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GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. IT IS 6:31 P.M..

[A. CALL TO ORDER - CHAIRPERSON ]

THANK YOU. WE CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND GO AND GET A ROLL CALL.

MRS. ELLIS. HERE. AND MR. THOMPSON. HERE. AND MISS GORIA.

HERE. MR. RAMANI. HERE. HERE. AND MISS GHOLSTON.

HERE. AND MYSELF. MR. SHIFLET IS HERE AS WELL.

IF YOU COULD ALL STAND AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. SOMETIMES I WONDER ABOUT THAT.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. PUBLIC APPEARANCE. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS SET ASIDE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT IS NOT

[D. PUBLIC APPEARANCE]

FORMALLY SCHEDULED ON THE AGENDA AS A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE SHOULD COMPLETE A PUBLIC MEETING APPEARANCE CARD PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND PRESENTED TO A PLANNING TECH.

SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED UP TO FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND TO OR DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS PORTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF FACTUAL, SPECIFIC, FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DIRECTLY, NOT CITY STAFF OR OTHERWISE. BE COURTEOUS, RESPECTFUL AND CORDIAL AND REMAIN. REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL, DEMEANING, INSULTING, THREATENING AND OR DISPARAGING REMARKS AS TO MAINTAIN DECORUM AND SUPPORT THE EFFICIENT AND ORDERLY FLOW OF THE MEETING AND.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE. OH, SORRY. NEVER MIND.

I WAS GETTING AHEAD. SORRY. NO, NO. THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR THE PUBLIC APPEARANCE THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO

[E. CONSENT AGENDA ]

SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COMMISSIONER. SO REQUESTS IN WHICH WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA. AND THE ONLY THING WE HAVE ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING IS GOING TO BE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION FROM BACK ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026.

OKAY. NOW I MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM E.12026-011. I'VE GOT A MOTION. I'LL SECOND. SECOND.

WE OPEN THAT UP FOR A VOTE, PLEASE.

AND THAT WILL PASS 6 TO NOTHING. MOVING ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR SPECIAL AGENDA. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

[G. SPECIAL AGENDA]

AGENDA G.12026-01 TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FROM CROSS ENGINEERING TO FINAL PLAT OF PROPERTY BEING 1.64 ACRES OF LAND CALLED PRINCETON MICRO HOSPITAL, LOCATED WEST SIDE OF SOUTH BEACH BOULEVARD.

750 FOOT SOUTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 380 PRINCETON, TEXAS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A FINAL PLAT.

AS I MENTIONED, FOR THE PRINCETON MICRO HOSPITAL ADDITION, IT IS LOCATED OFF OF BEACH BOULEVARD.

IT IS 1.64 ACRES. THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE C.2.

ZONING. THIS REQUEST IS JUST THAT THE PLAT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE DRAINAGE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, WHICH WE'VE WORKED WITH ENGINEERING, AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN MEET THAT BY THE COUNCIL AGENDA POSTING.

SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL PENDING THAT THE APPLICANT ADDRESS THE OUTSTANDING DRAINAGE COMMENTS WHICH YOU CAN FIND IN EXHIBIT B.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO DSA MUST BE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS.

AND I'M ASSUMING THIS WATER AND THE WATER ISSUE.

IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO TEST HOW THE WATER FLOWS ACROSS THE SITE.

I AM NOT AN ENGINEER. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE HIM TO EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT WHETHER DOWNSTREAM TESTS AND WHAT THE REMAINING COMMENT IS.

THANK YOU. HELLO, I'M DANIEL FRANKLIN WITH CROSS ENGINEERING HERE, REPRESENTING THE OWNER AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

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SO WHAT IS DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT? WHAT HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND I'M SURE IT'S THE WATER AND HOW IT RUNS ACROSS THE PROPERTY.

BUT COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE PLEASE? WELL, IT VARIES ON EACH MUNICIPALITY TREATS IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT BASICALLY IT MEANS LOOKING AT THE RUNOFF FROM YOUR SITE AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT THE PROPERTIES DOWNSTREAM.

SO IN THIS CASE, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING DETENTION AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR PROPERTY IS GOING TO FUNCTION THE WAY THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO AND NOT HAVE ANY DETRIMENTAL IMPACT TO ANYBODY ELSE, ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT? WHAT'S THE PROCESS? IT VARIES.

LIKE I SAID, IT DEPENDS. SO IN THIS CASE WE IT'S A, IT'S A DRAINAGE AREA MAP AND WE'RE LOOKING TO SHOW HOW.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WHAT WITH THAT DESIGN, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

IN THIS CASE, AND IF THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT VARIES BASED ON PROJECTS, WE'VE DONE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT.

BUT THIS ONE, THERE'S AN EXISTING DESIGN. WE'RE JUST SHOWING THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

SO DOES IT ALSO PERTAIN TO THE LEVEL OF THE LAND ON THE.

WHEN YOU DO A DSA OR YOU MEAN THE THE GRADING THE ELEVATIONS.

YES, YES, YES. OKAY. SO IT DOES. YES. ALL RIGHT.

SO I HAVE TO ASK WHY WAS IT NOT DONE? I GUESS IF THAT'S THE HOLD UP, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S IN YOUR COURT.

WE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS REQUIRED FOR THAT. AND SO WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH A COUPLE TIMES, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS DONE. ACTUALLY, WE RESUBMITTED A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.

IT JUST HASN'T BEEN APPROVED. SO IF I MAY. YEAH, YEAH.

WE HAD A CALL TODAY WITH OUR OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AND THE APPLICANT TEAM.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE CONFIDENT THEY'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE FINAL REMAINING COMMENTS. AND AGAIN, AS WE MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING WE ARE TAKING THIS BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD THEM UP ON THE PROCESS WHEN WE FEEL LIKE THEY CAN ADDRESS THE COMMENTS BEFORE THE COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND WHAT ABOUT KIMLEY-HORN? DO THEY BECAUSE THE LETTER IS FROM THEM? THAT'S CORRECT.

BECAUSE YEAH, WE HAVE NO ON STAFF CITY ENGINEERING.

AND SO THEY ACT AS OUR ENGINEERS. BUT ACCORDING TO THEIR LETTER, THAT LETTER THEY'RE SAYING DON'T APPROVE IT.

BUT ARE THEY ON BOARD NOW. CORRECT. THAT IS FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

THIS IS JUST THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. THAT'S SAYING THAT THE STIPULATION BEING IF THEY DO NOT MEET THIS COMMENT, THEY'LL BE RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY COUNCIL SINCE COUNCIL IS THE FINAL APPROVING BODY.

AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION. SO IN OUR LAST MEETING WE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED THE PLAT.

AND YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE COUNCIL NEXT.

THEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE THE CLOCK RAN OUT.

SO WHAT? WHEN DOES THE CLOCK END ON THIS ONE? AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A CLARIFICATION THAT NEED TO BE HAD FROM THAT LAST MEETING SO THAT DIRECTOR BRUCE ADDRESS IT.

OKAY. SO MY QUESTION WAS, WHEN DOES THE CLOCK RUN OUT ON THIS ONE? AND IF IT DOES RUN OUT, THEN HOW DO WE FORCE THEM TO CLOSE THE CONDITIONS.

SO. SO JUST YESTERDAY'S MEETING IF I MAY CLARIFY DO WE KNOW WHEN.

SO THE. TODAY IS 21ST OF SEPTEMBER. SO IT'S 30 DAYS FROM THE DAY YOU ALL VOTE ON IT. SO WE GOT SOME MYTHS AND MISINFORMATION YESTERDAY.

WE GOT KIND OF SLIGHTLY CONFUSED. IT THE CLOCK FOR THAT PLAT THAT YOU ALL HAD CONDITIONALLY APPROVED DOES NOT RUN OUT TILL 9TH OF OCTOBER.

WE. WE MISUNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS 30 DAYS FROM THE DAY THEY ASKED FOR EXTENSION TO THE DAY COUNCIL VOTES ON IT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. IT IS 30 DAYS FROM THE DAY THEY ASK FOR EXTENSION TO P&Z, AND THEN 30 DAY CLOCK STARTS AGAIN.

AND THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFUSION AT THE LAST MINUTE.

SO WE ARE BRINGING THAT TO COUNCIL NEXT MONDAY ON THE 28TH FOR THEM TO VOTE ON THE THE PLAT THAT YOU HAD CONDITIONALLY APPROVED ALSO WAS DONE CORRECTLY.

SO WHEN IT WAS POSTED ON THE AGENDA, ALL COMMENTS HAD BEEN MET ON THAT PLAT THAT YOU ALL HAD CONDITIONED IT TO.

