 INCH OR IT'S EITHER 30 OR 36 INCH SANITARY SEWER MAIN. ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED IN YOUR TEN YEAR PLAN IS TO UPSIZE THAT MAIN TRUNK LINE. SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S NOT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR. IT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR OVERFLOWING OUT OF THE SYSTEM NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE IT COULD BE IF THAT PROJECT IS NOT DONE. AND THEN TO ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, LIKE FROM A SANITARY SEWER SIDE, IF WE'RE NOT UPGRADING EITHER, I MEAN, IN COMBINATION, BOTH UPGRADING THESE MAINS AND REDUCING THE INFLOW AND INFILTRATION, THEN WE'LL HAVE SANITARY SEWER SPILLS AND IT'LL BE COMING OUT OF THE TOPS OF MANHOLES AND INTO THE CREEKS DURING RAIN EVENTS. ALL RIGHT. SO I RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL UP HERE REVIEWS THE 2017 PLAN AND LOOKS AT 13 FOR THE OVERTOPPED ROADWAY CROSSINGS, 15 FOR IMPACTED PROPERTIES. LEGAL MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT ONE AS WELL. PAGE 15. AND 17 FOR THE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENT LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT SINCE 2017. ADDITIONALLY, JUST A COUPLE APPROVALS AGO, WE HAD PROPERTIES COMING IN, OR DEVELOPER CAME IN AND THEIR DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE SEWERS. AND WE HAD DISCUSSED HOW SOME WIDENING OR ADDITIONAL THINGS NEEDED TO HAPPEN THERE. WHY WASN'T THIS BROUGHT UP THEN WHEN IT WAS GOING THROUGH OUR ENGINEERS FOR APPROVAL WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS COMING THROUGH? AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE GOING UP FM 75 AND IT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK, FEEDING INTO THAT. SO WHEN WE IDENTIFIED THAT WE HAD TO DO SOME MORE WITH EASTRIDGE AND EXPANDING STUFF OR ADDING IN [00:45:05] MORE PIPES AND EVERYTHING, THAT COMES FROM YOU, IDENTIFYING PROBLEMS WITH DEVELOPMENTS. SO WHY DIDN'T THIS CONVERSATION COME UP AT THAT TIME? SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SANITARY SEWER OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE? THE SEWER WE HAVE THERE DUE TO THE SEWERS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN PIPES. OH, I KNOW WHAT IT WAS. IT'S THAT LAND THAT EASTRIDGE HAD US. IT'S THEIR OWN STUFF. IT'S THE STUFF THAT'S OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS. AND WE HAD TO MAKE THE WATER AGREEMENT FOR WHEN WE REVISED THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO IT WAS ACTUALLY PAST THEM. SO THEY HAVE STUFF OUTSIDE OUR CITY LIMITS THAT WE HAD TO AGREE TO GIVE THEM WATER FOR AND EVERYTHING. AND WHEN THAT WAS DONE, WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH. LIKE THE PIPES WEREN'T BIG ENOUGH FOR THAT. AND SO THEY EITHER HAD TO GO IN AND REPLACE THEM AND MAKE THEM BIGGER OR ADD ADDITIONAL ONES TO GO THROUGH, WHICH WAS IDENTIFIED BY OUR OWN ENGINEERS AS A PROBLEM. SO NOW WE ARE ALSO SAYING THAT WE KNOW THIS, BUT ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT WE'RE TAKING ON OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS STUFF WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, OUR ABILITY TO SUSTAIN THE GROWTH IS BASICALLY FAILING IN THAT SAME AREA. SO AT THAT TIME, WHY DIDN'T WE ALSO TALK ABOUT, HEY, EASTRIDGE, IT'S YOUR PROPERTIES, YOUR PIPES. AND IN THAT MOMENT, MAKE THEM MAKE IT BIGGER THROUGH THE AGREEMENT? YOU ALL IDENTIFIED IT AS A PROBLEM. POINT OF ORDER. LIKE THE CONTEXT IN WHICH YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTION IS, I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE, I MEAN. GREAT POINTS, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S OUT OF CONTEXT IN TERMS OF THE MASTER PLAN BEING PRESENTED TO US. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. YEAH. I THINK THAT THIS WHOLE DEAL NEEDS TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL AND JUST KIND OF DISCUSS SOME OF THE DISCREPANCIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES. SO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE READY AT THIS POINT. BUT MR. RUTLEDGE. YEAH, IF IT HELPS, YOU KNOW, THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS INFORMATIONAL FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. AND I WAS PLANNING ON ASKING FOR US TO BRING THIS BACK UP AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. AND MAYBE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS AND SPECIFICS CAN COME BACK WITH DETAILS TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR MORE, YOU KNOW, CATERED TO AND ACCURATE RESPONSES. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE, JUST BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO REMEMBER THINGS, BUT LET'S BRING THIS BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT IN TIME. AND I THINK CHIEF JUST AGREED TO THAT. SO AT THIS TIME, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS. AND WE WILL MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. JUST THE ITEM D. DISCUSSION REVIEW AGENDA. WELL, ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO SKIP ITEM D, E AND JUMP TO ADJOURNMENT. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. YOUR HONOR, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? THE TIME IS 6:53. THIS WILL TAKE US TO OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.