[00:00:02] GOOD EVENING. I CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. [A.CALL TO ORDER (6:30 P.M.)] IT IS 631. AND IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. PUBLIC APPEARANCE. LET'S TAKE ROLL CALL FIRST. SORRY. OKAY. AND ROLL CALL. THOMAS HESLEP. SHERROD RAHMAN RAHMANI HERE. JANICE. GORBEA HERE. MAXINE ELLIS HERE. RYAN SHIFLET NOT HERE. LARRY THOMPSON HERE. AND CRYSTAL GOLDSTEIN IS NOT HERE. THANK YOU. PUBLIC APPEARANCE SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO RESPOND OR TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS SECTION THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN TO MAKE STATEMENTS OF SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION IN RESPONSE TO A SPEAKER'S INQUIRY, OR TO RECITE EXISTING POLICY AND RECITE IN RESPONSE TO ANY INQUIRY. SO WE DO HAVE THREE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK. AND. THE FIRST ONE. NOW, LINDSAY MAYOR. YOU'RE HERE FOR PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC HEARING, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK AFTER THE CASE IS PRESENTED. I'M THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION. SO THESE ARE FOR FOR CASES. OKAY. IF SOMEBODY JUST WANTS THAT DOESN'T WANT TO SPEAK TO A SPECIFIC CASE, WANTS TO SPEAK UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE JUST FOR PUBLIC APPEARANCE? NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA. ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WE WILL OUR CONSENT AGENDA. [D.CONSENT AGENDA] WE ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ALL CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE. PUBLIC APPEARANCE. OH, OKAY. SORRY. WE'LL GO BACK. YES. KEVIN HISS. COMMISSION. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. KEVIN HISS. IT USED TO BE SITTING UP THERE WITH YOU GUYS. I SEE SOME NEW FACES. WELCOME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO YOU GUYS, I HAVE SEEN I'M NOT UP HERE FOR EVERY MEETING, BUT I WATCH EVERY MEETING AND I PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE AGENDAS, AND I'VE SEEN A EVOLUTION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT SHOWS A LOT MORE INTEREST THAN THERE'S EVER BEEN IN THE PAST. A LOT MORE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS, WHICH IS SORELY NEEDED. AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. IT SEEMS THAT BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS AND I SEE A LOT OF HEAD SCRATCHING AND QUESTIONING, THEY'RE THEY'RE MERITED, THEY'RE WARRANTED. SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH, BUT THAT TAKES TIME. THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF SEASONING. BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU JUST A REMINDER, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE QUESTIONING AND, AND THINGS DON'T SEEM QUITE RIGHT AND THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE, IT'S LIKELY BECAUSE THEY DON'T. MR. THOMPSON, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, I KNOW YOU'VE SERVED ON EDC OR CDC. YOU'VE YOU'VE SERVED WITH THE CITY BEFORE. AND IN A LOT OF WAYS, A LOT OF THINGS ARE SIMILAR AND A LOT OF THINGS THINGS ARE IN SOME WAYS A LITTLE BIT CRAZIER. BUT I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE YOU UP HERE AND PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU THAN YOU DO ME. AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO SERVE. IN ANY CASE, I DID AS AS IS ALLOWED BY THE BYLAWS OF CITY COUNCIL [00:05:08] BYLAWS. I HAD SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, FIVE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC RECOMMEND OR DESIGNATE ME AS THEIR APPROPRIATED SPEAKERS, WHICH BASICALLY ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL BYLAWS, WHICH SINCE YOU GUYS DO NOT HAVE YOUR OWN BYLAWS, YOU OPERATE UNDER ALLOW FOR A LONGER SPEAKING TIME. BASICALLY, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE HANDING THEIR TIME OVER TO YOU. HOWEVER, IT IS UP TO YOU ALL AS A, AS A BOARD WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO ALLOW THAT. AND SO AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE SENT TO YOU BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING BACK FROM THE CITY SECRETARY SAYING THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE OKAY. SO JUST WANTED I DO INTEND TO SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON LONGNECK, THE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. BUT OTHERWISE I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, CONFIRM THAT YOU ALL GOT THAT AND REQUEST, I GUESS, TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHETHER I'VE GOT THREE MINUTES OR LONGER. SHY. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. KEVIN, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPLIMENTS. THANK YOU. YES. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON THAT HAS APPOINTED YOU. THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK I NEED 25 MINUTES, BUT BUT YEAH, THANK YOU PLUS YOURSELF. OKAY. OUR ATTORNEY. OH, I DON'T WORK. OKAY. THERE WE GO. SO JUST UNDER THE BYLAWS, IT'S THE MAX. IT'S NOT FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON. THE MAX IS 15 MINUTES TOTAL UNDER 6.7. YOU CAN VOTE TO EXTEND IT THOUGH, BUT THE MAX IS 15 INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE 20 OR 25 THAT THEY CALCULATED. YES, SIR. YOU'RE CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHAT I PLANNED ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WELL, 15 MINUTES BE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. AND IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC APPEARANCE? ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL START WITH GO BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COMMISSIONER, SO REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE ON THE AGENDA. WE ACTUALLY HAVE NO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE WILL MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING. THE FIRST ONE WILL BE ITEM E ONE ORDINANCE [E. PUBLIC HEARINGS] ORD-2026-11-09-01. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST BY RETAIL AT PRINCETON NINE, LLC. JESSICA HERNANDEZ TO REZONE 1.49 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH BEACH BOULEVARD AND MYRICK LANE IN PRINCETON BUSINESS PARK FROM MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT DASH LIGHT TO M-1 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR. CURRENTLY IT'S M-1 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 47 PD. 47. TO ALLOW PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES AS OUTLINED IN PD 47. IN PLACE OF INDUSTRIAL USES AND PARKER. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. VICE CHAIR. I AM PARKER MCDOWELL, PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO AS IT WAS STATED, THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.49 ACRES FROM THE MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT LIGHT AND ONE TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 47 PD 47. THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OVERVIEW. THE GOLD STAR REPRESENTS WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN RELATION TO THE ENTIRE CITY. HERE'S A MORE IN DEPTH SITE IN CONTEXT. THE YELLOW PROPERTY IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE BLUE OUTLINE AROUND IT IS THE BUFFER THAT NOTIFICATIONS WENT OUT TO. THE CURRENT ZONING OF THIS, AS MENTIONED, IS M ONE. AND FOR FUTURE LAND USE. IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THIS MAP, BUT IT IS LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. SO, AS STATED THAT PD 47 WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY 2026. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT USES C1 COMMERCIAL AS ITS BASE ZONING DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHES ADDITIONAL LAND USE RESTRICTIONS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS INTENDED TO CREATE A COHESIVE, [00:10:02] HIGH QUALITY PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS PARK. THE CURRENT REQUEST WOULD EXTEND THE APPLICATION OF THESE ESTABLISHED PD 47 REGULATIONS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT DOES NOT PROPOSE THE CREATION OF A NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OR CHANGES THE EXISTING PD 47 DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SO IF YOU APPROVE THIS REQUEST, THEY ARE NOT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL STANDARDS. IT JUST WOULD BE TO ENCOMPASS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN PD 47, WHICH PD 47. AS I MENTIONED, THE GENERAL LAND USE IS C ONE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL USES PERMITTED AND USES NOT PERMITTED. THIS ALSO REQUIRES CERTAIN USES TO BE PERMITTED BY SGP THAT NORMALLY AREN'T, WHICH INCLUDES SOME OF THESE USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WOULD BE MEDICAL AND DENTAL LABORATORIES ARE EXPRESSLY PERMITTED WITH CERTAIN MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES ARE PROHIBITED OR REQUIRE ADDITIONAL APPROVAL BY THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL BUILDING HEIGHT WOULD REMAIN 55FT WITH THIS PD DISTRICT. FOR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR PD 47, BUILDINGS MUST INCORPORATE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, DEFINED ENTRANCES, FACADE ARTICULATION, MASONRY MATERIALS CONSISTENT WITH THE ORDINANCE. THE STANDARDS ARE INTENDED TO ESTABLISH A UNIFIED APPEARANCE THROUGHOUT THE PROFESSIONAL PARK. SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER WITH THIS PD WOULD BE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. PD 47 ESTABLISHES A MINIMUM PARKING RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER 400FT² OF GROSS FLOOR AREA FOR MEDICAL OFFICES, DOCTORS, DENTAL OFFICES OR CLINICS, AND CERTAIN HEALTHCARE FACILITIES. OTHER USES REMAIN SUBJECT TO THE PARKING FOUND IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, SUCH AS. THE ORDINANCE GENERALLY REQUIRES AT LEAST 20% OF THE SITE TO BE DEVOTED LANDSCAPING OR QUALIFYING OPEN SPACES, WITH LIMITED ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENTS PERMITTED UNDER SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES. ADDITIONAL STANDARD ADDRESS PARKING LOT, LANDSCAPING, SERVICE AREAS, REFUSE ENCLOSURES AND SCREENING WILL BE REQUIRED. SO LOOKING AT THIS REQUEST AS A WHOLE, STAFF HAS DONE AN ANALYSIS AND THIS REQUEST REPRESENTS A MORE APPROPRIATE LAND USE DIRECTION FOR THE PROPERTY, GIVEN THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND THE CITY'S CONTINUED RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. REPLACING THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL ZONING WITH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT INTENDED FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, MEDICAL SERVICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. COMMERCIAL USE WOULD REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR INCOMPATIBLE INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE. WHILE ENCOURAGING INVESTMENT IN THE SERVICE, NEARBY RESIDENTS. AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THIS REQUEST THE APPLICANT, IF THEY GOT THE ZONING REQUEST RIGHT NOW, WOULD BE PROPOSING TO USE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, MEDICAL SERVICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE COMMERCIAL USES. BUT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO GRANT THIS ZONING REQUEST, THEY COULD USE WHATEVER USE IS ALLOWED WITHIN THAT PD 47. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THOSE USES ARE? YES. LET ME PULL THAT UP. CURRENTLY THE PERMITTED USES ARE DRY CLEANERS, PET SHOPS, STUDIO, RADIO, TELEVISION, LAB, MEDICAL, DENTAL, AND GROCER. USES THAT REQUIRE AN SUP WOULD BE A PAID PARKING GARAGE, AUTO STORAGE, CHILD CARE, FRATERNAL ORGANIZATION, LODGE HELIPORT, CAR WASH CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS PUMPS, CONVENIENCE WITHOUT GAS PUMPS, LAB RESEARCH, LEASE RESEARCH, MOTORCYCLE SALES SERVICES, PRIVATE CLUB RESTAURANT, DRIVE THRU SERVICE YARD, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, SHOPS, STORAGE, PUBLIC UNITS AND THOSE LAST COUPLE USES I MENTIONED WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP. SO IF THEY DECIDE TO GO THAT ROUTE, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS WITH AN APPLICATION. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING. OH YEAH. JUST REAL QUICK BEFORE THAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE FOR THIS IS THAT YOU CAN APPROVE THIS REQUEST. YOU CAN APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION AND IT'S PROBABLY SATISFIED. BUT I NOTICED THAT THIS IS LESS THAN TWO ACRES. BUT DOES IT SATISFY THE COMP AND LAND USE PLAN SINCE IT IS LESS THAN TWO ACRES? CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? SORRY. WELL, FROM WHAT I READ, THIS, THIS WHOLE THING IS 1.47 ACRES, CORRECT? LESS THAN TWO ACRES. DOES THAT SATISFY THE COMP PLAN? BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE TWO ACRES OR MORE. OH, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT TO BE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, IT HAS TO BE OVER TWO ACRES. YES. SINCE THIS IS BEING INCORPORATED INTO THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT, IT COUNTS UNDER THAT WHICH I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT ACREAGE OF THE EXISTING PD 47, BUT IT WOULD BE ABSORBED INTO THAT. DO WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING. DO THEY HAVE THEY PROJECTED OR SAID WHAT THEIR LAND USE WILL BE FOR THIS? YES. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ACCOMMODATE BUSINESSES, JUST THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, MEDICAL SERVICES, AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICING, COMMERCIAL USES. [00:15:10] ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. SO I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND STAFF FOR GUIDING THIS APPLICANT IN MOVING THIS FROM C2 TO PD 47 MAKES LOGICAL SENSE GIVEN GIVEN WHERE THE PROPERTY IS ALONG KIND OF WHERE MAXINE WAS WAS HEADING. I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, OUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY IS TO IS TO REVIEW THE LAND USE, NOT THE USER. HAVING SAID THAT THE PROJECT NARRATIVE NOTES DOES MENTION PROSPECTIVE DENTAL AND URGENT CARE TENANTS. WE ALREADY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF THOSE. SO THERE'S A STRONG COMMUNITY NEED FOR LIKE HAVING A PRIMARY CARE FACILITY. AND ALSO LIKE OUTPATIENT DIAGNOSTIC FACILITIES. SO I HOPE THE DEVELOPER ACTIVELY TARGETS THOSE KIND OF USERS TO, TO, TO COME. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU PARKER. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:47 P.M.. ARE THERE ANY. IS ANYONE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? HELLO, MY NAME IS AIDEN REESE. ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, JESSICA HERNANDEZ, AND RETAIL AT PRINCETON NINE LLC. I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO HERE. JUST SHORE UP SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. THE PLANNED AND PROPOSED TENANTS ARE, I BELIEVE, AN ORTHODONTIST AND A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN OFFICE. SO I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT UP AND REASSERT THAT IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO HELP FILL THAT IN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF NOT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 648. AND WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE E ONE ORDINANCE 2026-11-09-01. I NEED A SECOND, PLEASE. I I SECOND. AND IF EVERYONE COULD VOTE, PLEASE. AND ITEM E.1ORD-2026-11-09-01 IS APPROVED. PASSES FIVE. NOTHING. FIVE ZERO. I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO STATE THAT ONE BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE ISSUE THERE. IT'S. OKAY TO NOT GO ON. THE AGENDA SAID ONE. YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THAT MIGHT WORK BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS CHANGED. OH, NO. THAT'S FINE. I'M SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. WE'RE GOOD. YES, YES. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM E.2ORD-2026-11-09-02. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST BY WALMART REAL ESTATE BUSINESS TRUST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SUV TO ALLOW 100 155FT HIGH CELL TOWER WITH 30FT BY 11 BY 85FT, FENCED IN AREA AND ASSOCIATED UTILITIES IN THE WALMART PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO BEECHAM BOULEVARD AT 701 WEST PRINCETON DRIVE AND PRESTON PARKER. SORRY. THANK YOU. PARKER MCDOWELL AGAIN, PLANNING MANAGER. AS STATED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR 150 FOOT HIGH WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION [00:20:04] FACILITY LOCATED AT 701 WEST PRINCETON DRIVE. WITHIN THE EXISTING WALMART PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO SOUTH BEACH BOULEVARD. THIS IS THE LOCATION OVERALL WITH THE CITY. IT'S SOUTH OF 380 BEAUCHAMP AND YOU CAN SEE IT WITH THE STAR. HERE IS THE SITE IN CONTEXT AS WELL AS WHERE NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. IT'S NOT LOADED ON HERE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY CLOSE TO BEAUCHAMP. AS FAR AS NOTICES GO, WE DID GET ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE HOA. WE DID NOT GET THAT PRINTED OUT IN TIME, BUT THEY DID SEND A LETTER SAYING IN SUPPORT FROM THE HOA, NOT ANY INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS, JUST THE HOA ASSOCIATION. CURRENT ZONING IS C2. AND THEN FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE, THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GRAND BOULEVARD. SO WITH THAT, THIS USE. THE PROPOSED FACILITY CONSISTS OF 150 FOOT MONOPOLE WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 30 BY 85 FOOT FENCED COMPOUND, TOGETHER WITH RELATED EQUIPMENT ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENTS. ON THIS SCREEN, YOU CAN BETTER SEE WHERE IT WILL BE LOCATED, AS WELL AS A ZOOMED IN VIEW OF HOW THEY WILL LAY OUT THE LEASE SPACE FOR THIS TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICE. AND ON THIS SCREEN, THIS IS THE SCHEMATIC OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH 155 FOOT MONOPOLE, AS WELL AS WHAT FENCING WOULD BE AROUND IT. SO AS FAR AS THE APPLICABLE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, IN ADDITION TO THE SUP, THE SECTION 8229 C OF THE PRINCETON CODE OF ORDINANCES ESTABLISH LOCATIONS AND DESIGN STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL RADIO, TELEVISION, CELLULAR MICROWAVE TOWERS. THE STANDARDS RELEVANT TO THIS REQUEST INCLUDE. A TOWER MUST BE SEPARATE FROM RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, OR AN AREA SHOWN AS RESIDENTIAL ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY AT LEAST THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER, A COMMERCIAL ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE MUST BE SEPARATED FROM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY BY AN AREA SHOWN ON THE RESIDENTIAL PLAN BY THE ZONING YARD, PLUS 25FT PLUS TWICE THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE ABOVE TWO STORIES. SO WITH THIS CALCULATION, THEY WOULD REQUIRE 275FT OF SEPARATION BASED ON THE TEN FOOT YARD AND ADDITIONAL 25FT, AND TWICE THE PORTION OF THE 155 FOOT TOWER ABOVE THE ASSUMED TWO STORY HEIGHT OF 35FT. THE SAME PLAN IDENTIFIES THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT AS APPROXIMATELY 57FT AND THREE INCHES FROM THE PROPOSED TOWER. SO WITH THAT, THE PROPOSED LOCATION DOES NOT MEET THAT ORDINANCE. RESIDENTIAL SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FOUR 155 FOOT TOWER. AND WITH THAT, FROM OUR ANALYSIS AS WELL, THE APPLICATION DOES NOT PROVIDE SUFFICIENT JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REQUEST LOCATION OR DEMONSTRATE A LESS INTRUSIVE ALTERNATIVES WHEREVER EVALUATED, SUCH AS STEALTH TOWERS, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, OR SMALLER HEIGHT. AND AS WELL, THE APPLICATION DOES NOT SPEAK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS OBJECTIVE OF CREATING A HIGH QUALITY AND VISUALLY COHESIVE US 380 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SO THIS IS WHEN YOU WOULD NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BALANCING THE NEED FOR STRUCTURES VERSUS KEEPING THE GRAND BOULEVARD, OUR 380 CORRIDOR LOOKING VISUALLY APPEALING AS THE ENTRANCE TO OUR CITY. AND SO WITH THAT, THE COMMISSION HAS AGAIN, THE THREE OPTION TO APPROVE THE SUP SUBJECT TO ANY LAWFUL CONDITION STATED IN THE MOTION ORDINANCE, CONTINUE OR TABLE REQUEST TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR ADVISE TO BE SUBMITTED OR DENY THE SUP STATING THE REASON FOR DENIAL IN THE MOTION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PARKER, COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED? CAN I, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE ENTER A DISCUSSION HERE SO THAT FOLKS ARE AWARE, ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, I DID RECEIVE AN UNSOLICITED UNSOLICITED EMAIL FROM THIS APPLICANT DETAILING THIS PROJECT. THAT VERY DAY I, I FORWARDED THAT TO SHY AND THE CITY MANAGER SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE COME DIRECTLY TO ME VERSUS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO STAFF, YOU GUYS VETTING IT OUT AND THEN BRINGING IT TO THIS, THIS BODY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. GO AHEAD MAXINE. THANK YOU. SHERROD. I RECEIVED THAT SAME EMAIL COMMUNICATION. OKAY. SO JUST LOOKING AT THIS MAP. IS THIS [00:25:05] IS THE PROPOSED TOWER NEAR WHERE THE CURRENT STATION DOCKING STATION IS. WOULD YOU KNOW? IT LOOKS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. LET'S SEE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE. OKAY. RIGHT NEXT TO THE MICROPHONE. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE EXACT LOCATION? IT IS. RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN HERE, IT'S RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THE DRONE AREA. THANK YOU. SO IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE? YES. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT? POWER THAT SIZE IN IN THERE. YOU MENTIONED THAT AN HOA APPROVED THIS. WHICH H A ARE YOU REFERRING TO? I DON'T HAVE THE EMAIL IN FRONT OF ME AGAIN BECAUSE I WENT. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN HELP ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU. YES, I DID WANT TO SAY THE EMAIL I SENT ALL OF YOU TODAY HAS THE APPROVAL EMAIL, THE SUPPORTING EMAIL FROM THE HOA IN THE BODY OF THAT EMAIL. YEAH. SO ON THAT. SO THAT WAS, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, THAT WAS THE BROOKSIDE HOA, RIGHT. BUT THE, THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IS, IS ARCADIA RIGHT. SO I DIDN'T. CORRECT. ARCADIA FARMS IS NEXT DOOR. THE WALMART BROOKSIDE IS, IS FURTHER SOUTH OF IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A MILE DOWN THE ROAD. SO I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE REASON OF YOU, YOU KNOW, GETTING AN HOA APPROVAL FROM A PROPERTY THAT'S FURTHER SOUTH OF THIS PROPOSED LOCATION VERSUS ARCADIA FARMS. AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION WAS ARCADIA FARMS, BECAUSE LOOKING IN THE BLUE AREA, MYRTLE LANE IS ARCADIA FARMS. YOU'RE NOT EVEN GETTING TO. BROOKSIDE UNTIL YOU GET TO FOX RIDGE. SO. I AM PART OF SPRUCE LANE, WHICH IS ALSO ARCADIA FARMS AND PART OF BUCKEYE. SO QUESTION WAS ARCADIA FARMS REACHED OUT TO. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY CORRESPONDENCE FROM THEM IN SUPPORT OR AGAINST A DIRECTOR. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING AS WELL? NO, WE HAVE NOT BEEN CONTACTED BY ANYONE THAT DID GET A LETTER IN THE MAIL FOR THIS CASE, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE IN CASE YOU'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS. THEY ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION THEY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE. ABSOLUTELY. BUT MY MAIN QUESTION IS, WAS ARCADIA FARMS NOTICED REGARDING THIS? SO THE NOTICES WENT TO ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING SHOWN IN THE GREEN, BLUE, SEA BLUE COLOR. THAT'S THE 200FT BUFFER AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER OR ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. AND WE CAN HEAR HIS PRESENTATION AS WELL. SHERROD. NO, NO, PLEASE, PLEASE PRESENT. AND THEN I GUESS. YEAH, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS SHAHZAD MAHMOOD AND I WORK WITH KIMLEY-HORN. WE WERE HIRED BY SBA COMMUNICATIONS AND WALMART. SBA COMMUNICATIONS IS THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER OF THE TOWER. WALMART IS THE LANDOWNER, AS YOU ALL KNOW. SO I'LL START OUT BY JUST CLARIFYING A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE TOWER ITSELF AND ITS LOCATION. SO NUMBER ONE THE DISTANCE THAT THE TOWER IS FROM THE CLOSEST PROPERTY LINE IS MORE THAN 575FT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE THERE WAS A COMMENT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE ZONING MEMO THAT STATED THAT IT WAS MUCH CLOSER, BUT IT IS NOT THE CLOSEST PROPERTY LINE. RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTY LINE IS MORE THAN 575FT FROM THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED TOWER. [00:30:03] THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO BRING UP IS THERE WAS A QUESTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE DRONE TOWERS. SO KIMLEY-HORN NOT ONLY DESIGNED THIS TOWER AND THIS LOCATION, BUT THEY WERE ALSO THE DESIGNER FOR THE DRONES AND THE DRONE STATION THAT WAS PROPOSED AT THE WALMART. AND THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE. SO ALL THE OPERATIONS THAT OCCUR ASSOCIATED WITH THE DRONE AND WITH THIS DESIGN, SAFETY STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. AND LOCATION OF THE TOWER, WHETHER IT WILL AFFECT ANY TYPE OF DRONE ACTIVITY FOR DELIVERIES, HAS ALL BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BY WALMART, BY KIMLEY-HORN AND BY SBA. AND WE FOUND THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT ARCADIA FARMS, WE REACHED OUT TO BOTH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS. THE ONLY ONE THAT RESPONDED TO US WAS BROOKSIDE. WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO ARCADIA FARMS MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT WE DID NOT GET A RESPONSE FROM THEM OR THEIR HOA. WE DID NOTICES WERE SENT OUT BY THE CITY TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE RADIUS. AND AGAIN, LIKE YOUR, YOU ALL HEARD THERE WAS NO RESPONSE THERE. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOWER, IT'S SETBACK MEETING THE ZONING CODE AND REQUIREMENTS, IN MY OPINION, WE, WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SET FORTH WITHIN THE CODE. WHAT I WANT TO ADD TO IS THAT WE HAVE UPDATED THE FENCING OF THE COMPOUND AND WE'VE ADDED LANDSCAPING TO HELP WITH THE VISUAL EFFECT OF THE COMPOUND ITSELF AS WELL. THE REASON FOR THE SIZE OF THE COMPOUND IS NUMBER ONE. VERIZON IS THE ANCHOR TENANT VERIZON. SO LET ME, LET ME START WITH JUST GIVING YOU GUYS SOME FEEDBACK ON TOWERS, BECAUSE I THINK THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE SOME INFORMATION AS TO WHY THEY'RE NEEDED. RIGHT. LET ME MAKE A COMPARISON TO THE WATER TANKS. WE ALL SEE WATER TANKS SUPPLY WATER TO OUR HOMES. LET'S SAY A WATER TANK FOR THIS CITY SUPPLIES 1000 HOMES WITH WATER. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE CITY DECIDES TO DEVELOP ANOTHER THOUSAND HOMES? ANOTHER WATER TANK HAS TO BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE THERE'S A CAPACITY ISSUE, RIGHT? SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR THAT CAPACITY TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. THIS IS WHY THIS TOWER IS BEING DEVELOPED. PRINCETON IS A CITY THAT'S GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY. THE CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT IS AN AREA THAT VERIZON IS SEEING DROP CALLS, LOW LATENCY, BAD COVERAGE. AND NOT ONLY THAT, WE'RE SEEING IT WITH AT&T AND WITH T-MOBILE. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS TOWER IS BEING PROPOSED HERE TODAY AT THIS LOCATION. EVEN ON MY DRIVE TODAY, AS I WAS USING MY PHONE, THERE WERE DROPPED CALLS ALONG THE WAY. THERE WAS SLOW SPEED AND UPLOAD SPEEDS. SO IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT GAP IN COVERAGE, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH WITH CALLS AND AND CARRIER ISSUES, THIS TOWER IS BEING PROPOSED AND IT'S BEING PROPOSED AT THIS HEIGHT TO GET A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF COVERAGE. THE TALLER THE TOWER, THE FURTHER THE RF EXPOSURE IS. AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS THAT ADDITIONAL TOWERS WILL NOT BE NEEDED WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS. THE TALLER YOU HAVE, THE SHORTER YOU GO, THE MORE THAT CONSTRICTS. AND IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS ON HOW YOU WISH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. BUT I WANTED TO ADD THAT I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT THE TOWER ITSELF FROM DAY ONE IS, HAS STRUCTURAL CAPACITY FOR MULTIPLE CARRIERS. LIKE I SAID, WE BELIEVE T-MOBILE, AT&T, THE BIG THREE ALL NEED HAVE A COVERAGE NEED AND CAPACITY NEED WITHIN THE AREA. LIKE I SAID, AS A RESULT OF THE AMOUNT OF INFLUX OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY OF PRINCETON. AND THIS IS BEING PROPOSED IN ORDER TO IN ORDER TO COVER THAT GAP. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE DRONES, IT'S BECAUSE OF CELL PHONES OR CONNECTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DRONES. CORRECT. YEAH. ASIDE FROM THAT I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS. YEAH. THANKS. THANKS FOR COMING. ALWAYS GOOD TO PUT A FACE TO A NAME. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS. RIGHT. SO WE, WE, WE RECENTLY ADOPTED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH I'M, I'M ASSUMING YOU WERE AWARE OF. AND THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT THE THE 380 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR THAT WE HAVE HERE IN PRINCETON TO HAVE VISUALLY APPEALING QUALITY CONSTRUCTION ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. RIGHT. THIS CLEARLY DOES NOT FIT THAT 155 FOOT MONOPOLE RIGHT BY 380 IS A COMPLETE [00:35:03] CONTRADICTION OF WHAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS OUT FOR. RIGHT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY FIRST, FIRST CONCERN. THE ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, RIGHT. THE THE, THE OTHER THING THAT I DIDN'T SEE WAS THERE WAS NO ALTERNATIVES, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE COMP PLAN THAT WE HAVE AND THE VISUAL APPEAL, ETC. THAT IS CALLED OUT IN THE COMP PLAN. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO CELL PHONE TOWERS, RIGHT? VERSUS JUST A PURE MONOPOLE. RIGHT. SO I DIDN'T SEE ANY, ANY OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES BEING, BEING PRESENTED. CAN I RESPOND? YEAH. YEAH. SORRY. NO, NO, I, SO WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS AN OPTION I HAD NO PROBLEM PROVIDING ALTERNATIVES IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE DIRECTED TOWARDS. WE WE'VE DONE MONOPLANES IN THE PAST. WE'VE DONE OTHER STRUCTURES AS WELL THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO SPEAK TO THE CITY ABOUT AND SEE WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE. AND AND TO BE HONEST, I KNOW I EMAILED YOU ALL, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT IT WAS THERE'S SOME JURISDICTIONS THAT ALLOW CONVERSATIONS AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT I WAS NOT AWARE DO NOT I THINK SHY LET ME KNOW AFTERWARDS. BUT I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION WAS TO UNDERSTAND, HEY, TRY TO WORK WITH YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THE CITY WOULD PREFER. UNDERSTOOD. THE, MY LAST COMMENT OR CONCERN IS WHY THIS SPECIFIC SPECIFIC LOCATION. RIGHT. YOU GUYS HAVE NOT MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF OF YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU HAVE SCOUTED OUT OTHER LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM 380. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, A 155 FOOT MONOPOLE IN 380 IS JUST STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, RIGHT? AND ALL THE EFFORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THE COMP PLAN IS FOR NOTHING, RIGHT? SO SO WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE SCOUTED OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE. YES. IS THERE A NEED FOR CELL PHONE? BETTER CELL PHONE COVERAGE HERE IN PRINCETON. ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. BUT PRINCETON, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PRETTY BIG CITY, RIGHT? SO THERE, THERE COULD BE THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, I'M SURE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, THIS TOWER CAN COME AND MEET THE NEEDS OF, OF THE COVERAGE THAT IS THAT IS NEEDED VERSUS THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION. YEAH. SO IF WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE THAT DURING OUR SUBMITTAL, WE WOULD HAVE PROVIDED IT. SO AT THE TIME OF SUBMITTAL, WE WERE UNAWARE THAT WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE YOU GUYS WITH THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAD ALREADY REACHED OUT TO IN ORDER TO TRY TO DEVELOP A TOWER WITHIN THE SAME VICINITY VICINITY. IF WE KNEW THAT, WE WOULD HAVE PROVIDED YOU ALL. IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND A LANDOWNER WHO'S WILLING TO PLACE A TOWER ON THEIR PROPERTY. THAT'S THE HONEST TRUTH. ASIDE FROM ZONING, TRYING TO GET A SITE ZONED. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 25 YEARS. THE TOUGHEST PART IS FINDING A WILLING LANDLORD TO PLACE A TOWER ON THEIR PROPERTY. IT ENCUMBERS THEIR PROPERTY, AND THERE ARE NOT MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DO THAT. AND NOT ONLY THAT, THE TOWER LOCATION HAS TO BE IN AN AREA OF NEED WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE USING PHONES. THEY CAN'T BE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN. THEY CAN'T BE ON THE BORDERS OF THE TOWN. THEY'VE GOT TO BE IN THE MAIN CORRIDORS WHERE EVERYONE IS USING THEIR PHONES TO MAKE CALLS, GET DIRECTIONS IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY. AND THE MORE AND MORE PHONES AND CONNECTED DEVICES THAT WE HAVE, THE GREATER STRAIN THERE IS ON THAT SERVICE AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT HELPS ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I PERSONALLY, YEAH, I USE MY PHONE. IT'S MY LIFELINE. BUT LOOKING AT 155 FOOT TOWER. NOT SURE IF I WANT TO SEE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR COMP PLAN DESIGN FOR 380. BUT ALSO, WOULD YOU HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU DID SEND TO THE ARCADIA FARMS ASSOCIATION THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE? I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP ON IT. WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. COMMISSIONER HESSLER, DID YOU HAVE A I THINK YOU HAD A QUESTION EARLIER. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING ALTERNATIVES. FOR ME, I WOULD STILL BE OPEN TO DISCUSSION, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH BOTH MY COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T WANT TO SEE A BIG 155 FOOT TOWER SITTING RIGHT THERE BEHIND THE THE SEVEN. THE CONVENIENCE STORE DIDN'T MATCH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THERE'S GOT TO BE ALTERNATIVES WHERE IT CAN BE BACKED OFF THE ROAD OR ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY. [00:40:02] BUT I AGREE, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT. YEAH, THE REASON FOR THE HEIGHT IT'S THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT WITHIN THE CODE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY I KNOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I'M JUST THE WAY THE HEIGHT CAME ABOUT WAS, HEY, WE READ THROUGH THE CODE AND IT STATED THAT THIS IS WHAT WAS ALLOWED ON THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY. AND I, AND I AGREE HEIGHT IS NOT THE ISSUE. IT'S TO ME PULLING IN ON BEAUCHAMP EITHER COMING WEST TO SOUTH OR EAST TO SOUTH. THE FIRST THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS A BIG TOWER. YEAH. I AGREE. IT DOESN'T MATCH WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I'D BE OPEN TO ALTERNATIVES. YEAH. TO THE REAR. WE'RE CLOSER TO THE HOMES. WELL, OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER OPTION IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT. OKAY. RIGHT. LIKE. HEY, IF WALMART WANTS IT AND THEY SUPPORT IT, BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE RADICAL, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE GOING TO SUPPORT SOMETHING RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. OKAY. I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS. WE'VE GOT A TERRIBLE CELL PHONE COVERAGE PROBLEM IN THE CITY. IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE WORST. OKAY. I'M CONCERNED IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO SEE A BIG TOWER, ALTHOUGH THIS ONE LOOKS BETTER THAN SOME. A LITTLE MORE STREAMLINED. IT'S NOT A BIG UGLY THING. AND, YEAH, MAYBE THERE'S SOME BETTER PLACE WE COULD PUT IT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DELAY. IF WE PUSH BACK ON THIS AND SEND YOU OFF ON A FACT FINDING THING, TO GO FIND SOME OTHER SITE AND SOME OTHER LANDOWNER WILLING TO DO THIS, WE MAY NOT GET HELP FOR YEARS OR, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR MORE. AND SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND NOBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT THESE CELL TOWERS, BUT THEY'RE THE REALITY OF WHAT WE'RE LIVING WITH. WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. AND SOON. BECAUSE IT'S, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OUR INTERNET GOES OUT. WE CAN'T EVEN USE HOT SPOTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OUR CELL COVERAGE IS SO BAD AND OUR INTERNET GOES OUT A LOT DEPENDING ON YOUR CARRIER. SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANKS. IF I COULD JUST ADD, I'M SORRY. CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? IF WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED IF IF WE LOWERED THE TOWER HEIGHT FROM 155FT? IF I WENT BACK TO THE CARRIERS AND SEE IF 100FT WOULD WORK. IS THAT A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD DISCUSS? ALONG WITH STEALTH OPTIONS ALONG STEALTH OPTIONS. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. RIGHT. SO YEAH, PERSONALLY, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PROPOSAL AS A, AS AN OPTION FOR SURE. I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY COMMISSIONER. AND I DO AGREE. WE DEPENDING UPON WHICH CARRIER YOU HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE TERRIBLE CELL SERVICE AND DROP INTERNET. FORTUNATELY, I DON'T EXPERIENCE IT MYSELF THAT OFTEN. DROP CALLS. YES. HOWEVER, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY COMMISSIONERS THAT WE LOOK AT HAVING YOU POSSIBLY COME BACK WITH THESE OPTIONS TO COME BACK WITH THESE OPTIONS FOR US. IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I'M ABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL AHEAD OF THESE MEETINGS OR I'M UNABLE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I DEAL WITH WITH THEM, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. WE'RE SHY. CHRIS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE IT'S A LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. SO THE COUNCIL PNC OR, AND, OR COUNCIL IS OKAY TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CONSTITUTES A WALKING QUORUM. WELL, WE WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO HAVE THREE OF US, IF I'M CORRECT AT A TIME. OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE. WALKING QUORUM, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THE MAJORITY OF THE GOVERNING BODY. HOW ABOUT A WORK SESSION. YEAH. I THINK A WORK SESSION COULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. KRISTINA, COULD YOU COME UP HERE, PLEASE, SO EVERYBODY COULD HEAR YOU? THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL, PLACE TWO. KRISTINA. [00:45:04] TODD. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE A JOINT WORK SESSION WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AND COUNCIL TO SAVE TIME SO THAT BOTH BODIES, AS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION MAKING FOR THE CITY CAN REVIEW THE PROPOSAL AND DISCUSS IT TOGETHER. WOULD YOU BE ABSOLUTELY OKAY? THE REST OF THE BOARD. BOARDROOM. WHY? SORRY. ONE LAST QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN SYNC WITH THE DISTANCE. BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S A YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE ALTERNATE THAT THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE US WOULD BE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. BUT IF IT'S THE SAME LOCATION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF AND YOU ARE ALIGNED WITH YOUR CALCULATION, WHICH THE MAP SHOWS IT'S 540 ODD FEET FROM FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL VERSUS THE MEMO SAYS 50 ODD FEET, RIGHT? SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, CAN WE CLEAR THAT UP BEFORE YOU LEAVE? SO LET'S GO BACK AND CHECK BECAUSE ALSO THE HEIGHT 60FT IS WHAT'S ALLOWED IN C TWO, NOT 155. SO LET'S GET TOGETHER AND SEE WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THESE THINGS IN OUR CODE. OKAY. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU ANITA. SO AT THIS TIME, 717, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE CELL TOWER THAT IS REQUESTED BY THE WALMART REAL ESTATE BUSINESS TRUST. DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 717. AND WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE E202026-11-09-02. SO WE CAN SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. AND LET'S OPEN THAT UP FOR A VOTE, PLEASE. SHY. IT'S NOT LETTING US. KNOW IT IS. WE NEED ONE MORE. COMMISSIONER HESLOP. THERE WE GO. OKAY. MOTION PASSED. WE WILL. TABLE ITEM E.2ORD-2026-11-09-02. FOR THE FOR THEM TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION IN A WORK SESSION MEETING WITH A PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL. AND. AT 720 COMMISSIONER CRYSTAL HAS JOINED US. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM E DOT THREE OR ORD-2026-11-09-03. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST BY MCAFEE INVESTMENT LLC. KELLY MCAFEE TO REZONE A 1.14 ACRE PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF MONTE CARLO AND LONGNECK ROAD, 1523 LONG NECK ROAD, FROM SINGLE FAMILY [00:50:08] ESTATE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT S, F DASH E TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C-2 TO ALLOW FOR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE USE, WHICH IS CLASSIFIED AS AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MAJOR. AND WITH THAT. PARKER. PARK. MCDOWELL. PLANNING. MAJOR. DEVELOPMENT. SERVICES. AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A 1.14 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MONTE CARLO BOULEVARD AND LONG NECK ROAD TO ZONE FROM SFE SINGLE FAMILY ESTATES TO C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A ZONE CHANGE TO ACCOMMODATE A TEN BAY CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE FACILITY PROVIDING VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, DIAGNOSTIC AND MECHANICAL REPAIR SERVICES. SO HERE'S THE LOCATION OVERALL IN THE CITY INDICATED BY THIS GOLD STAR. HERE'S THE SITE IN CONTEXT. THE YELLOW BOUNDARY IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE BLUE IS WHERE THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN NOTICED. AS YOU HAVE POINTED OUT IN FRONT OF YOU, WE'VE RECEIVED FOUR FORMAL RESPONSES AGAINST THIS PROPERTY. THE CURRENT ZONING, AS I MENTIONED, IS SFE. AND THE FUTURE LAND USE WOULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. FOR STAFF ANALYSIS, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THE BROADER USES OF C2 ZONING WOULD AUTHORIZE POTENTIAL COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UNRESOLVED QUESTIONS ABOUT LUNG CAPACITY, AND INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH THIS PROPERTY, AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PARKING WITH THE BUILDING LAYOUT. AND THIS IS THE ELEVATIONS AND DID RESTATE IF YOU APPROVED THIS ZONING, NOT ONLY WOULD THEY WOULD OPEN IT UP TO ALL OF THE C TWO ZONINGS NOT JUST THIS YEAR'S. IF THEY DON'T GET THE SUP, WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM AFTER THIS, WHICH IS NEEDED FOR AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR IN THE C TWO ZONING, THIS C TWO WOULD STILL STAND IF YOU DECIDE TO GRANT THEM THIS ZONING. AND SO WITH THAT, COMMISSION HAS THE OPTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED C-2 REZONING. CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR TABLE THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REQUEST STATING THE REASONS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION. AND AGAIN, THIS IS BASED OFF THE COMP PLAN STAFF ANALYSIS BASED ON THE COMP PLAN AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FOR THE SITE AS THE FUTURE LAND USE. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION, AND THEY CAN ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. PARKER, AS FAR AS PUBLIC NOTICES SINCE THIS AFFECTS OR IS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL ZONING GOING FROM SF POTENTIALLY TO, TO SEE TO. WAS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NOTIFIED? YES. THEY ARE PART OF THE NOTIFICATION LIST THAT WE SEND OUT. IT WOULD BE NICE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE PACKAGE AS WELL AS PROOF OF NOTE. CAN WE IS THAT POSSIBLE? YEAH, I BELIEVE WE CAN ADD THAT. YEAH. BUT IT'S ON OUR, OUR STANDARD LIST. WE SEND IT OUT TO ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN 200FT. WE HAVE A MAILER THAT WE SEND OUT WITH THE MAP WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. AND THAT GOES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THROUGH CERTIFIED MAIL. SO WE HAVE PROOF OF MAILING IT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I BELIEVE SO, YES. OKAY. YEAH. IT WOULD BE NICE TO TO ADD THAT. YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN ITERATE IN THE NOTIFICATION THAT IT IS ALSO SENT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE 200 FOOT BUFFER. THANK YOU. PARKER, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING AND HAVE TO GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES. YOU HAD MENTIONED IT WAS EITHER 4 OR 5. I THINK IT WAS BACK A FEW MORE SLIDES. BUT I DON'T. OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE NOTIFICATIONS WE SENT IN RESPONSES. YES. DID YOU. AND I'M SORRY I MISSED IT. DID YOU MENTION WAS THERE 4 OR 5? I BELIEVE THERE WAS FIVE. SORRY. I GUESS ONE WAS GIVEN BY DIRECTOR BRUCE, AND I PRINTED OUT FOUR. SO IT'D BE FIVE IN TOTAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CITIZEN FEEDBACK. WHAT ABOUT FEEDBACK FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. DID WE GET ANYTHING THAT THAT IS THAT FIVE IS FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS OR WAS IT. [00:55:05] NOT AT ALL. OKAY. NOT ALL. DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. SO IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, DO WE HAVE TO WIDEN THE, THE THE ROADS. YEAH. SO PART OF THIS IS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO, IF THEY DID GET THIS REQUEST PART OF THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PRELIMINARY PLAT PHASE WOULD BE SUBMIT A TRIP GENERATION MEMO. AND THEN THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHAT ENGINEERING WOULD BE REQUIRED DOWN THE LINE. IF IT DOES INDICATE THAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD, THEY'LL BE ASKED TO DO THAT AT THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. NOW, IS THERE FUNDS FOR THAT, OR WILL THE TAXPAYERS OR THE RESIDENTS BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THAT? I BELIEVE DIRECTORS, PLEASE JUMP IN IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A ANY BOND. OR WE HAVE A COUPLE FINANCIAL TOOLS THEY COULD DO TO GET THAT DONE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SUPPORTED THROUGH BOND OR ESCROW. I BELIEVE. NOW, I WILL SAY I'M NOT SUPER DUPER HAPPY ABOUT THIS ONE. ONLY BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN AUTOMOTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT. AND THEN WE'LL BE HAVING THIS ONE AS WELL. AND I, OUR LAST MEETING, I MENTIONED LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH AUTOMOTIVE, YOU KNOW COMPANIES AND CAR WASHES. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT RIGHT IN THAT AREA. NOT ONLY THAT I GUESS MY LAST THING WOULD BE. DOES THIS PARTICULAR INFRASTRUCTURE, IS IT IS IT GOING AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR IS IT GOING ACCORDING TO AS FAR AS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE MAINLY FOCUS ON THIS ONE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE. AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS AREA AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. AND FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT STATES THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CATEGORY IS IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE SMALL SCALE RETAIL SERVICE AND OFFICE USES THAT MEET THE DAILY NEEDS TO NEARBY RESIDENTS WHILE MAINTAINING COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CATEGORY SHOULD BE DESIGNED TO SERVE AS A LOCAL GATHERING PLACE, OFFERING CONVENIENT ACCESS TO GOODS, SERVICE AND DINING OPTIONS WITHIN A COMFORTABLE, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ENVIRONMENT. SO BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS, WE DO NOT THINK THAT IT MEETS THAT AN AUTO USE MEETS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT WE'VE ADOPTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO WE'RE ASKING TO EXPAND IT TO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL ALLOWED OR PRIVILEGE THAT THEY CAN HAVE. LIKE, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AREA. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT BIASED BECAUSE I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA. MY SON GOES TO SCHOOL OVER THERE AND TRAFFIC IS ALREADY CRAZY RIGHT NOW. SO I'M THINKING AS THINGS PROGRESS, IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN WORSE. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT'S GOING TO FIT IN WITH THE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, THE MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING SOON. AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT BEING ABLE TO LEASE THOSE UNITS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO BE AROUND, YOU KNOW, GREENERY, LITTLE BITTY, CUTESY, YOU KNOW, SHOPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL, I'M SORRY, CONVENTIONAL MULTIFAMILY USAGE, YOU'RE THINKING OF A HIGHER INCOME BRACKET AND WHAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO YEAH, SO THIS WOULD, IF YOU DID GRANT THE ZONING, IT WOULD OPEN IT UP TO ALL C2 USES. THERE'S NOT A STIPULATION ON IT. SO IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT REZONING AND SPEAK TO YOUR SECOND POINT. IT IS UP TO THIS COMMISSION TO DECIDE IF YOU FEEL LIKE THIS MEETS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. SO BASED ON WHAT STAFF SAYS AND WHAT THEY SAY, YOU CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION THAT IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT MEETS THAT OR DOES NOT MEET THAT. WELL, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE OTHER AUTOMOTIVE COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF AN UPSCALE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF YOUR, IF IT, IF I CAN REMEMBER HOW IT'S EXPLAINED TO ME TO BE MORE LIKE A BILL TIRE VERY CLEAN ON THE INSIDE, NO CARS ON THE OUTSIDE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST A REALLY UPSCALE TYPE OF AUTOMOTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE. I'M JUST AFRAID THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL BEGIN TO LOOK LIKE SOME OF THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY COMPANIES THAT WE SEE UP AND DOWN 380 ON PRINCETON DRIVE. AND I'M JUST I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA INSIDE THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WHAT MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING SOON. [01:00:08] IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR A PRESENTATION OR. YES THEY ARE. AND THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. WE'LL HAVE THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. LET'S LET COMMISSIONER HESSLER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? CAN YOU GO BACK TO WHERE THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE LOCATED ON MONTE CARLO, PLEASE? A BIGGER PICTURE THAT HAS ALL THE BLUE AROUND IT. YEAH. OKAY, SO HOW FAR IF WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE THAT THEY DO INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE STREETS, WIDEN THE STREETS, HOW FAR EAST OR WEST ON MONTE CARLO WILL THEY GO? AND HOW FAR SOUTH OR NORTH ON LONG NECK OR FM 75 WILL THEY GO? BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE THEM GO RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THEIR, THEIR THEY'RE BUILDING IN THE FRONT, ON THE SIDE. SO YOU YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE MAYBE 100FT. IS THAT KIND OF HOW IT WORKS? YEAH. I BELIEVE WE'LL WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO, WHEN THEY DO, IF THIS DOES GET PAST ZONING, THEN ONCE THEY START SUBMITTING THOSE PLANS, PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING REVIEWS IT AND KIND OF MAKES THAT CALL BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE FROM ENGINEERING. I THINK WHERE I'M GOING IS WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THE EXPANSION OF MONTE CARLO ALL THE WAY DOWN AND FM 75 DOWN? WHEN IS WHEN IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN? BECAUSE YOU YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S COMING INTO THAT AREA AND IT'S GOING TO CREATE TRAFFIC. I'VE BEEN I'VE DRIVEN IT EVEN IN NON-SCHOOL TIMES, THERE'S TRAFFIC. SO WE'RE APPROVING ALL OF THIS. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE OVERBUILT WITHOUT HAVING PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT IN KNOWING THAT SOLUTION. YEAH. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, AS YOU MENTIONED IN THE PAST, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SOME OF THIS. AND NOW THAT WE ARE REQUIRING IT WE TRY TO CATCH AND MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AS WE CAN. AS FAR AS THE GENERAL 75 AND LONG NECK I'M NOT SURE WHAT PUBLIC WHERE PUBLIC WORKS IS AT WITH THOSE EXPANSIONS OTHER THAN AS IT COMES IN TO DEVELOP, WE ASK DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP THEIR PORTION. OKAY. I WILL SAY AS A AS A BANKER, I HAVE FINANCED THE CHRISTIAN BROTHERS IN MY PAST. THEY'RE HIGH END. I MEAN, THEY DON'T DO AUDI AND BMW, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLASS RETAIL. I MEAN, IT'S YOU GO IN. IT'S EXTREMELY NICE BUILDING. FLOORS ARE VERY CLEAN. EQUIPMENT IS MAINTAINED. I DON'T RECALL ADVERSE PARKING, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU CAN ONLY PARK IN CERTAIN AREAS. LIKE THEY JUST CAN'T PARK ON THE GRASS OR PARK OUT ON THE ROAD AND OVERLOAD IT. I MEAN, THEY GOT TO BRING THEIR CARS IN AT NIGHT, CORRECT? YEAH. IT HAS THE WE HAVE ALSO HAVE OUR CODE COMPLIANCE WHEN IT COMES TO STORAGE OF VEHICLES THAT THEY GO OUT AND IF THEY SEE IT, THEY WOULD WRITE A CITATION FOR IT. AS FAR AS THE ZONING CODE, YOU'RE CORRECT. WE HAVE CERTAIN DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS, VEHICLE STORAGE AREAS, AND THEN LIKE WHERE THE BAYS ARE AS WELL. YEAH. SO KNOWING HOW THESE GUYS DO BUSINESS, NOT SAYING THAT I'M FOR THIS, BUT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY WILL COMPLY AND WORK VERY EASILY WITH THE CITY TO ACHIEVE AND MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. THAT WE LOOK. DID THE STAFF LOOK INTO OTHER AREAS? BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED OVER THIS, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND I WAS THINKING THAT, OKAY, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS INVESTOR COME TO PRINCETON. BUT HOW ABOUT LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT AREA LIKE DOWN, GOING DOWN PRINCETON DRIVE LIKE CLOSER TO FARMERSVILLE WHERE THERE'S STORAGE AREA. SO WE DIDN'T EXPLICITLY GIVE THEM AREAS THEY COULD GO INTO. THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO SHOW KIND OF WHERE WE WANT THESE MORE AUTO CENTERED USES TO GO. AND SO IF THEY DID WANT ANOTHER AREA, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT IF THEY FIND IT. BUT STAFF DOESN'T DO THE THE SITE HUNTING FOR THEM PER SE, OTHER THAN JUST HAVING THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND SEEING WHERE THEY'D BE MORE MOST SUCCESSFUL IN POTENTIALLY COMING WITH A DIFFERENT ZONING REQUEST OR AREAS THAT'S ALREADY ZONED C2. SO I WOULD AGREE THAT HAVING TWO AUTO REPAIRS RIGHT ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER, TO ME, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT GIVEN THIS INTERSECTION IS PRETTY PACKED AND EVEN MORE PACKED NOW WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE GAS AND MCDONALD'S AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE DOWN [01:05:03] 75 AND ALL THE RIDGES DOWN THERE, WE ALREADY HAVE TONS OF TRAFFIC ON IT. AND WHERE THIS IS PROPOSED IS REALLY RESIDENTIAL. SO AND NO ONE'S REALLY FOR IT. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT. AND AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AND WE WANT TO BUILD AND WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I JUST AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY OR MAYBE EVEN A DRAINAGE STUDY ON THIS. SO THERE'S I TO ME THIS, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO. GO RIGHT AHEAD. OKAY. THANKS. SO I'LL AGAIN GO BACK TO THE COMP PLAN. I THINK CRYSTAL AND OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON THIS AS WELL. SO THE COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW CLEARLY AND YOU GUYS HAVE COME AND COMMENTED STAFF HAS COMMENTED IN THE MEMO. SO. SO THE COMP PLAN CLEARLY CALLS OUT YOU KNOW THIS AREA TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. RIGHT. MAJOR AUTO REPAIR IS SERVICE INTENSIVE HEAVY COMMERCIAL THAT EXCEEDS THE SCALE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. RIGHT. POINT NUMBER ONE. POINT NUMBER TWO. THIS CORRIDOR ALSO PER THE COMP PLAN, NEEDS TO SERVE AS A GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN. RIGHT. SO PLACING A MAJOR AUTO FACILITY INTO A GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT CREATES COMMERCIALLY HEAVY ESTHETIC, RIGHT? THAT CONFLICTS DIRECTLY WITH THE VISUAL QUALITY, PEDESTRIAN SCALE, KIND OF WELCOMING NATURE OF A GATEWAY DESTINATION INTO DOWNTOWN, RIGHT. SO SO WITH, YOU KNOW, SO WITH THAT, YEAH, I, I AM YEAH, I, IT WOULD BE TOUGH FOR ME TO, TO SAY YES. YES TO THIS. SO I KNOW. OH, SORRY. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? A QUICK COMMENT? YEAH. WE NEED THIS KIND OF BUSINESS. I THINK THIS IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR IT. IT'S YEAH. AND ALSO, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH SF STATE ZONING AT ALL. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE SOME OF IT HERE. SO YES, WE NEED CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. NO, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT LOCATION. GO AHEAD. AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS. AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT SPECIFIC AREA, THE HOMEOWNERS ARE VERY PROUD OF THEIR GREENERY. THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THEIR LANDSCAPING. AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY SMALL TOWN LOOK, BUT THAT AREA IS MORE SMALL TOWN LOOK AND WIDENING THE ROADS. AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, AND THEY'RE A VERY GOOD AUTOMOTIVE AND A GOOD COMPANY. BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, I THINK, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION. I THINK THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS ALSO AGREE. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEIR PRESENTATION BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE HEART OF THE CITY AND IT LEADS TO OUR OLD TOWN AREA AND DOWNTOWN. SO BUT YES, WE'D LOVE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. YEAH. WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OFF TO THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. GOOD EVENING. I AM LINDSAY MAYOR. I'M A DYNAMIC ENGINEERING, AND I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER OF RECORD ON THIS PROPERTY. AND I'M REPRESENTING CHRISTIAN BROTHERS TONIGHT. FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. AND I HOPE THIS PRESENTATION GIVES YOU COMFORT IN LEARNING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND THEIR OPERATIONS. BUT FIRST, LET'S START OFF, WE TALKED ABOUT IT'S AT THE CORNER OF LONG NECK AND MONTE CARLO. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, JUST ACROSS MONTE CARLO IS A GAS STATION AND MCDONALD'S. SO CHRISTIAN BROTHERS WERE PROPOSING A 6300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. IT'S GOING TO BE A TEN BAY VEHICLE MAINTENANCE REPAIR AND FACILITY. TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO DEMONSTRATE THE COMPATIBILITY ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THEN EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, THEIR MODEL AND HOW THEY OPERATE. I THINK THAT WILL HELP ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS TO, AND THEN ADDRESS A FEW OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR WITH THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO AS WE'VE SEEN THIS MAP, THIS FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. [01:10:05] RIGHT NOW IT IS SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT IS PLANNED TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IN THE FUTURE SO THAT SINGLE FAMILY WILL EVENTUALLY THE ZONING WILL GO AWAY AND IT WILL BE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. THIS IS WHAT THE CITY ENVISIONS AND IS IN THE FUTURE PLAN. SO TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REZONING IT TO COMMERCIAL C2 AS WELL AS A SPECIFIC USE TO ALLOW CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND, YOU KNOW, ADVANCING WITH THIS CHRISTIAN BROTHERS DEVELOPMENT. WE REALLY FEEL LIKE IT ADVANCES THE CITY'S PLAN THAT YOU HAVE PUT FORTH AND PROVIDES A HIGH QUALITY. YOU MENTIONED IT BEFORE. CHRISTIAN MOTHERS IS A VERY HIGH QUALITY SERVICE BUILDING. THAT SERVICES THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I PULLED THIS STRAIGHT FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED. SO IN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A SMALL SCALE SERVICE THAT MEETS THE DAILY NEEDS OF NEARBY RESIDENTS WHILE MAINTAINING THE COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU ALSO WANT TO OFFER CONVENIENT ACCESS TO SERVICES. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT CHRISTIAN BROTHERS IS. SO HERE YOU'LL SEE THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN BEFORE. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE THE OFFICE DOORS AND THEN THE TEN BAY DOORS AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER SIDE AND BACK AND REAR ELEVATIONS. SO LOOKING AT THIS SITE PLAN. SO FIRST I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A ONE DRIVEWAY CONNECTION AND IT'S A MONTE CARLO. THERE IS NOT A DRIVEWAY CONNECTION TO FM 75. ALSO THE TEN BAYS WILL FACE MONTE CARLO. WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING SIDEWALKS ALONG THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FRONTAGE. WE HAVE 40 PARKING STALLS, WHICH IS MORE THAN WHAT MOST OF OUR CHRISTIAN BROTHER DEVELOPMENTS HAVE AT MOST OF OUR STORES. AND I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC, AS THEY SAID. AS PARKER SAID, THERE WILL BE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY COMPLETED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'LL PROVIDE WHAT THE ANTICIPATED TRIPS ARE AND WE'LL GET INTO IN A MINUTE. ABOUT WE HAVE OUR OWN DATA TOO, THAT WE'VE COLLECTED OVER THE YEARS THAT SHOW THAT TRAFFIC IS VERY MINIMAL FOR THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE IT IS YOU ARE GOING THERE. IT'S A DESTINATION. YOU'RE NOT JUST WONDERING AND HEY, LET ME PULL OVER AND STOP HERE. YOU'RE GOING THERE. YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO GO GET YOUR CAR FIXED. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED. ALSO THE DRAINAGE. SO WITH THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THE NORTHEASTERN. NORTHWESTERN CORNER THERE IS A PROPOSED DETENTION POND. SO WE ARE COLLECTING THE STORMWATER RUNOFF. WE ARE DETAINING IT AND RELEASING IT SLOWLY. SO WE ARE NOT IMPACTING ANY KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE IS NO INCREASE IN STORMWATER RUNOFF BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED DETENTION. ALSO, WITH THE UTILITIES, WE HAVE WATER, SEWER AND TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. A CHRISTIAN BROTHERS DOESN'T USE THAT MUCH UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. THE DEMAND IS NOT HIGH. IT'S CLOSE TO WHAT A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE WOULD BE HERE'S OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TREES ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE ON BOTH ROADS. SO CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, WE HAVE 347 LOCATIONS IN 31 STATES. WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1982. THAT'S 44 YEARS. AND THEY'VE NEVER CLOSED A LOCATION. SO WHEN THEY OPEN UP, THEY INTEND TO BE THERE FOR A LONG TIME. I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE TO HAVE 347 LOCATIONS IN 44 YEARS AND NEVER CLOSE A SINGLE LOCATION. THE SHOPS, THEY'RE OWNED AND OPERATED BY LOCAL FRANCHISEES. SO THEY ARE VERY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY ARE AT THE SHOP EVERY SINGLE DAY TO ENSURE QUALITY AND ENSURE ALSO THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS MAINTAINED. LIKE I MENTIONED, THEY'RE VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG CORE VALUES OF CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. AND THEY TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY DO SPONSORSHIPS, THEY DO DONATIONS, AND THEY ACTIVELY GIVE BACK ZBA SCOPE OF WORK. SO THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO EXTEND SERVICES TO THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, THAT IT'S MORE OF A DEALERSHIP EXTENSION. MOST OF THEIR WORKERS, THEY HANDLE POST WARRANTY WORK, DIAGNOSTICS, BRAKES, [01:15:07] SHOCKS, TUNE UPS, ELECTRICAL SERVICES AC ALIGNMENTS, AND A TINY FRACTION IS SOME OIL CHANGE, BUT THEY'RE NOT YOUR QUICK LUBE SERVICE SHOPS. THEY DON'T HAVE A QUEUING LINE. THEY, YOU PARK YOUR LOCATION, THEY BRING YOU INSIDE THE BAY TO WORK ON YOUR CAR. THERE ARE NO, NO WORK IS COMPLETED OUTSIDE OF THE BAY. ALL WORK IS DONE INSIDE THE BUILDING. THEN ALSO, THEY DON'T PERFORM ANY KIND OF BODY WORK. THERE'S NO PAINTING, THERE'S NO TIRE RECAPPING. THERE'S NO HUGE NOISE GENERATORS. THEY DO NOT REBUILD ENGINES OR TRANSMISSIONS. OUR HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 7 TO 6. SO THEY'RE NOT OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS. THEY'RE NOT OPEN LATE AT NIGHT. AND THEY TYPICALLY HAVE 10 TO 11 EMPLOYEES ON STAFF. AGAIN WE MENTIONED THE VEHICLE STORAGE. MOST OF THEIR WORK IS COMPLETED ON THE SAME DAY. SO AGAIN YOU DRIVE TO THE FACILITY, YOU PARK YOUR CAR, THEY BRING IT INTO THE SHOP AND THEY WORK. FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S SOMETIMES WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN'T RETRIEVE YOUR CAR BEFORE CLOSING. AND SO THEN THEY DO PARK IT OVERNIGHT FOR EARLY DROP OFF LATE PICKUP, BUT ALSO AT NIGHT, IF THEY DON'T FINISH YOUR YOUR REPAIR, THEY BRING IT INTO THE SHOP AND STORE IT OVERNIGHT IN THE BASE. SO THERE'S NO CARS STORED OUTSIDE EVER. ALSO, IF YOU BRING YOUR CAR TO THE, TO THE SHOP AND YOU NEED A RIDE SOMEWHERE, CHRISTIAN BROTHERS OFFERS A FREE SHUTTLE SERVICE SO THEY CAN TAKE YOU BACK TO YOUR HOME, YOUR WORK, OR WHEREVER YOU NEED TO BE. AND THEN THEY'LL GO PICK YOU UP TOO, AND BRING YOU BACK TO THE SHOP WHEN YOUR CAR'S READY. SHOP CLEANLINESS IS ANOTHER HUGE ITEM FOR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. THEY HAVE A ZAMBONI STYLE FLOOR CLEANER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FLOOR IS ALWAYS CLEAN, AND THEY AVOID ANY KIND OF RUNOFF OF MATERIALS. THEIR FLUID IS STORED IN DOUBLE WALLED CONTAINERS AND THEY RECYCLE THE CONTAMINANTS. EACH SHOP HAS AN OIL WATER SEPARATOR. SO AGAIN, THEY ARE VERY ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY AND VERY CLEAN. THEY DO CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE CAN SEE AND AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFITS. SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AUTO SERVICE. THAT'S, THAT'S CLOSE TO YOUR, TO YOUR HOUSE. IT'S FOR THE CITIZENS OF PRINCETON. THERE'S ALSO EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. THERE'S TAX BASE THERE. AVERAGE TICKET IS ABOUT $600. AND THEY MAKE, THEY PRODUCE ABOUT ALMOST $3 MILLION IN REVENUE IN A YEAR. THEY CAN ALSO PROVIDE SERVICES TO YOUR CASE, YOUR CAPE PROGRAM, RIGHT. THAT'S A, THAT'S AT THE CITY, THE PRINCETON ISD RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD. WE CAN PROVIDE ASSISTANCE. WE CAN PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE IN THAT PROGRAM. I MEAN, WE HAVE A HUGE BENEFIT THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THAT PROGRAM. SO CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, ONE OF THEIR MOTTOS IS LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR. SO WHAT CAN NEIGHBORS EXPECT? AGAIN, ALL WORK IS PERFORMED INSIDE THE SERVICE SPACE. THERE'S NO BODY WORK. PAINTING TIRE RECAPPING. AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT A QUICK LUBE SERVICE. THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE FROM 7 A.M. TO 6 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. ONLY CLOSED ON THE WEEKENDS. NO VEHICLES ARE STORED OVERNIGHT, AND IT'S NOT YOUR. YOU'RE KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT A TRUE AUTO CENTER REPAIR, RIGHT? WHERE THERE'S VEHICLES STORED AND, YOU KNOW, WORK IS DONE OUTSIDE THE SHOP. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH US. AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH ALL THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HEAR A LOT AND WE HEARD IT TONIGHT IS TRAFFIC. OKAY, SO CHRISTIAN BROTHERS IS NOT GOING TO PRODUCE THE TRAFFIC OF A NORMAL COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. YOU TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, ACCESS IS FROM MONTE CARLO. YOU ARE A DESTINATION BASED BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AND SHOW UP AGAIN. YOU'RE NOT JUST GOING TO BE LIKE, HEY, LET ME STOP HERE FOR A MINUTE AND GO SHOPPING FOR 15 MINUTES. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS. SO IT DOESN'T GENERATE THE TRAFFIC THAT SOME OF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. CHRISTIAN BROTHERS WITH THEIR 347 STORES ON AVERAGE, WE SEE 18 TO 22 CARS A DAY. THAT'S NOT PUTTING A LOT OF CARS ON THE ROADWAY. [01:20:05] SO YOU'RE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS WE HEARD TONIGHT. SO WE TALKED ABOUT WE'RE PUTTING SIDEWALKS ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE ON BOTH ROADWAYS. THERE'S DETENTION PROVIDED. SO THERE'S NO ADVERSE IMPACTS IN YOUR WATER. AND SEWER DEMAND IS VERY LOW. SO THERE'S NOT A STRAIN ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ALSO HEAR ABOUT NOISE CONCERNS. SO WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF STUDIES WITH OUR BUILDING AND ITS MASONRY. THE AIR COMPRESSOR IS IN AN ENCLOSED BUILDING WITH A STEEL DOOR. AND SO WE MAKE ABOUT 50 TO 55DB AT 100FT AWAY. THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN AIR CONDITIONER UNIT. THE NOISE IS VERY MINIMAL. WE WE REALLY DO TRY TO LIMIT THAT. AGAIN, ALL WORK IS PERFORMED INSIDE THE BASE AND THEY FACE MONTE CARLO. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HUGE NOISE GENERATOR. OF OUR LOCATIONS. WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCATIONS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL EARLY CHILDCARE, ELEMENTARY. AND WE'VE NEVER RECEIVED A NOISE COMPLAINT. SO WE TALK ABOUT THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TONIGHT AND LOOKING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IN THE PLAN WAS PRINCETON IS CONGESTED. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE RAPID, RAPID RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, THE LACK OF SERVICES, THE LACK OF BUSINESSES, MAINTAINING QUALITY OF LIFE. THERE'S NO BUSINESSES OR WORK, TOO MUCH RESIDENTIAL AND NOT ENOUGH COMMERCIAL. RESIDENTS HAVE TO LEAVE PRINCETON FOR THEIR NEEDS. SO CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE HITTING ALL OF THESE ITEMS THAT WERE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZEN AND THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS PUT TOGETHER TO SOLVE. SO WE DO FEEL LIKE WE DO MEET THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE LOCAL ACCESS TO THE NEEDS TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE DOING JOB CREATION. WE HAVE THE BALANCED GROWTH THAT YOU GUYS WANTED. YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY, WE'RE PROVIDING THAT LANDSCAPING AND THAT NICE FACILITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND EVERYTHING'S DONE INSIDE OUR BUSINESS AND WE HAVE A QUALITY PRODUCT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO OUR SERVICES AS WELL AS OUR DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE LOW IMPACT TO THE STRUCTURE. SO YOU GUYS PUT TOGETHER THE VISION, YOU HAD YOUR VALUES, YOU HAD YOUR GOALS. AND NOW I THINK IT'S TIME TO DO YOUR ACTION AND VOTE IN CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT THERE WOULD BE NO VEHICLES OUTSIDE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I LIVE DOWN THE FORT WORTH AREA BEFORE MOVING THIS WAY. AND I'VE DRIVEN PAST CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AT EIGHT, NINE, 10:00 AT NIGHT, AND THERE'S CARS SITTING OUTSIDE AND WE ALREADY SEE THAT ALONG. 380. AND THERE ARE RESIDENTS, THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT COMING HOME AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW, TEN, 11:00 AT NIGHT. PARKING LOT FILLED WITH CARS. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FINISH EVERY CAR EVERY DAY. BECAUSE YOU DO EXHAUST SYSTEMS. YOU DO, YOU KNOW, FLEET SERVICES. I'M LOOKING AT YOUR LIST OF SERVICES THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE AND WHICH IS GREAT. BUT AND THEN ANOTHER CONCERN IS A LOT OF RESIDENTS HERE IN PRINCETON DO HAVE HOME SCHOOL, CHILD CARE WORK FROM HOME PARENTS. I'M A WORK FROM HOME AND I'LL TELL YOU WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING A ROOF DOWN THE STREET, I'M HEARING IT AND IT AFFECTS MY WORK BECAUSE IF I'VE GOT MY WINDOW OPEN BECAUSE I WANT THE NICE, COOL BREEZE. I CAN'T WORK, OR I HAVE TO CLOSE MY WINDOW AND PAY FOR AIR CONDITIONING. SO I PERSONALLY CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CONCERN. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE IS GOING TO BE AN AUTOMOTIVE ACROSS THE WAY AND CORRECT ME. PARKER SHY. I THINK THAT'S JUST A SMALL IT'S A, IT'S NOT A MAJOR ONE. I THINK IT'S OIL CHANGES. IT'S A MINOR. YES, MA'AM. IT'S ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S AUTO REPAIR MINOR. IT ACTUALLY IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT UNDER THE ZONING THAT EXISTS ACROSS. [01:25:03] SO THAT'S HOW THEY GOT THE CORRECT. I JUST, I LOVE THE IDEA OF CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. I'M JUST PERSONALLY. NOT SURE IF IT'S THE RIGHT LOCATION PERSONALLY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO TO ADDRESS YOUR THREE ITEMS. SO AGAIN WE BRING THE CARS INSIDE THE BAYS AT NIGHT AND STORE THEM. WE DON'T STORE THEM OVERNIGHT THAT THE CARS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SAW OR THAT YOU DID SEE ARE PROBABLY FROM DROP OFFS, PEOPLE LEAVING THEIR CARS FOR A DROP OFF. THE NOISE CONCERN, I HEAR YOU AND IT'S CHRISTIAN BROTHERS IS NOT A TYPICAL AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT'S NOT THE TYPICAL AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR CENTER. EVERYTHING IS DONE INSIDE THE BAY. THERE'S NO WORK DONE OUTSIDE AND THEIR COMPRESSOR BUILDING, WHICH TENDS TO MAKE THE NOISES INSIDE A ENCLOSED BUILDING WITH THE STEEL DOOR. SO THAT DOES REDUCE AND BASICALLY ALMOST ELIMINATES THE NOISE. SO I KNOW THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ROOFERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT CHRISTIAN BROTHERS IS DIFFERENT. THEY'RE NOT THE ROOFERS, AND THEY DO CONTAIN THE NOISE BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR IT EITHER. RIGHT? THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYEES HEARING, TOO. SO THEY DO. THEY HAVE DONE STUDIES AND HAVE FOUND WAYS TO REDUCE THE NOISE. AND THEN YOUR THIRD ITEM TALKING ABOUT THE MINOR VERSUS THE MAJOR. SO I'M NOT PREPARED. THERE WAS ONE I THINK SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE THAT KNOCKED US OVER FROM A MINOR TO A MAJOR. BUT AGAIN, WITH THE SUB, YOU CAN DO STIPULATIONS. YOU CAN VOTE IN SOME STIPULATIONS TO THE ORDINANCE AS WELL. YOU HAVE THAT OPTION. IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR THING THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. WELL WILL YOU GUYS STILL BE WILLING TO BRING YOUR BUSINESS TO PRINCETON IF IT'S NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA? BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE OFF OF PRINCETON DRIVE BECAUSE IT'S BEAUTIFUL. SO I AM THE CIVIL ENGINEER. I'M GOING TO LET BILLY, WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, BUT I DO KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF STUDIES THAT THEY DO WHEN THEY LOOK AT LOCATIONS. OKAY. HEY, GOOD EVENING. I'M BILLY GREEN 717725 KATY FREEWAY, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77094. SO ABOUT OTHER LOCATIONS, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, OUR CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER, WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING TO FIND LOCATIONS. SO THIS IS WHERE WE LANDED. WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT LOCATION. AND RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION. WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. HAVE PRINCETON STAFF SHOWED YOU GUYS ANY OTHER LOCATIONS? HAVE THEY GIVEN YOU ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES OR MY UNDERSTANDING? NO. OKAY. OKAY. AND AGAIN, ALSO I THINK COMMISSIONER MADE A COMMENT ABOUT OVERNIGHT STORAGE. AND AGAIN, I'LL ECHO WHAT LINDSEY SAID WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SUP YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT ANY HOUR RESTRICTIONS ON FOR CARS ON SITE. FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN PUT A 72 HOUR LIMIT ON ANY CAR. THE REASON WHY I SUGGEST 2072 IS BECAUSE WE'RE CLOSED ON THE WEEKENDS. SO FOR AN EVENT, IF SOMEONE WERE TO DROP OFF A CAR ON A FRIDAY NIGHT OR SATURDAY, OR CLEARLY WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLEAR THE LOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE. SO YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ANY HOUR RESTRICTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CARS REMOVED. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, THANKS. THANKS FOR COMING OVER. YES, I'M I'M ALL FOR THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET MORE COMMERCIAL HERE IN PRINCETON. THAT'S THAT'S A GIVEN. ENOUGH OF THE, OF, OF RESIDENTIAL. IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ECHOING OTHERS THE COMMENTS, THE CONCERNS THAT OTHERS HAVE HERE IN THIS BODY IS JUST THE LOCATION, RIGHT? THE COMP PLAN CALLS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT CORRIDOR TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GATEWAY INTO, INTO DOWNTOWN AN AUTO BODY OR AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP IS YOU KNOW, IS SERVICE INTENSIVE. WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SUGARCOAT IT AS, AS MUCH AS WE WANT, BUT IT IS IT IS SERVICE INTENSIVE, HEAVY COMMERCIAL THAT EXCEEDS KIND OF THE THE SCALE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND IT BEING A GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN. RIGHT. SO THAT IS MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH, WITH WITH JUST THE LOCATION. [01:30:03] BUT YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING OVER. AND YEAH, AS FAR AS ATTRACTING MORE BUSINESSES AND SETTING UP MORE COMMERCIAL HERE, THAT IS A NEED. BUT IN THIS CASE, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY BIGGEST THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 801. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING? MR. HISS. DID DID YOU ALL GET A PACKET? OKAY. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOPEFULLY YOU WILL. I'M GOING TO TALK QUICK. SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH ME. JUST A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS. IN THE PAST, AND I THINK PROBABLY THIS IS A COMMON THING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS. I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW, AND I REALLY LIKE THAT THE CITY HAS PUT SOME EFFORT INTO, INTO GETTING YOU GUYS LIKE, YOU KNOW, TRAINING THAT I WAS BEGGING FOR WHENEVER I WAS SITTING IN THOSE SEATS FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSION. AND WHAT YOU GUYS KNOW IS THAT YOU'RE NOT APPROVING BUSINESSES. YOU'RE, IF YOU FIND YOURSELF PAYING TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE BUSINESS THAT MAY BE OPENING, YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT YOUR ACTUAL OBLIGATION IS. YOU'RE DECIDING LAND USE. CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, I WOULD LOVE IF THEY OPENED CITY OF PRINCETON. I THINK THEY'RE A REALLY GOOD JOB. BUT YOU GUYS ARE NOT APPROVING CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. YOU'RE PROVING LAND USE, AND FIVE YEARS LATER THEY DECIDE THERE'S A BETTER SPOT IN PRINCETON. WHAT'S THERE? YOUR DECISIONS CARRY WITH THE LAND FOREVER. YOU ARE NEVER, EVER DECIDING A BUSINESS. YOU'RE DECIDING LAND USE. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A IT'S A COMMON ISSUE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS ALL OVER THE PLACE. IN ANY CASE I'LL GO AHEAD AND CARRY ON TO THE NOTES THAT I'VE GOT HERE. I'VE BEEN DESIGNATED A SPOKESPERSON BY FIVE RESIDENTS. THEIR WRITTEN DESIGNATIONS ARE ON FILE WITH THE CITY UNDER BYLAWS SECTION 6.6, WHICH APPLIES TO THIS COMMISSION THROUGH SECTION 8.4. I THANK YOUR CONSENT TO EXTEND MY TIME. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M KEVIN HISS. I LIVE ON LONG NECK ROAD. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO DESIGNATED ME IN OPPOSITION TO E3 AND E4. LET ME SAY AT THE START OF WHAT EXACTLY THIS IS NOT. THIS IS NOT OPPOSITION TO GROWTH. IT'S NOT OPPOSITION TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR TO CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AS A BUSINESS. PRINCETON NEEDS MORE SERVICES. AND THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF YOU IS MUCH MORE NARROW THAN THAT IN GENERAL. COMMERCIAL ZONING AND MAJOR AUTO REPAIR SHOP. THE RIGHT TO USE THE RIGHT TO LAND USE FOR THIS CORNER. AND UNDER THE PLAN THE CITY HAS ADOPTED ONLY FOR 84 DAYS AGO. THE RECORD. YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN ANSWERS THAT QUESTION, AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT. PLEASE FOLLOW ALONG IN THE HANDOUT. THE SECTIONS ARE NUMBERED AND THE ORDER I'LL SPEAK. SO SECTION ONE, YOUR STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL. SO START WITH SECTION ONE BECAUSE IT MAY BE THE MOST IMPORTANT PAGE IN YOUR PACKET. YOUR PLANNING MANAGER TOLD THE APPLICANT IN WRITING ON SEPTEMBER 14TH. THE STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL. THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED ANYWAY. NOW TONIGHT'S E THREE MEMO REACHES THE SAME CONCLUSION. IT READ. I'LL READ IT EXACTLY THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE REQUESTED ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICANT, APPLICABLE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND RELATED COMPATIBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE POLICIES. AND THE E4 MEMO ADDS, EVEN IF THE PROPERTY WERE REZONED TO C2, CONCERNS REGARDING THE SUITABILITY OF AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MAJOR AT THIS LOCATION WOULD REMAIN. ONE THING YOU WON'T FIND IS THE WORD DENY IN THE MEMOS. RECOMMENDATION SECTIONS, THEY LIST OPTIONS. SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE OR WHEN YOU VOTE, YOU ASK STAFF DIRECTLY DOES STAFF RECOMMEND DENIAL? TONIGHT, AS IT DID ON SEPTEMBER 14TH. SO SECTION TWO, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. [01:35:01] SECTION TWO IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. FOR INSTANCE, PLAYBOOK, WHICH WAS ADOPTED ON AUGUST 10TH. NOW FOR REFERENCE PAGE NUMBERS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT THEY ARE THE PAGE NUMBERS FIRST. WHICH PLAN APPLIES THE ADOPTION OR THE ADOPTING ORDINANCE TOOK EFFECT IMMEDIATELY ON AUGUST 10TH. IT KEEPS THE OLD 2019 PLAN ONLY FOR APPLICATIONS FILED BEFORE THAT DATE. THIS APPLICATION, EXHIBIT A, WAS SIGNED AND NOTARIZED ON AUGUST 13TH. SO THE 2026 CURRENT PLAN DOES GOVERN. AND SECTION FOUR OF THAT ORDINANCE SAYS THIS COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER IT SECOND. WHAT IS WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC CORNER? STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AGREE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. THE PLAN DEFINES THAT AS SMALL SCALE RETAIL SERVICES AND OFFICE USE THAT MEET THE DAILY NEEDS OF NEARBY RESIDENTS, WHILE MAINTAINING COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH A, QUOTE, SMOOTH TRANSITION TO NEARBY RESIDENTIAL USES. IT DESCRIBES THESE AREAS AS PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AND HUMAN SCALED. NOW LOOK AT THE VERY NEXT CATEGORY CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL. THAT'S WHERE THE PLAN PUTS, QUOTE, AUTO ORIENTED COMMERCIAL DINING, LODGING AND SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT RELY ON REGIONAL, REGIONAL ACCESS AND VISIBILITY ALONG FREEWAYS AND MAJOR ARTERIALS. A TEN BAY REPAIR REPAIR SHOP WITH 40 PARKING SPACES IS THE DEFINITION OF AUTO ORIENTED BUSINESS. THE. THE PLAN PUTS THAT TYPE OF SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE. THIRD, THE PLAN SINGLES OUT THIS EXACT INTERSECTION. PAGE 82 LISTS LONG NECK ROAD AND MONTE CARLO BOULEVARD AS A DOWNTOWN GATEWAY. AS WAS MENTIONED BY COMMISSIONER RAMANI WHICH THE PLAN DESCRIBES AS PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED. AS PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED. SORRY, I LOST MY PLACE. PLACEMAKING FEATURES THAT HELP DEFINE THE BOUNDARIES AND IN IDENTITY OF PRINCETON'S DOWNTOWN CORE AND PAGE 84 NAMES BOTH LONG NECK AND MONTE CARLO AS HIGH AMENITY CORRIDORS. THE MAPS AGREE. ON PAGE 81 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE DOWNTOWN GATEWAY MARKER SITS ON THIS INTERSECTION ON PAGE 99. LONG NECK AT THIS CORNER IS SHADED AS AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENT AREA, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW THAT INTERSECTION HAS STATISTICS FOR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF DEATHS FROM CAR ACCIDENTS IN THE CITY OF PRINCETON. ON PAGE 115, A MULTIMODAL SPINE RUNS ALONG BOTH ROADS PAST THIS CORNER NEXT TO JM CALDWELL COMMUNITY PARK. THE PLAN PICTURES PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING THROUGH THIS CORNER, NOT QUEUING FOR A SERVICE BAY. FINALLY, RESIDENTS TOLD THE CITY THAT THEY WANT WHAT THEY WANTED HERE IN APPENDIX C OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY. RESIDENTS LISTED LONG NECK ROAD, MONTE CARLO AS A TRANSPORTATION SAFETY LOCATION AND ASKED FOR MORE SIDEWALKS ON MONTE CARLO EAST OF LONG NECK. THEY ASKED FOR THIS CORNER TO BE SAFER AND MORE WALKABLE, NOT BUSIER, AS. SECTION THREE PD 46, SECTION THREE. YOU MAY HEAR THAT THERE'S ALREADY COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THE AREA ACROSS THE STREET. NOW THERE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM LONG NECK AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THIS SAME INTERSECTION. YOU GUYS ADOPTED PD 46. NOW, ASIDE FROM THE OBVIOUS ILLEGALITIES WITH THAT ZONING THAT I POINTED OUT BEFORE, PD 46 IS BUILT ON A C2 BASE. AND JUST LIKE THIS REQUEST WITH A LIST OF USES YOU ALL CHOSE TO PROHIBIT, THAT LIST INCLUDES AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, MINOR AND SERVICE STATION, CAR WASH, TIRE DEALER, CONVENIENCE STORE, GAS PUMPS, AND AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MAJOR. SO THE COMMERCIAL ZONING ACROSS THE STREET BANS THE VERY USE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. THE CITY HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT THIS INTERSECTION AND DECIDED AUTO REPAIR DOES NOT BELONG HERE. APPROVING THIS WOULD CONTRADICT A DECISION MADE BY THE CITY JUST ON THE OPPOSITE CORNER. AND NOTE THE APPLICANT'S OWN SITE PLANS LABEL 1503 LONG NECK WITH COUNCIL ADDED, WHICH COUNCIL ADDED TO PD 46 IN APRIL AS SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE. THE APPLICANT DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS ACROSS THE STREET. SO SECTION FOUR C2 IS PERMANENT. SECTION FOUR A REZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND, NOT WITH A TENANT. STAFF SAYS IT PLAINLY EVEN IF THE CP WERE DENIED. [01:40:07] JUST A NOTE. FIVE MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. STAFF SAYS PLAINLY EVEN IF CP WERE DENIED APPROVAL OF C2, ZONING WOULD STILL AUTHORIZE OTHER USES PERMITTED BY THAT DISTRICT UNDER THE CITY'S OWN USE CHART. AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MINOR SERVICE STATION IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN C2. THE CODE DEFINES THAT AS FUEL SALES, LUBRICANTS, PARTS REPLACEMENT, AND STATE INSPECTIONS. NOW, AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NO OTHER HEARING, NO SUP P, THE CITY'S OWN MAIL NOTICE DESCRIBING C-2 AS ALLOWING OTHER REGIONAL COMMERCIALS. BASICALLY, IT'S A PERMANENT DECISION. ZONING IS WHERE YOU GUYS DECIDE WHAT THIS CITY LOOKS LIKE FOREVER. HERE'S THE CONTRAST I'D ADD TO YOU. ASK YOU TO NOTICE ON THIS SAME AGENDA ITEM E ONE STAFF STEERED A DIFFERENT APPLICANT AWAY FROM C-2 AND INTO TAILORED PLAN DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE, QUOTE, IT LIMITS CERTAIN HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE NEAR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. IF C-2 WASN'T APPROPRIATE THERE, IT ISN'T APPROPRIATE HERE, NEXT TO HOMES AND AT A GATEWAY. AND THE OPERATING PROMISES IN THE NARRATIVE ARE NOT CONDITIONS OF C-2. THE NARRATIVE SAYS THAT THE TEAM, QUOTE, WILL EVALUATE SCREENING AND MASONRY MASONRY WALLS WHERE APPROPRIATE. THAT'S NOT A COMMITMENT YOU CAN ENFORCE, NOR THE CITY. SECTION FIVE. INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I'M ALMOST DONE HERE. THE PLAN'S FIRST VALUE IS INFRASTRUCTURE. FIRST DEVELOPMENT. QUOTE SHOULD ALIGN WITH ROADWAY DRAINAGE UTILITY AND SERVICE CAPACITY. YOUR STAFF SAYS LONG NECK QUOTE HAS NOT BEEN IMPROVED FOR THIS KIND OF TRAFFIC THAT THE MATERIALS LACK, QUOTE, SUFFICIENT SUPPORTING TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS AND THAT THEY DO NOT ESTABLISH FINAL DRAINAGE ADEQUACY. THE PLAN LISTS LONG NECK FROM WILLOW LANE JUST SOUTH OF HERE ONTO THE NORTHERN CITY LIMIT AS THE TOP PRIORITY AREA OF SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S AN ADMISSION THAT THE ROAD ISN'T THERE YET. AND I'LL REMIND YOU THAT THE ESCROW THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT ONLY PAYS FOR THAT SMALL SECTION OF ROAD IN FRONT OF THIS BUSINESS. NOW, AS OF JANUARY 12TH, COUNCIL HEARING ON PD 46 SAID. STAFF SAID LONG NECK IS SLATED IN THE CAPITAL. PLANS TO BE FOUR LANES. WHEN ASKED WHETHER THEY WERE ANY PLANS TO ACTUALLY WIDEN IT? THE ANSWER WAS NOT THAT I KNOW. I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO PUT THAT QUESTION TO STAFF TONIGHT. IF LONG NECK IS TO BE WIDENED, THEN WHEN AND WITH WHAT IDENTIFIED FUNDING AND WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD BE TAKEN FOR THAT RIGHT OF WAY AND ADEQUATE ENGINEERING. AND THE APPLICANT'S OWN PLAN ALIGNMENT CHARTS RATES, QUOTE, INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST TO BE DEMONSTRATED. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN IT. THEY HAVE TOLD YOU SO AGAIN NEAR THE END HERE. THE SUP THE SUP. THE CODE DOES NOT LET COUNCIL GRANT SUP ON HOPE SECTION 8230 B OF THE ORDINANCES SAYS THAT COUNCIL MAY GRANT ONE ONLY AFTER DETERMINING THAT THE USE IS HARMONIOUS AND ADAPTABLE TO ADJACENT USES, AND THAT ADEQUATE PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR STREETS. ACCESS TO DRAINAGE. STAFF SAYS NEITHER OF THOSE HAVE BEEN SHOWN. THE SITE PLAN ITSELF ISN'T READY FOR DECISION. THE BUILDING HEIGHT READS X X FEET. THE SITE DATA TABLE PUTS THE LOT AREA IN FRONT OF IN THE FRONT YARD AS 6300FT² ON THE REAR YARD LINE. A SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE LOT BORDERS THAT ENTIRE SOUTH LINE AND THE CODE REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT SOLID MASONRY WALL THERE. THE PLAN SHOWS AN EXISTING FOUR FOOT WIRE FENCE AND REFERS TO CIVIL PLANS THAT AREN'T YOUR PACKET. THE NARRATIVE SAYS THAT THE USE QUOTE ALIGNS WITH DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD. READ WHAT THE PLAN SAYS THAT DISTRICT IS PRIMARILY CHARACTERIZED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES WITH, QUOTE, SOME SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES. THAT IS AN ARGUMENT AGAINST A TEN BAY AUTO REPAIR SHOP. NOT FOR IT. AND THE DEVELOPER IS LISTED AS CBH PROPERTIES, MIDLOTHIAN, TEXAS, LLC. SO SECTION SEVEN, VERY LAST LITTLE BIT HERE LISTS QUESTIONS ON THE RECORD LEAVES OPEN. I'D ASK YOU TO PUT THEM TO STAFF BEFORE ANY VOTE. [01:45:01] FIRST, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STATE LAW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 211.007C-1 REQUIRES WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT LEAST TEN DAYS BEFORE THIS HEARING. FOR A ZONING CHANGE AFFECTING RESIDENTIAL ZONING. THIS REMOVES RESIDENTIAL ZONING. THE MEMO DOCUMENTS THE MAILED NOTICE TO THE NEWSPAPER NOTICE AND TO THE SIGN. BUT IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT NOTICE OF PRINCETON ISD. SO WAS IT SENT TO WHOM AND TO WHEN IN AS ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES BEEN ADDRESSED ON IT. SECOND. THE CITY ZONING CODE SAYS THAT THE CASE IS ADVERTISED ONLY AS APPLICANTS GIVEN A WRITTEN RESPONSE TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL. SO WHERE IS THE RESPONSE TO STAFF'S DENIAL AS IS REQUIRED. AND THE APPLICATIONS FEE LINES AND SUBMITTAL CHECKLISTS ARE BLANK. SECTION EIGHT. THIS IS THE VERY LAST PAGE. THE CODE TELLS YOU WHAT TO WEIGH, WHETHER THE USES ARE APPROPRIATE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, WHETHER THE CHANGE FITS, PLANS FOR STREETS AND UTILITIES, THE ENVIRONMENT, CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND TRAFFIC. EVERY ONE OF THOSE POINTS TO DENIAL. AND YOUR STAFF HAS ALREADY SAID SO IN THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE. THE SUGGESTED MOTIONS ARE ON THAT PAGE. I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS. RESIDENTS GAVE THEIR TIME TO BUILD THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. MYSELF INCLUDED. COUNCIL ADOPTED IT 84 DAYS AGO. YOUR STAFF APPLIED IT AND RECOMMENDED DENIAL. THE LINE WAS DRAWN ON THE OPPOSITE CORNER AND THE APPLICANT HASN'T SHOWN THE ROAD. THE DRAINAGE. THE SITE PLAN ALREADY APPROVING THIS WOULD TELL EVERY RESIDENT WHO PARTICIPATED. THAT PLAN DOESN'T MEAN WHAT IT SAYS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL TO BOTH ITEMS E THREE AND E FOR THIS EVENING, AND TO ENTER THIS HANDOUT INTO THE RECORD THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW MR. HISS WAS REPRESENTING HIMSELF. ELLEN, YOUR GURU. THE PRAIRIE, WHICH I PROBABLY JUST MESSED THAT UP. SORRY. ELLEN. FRANCES KIRBY SHAWN HIS BIRTH RIGHT. AND HIMSELF KEVIN HISS AS RESIDENTS FROM WITHIN THAT AREA. AND IS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE. AND IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? THERE'S NO ONE ELSE. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 819. AND WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM E THREE AND FOUR REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM A SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE RESIDENTIAL TO C TWO. THIS DENIAL IS BASED ON THE REQUESTS IN CONSISTENCY WITH OUR COMP PLAN. IT'S IN INCOMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INADEQUATE INADEQUATE ROADWAY ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG LONG NECK. AND THE OVERBOARD LAND USE AND ENTITLEMENTS GRANTED BY CONVENTIONAL C TWO ZONING AT A DESIGNATED GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN. I'LL SECOND. ACTUALLY, WE CANNOT COMBINE E3 AND E4. WE HAVE TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR E FOUR BEFORE WE CAN MOTION ITEM E FOUR. E4. SO COULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE YOUR MOTION? THANK YOU. MY BAD. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM E3 REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO C2. THIS DENIAL IS BASED ON THE REQUESTS IN CONSISTENCY WITH OUR COMP PLAN. IT'S INCOMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, INADEQUATE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, LONG LONG NECK ROAD AND THE OVERBOARD LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS GRANTED BY CONVENTIONAL C2 ZONING AT A DESIGNATED GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN. AND I'LL. SECOND MOTION'S BEEN SECONDED. AND LET'S OPEN UP FOR A VOTE, PLEASE. [01:50:12] CAN I SAY ONE THING BEFORE I CAST MY VOTE? YES. I REALLY DON'T. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT A HARD NOTE YET, BECAUSE I DO APPRECIATE THEM WANTING TO BRING THEIR BUSINESS TO PRINCETON IS THERE. I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO REZONE THIS PARTICULAR AREA, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN CONNECT WITH STAFF TO FIND A DIFFERENT AREA FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS? AS FAR AS CONNECTING TO HELP, WE CAN ASSIST. IF THEY HAVE FIND LOCATIONS, WE CAN HELP THEM AS FAR AS DOING ANALYSIS. BUT AS FAR AS LOOKING AND SUGGESTING SITES, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THAT OUTSIDE OF REFERRING THEM TO OUR ZONING MAP AND OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. OKAY. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WITH THIS VOTE, A VOTE FOR IS FOR THE DENIAL MOTION. A VOTE AGAINST IS VOTING AGAINST THE DENIAL. YEAH. CAN I REVERT THAT? SORRY. CAN YOU. YES, PLEASE? CAN YOU CLOSE IT? REOPEN IT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PARKER, FOR EXPLAINING THAT. SO. OKAY. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT NOW, CRYSTAL. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, DID PARKER ANSWER THAT? NOT REALLY. I MEAN, YOU DID, BUT IT'S CONFUSING. WHAT'S CONFUSING ME IS IF DEVELOPERS ARE WANTING TO COME HERE, WHO HELPS THEM FIND THE LAND, WHO HELPS THEM FIND THE AREA TO DEVELOP ON THEIR BROKERS WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. AND WE DON'T. STAFF CANNOT. STAFF CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, MA'AM, BUT WE CANNOT SUGGEST A PROPERTY FOR SOMEBODY TO OPEN THEIR BUSINESS. IT'S JUST A LIABILITY ISSUE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE TO OPEN THEIR BUSINESS. OKAY. GOT IT. AND YOU CAN GIVE THEM THE LAND USE. WE CAN TALK TO THEM. WE CAN TELL THEM WHAT THE LAND USE IS. WE CAN TELL THEM WHAT IN THE PAST HAS HAPPENED. WE CAN TELL THEM THE PROBABILITY OF THEM GETTING REZONED OR SHOW THEM WHERE, WHERE THE ZONING IS, THAT THEY CAN DO THE SAME BUSINESS BY RIGHT, BUT WE CANNOT TELL. SHOW THEM PROPERTIES, SPECIFIC PROPERTIES. THANK YOU. AND TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT THE RESIDENT SAID, WAS THIS BROUGHT TO US FOR DENIAL TODAY. I'LL LET DIRECTOR RUSS RESPOND. SO OUR POLICY IS. IT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE AND COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO MAKE A DECISION. WE GIVE YOU FACTS. SO WHAT WE TELL YOU IS DOES IT MEET THE COMP PLAN? DOES IT MEET WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR? DOES IT MEET ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? THAT'S WHAT WE GIVE YOU. AND THEN YOU GET TO MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER TO APPROVE OR DENY. WE JUST GIVE YOU IMPACTS OF EITHER DECISION. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE ISN'T THIS WHAT WE HAVE IN EDC TO HELP THEM FIND PROPERTIES FOR THEM TO GO TO? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION? YES. THE CITY AT CDC, THEY COULD GO TO THE EDC AND AS WELL. SO CRYSTAL WERE JUST. YES. SO ITEM E.3ORD-2026-11-09-03 IS DENIED AT THIS TIME. 6 TO 0. WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN UP. WE'LL GO TO ITEM E.4ORD-2026-11-09-04. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST BY MCAFEE INVESTMENTS, LLC KELLY MCAFEE FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. [01:55:09] SUP FOR AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR MAJOR ON A 1.14 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF MONTE CARLO BOULEVARD AND LONGNECK ROAD. 1523 LONGNECK ROAD, TO ALLOW FOR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AUTOMOTIVE USE. THIS REQUEST IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH A REQUEST TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON THE SAME MEETING AGENDA. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, PARKER MCDOWELL AGAIN. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LAST CASE FOR ZONING FOR C TWO ZONING. AND SO SAME INFORMATION AS LAST TIME. SO IT'S JUST UP TO YOU TO MAKE THE MOTION ON IF YOU'D LIKE TO DENY THIS OR PROCEED WITH IT. BUT SINCE THIS C TWO WAS DENIED C P IS ONLY ALLOWED IN C TWO. SO BUT WE STILL NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. AT THIS TIME, 827 I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM E.4ORD-2026-11-09-04. IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? AND WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 827 AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM E FOR SAME REASONS AS THE REASONS THAT WERE GIVEN. WHEN WE DENIED ITEM ITEM E THREE. YOU WILL NEED TO RESTATE THOSE, PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS NOT. DENIAL IS BASED ON THE REQUESTS IN CONSISTENCY WITH OUR COMP PLAN. IT'S IT'S INCOMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, INADEQUATE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG LONG NECK ROAD AND THE OVERBOARD LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS GRANTED BY CONVENTIONAL C2 ZONING AT A DESIGNATED GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. AND IF WE COULD OPEN UP THE VOTING, PLEASE. IT'S ALL. IT'S ALL. AND THE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO FOR DENIAL ON ITEM 8.4ORD-2026-11-09-04. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM [F. REGULAR AGENDA ] F.12026-018. CONSIDER A REQUEST BY CHI JIN PRINCETON HOLDINGS LLC, PRIMM CO, FOR A CONVENIENCE PLAN. CONVEYANCE PLAT FOR 8.8092 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF FOREST GROVE SOUTH AND WEST PRINCETON DRIVE. PARKER. PARKER. MCDOWELL. DEVELOPMENT. SERVICES. AS YOU STATED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CONVEYANCE PLAT. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE STAR. HERE IS THE SITE IN CONTEXT. CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS. HERE IS THE PROPOSED CONVEYANCE PLAT. IT IS THE TWO SEPARATE LOTS. I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT CONVEYANCE PLAT IS NOT A PLAT THAT'S APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT. IT IS APPROVED FOR THE SALE OF PROPERTY. SO APPROVAL OF THIS PLAT WOULD NOT CONSTITUTE THEM. TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP. THEY WILL HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND PROVIDE ALL THAT ENGINEERING. HERE ARE THE REMAINING COMMENTS. THE COMMENTS MOSTLY ARE LABELING IN NATURE WITH NOTICE AS THERE'S NO MAJOR ENGINEERING ENGINEERING COMMENTS AND PLANNING COMMENTS VERY SIMILAR OF JUST PROVIDING ADDITIONAL AND ADDITIONAL NOTICE. ADDITIONAL EXCUSE ME. [02:00:01] LABELING AND HERE IS. THAT WAS THE LETTER. HERE IS THE MARKED UP PLAN. AND WITH THIS YOU CAN RECOMMEND IT FOR APPROVAL. APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO FROM WHAT I RECALL THEY ARE VOTING ON THE VOTING MODE STILL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? AM I OUT THERE? NO. THERE. DID THAT WORK? OKAY. SO FROM WHAT I LAST READ, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT YOU WERE STILL WAITING ON TO BE RESOLVED, AND I. IS THERE AN UPDATE ON THAT? THERE ARE THE COMMENTS ARE JUST LABELING. THERE'S NO ENGINEERING COMMENTS. SO THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT BY, IF YOU DECIDE TO APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS, THEY WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS IT BY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. BUT IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, ALL WE'RE DOING IS APPROVING IT TO BE CONVEYED SO WHOEVER OWNS IT CAN SELL IT. AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND ADDRESS ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS. THAT IS CORRECT, YES. IT'S JUST FOR CONVEYANCE, FOR SALE. THIS IS NOT DEVELOPMENT PLAT. THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEVELOP OR PULL ANY BUILDING PERMITS OR PROCEED WITH ANY CIVIL PLANS. THIS IS JUST FOR THE SALE. SO AGAIN YOU COULD RECOMMEND IT FOR APPROVAL CONSIDERING THAT THEY ADDRESSED IT, OR YOU COULD DENY IT OR APPROVE IT AS IS. SO THESE MARKUPS ARE PRETTY MINOR, ALTHOUGH WE SEEM TO HAVE A TREND OF NOT HAVING THOSE RESOLVED BY THE TIME IT GETS TO OUR COMMISSION. SO THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY MINOR MARKUPS. SOME OF THE LATER ONES HAVE MORE SIGNIFICANT MARKUPS. AND I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET ALL THAT FIXED BEFORE THEY. BEFORE YOU BRING IT TO THE. MAY I MAKE A COMMENT, SIR? SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW STATE LAW, WHICH REQUIRES P AND Z TO TAKE ACTION WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THEM SUBMITTING. SO THE 30 DAYS IS BARELY ENOUGH FOR US TO IN DETAIL REVIEW A PLAT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A PRELIMINARY PLAT. IT INCLUDES A DRAINAGE STUDY, TIA AND MANY OTHER ENGINEERING STUDIES. AND SO WITHIN 30 DAYS WE CAN BARELY MANAGE TO LOOK AT IT AND GET A REPORT DONE AND GET IT TO YOU ALL. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SO MANY. YOU WILL KEEP SEEING THESE BECAUSE BY LAW, WE HAVE TO GET THEM TO YOU. AND IN THE PAST, PEOPLE USED TO GIVE US VOLUNTARY EXTENSIONS. HOWEVER, WE CANNOT AS STAFF ASK FOR IT LEGALLY. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE VOLUNTARY EXTENSIONS, WE HAVE TO BRING IT TO YOU ALL TO TAKE ACTION. OTHERWISE, IT'S CONSIDERED APPROVED BY OPERATION OF LAW, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THESE. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RESOLVE. WE KEEP WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT BEHIND THE SCENES. SO JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING ACTION, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS HAVE THEM SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION. BUT WE CAN. OUR FEE SCHEDULE ALLOWS THREE REVIEWS WITHOUT A NEW FEE. FOURTH REVIEW, OR MAYBE IT'S FIFTH. I FORGET WHICH ONE, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF REVIEWS BUILT INTO THE FIRST FEE THAT AN APPLICANT PAYS. BUT FOR LEGAL REASONS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW APPLICATION. WE HAVE TO HAVE PNC AND COUNCIL TAKE ACTION. OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. SO WHEN YOU PROVIDE THEM FEEDBACK AND MARKUPS, THAT DOESN'T RESET THE CLOCK. SO IT WILL BUT THEY CAN CONTINUE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU THE MOMENT YOU APPROVE OR DENY IT OR TAKE ANY ACTION, IT RESETS THE CLOCK. AND THAT'S THE ONLY PURPOSE OF BRINGING IT TO YOU ALL. WE'RE HOPING YOU SEE THAT THEY HAVE IT'S A MINISTERIAL PROCESS. THEY HAVE TO MEET OUR ORDINANCES FOR YOU TO APPROVE IT. IF THEY MEET EVERY COMMENT, YOU CANNOT DENY IT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE IT WHILE THEY STILL DON'T MEET OUR ORDINANCE, THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. BUT WE'RE HOPING YOU WOULDN'T BE DOING THAT. WE JUST NEED YOU TO TAKE SOME ACTION ON IT. OKAY. UNDERSTAND? THANKS. AND JUST TO CONFIRM, THIS IS ZONE C ONE FOR COMMERCIAL, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS C ONE. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. [02:05:08] I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? TO APPROVE F12026-018. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? JUST JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE ARE DOING A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. RIGHT. SO CAN WE STATE THAT THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO MEET. YOU KNOW THESE THESE COMMENTS MINOR IN NATURE BEFORE IT GOES TO, TO COUNCIL. SO I WOULD I THINK WE NEED TO RESTATE THAT THE MOTION IS BASED ON CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. YES. IF YOU COULD PLEASE RESTATE YOUR MOTION. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO RESTATE MY MOTION ON F 12026-018 TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS THAT EVERYTHING IS AS IT SHOULD BE BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. AND IF WE COULD ALL VOTE, PLEASE. AND ITEM F.12026-018 IS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS THAT. ALL ITEMS ARE COMPLETED PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL. AND WITH THAT ITEM F.22026-019. CONSIDER A REQUEST BY RETAIL PARTNERS PRINCETON LLC RUSSELL MARTIN TO REPLAT, A 1.708 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED GENERALLY AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF MONTE CARLO BOULEVARD AND U.S. HIGHWAY 380, ALSO REFERRED TO AS LOTS TWO, R ONE AND TWO R TWO, BLOCK ONE OF MONTE CARLO ADDITION PHASE ONE. IN ADDITION TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, RECORDED IN VOLUME 2024. PAGE 309 MAP RECORDS COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS AND PARKER. SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REPLAT OF TWO LOTS INTO ONE UP. HERE IS THE LOCATION SHOWN WITH THE GOLD STAR. HERE IS THE SITE IN CONTEXT. HERE'S THE THE EXISTING ZONING. IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO. HERE'S THE PROPOSED REPLAT. AND HERE ARE THE REMAINING COMMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROPOSED REPLAT. AND THE COMMENT LETTER THAT WAS THAT IS ALSO STATES THE REMAINING COMMENTS. SO THAT'S A LOT OF COMMENTS. DOES THE PLANNING STAFF RECOMMEND CONDITIONAL APPROVAL FOR THIS ONE OR THIS ONE REQUIRES MORE WORK THAN THE LAST ONE. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND SO THIS ONE WILL APPROVAL. THIS ONE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PROCEED WITH THE NEXT STEP, WHICH WOULD BE THE FINAL PLAT AND THEN SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND SO WE STILL NEED MORE TIME TO WORK THROUGH THIS ONE, NOT JUST THE PLANNING STAFF, BUT OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS, AS DIRECTOR HAS MENTIONED. WE WILL STILL WORK WITH THEM, BUT IT DOES TAKE TIME TO GET IT REVIEWED BY US AND THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS. SO PROBABLY MORE WORK THAN CAN BE DONE BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. RIGHT. ENGINEERING. SINCE ITS PRELIMINARY PLANS, DIRECTORS MENTIONED THERE IS SOME MORE ENGINEERING NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED AND THEY NEED LONGER THAN I BELIEVE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO. OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT. SO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 9TH COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE THE. THERE'S ONLY ONE COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. SO IT WILL NOT BE 30 DAYS. NEXT COUNCIL WILL BE DECEMBER 14TH. SO FROM NOW UNTIL DECEMBER 14TH, THE. IF THE PLAN WILL GET APPROVED UNLESS IT GOES TO NOVEMBER 9TH. AND THESE. JUST TO GIVE YOU FACTS. THIS CANNOT BE RESOLVED BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 9TH. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT HERE REQUESTED TO SPEAK. YES, THEY'RE HERE, SO THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY FEEDBACK. AND THAT'S TAREK SAMUELS. [02:10:03] GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF. I'M TAREK SAMUELS, REAL ESTATE PROJECT MANAGER WITH QUIKTRIP, 8700 FREEPORT PARKWAY, IRVING, TEXAS, 75063. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. WITH THAT SAID, I AM REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE FILED WITH THE REPLAT. WE HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS REGARDLESS IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE SITE. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON THOSE AND ADDRESSING THOSE COMMENTS IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS A LEGAL BUILD SITE. SO WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS REGARDLESS. AND WE ARE WORKING TO DO THAT AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THEY WILL BE ADDRESSED. AND YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BY NOVEMBER 9TH? COUNCIL MEETING. ARE YOU GOING TO ASK FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THERE TO CONDITIONAL APPROVAL AS WELL? AND OF COURSE, WITH THAT CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS BEFORE WE COULD FILE THE PLAT OR DO ANYTHING FURTHER. SO. OKAY. THANKS. CLARIFICATION THIS IS A QUICK TRIP. IT'S A CAR WASH. SO QUICK TRIP IS THE, THE CAR WASH THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADJACENT TO, BUT BUBBLE BATH CAR WASH. SO IT IS A WE'LL SAY A SUBSIDIARY OF QUIKTRIP. CORRECT. IS THIS LOCATED. I KNOW WHERE SHE IS. IS IT LOCATED RIGHT THERE. CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO BACK, BUT IT'S IT WRAPS AROUND THE PARCEL. THANK YOU. PARKER. I THINK YOU CAN SEE IT THERE. AND THAT WOULD BE THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THAT ENTIRE LOT IS THE QUIKTRIP. AND THE L-SHAPED PARCEL IS THE BUBBLE BATH CAR WASH. AND, PARKER, COULD YOU GO BACK TO ALL THE. NOT NOT THE RED, BUT THE NEXT. NO. SORRY. THE LIST. YES. SO YOU THERE ARE LET'S SEE, 33, 66. THERE ARE 88 ITEMS ON. 355. AND THERE'S ABOUT 72 ITEMS, GIVE OR TAKE MY MATH, YOU ARE 110% CONFIDENT THAT ALL 72 ITEMS WILL BE ADDRESSED BY THE NOVEMBER 9TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. NOT NECESSARILY THE NOVEMBER 9TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT THERE WOULD BE ASKING FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL AS WELL. AND WITH THAT SAID, WE'D HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS FOR THIS TO, FOR THE TO BE ABLE TO BE FILED AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ON IT. SO EITHER WAY, WE HAVE TO PLAT THE SITE. BUT WITH THAT SAID, WE'D BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING PROCESS AND WE CAN WORK ON THE ADDRESSING THE COMMENTS IN THE MEANTIME AND JUST CURIOSITY, BECAUSE WE KNOW CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT, RIGHT? BUT CURIOSITY, WAS THERE A REASON WHY THERE ARE SO MANY ITEMS OPEN? YES. SO WE LIKE I WAS REFERRING TO, THERE'S THAT 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK. SO DURING THE REVIEW TIME, THEY'RE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. AND THEN WE RECEIVE COMMENTS LAST WEEK WHEN WE FOUND OUT THE AGENDA WAS HERE. SO THERE WASN'T NECESSARILY A LOT OF TIME FOR US AFTER THEIR REVIEW TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ADDRESSING THEM. BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH TIME FOR EVERYONE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. YEAH. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M. LEANING TOWARDS DENYING VERSUS A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THE, THE LIST OF THE LIST OF ITEMS. IT'S, IT'S MAJOR, RIGHT? IT'S A LOT. AND THESE ARE NOT MINOR ITEMS. THESE ARE MAJOR ITEMS. YES. WILL YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW GIVE US ALL THE DOCUMENTATION TO STAFF FOR THEM TO REVIEW? YES. BUT WHEN YOU SUBMIT THAT THEY NEED TIME TO REVIEW. RIGHT. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE BACK AND FORTH AS WELL. RIGHT. SO SO WHICH IS WHY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU KNOW, TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE, GIVEN, GIVEN THE LIST OF ISSUES THAT ARE STILL THAT ARE STILL PENDING. WITH THAT SAID, SHOULD I CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG? WITH US WORKING THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS. THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS ARE SEPARATE, CORRECT, AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH CONDITIONAL APPROVAL ON THE PLAT AND STILL WORK THROUGH. NO ENGINEERING COMMENTS ARE A PART OF THE PLAT. OKAY. WELL, IF WE. IF AS A BOARD WE WERE TO DENY THIS. I MEAN, HOW WOULD THIS A WORD WITH THE CAR [02:15:08] WASH PROCESS AND JUST IT'S NOT GOING TO IT'S JUST GOING TO DELAY YOUR PROCESS. EXACTLY. SO INSTEAD OF JUST GOING TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE'D BE COMING BACK TO PNC. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH US TONIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY DENY ITEM F2 FOR THE PROPOSED REPLAT OF MONTE CARLO ADDITION PHASE ONE BLOCK ONE, LOT R2R3. BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF PRINCETON CODE OF ORDINANCES AND APPLICABLE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF COMMENT LETTER DATED OCTOBER 22ND, 2026, EXHIBITS B1, B2, AND B3, SPECIFICALLY CITING THE FOLLOWING UNRESOLVED DEFICIENCIES ONE FAILURE TO SUBMIT THE REQUIRED TRIP GENERATION MEMORANDUM TO DETERMINE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS UNCLARIFIED INTERNAL TRAFFIC CIRCULATION, AND ACCESS ARRANGEMENTS. TWO FAILURE TO PROVIDE AN APPROVED DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT. EVALUATING POTENTIAL DRAINAGE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THREE. LACK OF REQUIRED CLARIFICATION AND DOCUMENTATION FOR PROPOSED REMAINING AND ABANDONED ABANDONED EASEMENTS. FOUR. UNRESOLVED DISCREPANCIES REGARDING PROPERTY DIMENSIONS. SURVEY INFORMATION REQUIRED PLAT NOTES. CERTIFICATIONS AND PLAT CHECKLIST REQUIREMENTS. FIVE. UNRESOLVED DISCREPANCIES IN THE PROPER PROPERTY OWNER AUTHORIZATION DOCUMENTATION. I FURTHER MOVE THAT STAFF MEMO AND ATTACHED EXHIBITS B1, B2, AND B3 BE INCORPORATED INTO THE OFFICIAL RECORD AS THE COMMISSION'S REASONS FOR DISAPPROVAL. CHRIS, DID YOU. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WE CAN JUST. THE MOTION CAN JUST BE MOVED TO DENY THE PLAT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE SPECIFIC REASONS OR READ ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE 88 DIFFERENT REASONS. IT CAN JUST BE MOVED TO DENY THE PLOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND DO WE NEED TO RESTATE IT? YEAH. I WOULD SAY TO JUST RESTATE IT AGAIN. THANK YOU. WE CAN JUST RESTATE IT FOR SAYING IT DOESN'T MEET THE CITY'S CODES BASED ON THE COMMENTS. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM F TWO BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO, TO MEET STAFF'S COMMENTS AND CITY ORDINANCES. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. AND IF WE COULD OPEN THE VOTING PLEASE. IT SHOULD BE OPEN. YES. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT MOTION FOR ITEM ROAD 26-019. THE ITEM HAS BEEN DENIED. AND JUST A NOTE. PARKER SHY ALSO ON THE APPLICATION. THE SIGNATURE DOES NOT MATCH THE OWNER'S NAME. I THINK THE COMMENT HAS BEEN MADE ON THE APPLICATION. IF YOU SEE B THREE SHOWS THAT COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM F DOT THREE, ITEM 2026-020. CONSIDER A REQUEST BY COPE RETAIL LLC. MARK COPE TO FINAL PLAT APPROXIMATELY 0.099 ACRES. LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF FM 75, SOUTH OF MONTICELLO DRIVE AND NORTH OF EAST MONTE CARLO BOULEVARD AND PARKER. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS OUR REQUEST FOR FINAL PLAT. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION IS INDICATED BY THE STAR ON THE LOCATION OVERVIEW. THIS IS THE SITE IN CONTEXT INDICATED BY THE YELLOW BORDERED YELLOW PARCEL. HERE'S THE CURRENT ZONING WHICH IS THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THE ONE THAT'S ON LONG NECK AND MONTE CARLO. [02:20:08] DRAWING A BLANK ON THE NUMBER SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF THAT PD. MICROPHONE CHECK. I WANT TO SAY PD 18, BUT GIVE ME A SECOND. OKAY. WELL, SHE LOOKS THAT UP. HERE IS THE PROPOSED FINAL PLAT. IT IS TWO LOTS IN THE REMAINING COMMENTS. AS WELL AS THE COMMENT LETTER. AS YOU CAN SEE, PLANNING COMMENTS ARE FAIRLY MINOR FOR THIS ONE, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ENGINEERING COMMENTS THAT STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. WHILE SHE'S LOOKING THAT UP. YES, IT'S PD 18, PD 18. THANK YOU. IS THE DEVELOPER OR ANYONE HERE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? DOES NOT APPEAR SO. THANK YOU. SO HAVE THEY RESOLVED THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE WAITING ON. NO. THESE WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A REVISED PLAT YET. AND THIS IS FINAL PLAY. CORRECT. THIS IS FINAL PLAT. WHERE'S THE SHOT CLOCK? ARE WE THE SHOT CLOCK OF THIS ONE? I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED IT ON. OCTOBER 5TH. AND SO THE SHOT CLOCK WOULD BE THE NOVEMBER 5TH. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE TAKE ACTION AT THIS MEETING. AND THIS IS ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA, CORRECT? YEAH. ALL THESE PLOTS ON HERE ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA FOR FURTHER ACTION. SO THEY CAN GET THE INFORMATION TO YOU BECAUSE THAT'S NEXT MONDAY. THEY WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO REVIEW IT. EVEN IF THEY GOT US TO US TODAY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO REVIEW IT BY THE NINTH. OKAY. THAT IS WHAT DIRECTOR BRUCE HAS MENTIONED BECAUSE OF JUST STAFF. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN AROUND THESE REVIEWS THAT QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY USING OUR THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING CONSULTANT AS WELL. AND, AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE REASON WE'RE TAKING THE TIME AND BRINGING IT TO AN ACTION INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RE REVIEW IT WITHIN 30 DAYS IS THAT'S HOW MISTAKES HAPPEN. THE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS ATTENTION TO BE PAID ATTENTION TO BE LOOKED AT PROPERLY, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO STAY WITH THE LAND ONCE APPROVED, THIS IS IT. WE CAN'T GO BACK AND MAKE THEM FIX ANYTHING AT THAT POINT. AND AND THAT'S WHY WE WOULD LIKE GOING FORWARD TO JUST GET AN ACTION TAKEN ON THESE THINGS AND GIVE US ENOUGH TIME INSTEAD OF RUSHING. THE REVIEWS AND RUSHING THE CHANGES BECAUSE IT COSTS THEM TO MAKE EDITS. ALSO. SO IF THEY'RE RUSHING. THEIR ENGINEERS ARE RUSHING TO MAKE IT. THE CHANCES OF MISTAKES ARE TOO HIGH. SO IT'S JUST BETTER FOR EVERYBODY TO NOT RUSH THROUGH. BUT ALSO, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, THIS IS A FINAL PLAT. SO IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT, THEN CORRECT ME IF I UNDERSTOOD THIS CORRECTLY. THESE ITEMS OUTSTANDING, THEY IN THEORY WOULDN'T NEED TO COMPLETE THEM. THAT'S CORRECT. IF IT'S APPROVED, THEN THAT'S IT. THAT'S JUST THE FINAL PLAT. THEY CAN RECORD IT WITH THE COUNTY AND WE DON'T GET ANOTHER BITE OF THE APPLE. THANK YOU. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. HOW MAYBE I GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION SOMEWHERE, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME. HOW DOES THESE THINGS GET PUT ON OUR AGENDA IF THEY HAVE NOT BEEN AND FINALIZED. IT'S BECAUSE OF TEXAS STATE LAW THAT ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN WITHIN PLATS OF 30 DAYS. FINAL PLAT STAPH DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DENY IT. AND SO IF THEY'RE STILL OUTSTANDING COMMENTS, IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT TO YOU FOR DENIAL. APPROVAL. APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. SO ACTION MUST BE TAKEN WITHIN 30 DAYS. SO IF WE GAVE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THEN COUNCIL WOULD ALSO HAVE TO GIVE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE THEM GO CLOSE OUT THOSE ITEMS. IT WOULD JUST DEPEND. WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH LEGAL TO SEE HOW TO WORD IT. BUT I'LL LET DIRECTOR ROUS OR THE CITY ATTORNEY ADDRESS THAT. [02:25:01] SO I'M NOT BASICALLY THEY, WE WOULD SAY SUBJECT TO LIKE THAT THEY CANNOT RECORD IT. HOWEVER, IF SOMEBODY JUST TRIES TO RECORD IT AND STAFF MISSES THE FACT THAT THEY WERE OUTSTANDING COMMENTS. THE CHAIN. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. CHANCES OF MAKING A MISTAKE WHEN IT'S THIS MANY COMMENTS. STAFF WOULD REALLY PREFER THAT THE COMMENTS WERE REALLY LABELING KIND OF COMMENTS WHICH ARE FULFILLED BY THE TIME IT GOES TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE TAKING CONDITIONAL APPROVAL TO COUNCIL REALLY LEAVES A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS FOR THINGS TO FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS, AND WE'D REALLY RATHER NOT. SO CAN I. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM ITEM F THREE DUE TO NONCOMPLIANCE WITH OUR CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES. AND WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. AND THE ITEM F.32026-020 HAS BEEN SECONDED. AND IF WE COULD OPEN IT UP FOR VOTING, PLEASE. AND ITEM F.32026-020 HAS BEEN DENIED. WE'LL CONTINUE ON TO ITEM F.42026-021. CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A FINAL PLAT BY KB HOME LONE STAR INCORPORATED FOR PRINCETON ESTATES. PHASE TWO, A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION OF APPROXIMATELY 29.760 ACRES AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 456 AND SOUTH BAUGHMAN LANE AND PARKER. AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS INDICATED BY THE YELLOW STAR ON WHERE ITS LOCATION IS AND LOCATE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY. HERE IS THE SITE. HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING WHICH IS THAT SF TWO. AND THEN HERE'S THE PROPOSED FINAL PLAT. THIS IS THE COVER SHEET. SHEET ONE. SHEET TWO. SHEET THREE. AND HERE ARE THE REMAINING COMMENTS FROM THE COVER SHEET. SHEET ONE. SHEET TWO. AND THEN NO COMMENTS ON SHEET THREE. HERE IS THE COMMENT LETTER. AND I WILL STATE THAT THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY HAD RESUBMITTED THIS ONE AFTER THE AGENDA WAS POSTED. BUT PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, OF COURSE. AND SO THEY HAVE MADE ALL OF THOSE CORRECTIONS WHICH I HAVE SHOWN ON SCREEN. LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THEY ADDED THE FINAL PLOT LABEL, ADDED THE CITY OF PRINCETON COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS ADDED THE COUNTY LINE. THEY HAVE THE THE KEY SHEET THAT SHOWS WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE. IF. SHEET ONE, SHEET TWO, AND I'VE ADDED THE LINE BLOCK TABLES. SO THIS ONE YOU CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL, CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OR DENIAL. AND IF YOU DO CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THEY HAVE ALREADY MET THOSE COMMENTS. AND WE JUST NEED TO UPDATE THE COUNCIL AGENDA. AND WITH THAT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO JUST TO CONFIRM THEY'VE MET EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE MET. IT'LL BE UPDATED AND CAN GO TO CITY COUNCIL. CORRECT. OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM F.42026-021. I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F FOUR. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. AND IF WE COULD VOTE PLEASE. CRYSTAL. THANK YOU. AND MOTION PASSES. ITEM F.42026-021. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. [02:30:07] AND ITEM F.52026-022. CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY PLAT BY PROPERTY OWNER D L CALDWELL FOR APPROXIMATELY 1.370 ACRES. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 107 WEST PRINCETON DRIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST PRINCETON DRIVE, U.S. HIGHWAY 380, APPROXIMATELY 65FT EAST OF TOWN PARK AVENUE FOR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A RESTAURANT AND PARKER. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT INDICATED BY THE LOCATION BY THE STAR. HERE IS THE SITE IN CONTEXT. HERE'S THE CURRENT ZONING WHICH IS THAT C TWO. HERE'S THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT. HERE ARE THE REMAINING COMMENTS. AND WHILE IT LOOKS MINOR, I DO WANT TO STATE THAT ONLY TWO COMMENTS ARE ADDED BECAUSE THEY ARE MISSING SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ITEMS, AND SO ENGINEERING WAS NOT ABLE TO REVIEW IT DUE TO MISSING BUT MOST ALL THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ITEMS. AND SO INSTEAD OF WASTING THEIR TIME, WE ADDED THE COMMENT THAT PLEASE PROVIDE THAT AND THEN ADD AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT THAT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WILL BE GENERATED ONCE ENGINEERING IS ABLE TO REVIEW THE MISSING ITEMS. SO FOR THIS ONE THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK LEFT TO DO. CAN YOU GO BACK A MOMENT, PLEASE I THINK. NOPE. BACK A LITTLE MORE TO WHERE YOU HAD THE. NOPE. ONE MORE. YEP. RIGHT THERE. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I'M SEEING THIS IS POTENTIALLY A MCDONALD'S OR THERE IS A MCDONALD'S. THAT'S THE LABELING OF THE MCDONALD'S. THAT'S THE MCDONALD'S THERE. IT'S ON 380. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. THEY'RE PROPOSING A RESTAURANT, I THINK. MICROPHONE, PLEASE. I THINK IT'S A KOREAN FUSION RESTAURANT. FUSION. SO FUSION. KOREAN FUSION. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU TELL US? THIS THIS WAS REALLY WASN'T READY FOR REVIEW YET. THAT IS CORRECT. IT WAS THEY PROVIDED ALL THE ITEMS TO ACCEPT. BUT AGAIN, NOT ENOUGH TO DO AN ENGINEERING REVIEW. JUST A QUESTION IRRELEVANT TO THIS. BUT WHEN THEY COME TO THE CITY OF PRINCETON, THEY'RE PROVIDED WITH WHAT WE NEED. CORRECT? YEAH. PART OF THESE COMMENTS WILL BE SENDING OUT THAT THEY SENT THE CHECKLIST OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT WILL NEED IT, INCLUDING THE ENGINEERING. THEY ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, WHICH OUTLINES IN THE SUBDIVISION WHAT ALL ENGINEERING ITEMS ARE NEEDED. AND WE DID HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING AS WELL TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED. OKAY. I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH WHY COME BACK TO US IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED? BUT THAT'S IRRELEVANT. SO WITH THAT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PARKER, WOULD YOU WANT TO JUST POINT OUT JUST FOR EVERYONE WATCHING, AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION THAT STAFF HAS PUT ON THESE NEW CHECKLISTS THAT TELL EVERY DETAIL THAT STAFF WILL BE REVIEWING ON THESE PLANTS? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. SO ON OUR WEBSITE, WE DO HAVE CHECKLISTS DIVIDED BY THE PLANTS PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT THAT STATE ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE NEEDED EXPLICITLY FROM UTILITY CAPACITY ENGINEERING. SUMMARY LETTER. HOW TO PREPARE THE PLOT SCALE THAT THE PLOT NEEDS TO BE PREPARED AT. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO IT'S FAIRLY EXTENSIVE. AND IF THEY FOLLOW THAT, THEY SHOULD BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, LIKE SOME OF THEM LIKE THAT PRINCETON ESTATES THAT WE SHOWED EARLIER, THEY FOLLOW THE CHECKLIST AND IT ENDED UP BEING, I THINK, TWO REVIEWS. AND THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AND WITH THAT, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. WITH THAT I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THESE THINGS ARE PUT ON OUR WEBSITE. DO THEY HAVE A DEADLINE? AND THEN DO WE HAVE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HELP WALK THEM THROUGH? WE DON'T HAVE THE MOST USER FRIENDLY WEBSITE OUT THERE. I KNOW BECAUSE I NAVIGATE IT SOMETIMES. SO DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON STAFF WHO'S HELPING THEM TO NAVIGATE AND TO MEET THOSE DEADLINES? AND ARE THERE ANY DEADLINES AS FAR AS SUBMITTAL? IT'S JUST WHEN THEY CAN GET THERE, IF THEY CAN MEET OUR SUBMITTAL DEADLINE. AND YES, PART OF THIS PROCESS IS THAT WE DO OFFER THE PRE-APPLICATION WHERE WE WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS, [02:35:02] WHAT IS REQUIRED, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO SUBMIT. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH QUESTIONS. AND WE TRY OUR BEST TO GET BACK TO THOSE QUESTIONS IN A TIMELY MANNER. I JUST THINK NOT JUST THEM, BUT THERE BEEN OTHERS TONIGHT THAT JUST TRULY, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU SUBMIT THIS WITHOUT EVEN ENGINEERING? I'M JUST STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT JUST ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO IN THIS CASE, INSTEAD OF APPROVAL AND DENYING IT. CAN WE SEND IT BACK FOR COMPLETION AND THEN HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK TO US BECAUSE THEY SUBMITTED THAT WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. IF THEY MEET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS, SUCH AS LIKE THEY SUBMITTED A PLAT, THEY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, THEY DID SUBMIT A CHECKLIST, BUT THEY STILL WERE MISSING ITEMS FROM THAT CHECKLIST. WHEN WE TAKE IN THE APPLICATION, WE CAN'T DO AN EXTENSIVE REVIEW RIGHT THERE. WE JUST DO THE REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE MOST OF THE ITEMS. AND THEN ONCE WE START THE REVIEW PROCESS, WE START GOING THROUGH THAT CHECKLIST AND WE NOTICE THAT THEY'RE MISSING ALL THE ENGINEERING AS WELL AS WE'RE NOT ENGINEERS. SO WE HAVE TO RELY ON OUR THIRD PARTY ENGINEERS TO DETERMINE IF THEY'VE SUBMITTED EVERYTHING. AND SO IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THEY DID SUBMIT AND WE DID ACCEPT, IT DID TRIGGER THE SHOT CLOCK. SO ACTION DOES HAVE TO BE TAKEN. SO WE CAN'T JUST SEND THEM BACK. WE HAVE TO EITHER DENY OR APPROVE. AND WITH THAT DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. NO. THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM FIVE. BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, SPECIFICALLY MISSING TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS AND ENGINEERING DEFICIENCIES. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. AND IF WE COULD VOTE, PLEASE. AND ITEM F.52026-022 HAS BEEN DENIED SIX ZERO. WITH THAT ITEM F.62026-023, CONSIDER A REQUEST BY JB PRINCETON I'VE LP TO REPLAT OF APPROXIMATELY 0.406 ACRES. 9.396 ACRES AFTER PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MYRICK LANE AND SOUTH BEACHUM BOULEVARD TO CREATE FOUR COMMERCIAL LOTS WITHIN PRINCETON BUSINESS PARK. AND WITH THAT, PARKER. AGAIN, THIS ONE IS SHOWN BY THE YELLOW STAR ON THE MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION. THIS IS THE SITE IN CONTACT. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S OFF OF BOOTCAMP AND MYRICK LANE. THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING. IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED EM ONE. HERE IS THE PROPOSED REPLAT. THIS IS THE SIGNATURE PAGE. AND HERE'S THE REMAINING COMMENTS WHICH I WILL STATE THAT THIS ONE IT WAS KIND OF IT'S A LEGACY PROJECT IN THE SENSE THAT THE ORIGINAL PLANNING WAS DONE BEFORE WE UPDATED OUR ORDINANCE OR ACQUIRED PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING. SO THIS IS A REPLAT, BUT THEY HAVE PROVIDED PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING THAT NEEDS TO GET APPROVED BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE THIS. AND THAT'S WHAT THE SHEET IS FROM. AND THE COMMENTS THAT ARE LEFT DO HAVE TO DO WITH THE TIA THAT RECENTLY WAS SIGNED OFF ON BY ENGINEERING WITH THE ADDITION THAT THEY NEED TO CONSTRUCT A RIGHT TURN LANE. AND SO WHILE THERE'S NO COMMENTS ON THE ACTUAL PLAT ITSELF, THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS DO HAVE COMMENTS AND WE NEED TO SEE THAT NEW RIGHT TURN LANE BEFORE WE CAN FOR ENGINEERING WILL RECOMMEND THIS ONE FOR APPROVAL. AND SO AS YOU SEE, IT'S JUST THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS THAT ARE LEFT. AND I WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO POINT FOUR PROVIDE RIGHT TURN LANE DECEL LANE AS REQUIRED BY THE TIA. AND THEN THEY ALSO WILL NEED A VARIANCE. ONCE THEY DO HAVE THAT FINAL DESIGN. AND WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS. WE WILL TAKE THIS WITH A VARIANCE FOR THIS DRIVEWAY SPACING THAT ENGINEERING HAS IDENTIFIED. SO IT SAYS REPLAT. BUT IS IT PRELIMINARY PLAT OR AGAIN THIS IS WHAT IT IS A REPLAT. SO THIS ONCE THIS IS APPROVED THE REPLAT APPROVED. BUT BECAUSE OF WHEN THIS WAS SUBMITTED, WHEN WE ADDED NEW ORDINANCES AND KIND OF GOT CAUGHT BETWEEN THE NEW PROCESS AND THE OLD PROCESS. [02:40:09] AND SO IT'S A REPLAT. BUT THEY HAD TO PROVIDE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WITH IT. BUT WHICH WILL RESULT IN A FINAL PLAT. YES. THIS WILL BE A FINAL PLAT. AND THEY STILL HAVE MORE ENGINEERING TO WORK TO DO AFTER THIS. AFTER THIS, THEY STILL NEED TO DO THE CIVIL SETS AND THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLANS. BUT THIS IS JUST THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED AT AN EARLIER STEP, BUT IT WASN'T CODIFIED YET. DIRECTOR RICE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IF YOU ALL WILL RECALL, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND GET IT MORE ORGANIZED. AND SO IN THE PAST PEOPLE USED TO PRELIMINARY PLAT PROPERTIES AND SOMETIMES EVEN FINAL PLAT WITHOUT GETTING ALL THE DETAILED ENGINEERING. SO THIS WAS PLATTED THE WAY IT WAS. JUST TO CONVEY THE PROPERTY, I BELIEVE IN THE PAST. AND SO INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM COME BACK TO DO FIRST PRELIMINARY PLAT, THEN A FINAL PLAT WE JUST ARE DOING A REPLAT OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WAS A RECORDED PLAT, WE'RE DOING A REPLAT SUBJECT TO THEM GIVING US ALL THE INFORMATION THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN IF WE'D DONE A PRELIMINARY PLAT. SO THIS WAS BASICALLY US WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR TIMELINE. IT'S A 711 AND A MCDONALD'S THAT'S COMING IN THE BUSINESS PARK AREA, WHICH THAT AREA DOES NEED SOME NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO HELP THEM OUT IN TIME, WHICH HASN'T REALLY WORKED, BUT WE DID OUR BEST. HOPE ANYTHING BUT A MCDONALD'S. WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM F FIVE. SORRY. ITEM F SIX. BASED ON THE GROUNDS THAT THE TECHNICAL REVIEW OF OCTOBER 19TH, 2026, THE RESUBMITTAL REMAINS INCOMPLETE. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. AND IF WE COULD VOTE, PLEASE. AND WITH THAT MOTION PASSES. ITEM F.62026-0236-0 HAS BEEN DENIED. EXCUSE ME. I APPRECIATE ALL THIS WORK AND EVERYTHING, BUT HOPEFULLY THE CONTRACTORS AND THE DEVELOPERS AND EVERYONE ELSE COMING TO OUR CITY AND COMING FORWARD TO US, UNDERSTAND THEY'VE GOT TO FOLLOW, BASICALLY FOLLOW A CHECKLIST. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE CHECKLIST COMPLETED, YOU SHOULDN'T SUBMIT YET. BUT THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT ITEM 4.72026-024, CONSIDER A REQUEST BY CHRISTIAN HEIGHTS HOLDING, LLC FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR APPROXIMATELY 4.76 ACRES. LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF U.S. HIGHWAY 380 AND PRINCETON MEADOWS BOULEVARD. BECAUSE. AND I JUST WANT TO GO BACK A MOMENT BEFORE YOU START. WE WANT THE COMMERCIAL. WE NEED THE COMMERCIAL. WE JUST NEED IT DONE PROPERLY. AND THANK YOU. AND PARKER. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE PROPERTY IS INDICATED BY THE YELLOW STAR ON THE LOCATION OVERVIEW. THIS IS THE SITE IN CONTEXT. THE YELLOW BOX IS THE SITE IN QUESTION. THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING. AND BELIEVE IT IS ZONED C ONE. HERE IS THE PLAT. THE FIRST SHEET. HERE'S THE SECOND SHEET. AND AGAIN JUST MENTION THAT THE WAY WE DO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PACKAGES THE PLAT IS ONLY TWO SHEETS. BUT THERE IS PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THAT'S WHY IT IS SHOWN AS SHEET THREE OF 13. WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE ACTUAL PLAT? [02:45:09] OKAY. IS THIS NEAR THE PRINCETON TOWN CENTER? YES. YEAH. IT'S IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT, THERE'S THAT RED SQUARE, I BELIEVE IS IT'S TO THE RIGHT OF THE RED SQUARE. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S THE TRIANGLE TO THE RIGHT. OKAY. YES. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT, IT'S THE TRIANGLE TO THE RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND AS FAR AS COMMENT REVIEWS. I WILL NOTE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT DID MENTION THAT DUE TO OUR WORKLOAD AND OUR THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT, BY THE TIME THIS AGENDA WAS POSTED, IT WAS STILL UNDER REVIEW. THEY COMPLETED THE REVIEW ON THE 30TH. AND WITH THAT THE ALL THE PLANNING COMMENTS WERE ADDRESSED, BUT THEY STILL HAVE THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS, WHICH IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT, YOU SEE THAT THEY HAVE THE ENGINEERING SUMMARY SUMMARY LETTER, WHICH NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON IT. BUT THE BIG ONE IS THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS WHOLLY ON ENGINEERING TO PROVE AND GET THAT RECOMMENDATION. SO WE RELY ON THEM TO GET THAT REVIEW DONE AND GET THAT RECOMMENDATION. SO THE REST ARE FAIRLY MINOR, BUT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SAY FOR SURE HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN ADDRESS IT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR ENGINEERS HANDS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THAT. THE DOWNSTREAM ASSESSMENT THAT IS. AND THE APPLICANT HAS NOT RECEIVED THESE COMMENTS YET. AS I MENTIONED, IT JUST WAS DONE ON THE 30TH. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE THIS MORNING. AND WHAT IS WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING TO PUT ON THIS PROPERTY? IT IS A STANDALONE EMERGENCY SERVICES BUILDING. I BELIEVE LIKE A. APPLICANT IS HERE TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS LIKE A. YES. AND THAT'S DREW DONNELLY AND I APOLOGIZE IF I PRONOUNCED THAT INCORRECTLY. YEAH. THANKS, PARKER. DREW DANOWSKI, 32, 31 HARWOOD ROAD, BEDFORD, TEXAS 76021. SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION'S TIME TONIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. IT'S BEEN A LATE ONE. SO WE'RE ALL HANGING IN THERE. AS PARKER MENTIONED, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THOSE THOSE COMMENTS. SO YOU HAVE MY WORD. WILL WILL BE RESUBMITTING THAT TOMORROW. WE SUBMITTED IN AUGUST. THIS IS OUR THIRD REVIEW. THE LAST REVIEW COMMENTS WE RECEIVED OCTOBER 5TH AND I RESUBMITTED THE SAME DAY. SO YOU HAVE MY WORD. THESE WILL BE CLEARED BEFORE THE NINTH. WHETHER STAFF HAS TIME TO LOOK AT IT OR NOT, I, I DON'T KNOW. BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE ALL BUSY. THE LAST ROUND OF COMMENTS WAS FAIRLY MINOR. QUICKLY LOOKING AT THAT, IT LOOKED LIKE AN ENGINEERING SUMMARY LETTER, WHICH IS CLERICAL. IT'S JUST A NARRATIVE OF THE PROJECT. WHAT IS HAPPENING, THE DRAINAGE STUDY IN THIS CASE. YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE COMMENTS AND SEE WHAT ENGINEERING HAS POINTED OUT. IT'S NOT SO MUCH AS A DRAINAGE STUDY AS, AS AS IT IS A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AROUND US. WE'VE GOT TRACTOR SUPPLY TO THE WEST. I DID THOSE PLANS. WE'VE GOT PRINCETON MEADOWS SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH OF US. THEY BUILT PRINCETON MEADOWS BOULEVARD. WHEN THEY BUILT THAT ROAD, THEY PUT A CULVERT UNDER PRINCETON MEADOWS THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR FULLY DEVELOPED CONDITION CONDITIONS FROM OUR PARCEL, MEANING NO DETENTIONS REQUIRED. OBVIOUSLY, THE DRAINAGE STUDY, THOUGH, IS TO CHASE THAT FURTHER DOWNSTREAM. SO YOU'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS PUT THERE ON THE NORTH EAST CORNER. YOU'VE GOT A STORAGE FACILITY PRINCETON MEADOWS STORAGE. I DID THAT, YOU'VE GOT GODDARD DAYCARE. DIDN'T DO THAT, BUT I REVIEWED IT. YOU'VE GOT SCOOTER'S COFFEE AND YOU'VE GOT A MULTI-TENANT RETAIL BUILDING. WE DID EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE SCOOTERS GOING THAT DIRECTION. I DESIGNED THE DETENTION POND FOR PRINCETON MEADOWS STORAGE AND STORAGE, PHASE TWO. SO I CAN TELL YOU WHEN WE DESIGNED THAT, WE DESIGNED IT FOR EVERY SINGLE RAINFALL EVENT THAT WOULD PASS THROUGH THAT. WE DESIGNED IT FROM EVERYTHING COMING FROM TRACTOR SUPPLY, FROM PRINCETON MEADOWS BOULEVARD, FROM THIS PARCEL THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING. AND IT IS IT'S FULLY DETAINED. AND THEN IF YOU GO EVEN FURTHER TO THE PROPERTY DOWNSTREAM FROM THAT, THAT'S A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S A PHASE TWO THAT THEY ALSO HAVE A POND AND FLOOD, AND IT'S ALL FULLY DEVELOPED THROUGH THERE. SO WE'RE VERY, VERY CONFIDENT IN OUR ABILITY TO MAKE THE ENGINEERING WORK. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING OUR I'S DOTTED AND OUR T'S CROSSED. BUT YOU HAVE OUR COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL WE WILL HAVE THAT ADDRESSED AND BACK IN THE CITY'S HANDS. IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME DAY THAT WE GET THE COMMENTS EMAILED TO US. [02:50:05] AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE BUILDING, WE'RE PROPOSING A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY ROOM. SO WE'LL BE OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY. WE'RE A MICRO HOSPITAL. ANYTHING THAT A HOSPITAL CAN DO, WE CAN DO. SO IT'S A NEED THAT THE CITY NEEDS. WHEN WE FIRST MET WITH DIRECTOR ROOS IT SOUNDED LIKE STAFF WAS EXCITED TO HAVE US, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO JOIN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF OF PRINCETON. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN INTERESTING SEEING THE DIFFERENT PLATS KIND OF COME AND GO AND SOME GET CONDITIONALLY APPROVED, SOME DON'T. I AM HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REAL ESTATE DEALS. THESE ARE THESE ARE THESE ARE TRANSACTIONS, RIGHT. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE UNDER CONTRACT, YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR DUE DILIGENCE DONE, GET A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMFORT. OTHERWISE YOU GO HARD ON YOUR MONEY AND YOU KNOW, NO, NO BUSINESS OWNER OR DEVELOPER WITHOUT AT LEAST HAVING A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVED, WHICH IS, IS NOT A PLAT THAT GETS FILED WITH THE COUNTY. THIS IS A ROAD MAP. THIS IS A RUBRIC FOR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR OUR LATER PLANS, OUR OUR FUTURE ENGINEERING, OUR FINAL PLAT. ALL THAT COMES LATER AND IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU GUYS TO TO TO TAKE A VOTE. SO YOU KNOW, SUBMITTING IN AUGUST AND NOW WE'RE NOVEMBER 2ND. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE AT BASICALLY 120 DAYS FROM WHEN WE TRIED TO START. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S BUSY. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE ADVERSARIAL AT ALL. WE'RE JUST HERE HAT IN HAND TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO YOU GUYS THAT WE ARE HERE TO ADDRESS EVERY CONCERN TO DOT EVERY T DOT EVERY I. WE WILL SUBMIT EXPEDITIOUSLY. WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF EXPEDITIOUSLY TO ENSURE ALL OF THEIR COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED. AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING THIS APPROVED REALLY HELPS US PROCEED WITHOUT THE CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE PUTTING FINANCIAL MEANS AT STAKE. YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE NEED MORE TIME, WE'VE GOT TO BUY MORE TIME FROM A SELLER, RIGHT? THIS IS IT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU KIND OF HAVE TO, TO WEIGH YOURSELF AND, YOU KNOW, HOW LIKELY IS THIS TO GET APPROVED? HOW, HOW HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE? AND I CAN TELL YOU, WE ARE ANXIOUS TO JOIN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE ANXIOUS TO START CONSTRUCTION. IN FACT, WE SUBMITTED TOO MUCH ENGINEERING. THE FIRST SUBMITTAL WE WERE WORKING WITH WITH DIRECTOR SHY ON, WE WERE THE FIRST SUBMITTAL THAT HAD THOSE NEW CHECKLISTS. SO THEY WEREN'T EVEN ONLINE YET. WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THOSE BY REQUEST, BUT THE FIRST MIDDLE PACKAGE WE SUBMITTED FULL ENGINEERING, WE SUBMITTED FINAL PLAT, WE SUBMITTED PRELIMINARY PLAT, WE SUBMITTED EVERYTHING AND THEY HAD TO TELL US, OH WELL. WHOA, WHOA WHOA, PULL IT BACK A LITTLE BIT. STEP ONE. SO THAT'S JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT, THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND AS THOROUGHLY AS WE CAN THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, ASKING FOR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL TO HELP US GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WON'T SEE US AGAIN LIKE SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES ARE FINAL PLOTS AND THEY DON'T COME BACK. WE'RE A PRELIMINARY PLAT, SO WE'LL BE BACK WITH A FINAL PLAT THAT ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS WILL BE MET. SO IF WE PROVIDE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE ASSESSMENT AND WHAT ELSE. WELL SO THE FINAL PLAT THERE'S SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING THAT SUPPORTS IT. PART OF THAT'S A DRAINAGE STUDY. TRAFFIC STUDY. TRAFFIC STUDY HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THE ENGINEERING SUMMARY LETTER WHICH IS KIND OF A NARRATIVE OF WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTS TO THE PLAT ITSELF. THE PLAT ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE ANY PLANNING COMMENTS LEFT. IT'S JUST WE'RE DOWN TO THESE ENGINEERING COMMENTS THAT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY RECEIVED YET. THOSE THAT WAS JUST A MOMENT AGO WAS THE FIRST TIME I'D SEEN THOSE. SO YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE OUR COMMITMENT THAT WE'LL WORK THROUGH THOSE. IF WE GET THEM TOMORROW, WE'LL PROBABLY BE RESUBMITTING TOMORROW. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE LIST, PLEASE? THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, YOU TALKED THAT IT WAS LIKE A MICROHOSPITAL. IT'S AN E.R.. SO WHEN YOU SAY E.R. STANDALONE, I'M THINKING LIKE A CARE. NOW, WHEN YOU SAY MICROHOSPITAL, IT'S LIKE 18 BEDS OR SOMETHING. WE ARE NOT A CARE NOW. WE ARE AN EMERGENCY ROOM. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING AN E.R. DEPARTMENT IN A LARGE HOSPITAL, WE ARE JUST THAT EMERGENCY ROOM. YES, MA'AM. SO WE TAKE AMBULATORY SERVICES. WE'LL HAVE AN AMBULANCE BAY WITH A DROP WHERE THEY CAN COME STRAIGHT IN AND DELIVER PATIENTS ON A STRETCHER STRAIGHT INTO THE [02:55:01] ER. WE HAVE A DRIVEWAY ON 380. YES, MA'AM. AND I HAVE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL FROM TXDOT FOR THAT DRIVEWAY ALREADY. PARKER OR SHY. IT LOOKS LIKE ITEM SIX AND ITEM EIGHT ARE THE SAME. ARE THEY? ARE THEY OR ARE THEY? YES, THEY READ THE SAME. ARE THEY TWO DIFFERENT AREAS? THEY. THEY PROBABLY ARE. WE COPIED IT FROM THE. SOMETIMES THE APPLICANTS OR. ARE DIFFERENT SHEETS, DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS MADE IN BLUEBEAM. IT KIND OF DOUBLED IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL LABEL IT TWICE IF WE HAVE TO. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US TONIGHT AND COMING UP AND SPEAKING. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE F SEVEN. CONDITIONALLY APPROVE F72026-0224. PENDING THE THE OPEN ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. AND WITH THAT PLEASE VOTE. AND ITEM F.72026-024 IS APPROVED FOR A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. AND AGAIN WE DO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE LOOK YOU KNOW WE WE HOPE TO SEE THESE ACTIONS COMPLETED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT. PARKER, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? AS FAR AS THE REPORT AGENDA GOES? JUST THAT THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT WITH SOME OF THESE ITEMS WILL BE ON NOVEMBER 9TH, WHICH IS NEXT MONDAY AT 6:30 P.M. IS WHEN THE REGULAR MEETING STARTS. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON DECEMBER 7TH AT 6:30 P.M.. AS FAR AS DEPARTMENT UPDATES GO. WE'RE JUST WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THE DIRECTIONS WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, SUCH AS THE 380 OVERLAY AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT. WE'LL BRING THAT UP TO YOU FOR FURTHER INPUT. BUT WE'RE REALLY. I'M SORRY. THE THREE A OVERLAY. WE HAD A DIRECTION TO PROCEED WITH WORKING ON THAT. AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT CODE. AND ONCE THAT IS FINALIZED, WE WILL BRING IT FORWARD. I THINK IT'S STILL IN THE WORK. SORRY. I DID WANT TO MENTION WHERE US THREE OVERLAY ORDINANCE IS CONCERNED AT OUR HALLOWEEN EVENT CITY HALLOWEEN EVENT. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAD A BOOTH WHERE WE ALSO COLLECTED INPUT FROM OUR RESIDENTS. AND WE GOT 137 COMMENTS. WHAT THEY SAY WE, WE, WE'RE PULLING THEM TOGETHER. AND WE WILL PUT IT AS A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WHEN WE'RE BRINGING THE ORDINANCE TO YOU. BUT GENERALLY, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, PEOPLE WROTE THEY WANTED DIFFERENT BUSINESSES. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE AUTO SHOPS. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE TIRE SHOPS AND TRAFFIC WAS ALSO A BIG ONE. SO WITH THAT, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO [G.REPORT AGENDA] REQUEST FOR THE NEXT MEETING? I WOULD I WAS WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR THE PNC COMMITTEE TO MEET WITH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE OR TO, TO HAVE. IS THAT SOMETHING? CHRISTINA. CHRISTINA IS CAN YOU WOULD YOU HAVE MORE DETAIL? SORRY, I COULDN'T THINK OF IT. I'M NOT GOOD WITH NAMES. I I'M HOPING BECAUSE, LIKE, HOW TONIGHT WENT. IT'S. I DON'T WANT INVESTORS TO FEEL LIKE WE DON'T WANT THEM THERE. [03:00:05] AND THEN WE HAD THE COMMENTS FROM OUR RESIDENT, WHO I REALLY RESPECT AND I APPRECIATE IT. BUT WITH INVESTORS BEING HERE AND LISTENING TO, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS SPEAK AND ALMOST IN A WAY OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A COHESIVENESS WITHIN OUR CITY. IT CAN PUSH INVESTORS AWAY. AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. NOT ONLY THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON ONE ACCORD WITH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE WITH KNOWING THAT WE ALL HAVE THE SAME VISION, BECAUSE HAVING SEVEN AGENDAS IN EVERY AGENDA IS INCOMPLETE IS OR EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA IS INCOMPLETE. LIKE AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME TYPE OF COHESIVENESS. AND I THINK IT'S ONLY GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN WE ALL MEET AS A COLLECTIVE. IS THAT POSSIBLE? OR AM I ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. IS THAT ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HAPPEN BETWEEN COUNCIL AND PNC. I THINK IT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TWO BODIES TO DISCUSS THE VISION FOR THE CITY. WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY, AT LEAST WHILE I'VE BEEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. SO AT NEXT WEEK'S MEETING DURING THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, I WILL PROPOSE IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA. THANK YOU. YES. MAYBE WE CAN SET UP A WORK SESSION. MAYBE I CAN BRING IT UP. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. MY FIVE MINUTES SPEAKING. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN TO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. AND WITH THAT. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 932. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.