SO WE DO NOT PUT IT ON A COUNCIL AGENDA FOR APPROVAL UNLESS ALL THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN MET.

SO RIGHT NOW, WHILE THE LETTER SAYS DO NOT APPROVE, IF YOU CONDITIONALLY APPROVE IT, SUBJECT TO THEM MEETING THIS COMMENT BY THE TIME THE COUNCIL AGENDA IS POSTED, WE. WE JUST EITHER WILL.

IF THEY DON'T MEET IT, WE'LL SAY RECOMMEND DENIAL.

IF THEY MEET IT, WE'LL SAY RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO PARDON ME ON THAT NOTE.

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SO WHY DON'T WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM ADDRESS SINCE THIS MEETING JUST HAPPENED VERY RECENTLY, RIGHT. WHY DON'T THEY ADDRESS IT? YOU GUYS BRING IT BACK TO THIS THIS BOARD, AND THEN IT GOES TO TO COUNCIL VERSUS DOING A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT, WHICH I REALLY DON'T DON'T LIKE IT. RIGHT.

SO WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT PROCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD OBSERVED.

SO CAN WE IS IT LIKE, ARE WE ON A. THAT'S THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WE'RE ON A CLOCK. WE ARE ON A CLOCK. AND WHEN DID THAT CLOCK START? THE CLOCK STARTED WHEN, WHEN WHEN WAS THE LAST.

THE FIRST SUBMITTAL WAS IN APRIL. WE HAD THOSE 30 DAYS.

WE REQUESTED AN EXTENSION WHICH BROUGHT US TO MAY.

THEY GAVE US TWO EXTENSIONS, I BELIEVE, AND WE STILL HAD COMMERCE ADDRESS, WHICH BROUGHT US TO THE END OF JULY, WHICH AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE THESE COMMENTS. AND SO WE ASKED FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION AND THAT I BELIEVE THIS EXTENSION EXPIRES WHEN I SAY THE 28TH.

SO THIS MEETING IS THE ONE I HAD TO GO TO FOR ACTION TO BE TAKEN.

AND ALSO THE REASON WE WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT IT FORWARD FOR DENIAL.

IT'S JUST A LOT OF WORK AND PAPERWORK FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

AND ALSO WE'RE AS WE ARE GOING TO ONE P&Z MEETING A MONTH GOING FORWARD FROM OCTOBER.

IT JUST DELAYS DEVELOPMENT FOR JUST BASIC COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE CAN MEET IN A MONTH BECAUSE THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH.

SO IF THEY DON'T MAKE IT TO THIS ONE, THEY COULD GO TO OCTOBER 5TH, BUT THEN THE 30 DAY CLOCK GETS OVER ON THE 28TH. SO WE JUST ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HOLDING PEOPLE UP BECAUSE FRANKLY, YOU ALL ARE RECOMMENDING BODY. THE ACTUAL DECISION IS COUNCIL.

SO IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED UNTIL COUNCIL ACTS ON IT.

SO IF COUNCIL DENIES IT, IT GETS DENIED. SO IF THEY DON'T MEET ALL THE REGULATIONS, THEN THE COUNCIL WILL DENY IT.

I DON'T THINK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEND IT CLEAN FROM P&Z THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE AND NOT PUT THAT ON COUNCIL'S PLATES.

YEAH I AGREE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE THAT IS WHAT THIS BODY IS FOR, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL IT, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR US TO PUT THAT BURDEN ON COUNCIL.

RIGHT. SO WE, YOU KNOW, SO AND THE ONLY REASON WE DO THIS WITH PLATS IS BECAUSE PLATS ARE MINISTERIAL.

THEY'RE NOT JUDGMENTAL. IF IT WAS A LEGISLATIVE ACT WHERE Y'ALL COULD ADD YOUR THOUGHTS OR SOMETHING ELSE, THEN OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T EVER RECOMMEND CONDITIONAL APPROVAL BECAUSE IT'S MINISTERIAL.

ONCE THEY MEET ALL THE COMMENTS, THE PLAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY.

YOU DON'T HAVE A SAY IF THEY MEET ALL OUR REGULATIONS IN THE CITY.

THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION FOR EITHER P&Z OR COUNCIL AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE WILL EVER SAY CONDITIONAL APPROVAL IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MEET IT. AND ONCE THEY MEET IT, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU OR TO COUNCIL, EITHER BODY HAS TO APPROVE IT. SO ALL IT DOES IS ADDS TIME ON A DEVELOPMENT AND ADDS ANOTHER REPORT.

WE HAVE TO WRITE WITH A STAFF OF ONE AND PUT AN AGENDA ITEM, CREATE A DEVELOP.

IT'S JUST PAPERWORK. BUT IF YOU ALL WANT US TO BRING IT BACK AND JUST BRING IT FOR DENIAL, WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE REASONING BEHIND WHY WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS IF YOU ALL DO CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO THEM MEETING ALL THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OR COMMENTS BY COUNCIL AGENDA POSTING DATE, IT JUST SAVES A LOT OF TIME THAT WE COULD BE USING ON OTHER PROJECTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY YOU HAVE 380 OVERLAY ORDINANCE WITH A STAFF OF 2.

WE'RE GOING TO BE WRITING A FULL ORDINANCE IN ADDITION TO DOING 21 CASES THAT CAME IN ON MONDAY.

NEW CASES. SO IT'S REALLY JUST HOW EFFICIENTLY CAN WE USE THE TIME OF THE STAFF WITHOUT HURTING DEVELOPMENT OR RATHER WITHOUT DOING BAD DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OR ALLOWING NOT ALLOWING IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW SHOULD I SAY IT WITHOUT HURTING.

DEVELOPMENT OF QUALITY PROJECTS. WE'RE STILL WANTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S QUALITY PROJECT.

IF IT WASN'T, WE WOULDN'T BRING IT TO YOU. NO, I'M.

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YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR IT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THIS CITY NEEDS.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS A NEED FOR A MICROHOSPITAL.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS A NEED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE PROCESS. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE SEEM TO HAVE DONE THIS CONDITIONAL APPROVAL FOR FINAL PLAT.

WE JUST NEED TO MOVE, MOVE AWAY FROM IT. AND WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL, A CLEAN PACKAGE GETS PRESENTED TO, TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS IS THE BODY THAT NEEDS TO DO THE BRUNT OF THE WORK.

BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THINGS MOVE TO, TO COUNCIL AND, AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT, IF THAT'S Y'ALL'S DIRECTION.

I WAS JUST GIVING YOU THE BACKUP OF WHY STAFF IS DOING THIS.

IF YOU ALL DON'T WANT US TO BRING ANYTHING WITH A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL TO YOU ALL, THAT'S HOW WE WILL DO IT GOING FORWARD.

AND YOU DO HAVE A RIGHT TO DENY THIS. SO IF IT DOES GET DENIED, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS IN IN IN THIS CASE WITH, WITH ROUGH TIMELINES? IF I MAY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY KILL THE PROJECT.

JUST BEING FRANK, BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING AND JUST EVERYTHING INVOLVED WITH IT.

SO I WOULD BEG YOU NOT TO DO THAT. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH. WITH THE MICRO HOSPITAL. WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? LIKE I'VE MISSED A COUPLE MEETINGS. SO WHAT ARE WHAT IS THE MICRO HOSPITAL? WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES WILL THEY PROVIDE? IT'S A SMALL HOSPITAL.

IT WOULD PROVIDE A FULL 24 HOUR ER SERVICES WITH AN AMBULANCE DROP OFF.

I MEAN THERE ARE PROCEDURES THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO BUT THEY HAVE IT'S A ER FACILITY SO THERE'S LIKE NO LIKE INPATIENT THERE IS A SITUATION. OKAY. SO BASICALLY IT'LL THEIR MAIN, THEIR MAIN PERSPECTIVE IS EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, NOT THE MAIN, BUT IT PROVIDES ALL OF THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE CAN CALL IT A HOSPITAL BECAUSE IT HAS EVERYTHING THAT A LARGER HOSPITAL WOULD.

IT'S JUST SMALL. OKAY, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SORRY, I HAD MY MIC ON FOR A FEW IN REGARDS TO THE ER BAY.

WHAT IS THE POINT? I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AMBULANCES AT 2, 03:00 IN THE MORNING COMING IN LIGHTS AND SIRENS, LIGHTS, I DON'T CARE, BUT SIRENS COMING IN, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THAT.

AND WHERE IS THAT GOING TO BE LOCATED? IF I'M LOOKING AT THE PLANS, WHERE'S THE ER BAY OR AMBULANCE BAY.

THAT THAT THE AMBULANCE DROP OFF WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE THAT DRIVE IS OFF OF, OFF OF BEACH BOULEVARD. OKAY. SO BASICALLY WE WILL BE COMING IN WITH LIGHTS AND SIRENS BASICALLY. I MEAN, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT LIKE NOISE.

I MEAN, GRANTED WE GET POLICE AND FIRE GOING DOWN BEECHAM, BUT PULLING INTO AN AMBULANCE BAY, YOU KNOW, LIGHTS AND SIRENS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

WELL, ON THE OCCASIONS THAT THEY THAT THAT IT'S WARRANTED, I DON'T KNOW HOW FREQUENTLY THAT WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD BE BRINGING AN AMBULANCE TO THIS. I MEAN, IT'S A YEAH, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE FREQUENCY OF THAT.

I WILL SAY THAT IN MY EXPERIENCE, MOST OF THE TIMES, WHENEVER THEY GET CLOSE TO PULLING IN THE PARKING LOT, THEY WILL TURN THE SIRENS OFF. YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT IS ACCURATE.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN SHY MY QUESTIONS.

MORE FOR YOU. GOING BACK ON THE SHOT CLOCK DATE, WHERE DO WE SEE ON THE DOCUMENT THE AUGUST 28TH DATE THAT SUBSTANTIATES THAT EXPIRES ON SEPTEMBER 28TH.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE DOCUMENT. WE WE TRACK IT ON OUR CASE TRACKER BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF THEY ONCE THEY COMPLETE APPLICATIONS TAKEN IN THE 30 DAY STARTS, IF THEY DON'T GIVE US A VOLUNTARY EXTENSION, WHICH WE HAD TO. THAT'S WHY IT ENDS ON THE 28TH.

SO THAT'S HOW WE TRACK IT. BUT IT'S NOT ON THE APPLICATION BECAUSE WHEN THEY GIVE

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US THE APPLICATION, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S COMPLETE YET.

SO ONCE WE TELL THEM, OKAY, NOW IT'S COMPLETE.

THAT'S THE DATE THE SHOT CLOCK STARTS. OKAY. OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M LOOKING HERE AND ON THE DOCUMENTS I'M LOOKING AT SAYS AUGUST 17TH.

SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN AFTER THAT, LIKE PARKER SAID, THEY'VE BEEN GIVING US, THEY'VE GIVEN US THREE VOLUNTARY EXTENSIONS.

SO. THANK YOU. SO WHY ARE WE JUST NOW SEEING THIS? IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD IT SINCE APRIL, RIGHT. AND THIS IS, I THINK, THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT.

SO WHY DID WHY SO LONG BEFORE WE SEE IT. AND NOW IT'S AT FINAL PLAT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

SO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS DONE MANY YEARS AGO.

THIS IS JUST ONE SIDE OF IT. SO WHEN THEY CAME IN TO DO THE FINAL PLAT THEY FINAL PLATTED THE FRONT PORTION.

NOW THEIR FINAL PLATTING THIS PARCEL, THERE'S ONE MORE LEFT OUT OF THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WAS DONE BEFORE.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE TO FIRST REVIEW AT STAFF LEVEL, FIGURE OUT IF THEY'RE MEETING EVERY OTHER CONDITION IN THE ORDINANCE BEFORE WE EVEN BRING IT TO YOU. SO THAT'S THE PROCESS IS FOR STAFF REVIEWS IT MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE ORDINANCE.

THEN IT COMES TO P&Z. P&Z SAYS, YES, WE AGREE.

AND THEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL. SO THEN WE ONLY SEE IT ONE TIME.

YES. SO THEN WE HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS, BUT WE'RE AT FINAL PLAT.

CORRECT. SO YOU KNOW PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ASKED IT AT PRELIMINARY PLAT.

SO IN IF THIS HAD JUST STARTED YOU'D HAVE SEEN A PRELIMINARY PLAT COME BY WITH ALL 5 LOTS DIVIDED.

YOU COULD HAVE ASKED ABOUT, HEY, HOW'S THIS LOT DRAINING? HOW'S THIS LOT GETTING ACCESS? WHERE IS THE UTILITIES COMING FROM? ALL OF THAT HAPPENS AT PRELIMINARY PLAT. FINAL PLAT IS JUST TO SAY, YES.

IT MEETS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. IT MEETS ALL THE YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. SO OKAY, SO I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

DO YOU DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ALSO? OKAY, OKAY.

OKAY. SO SO I HAVE COUNTED THE PARKING LOT SPACES AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LET'S SEE, 36.

BUT I CANNOT COME UP WITH MORE THAN 32 AND THERE'S A CURB INLET ON 2 AND THEY MAYBE THEY'RE PARKING LOT SPACES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COUNT THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT A CURB INLET IS EITHER, BUT I CAN'T COME UP WITH THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR PARKING LOT SPACES, WHICH SHOULD BE 36. YEAH. SO ALSO NOTE THAT THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT.

THIS IS NOT THE SITE PLAN THAT WILL BE APPROVED.

THEY'LL HAVE TO RESUBMIT A SEPARATE PLAN. THAT IS GOING TO BE THE SITE PLAN WITH ALL THE BUILDING LOCATIONS, MEET ALL THE ZONING. AND WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THEY NEED TO MEET.

SO THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE EXACT LAYOUT TONIGHT.

YOU'RE JUST APPROVING THE PLAT SO THEY CAN BUILD ON IT ON A CONCEPT PLAN.

IT'S BASICALLY WHAT THAT WORD MEANS CONCEPT. IT DOESN'T MEAN, YOU KNOW.

LIKE THE DUMPSTER LOCATION. THIS COULD CHANGE. THEY COULD CHANGE THE LOCATION OF SOME OF THE PARKING TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING THAT CONCEPTS LIKE AN IDEA.

CORRECT. THIS IS THEIR VISION. OKAY. AND BASICALLY THE REASON I USUALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO NOT SUBMIT THIS AT THIS STAGE BECAUSE OF THIS CONFUSION.

HOWEVER, WITHOUT SEEING THIS, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S FINAL.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW. IF WE DON'T KNOW THE LAYOUT, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU THAT THERE THE EASEMENTS ARE IN THE CORRECT PLACE.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IF WE DON'T EVEN HAVE AN IDEA OF THAT, THEY MAY SHOW, HERE'S YOUR EASEMENT.

OKAY, THEN THE SITE PLAN COMES AND LIKE YOU SAID, OKAY, NOW WE NEED 37 SPACES.

THE EASEMENT WILL BE WRONG. SO THEN THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND REPLAT IT TO MATCH THE EASEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S EASIER TO KIND OF IF IT'S A SMALL PROJECT LIKE THAT, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CONCEPT PLAN TO MAKE SURE, OKAY, YOU'RE GENERALLY IN THE RIGHT PLACE WITH THE EASEMENTS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING.

BUT EVEN THEN, LIKE PARKER SAID, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK TO REPLAT IT IF THE SITE PLAN CHANGES ANYTHING.

THAT ITS FINAL PLAT, MAYBE IT'S NOT THIS ONE HERE.

YES, THE FINAL PLAT IS THE FINAL DOCUMENT APPROVING.

THIS IS JUST THE EXHIBIT SHOWING THAT HOW IT COULD BE BUILT.

SO THIS THIS DOES NOT GET APPROVED TONIGHT. THE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN, THE SITE EXHIBIT.

IT'S JUST THE PLAT THAT GETS APPROVED TONIGHT. IT'S JUST THE PLAT THAT GETS APPROVED TONIGHT.

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THE SITE EXHIBIT THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SCREEN DOES NOT GET APPROVED TONIGHT. SO THEN I ALSO NOTICED AND MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME THE SAME ANSWER, BUT ON THE DUMPSTER AREA, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT HAS THE NUMBER OF FEET THAT IT IS.

BUT YOU CAN'T TELL THE WALL AROUND IT WHAT IS MADE OF.

LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MASONRY OR METAL OR, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY SO.

IS THAT THE SAME THING? YES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL ASK THEM TO PROVIDE ON THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL.

OKAY. THANKS. JUST A NOTE, A CURB INLET IS A VERTICAL OPENING IN A ROADSIDE CURB THAT CAPTURES STORMWATER RUNOFF AND GUIDES IT INTO AN UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

SO IT'S A LITTLE DRAINS YOU WALK BY. SO WHAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION ROUGH TIMELINE LIKE IF YOU DID SAY THAT IF IF THIS GETS DENIED TODAY, THE PROJECT GETS KILLED.

SO I'M ASSUMING THERE IS I, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT YOU DISCLOSING ANY CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, BUT KIND OF JUST BROAD OVERALL TIMELINES. WELL, I'M TO BE HONEST, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THAT PREPARED, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT SOME OF THE FUNDING FROM THIS IS CONDITIONAL AND PART OF IT IS TIMING.

SO BUT THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, I MEAN, THEY WOULD LOVE TO START CONSTRUCTION THIS YEAR IF WE COULD.

AND IS THAT STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? YES.

WHEN THEY CAME IN FOR THEIR PRE DEVELOPMENT MEETING, THEY HAD WANTED TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION NOW AND BECAUSE OF BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, IT'S GOTTEN. WE TOLD THEM THAT UNLESS IT'S PERFECT THE FIRST TIME, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN THAT FAST. HOWEVER, IF THIS GETS PUSHED TO SAY, 5TH OF OCTOBER, WHICH WE HAVE TO POST IT TODAY FOR THE NO NEXT MONDAY. NEXT MONDAY WE WOULD HAVE TO POST THE AGENDA FOR 5TH OCTOBER MEETING.

P&Z MEETING, WHICH MEANS IT GOES TO THE LAST MEETING IN OCTOBER, VERSUS IF YOU APPROVE IT TODAY, IT CAN GO TO 12TH OF OCTOBER. SO THEY CAN BREAK GROUND IN OCTOBER.

WE WILL NOT GIVE THEM A PERMIT UNTIL FINAL PLAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

AND AGAIN, THAT DEPENDS ON IF THEY MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS BEFORE THE COUNCIL AGENDA IS POSTED.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE 6TH OF. OCTOBER THAT THEY HAVE TO POST THE AGENDA FOR THE 12TH.

AND I JUST HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE HOSPITAL IN GENERAL.

IS IT GOING TO HAVE LIKE A SURGERY AREA? IS IT BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IT'S GOING TO BE A FULL HOSPITAL TO BASICALLY DO ALMOST PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING? DO WE KNOW HOW MANY BEDS IT'LL BE? LAST TIME I'D SEEN IT, THERE WERE 8. JUST 8 18. 18? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE FIRE HYDRANT.

SORRY. YOU GOT TO BE QUICK. FIRE HYDRANTS. AND MAYBE THAT'S FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT ON HERE IT SAYS THEIR PROPOSED. AND THEN THERE'S EXISTING.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP TRACK OF? I MEAN THEY'RE SO HARD TO FIND. IT'S JUST A LITTLE TEENY SYMBOL ON THERE. BUT YEAH, SO THAT'S STANDARD HOW ON SITE PLANS, HOW THEY PUT IT. THEY USUALLY PUT THE EXISTING FIRE HYDRANT LOCATIONS AND PROPOSED. AND THESE DO HAVE TO MEET ALL THE FIRE CODES WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED BY OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO, SO FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT. THIS IS WHAT I SEE.

THE. THE SUBMISSION OF THE FINAL PLAT WAS DONE ON APRIL 3RD, RIGHT OF THIS YEAR. AND THEN WHAT WE SEE IS THE SECOND SUBMITTAL FROM FROM CROSS ENGINEERING ON AUGUST 24TH, TO WHICH KIMBERLY HAHN RESPONDED ON SEPTEMBER 4TH, WHICH IS OUR 3RD PARTY ENGINEER.

RIGHT. SO I'M ASSUMING THERE WAS BETWEEN APRIL AND AUGUST, WHICH IS THE SECOND SUBMITTAL, THERE WAS JUST ONE, ONE ITERATION BETWEEN BETWEEN THE 2 OR I BELIEVE THIS IS THE 4TH ITERATION.

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OKAY. SO I BELIEVE WHAT WE ALSO MENTIONED WAS THAT IT WAS, I THINK AFTER THE SECOND REVIEW THAT THEY REALIZED THAT WE NEED THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT HAS ONLY GONE THROUGH TWO ITERATIONS, BUT THE PLAT ITSELF HAS GONE THROUGH 4. SO OKAY.

SO IF THERE WERE MULTIPLE ITERATIONS IS IT JUST SEMANTICS IN TERMS OF WHY WE ARE SEEING LIKE, WHY IS IT NAMED AS SECOND SUBMITTAL? THE WAY IT'S, WE'RE CURRENTLY SEND THINGS TO OUR 3RD PARTY ENGINEERING AND THE WAY THEY SEND IT BACK TO US, THEY PARSE IT OUT BETWEEN THE PLAT VERSUS THE ENGINEERING EXHIBITS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AS I MENTIONED THAT THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT CAME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE REVIEW PROCESS THAT THEY NEEDED TO PROVIDE THAT TO MEET ALL OUR ORDINANCES.

AND SO THAT IS ONLY THE SECOND REVIEW OF THAT.

SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT THE 1ST, 2ND, 3RD IN OUR PREVIOUS FILES TOO. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WITH MOST OF THE PLATTING, WE ASK FOR TIA, WE ASK FOR DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT, WE ASK FOR ALL THESE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING.

AND THEN THERE IS A PLAT DRAWING. SO WHEN WE REVIEW THE PLAT WE MIGHT SAY IN THE FIRST THAT'S THE FIRST SUBMITTAL.

AND WE MIGHT SAY IN THE COMMENTS THAT YOU. YOU'RE NOT.

WE NEED TO SEE YOUR TIA OR WE NEED TO SEE YOUR DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT.

THEN THEY'LL SUBMIT THAT. SO WHEN OUR 3RD PARTY LOOKS AT IT, IT'S THEIR FIRST SUBMITTAL OF THE TIA FIRST SUBMITTAL OF THE DSA OR. BUT THEN THE PLAT MIGHT BE ON THE 3RD SUBMITTAL BY THEN.

SO EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN COMMENT LETTER. AND THAT'S WHY THIS CONFUSION HAPPENS.

WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MAKE IT ALL IN ONE LETTER.

SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY MEAN IS PLAT HAS BEEN BACK AND FORTH FOR FOUR TIMES THE PLAT DRAWING DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT.

THIS IS JUST THE SECOND VERSION OF IT. OKAY, I GET IT.

SO DIFFERENT BUCKETS. YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ITERATIONS GOING ON, BUT YOU KNOW THIS BUCKET THAT IS PRESENTED, IT WOULD BE NICE GOING FORWARD TO KIND OF HAVE IN THE PACKAGE ITSELF ALL THE SUBMITTALS THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE FIRST SUBMITTAL FOR, FOR THIS IN, IN, IN THE PACKAGE. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW, JUST, JUST AN OBSERVATION.

SO IT'LL BE NICE TO, TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN, IN ONE PLACE GOING FORWARD.

IS THAT FAIR? WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.

SO WELL LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. I WILL NEED TO CHECK BECAUSE IF WE CAN PROVIDE YOU EVERY ITERATION OR ARE WE SUPPOSED TO. I'VE HAD DIFFERENT CITY ATTORNEYS TELL ME DIFFERENT THINGS, SO WE.

BUT IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO, YOU WILL HAVE. YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO SOLVE THAT.

JUST AN OBSERVATION GOING FORWARD. YOU'RE ASKING IF YOU CAN PROVIDE ALL OF THE PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS.

NO PREVIOUS SUBMITTALS. OKAY. AND THE COMMENT LETTERS TO THE PREVIOUS SUBMITTALS.

OKAY. BUT WE HAD ONCE BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN'T.

IT IS LIMITED. I'LL FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT WHAT YOU CAN ATTACH, AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU. IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO HAVE ALL THAT.

SO WHEN WE GET HERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE ALREADY WITH US.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MAYBE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS.

NOW IF YOU CAN'T DO IT. I MEAN, THAT'S ONE THING.

SO YEAH, LET ME CHECK HOW IT IS. BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT YOU ALL ARE REVIEWING IT AS STAFF.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SENT YOU. THAT EMAIL IS STAFF'S JOB IS TO REVIEW IT.

THIS WOULD MEAN THAT WE ARE LETTING OUR APPOINTED AND ELECTED OFFICIALS REVIEW THE CONSULTANT WORK OR THE DEVELOPERS WORK IN OPEN. IT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE TOO MUCH CONFUSION.

AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE ON HERE, AND I DRIVE BEAUCHAMP QUITE FREQUENTLY.

TRAFFIC LIGHTS. BECAUSE MAKING THAT LEFT TURN INTO THAT AREA.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE AMBULANCES WILL HAVE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEIR LIGHTS GOING AND ALL THAT, BUT SO ARE THERE ANY PLANS OR ANYTHING FOR TRAFFIC LIGHTS? SO TRAFFIC LIGHTS DEPENDS THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS ON THE TRAFFIC COUNT.

SO IF THEY'RE TIA DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TRAFFIC COUNT TO JUSTIFY A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

OTHERWISE THEY WE USUALLY REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT IF THEIR DEVELOPMENT DOES REQUIRE IT,

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AND IS ADDING THE TRAFFIC TO THE STREET. RIGHT.

BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN. THEY'RE GOING TO BE FIGHTING WITH THE WALMART TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE.

AND THERE'S ALREADY AN ACCIDENT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

SO OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AS WELL.

SO AS FAR AS WITH THE AMBULANCE SERVICES, WILL WE BE JUST SERVICING PRINCETON OR WILL IT BE FARMERSVILLE NEW HOPE.

LIKE HOW FAR WHAT'S THE RADIUS? I'M PRETTY SURE THEY DON'T MIND SERVING MORE PEOPLE FROM MORE AREA.

RIGHT? BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY WHOEVER WANTS TO.

MY CONCERN IS LIKE WITH 18 BEDS, YOU HAVE THE EMS BRINGING PEOPLE IN, AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING IN.

AND THEN IT JUST CREATES A I MEAN, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF TIME, IT'S CONTINGENT UPON WHAT THE PATIENT IS NEEDING AS WELL, LIKE TRAUMA CENTERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM TO A MICRO HOSPITAL LIKE THIS ONE.

THEY MAY HAVE TO GO STRAIGHT TO A TRAUMA CENTER OR A BURN CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IF IT'S A GENERAL MEDICAL NEED, THEN CHANCES ARE THEY CAN BRING THEM HERE. BUT IF IT'S A SPECIALTY HOSPITAL, THEY'LL TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THE MCKINNEY MEDICAL CENTER IS RIGHT UP THE STREET.

AND THEY ARE. YEAH. AND I MEAN, THEY COULD IF IT'S LIFE THREATENING, THEY COULD TAKE THEM THERE AND THEN GET THEM STABILIZED AND TRANSFER THEM TO MCKINNEY IF NEEDED. OR BAYLOR. JUST SO I KNOW, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT A BARRIER FREE RAMP IS? THAT'S I BELIEVE FOR TO SATISFY ADA REQUIREMENTS.

IT'S THAT RAMP THAT GOES UP TO PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY AID DEVICES CAN ENTER THE FACILITY.

CORRECT. REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. YES. 2 QUESTIONS.

THE 1ST ONE IS, I GUESS, JUST CORRECTING A TYPO.

THE AGENDA AND IN THE PLAT APPLICATION, IT SAYS THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 750FT SOUTH OF 380, BUT THE MEMO SAYS 280FT SOUTH OF 380. SO I BELIEVE THE.

I BELIEVE THE 280 IS CORRECT. BUT YES, ONE OF THOSE IS A TYPO AND I CAN VERIFY WHICH ONE IT IS.

I'M ASSUMING 280FT IS A TYPO. NOT THE NOT THE 750, BECAUSE THE 750 APPEARS IN THE PLAT.

AND YOU KNOW, YEAH, USING THE AGENDA, BUT THE 750 SHOWS IS, IS IN THE PLAT APPLICATION THEN.

YES. OKAY. SO CAN WE GET THAT CORRECTED PLEASE.

YES. THANK YOU. COMING TO THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT.

I'M NOT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GETTING TOO TECHNICAL HERE, BUT IS IT WAS IT MORE OF KIND OF THE UNCONTROLLED WATER RIGHT.

LEAVING THE PROPERTY. THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF LESS OR EQUAL TO THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN.

RIGHT. SO WAS IT JUST REWRITING YOUR REPORT? THIS IS TO CROSS ENGINEERING OR, OR WAS IT AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE TO THE DESIGN ITSELF TO MAKE IT COMPLIANT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS WHICH IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM KIMBERLY HAHN WAS RIGHT.

SO MY QUESTION WAS, WAS IT WAS IT JUST REWRITING A REPORT TO BE COMPLIANT OR WAS IT TO FIX A DESIGN ISSUE TO, TO MAKE IT COMPLIANT? YES, I BELIEVE THAT AGAIN, I AM NOT AN ENGINEERING.

SO I CAN'T SPEAK ON ENGINEERING COMMENTS, BUT I BELIEVE SEE ME READ THAT AGAIN THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THEM TO.

REVISE THE NARRATIVE AND THE EXHIBIT TO VERIFY THAT THEIR NUMBERS, I BELIEVE, WORK WITH OUR NUMBERS.

BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ENGINEER SPEAK TO THAT.

YES, PLEASE. IT WHAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT? THEY WANTED IT PRESENTED DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAD IT PRESENTED.

BUT THE, THE DESIGN REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE. IT WAS JUST LABELING IT AND SHOWING IT MORE CLEANLY OR CLEARLY, I GUESS IS A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT. AND, AND ALSO JUST ADDING A NARRATIVE THAT EXPLAINS IT INTO THE REPORT.

OKAY. SO IT WAS JUST KIND OF CLEANING UP THE DOCUMENTATION AND MAKING SURE THAT BOTH SIDES ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, RIGHT? YEAH. MORE VERSUS VERSUS FIXING A FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

CORRECT. YEAH. THE DESIGN WAS THERE. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MORE CLEARLY REPRESENTING THAT DESIGN.

OKAY. THANK YOU. REAL QUICK, IS THERE A HELIPAD ON THIS LOCATION?

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I'M SORRY. IS THERE A HELIPAD ON THIS LOCATION? NO, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. OKAY. I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

NO. OKAY. I WAS JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE I KNOW THE DRONES ARE RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT, ACROSS THE STREET AT THE WALMART. SO I WAS CONCERNED THAT IT MAY CAUSE A POTENTIAL HAZARD IF THERE WAS ONE THERE FOR TRANSPORTING PATIENTS OUT FOR HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE. I'M NOT AWARE.

I'M NOT AWARE OF HELIPAD. OKAY. YEAH. I'M GOOD.

I'M GOOD. I HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY, ON CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OR APPROVAL, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT.

SO IF YOU CAN JUST TELL ME. I KNOW WHAT THE APPROVAL IS.

WHAT'S THE CONDITIONAL. CONDITIONAL APPROVAL IN THIS SENSE, SINCE, AS DIRECTOR BRUCE MENTIONED, THAT THE FINAL APPROVING BODY IS THE COUNCIL.

SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS CONDITIONAL THAT THEY ADDRESS THE REMAINING COMMENT.

SO IF THAT CONDITION IS NOT MET BY THE TIME THE COUNCIL AGENDA IS POSTED.

THEN IT'S GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.

SO THE CONDITION IS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THIS OR WILL BE DENIED.

WHICH WOULD BE THE DSA. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED THIS BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE DSA. AS I UNDERSTAND, THE DRAINAGE IS CORRECT.

IT'S JUST THE VERBIAGE AND HOW THEY WANT IT WRITTEN IN THAT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONDITIONALLY APPROVED IT BASED ON CORRECTING THE REQUIREMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE DSA. I MADE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. THOMPSON A SECOND.

MOTION, A SECOND FOR A VOTE.

I'M NOT GOING THROUGH. MINE'S NOT. I'M PUSHING THE BUTTON.

OKAY. I WAS GOING TO ASK, DO WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE? NO. OKAY.

I'M. SORRY. WE'LL HAVE TO REDO IT.

AND THAT PASSES 6 TO NOTHING. MOVING ON TO G2 2026-013.

CONSIDER INITIATING A TEXT AMENDMENT PURSUANT TO SECTION 82-33-A-2.

OF THE CITY OF PRINCETON ZONING ORDINANCE ORDERING THE CONSIDERATION OF A CITY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

AMENDING THE REGULATIONS RELATING TO THE CREATION OF A US 380 OVERLAY DISTRICT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND CHAIR PARK MCDOWELL, PLANNING MANAGER AGAIN. SO THIS REQUEST.

WE ARE ASKING FOR DIRECTION ON CREATING A 380.

A US 380 OVERLAY DISTRICT. THAT WOULD BE AN OVERLAY ZONING THAT GOES ON TOP OF THE BASE ZONING TO ALLOW US TO KEEP 380, WHICH IS OUR MAIN EAST WEST CORRIDOR IN AND OUT OF THE CITY AS TO PROMOTE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, PROMOTE UNIFORMITY AND JUST MAKE IT SO THAT WE GET THOSE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY DIRECTION, ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS OVERLAY, WE WILL REFER TO THE COMP PLAN, OF COURSE, TO GUIDE IT FOR THE BASE, BUT WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADD ANY OF YOUR INPUT TO THIS REQUEST.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SIGNAGE BE LIMITS AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO USE THE WORD DECORATIVE, BUT LIKE MASONRY BLOCK BRICK, YOU KNOW.

YEAH. OUTLINING THE SIGNS. AND I KIND OF LIKE SIGN DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING.

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I'D LOVE TO SEE SINCE WE CAN'T REGULATE THE BUILDING MATERIALS THEMSELVES.

OH WE CAN'T. WE CANNOT. OKAY. BUT WE CAN DO HEIGHT LEVELS.

YES, WE CAN DO ANY ELEMENT THAT'S NOT MATERIAL.

I BELIEVE FOR THE SIGN. THAT'S FINE. JUST IN GENERAL, THE 380 SIGN.

YEAH. SO WHAT THIS WHAT AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT COMMISSIONER ELLIS IS MENTIONING IS THAT WE COULD ADD IN A PROVISION WHERE ANY SIGNS WITHIN THIS OVERLAY HAVE TO BE UNDER A CERTAIN HEIGHT OR UNDER A CERTAIN AREA COMPARED TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE ALLOWED FOR THAT ZONING DISTRICT.

THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS. AND HAVE LIGHTS RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. I BELIEVE WE CAN DO LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SIGNS, BUT EVERYTHING WE DO WILL HAVE TO, OF COURSE, RUN BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ASK FOR THOSE THINGS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF LANDSCAPING, BUT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS FOR PRINCETON, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR LOGO, IT'S A IT'S A TREE. YEAH. PRINCETON ICON IS A TREE.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE TREES AND SHRUBBERY. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE MORE GREENER IN THAT REGARD. THAT NO MORE CAR SHOPS AND TIRE SHOPS AND LIMIT THE THE STORAGE USAGE.

I'VE HEARD THAT THERE ARE FOR THE BYPASS THAT CITIES ARE NOT BUYING INTO IT.

IS THAT CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHY IT STALLED. SO.

AS FAR AS THE BYPASS, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT SINCE IT'S NOT A TAX PROJECT.

SO WE ONLY HEAR WHAT THEY SAY WHEN THEY COME TO US WITH TIMELINES AND ASK FOR INPUT.

YEAH. AS FAR AS THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT, CHAD, YOU KNOW, THE LAST WE HEARD FROM TXDOT, SO THE LAST STATUS WE HEARD WAS THAT THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.

SO WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. MR. THOMPSON? OH. I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK IF WE ONCE WE DEVELOP THIS OVERLAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE UNDERLYING ZONING.

SO IT KIND OF BETTER FITS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR WE WON'T CHANGE THE UNDERLYING ZONING UNLESS OTHER PEOPLE COME REQUESTING THOSE ZONING CHANGES.

AND WE WOULD ALWAYS REFER BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE PEOPLE OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THEM AND WHAT COUNCIL APPROVED.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PROPOSED ZONINGS ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT.

WITH THIS WOULD DO WOULD ALLOW US TO PUSH IT TOWARDS THAT, WITH MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE COMP PLAN GOALS ARE MET WITHIN THIS OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH IS ALLOW FOR SLIGHTLY MORE STRINGENT OR LENIENT, EVEN ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

SO WHATEVER THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL WANTS, AND ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU.

SO AFTER WE GET THIS RECOMMENDATION, WE'LL GO BACK, MAKE THE REPORT, WRITE THE ORDINANCE, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK. SO THIS IS NOT THE FINAL SAY ON IT.

YOU WILL GET ANOTHER SHOT AT THIS ONE. WE HAVE A MORE CONCRETE ORDINANCE USING THE INPUT WE GET TONIGHT.

OKAY, SO THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR JUST KIND OF INFORMATION FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO KIND OF JUST COMMUNICATE WHAT WE WANT.

CORRECT. DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY TEETH TO GO TRY TO DRIVE CHANGE OR ANYTHING.

IT DOES HAVE TEETH WHEN WE GET THOSE REQUESTS.

BUT AS FAR AS CITY INITIATED ZONING, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'LL BE DOING ANY OF THAT.

SO AT THIS POINT, THE THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE BASE ZONING.

WE'RE USING THE OVERLAY TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE CHANGE BECAUSE THE WAY OVERLAY WORKS IS WHICHEVER IS STRINGENT, WHETHER THE BASE ZONING OVERLAY CAN SAY, OH, WE WILL ALLOW THESE USES IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE BASE ZONING ALLOWS, OR WE CAN OVERLAY CAN SAY EVEN IF THE BASE ZONING ALLOWS THESE USES, THIS AREA, WHEREVER THE OVERLAY IS, WILL NOT ALLOW. SO WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT APPLIES.

SO IN A SENSE WE ARE REALLY CHANGING THE BASE ZONING.

THE ONLY REASON TO HAVE A BASE ZONING IS IN CASE THE OVERLAY, FOR EXAMPLE, DOESN'T MENTION SOMETHING,

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BUT THE UNDERLYING ZONING DOES. THEN THAT APPLIES, BUT WHATEVER THE OVERLAY SAYS GOES UP FIRST. THEN IF OVERLAY DOESN'T COVER IT, THEN THE UNDERLYING ZONING COMES INTO PLAY.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO ALSO TRY AND NOT MAKE TOO MUCH OF A CHANGE.

WE DID GET I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE APPROVED.

IF WE DO DO THAT, IF WE DO GET THE FUNDING FOR IT NEXT YEAR, THEN WE WILL CHANGE ALL THE BASE ZONING TO MATCH UP WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THAT'S A. THAT WILL TAKE A WHILE.

SO BECAUSE DOING A FULL ZONING REWRITE LITERALLY WILL TAKE 18 MONTHS OR MORE, AND THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING FAST TO THE CITY. WE WANT TO PROTECT THIS CORRIDOR, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR GATEWAYS LITERALLY INTO THE CITY.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT IT SO THAT WE DO GET THE KIND OF USES WE WANT COME IN HERE.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. CAN WE SET STANDARDS TO WHERE WE'RE ENSURING THERE ARE SIDEWALKS. CROSSWALKS IF NEEDED, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE TRULY NEED THAT. TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO CONTINUE 1, THE CONNECTIVITY, BUT ALSO JUST HAVING A SIDEWALK AND BEING ABLE TO WALK TO SOMEWHERE IS A COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK AROUND HERE AND BELIEVE SIDEWALKS ARE COULD BE PART OF THIS.

AND IT ALSO IS WITHIN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE. SO ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO PUT IN THOSE SIDEWALKS.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S THAT SITUATION IS IT'S AS THEY COME IN FREE DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN ASK FOR SIDEWALKS.

SO IN THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN HAVE REGULATIONS THAT SO I THINK WHAT PARKER'S TRYING TO SAY IS WE CAN'T RETROACTIVELY GO BACK AND ASK PEOPLE TO GIVE US A SIDEWALK IF THEY'RE JUST DOING A SMALL EXPANSION DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY ARE BUILDING AND PROPOSING. NOT EVERY TIME CAN WE ASK THEM TO MEET THE NEW CODE BECAUSE THEY WILL BE NON CONFORMING.

SO DEPENDS ON WHAT WE CAN ASK. BUT WHAT THIS IS IS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN.

WE CAN REQUIRE ALL THESE. AND WE CAN ALSO PUT IN HOW THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE CONNECTED.

EVEN THOUGH OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE SAYS 5 FEET SIDEWALK.

MAYBE WE CAN SAY THAT IN THIS OVERLAY IT WILL BE 10 FEET WIDE SIDEWALK.

PERFECT. AND THEN I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION WITH THIS OVERLAY AND THE IDEA.

CAN WE LIMIT THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES? YOU KNOW, LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, TIRE SHOPS, AUTOMOTIVE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY THINGS IS NAIL SALONS WITHIN A 3 BLOCK RADIUS.

WE HAVE 5 NAIL SALONS, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING OUR CITY NEEDS TO LOOK INTO OF BEING ABLE.

I MEAN, WE WANT BUSINESS. DON'T GET ME WRONG.

WE WANT COMMERCIAL. BUT HAVING THE SAME COMMERCIAL OVER AND OVER, IT ACTUALLY HURTS THE BUSINESS OWNER. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO I DON'T WE WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN LIMIT THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES IN AN AREA.

WE CAN LIMIT WHAT USES CAN BE ALLOWED IN AREA, BUT NOT THE NUMBER.

OKAY, WELL, I GUESS IT'S THE SAME. YEAH. IDEA.

SO WILL THIS AMENDMENT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROHIBIT OR EVEN LIMIT THE USES OF.

YES WE CAN IN THE OVERALL CATEGORY OF THE LAND USE.

YES. THE OVERLAY CAN SAY THESE USES IN THIS CATEGORY ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE OVERLAY OR THESE USES WITHIN THE OVERLAY ARE ALLOWED.

BUT ANY CHANGES LIKE IF THEY SELL IT AND THEY WANT TO REDEVELOP IT INTO THE SAME BUSINESS BUT LARGER, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

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SO IF THEY'RE NOT SELLING, BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THEIR USAGE RATES UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP, IT'S IF IT'S UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP, THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT AS IT IS AT THE TIME OF THE OVERLAY.

ANY FUTURE EXPANSION OF THAT WOULD NEED TO BRING IT INTO CONFORMANCE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE OWNERSHIP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE USE.

SO IF WHETHER YOU SELL IT OR NOT, IF THE USE IS ALREADY IN PLAY, FOR EXAMPLE WE SAY AUTOMOTIVE USES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE OVERLAY, BUT WE HAVE ALL THE OTHER USES THAT ARE THERE, THEN BECOME NONCONFORMING, LEGALLY NONCONFORMING. AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE THAT USE, EVEN IF THEY SELL IT.

BUT THE NEW OWNER IS JUST CONTINUING THAT USE THAT'S ALLOWED.

IF THEY STOP THE USE FOR 6 MONTHS OR MORE, THEN THEY CANNOT DO THAT USE AGAIN.

IF IT GETS DESTROYED MORE THAN 50%, THEY CANNOT REBUILD THAT USE.

BUT THERE IS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT THEY CAN EXPAND.

THERE IS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THEY CAN REBUILD TO, BUT IT'S VERY LIMITED.

SO LEGALLY NONCONFORMING MEANS YOU CAN CONTINUE USING THAT, BUT YOU CANNOT EXPAND IT.

YOU CANNOT EXPAND THAT NONCONFORMITY, BUT YOU CAN CONTINUE UNTIL IT FALLS.

SO THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A PIGGYBACK OFF OF MY INQUIRY FROM EARLIER WITH, YOU KNOW A DEAD COMPANY THAT IS LOOKING TO EXPAND AND DEVELOP A DIFFERENT BUSINESS THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP ADJACENT TO THE COMPANY THAT THEY HAVE GOING NOW WITH THIS AMENDMENT.

CAN WE CHANGE THOSE ALLOWANCES LIKE CAN IS IT ONCE THIS IS PUT INTO PLACE, CAN WE SAY, OKAY, YEAH, THIS WAS ABLE TO HAPPEN PRIOR TO THIS. NOW THAT THIS IS HERE, WE CAN OR CANNOT, NOT WITH THIS NEW AMENDMENT.

WE CAN ONLY SINCE WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE THE EXISTING NONCONFORMING SECTION OF THE CODE, WE CAN'T PUT ANY STRICTER STANDARDS FOR EXISTING NONCONFORMING WITHIN THE OVERLAY.

IT'S THE OVERALL SECTION OF THE CODE THAT STATES WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO IF THE ZONING CHANGES, THAT STILL APPLIES. SO IS THAT GOING TO BE A SITUATION WHERE THIS AMENDMENT JUST MAKES IT MORE LENIENT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

FOR IF IT'S AN EXISTING NON CONFORMING, IT'S LIKE THE USE IT'S ALLOWED TODAY.

SAY THIS OVERLAY PASSES THAT USE IS NO LONGER ALLOWED.

THEY'RE STILL ALLOWED TO OPERATE THAT USE WITHIN THAT PROPERTY.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY COULDN'T BUY THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THEM TO EXPAND THE USE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. SO IF THIS USE IS ALLOWED, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY UTILIZING THAT USAGE RIGHT NOW.

BUT AFTER THIS AMENDMENT IS PUT IN PLACE, IF THEY DECIDE, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS WAS ALLOWED AT THE TIME OF.

OH NO, IT'S I THINK I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. SO THE SECOND THIS OVERLAY GETS PASSED, THOSE ARE THE NEW USES ALLOWED.

SO IF IT'S A VACANT PROPERTY THAT'S COULD HAVE BEEN, COULD HAVE USED AUTO.

AND YOU SAY YOU DON'T WANT TO USE AUTO ANYMORE. THE SECOND IT'S APPROVED AUTO IS NOT ALLOWED THERE ANYMORE. PERFECT.

OKAY. HOW FAR ALONG US 380. WILL THIS OVERLAY APPLY AND HOW FAR BACK THE RIGHT OF WAY WILL THE OVERLAY BOUNDARIES EXTEND? THAT'S ALSO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR YOU GUYS TODAY.

IF YOU WANTED TO DO THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF 380 WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS, WE COULD DO THAT.

YOU CAN SET HOW FAR ALONG AWAY FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU WANT THE OVERLAY TO ENCOMPASS.

SO IT'S WHATEVER PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL WOULD LIKE IT TO BE.

SO MY TAKE WOULD BE, I THINK THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE BECAUSE EARLY EARLIER THIS YEAR, RIGHT, THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED WHERE THE BUILDING HEIGHT WAS INCREASED FROM 35 TO 60FT, AND THAT HAD, I THINK, 1000FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THIS SHOULD BE COMPLEMENTARY WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT.

RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE EAST WEST ALONG 380, IT SHOULD COVER STARTS, TO WHERE PRINCETON ENDS, AND I THINK IT SHOULD GO THE SAME.

EAST WEST, NORTH SOUTH, EAST, WEST WHERE PRINCETON STARTS, WHERE PRINCETON ENDS.

BASICALLY OUR WHOLE CITY. NOT SOUTH, MAXINE, THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 380 CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW. SO WE HAVE TO THE OVERLAY IS GOING TO GO THIS THIS OVERLAY IS FOR THE 380 CORRIDOR,

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CORRECT? RIGHT ON BOTH SIDES, NORTH AND SOUTH.

SO WE CAN'T LIKE GO A MILE NORTH OR A MILE SOUTH.

YEAH. I WAS JUST REFERRING. NO, NO, NO, BUT I WAS PICTURING THE TXDOT OF THE 380 OVERLAY THAT. YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT WAS WHAT MY POINT IS.

THIS SHOULD COMPLEMENT THE, THE HEIGHT ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED, WHICH, WHICH BASICALLY SAID 1,000 FEET FROM NORTH SOUTH FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG 380.

RIGHT. SO THIS SHOULD BE COMPLEMENTING THAT. SO YEAH, 380 SHOULD BASICALLY BE THE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, FOCUS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING OUR CITY HAS.

SO EVERYTHING ALONG 380 SHOULD REPRESENT PRINCETON WHAT WE WANT IT TO REPRESENT.

ABSOLUTELY. THE OTHER QUESTION ON THIS, WE MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I'LL ASK IT ANYWAYS.

WILL THIS OVERLAY DISTRICT ENCOMPASS THE 380 BYPASS OR WHEN THE 380 BYPASS COMES.

THEN WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DO 1 FOR, FOR THAT.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY WOULD JUST BE OVER THE EXISTING 380 AND WE'D NEED TO REVISIT IT ONCE THAT'S FARTHER ALONG.

FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU. AND SHARON, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.

THE BYPASS THE BYPASS. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE EXPECTED TIMELINE FOR FOR DRAFTING? YOU ARE A 2 PERSON OPERATION. I GET IT JUST I, I THINK ONE, ONE, ONE OTHER THING ALONG THE SAME LINES IS PROBABLY THERE WOULD BE A NEED TO USE AN EXTERNAL TEAM LIKE A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT.

AND NOW WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEN, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN THE QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET? ALL THAT FUNDS TO DO IT IN HOUSE. SO THE TIME IT WOULD BE IS WHAT IT TAKES TO DRAFT IT.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IT REALLY FAST JUST BECAUSE WE NEED IT.

YEAH. AND THEN HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES FOR THE LEGAL REVIEW OF IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THAT'S WHY WE ONLY BROUGHT THE HEIGHT AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TRY AND DO SOME OUTREACH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR MAIN CORRIDOR, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAD PAID CLOSE ATTENTION FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OF JUST THIS CORRIDOR DURING OUR COMP PLAN. SO WE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT PEOPLE WANT.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS ON BOARD WITH THIS SO THAT YOU DON'T PASS SOMETHING.

AND THEN WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES, THEN EVERYBODY COMES OUT AND SAYS, WE DON'T WANT THIS.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A GOOD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR THIS TOO.

BUT LIKE I SAID, IT IS A 2 PERSON TEAM. SO IF YOU GIVE US SOME TIME TO GO BACK, CREATE A SCHEDULE AND A TIMELINE FOR IT, WE'D BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO TELL YOU, BUT WE DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE'LL DO IT IN HOUSE, AND WE WILL DO IT AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

THANK YOU. AND I'M ASSUMING THIS WOULD THEN COMPLEMENT THE THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WELL.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S YOU SAID IS AN 18 MONTH PROCESS, RIGHT? GIVE OR TAKE? YES. SO WHEN WE ARE WORKING ON THIS, WE WILL BE DOING IT WITH THE IDEA OF WHAT IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD WANT THAT CODE TO BE.

AND THEN THAT WILL BE A CONSULTANT EFFORT, RIGHT? SO WE WILL HAND THIS OVER AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY INCORPORATE THIS PORTION.

AND BY THEN MAYBE WE'LL HAVE LEARNED THAT WE WANT SOME EDITS TO THIS ONE.

SO THIS WILL JUST BE TAKEN INTO THAT OVERALL.

BUT THAT TIMELINE SHOULD START THE UNIFIED SOLITUDE.

DIGRESS FROM THE TOPIC HERE, BUT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE WORK ARE YOU ASSUMING SHOULD START IN THIS COMING UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR OR IS.

YEAH. RIGHT. THAT BECAUSE I THINK YEAH, I THINK YEAH, I WATCHED THE LAST NIGHT'S BUDGET.

MOST LIKELY YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE THAT $170,000 SLATED TO COME OUT FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT FUND INITIATIVE THAT HASN'T BEEN FORMALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL, BUT ALL INDICATIONS POINT THAT WAY.

SO THIS WILL BE SO THIS THE, THE OVERLAY DISTRICT WORK THAT WILL BE DONE IN HOUSE ALONG WITH THE CONSULTANTS DOING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WOULD PROBABLY BE RUNNING IN PARALLEL FOR SOME TIME.

RIGHT? NO. I HOPE WE CAN GET IT DONE FASTER THAN THAT.

OKAY. AS LONG AS YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS, AS LONG AS YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS ARE IN SYNC, RIGHT? OR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE BOTH IT'S NOT DIFFERENT, RIGHT?

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RIGHT. THAT WHATEVER WE DO FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THIS PORTION WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE UDC.

OKAY. HOW DOES IT GET FINALIZED? 1 OF THE. 1 OF THE THINGS AND I SAID THIS IN THE COMP PLAN, I'VE SAID THIS FOR YEARS IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRINCETON STARTS WHERE PRINCETON FINISHES, WHERE IT STARTS. WE NEED IDENTITY WALLS. WE NEED OUR PRINCETON LOGO ON A VERY NICE IDENTITY WALL BECAUSE, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T DO A LOT OF THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF 380 BEING TORN UP.

BUT WE NEED SOMETHING SO THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED.

PLEASE. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOME NICE SHINY NEW BUILDINGS OUT THERE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK GREAT, BUT THEY'RE NEXT TO BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

I MEAN, THAT'S A TOTAL OPPOSITE. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET CONTINUITY? THAT IS THE QUESTION. NO, THAT IS HOW CITIES ARE.

YOU KNOW THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF A CITY. IT SHOWS HOW IT HAS DEVELOPED.

IT IS A SLOW PROCESS. IT WILL TAKE TIME AND OVER THE TIME, HOPEFULLY WHEN WE DO GET THOSE SHINY NEW BUILDINGS, THE PROPERTY VALUE WILL GO UP. PEOPLE WILL WANT TO BUILD MORE.

OUR MARKET WILL HAVE IMPROVED WITH THE SHINY NEW BUILDINGS, AND SO THE OLDER BUILDINGS MIGHT GET RENOVATED OR REDEVELOPED ALSO.

BUT YES, IT IS GOING TO BE A GAME OF PATIENCE.

BUT ALSO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT KNOW. I KNOW YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW THIS.

THE EDC CDC OFFER GRANTS TO BUSINESSES. THEY HAVE A.

FACADE. FACADE GRANT, AND IT'S ALL BASICALLY THE BUSINESSES JUST NEED TO SUBMIT A FORM AND THEN GET A GRANT TO HAVE THEIR WHOLE FACADE REDONE.

SO ISN'T THERE SOMETHING SHY THAT YOU GUYS OFFER? AND MAYBE SINCE THEY'RE ALREADY IN PRINCETON, IT WOULDN'T WORK, BUT IT'S A RESTORATION TYPE AND IT'S A, IT'S A BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, FOR WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO RESTORE AN AREA, DOWNTOWN AREA.

IS THAT WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT? THAT WOULD BE THE EDC, CDC GRANTS.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT GRANTS THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR IT, BUT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WOULDN'T DO THAT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY. DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS, LIKE A VOTE OR ANYTHING? YES, MA'AM. WE WOULD LIKE FOR A VOTE TO ALLOW OR DIRECT CITY STAFF TO WORK ON THIS.

I MOTION THAT CITY STAFF WORK. BEGINS WORKING ON THE AMENDMENT FOR THE 380 OVERLAY DISTRICT. BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'VE PROVIDED TODAY, WE MIGHT COME UP WITH MORE, BUT AT LEAST IT'S A START.

SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. I'VE GOT A MOTION TO A SECOND.

I SECOND FOR A VOTE. AND THAT WILL PASS 6 TO NOTHING. MOVING ON TO OUR REPORT AGENDA. NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH,

[H. REPORT AGENDA]

2026 AT 6:30 P.M. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE MONDAY, OCTOBER 5TH, 2026 AT 6:30 P.M.

AND WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENT UPDATES. YES, JUST A FOLLOW UP ON LAST WEEK.

YEAH. FOLLOW UP LAST WEEK. WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING ALL REGISTERED FOR APA.

WE'LL SEND THAT INFORMATION OUT SHORTLY, AS WELL AS A LIST OF ALL THE CLASSES.

YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH THOSE AND DECIDE WHICH ONES YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE. AND THEN AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO A 1 P&Z MEETING A MONTH SCHEDULE.

SO WE'LL BE SENDING OUT THAT NEW SCHEDULE SHORTLY.

I HAVE AN ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING. I'D LIKE FOR US, AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS PREVIOUSLY TO DISCUSS THE APARTMENTS ON 380 NEXT TO WALMART, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU MENTIONED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.

DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THAT? AS FAR AS THE APARTMENTS GO? YES. WE CAN BRING YOU THE UPDATE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY. MISS ELLIS HAD ASKED LAST MEETING IF WE HAD ANY UPDATES ON IT, AND WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. SO? SO WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO GET BACK TO US,

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AND WE WILL BRING YOU THE UPDATE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? WE HAVE GOT ONE THING.

DIRECTOR RUSS AND I TRADED SOME EMAIL ON LOOKING AT A PIPELINE OF WHAT'S YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY CAN'T SHARE EVERYTHING, BUT IF WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF ADVANCE NOTICE, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW IS WE WE SEE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME ON WHEN IT COMES OUT AN EMAIL A FEW DAYS AHEAD OF THE MEETING, AND THEN WE TRY TO BE READY A FEW DAYS LATER.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO IS FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE 21ST WAS A SUBMITTAL DATE.

AS SOON AS WE'VE ACCEPTED THOSE APPLICATIONS, WE CAN SEND YOU A REPORT BASICALLY OF HOW MANY CAME IN WHAT TYPE OF APPLICATIONS CAME IN AND WHAT OUR WORKLOAD IS, THOSE THAT KIND OF A BASIC REPORT WE CAN SEND OUT TO SAY, OKAY, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CALLED PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REVIEWING ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS AND COMPLIANCE WITH ORDINANCES. I CAN'T TELL THAT WE'RE REALLY DOING MUCH IN THE WAY OF PLANNING.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WOULD FACILITATE THAT. WELL WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU IS THE ZONING OR PLANNING.

THOSE ARE THE APPLICATIONS THAT COME IN. SO IF YOU'RE WANTING TO KNOW WHAT IS COMING IN, THAT'S WHAT'S COMING IN.

PLANNING WOULD BE LIKE THIS. US 380 OVERLAY CORRIDOR.

THAT WOULD BE THE LONG RANGE PLANNING, MORE SMALL AREA PLANS.

HOPEFULLY OVER THE YEAR WE'LL DO THE ZONING. UDC WILL BE A PLANNING PORTION, AND IF WE GET TO DO A THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THEN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN WILL START COMING TO YOU ALL.

WE'LL BRING YOU UPDATES OF WHATEVER PROJECTS GOING ON, OBVIOUSLY, OR LET YOU KNOW IF THERE'S PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS FOR YOU ALL TO ATTEND.

BUT YES, SO MAYBE AFTER 380, WE CAN DO A WATERFRONT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT OVERLAY.

ABSOLUTELY. WHATEVER YOU SAY. WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THERE IS ANYWAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYTHING.

TONIGHT, WE ARE ADJOURNED. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.